Business Insider: US uses 80's spy data on Russian aviation

The publication Business Insider has published material that the US military is still using spy data from Adolf Tolkachev, who headed the research laboratory in the USSR in the 1980-s and worked in the field of radar.


Business Insider: US uses 80's spy data on Russian aviation


“Most of what Tolkachev conveyed is still in use, and so far it is legally classified. Although this is a matter of thirty years ago, it is likely that some of these things are still considered to be quite valuable information, ”quotes David Hoffman, the author of a book about the Billion-Dollar Spy, RIA "News".

The results of Tolkachev's espionage activities concern all Russian fighters created in the 1980-s and the beginning of the 1990-s. The publication notes that it was during this period that the development of the most modern aircraft began.

According to Business Insider, this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria.
Photos used:
tiras.ru
Ctrl Enter

Noticed a mistake Highlight text and press. Ctrl + Enter

72 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Temples 19 October 2015 11: 11 New
    • 58
    • 0
    +58
    And what a last name! - Tolkachev. You can’t even talk about the name.
    Pushed with the decree information.
    I sold everything and everyone.
    1. bulvas 19 October 2015 11: 13 New
      • 19
      • 0
      +19

      That's right, where does Russia get a new gas station in 30 years?

      Keep listening to adolf


    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Penetrator 19 October 2015 11: 13 New
      • 19
      • 0
      +19
      Quote: Temples
      And what a last name! - Tolkachev.

      And what a name - Adolf! Undoubtedly, the parents were hitlerophiles. fellow But seriously, how can you trust any Business Insider, the name of which kakbe alludes to remoteness from military topics. Let yourself spread insider information from currency exchanges. Until the early 2000s, there were no special secrets in our Russian military-industrial complex for our "Western partners."
      1. veksha50 19 October 2015 11: 22 New
        • 14
        • 0
        +14
        Quote: Penetrator
        how can you trust any Business Insider, one name of which kakbe hints at the remoteness from the military theme.



        Hmm ... There is one strange publication and it seems that it isn’t a military one, but often quite good and topical materials on military topics are written and on VO constantly present ... "Mordovian Bulletin" if I’m not mistaken ???

        PS Well, for sure that it’s not the "Messenger of the Mordovian camps" ...
        1. demo 19 October 2015 11: 25 New
          • 3
          • 0
          +3
          Well, you have jokes!
        2. hydrox 19 October 2015 11: 39 New
          • 4
          • 0
          +4
          Quote: veksha50
          "Mordovian messenger" if I am not mistaken


          You also need to understand that they write only what is permitted, but already such information that Adik did not even think of in those years when he made the decision on betrayal ...
          1. veksha50 19 October 2015 15: 24 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            Quote: hydrox
            We must also understand that they write only what is permitted, but already such information that Adik did not even think of in those years when he made the decision on betrayal.



            Exactly ... So - the flag of thirty years ago in the hands of Amers ... let them rejoice ...
    4. vladnn2015 19 October 2015 11: 13 New
      • 5
      • 0
      +5
      and haven’t been "liquidated" yet?
      1. BilliBoms09 19 October 2015 11: 23 New
        • 53
        • 0
        +53
        They shot the reptile.
        Employees of the KGB of the USSR managed to get on the trail of Tolkachev absolutely by accident. In 1985, his curator, Edward Lee Howard, was fired from the CIA for property theft and drug addiction. An embittered Howard ran over to the side of the USSR and gave the KGB a lot of top secret information, including the name of Adolf Tolkachev. On June 9, 1985, the latter was arrested, and on June 13 his liaison officer Paul Stroumbach was arrested. During the investigation, Tolkachev confessed everything and begged the Soviet leadership not to impose a death sentence on him. The Supreme Court of the USSR examined the Tolkachev case in 1986 and found him guilty of an offense under article 64, part “a” of the RSFSR Criminal Code, and sentenced him to capital punishment - the death penalty by shooting. On September 24, 1986, the sentence was carried out.
        1. demo 19 October 2015 11: 26 New
          • 17
          • 0
          +17
          Thank God! Lightly.
        2. Mikhail Krapivin 19 October 2015 11: 29 New
          • 13
          • 0
          +13
          Quote: BilliBoms09
          They shot the reptile.
          On September 24, 1986, the sentence was carried out.


          This is the only way things are done. I took the risk - sold out - got caught - shot. This message will reach every doubter. And here is the current form of the message: I took a chance –sold –– –– –– –– –– ––––––––––––––––––––––––) changed the agent on the other side a year later, is vicious and teaches impunity and permissiveness.
        3. hydrox 19 October 2015 11: 44 New
          • 5
          • 0
          +5
          Quote: BilliBoms09
          On September 24, 1986, the sentence was carried out.


