Business Insider: US uses 80's spy data on Russian aviation

The publication Business Insider has published material that the US military is still using spy data from Adolf Tolkachev, who headed the research laboratory in the USSR in the 1980-s and worked in the field of radar.

“Most of what Tolkachev conveyed is still in use, and so far it is legally classified. Although this is a matter of thirty years ago, it is likely that some of these things are still considered to be quite valuable information, ”quotes David Hoffman, the author of a book about the Billion-Dollar Spy, RIA "News".

The results of Tolkachev's espionage activities concern all Russian fighters created in the 1980-s and the beginning of the 1990-s. The publication notes that it was during this period that the development of the most modern aircraft began.

According to Business Insider, this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria.

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[Temples]

And what a last name! - Tolkachev. You can’t even talk about the name.
Pushed with the decree information.
I sold everything and everyone.

[bulvas]

That's right, where does Russia get a new gas station in 30 years?

Keep listening to adolf

[Penetrator]

Quote: Temples

And what a last name! - Tolkachev.

And what a name - Adolf! Undoubtedly, the parents were hitlerophiles. But seriously, how can you trust some Business Insider, the very name of which kakbe hints at the remoteness from the military theme. Let the insider information from currency exchanges spread. Until the early 2000s, there were no special secrets for our "Western partners" in the Russian military-industrial complex.

[veksha50]

Quote: Penetrator

how can you trust any Business Insider, one name of which kakbe hints at the remoteness from the military theme.

Hmm ... There is one strange publication and we have, it seems, not a military one, but quite often good and topical materials on military topics are written, and on VO constantly present ... "Mordovian Bulletin", if I'm not mistaken ???

PS Well, for sure, that not the "Bulletin of Mordovian camps" ...

[demo]

Well, you have jokes!

[hydrox]

Quote: veksha50

"Mordovian Bulletin", if I'm not mistaken

You also need to understand that they write only what is permitted, but already such information that Adik did not even think of in those years when he made the decision on betrayal ...

[veksha50]

Quote: hydrox

We must also understand that they write only what is permitted, but already such information that Adik did not even think of in those years when he made the decision on betrayal.

Exactly ... So - the flag of thirty years ago in the hands of Amers ... let them rejoice ...

[vladnn2015]

and it hasn't been "liquidated" yet?

[BilliBoms09]

They shot the reptile.

Employees of the KGB of the USSR managed to get on the trail of Tolkachev absolutely by accident. In 1985, his curator, Edward Lee Howard, was fired from the CIA for property theft and drug addiction. An embittered Howard ran over to the side of the USSR and gave the KGB a lot of top secret information, including the name of Adolf Tolkachev. On June 9, 1985, the latter was arrested, and on June 13 his liaison officer Paul Stroumbach was arrested. During the investigation, Tolkachev confessed everything and begged the Soviet leadership not to impose a death sentence on him. The Supreme Court of the USSR examined the Tolkachev case in 1986 and found him guilty of an offense under article 64, part “a” of the RSFSR Criminal Code, and sentenced him to capital punishment - the death penalty by shooting. On September 24, 1986, the sentence was carried out.

[demo]

Thank God! Lightly.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Quote: BilliBoms09

They shot the reptile.

On September 24, 1986, the sentence was carried out.

This is the only way things are done. I took the risk - sold out - got caught - shot. This message will reach every doubter. And here is the current form of the message: I took a chance –sold –– –– –– –– –– ––––––––––––––––––––––––) changed the agent on the other side a year later, is vicious and teaches impunity and permissiveness.

[hydrox]

Quote: BilliBoms09

On September 24, 1986, the sentence was carried out.

Forty years have passed: during this time, progress in radar has run so far that discussing such issues now is the same as blaming I. Sikorsky or Zvorykin for treason in Russia ...

[reklats34]

each adolf has a pool

[2s1122]

not all Adolfs are such nits.

[Aljavad]

each adolf has a pool
not all Adolfs are such nits.

Do not confuse these nasty adolfs with these cute Adiki!

[2s1122]

Good afternoon Vladislav, I think you have pleased us with this information. Thank you

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: vladnn2015

and it hasn't been "liquidated" yet?

Eliminated. Soviet style. Bullet in the back of the head.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: vladnn2015

and it hasn't been "liquidated" yet?

Eliminated. Soviet style. Bullet in the back of the head.

[hydrox]

Quote: Temples

Pushed with the decree information.

