the USSR

the USSR



The people with whom I happened to communicate are divided into two categories: those who caught the USSR and those who did not. Very often they can not understand each other, the differences in world perception are colossal. So, I was born in the USSR in the midst of stagnation, in a family of a simple Moscow turner and a simple lab assistant. I remember my first conscious aspiration: my grandfather is sitting reading a newspaper. I walk up, look at the columns of letters, ask: "Grandfather, what are you doing?" "I read". I really wanted to learn to read. Grandma worked as a teacher of Russian in primary school. Taught quickly. By the age of six I already read quite fluently. I remember I really wanted to go to school. Everything was interesting, I wanted to know so much. In our first class there were forty two people. There were six first grades in school, and I was in the first E. Then, when I was already in the fourth grade, there were ten first grades. Yes, yes, in our school was 1-th K! Well, I mean that there were a lot of children, very much.

I must say that reading was my favorite activity. I read everything that I came across - right up to the tear-off calendars (who did not know or forgot, there, on the back of each tear-off page, various useful information was posted). I wrote and read from cover to cover the magazines "Young Technician", "Technique - Youth", "Science and Life", sometimes I read something from the magazine "Radio", which my father wrote out, for a long time persuaded parents to write out the magazine "At the Wheel" , and persuaded yet. In the Roman Gazeta I read about Aniskin, in Yunost I read A Clockwork Orange, "History of love "," Island of Crimea ". Father somewhere got" The Seeker "- it was a whole treasure! I read" Pioneer Truth ", and then" Komsomolskaya Pravda ", the newspaper" Trud "and" Evening Moscow ".

Grandmother collected and handed over waste paper. For 20kg handed waste paper you could get a coupon for a book. We have all the cabinets were filled with books, acquired in this way: Dumas and Jack London, Fenimore Cooper and Maurice Druon, Jules Verne and Maupassant, Conan Doyle and Edgar Poe - and not even remember all.

Three years in a row he spent two months on the Black Sea, in a pioneer camp. I learned to swim there when I was six years old. Years in 10-11 soldered an acoustic switch - clap your hands, the light turns on! Yes, I knew how a transistor works and what a capacitor is before we went through it in physics school. One glider was somehow collected with my father, but somehow the cutter, there was still need to tighten the gum and then they twisted the screw, but the hobby did not become, it did not go. At home, my father collected a small lathe and I was already in the sixth grade and knew how to sharpen different Circuits and cut threads. In the 9-10-classes on the CPC there was an auto-business, after the 10-class received the rights of category C, that is, upon reaching 18 years, he could easily work as a truck driver: the profession was immediately after graduation. Naturally could fix the car, leaking tap, well, in general, almost any mechanism. Drive a nail, drill a hole in the wall. Thanks to his father, he could navigate in the forest and distinguish edible mushrooms from inedible ones. To make a fire in the rain. Fish catch in the river. It is not God knows that for the majority of the inhabitants of our immense country, but for the inhabitants of the metropolis?

We lived not poor and not rich - in abundance. The state has provided a three-room apartment for four. Clothes were on demand - he wore both a padded jacket and boots with galoshes when he was small. Sneakers my first remember so far. Bicycles were bought as they grow up: "Butterfly", "Schoolboy", "Salute".

Those who read this far might have thought: why am I telling all this? But why: I did not read anywhere then, no one told me, neither the parents, nor the teachers, nor the television that the person lives for the dough! I am one of those who did not fit into the market. Did not become a capitalist. No, of course, I did not live in misery, the right skills to avoid starvation were above the roof. I knew a lot about the world, but! I knew nothing in my childhood about the loot. I did not know what to make connections. I did not know that lawyers and economists are the most necessary and respected and common professions. In the union for speculation there was a criminal article, and it turned out, it turned out, to learn to speculate - would be a "respected person" now!

And here I look at those who grew up under capitalism. Degradation - I will not find another word. Virtual reality and money. Money and virtual reality. Salvage, old ladies, cabbage, greens. Brands and cars. Chicks and panicles.

Now, of course, everything is changing for the better. Sport develops, began to read slowly. Circles and sections are being revived. And this is good news. But after all the whole generation of "effective managers" has grown. After all, you cannot alter them already ... Well, the victims of the Unified State Exam are breeding all over the country again.

Also looking for the answer, here's the question: the development of capitalism is expansion. Business must grow. Business needs advertising, new and new consumers are needed, the business does not benefit products that can be used for decades, and then be inherited. Business has not satisfied needs for a long time, but creates them and then satisfies them. Science is absolutely not interested in business for the sake of discoveries, if these discoveries cannot be monetized. Business is not interested in creating a business that will pay off in twenty to thirty years! The business is interested in loan interest, stocks, futures, options and other bonds. Hundreds and thousands of percent of profit, right now - what are twenty to thirty years? I beg you ... And how to be? What will we have for the system? Business system? No, have not heard.

What kind of people do this business system need? Is this business system interested in smart, well-read, broad-minded, sports? Who do they need, such people? Does a “modern” person have time to raise his head and look at the stars? Just look, for free, for nothing? But this does not make a profit. Everything is measured by profit in our business system. And we wonder why we all this? Why increase the welfare of individuals who buy cars for the price of three apartments? What put life in the battle for loot? Do not you think that things have lost their meaning? Not things for people, but people for things. Markets. Not countries, not people, but markets. Numbers, percentages, dividend profits.

You know, I would give everything for the opportunity to return to childhood, and live it again, only consciously: realizing that I can, being a six-year-old kid, spend the whole day until late evening in the street with friends, and know that mom is calm, does not drink valerian and does not call the police. That prices in a year and in five years will not change, and that if I have a job, I will not feel needy, and the work in my life is not at all important, and most importantly family, children, books, sports. What can you dream about space flights and other planets. That my country is the best in the world: the richest in talented engineers and scientists, doctors, teachers and just good people. The most powerful country in the world that helps other countries.

Somehow it sounds pathetic, but I feel so, what can I do ...

So, here is the main question: is it possible to remove the financial dominant from today's life? And if so, what to replace? How to make millions of people wake up from the trouble of financial charms and become people again?
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  1. Finches 20 October 2015 05: 55 New
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    What do I want to say to that? Like Kushner’s there: "Times don’t choose. They live and die! "
    1. Rostovchanin 20 October 2015 06: 14 New
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      It feels like the author has been spying on me all my life and writing off this article from me, the only inaccuracy is that the first bike was not “Butterfly”, but “Little” laughing good
      1. sa-ag 20 October 2015 06: 22 New
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        Quote: Rostovchanin
        It feels like the author has spied on me all my life and deducted from me

        As for reading, it’s exactly from me, the only difference is that my mother worked in the library, so there was something to read to me :-)
        1. nils 20 October 2015 06: 26 New
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          Quote: Rostovchanin
          there was something to read :-)


          And I want to return to the Soviet Union!
          1. vovanpain 20 October 2015 07: 33 New
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            The empire is alive while its last soldier is alive.
            1. Ross_ulair 20 October 2015 10: 27 New
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              Quote: vovanpain
              The empire is alive while its last soldier is alive.


              I think this is not only the case. The point is in each of us. And in our children - upbringing is the foundation of the basics. If children see that their parents are ready for anything for the sake of money, how can they grow up with others?

              A little bit about yourself.
              The Union found quite a bit (but managed to become October smile ), When he was just ruined, he finished elementary school.
              The family is not to say that it is very ordinary ... He was born in the city of Rostov the Great, near Yaroslavl. The town is small - 36 thousand inhabitants. Both grandfathers are directors of enterprises. One permanent director of the Rostov DCS. He was appointed director in 1964, at the age of 28. And until his retirement, in 2006, with a short break and work in the executive committee in the late 70s, he rebuilt half of the city. An honored builder of the USSR, after graduation he left for the Urals (my mother was born there) by distribution, and in the 64th he was returned to Rostov. He himself came from Sevastopol, after the start of World War II, his father, my great-grandfather, sent him with his mother, sister and brother away from the war.
              After the collapse of the grandfather with the employees of the DCS created a joint-stock company, tried to start working in new conditions. But he did not know how to lie and steal, and honestly, under the conditions of the new government, he didn’t work very well ... He did not take bribes and did not give them in principle, respectively, and they received contracts in the new Russia according to the residual principle. In the 90s they had difficult times, for months ZP was not paid, but not one of the employees ever said bad things about their grandfather - they saw and knew that he also received nothing.
              The second grandfather - the director of the Rostov Aggregate Plant, produced oil and gas pumps for the Yaroslavl Motor. The story is one to one. The only thing - in the 95th grandfather passed away after a long illness.
              Grandmothers - the first master at the construction site, the second nurse in the hospital.

              I was brought up for the most part by the older generation - it somehow happened that I always reached out for them, went on all vacations, almost every weekend when I was in elementary school. And from the 5th grade and all of my parents and I moved to Rostov (before that we lived in Zagorsk, now Sergiev-Posad, my father worked as a foreman at ZOMZ, after the collapse of the country, the factory made sights for tanks and aircraft in the Union, the management collapsed and plundered very fast pace), and I settled with my grandparents smile

              It was they who laid down in me the rejection of lies and meanness.

              I never understood, and I don’t understand, people who were ready to “gnaw their teeth” for a career, paving their way for the “corpses” of colleagues - when I was offered this, the next day I put a statement on the table, although they offered a raise, a big salary. And my children will not understand, I think - there will simply be no one to tell.

              And if each of us will work honestly, it does not matter by anyone - even by the worker, or even by the owner of the business - then the situation will be different, and the questions discussed in the article will disappear.

              The situation is not only ours. In the States, it’s no better - if before there was a solid middle class, which included not only lawyers and plankton, but also working specialties - many worked in factories for generations! - now capitalism is voicing a new call: become a millionaire by 30! And how - nobody cares: steal, betray, sell - winners are not judged. And ordinary Americans, accustomed to working with their own hands or head fly by the same way as people of the Soviet school. Where is now the famous US "automobile belt"? But not him ... And millions of people without work
              1. Uncle Joe 20 October 2015 11: 57 New
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                Quote: ROSS_Ulair
                laid in me rejection of lies and meanness.

                And if each of us will work honestly, it doesn’t matter by anyone - even by a worker business owner - then the situation will be different, and the questions voiced in the article will disappear
                laughing

                1. Baikonur 21 October 2015 13: 36 New
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                  I also want to return to the USSR !!! And my wife is in solidarity! And the parents! And all the friends!
                  and these businesses to speculators (by their names) called, considered!
                  And the stars were real! How can the current ones be put on a par, for example, with Leonov, Nikulin, Stakhanov, GAGARIN, ... ??? !!!

                  I'd like to return to the other side of the mirror! And do not stay in the looking glass!
                  1. Ivan Ivanovich 21 October 2015 21: 03 New
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                    What will you do for this?
                  2. Sling cutter 23 October 2015 01: 05 New
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                    Quote: Baikonur
                    Baikonur

                    Well, Baikonur, are you joining the party?
              2. Biget 20 October 2015 14: 54 New
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                Quote: ROSS_Ulair
                Quote: vovanpain
                The empire is alive while its last soldier is alive.

                It was they who laid down in me the rejection of lies and meanness.


                The most important contribution to raising a child is made by his parents.
                My son is now 7 years old and sometimes I am amazed when I look at his peers.
                Many simply have no childhood: classes, circles, sections, tutoring.
                I don’t even want to talk about computers, the Internet and other gadgets (an eight-year-old nephew, if not with a tablet, then at playstation). It is often easier for parents to put their child behind games so as not to interfere.

                That is why I try to give my son a childhood. Fortunately, there is the opportunity to send my son all summer to my grandmother to the sea. He doesn’t have a computer there, but he has an uncle a year older and a street where the boys are waiting (since he has been coming for the third year already).
                The wife, of course, sometimes is shocked when she hears the stories of her son that she and her friends found a dead cat, made her a coffin out of the box and buried it.
                But the child develops independence. There he can go to the grocery store himself, walk until a certain time, and not until he rings on his cell phone, well, be naughty and naughty too. In everyday life, you also need to devote your time to the child, even when sometimes after work there is no strength. Let it be 10-15 minutes of conversation before bedtime, but the child should feel attention to his problems and emerging issues.

                Parents to a greater extent shape the worldview of the child, and if the parents did not have childhood, then what will their children have. How will they grow?

                I like N. Grinko’s song on this subject:

                Just a little bit, and you grow up, Masha. A tooth will grow new, where will it go,
                And tasteless porridge will become tasty, although its taste will not change a fig.
                Such a paradox. You will soon understand this word and understand a lot of other things gradually,
                And the stars will appear again and again, and ours will pass along the moon without fail.

                You will certainly become courageous, honest and strong - you will like it!
                Never hurt others; they themselves will do just fine.
                Remember that many friends do not exist. Know that the road is terrible with bends.
                Cry if bad, sometimes it helps. Don’t drink, I tried - it doesn’t work.

                It usually breaks where it is thin. There is more air with open windows.
                Ride fast. Listening to music is loud. The sky is blue. The sea is wet.
                The solution is right away. The clutch is smooth. A torn heart cannot be smeared with anything.
                And by the way, money is not the main thing in life. Money is not the main thing in life, Masha.
                1. Mahmut 20 October 2015 17: 38 New
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                  Somehow it sounds pathetic, but I feel so, what can I do ...

                  Well, why pathetic. It turned out well, sincerely, from the heart. And most importantly, without lies and exaggerations.
                  1. Talgat 20 October 2015 20: 43 New
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                    And I believe that the USSR is not dead - it is alive in the hearts of millions in the Russian Federation and in our KZ

                    Which means he will be reborn in some new guise

                    The main thing is that there are 2 ideas

                    1. Social Justice-THE TRUTH

                    2. What should not be separated — the peoples of the USSR should be together — they have nothing to divide, but there is much to protect together.

                    About the third idea - the Eurasian world and the history of the steppe - the Golden Horde does not even have to be campaigned - it firstly follows from the first two - secondly, it is so GREAT and eternal - that it lives on its own and regularly gives birth to the great Eurasian empire - the Huns-Atillas, Desht and Kipchak - the Golden Horde, Russia then the USSR - and believe me, this is not the end
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                3. Ded_smerch 22 October 2015 13: 36 New
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                  My elder is essentially lonely, my upbringing made him so. She’s not interested in any nonsense, she reads books (how I read tempered steel 3 times), she is engaged in self-development (not about money). And I think that his life will be lonely in a sense (it will be difficult to find friends, and even more so for a girl).
              3. voffchik7691 20 October 2015 23: 28 New
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                "And if each of us will work honestly, it doesn’t matter by anyone - even by the worker, or even by the owner of the business - then the situation will be different, and the questions voiced in the article will disappear."

                I do not agree - nothing happens and these questions will not disappear! And my friends and I are honestly working, but I think that in spite of this, neither the Deripaska, nor the prokhorov, nor the Sechin (the best worker in Russia once he has a salary of 20 lemons per month!) Will not return to the state the dishonestly received billions!
                And business owners will not voluntarily pay a white salary (even in tax receive a salary in envelopes)! This can only happen if they are very CONSIDERATELY asked!
                So, as one well-known mafioso said: “With a kind word and a colt, much more can be achieved than just with a kind word”!
                I completely agree with the rest.
            2. captain 20 October 2015 14: 44 New
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              I was also born in the USSR, almost immediately after the death of Stalin in the family of a soldier in the GDR. For all my life I have never been able to get to the pioneer camp, probably my parents did not deserve this award. My father participated in the suppression of the rebellion in the GDR at the time. I also loved and love to read. The most interesting thing is that my dad and mother were immigrants from the peasants and I often visited my grandparents at a party. They were members of a collective farm, so no one gave them a three-room apartment, apparently the collective farmers in the USSR were second-class people. My grandmothers received a pension in 1974 12 rubles 50 kopecks, having worked from 16 years on the collective farm until retirement. I was lucky, my grandfathers returned from the war, although they were disabled and received a pension of 35 rubles. And my housemate in Kiev, being a plumber in the REU, received a pension of 60 rubles. Of course, I understand the author, because the peasants were a petty-bourgeois element and they were not worth paying. They did not go on trips to the Crimea and the Caucasus, they had never been to Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia. One of my grandmothers had never left the village for all her life and naturally had very good medical care. They worked straight in their gardens until their death. My housemate in Kiev, he also worked in the country, for his pleasure. I fought in Afghanistan and never managed to get to the sanatorium, then there was no place, then only in winter and in Petrozavodsk. I don’t want to in the USSR, not because I’m living better now, but because the whole top of our party and its middle and junior managerial link deceived people. All the children and grandchildren of our general secretaries live in the West, only the children of Chernenko in Russia, all the children of our secretaries of all stripes and now in power, have only changed the sign. It turns out that they all fooled us and they lived for themselves, and they only allowed the proletariat to live in enterprises, so that there would be someone, in which case they would drive the peasants and the discontented. When there were discontent among the workers, they were shot, as in Novocherkassk or in Grozny. I do not want in the USSR, I want everything in our country to be normal.
              1. Robinzon57 20 October 2015 17: 41 New
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                Quote: captain
                My grandmothers received a pension in 1974 12 rubles 50 kopecks, having worked from 16 years on the collective farm until retirement. I was lucky, my grandfathers returned from the war, although they were disabled and received a pension of 35 rubles.

                My Grandmother in 1970 also had a pension of 16 rubles, but her two sons, who returned from the war with by the fascists-My father and uncle each salary (and they earned well, and did not drink) gave grandmother 15 rubles. And the grandmother did not live in poverty. The one who works, and does not “thump”, lived well under the Communists, and now it’s normal. And I do not sympathize with you. We must work and not complain!
                1. Mahmut 21 October 2015 05: 46 New
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                  It is good when both sons returned from the war and help their parents. And what to do to those whose son died, or even worse disappeared. How do they live on a village pension. An asterisk on the hut will help little.
                  He served on Sakhalin in the early 80s. So, the lieutenant’s salary began with 500 rubles + 50 rubles for each asterisk. + Housing + free travel on military demand + dry rations (carcass, condensed milk). The Wöntberg supply was better than behind the fence of a military town. But I didn’t hear about pioneer camps in Sakhalin. Perhaps in some places there were problems with this.
                  1. Sling cutter 23 October 2015 01: 37 New
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                    and those that in those days, 500 re was not enough?
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                2. veteran66 21 October 2015 14: 40 New
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                  but her two sons, who returned from the war with the Nazis, my father and uncle, each salary (and they earned well, and did not drink) gave their grandmother 15 rubles.

                  why grandmother, having earned more, lives at the expense of her sons. which, in turn, should tear money from the family budget that the state should pay?
              2. Hleb 20 October 2015 17: 47 New
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                from the same red color is not clear why. for the opinion? spoke honestly and calmly.
                try to scout brother in dispensaries. twice a year they are required. now it seems that the state is paying attention to this. we are still helping in Siberia, but I can’t call it full help. maximum two weeks and free. well, at least something
              3. Mahmut 20 October 2015 17: 53 New
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                Well, of course, you lied about a pension of 12 rubles 50 kopecks. My grandmother lived on a collective farm and received a pension of as much as 28 rubles. And the second grandmother - the weaver, that is, the proletariat, received a pension of 50 rubles + 5 rubles for the sign of the drummer of the Stakhanov movement, which Kalinin personally handed to her.
                So we lived happily, though in the passage rooms of small families.
                1. yehat 23 October 2015 00: 58 New
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                  as for housing: do not forget that the USSR was rebuilding itself after the war and great devastation, and they did not allow it to live in peace, starting the Cold War immediately.
                  But, after the war, the USSR was more than 20 years a world leader in housing construction. There were economic mistakes, Kasatonov speaks well of them, but it is obvious that the state took care of people and that they did not die of hunger and had a future. And now, if dad is not a millionaire who looted during perestroika, no one can be sure of his future.
                  1. Sling cutter 23 October 2015 01: 03 New
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                    Hammer! You understand everything !!! +100500
                2. veteran66 23 October 2015 08: 26 New
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                  + 5 rubles for the sign of the drummer of the Stakhanov movement, which Kalinin personally handed to her.

                  That's all the respect of the state, a 5-ruble sign, although it was given with great difficulty and then to your grandmother. But I think that labor should be evaluated not in badges, but in rubles, because there aren’t enough badges with Kalinins for all hard workers, but thanks to the Soviet leveling, the loafers lived no worse, or maybe better hard workers. An example of my relatives is grandmothers. One - in the city a butterfly fluttered 60 rubles. pensions, the other - on the collective farm for a stick worked - 22 rubles. for old age. Feel the difference.
                  Quote: Mahmut
                  So we lived happily, though in the passage rooms of small families.

                  and were happy in their poverty, and the third secretary, and even a simple instructor of the district committee in a comfortable apartment in the city center "plowed in the sweat of his face"
              4. skeptic31 20 October 2015 18: 49 New
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                Rotmister, are you all serious? Do you really not understand that this is paranoia? My biography is almost 100% similar to yours, but we lived in completely different countries, and in order to describe something I do not have to suck out such nonsense from my finger. Yes, even as students we constantly went to rest either in the Crimea or the Caucasus. All this pleasure was worth a penny. A reserved seat ticket there cost only 10 rubles. And about the fact that the children of the military did not go to pioneer camps, or how bad things were in the village in the 70s, this is just class. Do not think that I'm trying to convince you. It’s just from the same category as almost daily shows about empty shelves in the Soviet Union. Filming of the beginning of the 90s is taken, when the "reformers" have already worked hard and are transferred to the beginning of the 80s or even in the 70s. This is not what it once was, but because someone wanted it to appear that it was.
                1. voffchik7691 20 October 2015 23: 50 New
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                  skeptic31 totally agree with you!

