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Armored "Gadfly": a wave of criticism and outrage

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Armored "Gadfly": a wave of criticism and outrage



As part of the exhibition "Weapon and safety - 2015 ”, which took place in Kiev 22-25 in September of this year, the specialists of the Zhytomyr armored plant presented their new development - the Ovod armored car. In a press release, the state enterprise Ukroboronprom announced that this development is a new promising concept for the creation of lightly armored vehicles and weapons in large quantities.

As stated by the specialists of the enterprise, the subject of the concept is the manufacture of fast-mount armored modules that can be mounted in a relatively short time (from 30 minutes to several hours) and installed on the all-terrain chassis (ZIL-131, GAZ-66, MAZ, URAL-375) as well as imported chassis, provided the latter are equipped with diesel engines.

The armored car “Gadfly” was created on the basis of the GAZ-66 chassis with an engine from Hyundai. Instead of the usual cab is installed armored module. In fact, this development is the "brother" of the BTR-80. The main objective of an armored car is not to conduct combat, but to safely transport army personnel. Basically it is designed to work in the rear. In total, the machine can accommodate up to 15 fighters.

According to the developers, the armored car has several advantages: it is multifunctional, technologically advanced, it is possible to quickly transform it and organize large-scale mass production.

The undoubted "plus" of the new armored car is cheap production. Currently, there are about 50 thousand obsolete ZIL-131, GAZ-66 and URAL trucks in the vaults and warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. For their intended purpose, it is impractical to use them because of the limited resource and uneconomic carburetor engines.

In addition, the advantage is also a powerful undercarriage with a low center of gravity and reliable army units. Due to the chassis all-terrain vehicle pretty confident overcomes off-road.

Another advantage of the Gadfly is a modular design. The basic set of armored modules can be installed in a short time. It is enough to remove the cab and body from the truck and mount the control module and the function module in their place. Depending on the task, it can be a combat or transport module, logistic and technical support modules, as well as combat control modules.

Through the use of a hinged booking kit with a total weight of about 200 kilograms, the car has acquired the bulletproofness of the third level of the NATO standard body STANAG-4569. Thus, protection against millimeter 7,62 caliber small arms is provided. A lining armored hull on the basis of reinforced fibers in the case of penetration of armor prevents the formation of a stream of secondary fragments.

Unfortunately, this positive side of the armored car "Gadfly" ends. "Cons", as it turned out, the car is much larger.

The main drawback of the new development is the catastrophically low cabin height. According to the developers, a driver about 10 inches in height should fit in it. In the event that a fighter is taller and larger in stature, and even in full uniform, in a bulletproof vest and helmet, he simply will not be able to get inside. The armored car is so low that the driver is forced to drive with his head stuck in the hatch. The logic of such design ideas is extremely difficult to understand.

As mentioned above, instead of the cockpit, a sloped armored module was installed, but the layout, in which the driver and passenger sit above the front wheel on a hot engine, remained. Thus, in the event of an explosion on a mine or a mine, the chances of surviving these fighters are catastrophically low. In fact, the armored car is deprived of mine protection. This fact was confirmed in practice during the war in Afghanistan, so the Soviet army abandoned GAZ-66, leaving ZIL-131 and URAL.

Another drawback is the low, close, narrow combat compartment. The seat is replaced by the shop in the center, and the only way to get to the combat module is to stand with your feet on the seat in the center.

The machine also has no loopholes for firing from the cabin. It is not clear why they are not there, because in this case, the crew cannot use personal small arms. In addition, landing and disembarking on the move is critically traumatic.

Control levers in the “Gadfly” are placed without taking into account the specific configuration of the armored cab.

Another major drawback is the lack of air conditioning and ventilation. If there is no air conditioner at all, then something like a gill has been installed above the screens as ventilation. For some reason, there is no ventilation grille inside the module.

Thus, we can say that the latest development is by and large a failure, it requires numerous modifications and improvements. Therefore, it is too early now to speak about the establishment of mass production, if not to say more precisely, it is inexpedient.

Materials used:
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1506191.html
http://www.autocentre.ua/news/automobiles/bronevtomobil-ovod-iz-zhitomira-sobiraetsya-na-gruzovike-za-neskolko-chasov-gb-67280.html
http://www.ukroboronprom.com.ua/ru/newsview/1/814






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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 19 October 2015 06: 49 New
    20
    Another incomprehensible fake under an armored car. They probably want to cheer the enemy to death! climb))) ?!
    1. Vend
      Vend 19 October 2015 09: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Another incomprehensible fake under an armored car. They probably want to cheer the enemy to death! climb))) ?!