This is no longer scary: since then, our aviation radars have already begun to see farther than the American ones, and air-to-air missiles have become more accurate and longer-range.
Ground-based early warning radar systems work in a network with VKS no worse than Amer, and they have more opportunities in the number of targets followed. In addition, centimeter radars of the battlefield like Farah and Sobolyatnik have become lighter and more mobile than Amer.
And this is only for open sources and for products accepted for service.

[Maksus]

Where did the information come from? That our radars (we don’t really have AFAR), that long-range explosive missiles — here we lose to the Americans. Plus they have more AWACS than ours, and their use makes their own aircraft radar not so important. Our hobby is over-maneuverability and close combat.

[Tusv]

Quote: Maksus

AFAR really we do not have

I wonder why the Americans need afar if they can't turn it on? My friend says about such moments "Clean neighing"
And about the weapons bent not sickly. The Americans themselves are crying why the Russians have, but we don't. And the truth is why the Americans, who "defeated" us, are in no hurry to meet with our planes and in our skies are in no hurry, when in the 60s they hosted like at home

[Maksus]

They compared a bolt with an injury handle - in the 60x there were battles of Phantoms with MIGs, since then many years have passed, no?

[Scraptor]

One F-22 launches a missile, the radar turns on another F-22 ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Maksus

Plus they have more AWACS than ours, and their use makes their own aircraft radar not so important.

What is the use of AWACS if it is kept at a useless distance. Our pilots immediately begin to fly unprofessionally a few feet from the democratic pepelats and irradiate with thousands of radars, taking them for escort. Here is the answer why in Soviet times the Americans didn’t fly on Mondays - this is really scary.

[Maksus]

Who holds it and at what distance? AWACS are not driven in vain - this is a control plane, though.

[Scraptor]

Since then, the American ones have somehow pulled themselves up to the Soviet level! Through the efforts of Adik ...

[kodxnumx]

It’s for us that even if they use the second world data, if only we had no moles of ty according to Tolkachevo.

[Vladimyrych]

It is correct that such "Adolf Tolkachevs" had an olive tree rolled into their skulls in those correct times.

[Decathlon]

I never understood the parents giving such names to children: Adolf ... Some kind of meanness blows

[A-Sim]

In the mid 30s it was fashionable. All the same, the socialists, even though the Nazis (in the media, followed the line of the international) ...

[BilliBoms09]

I never understood the parents giving such names to children: Adolf ... Some kind of meanness blows

He was born in 1929, then this name was not so tarnished by a possessed aloizovich.

[demo]

That's interesting.
And what name does Dazdraperm cause?

For information - Long live the First of May.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: demo

That's interesting.
And what name does Dazdraperm cause?

For information - Long live the First of May.

And my father had childhood friends:
Guy - Reva
And the girl is Lucia.

[alvog]

I had a neighbor Traktor Ivanovich, already an old man, and he was proud of his name ...

[roskot]

For a long time, he is seeking the reward of his hero. An ice ax in his ear and an aspen stake as a keepsake.

[Sasha75]

I didn’t understand something, but they know that the USSR no longer has the impression that it doesn’t.

[bvi1965]

They probably guess, but the "stars" on the wings confuse ...

[Same lech]

Business Insider: US uses 80s spy data on Russian aviation

Tolkachev did us tremendous damage with his betrayal.
Unfortunately, such moles are the most dangerous people in RUSSIA .... for the scale of the damage to our country from their activities is often beyond description.
A typical example of Gorbachev ... is now alive and healthy and celebrates his anniversaries in Europe ... and millions of our citizens who have not survived his perestroika are now lying in their graves.

[hydrox]

Here you are right!
This villain must be branded day and night :: they say that hatred materializes, you look - and dies!

[DMB3000]

first and last name suitable

[eXelenSe]

Adolf Tolkachev say ...
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[Good me]

Quote: eXelenSe

Adolf Tolkachev say ...
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Failed to install the video? It's a pity.

Here it is, Stalin style:

and in addition:

Although the form of Stalin’s image in the videos is controversial, one thing pleases: REMEMBER!

[kodxnumx]

Cool clips!

[Alcoholic]

Well, maybe they will help :)
But the human factor is far from 30 years ago.
And there is every reason to believe that it is this human factor that mattresses are so afraid of

[GSH-18]

According to Business Insider, this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria.

Does it lie?