          Forty years have passed: during this time, progress in radar has run so far that discussing such issues now is the same as blaming I. Sikorsky or Zvorykin for treason in Russia ...
        4. reklats34 19 October 2015 12: 30 New
          • 6
          • 0
          +6
          each adolf has a pool
          1. 2s1122 19 October 2015 12: 43 New
            • 3
            • 0
            +3
            not all Adolfs are such nits.
            1. Aljavad 20 October 2015 00: 38 New
              • 0
              • 0
              0
              each adolf has a pool
              not all Adolfs are such nits.


              Do not confuse these nasty adolfs with these cute Adiki! lol
        5. 2s1122 19 October 2015 12: 39 New
          • 1
          • 0
          +1
          Good afternoon Vladislav, I think you have pleased us with this information. Thank you hi
      2. evge-malyshev 19 October 2015 11: 39 New
        • 2
        • 0
        +2
        Quote: vladnn2015
        and haven’t been "liquidated" yet?


        Eliminated. Soviet style. Bullet in the back of the head.
      3. evge-malyshev 19 October 2015 11: 39 New
        • 0
        • 0
        0
        Quote: vladnn2015
        and haven’t been "liquidated" yet?


        Eliminated. Soviet style. Bullet in the back of the head.
      4. The comment was deleted.
    5. hydrox 19 October 2015 11: 34 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Quote: Temples
      Pushed with the decree information.

      This is no longer scary: since then, our aviation radars have already begun to see farther than Amer’s, and air-to-air missiles have become more accurate and long-range.
      Ground-based early warning radar systems work in a network with VKS no worse than Amer, and they have more opportunities in the number of targets followed. In addition, centimeter radars of the battlefield like Farah and Sobolyatnik have become lighter and more mobile than Amer.
      And this is only for open sources and for products accepted for service.
      1. Maksus 19 October 2015 13: 10 New
        • -9
        • 0
        -9
        Where did the information come from? That our radars (we don’t really have AFAR), that long-range explosive missiles — here we lose to the Americans. Plus they have more AWACS than ours, and their use makes their own aircraft radar not so important. Our hobby is over-maneuverability and close combat.
        1. Tusv 19 October 2015 13: 30 New
          • 2
          • 0
          +2
          Quote: Maksus
          AFAR really we do not have

          I wonder why Americans need Afar, if you can’t turn it on? My friend says about such moments "Pure neighing"
          And about the arms bent not sickly. The Americans themselves cry why the Russians have, but we don’t. And the truth is why the Americans who "defeated us" are in no hurry to meet with our planes and are in no hurry to go to our skies when they were bossing us in the 60s, as at home
          1. Maksus 19 October 2015 14: 04 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            They compared a bolt with an injury handle - in the 60x there were battles of Phantoms with MIGs, since then many years have passed, no?
          2. Scraptor 19 October 2015 14: 44 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            One F-22 launches a missile, the radar turns on another F-22 ...
        2. Tusv 19 October 2015 13: 47 New
          • 2
          • 0
          +2
          Quote: Maksus
          Plus they have more AWACS than ours, and their use makes their own aircraft radar not so important.

          What is the use of AWACS if it is kept at a useless distance. Our pilots immediately begin to fly unprofessionally a few feet from the democratic pepelats and irradiate with thousands of radars, taking them for escort. Here is the answer why in Soviet times the Americans didn’t fly on Mondays - this is really scary.
          1. Maksus 19 October 2015 14: 05 New
            • 0
            • 0
            0
            Who holds it and at what distance? AWACS are not driven in vain - this is a control plane, though.
      2. Scraptor 19 October 2015 14: 42 New
        • 0
        • 0
        0
        Since then, the American ones have somehow pulled themselves up to the Soviet level! Through the efforts of Adik ...
    6. kodxnumx 19 October 2015 12: 12 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      It’s for us that even if they use the second world data, if only we had no moles of ty according to Tolkachevo.
  2. Vladimyrych 19 October 2015 11: 12 New
    • 13
    • 0
    +13
    It’s right that such “Adolf Tolkachevs” rolled olive into the skull in those right times.
  3. Decathlon 19 October 2015 11: 13 New
    • 8
    • 0
    +8
    I never understood the parents giving such names to children: Adolf ... Some kind of meanness blows recourse
    1. A-Sim 19 October 2015 11: 15 New
      • 2
      • 0
      +2
      In the mid 30s it was fashionable. All the same, the socialists, even though the Nazis (in the media, followed the line of the international) ...
    2. BilliBoms09 19 October 2015 11: 28 New
      • 6
      • 0
      +6
      I never understood the parents giving such names to children: Adolf ... Some kind of meanness blows
      He was born in 1929, then this name was not so tarnished by a possessed aloizovich.
    3. demo 19 October 2015 11: 28 New
      • 6
      • 0
      +6
      That's interesting.
      And what name does Dazdraperm cause?

