The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS

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Russian ships located in the Mediterranean Sea can at any time strike at IG facilities in Syria, reports RIA News the message of the Chief of Operations Department of the General Staff Andrei Karpapolov.



When asked by a journalist, “can a group of Russian ships in the Mediterranean, if necessary, be involved in actions in Syria,” the general replied: “Certainly.”

"Russia can at any time rocket attacks from its ships on the positions of the IG in Syria, if so decided the command" - he added.

According to the General Staff, the terrorists in Syria are suffering significant losses, and so far most of the weapons have been lost on the front lines. In this regard, they change tactics, dispersing their forces in the settlements, where they hide from air strikes.
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  1. +76
    17 October 2015 11: 03
    Here is the garne .. Let’s check this direction too!
    1. +40
      17 October 2015 11: 05
      The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS

      Dvizhuha went dancing U-se !!!
      1. +12
        17 October 2015 11: 18

        “Russia can at any time launch missile strikes from its ships on IS positions in Syria, if the command decides so”
        It is right to show "potential partners" that the Mediterranean grouping of Russian Navy ships is not for show-off. But it can also carry out combat missions assigned by the command.
        1. +14
          17 October 2015 14: 20
          It's time to start testing vacuum bombs on terrorists! "Daddy of all bombs"!
          1. +2
            18 October 2015 13: 28
            It's time.
          2. wow
            +3
            19 October 2015 16: 42
            Actually, we used ODAB-500 in Afghanistan, in 87-88. Ochchchchen helps to clean the brain!
            1. +2
              19 October 2015 20: 50
              I mean to clean? You probably meant the catch phrase to brainwash? Because they will be exactly wornlaughing
          3. 0
            19 October 2015 20: 48
            So they have already been tested, after Afghanistan is banned.
          4. +1
            20 October 2015 00: 26
            it’s not the right time, it was necessary to test it yesterday ... wink
      2. +17
        17 October 2015 12: 00
        Quote: Bone
        Dvizhuha went dancing U-se !!!

        A Mediterranean squadron was being formed, which was in Soviet times (5 squadron). And this is not temporary, but, I am sure, on an ongoing basis. This is pleasing. I think this squadron will still show itself.
        1. 0
          20 October 2015 07: 29
          Seriously...)))? Do you know about the strength of the 5th OPESK and its combat capabilities ..)))? I’m an ardent patriot and I love my homeland, but unfortunately I’ll succeed in collecting something similar to the 5th OPESK! Several formations enter the operational squadron, though .. if from all fleets as before .. then maybe it’s possible!
      3. +4
        17 October 2015 17: 33
        Quote: Bone
        Dvizhuha went dancing U-se !!!

        Dear people, explain to me what will strike the Black Sea Fleet on ISIS, if there are anti-ship and anti-ship weapons on all ships, yes anti-aircraft defense ?! Well, Kuznetsov was promised not to be sent to Middle-earth
        1. +7
          17 October 2015 18: 39
          Quote: skeket
          Dear people, explain to me what will strike the Black Sea Fleet on ISIS, if there are anti-ship and anti-ship weapons on all ships, yes anti-aircraft defense ?! Well, Kuznetsov was promised not to be sent to Middle-earth

          How do you know that there is nothing suitable? For example, I don’t know this, maybe not, or maybe there is ... and in general, what is the explanation for you ?! belay You’ll give a lift if you don’t, but if you’re there, they’ll strike, we’ll find out what is there ... laughing

          shl
          In general, your question sounds somehow strange ... or are you from the intelligence service that is looking for evidence in social networks? laughing
          1. +1
            17 October 2015 23: 57
            Because the composition of the armament of ships in general is well known. No one has seen any surprises in the last 20 years.
            1. +1
              20 October 2015 07: 31
              Surprise and surprise, so that for the time being, do not show it .. hi
          2. +3
            19 October 2015 20: 53
            Yes, in principle, an ordinary civilian ship with containers on board can strike with us. And how many such cunning containers with missiles and where they travel, we do not know. wassat
        2. +3
          17 October 2015 19: 36
          Quote: skeket
          Dear people, explain to me what will strike the Black Sea Fleet on ISIS, if there are anti-ship and prototype boats on all ships