                  The first time I hear that the children of the military did not go to the pioneer camps. For the 70s I can’t say anything in the first grade I went to 74, but for the 80s I can. My father drank (to put it mildly), the family lived on her mother’s salary (worked as a fireman in the boiler room) 86 rubles + something paid extra until I was 12 or 14 years old. So, as I wanted to pioneer camp, it was instantly resolved. The issue price is 12 rubles!

                  But the military lived better (I'm not talking about moving to new places of service). My classmate persuaded me to go to a military school with him and one of his arguments: 210 rubles will be paid only for lieutenant stars. But does the captain know how much it was necessary to plow at the factory to get the same 210 rubles ?!

                  So dear captain, do not tell tales to those who found that time! And lying to the youth is on your conscience! Someday (if there is a final judgment) you will be counted!
                  No, I do not want to say that at that time there was a paradise life, there were difficulties. But it was necessary to eliminate the shortcomings: to plant the stolen, to pay more attention to goods which were not enough. And in return, they destroyed everything good, having inflated bribery, theft, nepotism, etc.
                  1. tegezen 21 October 2015 10: 50 New
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                    In the Russian village it was, as Rotmister writes, poverty, dirt, rampant drunkenness and no Krymov, my father worked hard as a leper from morning till night, and I do not remember that he would have a vacation. I have never been to a pioneer camp either. But this is all nonsense my main complaint to the owls. the authorities are eternal lies about a wonderful life and prosperity. Until my age I thought that our village was some kind of mistake, or they forgot about us, but everything was fine somewhere, like in a newspaper or in a movie about electronics .. There were inequalities in the Union, allied republics lived much better than the Russian Federation, urban lived better than a village, bosses are better than hard workers. No need to idealize the Union.
                    1. EvgNik 22 October 2015 08: 22 New
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                      Quote: tegezen
                      my main complaint to the owls. authorities is an eternal lie about a wonderful life and enough

                      You might think they don’t lie now. More!
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                    A classmate was a good "soldering iron", he assembled a receiver at school. After school at the vocational school of instrument engineering, 9 months, then to the factory. Salary - up to 250 rubles ... Plus, the antennas were riveted to receive Polish programs (we live near the border). Before the army, a portrait was already hanging on the Hall of Fame! “AND WHY DO YOU INSTITUTE FOR ME?” - so he answered my suggestions and questions ... They lived in a military town, almost EVERYONE could send their children to pioneer camps, at least my brother and I did not get out in the summer. There was a shortage, I do not argue, my mother raised me to school twice a week, occupied the line in the store, brought meat and sausage products ... But I liked this, because I was accepted as an adult! Naked, barefoot and hungry we did not go! A guide ... There were all sorts, but thieves are several times less! And after all, there was a good human law, the top manager (director, manager, manager, etc.) received only 30% more than a highly skilled worker. Here is social justice! And the deficit ... And count how much time has passed after the most terrible war ?! Was it easy to restore everything? And no one helped us, they actually lived under sanctions, and much more serious than now! And nothing, they lived ... It is clear that this time will not come back, no need to spare him! You just need to take the best from him and move on. People have already well understood that the "democracy" of the West is not suitable for us by definition! Let there be anyone in power (God grant health and long life to V.V. Putin!), If only he was a person who wants the prosperity and prosperity of Russia! And we just need to work and be sick for our country!
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                      (director, manager, manager, etc.) received only 30% more than a highly skilled worker. Here is social justice!

                      I agree, but then the director had the wrong responsibility, only a plan to fulfill it. ALL THE OTHER TAKE THE STATE ON YOURSELF (supply and sales, social programs, staffing, equipment supplies and depreciation, and much more). But how much more did the same highly skilled worker receive, besides working from a loafer? We have one young turner who decided to make money before the wedding, he plowed without smoke breaks and lunch .... earned))) after the delivery of the order, they calculated such a salary that the runners ran up and immediately reduced the prices, and now the whole team had to be so squirming. This turner came to the wedding without money and beatings.
                2. captain 21 October 2015 13: 39 New
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                  I can disappoint you, which is very serious. Yes, I went as a cadet and went as an officer to the sea, on vacation, at my own expense. And I do not suck nonsense from a finger. I wrote you the truth about my grandfathers. It is to your joy that Khrushchev in the USSR took and gave Crimea with the people of Ukraine, and now you are joyful with everyone who writes to me about nonsense and drunkenness, rejoice at his return. It’s like you are glad that in the USSR they gave Kazakhstan several Russian regions with the people and you joyfully say that this was done correctly. I want to look at your delight when the president of Kazakhstan changes and Russians flee from this republic, such as you will rejoice, how rejoiced when the Russians fled from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, from Chechnya, etc. It is to your joy that the people who created the USSR presented Ukraine with the whole Southeast, which never belonged either to Poland or the Commonwealth and, naturally, to Ukraine, together with people. They started shooting and burning these people, and people like you are ready to give as many more, just not to remember how you went to Crimea for ten rubles. Instead of feeding their people, under the USSR, they fed all of Africa, part of the Middle East, etc. And you forgot about your people, although if you are a resident of a metropolis, such as Moscow, then why take care of this cattle. They lived very well in the village if the village was not far from the city or if the inhabitants of this village belonged to the managerial class. It is a pity that you do not live now in Uzbekistan or Tajikistan. It was in the USSR that Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Chubais (the son of a colonel in political affairs), Gaidar, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, Saakashvili, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich and the like, were brought up to you, gentlemen, minuscule people like this, I'm glad for you. I do not want in the USSR.
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                    Captain -100500.
                  2. Sagittarius YaNAO 21 October 2015 19: 59 New
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                    Quote: captain
                    I can disappoint you, which is very serious. Yes, I went as a cadet and went as an officer to the sea, on vacation, at my own expense. And I do not suck nonsense from a finger. I wrote you the truth about my grandfathers. It is to your joy that Khrushchev in the USSR took and gave Crimea with the people of Ukraine, and now you are joyful with everyone who writes to me about nonsense and drunkenness, rejoice at his return. It’s like you are glad that in the USSR they gave Kazakhstan several Russian regions with the people and you joyfully say that this was done correctly. I want to look at your delight when the president of Kazakhstan changes and Russians flee from this republic, such as you will rejoice, how rejoiced when the Russians fled from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, from Chechnya, etc. It is to your joy that the people who created the USSR presented Ukraine with the whole Southeast, which never belonged either to Poland or the Commonwealth and, naturally, to Ukraine, together with people. They started shooting and burning these people, and people like you are ready to give as many more, just not to remember how you went to Crimea for ten rubles. Instead of feeding their people, under the USSR, they fed all of Africa, part of the Middle East, etc. And you forgot about your people, although if you are a resident of a metropolis, such as Moscow, then why take care of this cattle. They lived very well in the village if the village was not far from the city or if the inhabitants of this village belonged to the managerial class. It is a pity that you do not live now in Uzbekistan or Tajikistan. It was in the USSR that Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Chubais (the son of a colonel in political affairs), Gaidar, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, Saakashvili, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich and the like, were brought up to you, gentlemen, minuscule people like this, I'm glad for you. I do not want in the USSR.



                    Why aren't you president ....
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                    Quote: captain
                    Yes, I went as a cadet and went as an officer to the sea, on vacation, at my own expense. And I do not suck nonsense from a finger.


                    Suck, suck. Both cadets and officers went on vacation and travel free of charge, according to travel documents.
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                4. veteran66 21 October 2015 14: 45 New
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                  Filming of the beginning of the 90s is taken, when the "reformers" have already worked hard and are transferred to the beginning of the 80s or even in the 70s.

                  Why carry it over? I saw them myself, yes, they were not literally empty, but for the meat, and not the soup sets from the counter, my mother at 6 in the morning stood in line at the store and this was still considered our court garrison. Everywhere there are lines and shortages, dangers and entrances from the yard.
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                  In the 70s there were no empty shelves - there were rows of three-liter jars of juice, processed cheese, fish, there were lines for sausage (I still hate lines), everything was high-quality and tasty, there were only 2 channels on TV.
                  But how good and calm it was in those days ...
                  You could walk the streets without fear that you would be killed or robbed. There were, of course, crimes, but thieves were planted, murderers were shot, corruption was only in Uzbekistan and the republics next to him. The cottages of the leaders were so "large" that, in comparison with the current castles, they only cause emotion ...
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                For all my life I have never been able to get to the pioneer camp, probably my parents did not deserve this award
                I really wanted to laughing
                Or maybe they did not consider it necessary to send you there?

                They were members of a collective farm, so no one gave them a three-room apartment, apparently the collective farmers in the USSR were second-class people
                Apparently in rural areas, on the territories belonging to collective farms, no apartment buildings were built.

                My grandmothers received a pension in 1974 12 rubles 50 kopecks
                The state pension, in addition to which there was a collective farm pension, which collective farms, former private collective enterprises, rural cooperatives, issued both in monetary and in kind.

                my grandfathers returned from the war, though with disabilities and received a pension of 35 rubles. And my housemate in Kiev, being a plumber in the REU, received a pension of 60 rubles
                The state (excluding collective farm) disability pension of 35 rubles versus the state labor pension of 60 rubles ... What an injustice ...

                Of course, I understand the author, because the peasants were a petty-bourgeois element and they were not worth paying. They did not go on trips to the Crimea and the Caucasus, have never been to Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia
                What a horror ... And I really wanted to go to Bulgaria ...




                I fought in Afghanistan and have never been able to get to the sanatorium, there was no place
                Now apparently built resorts and places enough for everyone ...

                I don’t want to in the USSR, not because I’m living better now, but because the whole elite of our party and its middle and junior managerial link deceived people
                In what period and with what do you compare?

                I do not want in the USSR, I want everything in our country to be normal.
                For all the good, against all the bad in short lol

                But tell me, captain: what kind of social security could a disabled war person who returned to his village in 1916 count on?
                1. Private Starley 21 October 2015 11: 35 New
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                  “Of course, I understand the author, because the peasants were a petty-bourgeois element and they should not have been paid. They did not go on trips to the Crimea and the Caucasus, they were never in Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia”

                  A blatant lie, I can judge on the basis that my grandmother, just the same, lived in a rural area in the East Kazakhstan region, worked at a cheese factory, and went to Bulgaria for a ticket, and my mother went to Artek for a ticket, too))) and all these benefits were, my grandmother for overfulfilling her plan, and my mother for excellent study, although she was not an excellent pupil round))) And grandfather was one of the first then received a new Lada 2101, as a veteran of the Second World War and an editorial, and they had passports , and they had a farm (three goat cows, chickens, pigs) that the state helped to develop, helped feed for earned workdays, and then meat and dairy products could be sold at the bazaar, although my grandparents did not do this, they bought everything they needed for wages, and meat, milk and sour cream helped all the relatives who lived in the city. And EVERYONE lived like that in this village ... and then the collapse of the union and everything was bent, there is no collective farm, instead of a cheese factory of the ALLIANCE value a small sausage shop ...
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                    that my grandmother, just the same, lived in a rural area in the East Kazakhstan region, worked at a cheese factory

                    living in rural areas in a compartment with work at the factory is not at all like plowing on a collective farm for workdays and 12 rubles a month. Feel the difference! Even a state farm differed from a collective farm like heaven from earth, although both were in rural areas.
                    1. Private Starley 21 October 2015 20: 28 New
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                      Of course, there is a difference, but the collective farms and state farms were either in the USSR, there was only one system ... I used to go to school to collect beets in my school years, and being a 12-year-old jerk I received money for my labor)))
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                      Quote: veteran66
                      Quote: Private Starley
                      that my grandmother, just the same, lived in a rural area in the East Kazakhstan region, worked at a cheese factory

                      living in rural areas in a compartment with work at the factory is not at all like plowing on a collective farm for workdays and 12 rubles a month. Feel the difference! Even a state farm differed from a collective farm like heaven from earth, although both were in rural areas.


                      quote myself
                      Egevich RU July 18, 2015 21:23 | For the external use of the truth is no more
                      Quote: captain
                      Incidentally, wages on collective farms were interesting; not money, but workdays. At enterprises, in party and state structures, they paid money in the way the peasants loved the Soviet power, who believed it and went to fight for it.

                      Well, yes, yes - there wasn’t enough evil when I got a 1-year-old kid (assistant to the combine operator) for 16 harvester, 900 rubles, 10 tons of grain, 250 liters of vegetable oil, 40 kg of honey, 300 kg of sugar, and a bunch of everything that didn’t fit in 2 sheds, where I cursing my oppressors, I pulled all this ... I lived with my grandfather and grandmother (it happened), and the collective farmer was me alone ... and God forbid, would everyone be collective farmers ??? it’s the Lord’s passions ... the year 1990 - it seems that the Soviet regime was still ... oh yes - the collective farmer’s labor book (it was written on it) really depressed me, I didn’t sleep at night, I was all worried about how to live with this stigma, and what to do with everything you have earned ... and the harvest and sowing every year ... they scoffed, bastards, at people ... because every peasant dreamed of selling his homeland and ruining the USSR from his young nails ...
                      what 12.50? Yes, and you were not standing near the village, what kind of nonsense? they will read nonsense for the night, and then frighten on forums ...
                      Yes. By the way, our neighbors worked four together on the collective farm, mother / father / son / daughter - these were problems, so problems, where to put everything ...
                      1. voffchik7691 22 October 2015 17: 43 New
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                        Egevich, I completely agree with you.
                        From April 1991 to February 1992 he was in Ukraine, in the Poltava region, Globinsky district, and the village of Sirotenki. I watched all this with my own eyes - after the end of the harvest, the collective farmers received pyshenitsa at 7 kopecks per kilo (in my opinion, 30% of the amount earned in the harvest). The average machine operator received a couple of Zil wheat dump trucks, and immediately drove to Globino - rented out 14 kopecks each! The old fitter at the MTS (this is not a mobile phone!) Cursed - did not know where to put the bags of sugar, the whole basement was full!
                        In every yard, there was a Ural motorcycle with a sidecar - a thing in the household is simply irreplaceable. Everyone drove on it. And for trips to the city - Lada!
                        At the foreman, he lived in the same yard with his father: 2 “Urals”, 1 “Dnieper” (this is the same “Ural” but with a wheelchair drive) VAZ 2106 and Gas 21.
                        That's how the USSR oppressed them!

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                        Quote: Egevich
                        when for 1 harvester I was a 16-year-old kid (assistant to the combine operator) I received 900 rubles, 10 tons of grain, 250 liters of vegetable oil, 40 kg of honey, 300 kg of sugar, and a bunch of everything that did not fit in 2 sheds, where I cursed my oppressors, I pulled it all away ... I lived with my grandfather and grandmother (it happened),

                        And you do not row everything into one comb, I lived next to the collective farm - a millionaire, in the sense of debt he had a million, I have seen enough of the collective farmers "earning 900 rubles for the harvest")))) yeah ... already there were holey pockets from money, so I’m making a big deal about your story. And in good collective farms on virgin lands, an experienced combine harvester received about 700 re, but there were not many such collective farms. And if there was such a paradise, why did all the youth in the city break?
                2. veteran66 21 October 2015 14: 57 New
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                  But tell me, captain: what kind of social security could a disabled war person who returned to his village in 1916 count on?

                  That's witty! And in the Stone Age, after an unsuccessful hunt for a mammoth, what could a hunter with broken legs count on?
                3. captain 21 October 2015 17: 31 New
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                  I am writing to everyone who puts a minus to me and accuses me of slander. I dare to call you all cowards and villains. If it was so good for you in the USSR, then why didn’t I see the volunteer records in the Red Guard when Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich brought down Soviet power? Where were you then? Why didn’t you come out in defense of such a respected authority? Why in 1918 in Russia there were people who opposed the Soviet power and fought against it, that is, did those people have a notion of dignity and a desire to defend the power that they defended? Where were you all, in 1991, who is here expelling about my opinion? Why didn’t you come to the defense of the Soviet power? I dare you all who enthusiastically talk about the Soviet regime called cowards and villains who lived at the expense of others, those who have been hunched over you all these years and who fought for you in the Civil and Great Patriotic War. The people did not defend this power, why? But you didn’t get up, because you got everything for free. How everything got for free in Ukraine.
                  1. pincet 21 October 2015 22: 30 New
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                    Quote: captain
                    I am writing to everyone who puts a minus to me and accuses me of slander. I dare call you all cowards and rascals

                    it’s supposed to answer for this ... and not in words ..
                    I also set you a minus, but I do not consider myself to be what you indiscriminately called many people ...
                    By the way, I, too, am not a fan of the USSR, but I consider your insults unacceptable
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                    The people did not defend this power, why?

                    What other people? The word "people" here means something capable of self-organization and meaningful activity. But who needs him so much? He will only interfere with any power. So there was and there is no people, there are only individual citizens with personal interests. And they interact directly with authorities. How many parties were in the USSR and why? And how many people's parties are there now? And if such a thing is suddenly identified, will the level of its creators allow to designate at least some sane and consistent program in reality?
                  3. MrK
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                    Quote: captain
                    Why in 1918 in Russia there were people who opposed the Soviet power and fought against it, that is, did those people have a notion of dignity and a desire to defend the power that they defended?


                    In Russia in the 1918 year there were people who opposed the Soviet government and fought against it in order to regain their property. Return the land taken from the landowners 26 million acres of land. Return to the bourgeois their factories and factories.
                    An did not work out. White warriors scattered around the world.
                    You are simply amazed at the hysteria and verbal urination of this officer who mistakenly received epaulettes.
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                      mistakenly received epaulettes, officer.

                      there still need to figure out who by mistake ...
                  4. voffchik7691 22 October 2015 18: 04 New
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                    Recently, I wrote a comment on this topic. I voted for the USSR in a referendum, and when they began to ruin the country, I did something that I could - argued with those for whom ebn was - a light in the window. Everyone was intoxicated with fairy tales about how well people live in the west. Several times it came to a fight. But what could I do global? And where in those days it was possible to take weapons to go to defend the country?
                    By the way, after a couple of years, those in the past, friends with whom it came to a fight, bashfully lowered their eyes when I asked them: "Did you want this? How do you live now?"
                    Many realized that jeans and a hamburger are not the most important thing in life, but the thing has already been done - the country is destroyed!
                  5. veteran66 22 October 2015 21: 03 New
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                    But you didn’t get up, because you got everything for free. How everything got for free in Ukraine.

                    Quite rightly, the USSR system is for the average peasant when in the general crowd like everyone else, and whoever raises his head will immediately get a power block from the authorities. So someone fell smarter and more talented for the cordon (inventors, artists, athletes), and in the USSR they later called them traitors
              6. Alf
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                Quote: captain
                I do not want in the USSR, I want everything in our country to be normal.

                As long as capitalism is in Russia, it will not live normally. For 25 years, didn’t you understand this?
              7. cuzmin.mihail2013 21 October 2015 00: 23 New
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                What is happening in Russia now, do you consider normal? In the USSR, of course, there was a rotten elite in power, but no one could even dream of such permissiveness as the current leaders allow themselves. Examples can be given a lot. These are accounts in foreign banks, and modest mansions on the shores of the Mediterranean, and complete non-subordination of the Criminal Code and the Criminal Procedure Code, and boorish driving of vehicles by them and their children, and ... And imagine a deputy of the USSR Armed Forces with such a salary as in our time in State Duma of the Russian Federation, generally no fantasy, no one would have had. I’m not talking about how the salaries of officials and workers differ, who can afford to be treated abroad and who can’t get an appointment with a therapist (and if he does, he won’t be able to buy medicine - there’s no money). And so on and so forth.
                What remained for ordinary citizens, during the USSR, was enough for a comfortable life.
                Of course, the families did not have 2-3 cars, there were no apartments of 200-300 square meters. m., there was no foreign furniture, and a lot of things weren’t ...
                But take a look around, now this is not the case and most of those living now are with you.
                So, what would you like to receive, so that everything is normal in our country?
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                  Quote: cuzmin.mihail2013
                  Of course, the families did not have 2-3 cars, there were no apartments of 200-300 square meters. m., there was no foreign furniture, and a lot of things weren’t ...
                  But take a look around, now this is not the case and most of those living now are with you.

                  I am a military pensioner and my father was a military pensioner in the USSR, but now I live better than him and my children live better than me in those years. And I have two cars in my family and an apartment of 106 square meters. so what kind of union do I need, with these lines for everything, with trips to second-rate camps and other joys of universal equality? Yes, now you are criticizing deputies, oligarchs and other "masters of life", but they were just in sight, before there were "golden youth" too, we simply did not know about it. But is it any better that you had to bow to a locksmith in a car service, to fix a car, bow to a seller in a store, to weigh a piece better, bow to a huckster on the street, bow to a plumber in the housing office to fix the pipes at home? No, I don’t want to go to the USSR and God forbid that the children get there too.
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                  At the rotten top, everything had a conscience and they themselves lived and gave to others. hi
              8. EvgNik 21 October 2015 05: 44 New
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                Quote: captain
                I do not want in the USSR, I want everything in our country to be normal.