      For information - Long live the First of May.
      1. Kos_kalinki9 19 October 2015 11: 50 New
        • 4
        • 0
        +4
        Quote: demo
        That's interesting.
        And what name does Dazdraperm cause?

        For information - Long live the First of May.

        And my father had childhood friends:
        Guy - Reva
        And the girl is Lucia.
      2. alvog 19 October 2015 12: 19 New
        • 3
        • 0
        +3
        I had a neighbor Traktor Ivanovich, already an old man, and he was proud of his name ...
  4. The comment was deleted.
  5. roskot 19 October 2015 11: 13 New
    • 4
    • 0
    +4
    For a long time, he is seeking the reward of his hero. An ice ax in his ear and an aspen stake as a keepsake.
  6. Sasha75 19 October 2015 11: 13 New
    • 13
    • 0
    +13
    I didn’t understand something, but they know that the USSR no longer has the impression that it doesn’t.
    1. bvi1965 19 October 2015 11: 23 New
      • 8
      • 0
      +8
      Surely guess, but the "stars" on the wings are embarrassing ... laughing
  7. Same lech 19 October 2015 11: 14 New
    • 12
    • 0
    +12
    Business Insider: US uses 80s spy data on Russian aviation


    Tolkachev did us tremendous damage with his betrayal.
    Unfortunately, such moles are the most dangerous people in RUSSIA .... for the scale of the damage to our country from their activities is often beyond description.
    A typical example of Gorbachev ... is now alive and healthy and celebrates his anniversaries in Europe ... and millions of our citizens who have not survived his perestroika are now lying in their graves.
    1. hydrox 19 October 2015 11: 47 New
      • 6
      • 0
      +6
      Here you are right!
      This villain must be branded day and night :: they say that hatred materializes, you look - and dies!
  8. DMB3000 19 October 2015 11: 14 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    first and last name suitable
  9. eXelenSe 19 October 2015 11: 15 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Adolf Tolkachev say ...
    [media = http: //coub.com/view/4t1fx]
    am
    1. Good me 19 October 2015 11: 58 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      Quote: eXelenSe
      Adolf Tolkachev say ...
      [media = http: //coub.com/view/4t1fx]


      Failed to install the video? It's a pity.

      Here it is, Stalin style:

      and in addition:

      Although the form of Stalin’s image in the videos is controversial, one thing pleases: REMEMBER!
      1. kodxnumx 19 October 2015 13: 53 New
        • 0
        • 0
        0
        Cool clips! wink
  10. Alcoholic 19 October 2015 11: 15 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Well, maybe they will help :)
    But the human factor is far from 30 years ago.
    And there is every reason to believe that it is this human factor that mattresses are so afraid of wassat
  11. GSH-18 19 October 2015 11: 15 New
    • 4
    • 0
    +4
    According to Business Insider, this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria.

    Does it lie?
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov 19 October 2015 11: 41 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Well, why? Somewhere at a resort in Miami, our guys will stuff their faces with these "McCain"!
  12. noWAR 19 October 2015 11: 19 New
    • 4
    • 0
    +4
    It would be naive to somehow rely on data from 30 years ago. All these years after the betrayal did not sit idly by, I hope.
  13. kondor-espada 19 October 2015 11: 21 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    "this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria" - What kind of conflict, well, well, funny - the Americans are shaking too much for their asses.
  14. KazaK Bo 19 October 2015 11: 23 New
    • 12
    • 0
    +12
    The era of r / l aviation sights of the Oryol, SAPPHIRE and the like series, to the development of which the "mole" Tolkachev was involved, is a thing of the past. Then the radio hardware base in aviation did not allow to go beyond the limits of detection ... tracking only one target and launching a missile on it. At the border of the 90s, only concepts were developed ... and from them to the actual implementation of the finished product --- very, very far! Now radar-air ... these are sights with headlights ... Similarly, in electronic warfare systems! The current developments are much different ... about which in the 80s. could only dream ... and not develop ...
    Now other moles are rustling ... them by the mid-90s. ... come on ... recruited ...
    1. Altona 19 October 2015 11: 34 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Quote: KazaK Bo
      The era of r / l aviation sights of the Oryol, SAPPHIRE and the like series, to the development of which the "mole" Tolkachev was involved, is a thing of the past. Then the radio hardware base in aviation did not allow to go beyond detection limits ..