          The diesel-electric submarines of project 636M are equipped with the same "Calibers" that were launched from the Caspian Sea. And these diesel-electric submarines, as you know, are produced for the Black Sea Fleet.
          1. +2
            17 October 2015 23: 58
            So for this they must at least go to the Mediterranean Sea. And so yes, if any submarine is suitable, then it can be fired with a "caliber". What's the point?
          2. +7
            18 October 2015 08: 11
            Quote: Nick
            The diesel-electric submarines of project 636M are equipped with the same "Calibers" that were launched from the Caspian Sea. And these diesel-electric submarines, as you know, are produced for the Black Sea Fleet.

            Why beat with calibers if there is an air force?
            The air force is cheaper, more precisely, more mobile (I would say) the KR makes sense to use if there is anti-aircraft defense or the target is distant, that it is not possible to drive airplanes, and (in my opinion) it’s a waste of money.
            Even Mendeleev said, the stove can be heated and banknotes.
            All this company in Syria falls on the Russian budget, if the same result can be achieved easier and cheaper, why should the Caliber, and even drive the Navy for this?
            1. +1
              18 October 2015 11: 37
              Gauges and the Navy (I won’t be surprised if strategic aviation is pulled up) is a demonstration of power and exercises in one bottle.
          3. +2
            19 October 2015 10: 43
            Let's hope that in Crimea they will organize everything necessary for the production of ships equipped with the most accurate and killer missiles, sufficient for the THREAT of NATO !!!
        3. +1
          19 October 2015 15: 05
          The cruiser "Moskva" is "Basalt", which can shoot at coastal targets
          1. 0
            19 October 2015 16: 12
            There "Volcanoes", and they, like "Basalts", are pure anti-ship missiles. Of course, you can shoot them along the shore, but the target should be coastal and the size of a steamer. )
      4. 0
        19 October 2015 20: 47
        Mediterranean caviar ... laughing
    2. +22
      17 October 2015 11: 05
      "General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean group of ships may be involved in strikes against ISIS"
      Well, as they say: NECESSARY SO NECESSARY!
      1. +5
        17 October 2015 11: 19
        Quote: Observer2014
        "General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean group of ships may be involved in strikes against ISIS"
        Well, as they say: NECESSARY SO NECESSARY!


        Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means of loading them?

        Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

        It is one thing, the Caspian Sea, "the internal sea", from where to the bases, "a stone's throw", another, the way to the Russian Sea, through the straits, "back and forth" ...
        1. +6
          17 October 2015 11: 26
          Quote: Good Me
          Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

          ------------------------
          The general simply announced that we can use all the forces and means available to the Black Sea Fleet ... And these means are more than enough, including naval strike aircraft ... So that "our partners" will still be able to make sure that our capabilities are sufficient ...
          1. +10
            17 October 2015 11: 33
            Quote: Altona
            Quote: Good Me
            Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

            ------------------------
            The general simply announced that we can use all the forces and means available to the Black Sea Fleet ... And these means are more than enough, including naval strike aircraft ... So that "our partners" will still be able to make sure that our capabilities are sufficient ...


            Quote: BilliBoms09
            There are supply ships for this. Yes, and I think there is a stock in Tartus.


            But I didn’t write a comment just like that ... It was written in order to cause controversy in the subject, around the fact that when it all ends (the fight against ISIS), we just need to think, together with the leadership of the ATS, so that Tartus and other places can be turned into FULL BASES of the Navy, VKS, and possibly the Russian Marines ...

