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The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS

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Russian ships located in the Mediterranean Sea can at any time strike at IG facilities in Syria, reports RIA News the message of the Chief of Operations Department of the General Staff Andrei Karpapolov.




When asked by a journalist, “can a group of Russian ships in the Mediterranean, if necessary, be involved in actions in Syria,” the general replied: “Certainly.”

"Russia can at any time rocket attacks from its ships on the positions of the IG in Syria, if so decided the command" - he added.

According to the General Staff, the terrorists in Syria are suffering significant losses, and so far most of the weapons have been lost on the front lines. In this regard, they change tactics, dispersing their forces in the settlements, where they hide from air strikes.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 October 2015 11: 03 New
    76
    Here is the garne .. Let’s check this direction too!
    1. Kostyar
      Kostyar 17 October 2015 11: 05 New
      40
      The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS

      Dvizhuha went dancing U-se !!!
      1. BilliBoms09
        BilliBoms09 17 October 2015 11: 18 New
        12

        “Russia can at any time launch missile strikes from its ships on IS positions in Syria, if the command decides so”
        Правильно надо показать "потенциальным партнёрам", что средиземноморская группировка кораблей ВМФ РФ не для понтов. Но и может выполнить боевые задачи поставленные командованием.
        1. krot
          krot 17 October 2015 14: 20 New
          14
          Пора и вакуумные бомбы начать испытывать на террористах! "Папу всех бомб"!
          1. bornikrub
            bornikrub 18 October 2015 13: 28 New
            +2
            It's time.
          2. wow
            wow 19 October 2015 16: 42 New
            +3
            Actually, we used ODAB-500 in Afghanistan, in 87-88. Ochchchchen helps to clean the brain!
            1. Lenin
              Lenin 19 October 2015 20: 50 New
              +2
              I mean to clean? You probably meant the catch phrase to brainwash? Because they will be exactly wornlaughing
          3. Lenin
            Lenin 19 October 2015 20: 48 New
            0
            So they have already been tested, after Afghanistan is banned.
          4. serg2108
            serg2108 20 October 2015 00: 26 New
            +1
            it’s not the right time, it was necessary to test it yesterday ... wink
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 17 October 2015 12: 00 New
        17
        Quote: Bone
        Dvizhuha went dancing U-se !!!

        A Mediterranean squadron was being formed, which was in Soviet times (5 squadron). And this is not temporary, but, I am sure, on an ongoing basis. This is pleasing. I think this squadron will still show itself.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 20 October 2015 07: 29 New
          0
          Seriously...)))? Do you know about the strength of the 5th OPESK and its combat capabilities ..)))? I’m an ardent patriot and I love my homeland, but unfortunately I’ll succeed in collecting something similar to the 5th OPESK! Several formations enter the operational squadron, though .. if from all fleets as before .. then maybe it’s possible!
      3. skeket
        skeket 17 October 2015 17: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: Bone
        Dvizhuha went dancing U-se !!!

        Dear people, explain to me what will strike the Black Sea Fleet on ISIS, if there are anti-ship and anti-ship weapons on all ships, yes anti-aircraft defense ?! Well, Kuznetsov was promised not to be sent to Middle-earth
        1. dali
          dali 17 October 2015 18: 39 New
          +7
          Quote: skeket
          Dear people, explain to me what will strike the Black Sea Fleet on ISIS, if there are anti-ship and anti-ship weapons on all ships, yes anti-aircraft defense ?! Well, Kuznetsov was promised not to be sent to Middle-earth

          How do you know that there is nothing suitable? For example, I don’t know this, maybe not, or maybe there is ... and in general, what is the explanation for you ?! belay You’ll give a lift if you don’t, but if you’re there, they’ll strike, we’ll find out what is there ... laughing

          shl
          In general, your question sounds somehow strange ... or are you from the intelligence service that is looking for evidence in social networks? laughing
          1. clidon
            clidon 17 October 2015 23: 57 New
            +1
            Because the composition of the armament of ships in general is well known. No one has seen any surprises in the last 20 years.
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 20 October 2015 07: 31 New
              +1
              Surprise and surprise, so that for the time being, do not show it .. hi
          2. Lenin
            Lenin 19 October 2015 20: 53 New
            +3
            Yes, in principle, an ordinary civilian ship with containers on board can strike with us. And how many such cunning containers with missiles and where they travel, we do not know. wassat
        2. Nick
          Nick 17 October 2015 19: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: skeket
          Dear people, explain to me what will strike the Black Sea Fleet on ISIS, if there are anti-ship and prototype boats on all ships

          На ДЭПЛ проекта 636М установлены те самые "Калибры", что стартовали из акватории Каспия. А эти ДЭПЛ, как известно, производятся для ЧФ.
          1. clidon
            clidon 17 October 2015 23: 58 New
            +2
            Так они для этого должны хотя бы в Средиземное море пройти. А так да, если какая подлодка подойдёт то пульнуть "калибром" может. А смысл?
          2. atalef
            atalef 18 October 2015 08: 11 New
            +7
            Quote: Nick
            На ДЭПЛ проекта 636М установлены те самые "Калибры", что стартовали из акватории Каспия. А эти ДЭПЛ, как известно, производятся для ЧФ.

