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Tricky comments. And who is there, gentlemen, homeland is not enough?

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Tricky comments. And who is there, gentlemen, homeland is not enough?



As steadfastly and inexorably, as they stood under Ilovaisk and Debaltseve, Donetsk and Lugansk, Izvarino and many other settlements, they now stand under the walls of the presidential administration. Demonstrating your desire to get the promise. Even, I would say, demanding.

After all, more than a year ago they came, obeying the call (here, slightly unsure, true) of heart, to help the fraternal people of Ukraine preserve the integrity of the state and fight the aggression of Russia and Putin personally.

True, Russia never came to war. And Putin did not come either.

And the mercenaries, or, if you will, the volunteers, remained.

And they were clearly left with nothing. Broken trough, it is clear, Ukraine. Because how to stop fighting Ukraine at least with difficulty, but forced. And, accordingly, the hired class of warriors was clearly not in the business. Indeed, why? Conscripts, soldiers can hang out in the trenches for smaller amounts. And to save oh, as it should, here winter is close, every hryvnia counts.

In short, there is no victory. As well as the preferences associated with the victory.

But there is a political hangover. And the sheer unwillingness to return to the places where our heroes came from. As the 112 channel broadcast in its report, the majority of mercenaries picketing the presidential administration of Ukraine from Russia, Belarus and Moldova.

Fighters for a united Ukraine do not want to return home. I don’t know how this is the case in Moldova, but Russian and Belarusian special services don’t get paid. And, according to available data, very much in the course of who, when and where was noted in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and terbats. Especially in terbats. And, if we can get it from 5 to 10 for years with special effects, then here in Lukashenko’s father in this regard is full of sadness and longing. There, with the number 10, everything is just beginning. And the end is such that on the place of any Belarusian unfortunate warrior I would not have thought about this for more than three seconds on this topic. Because there and 25, and life, and the death penalty. And all this, of course, with the confiscation of everything. This is like a normal Batko.

So the reluctance to return home among these gentlemen is quite understandable to themselves. Even 5 years in a Russian prison as it were necessary to live. And as practice has shown, some Chechen gentlemen, having won back, did not rewind half of the term, having gotten to the right place. That heart will refuse a disease, then a liver ... Well, I just don’t want to talk about Belarus. It's easier, probably, to kill oneself out of harm, the result will be the same, only none of their KGB stars will work on the mercenary.

But Poroshenko's position is clear. Moor, as they say, did his job, you can leave the Moor. And after all these Moors are leaving, they are definitely leaving. Or uhaydakayut. Who like more.

Actually, a mercenary - he is a mercenary in Africa. And loyal to the employer, while he regularly salary goes. And if it does not, then it is necessary to look for another employer. And Poroshenko has enemies in Ukraine so far above the roof. And where is the guarantee that obtaining citizenship Square, this same mercenary will not go to offer their services Kolomoisky? Or Akhmetov. There is no guarantee. And can not be.

Here Peter Alekseich and in no hurry to fulfill their promises. Well, for him this is a normal thing, we note. But for our plunging heroes - it's rubbish. Not to plunder, nor to rummage around the houses in the Donbas, everything that you can have already taken out. And do not give citizenship. And there is no money either. There is no war ...

No, it turns out, Ukraine has new citizens. They have nowhere to go, and new ones ... Yes, even those who have passed the ATO. So the rally is not a rally, you still get ... a formal reply from the presidential administration. Best case scenario.

They say that Ukrainian warriors also came to support their colleagues. But this is unlikely to change anything. Citizenship of Ukraine does not shine for mercenaries. And most likely, the not very long road to historical Homeland. Which will meet her prodigal sons, abandoned her, in full.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 October 2015 06: 32 New
    23
    But there is a political hangover.


    I'd like to see how these warriors will be turned out from the "political hangover", from the policy pursued by Petska from Rushen.
    And this time is not far off, everything goes to that. laughing
    1. Riv
      Riv 20 October 2015 07: 40 New
      21
      Shit question. The problem is solved elementarily: the expulsion of mercenaries to Russia. Of course, in cars with barred windows, so as not to escape through the territory of Donbass.
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 20 October 2015 09: 03 New
        17
        Quote: Riv
        Of course, in cars with barred windows, so as not to escape through the territory of Donbass.