            1. +8
              17 October 2015 11: 39
              It will just be necessary for us to think, together with the leadership of the SAR, on how to turn Tartus and other places into FULL BASES of the Navy, VKS, and possibly the Russian Marine Corps ...
              Yesterday, the media reported on the construction of a FULL BASE in Tartus! hi
              1. -1
                18 October 2015 08: 13
                Quote: BilliBoms09
                Yesterday, the media reported on the construction of a FULL BASE in Tartus!

                Until Syria decides where and how, they will not build any base.
            2. +8
              17 October 2015 11: 41
              Quote: Good Me
              The General simply announced that we can use all the forces and means available to the Black Sea Fleet ... And these funds are more than enough,


              Here dear Altona right + drinks

              Quote: Good Me
              including strike naval aviation ..


              And here request I would like to hear ... what is meant .. by this term? recourse
              1. +3
                17 October 2015 11: 49
                Quote: ancient
                Quote: Good Me
                including strike naval aviation ..
                ----------------------------------
                And here I would like to hear ... what is meant ... by this term?


                Quote not from my comment request No.
              2. -4
                17 October 2015 12: 06
                Quote: ancient
                And here I would like to hear request ... what do you mean ... by this term? recourse

                I think it means the carrier-based aircraft of the aircraft carrier "Kuznetsov". But in my opinion, it will not be used on the territory of the SAR, there, and two ground air bases of the Russian Defense Ministry are enough. But sea-based missiles can be thrown, purely indicative. But it worries me that there are too large calibers .. On the flagship guards cruiser of the Russian Black Sea Fleet "Moskva" there are 16 P-1000 "Vulkan" anti-ship missiles, each supersonic cruise missile weighs more than SIX TONS! After such "Caliber" you will seem like a childish prank. One such missile can easily destroy a small city. And this is not yet nuclear-powered! So that..
                1. +13
                  17 October 2015 12: 40
                  One such missile can easily destroy a small city. And this is not yet in nuclear performance!

                  Did you make jokes again? Weight warhead at the P-1000 500kg. Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2015 13: 17
                    Quote: Wiruz
                    Did you make jokes again? Weight warhead at the P-1000 500kg. Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.

                    Yes, yes .. Current ma total weight of 6 tons and it all flies to the target at supersonic speeds.
                    So for your reference, in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all lol But for some reason all of them are very vigilant.
                    1. +8
                      17 October 2015 14: 50
                      You know, I had five in physics, and yet I more than disagree with you.
                      1. -1
                        19 October 2015 21: 12
                        Quote: Wiruz
                        You know, I had five in physics, and yet I more than disagree with you.

                        Nevertheless, the kinetic energy of a supersonic projectile will make a considerable contribution. A city is not a city, but a small city will blow a shock wave.
                      2. 0
                        20 October 2015 07: 35
                        Really rave))))
                      3. +1
                        20 October 2015 08: 27
                        You're dramatizing.
                        And about meteorites ... So there the speed is much higher. This means that kinetic energy is higher by a factor of several.
                    2. +11
                      17 October 2015 16: 55
                      in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all
                      Have you seen the Hollywood movie "Armageddon"? Briefly plot - Day one. A large meteorite is flying towards Earth. A group of brave souls disembark on it in order to establish a nuclear charge.
                      Second day. A large meteorite with a nuclear charge flies to Earth ... laughing
                      1. +1
                        19 October 2015 23: 18
                        This is a witty solution to the question ..
                        The film in the Russian box office should have been called "American Armagezdets".
                    3. +2
                      18 October 2015 08: 16
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Yes, yes .. Current ma total weight of 6 tons and it all flies to the target at supersonic speeds.

                      Yes
                      Does speed play a role?
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      So for your reference, in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all. But for some reason all of them are very vigilant.

                      And the bird flu virus is not visible at all. And fear, fear. wink
                      1. +1
                        18 October 2015 14: 28
                        Quote: atalef
                        Does speed play a role?