                The USSR was still a socially oriented state. The distortions began with Khrushchev. And before Gorbachev, we did not know paid medicine, at night it was possible to walk along the street calmly, without fear of an attack. People were confident in their future, knew that they would not remain without work. If the Stalin line continued, then by the 85th year collective farmers would live like workers. Parasites were evicted from Moscow for the 101st kilometer from Moscow. And now it’s sickening to look at Moscow from the side - a bunch of villains, scum, blue and pink, bandits, officials plundering Russia. Not all, of course, are like that, but these are in sight. In the end, the whole world will come to socially organized states, because capitalism is only a transition period, arranging a miserable bunch of rich people, but this is when it will be. And we have already walked along this path.
                1. forwarder 21 October 2015 12: 36 New
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                  Quote: EvgNik
                  The USSR was still a socially oriented state. The distortions began with Khrushchev.

                  Of course. Take for example a small period in history.
                  In 1937 The “socially oriented state” provided 437591 people with FREE housing and meals. In the "safe and secure dormitories" of the Gulag system. And another 353074 people completely relieved of the "joys of life" by forcibly sending them to the next world.
                  In 1938 “wealthy” were 225640 people. And there are 328618 people who are “saved.”
                  Two years "socially oriented state" EVERYDAY "delivered from the joys of life" an average of 934 (disappear thirty-four) people from among fellow citizens. And another 909 (nine nine) EVERYDAY provided FREE housing and meals.
                  Of course, when Khrushchev abolished slave labor in the USSR, the USSR switched to self-eating. For some period of time, the reserves were enough, and then they ran out. The USSR collapsed.
                  Those who "want in the USSR" do not understand one simple truth. Post-Stalin USSR lived on stocks that were made through the lives of tens of millions of people in the Stalin period. There could be no second without the first. Those. you must first sacrifice the lives of tens of millions of people in different ways. And only then "live in a happy USSR."
                  But here there is one IMPORTANT subtlety. Just starve and shoot it makes no sense. It will turn out something like a half-starved and backward DPRK, and not a “happy USSR”. NeoSSSR for repetition will need more neo-Hitler and neo-Nazism in Germany. And also his conflict with the Anglo-Saxons. Then the latter will again hire the neo-Stalinists, as the allies hired Stalin at one time, and in the future will allow them to get hold of new technologies and equipment in SMALL PART Germany.
                  New technologies and equipment acquired in this way will ultimately greatly extend the existence of the neo-USSR, as was the case in the history of the USSR. But the end of the neoSSSR will be just as logical as the end of the USSR. Human society has long developed sustainable forms of self-organization. Fantasies on this subject are completely unacceptable. They are able to spoil the life of contemporaries who have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. But they cannot exist stably.
                  1. occupier 222 22 October 2015 14: 48 New
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                    And I thought hemp is just grass.
                    1. forwarder 22 October 2015 18: 56 New
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                      I thought

                      Really? It is not visible that you succeeded. Then try a few more times. At least 1 time is sure to succeed.
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                    Quote: forwarder
                    Of course. Take for example a small period in history.


                    Well, my dear, do not say that until the end of 1939 from the "safe and secure dormitories" of the Gulag system More than 330 000 people have been released.
                    Well you, my dear, do not say that until the end of 1940 8 000 security officers who formed fake counter-revolutionary affairs were shot.

                    Good. Take the short period of Yeltsin.
                    6 000 000 people have generally been spared from the "joys of life", and sent to the other world is not forced.

                    Let us take a short period until 2010 of our sunshine year. 4 000 000 people are generally spared from the "joys of life", sent to the other world is not forced.

                    Yes, Stalin is resting, compared to your filthy democrats.
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                      that by the end of 1939 more than 330 people had been released from the "safe and secure dormitories" of the Gulag system.

                      Of course, some of those who were imprisoned by the Bolsheviks in the Gulag before 1939, and there were 2629392 of them, ran out of time. Not all of them died there. Therefore, someone went out. Those. that someone was nevertheless freed was the great mercy of the Bolsheviks? All polls should have rotted in the Gulag?
                      By the way, in 1939. 54666 people went to replace the released. And this is only in the Gulag. But there were still links, deportations and other less severe measures of “social protection”.
                      Quote: mrark
                      that until the end of 1940, 8 security officers were shot, forming fake counter-revolutionary affairs.

                      And the Chekists, are these Martians? Who authorized them to fabricate these cases? Martian government?
                      Quote: mrark
                      Good. Take the short period of Yeltsin.

                      And why should I be interested in Yeltsin? Or Genghis Khan? Or a prophetic Oleg. No need to translate arrows.
                      Quote: mrark
                      compared to your filthy democrats.

                      Exactly as mine as yours.
                      Demagogue, damn it.
                  3. voffchik7691 22 October 2015 20: 26 New
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                    Where do such detailed numbers come from? Is it not from Solzhenitsyn? Laziness to rummage - there was an article on our website - a brief summary: when Khrushchev came to power, he requested figures about the repressed for the period from 1924 to 1953. So in the official note it was said that TOTAL was repressed for almost 20 years, there were less than 1,5 million people, of whom less than 400 thousand were executed. And in just one 38 year 328 618 people saved you!
                    Here is another such historian: https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = WMIcavKKPN8

                    The program is interesting, but I personally recommend watching it from 23:38 very entertaining!
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                      Quote: voffchik7691
                      Where do such detailed numbers come from? Is it not from Solzhenitsyn? Laziness to rummage - there was an article on our website - a brief summary: when Khrushchev came to power, he requested figures about the repressed for the period from 1924 to 1953. So in the official note it was said that TOTAL was repressed for almost 20 years, there were less than 1,5 million people, of whom less than 400 thousand were executed. And in just one 38 year 328 618 people saved you!
                      Here is another such historian: https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = WMIcavKKPN8

                      I join all that you said.
                      I just constantly want to ask a question to the “accusers of bloody gebni” -And those innocently convicted, weren't they guilty?
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                    2. forwarder 22 October 2015 21: 46 New
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                      For the period from 1921 to the first half of 1, according to the official certificate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 1953/11.12.1953/5.660.262. 14.500 people were convicted. An average of 862.983 people per month. Of these, 15,2 people were shot. 2.200% of sentences. This is an average of 32,5 people every month. Almost a rifle regiment of the wartime state was shot every month for 3.628.683 years. Of the total number of convicts, 1.168.596 were sent to the Gulag. Those. into slavery, to hard labor, if you call a spade a spade. Many of them survived and returned home? I doubt it. Another XNUMX people were sentenced to exile, expulsion and other punitive measures. Not the Gulag, of course. But memoirs of special settlers are also available. So, what a nightmare it was, too, is widely known.
                      And these are only those for whom there are sentences of courts, triples, etc. And how many were "spanked" without trial? Especially during the war. They did not get into any statistics.
                    3. voffchik7691 22 October 2015 22: 06 New
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                      And what is the minus? FOR FIVE THOUSAND MILLION PEOPLE? This broadcast is from 06/09/2008 Historian N. Petrov.

                      So it is not I who said!
                2. veteran66 21 October 2015 15: 11 New
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                  Parasites were evicted from Moscow for the 101st kilometer. And now it’s sick to look at Moscow from the side

                  what's the difference where they are? Or do you want the 101st kilometer to be sick? Why do you so hate people (not Muscovites)?
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                    Quote: veteran66
                    Why do you so hate people (not Muscovites)?


                    I respect Muscovites. But it’s hard to find a Muscovite in Moscow today.
                    There, every second child born last year has parents - immigrants from Asia.
                    And the rest, as my mother used to say, go ahead (in the sense, they wandered there insolently).
              9. Horn 21 October 2015 09: 22 New
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                My year of birth is 1962. But I did not live in your USSR. In some other lived. I also had a grandmother who received a pension of about 30 rubles. Then this pension grew little by little. Once every two years, my grandmother came from Prokopyevsk to the Chimkent region. To visit us. Over 3000 km. The first Lada appeared with us in 1977. Father is a driver, mother is a teacher. Country teacher, hedgehog cho. An ordinary family. All of us, three sons, studied at institutes. The youngest is in Riga, in the RVVAIU, I am in Novosibirsk, the middle is in Kemerovo.
                And about the "snickering top", so under the USSR there were no billionaires in the leadership. Stupidly was not. There was such a policy.
                Therefore, in my USSR I want.
              10. MrK
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                I do not want in the USSR, I want everything in our country to be normal.


                Mr. captain, honestly how do you earn your daily bread?
              11. 97110 21 October 2015 12: 28 New
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                I was born in the USSR,

                Unfortunately, this is also true. It was 12 rubles that my grandmother received. And I have never been to a pioneer camp. But I remember the good. As a crowd of boys went fishing for the night. And the parents were not worried, although Vychegda is a serious river, and everyone lived there. But today people are more terrible. And no one would think of letting a child of 8-10 years old go fishing with an overnight stay.
              12. Antoshka 21 October 2015 14: 29 New
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                Jealousy of the children of “our secretaries of all stripes” says in you, apparently in your family they paid great attention to this, since you even have nothing to remember from your childhood. By the way, my brother also fought in Afghanistan, was wounded. I was not in the sanatorium, just like you, but you don’t hold any evil and the USSR remembers with a smile.
              13. veteran66 21 October 2015 14: 39 New
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                And what are the minuses instructed man? Is he wrong? These are not conclusions, but life. I would also not want to go back to the USSR, thanks, I lived there wholeheartedly. Yes, we were happy in our poverty, which we did not suspect, because we had not seen another life. And our ideologists did their best not to show it (remember these selections for trips abroad?)
              14. DPN
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                In general, Afghans were given apartments in a queue as soon as they started a family, and for 55 rubles it was possible to sail on the ship "Mikhail Kutuzov" in 22 days from Gorky to Leningrad to Astrakhan and return to (Gorky) now Nizhny Novgorod. now she cannot even dream about it.
                And the fact that in the 90s it became fashionable to scoop everything Soviet, so it is profitable for the current capitalists.
                1. veteran66 22 October 2015 21: 07 New
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                  and for 55 rubles it was possible to swim

                  it’s possible to swim, but the problem is with the tickets ... I insisted on waiting, it was good for my mother — there were a lot of teacher teachers, although there were some problems.
              15. Private Starley 21 October 2015 20: 59 New
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                Of course, you are right in many respects, especially in that the top is always in chocolate, but just those "rulers" who came after the death of Joseph Vissarionovich, and rolled the union into a cesspool.
                But for the fact that you fought in Afghanistan, you and the people like you have the deepest bow from the younger generation, because at one time you did not allow the penetration of drugs and other evil spirits from there, for your example of fidelity to duty and homeland ...
              16. GSVG 22 October 2015 00: 58 New
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                Not a minus (in principle). But you are respected, as from another planet! (No offense) Just oooh really surprised! We ourselves are from Kyrgyzstan. Pioneer camps, boarding houses, motels, rest homes, hospitals through the union for a penny. Issyk Kul every year. Mom (early left without a father), traveled the whole Union on permits: the city of Heroes, etc. He himself served in the GSVG-ZGV, double salary, 45 days leave, etc. Ps. And the article "song of my dreams" !!! My homeland is there in the USSR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi
              17. mr.vasilievich 22 October 2015 16: 21 New
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                I have a double feeling. In the USSR, I was born and raised, I lived calmly, without oppressive anxiety about tomorrow, without fear of walking down the street at night. In the USSR he got an apartment, a plot for a summer residence, and bought a used Moskvich for an engineer’s salary. Now, from the consumer point of view, life is much better (by the way, comparing life from the consumer point of view in the USSR in those years and life, even in Ukraine, is not rightful today), but from the moral point of view, life in the USSR was much better. And the ruling class did not lie so unscrupulously and arrogantly as now. Probably would prefer to lose some consumer goods, but return to the USSR. We have different living conditions, in Russia and Ukraine, and it’s hard already to work on medicines (and I’m a little older than you) and housing and communal services, perhaps this also affects the desire to return to the past. With respect and understanding.
              18. OlegLex 22 October 2015 21: 04 New
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                I was also born and raised in the USSR, and it was written directly from me, with a few exceptions, I also learned to do everything with my own hands and think with my own head. But even in such a large country as our homeland, everyone was different. My grandmother was a housewife and did not receive a pension in the USSR at all because she was considered a dependent and neither of which she and her grandfather raised two sons (the third was but unfortunately died in childhood). And I also remember well that everything was not good in the USSR, and in Novocherkassk I was in Grozny, no, not at memorable events, I studied and served there. Everything was in the USSR, which later became the Russian Federation and before that was the Russian Empire. There was a lot of good and bad, everything was and there will be much more. This is MY Homeland and I love her as she is and I don’t need another.
              19. yehat 23 October 2015 00: 48 New
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                I was also in the village and I know how they worked on the collective farm:
                3-4 months without any strain per year
                I not only saw, but I myself got a job like weeding, haymaking
                not compare with the city where it was necessary to work 11 months a year
                add to this a very decent supply: not everywhere, but many where.
                any system has flaws, you just don’t need to bring their description to an absurdity. For example, a disabled person besides a pension, which, incidentally, had enough to live on, had a lot of things in the USSR free of charge.
                What you are saying about the deception of the elite had no comparison with what is happening now: in Moscow and the region there are now more than 4 million CEOs, not counting officials and other parasites, and this is the most profitable city. This is nonsense!

                DO NOT go too far in the description of how bad it was. Now much has definitely become worse. Only 2-3 percent who control all the money in the country got better.

                Only in the USSR could one come home from work and generally not think about problems. If at that time there were automatic washing machines and other useful things, life would be just a paradise.
              20. Sling cutter 23 October 2015 01: 13 New
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                hear, captain!))
                You are on the go just chasing for your 85 rubles. for koment, have you been promoted?
                it would be better if they raised their qualifications, you stayed ....
                tell me where you fought in afghanistan
                I’m ashamed of you .....
                about kuev troubles ... ugh ... not com il fo ...
                those are better to be silent stop
              21. Sling cutter 23 October 2015 01: 59 New
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                . I fought in Afghanistan and have never been able to get to the sanatorium

                you pulled me captain!
                from the Soul and from the Heart, I’ll tell you, after a long time, if We had an order to immediately shoot all the rear and staff "rats" taking out "Toshiba", "seiki", and so on, "officers" for pulling someone for a year three and "stars" for the database and other .. other scrap that accompanied our Glorious 40th Army, and to lead us not to distant garrisons, but directly to Moscow, then we would have demolished all your Gorbachev aphids to the very base!
                This is my story to you, and they’ll always be called the Kornilov captain of the captain, since you are not worthy of the rank of Soviet officer negative
            3. Ivan Ivanovich 21 October 2015 08: 41 New
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              And why an empire - Soviet power is enough.
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              some song
          2. Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 13: 26 New
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            Quote: nils

            And I want to return to the Soviet Union!

            Buy a lamp telly, throw the mobile and comp. Leave two channels on TV and you will be happy. Yes, and buy a Muscovite 412 wink
            1. marshes 20 October 2015 13: 33 New
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              Yes, and buy a Muscovite 412

              412, we still have sharp-nosed alive, and later ones have already rotted.
              88 g, was new from the salon, after three years the rapids began to rot.
              And here is 08,1987 steeper than Golf-2 odnogotki. In all respects. Here then it was possible to compete with the Germans in this class.
            2. Foul skeptic 20 October 2015 15: 57 New
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              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Buy a lamp telly, throw the mobile and comp. Leave two channels on TV and you will be happy. Yes, and buy a Muscovite 412


              And why do you think that the USSR in 2015 would be like that?
              1. Hleb 20 October 2015 17: 54 New
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                Yes, because those countries that have followed our path and have not gone astray today live like this. DPRK, Vietnam, Cuba.
                and China, realizing this, went the other way, but even today people there are more likely to live poorer
                1. Vivan 20 October 2015 21: 01 New
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                  Have you been to Vietnam?
                2. forwarder 20 October 2015 23: 16 New
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                  Put +, because I agree with you globally.
                  But clarifications are needed. Only the DPRK and Cuba have not come down today. But Cuba is already "getting ready for the jump." But so far it’s poor. True, exactly the same and lazy. Soon everything will return to square one.
                  As for China and Vietnam, take a trip, see how they live there. China is very wealthy and very expensive. Not everywhere, of course. But in more or less large cities it is. Yes, and statistics confirm this, the standard of living there, as in the poor countries of eastern Europe. The CIS countries are far from China.
                  In Vietnam it's easier. But it is also far from poor, although poorer than in Russia and Azerbaijan, for example. The rest until Vietnam still grow and grow.
                  Of course, there is no socialism in either China or Vietnam. Maybe there is such a name. But there is no socialism itself.
                  1. Vivan 21 October 2015 00: 16 New
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                    Let Comrade Gleb will hear the opinion of the Russians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbBnPS9pUR8
            3. I am 20 October 2015 16: 37 New
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              Do not joke. A mobile phone, a computer and a LCD display were first made in the USSR !!!!!!! Yes, in the 90s these inventions were stolen and sold over a hill. BUT INVENTED BY US !!!!! And if you advise everyone to throw something out - scatter under a palm tree, there the future American presidents are growing up!
              1. andj61 20 October 2015 16: 48 New
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                Quote: I am
                Do not joke. A mobile phone, a computer and a LCD display were first made in the USSR !!!!!!! Yes, in the 90s these inventions were stolen and sold over a hill. BUT INVENTED BY US !!!!! And if you advise everyone to throw something out - scatter under a palm tree, there the future American presidents are growing up!

                Completely agree with you. We invented the principles and fundamentals of cellular communications, but not a mobile phone at all. The computer - in a modern, and even more ancient tube and transistor form, was also not made here for the first time. A prototype of the Internet can serve as a large-scale data exchange between Moscow and Arzamas-16 - and long before the Pentagon or Zern networks. The liquid crystal screen is our development, but it was not us who brought it to mind, especially in the color version. However, for example, the success of Samsung as a corporation in the production of displays and TVs in the 90s is based on the widespread use of our brains, and cheaply - about 15 years ago this fact was well known, now they forget about it.
                And Romanov simply provokes us all and today does not look like himself. It seems that behind his computer is a teenager. bully
                1. Starley from the south 20 October 2015 23: 41 New
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                  The computer - in a modern, and even more ancient tube and transistor form, was also not made for the first time in our country.

                  As for the computer, I do not agree. The first computer was made with us, in a single copy, the theoretical foundations of computers were also invented by us, but even earlier. Such is our fate: we all come up with, and bring to the counter and take ownership of others.
                  1. occupier 222 22 October 2015 15: 03 New
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                    The main idea - "brought to the counter." I totally agree!
                  2. Sling cutter 23 October 2015 01: 22 New
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                    Starley from the south

                    to whom, Brother, are you trying to explain? request
            4. woron333444 20 October 2015 19: 31 New
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              Yesterday in Barnaul at the traffic lights stood a piston and 412. A grandfather was driving 412. From a traffic light, he made a Porsche. So it was nice.
            5. 110600122708 20 October 2015 19: 45 New
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              I would advise you to watch the movie "Brother-2", there are good statements on this subject.
            6. cuzmin.mihail2013 21 October 2015 00: 42 New
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              Moskvich-412 in good condition, it is now a rarity. Cheaper supported BMW or Volkswagen.
              About 2 channels of TV - this is a pipe dream. Pets do not understand! To the series, to whom cartoons, but I would have hockey, a good movie and news. To do this, it’s quite a tube TV.
              Recently, the mobile phone is so sick of it that you have to either “forget” it at home, or “accidentally” not charge it.
              So you are proposing sound ideas, but unfortunately, there are few like me and we can’t stop progress!
            7. EvgNik 21 October 2015 05: 58 New
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              Buy a lamp telly, throw the mobile and comp. Leave two channels on TV and you will be happy. Yes, and buy a Muscovite 412

              This is all doable. But will it appear from this in the store sausage made from natural meat, and not from toilet paper? Will medicine be available to everyone? Will factories destroyed during privatization be restored? Will it be honored to be a worker and not a manager and a bandit or a prostitute?
              Please answer these questions.
              Black humor is good, but not to the same extent.
              1. forwarder 21 October 2015 11: 46 New
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                But will it appear from this in the store sausage made from natural meat, and not from toilet paper?

                Did you eat from the special distributors? No? Well then, we don’t need to tell us about “natural meat”. Bother to read the appendices to GOSTs. This is not classified information. According to GOSTs, products were made only in special workshops for the special contingent, and everything else according to the application, there was not enough raw material for everyone. Half of those substitutes that the Soviet government fed the Soviet people are now prohibited. And yet, think about why people in the USSR lived so little and looked so bad and old.
                Quote: EvgNik
                Will medicine be available to everyone?

                And when was it available? The level of the district clinic, and the level of the Kremlin (they were not in Moscow, but they were called differently), these are 2 different worlds, I assure you.
                Quote: EvgNik
                Will factories destroyed during privatization be restored?

                Do not recover. This is unambiguous. Due to their perfect uselessness.
                Quote: EvgNik
                Will it be honorable to be a worker

                Will not be. Because in the world it is an honor to be a successful person.
                Quote: EvgNik
                not a gangster or a prostitute?

                And what, there are countries where it is an honor to be?
                Quote: EvgNik
                Please answer these questions.

                Hopefully answered.
                1. voffchik7691 22 October 2015 21: 20 New
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                  Interesting:
                  Registered Date: October 17 2015 21: 58
                  Last Visited: 22 October 2015 20: 19
                  during this time you managed to grab 3 minuses!
                  You are an interesting subject.
                  And what do you think to be successful? To grab a lam bucks and roll west?
                  And what would you successful do if there was nobody to do all the goods that you use from food to toilet paper? Would die in their success !!!
                  "They will not recover. This is unequivocal. Because of their complete uselessness."
                  And where are the goods that you use are made, not in factories?
                  Apparently by magic?
                  I would like to know how you earn your bread, our successful one!
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                    during this time you managed to grab 3 minuses!