      Everyone wants to grab a government order. Money is not small. The main thing here is that the special services stop bribes and other things that could release this stuffed animal into production
      1. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 19 October 2015 12: 12 New
        +5
        "masterpiece" is another mass grave ...
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 19 October 2015 16: 51 New
      +1
      In general, there are a lot of contradictions both in the article itself and in this "miracle judo" intention. This is a miracle, allegedly equipped with a Hyundai dviglom, so what kind of cross-country speech? In addition, then what does the gluttony of carburetor, native engines have to do with it (if they do not intend to install them?)? In general, protection class 3, from 7.62 will not help. Generally cars for gnomes. Why book it modularly (though I didn’t see the armored modules) if the car is planned to be used only in the rear. In short, it is generally not clear both in the article and in the aggregate itself.
  2. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 19 October 2015 06: 52 New
    +8
    What "... Currently, there are about 50 thousand obsolete ZIL-131, GAZ-66 and URAL trucks in the stores and warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ..." is a big question. The fact that they are there is, of course, but the indicated quantity and the proper degree of staffing is unlikely.
    Well, the miracle of design thought presented is just some kind of masterpiece! It is simply impossible to seriously analyze its fighting qualities.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio 19 October 2015 17: 44 New
      +6
      Let’s say, if a similar pepelats is “blinded” from what was in artisanal conditions, craftsmen in which country, where there is no heavy industry and machine building, this is a serious achievement, you can even praise.
      But if such an assembly is assembled in a country where there is (or at least was) a heavy industry, auto industry, defense industry, including the production of armored vehicles, where there was a powerful school for the training of specialists, this is laughter and sin
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  3. Kazakh
    Kazakh 19 October 2015 07: 10 New
    +9
    In total, the car can accommodate up to 15 fighters.
    Well, if only gnomes or hobbits laughing In the course of ukroin, at least some kind of equipment needs to be built.
  4. Zigmars
    Zigmars 19 October 2015 07: 10 New
    +5
    Another masterpiece of Ukrainian technical thought. I can roughly imagine how and where the driver of this vehicle of its developers will send after two hours of driving in the position shown in the first picture.
  5. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 19 October 2015 07: 14 New
    +3
    Either the man in the photo is large or the cabin is too small, I guess the latter. Erzatz on the topic of armored personnel carriers for the poor countries of the third world.
  6. Sars
    Sars 19 October 2015 07: 31 New
    +7
    Good pepelats - let them do more.
  7. nivander
    nivander 19 October 2015 07: 43 New
    +5
    TANCHANA FOR PIGMEYS
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 19 October 2015 10: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: nivasander
      TANCHANA FOR PIGMEYS

      Now there is much to do with the legless heroes of the ATO.
  8. cobalt
    cobalt 19 October 2015 07: 45 New
    +3
    Ersatz-btr to the first Utes or RPG 7
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 19 October 2015 13: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: cobalt
      Ersatz-btr to the first Utes or RPG 7