            Why beat with calibers if there is an air force?
            The air force is cheaper, more precisely, more mobile (I would say) the KR makes sense to use if there is anti-aircraft defense or the target is distant, that it is not possible to drive airplanes, and (in my opinion) it’s a waste of money.
            Even Mendeleev said, the stove can be heated and banknotes.
            All this company in Syria falls on the Russian budget, if the same result can be achieved easier and cheaper, why should the Caliber, and even drive the Navy for this?
            1. clidon
              clidon 18 October 2015 11: 37 New
              +1
              Gauges and the Navy (I won’t be surprised if strategic aviation is pulled up) is a demonstration of power and exercises in one bottle.
          3. netusa
            netusa 19 October 2015 10: 43 New
            +2
            Let's hope that in Crimea they will organize everything necessary for the production of ships equipped with the most accurate and killer missiles, sufficient for the THREAT of NATO !!!
        3. Sasha_Sar
          Sasha_Sar 19 October 2015 15: 05 New
          +1
          Крейсере "Москва" стоит "Базальт", который может пальнуть и по береговой цели
          1. clidon
            clidon 19 October 2015 16: 12 New
            0
            Там "Вулканы", а они как и "Базальты" чистые ПКР. Конечно ими можно стрельнуть по берегу, но цель должны быть прибрежная и размером с пароход. )
      4. Lenin
        Lenin 19 October 2015 20: 47 New
        0
        Mediterranean caviar ... laughing
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 17 October 2015 11: 05 New
      22
      "Генштаб ВС РФ: для ударов по ИГ может быть задействована средиземноморская группировка кораблей"
      Well, as they say: NECESSARY SO NECESSARY!
      1. Good me
        Good me 17 October 2015 11: 19 New
        +5
        Quote: Observer2014
        "Генштаб ВС РФ: для ударов по ИГ может быть задействована средиземноморская группировка кораблей"
        Well, as they say: NECESSARY SO NECESSARY!


        Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means of loading them?

        Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

        Одно дело, Каспий,"внутренне море", откуда до баз,"рукой подать", другое, путь на Русское море, через проливы,"туда-сюда"...
        1. Altona
          Altona 17 October 2015 11: 26 New
          +6
          Quote: Good Me
          Вопрос : Есть ли у нас в Тартусе склады с боеприпасами ? Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

          ------------------------
          Генерал просто озвучил, что мы можем применить все силы и средства, имеющиеся у Черноморского флота...И средств этих более чем достаточно, включая ударную морскую авиацию...Так что "наши партнёры" ещё смогут убедиться в достаточности наших возможностей...
          1. Good me
            Good me 17 October 2015 11: 33 New
            10
            Quote: Altona
            Quote: Good Me
            Вопрос : Есть ли у нас в Тартусе склады с боеприпасами ? Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

            ------------------------
            Генерал просто озвучил, что мы можем применить все силы и средства, имеющиеся у Черноморского флота...И средств этих более чем достаточно, включая ударную морскую авиацию...Так что "наши партнёры" ещё смогут убедиться в достаточности наших возможностей...


            Quote: BilliBoms09
            There are supply ships for this. Yes, and I think there is a stock in Tartus.


            But I didn’t write a comment just like that ... It was written in order to cause controversy in the subject, around the fact that when it all ends (the fight against ISIS), we just need to think, together with the leadership of the ATS, so that Tartus and other places can be turned into FULL BASES of the Navy, VKS, and possibly the Russian Marines ...

            1. BilliBoms09
              BilliBoms09 17 October 2015 11: 39 New
              +8
              It will just be necessary for us to think, together with the leadership of the SAR, on how to turn Tartus and other places into FULL BASES of the Navy, VKS, and possibly the Russian Marine Corps ...
              Yesterday, the media reported on the construction of a FULL BASE in Tartus! hi
              1. atalef
                atalef 18 October 2015 08: 13 New
                -1
                Quote: BilliBoms09
                Yesterday, the media reported on the construction of a FULL BASE in Tartus!

                Until Syria decides where and how, they will not build any base.
            2. ancient
              ancient 17 October 2015 11: 41 New
              +8
              Quote: Good Me
              The General simply announced that we can use all the forces and means available to the Black Sea Fleet ... And these funds are more than enough,


              Here dear Altona right + drinks

              Quote: Good Me
              including strike naval aviation ..


              And here request I would like to hear ... what is meant .. by this term? recourse
              1. Good me
                Good me 17 October 2015 11: 49 New
                +3
                Quote: ancient
                Quote: Good Me
                including strike naval aviation ..
                ----------------------------------
                And here I would like to hear ... what is meant ... by this term?


                Quote not from my comment request No.
              2. GSH-18
                GSH-18 17 October 2015 12: 06 New
                -4
                Quote: ancient
                And here I would like to hear request ... what do you mean ... by this term? recourse

                Мне думается, имеется ввиду палубная авиация ТАКР "Кузнецов". Но на мой взгляд она применяться не будет по территории САР, там и двух наземных авиабаз МО РФ достаточно. А вот ракетами морского базирования влупить могут-чисто показательно. Но меня беспокоит, что там слишком большие калибры.. На флагманском гвардейском крейсере ЧФ РФ "Москва" 16 ПКР П-1000 "Вулкан", каждая сверхзвуковая крылатая ракета весит более ШЕСТИ ТОНН! После такого "Калибры" вам покажутся детской шалостью. Одной такой ракетой можно легко уничтожить небольшой город. И это ещё не в ядерном исполнении! Так то..
                1. Wiruz
                  Wiruz 17 October 2015 12: 40 New
                  13
                  One such missile can easily destroy a small city. And this is not yet in nuclear performance!

                  Did you make jokes again? Weight warhead at the P-1000 500kg. Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.
                  1. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 17 October 2015 13: 17 New
                    0
                    Quote: Wiruz
                    Did you make jokes again? Weight warhead at the P-1000 500kg. Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.

                    Yes, yes .. Current ma total weight of 6 tons and it all flies to the target at supersonic speeds.
                    So for your reference, in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all lol But for some reason all of them are very vigilant.
                    1. Wiruz
                      Wiruz 17 October 2015 14: 50 New
                      +8
                      You know, I had five in physics, and yet I more than disagree with you.
                      1. Starley from the south
                        Starley from the south 19 October 2015 21: 12 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Wiruz
                        You know, I had five in physics, and yet I more than disagree with you.