                        Actually, yes.
                        characteristics of the railgun are ensured by a high initial velocity of the projectile - 2-2,5 km / s. At a speed of impact estimated at 1,6-1,7 km / s, the explosives released by the electric cannon do not require explosives to destroy the target.
                        When a projectile collides with an obstacle at this speed, such an amount of energy is released that an explosive will only hinder it. Well it is, in principle.
                    4. 0
                      20 October 2015 07: 43
                      They are wandering ... and the rocket is wandering, but a five-ton meteorite if it reaches the ground will have a speed of about 4-5 km. S and this is twice as fast as the speed of the rocket, and it is much denser than the rocket! As for the nuclear charge, you are sure where you know that it will fly from the depths of space, YaZ or the plague of all centuries and peoples, and possibly the cthulhu himself! But the city, even if it’s not big, it will not be destroyed just like a rocket! A person hides from a large hail, but he He won’t kill him ... but no, it could have been killed ..)))!
                      1. 0
                        20 October 2015 08: 29
                        This is not twice that of a rocket. And more - 4-5 times. So the energy will be 20-25 times more.
                      2. 0
                        20 October 2015 14: 27
                        Quote: igorka357
                        ! A man hides from a large hail, but he won’t kill him ... but no, there could be a chance to kill ..

                        In India, in 1963, an elephant was killed by a hailstones.
                  2. +1
                    18 October 2015 08: 01
                    Quote: Wiruz
                    Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.

                    Enough for that smile
                2. -1
                  17 October 2015 14: 46
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  I think it means the carrier-based aircraft of the aircraft carrier "Kuznetsov". But in my opinion, it will not be used on the territory of the SAR, there, and two ground air bases of the Russian Defense Ministry are enough.

                  ----------------------------
                  Deck aviation is about nothing ... You can use the Tu-22M3 with cruise missiles from our southern bases ... But this is purely to demonstrate the capabilities ...
                  1. +2
                    18 October 2015 08: 03
                    Quote: Altona
                    .You can use the Tu-22M3 with cruise missiles from our southern bases ...

                    And who will miss him?
              3. +1
                19 October 2015 13: 33
                Quote: Altona
                including strike naval aviation ..

                Quote: ancient
                And here I would like to hear the request ... what is meant .. under this term?

                Do we have "strike naval aviation" left? what
          2. +8
            17 October 2015 15: 51
            How do you see the use of Black Sea Fleet aviation in Syria ?!

            Through the territory of Turkey, or what ??? belay
            1. -3
              17 October 2015 17: 05
              Quote: Oman 47
              Through the territory of Turkey, or what ???

              ----------------------------
              What for? We can shoot with lionfish without leaving our airspace ... In the same way, through Iran and Iraq ...
              1. +4
                17 October 2015 18: 48
                Cruise missiles through SPACE (airless space) will go ???
                Or - still through the territory of Turkey???! fellow request

                You can look at the map of the region and offer specific route?!


                Similarly, through Iran and Iraq ...

                From the Black Sea - through Iran and Iraq ????!

                Ahhh, got it!
                From now on, from ANY point of Russia, the road to Moscow lies exclusively through Vladivostok !!! belay good request
                1. 0
                  17 October 2015 19: 51
                  Quote: Oman 47
                  From the Black Sea - through Iran and Iraq ????

                  ------------------
                  Do you think a plane is a static thing? Can't he fly to the Caspian Sea? Or do you have a monopoly on the truth? From the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea, the distance is fie ... But you actually stumbled on Turkey ...
                  PS Actually, when I wrote about the "salvo on the right side of the Black Sea Fleet," strategists like "Oman 47" also gave me minuses ... They are always aware of everything, they think that the superpower should run with Kalashnikov at the ready, well, as a last resort with a tank or an airplane ... Fantasies-zero ... Including the military-diplomatic ... They believe that Turkey is also a superpower that has no equal in the Universe ...
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2015 23: 04
                    "... But you are generally stoned in Turkey ...
                    strategists like "Oman 47" also made me drawbacks ... They are always aware of everything ... Fantasy-zero ... Including the military-diplomatic ... "