[Vladimir Pozlnyakov]

Why not? Somewhere in a resort in Miami, our guys will stuff these "McCains" in the face!

[noWAR]

It would be naive to somehow rely on data from 30 years ago. All these years after the betrayal did not sit idly by, I hope.

[kondor-espada]

"This information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria" - What such a conflict, well, well, it's funny - the Americans are shaking too much behind their backs.

[KazaK Bo]

The era of r \ l aviation sights of the OREL, SAPPHIR series and the like, in the development of which the "mole" Tolkachev was involved, is a thing of the past. Then the element base of radio engineering in aviation did not allow to go beyond detection ... tracking only one target and launching a rocket at it. At the border of the 90s, only concepts were developed ... and from them to the real implementation of the finished product is very, very far! Now the radar-air ... these are sights with phased array ... The same is in electronic warfare systems! The current developments are an order of magnitude different ... about which in the 80s. could only dream ... not develop ...
Now other "moles" are rustling ... by the mid-90s. ... go ... recruited ...

[Altona]

Quote: KazaK Bo

The era of r \ l aviation sights of the OREL, SAPPHIR series and the like, in the development of which the "mole" Tolkachev was involved, is a thing of the past. At that time, the element base of radio engineering in aviation did not allow going beyond the detection limits.

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I also thought that the infe of the 80s of the last century remained so "valuable"? The avionics, the engine and even partly the airframe have been updated or at least improved, the capabilities of the aircraft have grown noticeably, the GLONASS navigation satellite system takes part in the guidance of missiles and bombs ... And they still look at the old tube and transistor circuits ...

[Rader]

Quote: Altona

Quote: KazaK Bo

The era of r \ l aviation sights of the OREL, SAPPHIR series and the like, in the development of which the "mole" Tolkachev was involved, is a thing of the past. At that time, the element base of radio engineering in aviation did not allow going beyond the detection limits.

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I also thought that the infe of the 80s of the last century remained so "valuable"? The avionics, the engine and even partly the airframe have been updated or at least improved, the capabilities of the aircraft have grown noticeably, the GLONASS navigation satellite system takes part in the guidance of missiles and bombs ... And they still look at the old tube and transistor circuits ...

Of course, this is all true, but we must not forget about the period of the 90s. Then the Americans (and not only them) could almost legally buy ready-made samples of advanced technology and documentation. And all this lasted until the beginning of the zero (this is at best). So the Americans, in truth, can have quite relevant information. We hope for the best, but prepare for trouble

[Mikhail Krapivin]

That's why moles, so that the FSB does not doze off :)

[Corsair]

you might think after submitting the information - Soviet and Russian designers had to abandon everything and start making flying saucers. I understand that in their paradise they think that our pilots fly on the development of the 70-80s without any changes, and our developers and minds were dragged / killed / destroyed in the 90s?
Let them continue to think so, in which case they will then "calibrate" in the right direction along the way.

[Sura]

Judging by how amers were struck by air strikes and missiles, it really is, the body has grown, and thinking, like stuck at the level of a teenager, is neither here nor there.

[veksha50]

"this information can help American pilots in the event of a conflict with Russian pilots in Syria" ...

Hardly ... Even taking into account the fact that we still use the developments of the Soviet era, even over the past 10-15 years, what this pusher "sold" should have at least been modernized ... And other modernization can change the possibilities so much that mom do not cry ...

[VNP1958PVN]

And what a last name! - Tolkachev.

Tolkachev, Gorbachev! It’s not a matter of a surname, but a rotten soul! But the damage of course from such villains is immeasurable!

[kizhe]

in addition to this information, there is something new, as well as normal, not washed brains of our pilots.

[2s1122]

Well, he also surpassed the SU 24 to Japan (I was unsuccessful with the model), so that ears should always be kept at the top of the head.

[Redman]

We have such Adolfs ... But after all, many liberalists consider themselves patriots. How about this?

[Vladimir Pozlnyakov]

To organize from them regular replenishment of the labor market for camp rations in the Far North!

[tomket]

it’s not clear why the Americans need some kind of pusher and his information of the 80s, if only the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the USA are near the squadron. In addition, the Indians began to regularly conduct exercises with the Americans, so to speak, to test our equipment live.

[Tusv]

Quote: tomket

if only MiG-29 and Su-27 in the USA near the squadron.

They have full documentation for all Soviet equipment. Now the balls are rolling out. How so? Why is the manual not true?