                        Nevertheless, the kinetic energy of a supersonic projectile will make a considerable contribution. A city is not a city, but a small city will blow a shock wave.
                      2. igorka357
                        igorka357 20 October 2015 07: 35 New
                        0
                        Really rave))))
                      3. abrakadabre
                        abrakadabre 20 October 2015 08: 27 New
                        +1
                        You're dramatizing.
                        And about meteorites ... So there the speed is much higher. This means that kinetic energy is higher by a factor of several.
                  2. novobranets
                    novobranets 17 October 2015 16: 55 New
                    11
                    in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all
                    Голливудский фильмец "Армагеддон" видели? Вкратце сюжет-День первый. К Земле летит большой метеорит. Группа смельчаков высаживается на него с целью установить ядерный заряд.
                    Second day. A large meteorite with a nuclear charge flies to Earth ... laughing
                    1. Turkir
                      Turkir 19 October 2015 23: 18 New
                      +1
                      This is a witty solution to the question ..
                      Фильм в русском прокате следовало назвать "Армагездец по-американски".
                  3. atalef
                    atalef 18 October 2015 08: 16 New
                    +2
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    Yes, yes .. Current ma total weight of 6 tons and it all flies to the target at supersonic speeds.

                    yes
                    Does speed play a role?
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    So for your reference, in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all. But for some reason all of them are very vigilant.

                    And the bird flu virus is not visible at all. And fear, fear. wink
                    1. novobranets
                      novobranets 18 October 2015 14: 28 New
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      Does speed play a role?

                      Actually, yes.
                      characteristics of the railgun are ensured by a high initial velocity of the projectile - 2-2,5 km / s. At a speed of impact estimated at 1,6-1,7 km / s, the explosives released by the electric cannon do not require explosives to destroy the target.
                      When a projectile collides with an obstacle at this speed, such an amount of energy is released that an explosive will only hinder it. Well it is, in principle.
                  4. igorka357
                    igorka357 20 October 2015 07: 43 New
                    0
                    They are wandering ... and the rocket is wandering, but a five-ton meteorite if it reaches the ground will have a speed of about 4-5 km. S and this is twice as fast as the speed of the rocket, and it is much denser than the rocket! As for the nuclear charge, you are sure where you know that it will fly from the depths of space, YaZ or the plague of all centuries and peoples, and possibly the cthulhu himself! But the city, even if it’s not big, it will not be destroyed just like a rocket! A person hides from a large hail, but he He won’t kill him ... but no, it could have been killed ..)))!
                    1. abrakadabre
                      abrakadabre 20 October 2015 08: 29 New
                      0
                      This is not twice that of a rocket. And more - 4-5 times. So the energy will be 20-25 times more.
                    2. novobranets
                      novobranets 20 October 2015 14: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: igorka357
                      ! A man hides from a large hail, but he won’t kill him ... but no, there could be a chance to kill ..

                      In India, in 1963, an elephant was killed by a hailstones.
                2. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 18 October 2015 08: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Wiruz
                  Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.

                  Enough for that smile
              3. Altona
                Altona 17 October 2015 14: 46 New
                -1
                Quote: GSH-18
                Мне думается, имеется ввиду палубная авиация ТАКР "Кузнецов". Но на мой взгляд она применяться не будет по территории САР, там и двух наземных авиабаз МО РФ достаточно.

                ----------------------------
                Deck aviation is about nothing ... You can use the Tu-22M3 with cruise missiles from our southern bases ... But this is purely to demonstrate the capabilities ...
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 18 October 2015 08: 03 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Altona
                  .You can use the Tu-22M3 with cruise missiles from our southern bases ...

                  And who will miss him?
            3. zyablik.olga
              zyablik.olga 19 October 2015 13: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Altona
              including strike naval aviation ..

              Quote: ancient
              And here I would like to hear the request ... what is meant .. under this term?

              У нас осталась "ударная морская авиация"? what
        2. Oman 47
          Oman 47 17 October 2015 15: 51 New
          +8
          How do you see the use of Black Sea Fleet aviation in Syria ?!

          Through the territory of Turkey, or what ??? belay
          1. Altona
            Altona 17 October 2015 17: 05 New
            -3
            Quote: Oman 47
            Through the territory of Turkey, or what ???

            ----------------------------
            What for? We can shoot with lionfish without leaving our airspace ... In the same way, through Iran and Iraq ...
            1. Oman 47
              Oman 47 17 October 2015 18: 48 New
              +4
              Cruise missiles through SPACE (airless space) will go ???
              Or - still through the territory of Turkey???! fellow request

              You can look at the map of the region and offer specific route?!


              Similarly, through Iran and Iraq ...

              From the Black Sea - through Iran and Iraq ????!

              Ahhh, got it!
              From now on, from ANY point of Russia, the road to Moscow lies exclusively through Vladivostok !!! belay good request
              1. Altona
                Altona 17 October 2015 19: 51 New
                0
                Quote: Oman 47
                From the Black Sea - through Iran and Iraq ????

                ------------------
                Do you think a plane is a static thing? Can't he fly to the Caspian Sea? Or do you have a monopoly on the truth? From the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea, the distance is fie ... But you actually stumbled on Turkey ...
                P.S. Вообще то, когда я писал про "залп правым бортом Черноморского флота" мне тоже минусов понаставили стратеги типа "Оман 47"...Они же всегда в курсе всего, они думают, что сверхдержава должна бегать с Калашниковым наперевес, ну в крайнем случае с танком или самолетом...Фантазии-ноль...В том числе и военно-дипломатической...Они полагают, что и Турция-супердержава, не имеющая равных во Вселенной...
                1. Oman 47
                  Oman 47 17 October 2015 23: 04 New
                  +1
                  "...Но вы вообще то упоротый на Турции...
                  мне тоже минусов понаставили стратеги типа "Оман 47"...Они же всегда в курсе всего......Фантазии-ноль...В том числе и военно-дипломатической..."