      ------------------
      Also thought that such "valuable" infe remained in the 80s of the last century? Avionics, the engine and even partially the glider have been updated or at least improved, the capabilities of the planes have grown significantly, the GLONASS navigation satellite system is participating in the guidance of missiles and bombs ... But they are still looking at the old tube and transistor circuits ...
      1. Rader 19 October 2015 11: 55 New
        • 2
        • 0
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        The era of r / l aviation sights of the Oryol, SAPPHIRE and the like series, to the development of which the "mole" Tolkachev was involved, is a thing of the past. Then the radio hardware base in aviation did not allow to go beyond detection limits ..

        ------------------
        Also thought that such "valuable" infe remained in the 80s of the last century? Avionics, the engine and even partially the glider have been updated or at least improved, the capabilities of the planes have grown significantly, the GLONASS navigation satellite system is participating in the guidance of missiles and bombs ... But they are still looking at the old tube and transistor circuits ...

        Of course, this is all true, but we must not forget about the period of the 90s. Then the Americans (and not only them) could almost legally buy ready-made samples of advanced technology and documentation. And all this lasted until the beginning of the zero (this is at best). So the Americans, in truth, can have quite relevant information. We hope for the best, but prepare for trouble smile
    2. Mikhail Krapivin 19 October 2015 11: 37 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      That's why moles, so that the FSB does not doze off :)
  15. Corsair 19 October 2015 11: 24 New
    • 6
    • 0
    +6
    laughing you might think after submitting the information - Soviet and Russian designers had to abandon everything and start making flying saucers. I understand that in their paradise they think that our pilots fly on the development of the 70-80s without any changes, and our developers and minds were dragged / killed / destroyed in the 90s?
    Let them continue to think so, in which case, then, in the course of action, they will “Calibrate” in the right direction.
    1. Sura 19 October 2015 11: 39 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Judging by how amers were struck by air strikes and missiles, it really is, the body has grown, and thinking, like stuck at the level of a teenager, is neither here nor there.
  16. veksha50 19 October 2015 11: 26 New
    • 4
    • 0
    +4
    "this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria" ...

    It is unlikely ... Even taking into account the fact that we still use the achievements of the Soviet era, even for the last 10-15 years that this “pusher” “sold” should have been modernized at least ... And another modernization can change the possibilities so much that mom do not cry ...
  17. VNP1958PVN 19 October 2015 11: 31 New
    • 8
    • 0
    +8
    And what a last name! - Tolkachev.
    Tolkachev, Gorbachev! It’s not a matter of a surname, but a rotten soul! But the damage of course from such villains is immeasurable!
  18. kizhe 19 October 2015 11: 34 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    in addition to this information, there is something new, as well as normal, not washed brains of our pilots.
    1. 2s1122 19 October 2015 12: 59 New
      • 0
      • 0
      0
      Well, he also surpassed the SU 24 to Japan (I was unsuccessful with the model), so that ears should always be kept at the top of the head.
  19. Redman 19 October 2015 11: 34 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    We have such Adolfs ... But after all, many liberalists consider themselves patriots. How about this?
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov 19 October 2015 11: 47 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      To organize from them regular replenishment of the labor market for camp rations in the Far North!
  20. tomket 19 October 2015 11: 45 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    it’s not clear why the Americans need some kind of pusher and his information of the 80s, if only the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the USA are near the squadron. In addition, the Indians began to regularly conduct exercises with the Americans, so to speak, to test our equipment live.
    1. Tusv 19 October 2015 12: 44 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Quote: tomket
      if only MiG-29 and Su-27 in the USA near the squadron.

      They have full documentation for all Soviet equipment. Now the balls are rolling out. How so? Why is the manual not true?
    2. Scraptor 19 October 2015 22: 17 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      Nitsche-nitsche ... here they will be trained on them and then they will get from them, any meanness is punishable.

