Armored "Gadfly": a wave of criticism and outrage

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Armored "Gadfly": a wave of criticism and outrage


As part of the exhibition "Weapon and safety - 2015 ”, which took place in Kiev 22-25 in September of this year, the specialists of the Zhytomyr armored plant presented their new development - the Ovod armored car. In a press release, the state enterprise Ukroboronprom announced that this development is a new promising concept for the creation of lightly armored vehicles and weapons in large quantities.

As stated by the specialists of the enterprise, the subject of the concept is the manufacture of fast-mount armored modules that can be mounted in a relatively short time (from 30 minutes to several hours) and installed on the all-terrain chassis (ZIL-131, GAZ-66, MAZ, URAL-375) as well as imported chassis, provided the latter are equipped with diesel engines.

The armored car “Gadfly” was created on the basis of the GAZ-66 chassis with an engine from Hyundai. Instead of the usual cab is installed armored module. In fact, this development is the "brother" of the BTR-80. The main objective of an armored car is not to conduct combat, but to safely transport army personnel. Basically it is designed to work in the rear. In total, the machine can accommodate up to 15 fighters.

According to the developers, the armored car has several advantages: it is multifunctional, technologically advanced, it is possible to quickly transform it and organize large-scale mass production.

The undoubted "plus" of the new armored car is cheap production. Currently, there are about 50 thousand obsolete ZIL-131, GAZ-66 and URAL trucks in the vaults and warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. For their intended purpose, it is impractical to use them because of the limited resource and uneconomic carburetor engines.

In addition, the advantage is also a powerful undercarriage with a low center of gravity and reliable army units. Due to the chassis all-terrain vehicle pretty confident overcomes off-road.

Another advantage of the Gadfly is a modular design. The basic set of armored modules can be installed in a short time. It is enough to remove the cab and body from the truck and mount the control module and the function module in their place. Depending on the task, it can be a combat or transport module, logistic and technical support modules, as well as combat control modules.

Through the use of a hinged booking kit with a total weight of about 200 kilograms, the car has acquired the bulletproofness of the third level of the NATO standard body STANAG-4569. Thus, protection against millimeter 7,62 caliber small arms is provided. A lining armored hull on the basis of reinforced fibers in the case of penetration of armor prevents the formation of a stream of secondary fragments.

Unfortunately, this positive side of the armored car "Gadfly" ends. "Cons", as it turned out, the car is much larger.

The main drawback of the new development is the catastrophically low cabin height. According to the developers, a driver about 10 inches in height should fit in it. In the event that a fighter is taller and larger in stature, and even in full uniform, in a bulletproof vest and helmet, he simply will not be able to get inside. The armored car is so low that the driver is forced to drive with his head stuck in the hatch. The logic of such design ideas is extremely difficult to understand.

As mentioned above, instead of the cockpit, a sloped armored module was installed, but the layout, in which the driver and passenger sit above the front wheel on a hot engine, remained. Thus, in the event of an explosion on a mine or a mine, the chances of surviving these fighters are catastrophically low. In fact, the armored car is deprived of mine protection. This fact was confirmed in practice during the war in Afghanistan, so the Soviet army abandoned GAZ-66, leaving ZIL-131 and URAL.

Another drawback is the low, close, narrow combat compartment. The seat is replaced by the shop in the center, and the only way to get to the combat module is to stand with your feet on the seat in the center.

The machine also has no loopholes for firing from the cabin. It is not clear why they are not there, because in this case, the crew cannot use personal small arms. In addition, landing and disembarking on the move is critically traumatic.

Control levers in the “Gadfly” are placed without taking into account the specific configuration of the armored cab.

Another major drawback is the lack of air conditioning and ventilation. If there is no air conditioner at all, then something like a gill has been installed above the screens as ventilation. For some reason, there is no ventilation grille inside the module.

Thus, we can say that the latest development is by and large a failure, it requires numerous modifications and improvements. Therefore, it is too early now to speak about the establishment of mass production, if not to say more precisely, it is inexpedient.