[Scraptor]

Nitsche-nitsche ... here they will be trained on them and then they will get from them, any meanness is punishable.

Such renovations are contrary to the contract, although the most recently salted Ukrainians

[wild]

On foreign media, the article is just about him, read such a garbage dump ..

[Zumich]

In the 80s and 90s, everything in the country was staggering and popping, there were traitors, but it seems to me that now there are many more of them (traitors of the homeland, country), in education, medecine, in the economy, in the media, in other spheres of life, I think corruption and bribery, these are deliberately cultivated (embedded) dividers.
For me, this is: EXECUTE 'CANNOT BE FORCED.

[Mercenary]

Previously, the KGB didn’t forgive such tricks. Anyone and a traitor knew that he would be knocked down wherever he was !! If Tokachev on time (got into a car crash), he would rot somewhere and did not bark.

[Россия 24]

They would still have taken the data of 1945, then there was the most modern aviation, but Germany was defeated.

[viktor561]

Well, the story of another betrayal - in 1976, Belenko hijacked the MiG-25 to Japan - there the electronics on the MiG were antediluvian - but the "Friend or Foe" recognition system that got to the Americans left our airspace defenseless for a year and led to huge losses

[Tusv]

Quote: viktor561

The "friend or foe" that got to the Americans, left our airspace defenseless for a year and led to huge losses

There are interesting moments. The twenty-fifth was disassembled and the program of Drozd's flights was closed. At least we saved our country about a dozen billion dollars to counter Sr-71. In addition, air defense has received a significant leap in development. In the same recognition of "friend or foe". Changing codes takes a couple of seconds

[Scraptor]

Where does the information about "antediluvian" come from? Their American news? Nothing antediluvian - on the contrary, the Americans did not have such a thing and there was a great panic (those who are smarter and do not enter the VO for defecation) because they realized that the USSR was seriously preparing for a nuclear war.

[Swed]

The article was trimmed, so I found the following lines in it:

“The statistics are very revealing,” says Hoffman. - In Korea, for every six enemy aircraft shot down, the United States lost one aircraft. In Vietnam, we lost a plane for every two shot down. ”

Such dreamers As always, everything was done upside down, in the expectation that, after a couple of centuries, others would believe it.

[Tusv]

Quote: Swed

As always, everything was done upside down, in the expectation that, after a couple of centuries, others would believe it.

Hoffman hardly lies. Americans destroyed piston aircraft in Korea in such proportion, but fifteen appeared and spoiled all statistics. About Vietnam, too, does not lie 2 spots on one phantom. But the twenty first appeared and o5 statistics ruined

[Scraptor]

he lies and you repeat after him ... for example, there were several F-105s per phantom.

[rotmistr60]

this information can help American pilots in case of conflict with Russian pilots in Syria

Well, if Americans still use the information 30 years ago, then it is not surprising that every day they have more and more eyes on their foreheads.

[Aljavad]

Well, if Americans still use the information 30 years ago, then it is not surprising that every day they have more and more eyes on their foreheads.

And no one was surprised that the Obama had ideas about Russia, as if he had been sleeping lethargically since the 90s?

After the collapse of the USSR, these cool peppers cut spending on intelligence so much that they slept not only in Caliber, Crimea and Syria, but also in Putin.

(not for nothing, after the speech at the UN, "their" hardened announcer made a slip of the tongue and called him Yeltsin)

[YaMZ-238]

Americans would still use information on "Ilya Muromets" .....

[Radical]

Quote: bulvas

That's right, where does Russia get a new gas station in 30 years?

Keep listening to adolf

Listen does not work, he was exposed and shot. But he managed to inflict considerable damage!

[Belousov]

Everyone should know that there is an ice ax of the right size. And now - they live quietly in London and in the face, and even have not lost touch with the highest officials.

[NordUral]

Another selling highlighted.

[Cartman]

50 years have passed, hardly something very serious remains

[Briz]

Quote: Scraptor

he lies and you repeat after him ... for example, there were several F-105s per phantom.

;) I understood what I said ???

[Scraptor]

You do not understand what you read.

[Old26]

Quote: Penetrator

Undoubtedly, the parents were Hitlerophiles

And most importantly, they were seers. Dali having 6 years before the name of Hitler became widely known Or maybe he was named after Wagner ???

Quote: BilliBoms09

He was born in 1929

in 1927