        What for? In ordinary cattle cars, as they are. Fortunately, the road is not long - in the Donbass it will be the final one. In all senses.
        1. Vend
          Vend 20 October 2015 09: 54 New
          +8
          Punishers get what they deserve. They didn’t become heroes, but I don’t want to become prisoners either. Let Ukraine rejoice that it is not with arms in hand that they require citizenship.
  2. Oman 47
    Oman 47 20 October 2015 06: 56 New
    10
    "Hey, you, unfinished, -
    Let's get an injection. " request

    V.Vysotsky
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 20 October 2015 09: 00 New
      40
      Sometimes the immature is better not to go for an injection ...
      (text and spelling saved)))
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 20 October 2015 13: 23 New
        +5
        They "only have to prick themselves, and fall to the bottom of the well, and disappear at the bottom of the well ..."
      2. Oman 47
        Oman 47 20 October 2015 22: 15 New
        0
        And besides, this surgeon received Khlyak citizenship ... crying
        And in general - he came from Russia ... There he was a cool pathologist! ... good

        What kind of cord is here?
        Chick-chick-chick - sew to another! ... belay
  3. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 20 October 2015 07: 05 New
    18
    It is bad that we have libastic punishments for this evil spirits. Natsik needed a loop and soap and nothing more.
    1. Walking
      Walking 20 October 2015 08: 17 New
      +9
      God forbid that they all get what they deserve, so that no one will pass punishment for their transgressions.
    2. 2s1122
      2s1122 20 October 2015 10: 18 New
      +6
      it is a pity that for such terms they do not summarize as in the USA, they would be drawn to three reprisals. laughing
      1. Drshan
        Drshan 20 October 2015 22: 01 New
        0
        Quote: 2s1122
        it’s a pity that for such terms they don’t summarize as in the USA, it would pull by three

        This is not humane! Lifetime THREE! It’s still so much time to drink, feed ... The highest measure and all matters. And then they will also be released on parole ???? Well, how about Vasiliev?
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 20 October 2015 07: 10 New
    33
    Everything is going according to plan. First, cretins were used to pump Maidan and change power, then they were disposed of in the war, now they are disposed of as extremists. Not even funny. I tried to explain to the Svidomites at the beginning of last year that they would be so - they did not believe. They do not believe even now, when the economy has collapsed, ties with Russia are broken, the juntas take turns rolling around the world with outstretched hands, and the marginals are cut out for the peace of the ruling elite. We’ll wait, we’re definitely in no hurry, exporting revolutions is a thankless task, as the example of the USSR showed (Skomorokhov did not order ethnic hatred, so I won’t remember everyone who didn’t give a damn to us) laughing .
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 20 October 2015 10: 25 New
      0
      This is the effect of the crowd, sinning himself sometimes succumbed.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 20 October 2015 07: 18 New
    +7
    obeying the call (here a little unsure, really) of the heart..This call is called money by them ..
    1. ivanovbg
      ivanovbg 20 October 2015 07: 30 New
      15
      For some, the opportunity to shoot with impunity - to rob - to mock people is much more important than money. There are many ways to make money, but just spit on everything and go hand out death to others, and to yourself under the bullets, this is far from as simple as it seems.
  6. Maxim Shilin
    Maxim Shilin 20 October 2015 07: 20 New
    12
    Citizenship of Ukraine is a very valuable asset, there is something to fight for laughing laughing laughing
    1. avt
      avt 20 October 2015 07: 55 New
      14
      Quote: Maxim Shilin
      Citizenship of Ukraine is a very valuable asset, there is something to fight for

      Well, here are some more wrestlers
      The Polish organization “Restitution of Kresov”, engaged in restoring the rights of Poles to property that turned out to be in Ukraine after World War II, has already collected 600 packages of documents for appeal to the court.
      These inn now, as before the Balts, will explain in fact the palasti Europa, they wanted from the "scoop" from the "rash"? Well, dig dugouts raguli maydanutye.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 20 October 2015 08: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: Maxim Shilin
      Citizenship of Ukraine is a very valuable asset, there is something to fight for

      Well, they came to fight under the walls of the presidential administration ... they stood there ... and imagine, they did come out to them and dictated a telephone number, so they say call here, and there you will be sent ..., in the sense they will tell you where to go ...! So you can say "Peremoga!"
    3. noWAR
      noWAR 20 October 2015 08: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: Maxim Shilin
      Citizenship of Ukraine is a very valuable asset, there is something to fight for laughing laughing laughing