      Such renovations are contrary to the contract, although the most recently salted Ukrainians
  21. wild 19 October 2015 12: 11 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    On foreign media, the article is just about him, read such a garbage dump ..
  22. Zumich 19 October 2015 12: 12 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    In the 80s and 90s, everything in the country was staggering and popping, there were traitors, but it seems to me that now there are many more of them (traitors of the homeland, country), in education, medecine, in the economy, in the media, in other spheres of life, I think corruption and bribery, these are deliberately cultivated (embedded) dividers.
    For me, like this: KAZNIT 'CANNOT BE FORGIVENESS.
  23. Mercenary 19 October 2015 12: 22 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Previously, the KGB didn’t forgive such tricks. Anyone and a traitor knew that he would be knocked down wherever he was !! If Tokachev on time (got into a car crash), he would rot somewhere and did not bark.
  24. Россия 24 19 October 2015 12: 32 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    They would still have taken the data of 1945, then there was the most modern aviation, but Germany was defeated.
  25. viktor561 19 October 2015 12: 35 New
    • 2
    • 0
    +2
    Well, the story of another betrayal - in 1976 Belenko hijacked the MIG-25 to Japan - there the electronics on the MIG were antediluvian - but the friend-or-foe recognition system that got to the Americans left our airspace defenseless for a year and led to huge losses
    1. Tusv 19 October 2015 13: 00 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Quote: viktor561
      The "friend or foe" that came to the Americans left our airspace defenseless for a year and led to huge losses

      There are interesting points. Dismantled the twenty-fifth and wrapped the flight program Drozd. At least they saved our country about a dozen billion dollars to counter the Sr-71. In addition, air defense received a significant leap in development. In the same recognition "friend or foe." Change of codes takes a couple of seconds
    2. Scraptor 19 October 2015 22: 13 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      Where does the information about "antediluvian" come from? Their American news? Nothing antediluvian - on the contrary, the Americans didn’t have that and there was a lot of panic (for those who are smarter and do not go to the VO for defecation) because they realized that the USSR was seriously preparing for a nuclear war.
  26. Swed 19 October 2015 12: 58 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    The article was trimmed, so I found the following lines in it:

    “The statistics are very revealing,” says Hoffman. - In Korea, for every six enemy aircraft shot down, the United States lost one aircraft. In Vietnam, we lost a plane for every two shot down. ”

    Such dreamers laughing As always, everything was done upside down, in the expectation that, after a couple of centuries, others would believe it.
    1. Tusv 19 October 2015 13: 17 New
      • 2
      • 0
      +2
      Quote: Swed
      As always, everything was done upside down, in the expectation that, after a couple of centuries, others would believe it.

      Hoffman hardly lies. Americans destroyed piston aircraft in Korea in such proportion, but fifteen appeared and spoiled all statistics. About Vietnam, too, does not lie 2 spots on one phantom. But the twenty first appeared and o5 statistics ruined
      1. Scraptor 19 October 2015 21: 53 New
        • 0
        • 0
        0
        he lies and you repeat after him ... for example, there were several F-105s per phantom.
  27. rotmistr60 19 October 2015 13: 00 New
    • 2
    • 0
    +2
    this information can help American pilots in case of conflict with Russian pilots in Syria

    Well, if Americans still use the information 30 years ago, then it is not surprising that every day they have more and more eyes on their foreheads.
    1. Aljavad 20 October 2015 01: 03 New
      • 0
      • 0
      0
      Well, if Americans still use the information 30 years ago, then it is not surprising that every day they have more and more eyes on their foreheads.


      And no one was surprised that the Obama had ideas about Russia, as if he had been sleeping lethargically since the 90s?

      After the collapse of the USSR, these cool peppers cut spending on intelligence so much that they slept not only in Caliber, Crimea and Syria, but also in Putin.

      (not for nothing after a speech at the UN “their” mother-in-house announcer made a reservation and called him Yeltsin)
  28. YaMZ-238 19 October 2015 13: 13 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Amerikosy would still use information on "Ilya Muromets" .....
  29. Radikal 19 October 2015 13: 46 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Quote: bulvas
    That's right, where does Russia get a new gas station in 30 years?

    Keep listening to adolf

    Listen does not work, he was exposed and shot. But he managed to inflict considerable damage!
  30. Belousov 19 October 2015 14: 07 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Everyone should know that there is an ice ax of the right size. And now - they live quietly in London and in the face, and even have not lost touch with the highest officials.
  31. NordUral 19 October 2015 15: 44 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Another selling highlighted.
  32. Cartman 19 October 2015 21: 44 New
    • -1
    • 0
    -1
    50 years have passed, hardly something very serious remains
  33. Briz 21 October 2015 18: 53 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Quote: Scraptor
    he lies and you repeat after him ... for example, there were several F-105s per phantom.

    ;) I understood what I said ???
    1. Scraptor 22 October 2015 02: 40 New
      • 0
      • 0
      0
      You do not understand what you read.
  34. Old26 22 October 2015 20: 13 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Quote: Penetrator
    Undoubtedly, the parents were Hitlerophiles

    And most importantly, they were seers. Dali having 6 years before the name of Hitler became widely known laughing Or maybe he was named after Wagner ???

    Quote: BilliBoms09
    He was born in 1929

    in 1927