Materials used:
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1506191.html
http://www.autocentre.ua/news/automobiles/bronevtomobil-ovod-iz-zhitomira-sobiraetsya-na-gruzovike-za-neskolko-chasov-gb-67280.html
http://www.ukroboronprom.com.ua/ru/newsview/1/814






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  1. +20
    19 October 2015 06: 49
    Another incomprehensible fake under an armored car. They probably want to cheer the enemy to death! climb))) ?!
    1. +5
      19 October 2015 09: 44
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Another incomprehensible fake under an armored car. They probably want to cheer the enemy to death! climb))) ?!

      Everyone wants to grab a government order. Money is not small. The main thing here is that the special services stop bribes and other things that could release this stuffed animal into production
      1. +5
        19 October 2015 12: 12
        "masterpiece" is another mass grave ...
    2. +1
      19 October 2015 16: 51
      In general, there are a lot of contradictions both in the article itself and in this "miracle Yudo" ukomysli. This is a miracle, allegedly equipped with a Hyundai engine, so what kind of cross-country ability are we talking about? In addition, then what does the gluttony of carburetor, native engines have to do with it (if they do not intend to install them?)? In general, class 3 of protection, from 7.62 will not help. Generally a car for gnomes. And why should it be modularly armored (though I did not see the armored modules) if the vehicle is planned to be used only in the rear. In short, it is not at all clear both by the article and by the unit itself.
  2. +8
    19 October 2015 06: 52
    What "... At present there are about 50 thousand obsolete trucks ZIL-131, GAZ-66 and URAL in the storerooms and warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ..." is a big question. The fact that they are there is, of course, but the indicated quantity and the proper degree of staffing is unlikely.
    Well, the miracle of design thought presented is just some kind of masterpiece! It is simply impossible to seriously analyze its fighting qualities.
    1. +6
      19 October 2015 17: 44
      Let's do this, if such a pepelats "blind" from what was in the artisanal conditions the craftsmen of some country where heavy industry and mechanical engineering are not in principle, this is a serious achievement, you can even praise.
      But if such an assembly is assembled in a country where there is (or at least was) a heavy industry, auto industry, defense industry, including the production of armored vehicles, where there was a powerful school for the training of specialists, this is laughter and sin
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  3. +9
    19 October 2015 07: 10
    In total, the car can accommodate up to 15 fighters.
    Well, if only gnomes or hobbits laughing In the course of ukroin, at least some kind of equipment needs to be built.
  4. +5
    19 October 2015 07: 10
    Another masterpiece of Ukrainian technical thought. I can roughly imagine how and where the driver of this vehicle of its developers will send after two hours of driving in the position shown in the first picture.
  5. +3
    19 October 2015 07: 14
    Either the man in the photo is large or the cabin is too small, I guess the latter. Erzatz on the topic of armored personnel carriers for the poor countries of the third world.
  6. +7
    19 October 2015 07: 31
    Good pepelats - let them do more.
  7. +5
    19 October 2015 07: 43
    TANCHANA FOR PIGMEYS
    1. +6
      19 October 2015 10: 45
      Quote: nivasander
      TANCHANA FOR PIGMEYS

      Now there is much to do with the legless heroes of the ATO.
  8. +3
    19 October 2015 07: 45
    Ersatz-btr to the first Utes or RPG 7
    1. +4
      19 October 2015 13: 11
      Quote: cobalt
      Ersatz-btr to the first Utes or RPG 7