                    So what? But I have the original epaulets. I immediately see my comments in general. No need to search. It's comfortable. Try it, you will like it too.
                    Quote: voffchik7691
                    And what would you successful do if there was nobody to do all the goods that you use from food to toilet paper? Would die in their success !!!

                    No, why so? Would hire those who do. I want to upset you, but those who you attribute these wonderful abilities to would be the first to die. Because they do not produce products. These all goods are made by such funny people who are called engineers. Those who were paid a little more in the USSR than the cleaners. And at times less than the hegemons. From this they did not want to do anything. And they didn’t. But the hegemons could not, could not. This was not their business. Talk about the end result?
                    Quote: voffchik7691
                    And where are the goods that you use are made, not in factories?

                    In such factories where the finished product has the lowest cost, taking into account its logistics. And in countries with a harsh climate, everything is bad, if only because buildings and structures need to be built capitally (this is expensive), and even most of the year they need to be heated (this is expensive the second time). Therefore, "living" in such conditions can only be what is called "local industry." And some mining, of course. In some places, even certain areas of agriculture can be cost-effective. That is, in short. Fershteyn?
                    Quote: voffchik7691
                    I would like to know how you earn your bread, our successful one!

                    By labor. Unfortunately, I have to work hard. Although I want to roll on the couch and full belly scratch. Periodically in a heterosexual company. Like 95% of the world's population, such statistics. Only I write to you honestly, and many others will lie from three boxes. Especially "ideologically correct."
            8. dvg79 21 October 2015 12: 54 New
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              And why did you get the idea that in the USSR 2015 all this would not have happened? Let it be without melkosoft and STS, but I would feel good without them.
            9. ingener1966 21 October 2015 13: 28 New
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              When I got very hot (they didn’t pay my salary for 8 months in the 90s), so my Moskvich 2140 only saved me and my family hi And as for the tube TV, you turned down; I assembled my first computer in 1989-90. Everything would be fine if it weren't for Hump ... with the company. But in the USSR they want not as a retro, but as a system of social justice ... hi
            10. Horn 21 October 2015 13: 55 New
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              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: nils

              And I want to return to the Soviet Union!

              Buy a lamp telly, throw the mobile and comp. Leave two channels on TV and you will be happy. Yes, and buy a Muscovite 412 wink

              Well, if all the factories, factories, collective farms, state farms work, there is a firm confidence in the future, you do not need to take a loan to buy coal for the winter (advertising of a bank) ... I agree on 2 channels and the lack of a mobile phone (why, by the way , you refuse the USSR in development?)
            11. ZAV69 21 October 2015 22: 30 New
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              The tube black-and-white telly worked with his grandfather for about 15 or 20 years, probably without a single autopsy and showed from a nail instead of an antenna. Will modern live so much?
              Hand tools made in the USSR are eternal. Automatic telephone exchanges of 1974 of release are still operating in the villages; next year they will change them. And then what will they change so much will live?
          3. Axon 20 October 2015 19: 11 New
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            But I don’t want to, I perfectly realized myself with the union of peoples, and in modern times,
            At 27 he was already a deputy, according to the technology of a serious explosive production, they did not work there according to the blat.
            So now, out of the blue, I gathered a candle factory, but not one, on which up to 700 people worked the best of times.
            So it’s not a matter of time but of knowledge and the ability to apply them.
            1. fennekRUS 20 October 2015 21: 38 New
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              But I don’t want to, I realized myself perfectly with the union of peoples

              Yes, that's right, of course. That's just a small difference, for the child then there were fewer dangers. Bukharikov and other parasites drove the section. Torchki and loonies were either closed in Durkee or were hiding in such a way that they could not be found with dogs.
          4. Jinal 20 October 2015 22: 33 New
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            And I want it too. I would like to return that feeling of confidence in tomorrow.
          5. Vivan 21 October 2015 00: 37 New
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            And I want to return to the Soviet Union - the country of my youth, whose citizens were treated as a brother, a son, friend and comrade to me (a foreigner). Unlimited thanks to the Soviet people for their humanity!
        2. vladimirZ 20 October 2015 06: 44 New
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          "Times do not choose. They live and die!"

          But this does not mean that we must put up with the current dominance of predatory oligarchic capitalism, with the robbery of our people and state.
          You need to be politically active, to defend your rights, the rights of the future of your children and grandchildren, the future, I hope, socially just Russia. And there simply will not be another, they will plunder and plunder for the sake of the USA and the West, the "golden billion" in which Russia has no place.
          1. yushch 20 October 2015 07: 33 New
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            I don’t agree about the lost generation (I was also born and studied in the Union) and this can be seen in a simple example - if the first and second Chechen companies were pulled up by those who grew up in the Union, then the “lost generation” made the war of three eights. As for the rest, I agree with the author all 100%.
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          As for reading, it’s exactly from me, the only difference is that my mother worked in the library, so there was something to read to me :-)

          My aunt, the kingdom of heaven, had a room. Of the furniture in this room there was a table, a chair and huge open cabinets full of books full of perimeter, to the ceiling. I can’t even imagine where she took all this, because there was a shortage of books.
          She was a very well-read and intelligent person. Now, young people under the gunshot can not be forced to take a book.
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            My aunt, the kingdom of heaven, had a room. Of the furniture in this room there was a table, a chair and huge open cabinets full of books full of perimeter, to the ceiling.

            But now:
            - Come to visit me.
            - Do you have Wi-Fi? laughing

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              CLASS!
              He remembered his childhood, he was already sad).
            2. Kpox 22 October 2015 07: 55 New
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              Yes, there. This is already considered a must. And when you say that there is no Wi-Fi, they look at you as insane as if you have no toilet in your apartment.
        4. Fitter65 20 October 2015 15: 57 New
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          As for reading, it’s exactly from me, the only difference is that my mother worked in the library, so there was something to read to me :-)

          And I, my sister, was a librarian in the school library. And yet, I sin very much, I repent, I stole books from libraries who stole books. I still like to read BOOKS, simple paper BOOKS. It’s not all in a row, sometimes I’ve been looking at the book for half an hour, does it make sense to buy it? ..
          1. occupier 222 22 October 2015 15: 21 New
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            And we ran from the lessons to the library (honestly).
        5. Lenin 20 October 2015 17: 46 New
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          I agree, and there was a turn for some books, you still can’t read it. He escaped only in the summer with his grandmother, drove on a bike to the central estate of the state farm for 5 km, everything could be read there without waiting in line, not like in the city. fellow
        6. Starley from the south 20 October 2015 23: 12 New
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          Yes, from each person born in the USSR, the author took something, we had a lot in common then, most importantly, the perception was similar. I also read a lot in my early childhood, but only fairy tales. Now I am sure that I read all the fairy tales that could then be found. And then, resting in the pioneer camps, he told scary stories to his peers at night (for some reason, everyone looked at night, they loved to listen to scary stories). And when I didn’t read fairy tales, I played football, because the weather of 9 months of the year allowed this ... You read the article and remember your childhood.
        7. Neighbor 21 October 2015 07: 08 New
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          Similarly!
        8. bornikrub 21 October 2015 09: 48 New
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          As a child, he also drove the Soviet greats.
          Now, alas, the Chinese GT.
        9. Private Starley 21 October 2015 11: 11 New
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          Yes, there wasn’t something to read, but to remember, everyone who was born at that time as a carbon copy, circles and sections were free or at a symbolic price then, and as for literature in general, it was one-on-one, with the goal of acquiring a BOOK, not how in the 90s to collect hand over bottles in order to buy a new bubble, although I also handed over bottles))) then to buy, resistors, transistors, relays and something else in detail))) and a radio transmitter from matchboxes from Young Technician, and the boat, and the circuit and the plane and, and, and all not to mention and not to list. And here is the second part, like a nightmare, with these managers, they’ll be lost! Although managers are also needed, and again not managers, but real managers who are capable of encouraging people to such feats that mom don’t grieve, for the sake of the common good, and not her own pocket, this is probably the whole reason ... something like that .. .
        10. gav6757 21 October 2015 12: 21 New
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          Damn, I read and tears welling up ...
          I really want to go back to the USSR, where everything was clear, where people belonged to each other, regardless of welfare!
          Thanks to the author, I was at home !!!
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            specially for you dear Comrade! I will make my own repost:
            Recently, I often regret that I didn’t have a chance to be born in the 1920s, in order to personally become a contemporary of those great people who created the people's republic with blood and sweat.
            Rise to the attack: “For Homeland”, and then either perish, clearly knowing why, or survive, and after the victory take off the country, live modestly, but humanly, sincerely be friends, believe in a bright future and spare nothing for it build ....
            But it did not happen ...
            Probably the worst thing for my generation was to live on a break, at the very edge of the transition from Light to Darkness, half life there and half life here.
            Will there be enough for us that inner charge of the Great Victories that nourished Us in order to withstand the current obscurantism and Darkness that has seized our Motherland?
            Is there enough common sense to figure out what is “white” and what is “black”?
            Indeed, it is Our generation that is the extreme that forced the USSR, We are the last “guardians” of its ideals, Our last line, there is nowhere to go “behind Moscow”, and before Us the enemy is cunning, treacherous, deceitful, greedy and merciless and with it only unbridled Darkness.
            And if we ourselves do not give ourselves order No. 227, then there will be nobody else to give it!
            Either we are rebuilding the Soviet country, having pushed off from the last frontier, or a shameful slow extinction.
            And here already everyone decides for himself.

            Threat. if anyone is interested, I walked the paths "across the river" ...
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        And I had a great “Salute” Yes, it was hard in the 80s, these coupons stood in line for several hours. But it was still better than now. In our childhood, in the courtyard with the boys we played football, hockey, tied a purse to a rope (scoffed at greedy citizens, a massive digging of potatoes (to help collective farms) And now children have tablets, the Internet, dolls, monsters, who has better phone, etc. I agree with the author completely.
        1. SRC P-15 20 October 2015 08: 31 New
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          Bicycles were bought as they grew up: “Butterfly”, “Schoolboy”, “Salute”.

          The author apparently forgot that there was still a bigger bike “Schoolboy" - "Eaglet".
          As a child, I lived in the countryside and for us it was a holiday to work on the local collective farm, during the summer holidays, on a horse rake. With the money we earned, we bought a bicycle. Can not convey in words the pride that I experienced when buying this bike! - Earned with your own hands! For some, this will seem strange, but those who spent their childhood in the 60s will understand me.
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            Quote: SRC P-15
            The author apparently forgot that there was still a bigger bike “Schoolboy" - "Eaglet". As a child, I lived in the countryside and for us it was a holiday to work at the local collective farm, during the summer holidays, on a horse rake.

            In our city, the first great one was the 3-wheeled Veterok, which later, when you got used to it, could be converted into two wheels. Well, with two wheels, the knees certainly became tattered green.


            During the summer holidays, on a horse rake by an aunt in the village, he robbed on a collective farm plot, then on a dedicated cow. Class! good The horse was - Forest nickname, just let go of the reins, he strives not to work, and to bury in the birch tree, to chew in the shade of leaves.
            Yes, yes, we had the 1st K in our school! Well, I mean that there were a lot of children, very much.

            There were few schools. In our nearest district there were only three. I entered the 1st A, but it seemed like the 1st Zh or also before K. However, a year later a new school was built, away from home, but there was no need to cross the roadway. They transferred there, there are already five classes succeeded. Four years later, another school was built very close, across the road, but two yards from the house and from the window can be seen. I went there.
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              there was a 3-wheeled Veterok

              And required attribute laughing family key.
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                And a bicycle kit for 40 cents!
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                Quote: WUA 518
                And required attribute laughing family key.

                So he hangs in the "wallet" under the saddle. And the lock at the "wallet" is so cool.
                Quote: T-73
                And a bicycle kit for 40 cents!

                Still preserved on the shelf.
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                  So he hangs in the "wallet" under the saddle

                  He just called us not a "wallet", but a "pouch".
                  And one more thing: did someone ride, as a child, on an adult bicycle, "under the frame"? - It is something! - The wheel is higher than the head, the body of the "cyclist" is curved to the side! And how they drove! Do not steal! The current young generation does not imagine that it is possible to ride a bicycle.
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                    And I had a great "Salute" D

                    Quote: SRC P-15
                    The author apparently forgot that there was still a bigger bike “Schoolboy" - "Eaglet".

                    Quote: T-73
                    And a bicycle kit for 40 cents!

                    Quote: SRC P-15
                    Has anyone rode, as a kid, on an adult bike, "under the frame"?

                    Guys, good! A lump in my throat!
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                  Still preserved on the shelf.

                  So I took my picture))) I won’t say for completeness, but I keep what is.
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              win 20 October 2015 13: 15 New
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              1970-80 years. KamAZ - Komsomol-youth building. The average age of the population of Naberezhnye Chelny is 25 years. Some schools had 35 the first classes, letters for classes were not enough ... Schools and kindergartens were built like mushrooms and still not enough. Work was in full swing, fun overflowed over the edge ...
            4. Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 13: 28 New
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              In our city, the first great was the 3-wheeled Veterok,

              This great one was called a thunderstorm; they stole it from me am It's my great angry
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                gjv 20 October 2015 13: 51 New
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                they stole it from me

                A brand new orange Kama was stolen from me. After that, good people drove the black Urals. And his father soon bought a green Ural with white wings.
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                  I also had a "Ural" green and with white wings. Until they got to the saddle, they rode on the pedals and almost every hole was an abrasion on the knees and elbows, or bruised in the groin. But even there was no thought, to stop skating, they disappeared from morning to evening on the street, football, torn shoes, so flew from her mother. In the library, all books about the Indians were read to the holes. In our village there were not enough places both in kindergarten and in school, but they didn’t extort bribes from anyone for a place in kindergarten, there were about 50 children in our group, and now? And be sure to provide sponsorship. Although the garden is not filled and a third of the period of my childhood. We guys slowed down the trucks that drove to our quarry and rode for days with unfamiliar uncles, and they fed us their dinners. And now you let your child go with a stranger uncle? We have lost a lot in human relations over the years. I was an october, a pioneer, and proud of it !!!!
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                    I also had a "Ural" green

                    It was also, only the wings were chrome) Dug out in the barn, as I remember. How did he get there - xs. And he was not alone there. I set the front sprocket from the "adult" of some old one, a little larger diameter, as I recall. The chain lengthened, 2 locks stood). A little uncomfortable, but it was worth it - the beast was an apparatus. And concrete. Frames used to crack, then to a construction site - welders helped for 5 seconds. Yes...
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                      With chrome wings, if my memory serves me, there was a "stork" different from a "Ural" gear ratio, and in the "Ural" there was no keeping up with it. Who had the "stork", now it’s probably like an iPhone6. Not many parents could afford to buy his child. The price tag was almost twice as different from the “Ural”. And it was also chic if you had a camera on a wheel with automobile nipples and two-sided reflectors .... oh childhood ... it is clear that we did not know the problems of adults in providing us, children. Nevertheless, he did not swell from hunger and did not collect food in the garbage, although his mother pulled three of them, there were always eggs, kefir in the refrigerator, remember in bottles with a green foil lid? Milk, Ostankino sausage disappeared in the refrigerator. I condensed the bottling bought in the quarry canteen, as I remember now, for 1r43k for a three-liter can, which was successfully broken right after, and the aunt who poured it, felt sorry for me and she found the can and poured me another one. And how I lost money on the bus and people collected 45 kopecks for me to get home.
                2. Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 15: 14 New
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                  I was stolen a folding brand new orange Kama

                  And I had Kama, but she got defective, then they bought the type of the Urals, but from the framework of a girl’s, but good smile
                  PS A Thunderstorm return me angry Will not forgive
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                    gjv 20 October 2015 15: 29 New
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                    Give me the storm back

                    Now love the storm in early May ... Just wait.
                    Now there are only five foreign storms, keep ...


                    Himself a friend recently gave a mountain bike ride, and he was stolen. Forgiven, however.
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                      Himself a friend recently gave a mountain bike n

                      You cannot ride without wings in the rain, all the dirt will be on you.
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                        gjv 20 October 2015 16: 08 New
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                        You cannot ride without wings in the rain, all the dirt will be on you.

                        Wings bought, trimmed. Anyway, it flew. It’s good that the shower functions and the washing machine. Still, it was better to ride like that.

                        As for me, more fun than that.
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                    Then they bought a type of Urals, but from the framework of a girl’s, but good-looking

                    "Gum"

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                      "Gum"

                      Yes, I had such ones, only the more faded one is closer to the blue one. And heaped up with a bullied kral laughing
                3. g1v2 20 October 2015 15: 40 New
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                  Damn, I also had kama first, and then green urals. We with the guys reeled up a hundred kilometers a day in the summer. On the kama with small wheels it wasn’t very good, but in the Urals it was the most. FIRST, THE TRUTH BEFORE THE PEDALS BASED IT BETTER, BUT BECAUSE THE GROWTH AND ROUTES BECAME LONGER. Moreover, it was often the case that just with the boys they left for neighboring Tatarstan in the morning on the greats, and in the evening they arrived. 12 years for the boys - for 100 km in Kazan the Veliky left without demand and no one considered this something special. We arrived late in the evening and no one even threw tantrums where we were. Nostalgia, damn it.
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              My is great. And if you turn it over, you could spin the wheel, imagine that it’s a propeller and shout “burn a tambourine!”
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              Our "Breeze" fell apart when the three of us rolled on it with a knoll with a breeze. Then there was the “Eaglet”, which was stolen in the park, while I was shooting at a shooting range with a friend.
          2. Wheel 20 October 2015 16: 18 New
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            The author apparently forgot that there was still a bigger bike “Schoolboy" - "Eaglet".

            Eaglet and Salute - bicycles of the same class, teenagers, the first produced in Lithuania, the second in Arzamas.
            Accordingly, in the west of the USSR it was rarely possible to meet Salute, and in the east it was Orlyonok.
          3. Starley from the south 20 October 2015 23: 48 New
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            there was a bigger bike "Schoolboy" - "Eaglet".

            And we guys loved to argue about how best to ride the Urals, a larger bike Eaglet, above the frame or under the frame ... After all, if you sit on the seat, your legs would not reach the pedals.
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            SRC P-15

            and now for what you feel pride, Worker ???
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          I would like to clarify: AT THE END of the 80s, specifically in Uzbekistan in 89. And who then taxied?
      3. velikoros-xnumx 20 October 2015 09: 19 New
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        It feels like the author has been spying on me all my life and writing off this article from me, the only inaccuracy is that the first bike was not “Butterfly”, but “Little”

        And I have a "little humpbacked horse", then "kama", then "sura".
        My mother still has a ticket to the book lovers' society, otherwise it was impossible to buy books. At school in grades 9-10, a 3-hour labor lesson at the Belinskselmash plant, after finishing school, crusts of a turner of the 2,3th category, plus they paid at least small but still money for these visits. It came to understand how money is given, who liked to work there - after school they went to the factory, who didn’t, and thought they deserved more — they went on to study further, in techies and institutes. It really helped to decide and find their place in life.
      4. NordUral 20 October 2015 09: 57 New
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        You are not alone in the sensations.
      5. Vovan 73 20 October 2015 11: 57 New
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        The first was a “Levushka” with such wheels with dots. And the rest ... neither diminish nor add. And it pleases me that something begins to reach young growth. The daughter, the eldest, she told me 18 years old somehow said: “Dad, but people lived better in the USSR than now” ....
      6. Robinzon57 20 October 2015 17: 05 New
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        Of course, this is the life of the majority of our generation, which we stupidly took in the 90s, believing that "to each according to his ability" is about us. But no one really knew what capitalism was, and when they came across it real, it was too late to retreat — Chubais made a fuss. And here is the question from the article:
        Is it possible to remove financial dominance from today's life? And if so, what should I replace it with? How to make so that millions of people wake up from the hassle of financial enchantment and again become people?
        For the last 20 years I have been thinking that the need to return to “modernized” socialism is obvious to everyone, but apparently was mistaken. I will try to supplement the article on the other hand.
        Capitalism implies exponential growth in resource consumption in a society of energy, raw materials, human labor and maximization of profits. This leads to “disposable” things, over-expenditure of resources, neglect of “spent” human capital.
        Today 7,2 million people live on Earth, and every year there are more. The question, given the limited resources, is how we will live after a while. That's where the talk of the golden billion comes from. Capitalism proposes to resolve the issue CARDINALLY!
        But only the planned economy of socialism can find a way out. Therefore, if we do not want to be the "last generation" of earthlings, we will have to return to socialism, and think less about rags. And everything else will follow. hi
      7. Lenin 20 October 2015 17: 41 New
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        Well, not only with you, there was still a big "dodysh" or "teddy bear" then they made homemade mokiki with D-6. Thanks to Stalker for the article, I would have given everything to bring back those people with whom they were engaged in creative activities at the weekend and shared interesting and global thoughts ... laughing hi
      8. Altona 20 October 2015 20: 11 New
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        Quote: Rostovchanin
        It feels like the author has been spying on me all my life and writing off this article from me,

        -------------------------
        Yes, we all lived like that ... All in one ... Only in the USSR was there a "monetization" of human capital, not paper money ... That is, developed public consumption funds and the social sphere, financed by the state ... Then the state was captured rogues from party, Komsomol, trade union and KGB offices abroad (the KGB conducted extensive commercial activities abroad for cover), people were infected with thingism, blat and "necessary connections" ... We must again return the slogan "all for the good of man" and then financial the component will become empty and unnecessary ... And now people are not surprised at someone’s wealth, it’s clear where it comes from ...
      9. LeftPers 21 October 2015 07: 11 New
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        I’ll join you, my life also turned out to be traced in this article, tracing paper and more.
        Of course, there was enough dirt even then, but on the whole, people were kinder, we had an inner world. There was social justice and there was no fear of the future.
      10. Ivan Ivanovich 21 October 2015 08: 23 New
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        There is one. So why not make it louder?
      11. spiriolla-45 21 October 2015 14: 39 New
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        And I had the first scooter, everything else is like a carbon copy, only there were not so many classes. It sometimes seems to me that liberals are an order of magnitude worse than the Nazis. The Nazis burned people in the ovens, and the liberals destroy the soul in living people.
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          And how many people have gone through perestroika through this, that’s where the hidden genocide of their own people is. As I recall, how many high-class working specialists were at the factories, the same machinists and turners. How their soul ached for how their plants were ruining. And many, after all, during the war, the youngsters got up to the machine tools and rebuilt these plants with their own hands. I am ashamed in front of them.
          1. voffchik7691 22 October 2015 21: 50 New
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            The bourgeois have a technique for calculating such losses. So, according to their calculations on the conscience of ebn and his gang, 11 million people! This is without any war! And they still call Stalin bloody!
      12. Company 21 October 2015 16: 54 New
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        And I have a "Breeze" fellow
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        as if deducted from me smile
        all the difference - the author did not become an electronics engineer, but I became a professional ...
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      You know, I would give everything for the opportunity to return to childhood, and live it again, only consciously: realizing that I, as a six-year-old kid, can disappear all day on the street with friends all day until late at night,

      I agree to all 100%

      at 6-7 years of age I went out for a walk without parents and the whole area was mine)) and even the forest across the road where I ran away with friends to a large sand pit.
      The yard, where in the evenings grandfathers gathered - veterans and chopped into chess or dominoes. But the drunk - lying under the bushes or the homeless - WAS NOT !! The yard was full of life, and now? 7-8 years old child and everything, sits at the computer and you can’t even force him out into the street already ..
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        at 6-7 years of age I went out for a walk without parents and the whole area was mine)) ... The yard was full of life

        Communication, friendship, games and fights, hugs and kisses with girls, hiding behind the access door. And the forest and the pit, a military airfield, where they climbed planes until they notice and drive away. Jet airplanes, the most modern fighters and bombers. And a steam locomotive in tanks attracted fuel to the airfield. They put all kinds of nonsense on the rails - flatten - not flatten.
        And in the stairwell there were rugs in front of the apartments, under half the key to the apartment lay, and if not, then behind the platband. Children came from school, from a walk or neighbors to walk a dog, feed fish, parrots ... And there were no robberies!
      3. liuk gud 20 October 2015 09: 43 New
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        And we had concerts. The adults made a scene for us. And I also remember how after winter everyone went out on a clean-up day and cleaned the yard. Moreover, this was not done by order.
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          And we had concerts.