                    Dear Altona, such TON in normal discussion is ordinary TURNBINNESS OF TRAM.
                    Moreover, the correspondence rudeness a priori DOESN'T SUCH BOLD!
                    Would your Marshal Excellency try to tell me or any normal man such a person?
                    Each YOUNG (judging by the manner of conversation), imagining himself a MARSHAL! (spit on virtual epaulettes) and a military STRATEG and DIPLOMAT (Lavrov and Churkin just nervously smoke in the shadow of GREAT ALTONA! belay ) WILL be rude ??????!
                    Shcha! How so ...

                    Young man, epaulets (any, but real!) Had to wear ???! I see - no, otherwise the level of Doubt would be a little lower, STRATEG you are our greatest of all times and the peoples of the CIS, PUP of the Russian and Chuvash lands separately, lover of pluses... request

                    PS Normal people - argue their position.

                    PPS It’s possible to meet VERY MUCH ... The face is open. IP is known, the address is easy.

                    Hamit - NOT WORTH.
                    1. 0
                      18 October 2015 12: 09
                      Quote: Oman 47
                      PS Normal people - argue their position.

                      -------------------
                      They all argued for you in normal type ... Write in capsule, and even in bold type-badge ... For your information, the bombers in the Crimea belonged to the Mediterranean grouping, this was their area of ​​responsibility ...
                      1. 0
                        18 October 2015 23: 53
                        "What to say, when there is NOTHING TO SAY!" - this phrase is pronounced by the crowd on the set of the film, - to create the appearance of speech (activity).
                        I said that I said (above), and was heard.
                        Everyone is fully responsible for their words and actions; in any case, a normal man.
                      2. +1
                        19 October 2015 00: 30
                        It is strange that graduates of the Academy of the General Staff, large military leaders with STRATEGIC thinking, belay - They have no idea about such a navy formation as the 5th operational squadron.
                        BS bearing area - Mediterranean.
                        PS: it was completed far from not only and not so much from the forces and means of the Black Sea Fleet.
                  2. -1
                    18 October 2015 00: 26
                    DEAR ALTONA,
                    run around my closest comments and put a stealthy minus AFTER SPEAKED - LOW! MEN - DECENTLY.
                    I don't give a damn about "minuses" and "plus signs" (unlike your Excellency). Chukchi is not a writer; Chukchi is a reader.

                    Relatives in the country of the Selected Exceptional - ISRAEL - not available ???!
                    Judging by the method of action - enough. Then - no questions. Simply: A PITABLE SMALL POC, A SMALL SHOWER - NOT A MAN.
        2. +3
          17 October 2015 11: 26
          Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?
          There are supply ships for this. Yes, and I think there is a stock in Tartus.
        3. +2
          17 October 2015 11: 31
          Quote: Good Me
          Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

          Well, yes, there are some suckers ...
        4. +14
          17 October 2015 12: 01
          "Kind Me"
          Greetings, colleague. You are "chasing" me today on the site. Ha ha ha we have not met for an hour?
          Now about the serious: "Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means for loading them?"

          Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?
          I think that this issue has been resolved. Since our General Staff (I’m afraid to jinx it) The last few years have simply surprised everyone with their absolutely thoughtful actions. And in my words there is not a drop in the catch.
        5. 0
          17 October 2015 12: 10
          To demonstrate the ability does not mean to use up all the ammunition immediately on the objectives of the IG. They, these goals, still need to be scouted in the right amount to use up everything.
        6. +2
          17 October 2015 12: 26
          Quote: Good Me
          Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