      Any of our BTR before the first cliff or RPG request
  9. +6
    19 October 2015 07: 51
    Cabin tin! I already had claustrophobia after sitting in a tank, but the cabin was tin. There is at least a sense of security in the tank, but you won’t survive the accident.
  10. +4
    19 October 2015 07: 51
    it’s not clear why there were hatches and doors in the cabin at all - they would just have made a chair and armor sheets in a circle and entered the driver’s seat from above and that’s all - or they could have put the doors on their doors - they’re hard to imagine driving along the highway like in a helmet
  11. +3
    19 October 2015 07: 52
    The engineering miracle of the times of the 2 World War, and the music for the video ..... Otpad, well, it's straight through) / (opu.
  12. 0
    19 October 2015 08: 15
    Yes, there are problems both literally and figuratively.
  13. +6
    19 October 2015 08: 17
    You don’t recognize in this "device" our Russian Vodnik copied in principle? :) And I look at the module as replaceable ...
    In general, they didn’t come up with anything new .. :) :) :)
    1. +3
      19 October 2015 14: 34
      Except for convenience, our GAZ-3937 is much more convenient in my opinion))) So the "revision" is visible with an unarmed eye))
  14. +4
    19 October 2015 08: 18
    Not strong, but with purely Ukrainian humor!
  15. +6
    19 October 2015 09: 11
    another latest development of specialists of the Zhytomyr armored plant got into the network. Pros: quick installation, low cost, simplicity. And most importantly, independence from oil and environmental friendliness.
    1. +4
      19 October 2015 17: 59
      your horse is already out of date all the oats have eaten so they decide to purchase this unit
      1. +1
        20 October 2015 12: 04
        Well and the most important weapon:
  16. +7
    19 October 2015 09: 13
    Guys, well, what are you so politely about this sample request lol
    To understand the occurrence of such weapons, it is necessary to take into account such factors as the total zombie of the population, the substitution of concepts, the instilling of one point of view, the announcement of zhradniki everyone who even looked in the wrong direction and wrong.
    what should the same director of the plant do when the bell rings and the tube says: "What are you, not a patriot? Not an hour seppar ??" So they are trying to please, creating from what is at hand what will make them patriots.
    But it is one thing when the people themselves rally in front of an external threat (as in the Great Patriotic War), another when they are forced to believe in a lie, in a blatant lie.
    So it turns out this.
    I do not justify or defend them. Just an attempt to look at the possible variants of the appearance of such weapons from a slightly different angle. And what is most interesting, many technical flaws are more than covered by political slogans. "Nothing that is bad, then everything is to fight against the enemy and aggressor." But there is no real aggressor. But brainwashing is evident. Which is sad. But it's funny when you look at the fruits of propaganda ...
    Personally, my opinion hi
    PS Jump further, you are ours, maybe you can jump to a brighter future, to the very bottom, when there’s nowhere to fall below ... Maybe then you will see feel lol
    1. +5
      19 October 2015 18: 00
      some already galloped galloped
      1. 0
        13 January 2018 14: 51
        Rurikovich, I share your opinion. But for all that, industry and the defense industry are experiencing enormous difficulties - is it really impossible to make the control module more spacious, and think about loopholes in the transport ?! This is elementary, and costs will increase absolutely uncritically! Hence the conclusion - made on "Unhook", as you said - so that only a stern voice would not be heard in the receiver. Sincerely.
  17. +5
    19 October 2015 09: 49
    In summary:
    1. The design idea of ​​the developer is wretched.
    2. Workmanship can compete with design thought. Just look at the welds. In their bends and influx you can even see Salvador Dali.
    3. Judging by the relative dimensions of the cargo compartment and the cabin, taking into account the first photo, 15 passengers in the rear module can only fit only in the form of minced meat or a "soup set".
    Armored car for the circus of dwarfs. Where only so many dwarfs to recruit to fill the 50 thousand potentially upgraded fleet?

    And this is a core business ... Complete degradation.
  18. +26
    19 October 2015 10: 03
    "Gadfly" in comparison with the normal GAZ-66
    1. +5
      19 October 2015 18: 03
      normal kid versus bad kid
  19. +3
    19 October 2015 10: 09
    Magic Archer (1) RU Today, 06:49 AM

    Another incomprehensible fake under an armored car. They probably want to cheer the enemy to death! climb))) ?!

    Specialized wheelbarrow for the Hitler Youth? wink
  20. +3
    19 October 2015 10: 33
    Like a coffin
  21. +1
    19 October 2015 10: 42
    What do you want from Ukraine - the industry is in decline, the specialists fled or retrained.
  22. +2
    19 October 2015 10: 49
    The freaks in the video, they inserted the music well, nothing special and sacred except for Bandera))) even the basis of their carts is damned by their Soviet technology ...
  23. +2
    19 October 2015 11: 05
    For me, so - transfer all the APU to this car. Let them suffer.
  24. +1
    19 October 2015 11: 34
    We wanted the best, but it turned out - again about the removal of the tonsils through the anus ...
    1. +5
      19 October 2015 18: 05
      so through the ass it is so customary
  25. +3
    19 October 2015 11: 52
    There would be more such miracle machines !!! And it is desirable to put most of them in the "Right Sector" and volunteer battalions !!!
  26. +1
    19 October 2015 11: 53
    The car is a class! good The cabin is super! good Hatches for the head and for the knees - generally know-how! fellow Looking at this miracle of the Ukrainian defense-car industry, one recalls with particular warmth the good old-eared "Zaporozhets". winked
  27. 0
    19 October 2015 13: 53
    Capsule of death! Nonsense!
  28. +8
    19 October 2015 14: 25
    Impressive! Especially the welds - they were made by a level 80 welder! It’s interesting, on what account does the hatch cover shorten the driver exactly on the head? Cool machine, just right for kindergartens! In the GDR there was a child’s tank unit (play clean), but for them it’s a miracle of technology.
    1. 0
      19 October 2015 20: 45
      Quote: walrus-a
      Impressive! In the GDR there was a child’s tank unit (play clean), but for them it’s a miracle of technology.