                  Dear Altona, such TON in normal discussion is ordinary TURNBINNESS OF TRAM.
                  Moreover, the correspondence rudeness a priori DOESN'T SUCH BOLD!
                  Would your Marshal Excellency try to tell me or any normal man such a person?
                  Each YOUNG (judging by the manner of conversation), imagining himself a MARSHAL! (spit on virtual epaulettes) and a military STRATEG and DIPLOMAT (Lavrov and Churkin just nervously smoke in the shadow of GREAT ALTONA! belay ) WILL be rude ??????!
                  Shcha! How so ...

                  Young man, epaulets (any, but real!) Had to wear ???! I see - no, otherwise the level of Doubt would be a little lower, STRATEG you are our greatest of all times and the peoples of the CIS, PUP of the Russian and Chuvash lands separately, lover of pluses. request

                  PS Normal people - argue their position.

                  PPS It’s possible to meet VERY MUCH ... The face is open. IP is known, the address is easy.

                  Hamit - NOT WORTH.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 18 October 2015 12: 09 New
                    0
                    Quote: Oman 47
                    PS Normal people - argue their position.

                    -------------------
                    They all argued for you in normal type ... Write in capsule, and even in bold type-badge ... For your information, the bombers in the Crimea belonged to the Mediterranean grouping, this was their area of ​​responsibility ...
                    1. Oman 47
                      Oman 47 18 October 2015 23: 53 New
                      0
                      "Что сказать, когда НЕЧЕГО СКАЗАТЬ!" - эту фразу произносит массовка на съемках фильма, - для создания видимости речи (деятельности).
                      I said that I said (above), and was heard.
                      Everyone is fully responsible for their words and actions; in any case, a normal man.
                    2. Oman 47
                      Oman 47 19 October 2015 00: 30 New
                      +1
                      It is strange that graduates of the Academy of the General Staff, large military leaders with STRATEGIC thinking, belay - They have no idea about such a navy formation as the 5th operational squadron.
                      BS bearing area - Mediterranean.
                      PS: it was completed far from not only and not so much from the forces and means of the Black Sea Fleet.
                2. Oman 47
                  Oman 47 18 October 2015 00: 26 New
                  -1
                  DEAR ALTONA,
                  run around my closest comments and put a stealthy minus AFTER SPEAKED - LOW! MEN - DECENTLY.
                  Мне на "минусики" и "плюсики" - глубоко наплевать (в отличие от вашего сиятельства). Чукча - не писатель; чукча - читатель.

                  Relatives in the country of the Selected Exceptional - ISRAEL - not available ???!
                  Judging by the method of action - enough. Then - no questions. Simply: A PITABLE SMALL POC, A SMALL SHOWER - NOT A MAN.
      2. BilliBoms09
        BilliBoms09 17 October 2015 11: 26 New
        +3
        Вопрос : Есть ли у нас в Тартусе склады с боеприпасами ? Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?
        There are supply ships for this. Yes, and I think there is a stock in Tartus.
      3. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 17 October 2015 11: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Good Me
        Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

        Well, yes, there are some suckers ...
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 17 October 2015 12: 01 New
        14
        "Добрый Я"
        Приветствую вас коллега .Вы прям меня сегодня по сайту "преследуете"Ха ха ха мы с вами часом не знакомы?
        Теперь о серьёзном."Есть ли у нас в Тартусе склады с боеприпасами ?Средства их погрузки ?

        Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?
        I think that this issue has been resolved. Since our General Staff (I’m afraid to jinx it) The last few years have simply surprised everyone with their absolutely thoughtful actions. And in my words there is not a drop in the catch.
      5. Rostislav
        Rostislav 17 October 2015 12: 10 New
        0
        To demonstrate the ability does not mean to use up all the ammunition immediately on the objectives of the IG. They, these goals, still need to be scouted in the right amount to use up everything.
      6. Eragon
        Eragon 17 October 2015 12: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Good Me
        Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

        In fact, the ship itself is a floating ammunition depot. Imagine what the Mediterranean squadron means FULLY Shot BK. Yes there half of Syria will be erased. In the second half, you can go on a reload.
      7. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 17 October 2015 14: 55 New
        +2
        In the next branch they prove that even AUG would not be a problem for us to supply at least 5000 miles.
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 17 October 2015 16: 42 New
          +2
          And what is the fundamental problem? Tankers, supply vessels canceled?
      8. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 17 October 2015 15: 03 New
        +2
        Yes, and in the Caspian it seems like having shot ammunition, the ships went to the base, and it is not clear when the continuation will follow ...
        Quote: Good I
        Quote: Observer2014
        "Генштаб ВС РФ: для ударов по ИГ может быть задействована средиземноморская группировка кораблей"
        Well, as they say: NECESSARY SO NECESSARY!


        Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means of loading them?

        Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

        Одно дело, Каспий,"внутренне море", откуда до баз,"рукой подать", другое, путь на Русское море, через проливы,"туда-сюда"...
      9. Serg65
        Serg65 17 October 2015 17: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Good Me
        : Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means of loading them?

        Most likely not, at least during the Union, they did not plan or build one.
        Quote: Good Me
        Или, расстреляв БК, нашей группировке придётся "чесать" домой,"перезаряжаться" ?

        Ну за чем же так печально? Хоть ЧФ и пострадал в предыдущие года в плане сокращения корабельного и судового состава, но на сегодня имеет два Морских Транспорта Вооружения, МТВ "Генерал Рябиков" и бывший турецкий транспорт "Kemah" а ныне Военный Транспорт "Двиница-50". Вот они и будут питать эскадру боепитанием.
    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 17 October 2015 11: 22 New
      +1
      Россию всегда обвиняли , что мы неповоротливые и нет в нас хватки в "коммерческих " делах... Слишком наивны и доверчивы..! Но Мы это компенсируем в военном плане обычно (и деньги обычно все забираем)))) И мы сейчас покажем , как это делается реально! Все будет просчитано и в точку..Это наша стихия!Вот такие дела господа в Каспийской флотилии.... bully
  2. vovanpain
    vovanpain 17 October 2015 11: 09 New
    15
    A good hint to all barkers about Russia in the region. And the shaitans must be beaten by all means until they go to hell.
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 17 October 2015 11: 11 New
    +2
    Here is the garne