      Any of our BTR before the first cliff or RPG request
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 October 2015 07: 51 New
    +6
    Cabin tin! I already had claustrophobia after sitting in a tank, but the cabin was tin. There is at least a sense of security in the tank, but you won’t survive the accident.
  10. Yarhann
    Yarhann 19 October 2015 07: 51 New
    +4
    it’s not clear why there were hatches and doors in the cabin at all - they would just have made a chair and armor sheets in a circle and entered the driver’s seat from above and that’s all - or they could have put the doors on their doors - they’re hard to imagine driving along the highway like in a helmet
  11. medwed1976
    medwed1976 19 October 2015 07: 52 New
    +3
    The engineering miracle of the times of the 2 World War, and the music for the video ..... Otpad, well, it's straight through) / (opu.
  12. FM-78
    FM-78 19 October 2015 08: 15 New
    0
    Yes, there are problems both literally and figuratively.
  13. SIBIR38RUS
    SIBIR38RUS 19 October 2015 08: 17 New
    +6
    You don’t recognize in this “device” our Russian Vodnik basically copied in principle? :) And I look at the plug-in module ...
    In general, they didn’t come up with anything new .. :) :) :)
    1. Steelbav
      Steelbav 19 October 2015 14: 34 New
      +3
      With the exception of convenience, our GAZ-3937 is much more convenient in my opinion))) So the "refinement" is visible without an armed eye))
  14. rus-5819
    rus-5819 19 October 2015 08: 18 New
    +4
    Not strong, but with purely Ukrainian humor!
  15. Makslehman
    Makslehman 19 October 2015 09: 11 New
    +6
    another latest development of specialists of the Zhytomyr armored plant got into the network. Pros: quick installation, low cost, simplicity. And most importantly, independence from oil and environmental friendliness.
    1. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 19 October 2015 17: 59 New
      +4
      your horse is already out of date all the oats have eaten so they decide to purchase this unit
      1. inpu
        inpu 20 October 2015 12: 04 New
        +1
        Well and the most important weapon:
  16. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 19 October 2015 09: 13 New
    +7
    Guys, well, what are you so politely about this sample request lol
    To understand the occurrence of such weapons, it is necessary to take into account such factors as the total zombie of the population, the substitution of concepts, the instilling of one point of view, the announcement of zhradniki everyone who even looked in the wrong direction and wrong.
    what should the factory director do when the bell rings and the phone rings: “Are you not a patriot? An hour is not a seppar ??” So they are trying to please, creating from what is at hand what will make them patriots.
    But it is one thing when the people themselves rally in front of an external threat (as in the Great Patriotic War), another when they are forced to believe in a lie, in a blatant lie.
    So it turns out this.
    I do not condone or defend them. It’s just an attempt to look a little from a different angle at the possible options for the appearance of such weapons. And most interestingly, many technical flaws are more than overlapping with political slogans. "Nothing bad, for everything to fight against the enemy and the aggressor." That's just really the aggressor, then no. But brainwashing is on hand. Which is sad. But it’s funny when you look at the fruits of propaganda ...
    Personally, my opinion hi
    PS Jump further, you are ours, maybe you can jump to a brighter future, to the very bottom, when there’s nowhere to fall below ... Maybe then you will see repeat lol
    1. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 19 October 2015 18: 00 New
      +5
      some already galloped galloped
      1. Traktorbekov Urulu
        Traktorbekov Urulu 13 January 2018 14: 51 New
        0
        Rurikovich, I share your opinion. But for all that, industry and the defense industry are experiencing enormous difficulties - is it really impossible to make the control module more spacious, and think about loopholes in the transport ?! This is elementary, and costs will increase absolutely uncritically! Hence the conclusion - made on "Unhook", as you said - so that only a stern voice would not be heard in the receiver. Sincerely.
  17. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 19 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +5
    In summary:
    1. The design idea of ​​the developer is wretched.
    2. Workmanship can compete with design thought. Just look at the welds. In their bends and influx you can even see Salvador Dali.
    3. Judging by the relative dimensions of the cargo compartment and the cabin, when taking into account the first photo, 15 passengers in the rear module can only fit in the form of minced meat or a “soup set”.
    Armored car for the circus of dwarfs. Where only so many dwarfs to recruit to fill the 50 thousand potentially upgraded fleet?

    And this is a core business ... Complete degradation.
  18. 0255
    0255 19 October 2015 10: 03 New
    26
    "Gadfly" in comparison with the normal GAZ-66
    1. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 19 October 2015 18: 03 New
      +5
      normal kid versus bad kid
  19. Yarik
    Yarik 19 October 2015 10: 09 New
    +3
    Magic Archer (1) RU Today, 06:49 AM

    Another incomprehensible fake under an armored car. They probably want to cheer the enemy to death! climb))) ?!

    Specialized wheelbarrow for the Hitler Youth? wink
  20. aud13
    aud13 19 October 2015 10: 33 New
    +3
    Like a coffin
  21. _KM_
    _KM_ 19 October 2015 10: 42 New
    +1
    What do you want from Ukraine - the industry is in decline, the specialists fled or retrained.
  22. TARAS BULBA
    TARAS BULBA 19 October 2015 10: 49 New
    +2
    The freaks in the video, they inserted the music well, nothing special and sacred except for Bandera))) even the basis of their carts is damned by their Soviet technology ...
  23. Socialism 2.0
    Socialism 2.0 19 October 2015 11: 05 New
    +2
    For me, so - transfer all the APU to this car. Let them suffer.
  24. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 19 October 2015 11: 34 New
    +1
    We wanted the best, but it turned out - again about the removal of the tonsils through the anus ...
    1. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 19 October 2015 18: 05 New
      +5
      so through the ass it is so customary
  25. Kibl
    Kibl 19 October 2015 11: 52 New
    +3
    If there were more such miracle machines !!! And it is advisable to place the most part in the "Right Sector" and volunteer battalions !!!
  26. aviator65
    aviator65 19 October 2015 11: 53 New
    +1
    The car is a class! good The cabin is super! good Hatches for the head and for the knees - generally know-how! fellow Looking at this miracle of the Ukrainian defense industry, with special warmth you recall the good old eared "Cossack". winked
  27. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 19 October 2015 13: 53 New
    0
    Capsule of death! Nonsense!
  28. walrus-a
    walrus-a 19 October 2015 14: 25 New
    +8
    Impressive! Especially the welds - they were made by a level 80 welder! It’s interesting, on what account does the hatch cover shorten the driver exactly on the head? Cool machine, just right for kindergartens! In the GDR there was a child’s tank unit (play clean), but for them it’s a miracle of technology.
    1. Dalnegorec1
      Dalnegorec1 19 October 2015 20: 45 New
      0
      Quote: walrus-a
      Impressive! In the GDR there was a child’s tank unit (play clean), but for them it’s a miracle of technology.