      On this occasion, check out Ant: if briefly, a Ukrainian-ts in a pharmacy requires a bunch of antidepressants, to which he gets a fair question- And where is the prescription? - The answer does not make one doubt- And what about the Ukrainian passport is not enough? ...
  7. noWAR
    noWAR 20 October 2015 07: 28 New
    10
    I don’t want to write about this scummy rabble ... but to Roman Grand Merci for the style of presentation, eh, you should write Russian fairy tales, without any sarcasm. And these ... will be an example for There, I hope.
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 20 October 2015 07: 47 New
      +2
      ps will be an example for I.U.D. (correct. believe!)
  8. Penzioner
    Penzioner 20 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +6
    Not a bit sorry for them. They knew exactly where and against whom they were going.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 20 October 2015 09: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: PenZioner
      They knew exactly where and against whom they were going.


      Here in this, Dear Sergey, let me disagree with you, they just hoped and believed in a completely different alignment.

      Something like this, Dear. hi
  9. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 20 October 2015 07: 46 New
    +6
    They went to Europe. They thought that they were URO citizenship. In battle all the best would be achieved, it would be better if they perished. Although it will probably be soon.
    The author --- thanks for the good news.
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 20 October 2015 07: 51 New
    +4
    the historical homeland will also accept such "geese" in full, this is acute pneumonia, then an accidental attack of coronary artery disease, then a violation of safety in the gym and in public works, as our Arkady Paravozov used to say in our prisons, everything happens so to speak ...
  11. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 20 October 2015 08: 14 New
    10
    We are waiting for "Love" we remember everyone we will provide a place and food for taxpayers' money. It's time for the deceased to go home am
  12. Friends
    Friends 20 October 2015 08: 27 New
    +5
    Even 5 years in a Russian prison, as it were, must still live.


    Exactly. Besides, the question is - how to live? Something tells me that the relevant authorities will accept them quickly. And in places that are not so remote, they, for their "heroism", will not be particularly loved, and if they do, it will be a very unconventional love ... And they understand this very well.
  13. Zomanus
    Zomanus 20 October 2015 08: 28 New
    +5
    Yes, do not care for this manure.
    Rather, they would have already turned into humus, having fertilized the earth.
    At least some benefit from them.
  14. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 October 2015 08: 37 New
    +7
    All that remains is to wish the neighbors: "Bachili eyes, bash them - hey, hey!"
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 October 2015 08: 42 New
    +5
    they are now standing under the walls of the presidential administration

    And what remains to be done. Everywhere, wherever the wedge comes in and is complete. They thought that they would quickly win on this wave to the Ukrainian paradise (everyone imagined himself at least a general). They just needed it when they fought, and now they have to disentangle their own stupidity.
    there are 25, and life, and the death penalty

    Here's how not to support Lukashenko in this?
  16. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 20 October 2015 08: 43 New
    +8
    Great article, Roman.
    Thank you.
    ".. don't hold a meeting, you will still get ... an answer ..."
    I would, for example, remove the prefix from -.....
    Then it would be at the top.
  17. cniza
    cniza 20 October 2015 08: 56 New
    +8
    These are the first swallows and without schadenfreude, it does not work, but the trouble is that it will catch us too. It will hook indirectly, but someone will also have a direct connection and the trouble that the "brainless raguli" have brewed and we will have to disentangle it.
  18. Egoza
    Egoza 20 October 2015 09: 02 New
    11
    By the way, the ukrovoyaks did come to support the "brothers-in-arms", because why is this being done?
    Petro promised incredible money to volunteers fighting for Ukraine, insurance of one million US dollars, life support, and, of course, citizenship for foreign citizens who voluntarily take part in crimes against the residents of Donbass. And on December XNUMX of last year, the President announced the signing of a decree on citizenship for those "who defended Ukraine with arms in their hands," and the Verkhovna Rada even adopted in the first reading a bill simplifying the acquisition of citizenship by foreigners serving in the Ukrainian army, BUT ... it did not work ... Moreover, even those who received the cherished crusts of a "ATO participant" have a hard time ...
    “Why I will never use the benefits. Today I made a remark that I behave like a rogue - I’m terrorizing minibuses. I repeat, I pay for the fare! And this is the only video - as a definition of a problem (a benefit that does not exist in fact). You don’t understand how you feel when you are kicked out, like a scoundrel dog, no, not ashamed, scared, because those for the sake of which we were standing there under terrible shelling, are incurring misfortune, ”wrote a frustrated Ukrainian soldier.
  19. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 20 October 2015 09: 08 New
    +3
    Honestly, there is no desire to write on this topic, but just disgust arises, like from a "green snot" hanged on a branch by someone! There is no desire even to gloat, only regret that this "herd" will have to be fed "in the zone" at the expense of the state!
  20. Patriot 771
    Patriot 771 20 October 2015 09: 08 New
    +2
    How many rope do not curl, anyway .... a noose. Never scum washed in blood and money for mercenarism has not slept and will not sleep peacefully. So, gentlemen, gentlemen of fortune, she turns away from you along the way. What do we have with statistics on mortality from strangulation with euroblevotin?
  21. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 20 October 2015 09: 19 New
    +3
    And the ending is such that in the place of any Belarusian woe-warrior I would not have thought on this subject for more than three seconds. Because there are 25, and life, and the death penalty. And all this, of course, with the confiscation of everything. It’s like a normal phenomenon.