    R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi день добрый. - ты уже на "мову" переходишь? laughing
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 17 October 2015 11: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Here is the garne


      R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi день добрый. - ты уже на "мову" переходишь? laughing

      Good Day Nikolai ... Alas, yes! Still worried about Ukrainians (relatives by any means))))) They’re just shouting bastards, Russia attacked .. But she didn’t think so, the devils are wet in Syria, and in Ukraine there are a lot of them too! hi
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 17 October 2015 11: 34 New
        +2
        I’m also worried, there are a lot of relatives, that I’m from Poltava, that I’m from the Crimea (now ours) - I’m also watching their news - I’ve started to learn a little language :)))
    2. Abakan
      Abakan 18 October 2015 05: 15 New
      +1
      wait)) after the ruin of the mov after Syria in Arabic))) it’s normal, so we’ll become polyglot hi
  4. GSH-18
    GSH-18 17 October 2015 11: 50 New
    0
    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS

    А чем лупить то будем? Если Крейсер "Москва" влупит, то можно будет недосчитаться приличного куска Сирии. Там ПКР посерьёзнее "Калибров".
    1. clidon
      clidon 17 October 2015 23: 56 New
      0
      А чем там может "влупить" крейсер "Москва"? Своими 130мм пушками разве что... Пока туда не подойдёт "Кузнецов" или какая АПЛ с Северного флота, средиземноморская эскадра сможет артиллерией пугать прибрежных исламистов.
      1. Nikotin13
        Nikotin13 18 October 2015 00: 08 New
        +1
        16 installations ,, Volcano ,, just ... a real trifle, you do not even take it seriously. wink
        1. clidon
          clidon 18 October 2015 00: 19 New
          +5
          "Вулканы" это сверхзвуковые ПКР. Вы ими корабли ИГИЛ собрались топить? Для этого им нужно их будет вначале продать или построить. )
  5. varov14
    varov14 17 October 2015 14: 58 New
    +2
    Kohl the Syrians allowed, it is necessary to burn out the infection indicatively so that no one relaxes, to take an example from Amerov. There will be less reporting, and even more justifying oneself, there will be more benefits and sanctions will be quickly lifted.
  6. marlin1203
    marlin1203 17 October 2015 15: 12 New
    +5
    А чем они стрелять будут? Носителей крылатых ракет там у нас нет. Москва возможно "Вулканом" и пальнет, но это же пкр. Там и дальность стрельбы меньше, да и не слышал я никогда об использовании этого комплекса "по берегу". Остальные вообще ракето-торпедами вооружены против пл, в просторечном военно-морском цензурном переводе "аэродинамичнское недоразумение". Так что максимум - артиллерия, ну ПВО прикрытие. Так что надо срочно гнать "гепардов" или пл с крылатыми ракетами soldier
  7. victor
    victor 17 October 2015 16: 42 New
    +1
    Garno. Duzhe. But! Without ground destruction (mopping up) of militants, nothing will happen ...
  • sl22277
    sl22277 17 October 2015 11: 06 New
    +8
    They can and I think they will. By what methods terrorism will be destroyed does not play a special role. Especially if terrorists have MANPADS or their Analogs.
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 17 October 2015 11: 06 New
    +8
    "Где-то" "Кто-то" сидит в ночи и читает доклады...

  • cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 17 October 2015 11: 06 New
    +1
    I think it's time for them to strike at ISIS, and ours will train and help Syria. soldier
  • gispanec
    gispanec 17 October 2015 11: 07 New
    +6
    except for artifact, there is nothing to naughty on the shore ... now if the Warsaw is hiding nearby ..... then yes ....
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 17 October 2015 11: 24 New
      15
      Вот только хотел об этом написать . На кораблях у берегов Сирии по берегу работать просто нечем , тч Картаполов просто запутывал и запугивал вероятного противника. Калибры поблизости стоят только на дэпл Новороссийск и на двух мрк , которые проходят испытания в Черном море. Новороссийск сейчас на покраске в Севастополе , мрк еще не приняты. Однако к концу года все может измениться . Начинает переход на ЧФ вторая варшавянка "Ростов на Дону", 2 мрк «Серпухов» и «Зеленый Дол» завершат испытания и войдут в состав ЧФ . Скорее всего пройдут испытания и начнут переход 2 фрегата 11356. На всех них стоят калибры , хотя шмалять ими направо и налево вряд ли будут . Все что надо мы всем показали , а работать проще, удобнее и дешевле фронтовой авиацией. Флот в Средиземке же в первую очередь для защиты от матрасников и турок , а не против ИГ.
    2. Penetrator
      Penetrator 17 October 2015 11: 29 New
      -3
      Quote: gispanec
      except for artifact, there is nothing to grind on the shore ...

      А "Вулканы" на флагмане ЧФ это вам баран начхал? Пол-тонны масса БЧ, 700 км. дальность и 16 штук в залпе. Дороговато, конечно, но что щас дешево?
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 17 October 2015 12: 17 New
        +5
        Volcanoes are the same PCR. They are not intended for work on the ground. They can, of course, get smack, but the accuracy of hitting the target will never be provided. So it’s like hammering nails with a microscope.
        1. Penetrator
          Penetrator 17 October 2015 13: 07 New
          +1
          Ошибаетесь, как раз у ПКР точность достойная. Перемещающийся корабельный ордер гораздо более трудная цель, чем статичные наземные объекты. А вот с тем, что их применение против сухопутных целей подобно "гвозди микроскопом забивать", согласен. Хотя может срок окончания эксплуатации изделий подходит - могут и шмальнуть, в целях утилизации smile
          1. Samaritan
            Samaritan 17 October 2015 13: 42 New
            +3
            For reference: The control and guidance system is an inertial missile control system with correction according to the GOS radar data. The selection of targets is probably either automatic or by the principle of telecontrol (by the ship operator according to the missile’s radar data) or combined.
          2. donavi49
            donavi49 17 October 2015 13: 53 New
            +4
            RCC type P-500 / P-700 provide the destruction of typical radio-contrast ground targets such as Port / Plant NABCH. For a conventional warhead, accuracy is not ensured.