      So, Lilliputians, who were not taken into the army for well-known reasons, should be tensed! For them, this creation of the Ukrainian defense industry will be, perhaps even spacious. Damn, why did I write this. Suddenly, Ukrainians will read. Then, it turns out I framed Lilliputians?
  29. +8
    19 October 2015 14: 47
    If such ... if I may say "machine" were blinded by some "moderate Syrian opposition" or some kind of igil, it would still be nothing. But THIS is kind of developed in a design bureau, manufactured at a factory, and such a blatant handicraft. Shushpanzer.
  30. +2
    19 October 2015 15: 55
    In the event that a fighter is taller and larger in stature, and even in full uniform, in a bulletproof vest and helmet, he simply will not be able to get inside

    Let him run on foot if he is so fat!
    Ukraine is a bad country and its soldiers should not be fat !!!
    Let the pilots into the pilots F 35 there excess fat is welcome!
  31. +1
    19 October 2015 16: 32
    belay
    If the people began to call GAZ-66 "shishiga" because of the two sixes in the name, then this brainchild should be called "shishishiga".
    1. +2
      19 October 2015 19: 13
      If the people began to call GAZ-66 "shishiga" because of the two sixes in the name, then this brainchild should be called "shishishiga"


      In my opinion, just "shnyaga" should be called Yes
  32. +1
    19 October 2015 19: 54
    In the framework of the exhibition "Arms and Security - 2015", which was held in Kiev on September 22-25 of the current year, the specialists of the Zhytomyr Armored Plant presented their new development - the armored car "Gadfly".
    Specialists in what specialties did this prodigy? Frank hack. laughing
  33. 0
    19 October 2015 20: 16
    Mlyn, the shishigi and the standard cabin are a bit cramped .. And this one ... And another hatch from the top .... On an epic bump, a hundred pounds from the stop will rip off ......
  34. +1
    19 October 2015 20: 35
    Coffin on wheels. It is also necessary to add the function of self-instillation to him. And the extension from the ground of something like a monument, or an obelisk. With a crew list ...
  35. +1
    19 October 2015 23: 30
    Judging by the welds, the PTU welders in Ukraine have not been trained for a long time. More and more lawyers and managers. And welders work part-time cooks, cleaners and legal advisers :)
  36. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 53
    love this video

  37. 0
    20 October 2015 13: 16
    There is no mine protection, the boss is an excellent target, the troops are not able to quickly leave the car, there are no loopholes !!! CONCLUSION: another "coffin on wheels"
  38. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 17
    Great Ukrainians again surpassed all ...
  39. 0
    20 October 2015 20: 14
    Yes protoukry can amuse a potential enemy
  40. 0
    21 October 2015 00: 12
    Yes, the ancestors of all the nations of the World, the diggers of the Black Sea, once again proved that stupidity cannot be stopped.
  41. 0
    22 October 2015 01: 20
    A gravitsapoy is completed?
  42. 0
    2 November 2015 10: 22
    Recently, too much attention has been paid to Ukrainian "innovations". I believe that it would be better to discuss more other developments of the Russian or other military-industrial complex. The situation is also, so to speak, not sweet here.
  43. 0
    28 November 2015 18: 36
    15 fighters, this vehicle can only be transported in a disassembled state. I agree with the previous comment that this is an APC for the poor.
  44. 0
    1 August 2017 08: 52
    Another bunch in the water ...
    As the hero of one famous film used to say: "You have to have a bite!"

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