          Concerts, performances played out. Guitar songs on the bench at the entrance until late at night, until someone could not stand it: "Tomorrow at work, have a conscience!"
      4. liuk gud 20 October 2015 09: 43 New
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        And we had concerts. The adults made a scene for us. And I also remember how after winter everyone went out on a clean-up day and cleaned the yard. Moreover, this was not done by order.
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        And now come on ***** and Gaster around.
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          I remember that the first people who came after Leninakan appeared and went, they marveled at them like monkeys in a zoo.
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        To expel, then expel, only go afterwards and herd. There are all kinds of freaks.
    3. Starover_Z 20 October 2015 08: 20 New
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      individuals buying cars for the price of three apartments?

      In recent years, looking at continuous traffic jams on the roads, I constantly remember the footage from the film "New Adventures of Vrungel." How they were driven in a car, talking about the city outside the window, and there were only sides of cars and could!
      But this was not in the USSR!
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        But this was not in the USSR!

        Yes, in our courtyard, there were six cars for 8 entrances in a five-story building. In winter, if someone got stuck, they pushed the whole kids out, the owners had no problems.
    4. Max_Bauder 20 October 2015 08: 44 New
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      Maybe not the topic guys, but the news.

      The Central Bank of Russia purchased US government bonds (read, supported their economy, credited their growing debt) in the amount of half the budget of the Russian Federation.
      sad

      more details on the link. http://politobzor.net/show-68033-cb-vlozhil-v-gosobligacii-ssha-polovinu-byudzhe
      ta-rossii.html

      And this is against the background of the fact that everyone is slowly getting rid of the dollar.

      Nikolai Starikov was right, the Central Bank is an American leech on the Russian back, until we throw it off and grow. It is necessary to change, or rather make an amendment to the Constitution of the country, according to which the state would have the right to regulate the activities of the Central Bank, to prohibit it if it causes enormous damage to the economy, and in such cold war years, when sanctions are around.
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        External debt is greater than the gold reserves of the Central Bank. What then to pay if you do not buy currency?
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        And then: half of the RF budget is almost $ 300 billion. Where will the Central Bank get so many extra dollars? And do you suggest after this to believe in such propaganda nonsense?
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      4. ermak.sidorov 20 October 2015 15: 19 New
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        I also read about this ... foolishness and somehow I can’t find any logical arguments - well, I would buy gold, diamonds, and at least tractors or machine tools (even from the Americans) - at least some good, but I bought paper for expensive ....

        One can really argue - for machines with tractors "profitability is not the same" ... the question is "profitability" to whom?
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          One can really argue - for machines with tractors "profitability is not the same" ... the question is "profitability" to whom?

          To whom? Yes, Putin's entourage and himself.
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        Central Bank of Russia Purchases US Government Bonds

        Well, what's the tragedy? It is not necessary to consider that only traitors and a conspiracy are weaving around. The article does not say a word about the duration of the bonds (annual, three-year, or any other) nor about%. Whether we like it or not, but US government bonds are fairly reliable and liquid. The key word is liquid. Now, after all, by and large it’s not up to the broth. We must at least save it. And it is precisely some surplus that is invested so that they do not lie dead weight. Even if it is 1-2% per annum. The gold market is not large, the offer is limited. All have already divided everything in the short term. And do not consider the Central Bank idiots. We always take the face value, even reselling it. Well, do not carry money in bags.
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          Whether we like it or not, but US government bonds are fairly reliable and liquid. The key word is liquid. Now, after all, by and large it’s not up to the broth. We must at least save it. And it is precisely some surplus that is invested so that they do not lie dead weight.

          Damn, but you can’t invest these "some surplus" in the construction of factories? Something seems to me that investing in plants will be more profitable than investing in pieces of paper.
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            Damn, but you can’t invest these "some surplus" in the construction of factories?

            it is possible, but the plant needs personnel, markets, suppliers ... or build a plant for the sake of the plant? What plants are already being built, but it is not so easy to squeeze into the market, otherwise you can later trade in color from new machines, and rent buildings to traders, because there’s nothing to eat (they passed in the 90s)
    5. NordUral 20 October 2015 09: 56 New
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      But you can choose how to live in these times, so that later you do not regret what was lost. What are we doing now. After all, a whole generation has been lost for the country, and even that country has been lost.
      1. serohim 20 October 2015 18: 38 New
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        Add.
        Not only a generation has been lost, but also a conscience and a memory.
        And the USSR was the most caring country for its people. Not an ideal, but very close. The country that built hospitals, schools, houses. She taught, fed her people. Where you haven’t been taxed in three skins and you didn’t think about anything to make you go salaries.
        And about the generation, it’s really crap.
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          And the USSR was the most caring country for its people.
          If you mean a people who took care of themselves, their country, was friendly, inventive, poor and happy, then I agree; but if you mean the power of the USSR, then, I’m sorry, this is nonsense. As an author, a stalker could have forgotten the fact that citizens, CHILDREN were taken to the streets of Pripyat, after the Chernobyl disaster, on a May Day demonstration, with balloons flags, slogans, they say everything is fine with look at us ... Everyone, having caught radiation, subsequently died of radiation sickness. Imagine, the children go rejoice and do not understand anything, nothing is horrible !!! And how many victims of the Prohibition were the wipers and colognes drank. What they proved - What the people in the USSR, it’s a consumable that human rights are not about us, we have a lot of them (people). Now, in principle, we haven’t gone very far if you are not a major, an oligarch, or a Chubais put together. In general, I also regret those times, but only because it was a period of carefree school age. Article minus, the above facts do not allow to put a plus.
          1. forwarder 21 October 2015 14: 17 New
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            drank wipers and colognes.

            Yes, what they drank there! People choked on the lines, bought in a trihoroda and ate Soviet sausage !!! The one that, according to these storytellers, is "not made of toilet paper."
            Here, read what it consisted of in accordance with GOST 23670-79 from 1979 as amended in 1980. "70% of beef of the second grade, 20% of bold pork and 10% of side fat".
            But sausage according to GOST was made ONLY for the special contingent. There was not enough raw material for everyone, so the rest of the sausage was made according to the Appendices to these GOSTs. What was the sausage made of according to the Applications? From the “protein stabilizer, mass of beef or pork meat, or lamb, food plasma (serum) of blood, starch or wheat flour”. Those. a mixture of bone meal, wood glue, plasma, starch and boiled urinary bladders was perfectly legitimate in sausage.
            And half of the preservatives, stabilizers and dyes used then are generally prohibited for use today.
        2. Valentine 22 October 2015 11: 19 New
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          Sad at that time, of course, remained, but the fact that in the USSR they built schools, kindergartens, hospitals, housing for our money with you, for some reason few know. We got
          in monetary terms, only 3-7% of the earned in production, the rest went to the same construction, to
          state employees, for healthcare, etc. With the same money
          our expenses for health improvement in pioneer camps and sanatoriums, stay in kindergartens and schools, training in technical schools and institutes were compensated
          , from the same money all kinds of social services were paid. allowances and pensions. So in the USSR we were not charged 13%
          income tax, and as it were, all 90%. So everything that was built in the USSR was built with our money, and not at the expense of the state.
          1. occupier 222 22 October 2015 15: 52 New
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            Who cares? Maybe the patient got worse from where the money came from?
    6. joui27 21 October 2015 16: 18 New
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      I partially agree with the Author, but I remember that not everyone had a bicycle properly. If the yard was large in weight, it was already sold out. I don’t know, I would like to pay 80 rubles for a man’s suit, and get 100 ??? Much in the USSR was not right, as in capitalism. I especially don’t like that in capitalism people became hisists and patriotism was perceived as a name-calling. We must not forget that the old generation always perceives the new as something bad (like degradation). I am sure that in your childhood you would have "killed" for a personal computer and would rather have played Dendik than sat on a bench in a kindergarten for lack of any other choice. Therefore, it’s not right to unambiguously denigrate the new and praise the old .... both there and there are good and bad .... I would not want to go back to the USSR, but I do not like capitalism as it is. That would take all the good and create a new system. I apologize for the errors, because I am writing from Germany and do not have a Russian keyboard :)
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        I don’t know, I would like to pay 80 rubles for a man’s suit, and get 100

        No, a little bit wrong. I don’t know what kind of costume it is. But I went to work boiling a suit of the local factory "Krivorukaya seamstress" for 200 rubles. Strange colors. Now it would be called "vintage." There were no others, but I had to go to work. And the salary was 150 rubles. dirty.
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        If the yard was large in weight, it was already sold out.

        Serious sports great cost under 100 rubles. But very serious, for 100 rubles. The young engineer at the plant received 110-120 rubles. Less income, minus childlessness. Yes, and contributions had to be paid. Komsomol and in all sorts of "voluntary funds."
        1. occupier 222 22 October 2015 16: 07 New
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          "Dirty" in the USSR was not! Congratulations, you are lying!
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            "Dirty" in the USSR was not! Congratulations, you are lying!

            You, boy, first study what and what was called in the USSR, and then write your "remarks".
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        !!! Errors, to say the least, but generally agree. Do not “praise” the old, do not scold the new, do not forget the BEST old, and build on this the BEST new.
    7. joui27 21 October 2015 16: 20 New
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      I partially agree with the Author, but I remember that not everyone had a bicycle properly. If the yard was large in weight, it was already sold out. I don’t know, I would like to pay 80 rubles for a man’s suit, and get 100 ??? Much in the USSR was not right, as in capitalism. I especially don’t like that in capitalism people became hisists and patriotism was perceived as a name-calling. We must not forget that the old generation always perceives the new as something bad (like degradation). I am sure that in your childhood you would have "killed" for a personal computer and would rather have played Dendik than sat on a bench in a kindergarten for lack of any other choice. Therefore, it’s not right to unambiguously denigrate the new and praise the old .... both there and there are good and bad .... I would not want to go back to the USSR, but I do not like capitalism as it is. That would take all the good and create a new system. I apologize for the errors, because I am writing from Germany and do not have a Russian keyboard :)
  2. EvgNik 20 October 2015 06: 08 New
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    I agree 100%! I was born under Stalin, I remember when he died. I learned to read at 5 years old and read everything that could be. How many libraries in his life have passed, and not on top, but on the storerooms. I do not know people born in the USSR who would not dream of returning to their former country. Of course, not everything was smooth, always something was missing, but I lived my best years in the USSR!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 20 October 2015 06: 15 New
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      Quote: EvgNik
      I was born under Stalin,

      and I’m already under Khrushchev ... but then everything looks alike! hi
    2. gunya 20 October 2015 06: 28 New
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      EvgNik SU

      I agree 100%! I was born under Stalin, I remember when he died. I learned to read at 5 years old and read everything that could be. How many libraries in his life have passed, and not on top, but on the storerooms. I do not know people born in the USSR who would not dream of returning to their former country. Of course, not everything was smooth, always something was missing, but I lived my best years in the USSR!

      The USSR went a new way, where the priority was given to caring for a person, but both the difficulties of the unknown path and the "help" of the "capitalist" friends "adding difficulties led to the fact that the plan did not always work out.
      After Stalin's death, the initiative passed into the hands of "those who want to take a break from the stress of the previous path, which led to a well-known result.
      Instead of the rule “First think of the Homeland”, “think of your beloved” prevailed, which led to the collapse and real events in the country.
      1. NordUral 20 October 2015 10: 01 New
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        that is, after Stalin half-wits and sybarites came, and then their renegade children merged everything.
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          after Stalin, idiots and sybarites came, and then their renegade children drained everything

          For example: just compare Golikov (Arkady Gaidar) and his grandson Yegor Gaidar ...
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            For example: just compare Golikov (Arkady Gaidar) and his grandson Yegor Gaidar ...

            In the mid-1920s, Arkady married a 17-year-old Komsomol member from Perm Leah Lazarevna Solomyanskaya, this was his second marriage. In 1926, their son Timur was born in Arkhangelsk. And Egorka (Timurovich) and Mashka Egorovna were given a “worthy” education in the best national traditions. Here, somehow it turns out. As Woland said, it is a question of blood.
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            Quote: Siegen
            For example: just compare Golikov (Arkady Gaidar) and his grandson Yegor Gaidar ...

            ----------------------
            Yegor Gaidar is not the grandson of Arkady Gaidar, so as not to suspect something bad, in this case anti-Semitism, read the Internet about his family, his son Timur and all that ...
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              Egor Gaidar is not the grandson of Arkady Gaidar

              Wikipedia says that Yegor is the son of Timur Gaidar.
              And the adopted son is Nikita
          3. veteran66 21 October 2015 15: 42 New
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            just compare Golikova (Arkady Gaidar)

            are you judging by Soviet books about him? On one of the discussion threads, VO wrote about him from the places where he planted the Soviets, he had his hands to his elbow in blood. And his offspring, too, was still vampire, only the ancestor himself physically ruined people, and the offspring - with reforms. An apple is not far from an apple tree ....
    3. Karabanov 20 October 2015 09: 36 New
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      I do not know people born in the USSR who would not dream of returning to their former country.

      Come on, you ... They are full. Most of those who are now at the feeding trough would never agree to return to the USSR.
      Everything has long been plundered and drank. Well, and who of them is willing to voluntarily part with their palaces, yachts, bank accounts? For them it is like death.
      And our president happily echoes them - there will be no revision of privatization! So I am skeptical about Putin’s statement about his regret over the collapse of the USSR.
      I think the system will not change, at least I do not see any prospects for this. And all because she will not be allowed to do this. And these are the people who, by the way, were mostly born and raised in the USSR.
      1. 16112014nk 20 October 2015 15: 51 New
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        Well, for example, there is such a citizen Medvedev. He has a Soviet allergy to everything, although he was born and lived a considerable part of his life in the USSR. Here is one of his pearls: "We got rid of the inefficient Soviet economy, and built a large Western-style economy." It's like a fly sitting on a bull, saying: "We plowed." And such Medvedevs, Shuvalovs, Dvorkovichs, Chubais, Millers, Yakunins, Sechins, in the Kremlin, the State Duma and the Federation Council, as in Brazil, wild monkeys. And it was their handiwork — the corrupt, semi-criminal, anti-people’s domestic policy in Russia!
      2. veteran66 21 October 2015 15: 44 New
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        They are full. Most of those who are now at the feeding trough would never agree to return to the USSR.

        I am a military pensioner, not with a feeder and without a yacht, but I don’t want to in the USSR.
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      I lived my best years in the USSR!

      I now “live” many times in the USSR.
      I like to read science fiction about fellow travelers. There are a lot of books. Alternative history, for example: http://althistory.ho.ua/uss2.shtml
  3. iv-nord 20 October 2015 06: 11 New
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    Yes. There is a question, but I don’t know what to answer. I myself am from the USSR.
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    Teach children what you were accustomed to as a child (meaning good), and, if possible, protect from evil influence. In short, bring up children, grow from them people, not vegetables, and learn from them. And so that more children, and not one or two. Che is left to do something by and large 7.
  5. Mera joota 20 October 2015 06: 13 New
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    The author is nostalgic for his childhood. There were many similar articles in the 80s, they say the youth (which the author belonged to at that time) is not so frivolous, absolutely does not want to build communism, live in Lenin's style, but we lived more correctly, etc. A typical bay of a person who has experienced a generation gap. It’s like in the army, they say our call was better, and then they drove full boobies that do not rummage at all, but we “flew”, and nobody touches these at all ...
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      not so frivolous, absolutely does not want to build communism, live in Leninist style, but we lived more correctly, etc.


      Well, in fact, the youth of 80's just arranged 90's. So it’s not so in vain the “bays”.
    2. NordUral 20 October 2015 10: 04 New
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      No - this is not nostalgia for childhood, but for that country (albeit not very perfect) where his life passed. And in that life there were other priorities. He speaks of them.
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      2. Mera joota 20 October 2015 10: 31 New
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        Quote: NordUral
        No - this is not nostalgia for childhood, but for that country (albeit not very perfect) where his life passed.

        However, he is not nostalgic for endless queues, coupons for everything and not the fact that there will be, for clogged vehicles you’ll crawl-crap. By the "wonderful Soviet service", by the indispensable doom everywhere and everything as the norm of life. The fact that the author as a child did not encounter many problems does not mean that they did not exist, it was a headache for his parents. He does not imagine what it is like to make repairs in the dormitory room (for example) in the early 80s, but this is one of the "minor" problems.
        For some reason, the author believes that there are only two options for what happened and what is now, no other way has been given and many agree with him. Yes, look at the world, you can live better than we lived then, and even more so now!
        1. alicante11 20 October 2015 14: 07 New
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          However, he is not nostalgic for endless queues, coupons for everything and not the fact that he will,


          This is a disaster. Past.


          on clogged vehicles you’ll crawl-crap.


          Are you going to work by car now? Try a bus ride. You will immediately understand what a "clogged transport" is. By the way, in the middle of the 80's the first minibuses appeared. With the fare of 20 kopecks (versus 6 kopecks on a bus), but exclusively with seats. So overpaying three times it was possible to go with comfort. Unfortunately, disaster did not take root, again. There were few Rafiks, gazelles had not yet been invented, and Mercedes minibuses were still not affordable for cooperators.

          it was the headache of his parents. He does not imagine what it is like to make repairs in the dormitory room (for example) at the beginning of the 80's, but this is one of the "minor" problems.


          Well, they did it in a two-room apartment and ... what? The problem was with building materials, especially high-quality wallpaper, electrics and plumbing, it was not so easy to get it, but somehow everyone got it. Tin shells and painted walls were found only among grannies and drunks.
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          Mera Joota RU
          Yes, look at the world, you can live better than we lived then, and even more so now!

          Dear, but more specifically, how should this look?
          What do you want to offer?
    3. andrew42 20 October 2015 14: 54 New
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      Yes, there is no nostalgia here. The author simply did not focus enough attention on the main "hero of our time" - the "effective" manager. And on the environment in which he lives, for which he fights - the elements of the dough. "Effective" was not accidentally written in quotation marks, since efficiency is 95% exaggerated. The main principle is to beautifully sell a business plan (planets, planner), and after us at least a flood. It’s not “effective” that Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria was the most effective manager of all time. True, the methods of achieving efficiency were hmm .., let's not talk about that. On the other hand, the goal of his management was orders of magnitude higher - state building. The author writes about the alternative, where does nostalgia come from? I’m ready to subscribe to almost every word in the article. The article is fully consistent with my attitude and assessment of the current situation. And it leads to one single conclusion (to those who are pleasant, to whom it is not very) the conclusion: there is no alternative to state socialism. Given our national values ​​and archetypes, there is no alternative. The odious capitalist relationship is just a petty epoch in the history of mankind. 350 years is not a term.
    4. veteran66 21 October 2015 15: 47 New
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      Quote: Mera Joota
      The author is nostalgic for his childhood.