            In the Mediterranean Sea, only Moscow can nominally strike at ground targets with missile weapons - SKR Ladny and Inquisitive missile torpedoes cannot strike (there are two final modes - a torpedo release or a final correction and platoon warhead torpedo directly on a rocket).

            X-35 have their own crutch and can be used for point-to-point ground targets (a large warehouse / factory / high-rise level) - however, on the Shrewd only a container, there are no missiles there. Even the wiring is not failed.


            However, in theory, strikes from the Mediterranean can be delivered by forces:
            - Novorossiysk
            - Two 21631 RTOs undergoing tests, but they must be carried out to Middle-earth, which is not yet available.
            1. ydjin
              ydjin 18 October 2015 02: 39 New
              +1
              Of course, I wildly apologize, but what if we assume that there are containers with clubs on the Mediterranean group of the Russian Navy? Type put on the deck a few 40 foot containers just in case ?! laughingИли как вариант парочка "мирных" контейнеровозов балкеров послали на боевое дежурство? angry
          3. Serg65
            Serg65 17 October 2015 18: 10 New
            +4
            Quote: Penetrator
            they can make fun of it, for recycling purposes

            Nah, well, shmalnut then of course you can and maybe the GOS will take some sort of bunker for the ship what . Но "Москва" останется без БК главного калибра, а это не есть хорошо. В условиях береговой базы что бы перезарядить "Москву" (все 16 ракет) 1.5-2 суток уйдёт.
  • svp67
    svp67 17 October 2015 11: 07 New
    +6
    Russian ships in the Mediterranean Sea can strike at IS facilities in Syria at any time,
    Yes, yes ... you need to check the effectiveness of all systems, but here is the opportunity to combine the two utilities ...
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 17 October 2015 11: 10 New
    +7
    It makes no sense to strike without support from a ground operation - the aircraft will cope, all the more so since the decrease in the number of sorties makes one think of reducing the number of reconnaissance targets, so if we hear missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, we can safely say that the second stage of the UAR offensive began ...
    1. Good me
      Good me 17 October 2015 12: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      It makes no sense to strike without support from a ground operation - aviation can handle it, all the more so a decrease in the number of departures suggests an idea of ​​reducing the number of explored targets, so if we hear missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, we can safely say that the second stage of the offensive of the ATS army began ...


      Sergey Gololobov

      "Выбирать цели в Сирии стало труднее" 17 Октября, 2015 г. 08:28

      Вооруженные силы Сирии развивают наступательные операции против террористических формирований. Как сообщил представитель вооруженных сил Сирийской Арабской Республики бригадный генерал Али Майхуб, операции проводятся одновременно с точными воздушными ударами сирийских ВВС и с использованием результатов ударов российских самолетов по террористам. В течение трех прошедших дней, по словам генерала, оперативные усилия были сосредоточены на различных направлениях. В южном регионе части и подразделения ВС Сирии начали военную операцию в кварталах Джобар и Хараста района Восточная Гута в предместье Дамаска. Разбиты командные пункты и узлы связи террористов, многие из них уничтожены. На связи со студией - спецкор радио "Вести ФМ" Сергей Гололобов.

      Listen fully in the audio version.


      http://radiovesti.ru/article/show/article_id/180449
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 October 2015 08: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      a decrease in the number of departures suggests an idea of ​​reducing the number of explored targets

      Or a decrease in the effectiveness of strikes - cockroaches spread across settlements, and there are completely peaceful ones.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 October 2015 08: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        Or a decrease in the effectiveness of strikes - cockroaches spread across settlements, and there are completely peaceful ones.

        Well, of course, the target bank has decreased and of course the bandits left for the cities (which was understandable)
        The rest is already visible in rhetoric.
        Putin said last week that the SSA could be brought into the coalition, and yesterday that leaving Assad personally was not the goal.
        While the situation is developing (as I expected in the scenario)
        1. The militants left for the cities
        2. The CCA will provide MANPADS and air defense systems to eliminate strikes on them (which happened)
        3. The advance of Assad’s troops - it will be very slow and only in areas with a Christian and Alawite population (more precisely, where they lived)
        4. The West and the United States will sit quietly and wait for more and more drawing Russia into the conflict.
  • Guntruck
    Guntruck 17 October 2015 11: 11 New
    +3
    They will now be hiding peacefully, and what else to expect from these ghouls.
    We will see how our aviation will work in these conditions that have already changed. I hope that it is no less effective than at the beginning of the operation.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 October 2015 11: 12 New
    +4
    If such a statement is made, then such actions are planned. As they say - God is to help.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 October 2015 11: 14 New
    +5
    Это больше пугают. Вот ежели из Черного моря. Чтобы над Турцией прошли. Чтобы янычары тоже поняли, что нет у них никаких ПВО, и никакие "Иджилисы" полосатеньких им не помогут. А то что то много выступать стали. Пора напомнить, что гора Арарат не всегда на турецкой территории находилась. И что у них пятая часть населения - курды, которых они давили и давят много лет.
  • Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 17 October 2015 11: 18 New
    +5
    Janissaries are not Turks.
  • BLOND
    BLOND 17 October 2015 11: 20 New
    +2
    “Can the grouping of Russian ships in the Mediterranean Sea, if necessary, be involved in operations in Syria,” the general replied: “Absolutely.”
    какое красивое слово "Безусловно" (и ТОЧКА после него)
  • Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 17 October 2015 11: 21 New
    +3
    Очень разумный вариант - и экипажи тренируются, и оружие обкатывается, и сирийцам помощь, и "партнёрам" - урок наглядный. Нужны только цели соответствующие, чтобы не из пушки по одному бородатому воробью. Так что после обнаружения достойных целей мы, скорее всего, узнаем и про работу средиземноморской группировки нашего ВМФ.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 October 2015 11: 22 New
    +4
    I wonder what this group will strike?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 17 October 2015 13: 06 New
      +1
      She will destroy them morally. Not capable of anything more. Well, unless of course Severodvinsk in those waters does not swim
  • roskot
    roskot 17 October 2015 11: 23 New
    +3
    After such a statement, we are preparing to listen to the choir of Western European singers.
  • Oman 47
    Oman 47 17 October 2015 11: 24 New
    +6
    fellow The Navy has enough missiles with suitable for the finish life.