          In fact, the ship itself is a floating ammunition depot. Imagine what the Mediterranean squadron means FULLY Shot BK. Yes there half of Syria will be erased. In the second half, you can go on a reload.
        7. +2
          17 October 2015 14: 55
          In the next branch they prove that even AUG would not be a problem for us to supply at least 5000 miles.
          1. +2
            17 October 2015 16: 42
            And what is the fundamental problem? Tankers, supply vessels canceled?
        8. +2
          17 October 2015 15: 03
          Yes, and in the Caspian it seems like having shot ammunition, the ships went to the base, and it is not clear when the continuation will follow ...
          Quote: Good I
          Quote: Observer2014
          "General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean group of ships may be involved in strikes against ISIS"
          Well, as they say: NECESSARY SO NECESSARY!


          Question: Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means of loading them?

          Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

          It is one thing, the Caspian Sea, "the internal sea", from where to the bases, "a stone's throw", another, the way to the Russian Sea, through the straits, "back and forth" ...
        9. +2
          17 October 2015 17: 57
          Quote: Good Me
          : Do we have ammunition depots in Tartus? Means of loading them?

          Most likely not, at least during the Union, they did not plan or build one.
          Quote: Good Me
          Or, having shot the BC, our group will have to "scratch" home, "recharge"?

          Why is it so sad? Although the Black Sea Fleet suffered in previous years in terms of reducing the number of ships and ships, it currently has two Maritime Transport Armaments, MTV General Ryabikov and the former Turkish transport Kemah and now the Military Transport Dvinitsa-50. So they will feed the squadron with ammunition.
      2. +1
        17 October 2015 11: 22
        Russia has always been accused that we are clumsy and that we have no grasp in "commercial" matters ... Too naive and trusting ..! But we usually compensate for this militarily (and usually we take all the money)))) And we will now show how this is done in real life! Everything will be calculated to the point ... This is our element! These are the things of the gentlemen in the Caspian Flotilla ... bully
    3. +15
      17 October 2015 11: 09
      A good hint to all barkers about Russia in the region. And the shaitans must be beaten by all means until they go to hell.
    4. +2
      17 October 2015 11: 11
      Here is the garne


      R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi good afternoon. - Are you already switching to MOV? laughing
      1. +6
        17 October 2015 11: 28
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Here is the garne


        R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi good afternoon. - Are you already switching to MOV? laughing

        Good Day Nikolai ... Alas, yes! Still worried about Ukrainians (relatives by any means))))) They’re just shouting bastards, Russia attacked .. But she didn’t think so, the devils are wet in Syria, and in Ukraine there are a lot of them too! hi
        1. +2
          17 October 2015 11: 34
          I’m also worried, there are a lot of relatives, that I’m from Poltava, that I’m from the Crimea (now ours) - I’m also watching their news - I’ve started to learn a little language :)))
      2. +1
        18 October 2015 05: 15
        wait)) after the ruin of the mov after Syria in Arabic))) it’s normal, so we’ll become polyglot hi
    5. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 50
      The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS

      And what are we going to beat? If the cruiser "Moskva" flops, then it will be possible to miss a decent chunk of Syria. There, anti-ship missiles are more serious than "Calibers".
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 23: 56
        And how can the cruiser "Moskva" be thrown in there? With its 130mm cannons, maybe ... Until "Kuznetsov" or some nuclear submarine from the Northern Fleet is there, the Mediterranean squadron will be able to frighten coastal Islamists with artillery.
        1. +1
          18 October 2015 00: 08
          16 installations ,, Volcano ,, just ... a real trifle, you do not even take it seriously. wink
          1. +5
            18 October 2015 00: 19
            "Volcanoes" are supersonic anti-ship missiles. Are you going to sink ISIS ships with them? To do this, they will need to first sell or build them. )
    6. +2
      17 October 2015 14: 58
      Kohl the Syrians allowed, it is necessary to burn out the infection indicatively so that no one relaxes, to take an example from Amerov. There will be less reporting, and even more justifying oneself, there will be more benefits and sanctions will be quickly lifted.
    7. +5
      17 October 2015 15: 12
      And what will they shoot? We don't have cruise missile carriers there. Moscow may be "Vulcan" and palnet, but this is the PKR. There, and the firing range is shorter, and I have never heard of the use of this complex "along the coast". The rest are generally armed with missile-torpedoes against pl, in the colloquial naval censorship translation "aerodynamic misunderstanding." So the maximum is artillery, well, air defense cover. So we urgently need to drive the "cheetahs" or submarines with cruise missiles soldier
    8. +1
      17 October 2015 16: 42
      Garno. Duzhe. But! Without ground destruction (mopping up) of militants, nothing will happen ...
  2. +8
    17 October 2015 11: 06
    They can and I think they will. By what methods terrorism will be destroyed does not play a special role. Especially if terrorists have MANPADS or their Analogs.
  3. +8
    17 October 2015 11: 06
    "Somewhere" "Someone" sits in the night and reads reports ...