      So, Lilliputians, who were not taken into the army for well-known reasons, should be tensed! For them, this creation of the Ukrainian defense industry will be, perhaps even spacious. Damn, why did I write this. Suddenly, Ukrainians will read. Then, it turns out I framed Lilliputians?
  29. Polkovodetz
    Polkovodetz 19 October 2015 14: 47 New
    +8
    If such a ... with permission to say “car” was blinded by some kind of “moderate Syrian opposition” or some kind of igil, that would be nothing. But THIS seems to be developed in a design bureau, manufactured at a factory, and such frank handicraft. Shushpanzer.
  30. Olezhek
    Olezhek 19 October 2015 15: 55 New
    +2
    In the event that a fighter is taller and larger in stature, and even in full uniform, in a bulletproof vest and helmet, he simply will not be able to get inside

    Let him run on foot if he is so fat!
    Ukraine is a bad country and its soldiers should not be fat !!!
    Let the pilots into the pilots F 35 there excess fat is welcome!
  31. inpu
    inpu 19 October 2015 16: 32 New
    +1
    belay
    If GAZ-66 was popularly called "shishiga", because of two sixes in the name, then this brainchild should be called "shishishiga".
    1. Comrade1945
      Comrade1945 19 October 2015 19: 13 New
      +2
      If GAZ-66 was popularly called "shishiga" because of two sixes in the name, then this brainchild should be called "shishishiga"


      In my opinion, just "shnyaga" should be called him yes
  32. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 19 October 2015 19: 54 New
    +1
    In the framework of the exhibition "Arms and Security - 2015", which was held in Kiev on September 22-25 of the current year, the specialists of the Zhytomyr Armored Plant presented their new development - the armored car "Gadfly".
    Specialists in what specialties did this prodigy? Frank hack. laughing
  33. tchoni
    tchoni 19 October 2015 20: 16 New
    0
    Mlyn, the shishigi and the standard cabin are a bit cramped .. And this one ... And another hatch from the top .... On an epic bump, a hundred pounds from the stop will rip off ......
  34. Dalnegorec1
    Dalnegorec1 19 October 2015 20: 35 New
    +1
    Coffin on wheels. It is also necessary to add the function of self-instillation to him. And the extension from the ground of something like a monument, or an obelisk. With a crew list ...
  35. ikrut
    ikrut 19 October 2015 23: 30 New
    +1
    Judging by the welds, the PTU welders in Ukraine have not been trained for a long time. More and more lawyers and managers. And welders work part-time cooks, cleaners and legal advisers :)
  36. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 20 October 2015 09: 53 New
    +1
    love this video

  37. SVAROZHICH
    SVAROZHICH 20 October 2015 13: 16 New
    0
    There is no mine protection, Bosko is a great target, the landing party is not able to quickly leave the car, there are no loopholes !!! CONCLUSION: another "coffin on wheels"
  38. Oblomov
    Oblomov 20 October 2015 16: 17 New
    0
    Great Ukrainians again surpassed all ...
  39. Vitail
    Vitail 20 October 2015 20: 14 New
    0
    Yes protoukry can amuse a potential enemy
  40. Turkir
    Turkir 21 October 2015 00: 12 New
    0
    Yes, the ancestors of all the nations of the World, the diggers of the Black Sea, once again proved that stupidity cannot be stopped.
  41. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 22 October 2015 01: 20 New
    0
    A gravitsapoy is completed?
  42. mrkingdom
    mrkingdom 2 November 2015 10: 22 New
    0
    Recently, too much attention has been paid to Ukrainian "innovations." I believe that it would be better to discuss other developments of the Russian or other defense industry more. The situation, too, so to speak, is not sweet.
  43. Sergei 34
    Sergei 34 28 November 2015 18: 36 New
    0
    15 fighters, this vehicle can only be transported in a disassembled state. I agree with the previous comment that this is an APC for the poor.
  44. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 1 August 2017 08: 52 New
    0
    Another bunch in the water ...
    As the hero of one famous film used to say: "You have to have a bite!"