    Here the Old Man is well done, not a couple of ours! Scum must rot in prison or on the gallows and with complete confiscation!
    1. DMB_95
      DMB_95 22 October 2015 15: 11 New
      0
      Even during the time of the Great Patriotic War, the Belarusian partisans of their traitors and policemen were HANGING, if there was time. The Germans were simply wetted, as it should be in the War.
  22. provincial
    provincial 20 October 2015 09: 31 New
    +4
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/702/eptu491.jpg
  23. ilyaches
    ilyaches 20 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +5
    "... Because there are 25, and life imprisonment, and the death penalty. And all this, of course, with the confiscation of everything, everything. This is kind of a normal phenomenon for the dad."

    Old man respect and respect. hi
  24. Kargana
    Kargana 20 October 2015 10: 00 New
    +1
    You might think that they didn’t know what kind of business they were facing in the homeland. And they did not understand, poor, that Ukraine did not need such a quantity of people who knew how to hold weapons in their hands. Would you pity them already, or something. It’s hard for people, without brains.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 20 October 2015 19: 16 New
      +1
      Don't push me to pity! We need to crush this bastard bastard, but we don't need to sing about the "poor lost" here, they knew where and why. example - this is our former actress, and I will not remember his last name !!
  25. The Chat
    The Chat 20 October 2015 10: 15 New
    +5
    Normal phenomenon: traitors (and this is the traitors of purest water) always after use - disposed of (in the sense of being buried). After use, they are not needed and even harmful in every sense.
    And the countries from which these traitors left, especially this fifth column, candidates for the Waffen-SS, are not just harmful, but are categorically not needed alive, just a carcass or a scarecrow.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 20 October 2015 11: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Le Chat
      traitors (and this is the traitors of purest water) always after use - disposed of (in the sense of being buried). After use, they are not needed and even harmful in every sense.