  4. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 06
    I think it's time for them to strike at ISIS, and ours will train and help Syria. soldier
  5. +6
    17 October 2015 11: 07
    except for artifact, there is nothing to naughty on the shore ... now if the Warsaw is hiding nearby ..... then yes ....
    1. +15
      17 October 2015 11: 24
      I just wanted to write about it. There is simply nothing to work with on ships off the coast of Syria along the coast, Kartapolov simply confused and intimidated a potential enemy. The calibers are located nearby only for the Novorossiysk diesel and two MRK, which are being tested in the Black Sea. Novorossiysk is now being painted in Sevastopol, MRK has not yet been accepted. However, this may change by the end of the year. The second Warsaw woman "Rostov on Don" is starting the transition to the Black Sea Fleet, 2 small ships "Serpukhov" and "Zeleny Dol" will complete trials and become part of the Black Sea Fleet. Most likely, two frigates 2 will pass the tests and begin the transition. All of them have calibers, although they are unlikely to be smacked to the right and left. We have shown everything that is needed, and it is easier, more convenient and cheaper to work with front-line aviation. The fleet in Mediterranean is primarily to protect against mattress mats and Turks, not against IS.
    2. -3
      17 October 2015 11: 29
      Quote: gispanec
      except for artifact, there is nothing to grind on the shore ...

      And the "Volcanoes" on the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet are you a ram nagging? Half a ton mass of the warhead, 700 km. range and 16 pieces in a salvo. Expensive, of course, but what is cheap right now?
      1. +5
        17 October 2015 12: 17
        Volcanoes are the same PCR. They are not intended for work on the ground. They can, of course, get smack, but the accuracy of hitting the target will never be provided. So it’s like hammering nails with a microscope.
        1. +1
          17 October 2015 13: 07
          You are mistaken, the RCC has a decent accuracy. A moving ship warrant is a much more difficult target than static ground objects. But I agree with the fact that their use against land targets is like "hammering nails with a microscope". Although the expiration date of the products may be suitable - they can also shmalnu, for the purpose of disposal smile
          1. +3
            17 October 2015 13: 42
            For reference: The control and guidance system is an inertial missile control system with correction according to the GOS radar data. The selection of targets is probably either automatic or by the principle of telecontrol (by the ship operator according to the missile’s radar data) or combined.
          2. +4
            17 October 2015 13: 53
            RCC type P-500 / P-700 provide the destruction of typical radio-contrast ground targets such as Port / Plant NABCH. For a conventional warhead, accuracy is not ensured.

            In the Mediterranean Sea, only Moscow can nominally strike at ground targets with missile weapons - SKR Ladny and Inquisitive missile torpedoes cannot strike (there are two final modes - a torpedo release or a final correction and platoon warhead torpedo directly on a rocket).

            X-35 have their own crutch and can be used for point-to-point ground targets (a large warehouse / factory / high-rise level) - however, on the Shrewd only a container, there are no missiles there. Even the wiring is not failed.