      That's for sure! Like in a joke:
      - Grandfather, why do you say that you used to live well, because there were no jeans and chewing gums, everywhere were the lines?
      - so I then, granddaughter, stood ...
  6. Armored optimist 20 October 2015 06: 14 New
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    Alas, it will not work to remove the financial dominant.
    Unfortunately, the Communists, I was also a Communist, made a colossal mistake somewhere in educating the people. One that allowed, against the background of all the positive things described by the author, to be preserved and all the vile traits in the characters of people - greed, envy, desire to sit behind someone's back, etc. At the first opportunity, all this came out.
    But, most importantly, these qualities were inculcated in both children and grandchildren of large party leaders. And this turned out to be the bomb that blew up the USSR.
    But, generally speaking, the chances of achieving communism were very few. It is real that a person does not seek to grab more, he should have everything. But even then, when complete abundance was achieved, people would appear with base desires, or unfulfilled material requirements - their starship, a cottage the size of the Taj Mahal, or intangible - a harem, one hundred servants, etc.
    In a word, a person needs to be flogged and brought up for another thousand years. And this is in the absence of problems with "daily bread"
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      Armor Optimist (4) RU

      I agree with you, after the death of Stalin, ideological work was launched, which turned into covetousness. As a result, "consumption" and irresponsibility, nepotism and advancement, not according to ability, but according to devotion, have grown in terry colors.
      We see the result ourselves!
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      Unfortunately, the Communists, I was also a Communist, made a colossal mistake somewhere in educating the people. One that allowed, against the backdrop of all the positive things described by the author, to remain and all the vile traits in the characters of people - greed, envy, the desire to sit behind someone’s back, etc.


      And this does not go anywhere. Man is not perfect. He is generally a controversial creature. Therefore, he needs to constantly show the path along which to go. Moreover, I’m not talking about the stick, which people are driven by need along the path of capitalism. You need to talk with people, explain that service is better than selfishness. And at what to explain not for proforma, but so that they believe. As soon as the communist elite got tired of showing the way and decided to "live for themselves", all these vices got out.

      But, generally speaking, the chances of achieving communism were very few. It is real that a person does not seek to grab more, he should have everything. But even then, when complete abundance was achieved, people would appear with base desires, or unfulfilled material requirements - their starship, a cottage the size of the Taj Mahal, or intangible - a harem, one hundred servants, etc.


      Do not philosophize crafty. Communism is abundance. And if someone wants a cottage the size of the Taj Mahal, then let him board a spaceship and drive to Mars, there is a lot of free space there. We read the Strugatsky, everything is there.
    4. Per se. 20 October 2015 07: 34 New
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      Quote: armored optimist
      Unfortunately the Communists, I was also a Communist, made a colossal mistake somewhere
      A colossal mistake was that the Communists forgot Lenin’s words from his self-titled article in 1923, “Better Less, Better,” the topic was very suitable in quantity without quality, as a member of the CPSU. There should not be ex-communists if they really were communists. There was a term in the police, “werewolves in uniform," such opportunists and careerists who went to the party, and perverted socialism, defamed and ruined the Soviet Union. Now all these opportunists, former "communists", for the most part already newly-minted bourgeois, in United Russia, in the new party in power, as they were in the CPSU before. There are United Russia here to think about. Communism may have been a distant and difficult goal, but our civilization has no reasonable alternative to socialism, since the positive of capitalism has long ended, it has become an economic transnational virus, a global financial and economic pyramid, a dead end. The morality of consumerism and money, as the main motivation and purpose of life, also does not bode well for mankind anything good in moral and spiritual development. Paradoxically, but denying God, the Communists were much closer to the commandments of Christ than the hypocritical bourgeois, whose "God" has long been the Golden Calf and Satan. What happened has to be accepted, accepted as a test, only after losing the USSR many understood what we had and what we really should strive for.
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    6. Gardamir 20 October 2015 10: 56 New
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      made somewhere a colossal mistake in educating the people
      I’ll try to guess. Remember in the USSR, comedians and satirists, criticism and self-cry, films making fun of our lifestyle, for example, "Afonya" "Garage", the list goes on. What now? Clowns like TNT, carrying all kinds of nonsense. No criticism and God forbid satire. Name at least one film that makes fun of the current consumer ** lifestyle.
    7. pistons 20 October 2015 13: 28 New
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      In the 60s, a social experiment was conducted on about. Svalbard.
      In short, he is:
      On Svalbard, where the USSR had a concession for coal mining, a town was built for Soviet specialists. This colony had its own shops. Experimenters placed the Soviet colony of Svalbard in conditions similar to communism - they announced that all goods can be taken for free if necessary. At first, everyone rushed to snap, especially caviar, cigarettes, etc. But shops persistently filled with goods. And then people calmed down and began to take exactly as much as they needed. But the main thing was ahead. After some time, they began to take less goods for free than they bought before ...

      The same Stalin never believed that socialism is an eternal regime of strict and constant economy and labor exploits.
      The slogan was an interesting "Soviet-best"
      For example, you can take Stalin's residential buildings (until now, they are considered elite housing)
      "Victory" car surpassing many foreign cars in terms of comfort
  7. fvandaku 20 October 2015 06: 18 New
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    America must be destroyed am
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    Thanks to the author! He expressed all that from which cats themselves scratched their hearts.
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    Thanks to the author for the article. I grew up at the end of the USSR, and I went into adulthood with the formation of Russia. But childhood memories cannot be erased or thrown away. There is something to compare. Even now, when our policies are so praised, I feel sorry for the children, as they were deprived of their opportunities, deprived of their freedom of choice and development. What is most interesting, I am proud that it was born in the USSR, and not in Russia. Great country, great achievements, great people, and Russia is just a pale shadow. It was simply incomprehensible to those born and raised in Russia, but it’s a pity, apparently we missed something important, we did not give them. But as they say, hope dies last. Last. I believe in our future and the future of our country. The main thing is not to repeat the mistakes, the mistakes of the pursuit of a freebie. hi
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      I grew up at the end of the USSR, and I went into adulthood with the formation of Russia. But childhood memories cannot be erased or thrown away. There is something to compare.

      As my son (14 years old) recently said to me, “I would like to live in the USSR,” I almost fell))).
      I ask him where I say such a desire?
      - Yes, he says, yes, you heard enough of your mom laughing
  10. Military Builder 20 October 2015 06: 34 New
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    Almost from my childhood, it was written off, or simply it was almost the same throughout the Union, they did not live but were in poverty.
    I don’t remember, on some website, there was a poll: What would you take from the USSR in today's life? there were many offers, and free housing and education, and many others, but with a wide margin I won: "Confidence in the future" and I completely agree with this, no matter how wealthy we are today, tomorrow we’re not very sure.
  11. My address 20 October 2015 06: 40 New
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    And friends and girlfriends were chosen by heart, not by wallet.
    Author! good Materialize! I consider it necessary to raise your rating.
    I appeal to "you" because you and I are of the same blood. Ya., Like EvgNik, I remember how they said in the kindergarten that Stalin died, and how the teacher had sobbed. hi
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      I, like EvgNik, remember how in the kindergarten they said that Stalin died, and how the teacher sobbed. hi


      And I was 4 of the year when Brezhnev died and when the funeral was shown on TV, I burst into tears, asking my parents how would we live without a Leader? As I foresaw, damn it ...
  12. Hope1960 20 October 2015 06: 43 New
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    Our vast country cannot survive without the principles declared in the USSR: friendship of peoples; good education, medical / service for everyone; subsidization by the state of agriculture and railways and air transportation, and many others that do not fit into the market that has been imposed on us. The Anglo-Saxons want to make us just as illiterate, stupidly chewing, throwing themselves at another expensive useless thing and drooling with joy! The same as their main population! And who will fly into deep space ?! Defend the homeland from all kinds of greedy freaks ?! We without "... if tomorrow is war?! ..." cannot survive! But in the Union it was still good!
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    Stories about the Union are different for everyone.
    I was also born in the Union, mother is a teacher, father is a worker.
    The four in a one-room apartment lived until
    until I left graduate school at the factory and we did not collect money for an exchange of housing.
    So how much was good, so much was bad.
    Now I have the opportunity to buy in China any instrument that I need.
    Previously, tools were stolen from enterprises, you can buy figs in a store.
    About housing ... about housing just heard, probably in the wrong places, parents worked.
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      Quote: Zomanus
      So how much was good, so much was bad.
      Now I have the opportunity to buy in China any instrument that I need.
      Previously, tools were stolen from enterprises, you can buy figs in a store.
      About housing ... about housing just heard, probably in the wrong places, parents worked.

      So an article that had an idea, faith and confidence. And then what is missing now, it will be tomorrow, well, in the worst case the day after tomorrow, but it will be, and no one doubted it. And it would be, and it was 100%. hi
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      About housing ... about housing just heard, probably in the wrong places, parents worked.


      Probably not in those. However, I do not know where it was necessary to work in order to get a ride with the apartment. Already for the teaching staff of the apartment stood out always. As far as I know old teachers, everyone lives in their apartments and everyone got them, ess-but in the Union. Father-in-law received two apartments. One at the factory, another at the collective farm. My father worked as an engineer in civil aviation, so, the last for a long time they also waited for an apartment, but also got in 35 years. Aunt in the trade unions worked not a lump even once, also did not remain without an apartment. Grandmother is a teacher, also with an apartment, they lived with her until they gave her father. Her sister is a nurse midwife and also with an apartment. I note that everyone is by no means one-room. Well, I don’t know where it was possible to work in order to completely wander around with the apartment.
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        Drunks and truants were often thrown into apartments at special meetings hi
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      Quote: Zomanus
      Now I have the opportunity to buy in China any instrument that I need

      And how much does that tool work compared to stolen then from the factory? Well, if the year lasts.
      Quote: Zomanus
      About housing ... about housing just heard, probably in the wrong places, parents worked.

      But now you can buy an apartment without straining ... Get in a loop for 20 years and every day think about whether the banker will increase the interest rate and if the office in which you work is jammed?
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        But now you can buy an apartment without straining ...

        Well, how not straining. Mortgage more than 11-12 years - almost one apartment for the price of two. Interest is truly predatory.

        Quote: Alf
        Get into the loop for 20 years and every day think about whether the banker will increase the interest rate ...

        Will not increase. It is impossible under the law.

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        ... and will the office in which you work be jammed?

        But this is - yes, seriously. Fear for all time mortgages.
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          Get into the loop for 20 years and every day think about whether the banker will increase the interest rate ...
          Will not increase. It is impossible under the law.

          By law, you can’t, you have correctly noticed this. But where, unfortunately, are laws now being followed in Russia? The banker will turn out of the skin, but will find some loophole.
  14. Mitrich76 20 October 2015 07: 04 New
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    Author +++++. Scratched right inside. It struck nostalgia. But no return will fail. Unfortunately. The ruling "elite" was then allowed a little more than ordinary citizens. And now they were allowed everything ...
    It is impossible for everyone to have a lot. There are 2 options left - either to everyone, but to the extent possible, or to a lot of those who will be able to capture, and the rest - what remains in the dog fight.
    And in the struggle for their level of consumption, our "elites" will fight without sparing lives. Ours with you.
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      The ruling "elite" was then allowed a little more than ordinary citizens. And now they were allowed everything ...
      And remember, the Soviet Union was breaking under the banner of the struggle with privileges. Right now they have no privileges, they can do anything.
  15. k174oun7 20 October 2015 07: 08 New
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    Having removed their head, they do not cry through their hair. In Soviet life there were many wonderful and many bad. About the same "blat" we also learned from childhood. For example, it is better not to recall how apartments in KECHach SA were provided. Medication is a special song. There was no corruption in its present form. But there were still disgraces.
    Of course now you can compare. And then there was nothing. Glaring hypocrisy, many cases of mismanagement, when money, equipment, products disappeared before our eyes and no one was responsible. I wanted a change. In other words, they thought it would be better. Therefore, all the good was leveled by duplicity, blat, irresponsibility. Accordingly, you and I did not particularly uphold that power, although it has given us a lot.
    They did not listen to the warnings of Arkady Gaidar, who in the words of Malchish-Kibalchish warned that the bourgeois would come and lead us into their damned bourgeoisie. So the bourgeois came and led us into this very bourgeoisie. The main traitors received iron crosses and sacks of money, their minions and speculators got bundles of cookies and jars of jam. Well, we have what we have.
    But even this Russian bourgeoisie is not in the way of the world bourgeoisie. There is a great desire to finish off. And this cannot but rejoice. The prospects are foggy. But the ray of hope did not fade. The wisdom and forces of GDP would be enough to keep the country from a big war. And nothing can be worse than war.
    Thanks to the author for the article.
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      And nothing can be worse than war.

      Worse than the war, in my opinion, there may be a world in which the bourgeoisie won because they will begin to destroy those who survived "these people did not fit into the market" (C)
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      Quote: k174un7
      They did not listen to the warnings of Arkady Gaidar, who in the words of Malchish-Kibalchish warned that the bourgeois would come and lead us into their damned bourgeoisie.

      Most interesting, this "bourgeois" turned out to be Yegor Gaidar, the son of a writer, and the granddaughter is now conducting anti-Russian propaganda together with the American spy Saakashvili in "Ukraine".
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        Grandson and great-granddaughter, somehow. wink
      2. Gormenghast 20 October 2015 13: 48 New
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        Arkady Gaidar wrote a short, half-page story, "Vasily Kryukov" (it was recommended for elementary school students).

        Zablab Yegor Gaidar ruined the USSR, in the company of the same scumbags; carried out the genocide of the Soviet people.

        Maria Gaidar sang in the Nazis and even schizophrenics (whom I mean, I think, is clear) dreams of breaking apart already Russia.

        Such a progression of degradation. am
  16. oblako 20 October 2015 07: 39 New
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    Exactly. How to explain to those born later that Ukraine and all 15 union republics are our country? There is a war on our territory. Our "partners" destroyed it and continue their expansion ... essentially a war. They expect that our generation will die out, and the new will live in a different reality and with a different memory. There are “projects” that last longer than a human life. So I’m for the USSR, besides the bad things that really happened, there were a lot of good things that today's journalists and scientists don’t write and research about - this is below their dignity ... this is not the trend. This is only nostalgic for those who were born in the USSR. I am among them.)) And these are not memories of youth, which, by definition, is brighter and more interesting ... This system did not give rise to war and there is no way to go anywhere, but the market strives for it by definition. In a world of "limited resources," you can be happy only at someone else's expense. This is such a market axiom, if it seems fair to you, then I do not follow the path ... But seriously, if humanity wants to survive, then there is no alternative to socialism, in principle, simply on a new technological and informational basis.
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      oblako

      And here is a valuable remark!
      Just at this time, GOD himself ordered a return to socialism, taking into account modern supercomputers, no GOSPLAN will be needed, and there will be no deficit inherent in a planned economy.
  17. zarodinu 20 October 2015 07: 41 New
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    I completely agree with the author of the article. There were goals, ideas, and confidence in the future. We were the most socially protected state. And all human vices were rightly condemned - and now they are proud of them. Soothers ....
  18. Babai Balkan 20 October 2015 07: 46 New
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    Well, for sure, there were KAMA and Ural ... And then Perestroika appeared: for each trader according to his ability, the bazaar is impunity, the stronger is the tax from the first two. And the people, out of habit, believed in the state, in NON-delay of salaries for more than 3 days, in paid work after vocational schools. Democracy surged along and the people already understood: it is necessary to hunch on 2-3 jobs and save the children for higher education, because then LIVED doctors, lawyers, models, and at worst shuttles. And when do people bring up their children ??? And the kids watched the influx of Western super-blockbusters and cartoons about I AM MAIN (compare two of our Mowgli and theirs, or Winnie the Pooh!). The grandmothers got bored. And all the trash sawed the country. So we saw a bright future ... Until the last month I was a citizen of the Soviet Union, life forced me to, I had to take citizenship of this country, BUT I AM FIFTH Proud of BIRTH IN THE USSR!
  19. Babai Balkan 20 October 2015 07: 54 New
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    Thanks to the author: "a hackneyed topic" that will not wear out like everything with the OTK sign until Russia surpasses the USSR! Thanks again!
  20. Waroc 20 October 2015 08: 08 New
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    "Bicycles were bought as they grew:" Butterfly "," Schoolboy "," Salute. "

    ))))) ... I have with the greats - exactly the same sequence)))
  21. vch62388 20 October 2015 08: 20 New
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    Born in 1971. 1989 - an appeal to the SA. I swore an oath in my life ONE. "I, Citizen of the Union ..." (those who wish can read). The war with the "brothers in the USSR" in Tajikistan ... Guess three times how many positive emotions this organism can endure. Yes, and money for luxurious (at that time) vital activity = 0.
    Found myself. Married 20+ years. Son at the university. Oath did not change.
    1. WUA 518 20 October 2015 08: 43 New
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      Quote: vch62388
      I swore in my life ONE

      In the USSR, documents on the adoption of the Oath, with personal signatures, had a signature stamp: keep forever.
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    3. Mera joota 20 October 2015 10: 08 New
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      Quote: vch62388
      1989 - an appeal to the SA. I swore in my life ONE

      Quote: vch62388
      Oath has not changed

      From the text of the military oath:
      I am always ready, by order of the Soviet Government, to defend my Homeland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a warrior of the Armed Forces, I swear to defend it courageously, skillfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing my blood and life itself to achieve a complete victory over enemies .
      If I violate this solemn oath of mine, then let me suffer the harsh punishment of Soviet law, the universal hatred and contempt of the Soviet people

      August 18, 1991 The government of the USSR called on all citizens to protect the USSR.
      You claim that the oath was not changed, the USSR was destroyed, according to the oath, you had to defend the USSR without sparing your life in order to defeat the enemies. Do you feel the hatred and contempt of the Soviet people?
      1. vch62388 20 October 2015 11: 25 New
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        Not August 18, but August 19, 1991, being in the ranks of the USSR Armed Forces, I:
        he was an honest, brave, disciplined, vigilant Warrior, strictly kept military and state secrets, implicitly carried out all military manuals and orders of commanders and commanders.
        ... conscientiously studied military affairs, he cherished military and national property in every way, and until his last breath was devoted to his people, his Soviet homeland and Soviet government.
        I was always ready by order The Soviet Government to defend my Homeland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a warrior of the Armed Forces, I was ready to defend it courageously, skillfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing my blood and life itself to achieve a complete victory over the enemies.

        Have you decided to remind me of the words of my oath?
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        2. Mera joota 20 October 2015 12: 37 New
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          I was always ready, by order of the Soviet Government, to defend my homeland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

          An interesting position for you, if there was no formal order, then you do not need to defend it? The government of the USSR asked its citizens to fulfill their duty, but you did not because it is a request, not an order? Cunningly ...
          Like, you watch how enemies destroy the country, but there is no order, and yes ...
          If you are such a formalist in the field of fulfilling oath promises, then at the time of signing the Bialowieza Agreement, members of the USSR government could not give an order because they were imprisoned by those who destroyed the USSR.

          Quote: vch62388
          Have you decided to remind me of the words of my oath?

          I can also recall the STATUTES OF THE INTERNAL SERVICE OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE USSR.
          1. A serviceman of the USSR Armed Forces is a defender of his
          Homeland - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
          A soldier carries personal responsibility to protect one’s
          Homeland.
          1. vch62388 20 October 2015 13: 35 New
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            The internal service charter is a document guided by which this organization lives. This is a purely internal document. Or in my everyday life should I continue to use the UVS standards for the number of washstands per family member? Fundamental guide to action any serviceman any the army is commander’s orderand not your own understanding, bordering on a reasonable initiative.
            There was a period in the history of my Motherland in 1917 when strategic issues were decided by "personal intelligence", soldier gatherings, elective commanders ... Remind me of what ended?
            19.08.91/XNUMX/XNUMX The Government of the USSR did not ask its citizens for anything, nor did it issue orders to its military personnel with an appeal "we will defend our Homeland - the USSR."
            But in December of the same year, when the country really broke up, all the conditions have already been created for this - see above, about 1917.
            1. Mera joota 20 October 2015 15: 53 New
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              The fundamental guide to the action of any soldier of any army is the order of the commander, and not his own understanding, bordering on a reasonable initiative.

              You are trying to find an excuse for yourself, so you are engaged in formalism.
              Is a soldier who finds out about an attack on a country obliged to wait for an order in order to defend it? No.
              On December 8, 1991, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich, Fokin, Kebich, Burbulis and Shakhrai destroyed the USSR. In plain sight. Announcing to the whole world. Do not give a damn about the results of the referendum, i.e. on the will of the people. All citizens of the USSR who took the oath of office should have made a choice:
              -to defend the USSR in accordance with this oath
              -Do not do anything by allowing a handful of criminals to equip their allotment
              What other options could you have? If a criminal is trying to take possession of a strange wife in front of her husband’s eyes, should the husband wait for cries for help? Despite the fact that the wife has a gag in her mouth and she is unconscious? Or is this a reason to make excuses in the future they say she did not call for help?
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                I intervene sorry, many in \ h and from. the police were ordered to (ORAL) issue weapons and ammunition to the personnel, but against whom? against those who applauded standing? Against you? A soldier is a defender of the Fatherland, and service in the ranks of the USSR Armed Forces was an honorable duty. Soldiers and gendarmes are not the same thing.
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                Quote: Mera Joota
                December 8 1991 of the year Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich, Fokin, Kebich, Burbulis and Shakhrai destroyed the USSR. In plain sight. Announcing to the whole world. Do not give a damn about the results of the referendum, i.e. on the will of the people.