    BEST DISPOSAL METHOD! wassat
  • rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 17 October 2015 11: 24 New
    +9
    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS
    Another horror movie for Obama
  • KnightRider
    KnightRider 17 October 2015 11: 28 New
    +3
    Неплохо было бы "Северодвинску" отстреляться крылатыми ракетами из Средиземки... Мечты, мечты...но картинка была бы зрелищной, а на Нато это произвело бы куда больший эффект, чем недавняя стрельба из Каспия
  • Hubun
    Hubun 17 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +2
    Well, if we also with the Mediterranean smell, the howl will rise to heaven
    1. alex80
      alex80 17 October 2015 14: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Hubun
      Well, if we also with the Mediterranean smell, the howl will rise to heaven

      Let's be realistic! Today, given the composition of the ships in the Mediterranean, there’s simply nothing to shoot at coastal targets from there. sad Первый выход "Новороссийска" на боевое дежурство намечен на апрель 2016 и речь пока шла только о Черном море. "Григорович" только начал прохождение госиспытаний. "Калибры" есть только на недавно прибывших на ЧФ Буянах: "Серпухов" и "Зеленый Дол", но они пока в НМБ и о том, чтобы послать их в Средиземку речи пока не было. АПЛ "Северодвинск" на СФ. Так что бить пока из Средиземки по суше нам нечем.
      On ships and aircraft we can, but not on land.
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 17 October 2015 11: 41 New
    0
    Quote: DEZINTO
    "Где-то" "Кто-то" сидит в ночи и читает доклады...



    Сдаётся мне , что чел этот штанишки шушит . ВСЕ , ВСЕ могучие флоты сша на ноль умножены одним залпом всего-навсего Каспийской Флотилии . Молчать , шпендики , а то "Буян-М" разбуянится , да не один . Это что же на крейсере "Москва" заряжено? Ё , а сколько дизельных ПЛ там в наличии ? На месте бабуиныча я бы сказал : "ОЙ!". И в колорадо , бегом .
  • Million
    Million 17 October 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    It’s also true! Why take risks with airplanes if such a threat arises
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 17 October 2015 12: 26 New
    0
    Quote: KnightRider
    Неплохо было бы "Северодвинску" отстреляться крылатыми ракетами из Средиземки... Мечты, мечты...но картинка была бы зрелищной, а на Нато это произвело бы куда больший эффект, чем недавняя стрельба из Каспия


    ПЛ в запасе , а вот "медведей" бы задействовать , пульнуть бы , есть чем , это тема . Мочить недоносков - головы людям режут - это что??? Ай , не зли русских мужиков . "Spasibo,RUSSIA!"- орут человеки , надо свой интерес блюсти - нефть должна быть по соточке . Точка . И тогда ручонки вывернем всем .
  • Zumich
    Zumich 17 October 2015 12: 31 New
    +3
    When the time comes to engage our Russian grouping in the Mediterranean Sea, submarine missile launches with submarines would have to be worked out so that the bandits and the United States coalition would not only have their withers but also panties wet.
    It seems that they have already crossed over at the mention: Russia-Putin, Assad-resignation, everything, then a complete stupor.
    As they say: I hear, but do not listen, and I speak, but I do not understand what was said.
  • prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 17 October 2015 12: 48 New
    +3
    I want to go back to the Army, use the Iskander !!!
  • mitrich
    mitrich 17 October 2015 13: 21 New
    0
    С кораблей уже ударили, надо для эффекту ещё и из подлодок, в подводном положении, шмальнуть. На Варшавянках б/к Калибров не велик, посему лучше с АПЛ, вроде у нас уже две такие рыбки в строю. Подогнать в Атлантике к Геркулесовым столпам, и с наружи, через всю Средиземку разнести разведанные базы анти-ассадовской про-американской "умеренной оппозиции" умеренными Калибрами. Вот это будет настоящий "Шок и трепет", а не шняга как у амеров. И реальная учёба наших подводников. Три в одной подлодке)).
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 October 2015 13: 58 New
    0
    There are no gauges on the ships. There is only RCC. You can only aircraft carrier to fit and fly.
  • alex80
    alex80 17 October 2015 14: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: Wiruz
    Did you make jokes again? Weight warhead at the P-1000 500kg. Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.

    Yes, yes .. Current ma total weight of 6 tons and it all flies to the target at supersonic speeds.
    So for your reference, in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all lol But for some reason all of them are very vigilant.

    Excuse me, are you going to use anti-ship missiles against ground targets? hi
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 17 October 2015 14: 53 New
    0
    В этом случае 26 "Калибрами" дело явно не ограничится. От террористов не останется и мокрого места.
  • slizhov
    slizhov 17 October 2015 15: 00 New
    +3
    ISHILIANS WITH ITS GANGS ARE CREATED IN ORDER TO TEST ON THEM ALL WEAPONS, INCLUDING AND INSTALLED ON OUR NAVY.
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 17 October 2015 16: 15 New
    +4
    I’ve heard about the shadow government, but now I’m watching, the shadow GS is already working, moreover, it’s online.
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  • exalex2
    exalex2 18 October 2015 04: 20 New
    +2
    It is clear that we will win .. But why so much joy from the fact that we are at war .. Another stupidity, and nothing more.
  • marder4
    marder4 18 October 2015 07: 15 New
    0
    but this is quite interesting
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 October 2015 08: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: marder4
      but this is quite interesting

      What do not you understand? Only a person with an abnormal psyche can enjoy the war.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 18 October 2015 16: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        Only a person with an abnormal psyche can enjoy the war.