      Basically so, BUT ... have you forgotten about the Minsk agreements? There is also a paragraph "remove foreign troops and illegal formations." these "fighters", and especially those who came under the administration, will be sent out, "fulfilling" the agreements. So the lads will also serve as scrap material for Petya.
  26. Belousov
    Belousov 20 October 2015 13: 34 New
    +1
    Ah yes Old Man, oh yes well done! good Not a couple of our liberals.
  27. What a
    What a 20 October 2015 13: 50 New
    +3
    It would always be like this. "As practice has shown, some gentlemen, having fought back, did not rewind half of the term, hitting the right place. Either the heart will refuse from the disease, then the liver ..."
  28. Balagan
    Balagan 20 October 2015 14: 51 New
    +3
    No one appreciates traitors.
  29. pts-m
    pts-m 20 October 2015 15: 40 New
    +2
    this is a pastry chef podkuzmil.a how ruffled from scaffolds that citizens of other states would ask for a "thriving urine-ruin." However, it turned out to be discerning.
  30. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 20 October 2015 17: 31 New
    +3
    And most likely, the not very distant road to the historical Motherland shines. Which will meet her prodigal sons, abandoned her, in full.
    The worst thing for a person, it seems to me, is that it is NOT necessary. Where? To whom? What for? There was a choice. They made their own. Answer me.
  31. Megatron
    Megatron 20 October 2015 19: 29 New
    13
    The young man in the photograph apparently went to the front voluntarily. His "patriotism" is visible with the naked eye, starting with his hair. People like him welcomed the Maidan with joy. Youth, ebullient energy, an unbalanced psyche and a desire to become a part of something great. He played Maidan, thinking that he could become something more significant than he is. He played war - killing civilians in the Donbass. He played superman with a grenade - risking not only his own life, but also the lives of his "brothers". Here is the result - he played it out. Now he does not have a hand - he is disabled. He still believes that the state that he went to "protect" will take care of him. He is filled with "patriotic" enthusiasm. His relatives are still filled with enthusiasm and “patriotism”. They even try to pretend that they are happy and content. But it won't last long. Soon they will appreciate how the state takes care of the “patriots”. The young man played too much, and now a sobering process awaits him. And it will surely come, as the process of sobering up the whole country. "
    1. Reinhard
      Reinhard 22 October 2015 14: 15 New
      +1
      There are a lot of them now. especially in big cities. It was. the other day. plots were distributed. and suddenly, the mass of heroes of the ATO! Wow, what are they all - we did not allow the enemy! Yes we are ...! How then they began to threaten me! Well then! I almost choked with laughter! For me there was an excursion to the zoo! laughing
  32. kg pv
    kg pv 20 October 2015 22: 03 New
    +1
    Well, as far as I know, in Belarus they don’t make a difference on which side you fought. sad
    The guys from Belarus have always said that they have little choice, either to stay there or just go to Russia.
    By the way in Kyrgyzstan, the same thing.
  33. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 22 October 2015 09: 09 New
    +8
    And now, let’s do it without emotion. Only facts. Mercenaries there or volunteers that do not want Ukrainian citizenship are important. The main thing is that Poroshnyagin surrendered, leaked, tricked people who joined him. Once again. Once again he promised one thing ... and threw .Yes, he’s just yapping, a swindler, a swindler ... You only remember how many times the promises to the whole country were not kept on record. The commander in chief is lying, his government is lying, his media are lying, their citizens are lying ... they live in a fantasy world, looking up from reality. Yes, our psychiatrists must defend doctoral on these ...... naive people.
    And a separate topic. There is such a handsome actor Anatoly Parshin. He played a lot of patriotic roles in our cinema. And when the moment of truth comes, it's time to figure out whose side you are. This muskrat darted to punishers, and not to conscripts of the Armed Forces, but to the most right-handed He’s an ENEMY for me personally! Even Makarevich was smart enough not to put on clothes with the PS symbolics. I ask all concerned to see that this redistributor never gets a job in Russia. And in general, what the Criminal Code says about extremism and incitement to violent regime change.
    1. Drandulet
      Drandulet 22 October 2015 20: 20 New
      0
      Pashinin, not Parshin.
  34. Thor
    Thor 22 October 2015 13: 26 New
    +1
    Deceived people, deceived by their own / strangers' expectations, deceived by other people, deceived by their demand, will be missed on both sides, let's face it! Not everyone will find themselves in the power structures of the DPR / LPR / AFU / Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation (about both sides), but anywhere! I was convinced of this after communicating with a friend volunteer who returned from the DPR and was in no way able to perceive the fact, "... why is not a single power structure interested in me ..." (after a series of attempts to find a job), and return to the previous kind of activity : "... I really can't / want to .."! This is just a single example, but something tells me that this is not such a rarity, on both sides! IMHO the question of adaptation will hang for a long time !!!
  35. pamero
    pamero 22 October 2015 19: 03 New
    0
    When it’s interesting, even though the last miserable bastards will take their heads, they will hit the floor cursing their vile life and realize that they sold their brothers like cattle in the market. And conscience, though the last one, will wake up. So I think and everything will go back to the people and the people. And maybe they will understand how their PANA helped them ...
  36. Teplotehnik
    Teplotehnik 22 October 2015 20: 01 New
    0
    All these idiots must be caught and severely punished! And what is this term - 5-10 years? For the atrocities that they committed there, at least from 15 to life. Lukashenko’s laws in this regard are much more objective, therefore their opposition screeches like pigs to the whole world!
  37. OlegLex
    OlegLex 22 October 2015 21: 23 New
    0
    Yes, and to hell with them, with these heroes of mercenaries, a mercenary, by definition, a man who has no honor, no conscience, nothing - just money, for the sake of money he is ready to risk not only his life, but he didn’t think about taking someone else's Whose little girl or her mothers. I am already silent about the purity of their thoughts. therefore, this is too weak a punishment for them, they deceived. Well, thank God, they punished and gave citizenship. Ruins are what they need.