                In the recently published memoirs of V.F. Kebich, the former Prime Minister of Belarus, one of the signatories of the “Bialowieza letter”, there is a chapter “Mikhail Gorbachev knew about the coup d'etat being carried out and had a real opportunity to prevent it”.
                We read: "Dinner began at about one in the morning (this is December 9 1991 of the year.). At the suggestion of Yeltsin, they drank only "Bialowieza ...
                In the midst of the feast, when the people already had little control over their behavior, the Chairman of the KGB of Belarus Eduard Ivanovich Shirkovsky approached me.
                Putting aside, he whispered: Vyacheslav Frantsevich, this is a real coup! I reported everything to Moscow, to the Committee ... I’m waiting for the Gorbachev team ... After all, there is a fact of treason, betrayal, if you call a spade a spade
                ».
                Further V.F. Kebich writes: "Alas, Moscow was silent. They simply could not report Shirkovsky’s message to Gorbachev, I rule it out».
                Of course, they reported on the traitors to the main traitor. But he was silent.
                From the book: [Kurlandchik A.– “THE CURSED SOVIET AUTHORITY” ... on Proza.ru].
      2. Silhouette 20 October 2015 15: 19 New
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        Quote: Mera Joota
        August 18, 1991 The government of the USSR called on all citizens to protect the USSR.
        You claim that the oath was not changed, the USSR was destroyed, according to the oath, you had to defend the USSR without sparing your life in order to defeat the enemies. Do you feel the hatred and contempt of the Soviet people?


        Demagogy + provocation + fraud + substitution of concepts =? ....
        1. The government of the USSR did not call on citizens to protect the USSR. From whom was there something to protect? Nobody seemed to attack. So there was no enemy.
        2. When the enemy is internal - then the call of the government can only mean the outbreak of civil war in each locality. Thank God this did not happen.
        4. The servicemen have not been ordered to get involved in the political life of the country. The oath of discipline does not cancel.
        5. It is impossible to feel the hatred and contempt of the Soviet people now because it was a politicized definition that disappeared with the fall of Soviet power. All became Russians, Kazakhs and Jews.
        1. Mera joota 20 October 2015 16: 12 New
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          1. The government of the USSR did not call on citizens to protect the USSR.

          Here it is, as I quote, unfortunately the text is large:
          Compatriots! Citizens of the Soviet Union!
          In a difficult, critical time for the fate of the Fatherland and our peoples, we are addressing
          we are to you! Mortal danger looms over our great Motherland!

          Taking advantage of the freedoms granted, flouting just
          sprouts of democracy that appeared, extremist forces arose, heading for
          the liquidation of the Soviet Union, the collapse of the state and the seizure of power at all costs .... We urge all citizens of the Soviet Union to realize their duty to the Motherland
          and provide full support to the State Committee for Emergency
          situation in the USSR, efforts to lead the country out of the crisis.

          If for you the phrase “We urge all citizens of the Soviet Union to realize their duty to the Motherland” does not mean anything, then what are you trying to discuss?

          Quote: Silhouette
          it can only mean the outbreak of civil war in each locality. Thank God this did not happen.

          Undoubtedly, the citizens of the USSR made a choice, forgot about their duty to the USSR for the sake of peace, they did not know that this was not for long ...

          Quote: Silhouette
          The oath of discipline does not cancel.

          Discipline is so easy to cover inaction ...

          Quote: Silhouette
          All became Russians, Kazakhs and Jews.

          Yes. Everyone suffered the death of the USSR calmly, they never swore to defend ...
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            Quote: Mera Joota
            If for you the phrase “We urge all citizens of the Soviet Union to realize their duty to the Motherland” does not mean anything, then what are you trying to discuss?


            Do not lie. This is not a call from the government of the USSR. This is an appeal of the deputies of the Supreme Council.
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    wonderful article, but about the financial dominant:
    after the 9go class, we decided to earn some extra money during the summer holidays. I (like "the smartest") went to a construction cooperative (it was 1988 a year), and friends were taken by loaders to the store. Well, then there was no nonsense about "child labor", the children worked whoever wanted, just a limited number of hours / day. In general, I was slightly deceived in the cooperative, I received somewhere 25 rubles in 150 days. A ticket then to Moscow cost 164 rubles. Those. at current prices it is somewhere 20-25 thousand
    Friends paid 6-240 rubles for 260 hours of working day! This is almost 40 thousand current. A bottle of awesome beer cost 50 kopecks. You can count in this equivalent, if you like. Of course, in Magadan they paid more than in the whole country ...
    This is to the fact that in the USSR the golden calf was not really worshiped, and especially they did not take a steam bath about “becoming rich”. But there was much more money than now.
    My father-in-law is a turner. When the USSR received up to 800 rubles / month. In terms of the same air tickets (Magadan-Moscow), this is far beyond 100 thousand rubles / month. Moreover, pennies were spent on public services, kindergarten and other obligatory accounts.
    Where did the money spend? Magadan simply merged them on vacation. Someone saved, and accumulated by 50-70 thousand Soviet rubles !!! Then Gaidar came and threw everyone. Who is smarter - bought a house on the "mainland". Sailors poured everything in restaurants. They had a chip - to fly to Moscow for one day to sit in a restaurant in Prague ....
    In general, we lived happily .... And together. And we visited each other not only on weekends ....
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      A bottle of awesome beer cost 50 kopecks. You can count in this equivalent, if you like.

      I sit and pretend to be the equivalent ... the Comet tape recorder in those years cost me about 390 rubles. A lighthouse with columns may be slightly lower. Sony or TDK cassettes cost 9 rubles each - it turned out pretty well for a salary, received 150 rubles and bought 16 cassettes). sports equipment was often unavailable to me, because the same Adidas or Tomis sneakers at the flea market cost from 60 to 90. The Electron TV was taken for 700 with something. Lada eight of 8-9 thousand?
      The mother sometimes earned 400 rubles as a milkmaid, but she was often among the leaders for a long time, and usually the salary of a tractor driver or milkmaid was around 150-200 rubles, depending on the season. I also studied at school then, so I had to work from grade 7 and had to work in the summer. now on the current, then podpasko. but seemingly lived in abundance?
      1. Magadan 20 October 2015 09: 45 New
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        Do not confuse technological progress with government success. In addition, technological progress, due to which tape recorders, cars and other electronics began to be cheap, is not happening in Russia

        You would use cell phones as an example as an example :)
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          this blank "do not confuse technical progress ..." constantly pops up in conversations about the USSR). how can I not talk about this, if our everyday life consists of this and it concerned me daily. what are the successes in the 88th speech? I say that I had to earn some money to buy something, and I’m all about success. there was nothing to dress, they are about successes. cited as an example cars, equipment, clothes, I do not like it, so what are the successes? You can go through the products.
          You would use cell phones as an example.
          Well, certainly not funnier than judging by beer
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            this blank "do not confuse technical progress ..


            And you take for example iPhones. Now it is the same hi-tech as the first cassette players in the USSR. And nothing will have to be confused with anything. I’m hinting, in addition to iPhones, there are also smartphones, which are much cheaper.
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              Now it’s the same hi-tech as the first cassette players in the USSR

              Why would a cassette recorder become a novelty in the 80s? The same Comets and Notes have been sculpted for many years and they cost exactly the same as the first releases. They cost a lot, hell is enough salary. I'm not talking about our Vegas (Novosibirsk), they were generally sold at space prices.
              Or take bicycles, what was there so super-technological, corresponding to the appearance of the same iPhones? Perm bike cost more than a hundred rubles! What is the money for?
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                Perm bike cost more than a hundred rubles! What is the money for?

                Uralets, in the region of 35 p., Ural seem 75 p., Kama or Desna, folds of 110 p.
                The average salary is from 75-100r.
                TV, 64 kg. weights for 400 r. laughing This is seen for weight.
                Soviet electronics, it’s good that a neighbor telemaster is at hand, sorry 92 left Izrial.
                Sharp 777 since 1988, Afghanistan, still alive nieces happy, already cousins.
                On Argo 004s, transistors on the right channel constantly burned, I liked to chew cassettes. smile
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                  TV, 64 kg. weights for 400 r

                  Chaika 722, cost in the district 700 p.
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                    Chaika 722, cost in the district 700 p.

                    Here, one mechanical watch was not bad then released.
                    There are Commander’s, before perestroika, before the collapse -live, even 24 hour and bullshit that 90 x gave after the release of the dead.
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                The same Comets and Notes sculpted for many years and they cost exactly the same as the first releases


                Many years, how much?

                http://savok.name/145-magnitofon.html

                Here it says mass production since 1977 of the year. IPhones are the first somewhere with 2008, for 7 years already and the price does not think to decline.

                Perm bike cost more than a hundred rubles! What is the money for?


                Well, probably there were more affordable ones. Otherwise, they would not have bought.
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            I had to earn some money to buy something, but I’m all about success. there was nothing to dress

            And we, from the 7th grade, earned money on vacations at a construction site not out of need, but in order to prove to ourselves and others that we ourselves can do something, that men. A tape recorders, mopeds of course bought, there must be a measure of steepness! But "need" is in some other country, you confuse! request
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      Magadan

      Northern allowances.
      1986 Uncle graduated from the military academy and sent him to teach at the military school in Kharkov. Until 1991. He lived in a rented apartment. And he rented it from the "oil workers" of Surgut, and then half of Ukraine then worked in the North. Having housing here and there.
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      Quote: Magadan
      we are with children after 9th grade on summer vacation

      Greetings. We are almost the same age however. hi
      Anologically, in 89, after the eighth grade, they offered to work in the school, to fix the furniture to the walls (seismic safety), and to help with the little things around the house. We worked together for a month, earned 290 rubles.
      Quote: Magadan
      Well, then there was no nonsense about "child labor", the children worked whoever wanted, just a limited number of hours / day.

      yes There were no problems with this, who wanted to, he worked, and the state encouraged such aspirations. Plus she was taught to work at school in the form of daily cleaning of the class after the lesson, once a month the general in the class, and the whole class. After the end of the school year, school cleaning and repair assistance (high school students). In winter and spring, snow digging was the whole class - it was fun.
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      They had a chip - to fly to Moscow for one day to sit in a restaurant in Prague.

      laughing This is a bike, although some individuals probably were. We only have the Bolshoi Theater or a beer in Vladivostok. Sailors did not all get very much. In state-owned enterprises, the fishermen had 3-4 thousand for the six, rarely more, and collective farmers got a lot up to 12 thousand (of course, not all and not always), an average of 1,5-2 times more.
      Quote: Magadan
      And we visited each other not only on weekends

      That is yes. On the New Year everyone congratulated each other, kissed, hugged, poured, we had it until 97, when you get to the square or to your friends, drunk in zyuzyu. And this was despite the difficult 90s. drinks
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    Well, they helped themselves to the "fraternal peoples" and accustomed the people to obedience to the CPSU - as the party died, the country disappeared. There was no one to mobilize the people, did not wait for the order, and they were not accustomed to defend their lifestyle. The interests of the Soviet elite and the people diverged. Any formation needs a strong leader who will remind the elite of "do not lose the coast."

    At all times, there are pros and cons, the only thing is that insanity, stupidity and lawlessness have nevertheless become more. And under the Union, no one would have thought of touching the monuments of the Great Patriotic War, scolding, desecrating them, or conducting Nazi marches.
  24. dog1965 20 October 2015 08: 44 New
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    The Soviet Union was ruined by the so-called "elite". After Stalin, this “damned” caste actually “closed”. The irremovability of power, regardless of the results of activity, is the biggest minus of the USSR. There were more. Unfortunately, most of the "minuses" moved to Russia, but most of the "pluses" remained there - in the USSR. The fish rots from the head. Clearly, the “rotten elite” wanted more than it could have. Which led to the betrayal of the hunchback. Unfortunately, the road back (the construction of communism) is no longer there. And the new idea is now apparently in the stage of "crystallization". And I really want to hope that this will be no less bright ideal in relation to justice.
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      Quote: Dog1965
      The Soviet Union was ruined by the so-called "elite". After Stalin, this “damned” caste actually “closed”.

      Well, they say, Stalin understood what the party had turned into and wanted to “tear it away” from governing the country, leave it only as an ideological tool, but did not manage to ... poison it earlier.
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      The Soviet Union was ruined by the so-called "elite". After Stalin, this “damned” caste actually “closed”.


      Thank you, I completely agree. I will add.
      The Bolsheviks (the then elite of the USSR) showed the Soviet people the ultimate goal in life - communism. A justice society in which their children will live.
      Our fathers and grandfathers had a purpose in life and they did not become slaves of Germans or Jews. For the sake of children, they died in attacks, for the sake of children they fell exhausted and hungry at the machines.

      But we did not have this goal. The party nomenclature was the first to show that its goal was to consume and have fun. Of course, she hid this goal, but she lived in public - how can you hide?
      The lack of a goal in life led to the fact that the Soviet people were defeated even by not courageous and selfless Germans who desperately fought before 9 on May 1945 and even after, but by some cowardly and smelly slaves of the stomach and lust from Hollywood. A shame! But in order to perceive shame, you need to have a conscience, but where does it come from the one whose goal is to consume and have fun?
  25. Makarov 20 October 2015 08: 45 New
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    ... there are millions of us ... break through)
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    The author described in simple words the country in which our children should live! That’s the national idea! Bravo!
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    1. Alexey M 20 October 2015 13: 01 New
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      1. The primary school in the third grade was. Further, the division of subjects for teachers.
      2. Waste paper was handed over and given a coupon, and then came at a certain time and place and calmly bought, coupons were burned if they did not come.
      3. A three-room apartment for 4 was given if the children were heterosexual.
      4. To go to the pioneer camp, dad easily took a ticket, mom took a ticket. If they do not work together, but there are still uncles, aunts, etc.
      I agree about the subscription editions, I don’t remember what it would be.
      Well, modern children really began to read less, and interests
      become completely different remember at least "selfie".
      According to salaries, bread is 20 kopecks, milk is 20 kopecks, meat is 3-5 rubles. Motherboard payment is 10 rubles. I gave paid for the apartment, light, etc. there was also enough bread and milk. If you need to index one in a thousand, then more or less converge.
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        Quote: Alexey M
        1. The primary school in the third grade was. Further, the division of subjects for teachers.

        From 1968 to the mid-80s (I won’t tell you for sure). But there were no primary school teachers of Russian.
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        .If you need to index one in a thousand, then more or less converge.

        I substantiated 1: 200. Justify 1: 1000.
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        3. A three-room apartment for 4 was given if the children were heterosexual.

        I would like to see you after how long you gave birth to a second child, a boy to a girl or a girl to a boy in odnushka, you would get a three-room apartment, but never from a two-room apartment.
        Quote: Alexey M
        4. To go to the pioneer camp, dad easily took a ticket, mom took a ticket. If they do not work together, but there are still uncles, aunts, etc.

        But not at six years old and uncle-aunt is not entirely honest, which means due to another more needy child.
        1. Alexey M 20 October 2015 17: 47 New
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          1. The reform in the school was in 1997, then 11 years of education were introduced. Before that, the elementary school was 3 years old, then 4. In the elementary school there was one teacher besides music, in my opinion, now there are several specialized ones.
          2. I justify 1: 1000 stupidly for moral damage. laughing
          I agree with 1000 bent, although 200 is also small.
          How much of the percentage spent on food and living on a salary, I think 30-40 rubles? And now how much does it go? Can you live on food and rent for 8000 rubles? Then you need to take an integrated consumer basket then and now, plus communal services, etc. then cooef. output.
          3. The apartment is as it should be according to the norms. They even let me know who, people even managed to get several apartments. At some factories like ZhBK, ZKPD, SMU, and other salaries, they were small, but they gave apartments.
          4. I went to the camp at 6 years old. And my uncle took a ticket. In general, the trade union is a great thing. Plus, many camps were departmental or sponsored at each large plant, there were one or two camps and sanatoriums with boarding houses. And all for mere pennies.
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            How much of the percentage went to food and living from a salary, I think, 30-40 rubles?

            And that lifestyle has changed slightly - did not notice? We have a family (father-mother-boy (14 years old, me, yes) - girl (sister, 3 years old)) - if there were a couple of hens in the refrigerator, that was a supply for a month. Now we (you, me), when we have money, go to the boutiques and buy .. I personally, for one, for a week, if you don’t save - less than that doesn't work. I know guys who are not very rich, they just like to eat, tasty and varied - they considered sports for the sake of a half and a half a day for three (father, mother, son).

            Quote: Alexey M
            This is the norm for an apartment

            Put on - put on. In the 73rd sister was born, in the 86th baht (not the last person in the office, by the way) - they gave a three-ruble note. Broken into a dribbadan, parquet themselves - where they changed, where they putty. Sawdust on glue, yes. Makeup - well, of course, with my own hands, it’s good - Bati’s hands are normal, and I don’t have jop.

            Something like this. I can’t say anything bad about the Union - there was a system, it worked, you could live in it. But he would not idealize.

            Something like that.
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            1. The reform in the school was in 1997, then 11 years of education were introduced.

            You wanted to say apparently in 1987? I finished 1994th grade in 11, and in the 6th grade I didn’t have a chance to study, because when switching to 11 year education, they switched from 5th to 7th right away ...
    2. Arkon 20 October 2015 13: 06 New
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      The author does not write the truth, he describes his childhood impressions.


      Here! I finally reached the correct, in my opinion, comment. smile

      And still time plays a role. The seventies and eighties are completely different times. Eighties - this is a total lie in all "ideological organizations", events "for show", inactive police, card system (butter and sausage on the cards were in Penza, and not of the best quality).

      It just needs to be understood, or some kind of surprise arises: if everything was so good, then why did people take so much enthusiasm for perestroika.
      But for many at first it really was a "breath of fresh air."
      And everyone liked Gorbachev.
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        Quote: Arkon
        inactive police, card system (butter and sausage on the cards were in Penza, moreover, not of the best quality).

        You just forgot to say what year it was from the 80s.
        Here the destructive role of cigral cooperation. About two years ago, one fashion designer spoke in a box, talking about cooperation, how they worked, naturally from a positive side. Varenki jeans were sold, and where they came from - from the state trade for bribes or services. Those. an artificial deficit was created. Here is a method of initial capital accumulation that undermined the economy. Of course, I do not ascribe the main fault to this process, but he made a significant contribution.
        I also remembered frozen pineapple slices in cellophane, 0,5 kg each produced in Vietnam, with completely empty shelves. Then I ate pineapples, I still can’t tolerate them.
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          You just forgot to say what year it was from the 80s.

          I will try to answer for Arkona.
          In the early 80s (when Andropov replaced Brezhnev), a deputy police chief shot himself in a small Belarusian town. Probably why.
          The card system appeared in the late 80s. A supply of goods was built according to two rules, or there was not enough money, or goods.
          When I told my mother in the mid-70s: As these lines were tortured, my mother answered: I have been waiting in turns for life, now for butter, now for sunflower, now for flour, then for matches.
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            Quote: corn
            How tormented these lines

            Just forget that back then the queues were not only because of defecit, but mainly because of "outdated" stores - now you buy supermarkets with cash desks, and then one seller sold everything.
        2. Arkon 20 October 2015 15: 59 New
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          You just forgot to say what year it was from the 80s.


          Considering that I finished school at 84, and my mother sent me to school for oil (“Buterbrodnoe” - it was impossible to eat), the beginning was year 82.

          Why did I write that it was in Penza, because in all regions it was different.
        3. Cat man null 20 October 2015 23: 03 New
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          Here is a way of initial capital accumulation that undermined the economy

          Nope. Colleagues, it began with the fact that they allowed to cash non-cash. Through the same, by the way, cooperatives.

          And here it started ...
    3. gunya 20 October 2015 22: 36 New
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      SEM, ask questions, I will answer.
      I was born much earlier than the author of the article, even under Stalin.

      Dear, what, in your opinion, is the reason for the collapse of the Union?
      What is the difference between the so-called The Stalinist economy from the economy of the Khrushchev and Brezhnev period?
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        Quote: gunya
        What, in your opinion, is the reason for the collapse of the Union?
        What is the difference between the so-called The Stalinist economy from the economy of the Khrushchev and Brezhnev period?

        For a couple of good books the answer will pull.

        The short answer is that everyone has his own. And all, as a rule, are correct .. but partial

        And the question is good, ++++
  28. Old26 20 October 2015 09: 02 New
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    Quote: gunya
    I agree with you, after the death of Stalin, ideological work was launched, which turned into covetousness. As a result, "consumption" and irresponsibility, nepotism and advancement, not according to ability, but according to devotion, have grown in terry colors.

    I don’t know whether or not after Stalin’s death, but ideological work has become a formality, like so much more. As in the 70s, in most cases, the Komsomol became a formality. Yes, the youth left for BAM, that was. But in the field, this was often a formality. Often the work in the Komsomol was reduced to the fact that it is necessary to hand in contributions and distribute tickets, usually to performances where no one went.