        Well, one was found - put a minus, then I do not agree. Maybe they will catch up ...
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 18 October 2015 10: 17 New
    0
    Слово "победа" в подобных войнах понятие относительное. Главное знать какие цели мы хотим достигнуть. И достигать их.
  • Old26
    Old26 18 October 2015 11: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: marlin1203
    Так что надо срочно гнать "гепардов" или пл с крылатыми ракетами


    No "Гепардов", "Гепарда". Он один в наличии на Каспии, второй имеет на вооружении "Ураны". Лодка тоже одна. И пока на боевую службу и не собирается. Ремонт после межфлотовского перехода. Так что максимум, что можно туда "пригнать" - это один единственный "Дагестан"

    Quote: gispanec
    except for art, there’s nothing to naughty on the shore ... if
    Warsaw is hiding nearby ..... then yes ....


    “Is Varshavyanka hiding?” Yes, let him hide. The benefits are 0,0. In the three fleets (BF, Black Sea Fleet, Northern Fleet) there are only 5 navigable, all of them are Project 877, which are without Caliber. The only one with Caliber is being repaired in Sevastopol.

    Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    После 26 ракет из Каспия европоиды бросились с линейкой замерять расстояния от акваторий Черного, Балтийского, Средиземного, Северного морей, Бискайского залива Атлантики до своих территорий. А тут ещё появилась информация о наличии у России ПОДВОДНЫХ ДРОНОВ с ЯЗ, способных ОБНУЛИТЬ порты, военные базы и вообще сделать бесполезным ВМФ НАТО! А 2-х месячная невидимая подо льдом "прогулка" АПЛ с многозначительным названием "Юрий Долгорукий", способная доставить ЯЗ в любую точку Земного шара! Как же "наши партнёры" завиляли задами, просто хор Борисов Моисееввых!


    In fact, the stuffing about drones was a month earlier. And not argued by anything. Many bought ...

    A two-month hike under the ice - what's so unusual? Or do you think that the "adversary" boats with ballistic missiles are not there? Able to deliver YabZ to anywhere in the world? Why events of epoch-making significance are made from an ordinary campaign are not clear. Or before this, no one has walked and doesn’t walk under the ice from our strategists? Or do the Americans not?

    Quote: mitrich
    On Varshavyanki, the caliber of caliber is not great, therefore it is better with nuclear submarines, like we already have two such fish in the ranks.

    Nuclear submarine with Caliber? Must upset. One. Severodvinsk
  • Old26
    Old26 18 October 2015 11: 09 New
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    Quote: alex80
    Quote: Hubun
    Well, if we also with the Mediterranean smell, the howl will rise to heaven

    Let's be realistic! Today, given the composition of the ships in the Mediterranean, there’s simply nothing to shoot at coastal targets from there. sad Первый выход "Новороссийска" на боевое дежурство намечен на апрель 2016 и речь пока шла только о Черном море. "Григорович" только начал прохождение госиспытаний. "Калибры" есть только на недавно прибывших на ЧФ Буянах: "Серпухов" и "Зеленый Дол", но они пока в НМБ и о том, чтобы послать их в Средиземку речи пока не было. АПЛ "Северодвинск" на СФ. Так что бить пока из Средиземки по суше нам нечем.
    On ships and aircraft we can, but not on land.

    That's right. Nothing.

    Quote: mitrich
    Подогнать в Атлантике к Геркулесовым столпам, и с наружи, через всю Средиземку разнести разведанные базы анти-ассадовской про-американской "умеренной оппозиции" умеренными Калибрами.

    Wow. And by order of magnitude, set the range of calibers to 5000 km? Well, at least they looked at the map before writing this. God forbid, he will get to Tunisia with an ordinary BG, and with special units he will not reach Crete. And further on the well-known expression? "Сначала шла сколько может, а потом сколько прикажут"???
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  • Mentat
    Mentat 18 October 2015 16: 09 New
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    Quote: atalef
    and yesterday that leaving Assad personally is not the goal

    In fact, Putin has stated this more than once, and not "yesterday", that the goal of Russia in Syria is to maintain statehood, and who will be the head of state will decide the Syrian people.

    It seems that you constantly participate in discussions on the site, follow the events. What, do not keep track of or suffer from small nonsense?
  • Mentat
    Mentat 18 October 2015 17: 36 New
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    atalef, are you petty shitting the minuses without answering the obvious facts or are there still fighters with reality?
    1. Oman 47
      Oman 47 19 October 2015 00: 16 New
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      Yes, yes! (see comments above).
      The circus still did not think to leave, and the clowns - for two staffing!
  • zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 19 October 2015 13: 39 New
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    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Quote: Altona
    including strike naval aviation ..

    Quote: ancient
    And here I would like to hear the request ... what is meant .. under this term?

    У нас осталась "ударная морская авиация"? what

    All Tu-22М3 removed from naval aviation several years ago.
  • serg2108
    serg2108 20 October 2015 00: 29 New
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    what it would be necessary to run 100 ku calibers at once and see what will happen in the west and in the world, the show of the century is for sure laughing
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    Sergey242 20 October 2015 01: 36 New
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  • Wise Kaa
    Wise Kaa 20 October 2015 08: 32 New
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    Once they said that they could use the Mediterranean squadron, then most likely its application is not included in the plans ... They decided to scare the West through the media once again, also not unnecessary, more often ...
  • Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 20 October 2015 08: 51 New
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    Всем - "Здравствуйте!"
    Every day the development of events is becoming more and more interesting!
    Ждём,с реакции "партнёров"? )))
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 20 October 2015 09: 24 New
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    The reaction of partners, as usual, will be dumbfounded by the smell ..... What is from the mouth, what from the panties ....
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