    And so slowly, from day to day, degradation gradually took place.
    Much could be said about mistakes, in particular in planning and economics, ideology. But I won’t. This is the past, good or not, but our past, which you sometimes recall with nostalgia.
  29. Tatar 174 20 October 2015 09: 08 New
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    As if I were writing an article ... Where is my Great Soviet Union ?! (((
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  31. Kovlad 20 October 2015 09: 16 New
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    And to ask such a question to the current nouveau riche businessman, who are all, as one, former large party-Komsomol officials: Do you want to in the USSR? Becoming definitely a big plus. Everything itself was almost the same.
  32. Oleko 20 October 2015 09: 24 New
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    Scolding young people is a sign of old age. Not everything in the USSR was good. I was born in 1952. I remember the village of Golubitskaya when my mother sent me for bread and where they nearly crushed me to death. This is the time of the "corncob". Brezhnev with his "stagnation". Grocery orders. Decision of the Food Program. The same petrodollars that bought grain in Canada. And the Iron Curtain, "censorship, which I am very grateful. We did not know about sexual minorities, about lesbians. Our books, films were distinguished by spiritual purity and morality. We were brought up on them. We did not know how much is sitting in the zones, what are the" concepts " To be honest, I don’t want to know this. Oligarchs? And after them there are tens of thousands of people who work for him but receive a salary. Uncle Zyu wants to return this to the people. How? Managers with a huge salary will disappear? No. Just change the sign - instead of Lukoil there will be State Oil Production and that’s all. Draftsmen offer confiscation, executions, wages no higher than 5 minimum wages. It was .. it was .. it was ... It will not be Miller there will be Koreiko.
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      Uncle Zyu wants to return this to the people.

      Uncle Zu is a tame dog of edros, who is concerned about survival.

      Yes, glorious times were, and what songs and movies were! Could people with a rotten soul from the dough be able to compose this? Now there are no such songs and from remorse and squalor of soul make remakes and stuff. We had MAN in the first place, and now money.
  33. Million 20 October 2015 09: 26 New
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    About the USSR 99% of the memories are positive
  34. Kargana 20 October 2015 09: 44 New
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    Of course, what the older comrades are talking about, I did not find - I was born late.
    But here .. Born in Tajikistan. Dad is a Ukrainian, military topographer. Mom is a Leningrad doctor. And I grew up in Western Ukraine, in a village. And all my childhood sheer flights and transfers .- to dad in Tajikistan. To grandfather to Ukraine. To grandmother in Leningrad. And now these are all different countries.
    I can’t feel like a citizen of Russia. I am a citizen of the Soviet Union, whose country is no longer there.
  35. Magadan 20 October 2015 09: 55 New
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    Many opponents of the USSR have such a trick - they begin to say in the spirit that they say in the USSR there were expensive tape recorders / televisions / refrigerators and a car, they say, was in one out of a hundred families!

    Guys, stop confusing TECHNOLOGY PROGRESS with SUCCESS OF THE GOVERNMENT

    Especially when technological progress does NOT occur in Russia!
    Let's all remember together that there were no iPhones in the 17 century. And from this we conclude that the current student lives richer than Louis 14go laughing

    The stump is clear that cars have fallen in price, refrigerators with automatic machines too. Due to the fact that Japan (and other countries) learned to produce them cheaper than in the 80 years.
    If we measure the standard of living in iPhones and laptop books, then yes, now we live richer. Thanks to China / Japan / Germany.
    But if you translate the average salary into meat / vegetables / gasoline / rent, then excuse me, we are simply beggars compared to the USSR. By the way, not only us, America, too
    1. Hleb 20 October 2015 10: 07 New
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      which opponents? Does any truth give you a reason to define a person as an opponent of the USSR? that's for sure chip)
      Let's all remember together that there were no iPhones in the 17th century
      can still remember the times when fire was knocked out of stones? in the DPRK, too, everything is a bundle thanks to Japan? and Afghanistan, Somalia, Angola ...?
      I'm not an opponent of the USSR, I just look at things really.
      By the way, these days from Magadan to Yakutsk did not go by car? here is the progress where!
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        By the way, these days from Magadan to Yakutsk did not go by car? here is the progress where!

        I can’t go from Kamchatka to Magadan, there is no road. Where is the progress? repeat
        1. Hleb 21 October 2015 12: 17 New
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          there is a road there, why lie then. take a photo? but in general I'm not only about the road, but about what life is along the road
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        MrK 21 October 2015 12: 03 New
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        Dear Gleb! If you are not lucky in the USSR. This does not mean that everyone was unlucky.
        Yes, it was different. I will make a reservation: I know well the difficult, painful sides of those years.
        I agree with you. And the apartments were different. Depending on the importance of production. But all of my relatives who worked at the enterprises EVERYTHING RECEIVED APARTMENTS.
        That's about mobiles is not necessary. In 1990 I had a friend of a co-operative with a mobile. It was the size of a brick. And it worked without recharging 20 minutes.

        Why, then, despite all the difficulties in the USSR (and they, of course, were), besides that it happened both hungry and scary at times, brilliantly created by Korolev and Amosov, Shostakovich and Richter, Dovzhenko and Tarkovsky?

        Why did the many peoples who inhabited the Soviet Union, in that very humiliated era, gave the world Sholokhov and Chakovsky, Aitmatov and Khachaturian, Mamardashvili and Gamzatov, Druta and Babajanyan (I can write several names with names). Moreover, each of these people could become the pride of both Europe and America. Why then it was, and now this, you critics, is not observed?
        The main thing was confidence in the future.
        Today? Even the middle class? My friend (has three construction companies) has everything at first glance. Three cars, a luxury home and debts, debts, debts.
        This is his phrase: Everything is there, but to live is more disgusting.

        Today, there are no social elevators for youth. If dad has no money.
        And I, a kid from the outskirts of a small district town, became a DTN professor in the USSR. And today - there is money - study. No, go to brotherhood or eat vodaru, expand.
        So you do not need to dump everything in one pile.
        Someone is lucky even today. Manages to steal. But there are fewer of them. I will tell you a terrible secret. The whole 3,14 health of our sunshine, that the crisis is about to end, is nothing more than 3,14 health. The crisis is just beginning. And it will only get worse.
        Sincerely.
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          why did you paint all this for me? I didn’t seem to complain, but only on the advice of Magadan I figured out the prices, and showed him that you shouldn’t just ask for a price on beer. lucky, no luck, I don’t understand what luck it is. that TVs cost 700 rubles? or were there no affordable clothes to choose from? duck is stupid to deny. maybe you were a speculator and for you 700 rubles didn’t mean anything, but for most hard workers it was a considerable amount. 9 thousand on the car all the more.
          What mobile phones are you talking about? I wrote to someone here about them, or don’t know to whom to write my thoughts? in addition, it is poured in such a way that it’s not even funny, because without the operator in 1990 this brick simply could not work in the country.
          and also, when I just started to think about the future, as you said - “tomorrow” and confidence in it, so my country fell apart. what the hell are you talking about here?)
          also accuse me of dumping in a heap))
          similarly with respect!
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            By the way, for me, your opinion is like selfishness, because how you lived, and do not care about the next generation. why? because the collapse of the country was inevitable under that party policy, and the collapse of the USSR is proof of that, but you stubbornly want to return that system back, live happily for several decades, knowing that the country will collapse again. and not the USSR, but Russia will be divided. understand what i mean? this is inevitable under Khrushchev, Brezhnev and, as a result, Gorbachev ... who were brought up by that system and who will be born again with it. You know about the collapse, about the tragedy, about the inevitability of such an end, but you do not want to think persistently about future generations.
            egoism is not otherwise
        2. forwarder 21 October 2015 14: 36 New
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          And I, a kid from the outskirts of a small district town, became a DTN professor in the USSR.

          I'm just a little bit in the subject. Therefore, I know that today this is the criterion of failure. Loser. What are you boasting for having reached the level of a loser?
          But in this case it is clear why you are so for the USSR. Not workers, no, but people like you with the collapse of the USSR have lost everything. They were majors, but became losers. My condolences. This is not a mockery, this is serious.
          Unless you had time to convert your pieces of paper into the right chair. Then everything can be different.
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            Therefore, I know that today this is the criterion of failure. Loser. What are you boasting for having reached the level of a loser?


            If I correctly understood in your opinion all doctors, teachers, university professors - these are losers. And all the thieves are winners. This is so far. But this is for the fucking Government of the Russian Federation - we are losers.
            Speaking of yourself. I am a senior citizen, but I can do my 50 000 every month. And for consulting enterprises every two to three months I get another 100-150 thousand.
            And now answer, which of us is a loser, and who is a winner.

            Surprisingly different in your position. You are betting the country and the CPSU on one board. Since I dream of the USSR, then I am for the return of the CPSU. This is not true. For the state is everything, but the party is nothing.
            Best regards
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      Quote: Magadan
      Especially when technological progress does NOT occur in Russia!

      Is happening. But he does not concern everyday life and everyday level. But all our achievements abroad quickly bring huge profits to those who pushed them into production.
      Quote: Magadan
      now we live richer. Thanks to China / Japan / Germany.

      Absolutely right.
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      Very true assessment.
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      But if you translate the average salary into meat / vegetables / gasoline / rent

      I translate:
      1. The average salary is 150 and 30000, 1: 200 (I ask you not to catch fleas, I know what I’m talking about, I can prove it with numbers, I don’t take the USSR for the last 5 years).
      2. The cost of 1kg of butter 3r50kop, multiplied by 200, it turns out 700.
      3. The cost of one kg of pork (with bones and lard in the state trade) is 2 rubles, multiplying by 200, I get 400.
      4. The cost of 1 kW * hour - 4 kopecks, multiplied by 200 I get 8.
      I think enough.
      I can only agree that now the pipe has become lower and the smoke has become thinner.
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    Well, they say, Stalin understood what the party had turned into and wanted to “tear it away” from governing the country, leave it only as an ideological tool, but did not manage to ... poison it earlier.

    Yes, who cares, pay attention to the XIX Congress of the CPSU (B.). There were castes in the Union too: the "clergy" - this is a party that has already formed, but the "nobility" - the pragmatists who raised the USSR twice under Stalin, did not manage to form their caste to the end, they were defeated after Stalin's death, with the assassination of Beria.
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    We lived not poorly and not richly - in abundance. The state provided a three-room apartment for four.
    An interesting thought and a good one. The author was lucky big, and many are still waiting for these meters. Yes, and many then had money and a big family, but to join the cooperative and build their apartment did not work. such as those who are closer to the body or a production leader. It touched me then in full. such as a member of the trade union committee, always with an apartment, and Uncle Vasya, not an editor. but with his family he’s been waiting for years. Sometimes it was no longer necessary to give, because of the death of the applicant. Is this really life ??? And bicycles, yes, what nonsense is that. . You also recall sausage for 220, subsidized. They worked like the whole country, made a profit, which the state, in principle, selected, and gave handouts, such as sausages, meat, milk, I subsidize the same collective farmers from this profit. Where half of the machine operators are drunk. Personal opinion. I didn’t like it very much, but just try to say it, you’ll jump out of work with a wolf ticket instantly. Even without severance pay. . Why am I writing this ??? - Yes, I just lived at that time for almost 40 years, and not as an author, I just had stagnation.
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      Those like you in the 90s sold out. Only THEN the drunk was not in SUCH quantity and everyone worked. How much he earned - he received so much, but now no matter how much you work, you will receive how much the owner will give out. ALL.
      About the spiritual component, interest in myself and others - I am silent. Now everything is for the money. About the trade union committees - you are a signalman, it has always been, but in the USSR they made sure that the grabbers did not get fat. Now who is watching ???? What is the trade union committee doing and protecting whom? And about building cooperatives - in general, nonsense froze. My grandmother working at the GAZAPAPARAT plant (accountant) received 2shku in a cooperative house. The whole house was from the staff of this factory. Yes, after work we went to a construction site and sometimes instead of work, BUT !!!!! no one complained - they built their own for themselves.
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      You also remember the sausage for 220, subsidized.


      Another unlucky one. About the sausage by the way.
      In the majority of MODERN SAUSAGES, meat filling does not exceed 30%, and the rest is SKIN EMULSION, FAT EMULSION, MEAT semolina, POTATO AND CORN STARCH, BARLEY FLOUR, RICE DARK, OLD OLED OLSE.

      If, according to such recipes, sausage would be cooked in the USSR, then for each person there would be 120 kg of product per year (80 kg was released in 40), and there would be no talk of a deficit.
      • Now in the Russian Federation you can freely buy any product, get any service, go to any country. Can only the majority of Russians be able to do this? Now the main thing in the Russian Federation is money, but honestly they cannot be earned in the current economic situation.
      Therefore, most citizens cannot take full advantage of new opportunities. Even food is now consumed less than in Soviet times with its deficits.
      Indeed, the USSR lacked some of its products and its goods. Why? Because, the salary of a citizen of the USSR allowed everyone to buy them. BUT Did the new mode solve this problem? In no way, he significantly aggravated it and made it insoluble within the framework of this regime.
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        In most MODERN SAUSAGES meat filling does not exceed 30%,

        And according to the Appendix to the Soviet sausage and sausage GOST 23670-79 from 1979 in the 1980 edition. meat filling in the amount of 0% (zero) was allowed. Those. as “Soviet sausage” you could get, quite legally, a mixture of bone meal, wood glue, plasma, starch and boiled bladders.
        And since there was not enough raw material, it was basically the way it was. Especially at the end of the USSR.
        And I want to remind you, this "vomit" of very serious money was worth it.
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          And according to the Appendix to the Soviet sausage and sausage GOST 23670-79 from 1979


          It’s not necessary to lie. All this was allowed only during the Second World War and only in besieged Leningrad.
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            All this was allowed only during the Second World War and only in besieged Leningrad

            Soviet sausage and sausage GOST 23670-79 from 1979 as amended in 1980. with its annexes applied in those days? What, in the besieged Leningrad, did they produce and give out sausages?
  39. Uncle Joe 20 October 2015 11: 31 New
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    Now, of course, everything is changing for the better. The sport is developing, they began to read slowly. Mugs and sections are reborn
    From 2000 to 2014, the number of state and municipal educational institutions decreased from 68 to 44 thousand, and you saw the development of sports and the revival of circles with sections somewhere.

    main question: is it possible to remove financial dominance from today's life? And if so, what should I replace it with? How to make so that millions of people wake up from the hassle of financial enchantment and again become people?
    How would history develop if capitalism did not seek to maximize profits, but to systematically improve the material conditions of the masses? If he could have turned his profit not to satisfying the whims of the parasitic classes, not to improving the methods of exploitation, not to exporting capitalism, but to systematically raising the material situation of the workers and peasants?
    - Then there would be no crises. But then capitalism would not be capitalism.
    To destroy crises, it is necessary to destroy capitalism.
    I. Stalin vol. 12, p. 242-245


    PS To everyone who is proud of being born in the Union: you have nothing to be proud of - this is not your merit.

    You can be proud when you rebuild the USSR, and not so much in the form of squeezing back into territories, but in the form of restoring the socialist system, restoring the power of the Soviets.
  40. Stalnov I.P. 20 October 2015 11: 35 New
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    I went about the same thing, but I'm not a techie, but my hands can do that, thanks to my father, he was a carpenter, a carpenter, an uncle who, when they sent me to the village for the summer, taught me how to work with a shovel, and by the way, this is also an art, an ax, saw, sickle, pitchfork, chopper, useful in life. I read everything. About today I’ll say the following: if our rulers took care of the people, they would take all the best that was in the USSR, add the best of other countries there, in general, after the collapse of the Union, it would be possible to build a new socio-economic system for the whole people, and not a handful of sloppies , swindlers, corrupt officials. I just answer to myself that it was not possible under Yeltsin even now, well, we don’t have leaders of the scale LENIN, STALIN, NU NO. There are no leaders with political will, strategic thinking and planning, there is no vision of the entire national economic complex in its development, there is no clear for people and most importantly approved by the majority of PEOPLE OF RUSSIAN domestic politics. I think in the near future such people will not be expected to be too small, corrupt, our authorities are not professional and we all see this, and we are only talking about it in no sense, they DO NOT HEAR US.
  41. Gormenghast 20 October 2015 11: 58 New
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    To the author - respect.

    I also studied in the first "E"; also wrote (and read) "Young Technician", and, later, "Science and Life"; also changed waste paper to books. Also, too, too ...

    And now the Nobel Prizes are given for "study of the mechanism of consumption" am
  42. Gall_st 20 October 2015 12: 13 New
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    About those times ...
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  44. Ramses_IV 20 October 2015 12: 31 New
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    Plus author, fully support!
    Well, a cartoon from the USSR on the topic:

  45. Reducer 20 October 2015 12: 33 New
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    Stalker - BROTHER !!!
    hi
  46. Rigla 20 October 2015 12: 54 New
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    For the sake of Hochma, Ukrainians should be given this article to read, I can imagine their cries ... :) a scoop of quilted jackets :) Colorado :) would laugh at the last of Goebbels and Shukhevych.
  47. nnz226 20 October 2015 13: 01 New
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    A leaf picture of life in the USSR such as the movie "Russia We Lost" I was born in 1957, so I found the USSR completely. Let's start with subscribing to magazines: the subscription to "Youth Technology" was limited and it is unlikely that the son of a turner and laboratory assistant could subscribe to it. I am the son of an engineer and a teacher - I have never been able to. He lived in Rybinsk (Yaroslavl region) - 240 000 people, in 340 km from Moscow - not in the remote taiga, but he couldn’t even sign up! I had to study the magazine in the reading room. On Supply: Anecdote from the stagnation period: “Where is the border between socialism and developed socialism? - The Moscow Ring Road! And where is the border between developed socialism and communism? The Kremlin wall!” ... Remind me of “sausage trains”? (Does a long and green sausage smell like?) When from all the surrounding regions went to Moscow to buy two sausages, butter, cheese, and other food for a week !? Himself, having entered the Leningrad University in 1974 for every vacation, drove home a full bag of food! Here is the USSR! I don’t deny its good sides, but don’t need the stuff!
    1. LEX SU 20 October 2015 14: 04 New
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      and I read the technique of youth to holes! they were in libraries and pioneer camps! and I read calmly - the rest was something else to do (football, etc.), and I read! So whoever wanted to read it!
      The son of 2 engineers =)
      grew - Village Yaroslavl, Khorolsky district, Primorsky Krai - 9800km to Moscow
      1. EFA
        EFA 20 October 2015 14: 42 New
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        Plus, buddy!
        I also still have TM TM 1988-1991, and science and father's life 79-85, and Literature!
    2. I am 20 October 2015 16: 52 New
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      Technique of youth ??????? My grandmother wrote out (an accountant from the factory) - they still lie in the country. No problem. In Saratov, it was definitely not a question. By the way, there was an interesting magazine, in contrast to modern science, in focus and other gloss !!!!
      1. marshes 20 October 2015 17: 06 New
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        Technique of youth?

        Gentlemen, comrades, don’t remind the author of the science fiction novel that was published in TM, maybe around Around the World there a trip to one of Jupiter’s satellites was described, with the edge of China being hooked in the story, like a future hegemon. from the Strugatsky? So in outfits, something from the library fell into the hands.
        1. Bamse 20 October 2015 19: 25 New
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          For swamps (2):
          Arthur Clark "Odyssey 2010"
    3. izGOI 20 October 2015 17: 03 New
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      But everything is correct, from the first to the last letter.
    4. Alf
      Alf 20 October 2015 23: 22 New
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      Quote: nnz226
      Let's start with subscribing to magazines: the subscription to "Youth Technology" was limited and it is unlikely that the son of a turner and laboratory assistant could subscribe to it. I am the son of an engineer and a teacher - I have never been able to. He lived in Rybinsk (Yaroslavl region) - 240 people, 000 km from Moscow - not in the remote taiga, but he was never able to sign up! I had to study the magazine in the reading room.

      I was born in the 73rd in a working-class family in Kuibyshev. From the 78th to the 90th, my family wrote out the Technique-Youth, Model-Designer and Young Technician. There were no problems with the subscription, just my mother went to the mail and wrote out.
  48. Military Builder 20 October 2015 13: 03 New
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    Grandson and great granddaughter, something like that

    Quote: bistrov.
    Most interesting, this "bourgeois" turned out to be Yegor Gaidar, the son of a writer, and the granddaughter is now conducting anti-Russian propaganda together with the American spy Saakashvili in "Ukraine".


    Yegor Gaidar, son of his adoptive son (sorry for the pun) Timur, and therefore has nothing to do with Arkady Gaidar, except that he used "family" ties
    1. andj61 20 October 2015 17: 07 New
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      Yegor Gaidar, son of his adoptive son (sorry for the pun) Timur, and therefore has nothing to do with Arkady Gaidar, except that he used "family" ties

      Timur Gaidar was the son of Arkady Gaidar, and not his adoptive son, from his second wife, Leah (Rachel) Lazarevna Solomyanskaya. And the fact that all three — Arkady, Timur, and Yegor — are close relatives and there is no need to prove it — it’s enough to pick up their photographs at about the same age, especially with the trademark Gaidar smile — it is almost the same for all three.
  49. pts-m 20 October 2015 13: 16 New
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    to the author plus. therefore, Russia stands to the evil of external and internal thieves. we have something to compare the past and the present with.
  50. VadimSt 20 October 2015 13: 17 New
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    - Oh beautiful! Your body is flexible, like a wild chamois. The skin is as soft as a dove. Your hair is like wonderful waterfalls. Your nipples ...
    - So, Hottabych, let's stop on the nipples.
    So, here is the main question: is it possible to remove the financial dominant from today's life? And if so, what to replace? How to make millions of people wake up from the trouble of financial charms and become people again?
    Alas, even the fabulous Hottabych will not help!