            However, in theory, strikes from the Mediterranean can be delivered by forces:
            - Novorossiysk
            - Two 21631 RTOs undergoing tests, but they must be carried out to Middle-earth, which is not yet available.
            1. +1
              18 October 2015 02: 39
              Of course, I wildly apologize, but what if we assume that there are containers with clubs on the Mediterranean group of the Russian Navy? Type put on the deck a few 40 foot containers just in case ?! laughingOr as an option, a couple of "peaceful" container ships of bulk carriers were sent on alert? angry
          3. +4
            17 October 2015 18: 10
            Quote: Penetrator
            they can make fun of it, for recycling purposes

            Nah, well, shmalnut then of course you can and maybe the GOS will take some sort of bunker for the ship what ... But “Moskva” will be left without a main battery, which is not good. In the conditions of a coastal base, it will take 16-1.5 days to recharge the "Moscow" (all 2 missiles).
  6. +6
    17 October 2015 11: 07
    Russian ships in the Mediterranean Sea can strike at IS facilities in Syria at any time,
    Yes, yes ... you need to check the effectiveness of all systems, but here is the opportunity to combine the two utilities ...
  7. +7
    17 October 2015 11: 10
    It makes no sense to strike without support from a ground operation - the aircraft will cope, all the more so since the decrease in the number of sorties makes one think of reducing the number of reconnaissance targets, so if we hear missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, we can safely say that the second stage of the UAR offensive began ...
    1. +1
      17 October 2015 12: 06
      Quote: AlexTires
      It makes no sense to strike without support from a ground operation - aviation can handle it, all the more so a decrease in the number of departures suggests an idea of ​​reducing the number of explored targets, so if we hear missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, we can safely say that the second stage of the offensive of the ATS army began ...


      Sergey Gololobov

      "Choosing targets in Syria has become more difficult" October 17, 2015 08:28

      The Syrian Armed Forces are developing offensive operations against terrorist groups. According to the representative of the armed forces of the Syrian Arab Republic, Brigadier General Ali Mayhub, the operations are carried out simultaneously with accurate air strikes by the Syrian Air Force and using the results of Russian aircraft strikes against terrorists. Over the past three days, according to the general, operational efforts have been focused on various areas. In the southern region, units and subdivisions of the Syrian Armed Forces began a military operation in the Jobar and Harasta districts of the Eastern Ghouta region on the outskirts of Damascus. Command posts and communication centers of terrorists were destroyed, many of them were destroyed. The studio is in touch with the special correspondent of Vesti FM radio Sergey Gololobov.

      Listen fully in the audio version.


      http://radiovesti.ru/article/show/article_id/180449
    2. +1
      18 October 2015 08: 18
      Quote: AlexTires
      a decrease in the number of departures suggests an idea of ​​reducing the number of explored targets

      Or a decrease in the effectiveness of strikes - cockroaches spread across settlements, and there are completely peaceful ones.
      1. +1
        18 October 2015 08: 35
        Quote: Bayonet
        Or a decrease in the effectiveness of strikes - cockroaches spread across settlements, and there are completely peaceful ones.

        Well, of course, the target bank has decreased and of course the bandits left for the cities (which was understandable)
        The rest is already visible in rhetoric.
        Putin said last week that the SSA could be brought into the coalition, and yesterday that leaving Assad personally was not the goal.
        While the situation is developing (as I expected in the scenario)
        1. The militants left for the cities
        2. The CCA will provide MANPADS and air defense systems to eliminate strikes on them (which happened)
        3. The advance of Assad’s troops - it will be very slow and only in areas with a Christian and Alawite population (more precisely, where they lived)
        4. The West and the United States will sit quietly and wait for more and more drawing Russia into the conflict.
  8. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 11
    They will now be hiding peacefully, and what else to expect from these ghouls.
    We will see how our aviation will work in these conditions that have already changed. I hope that it is no less effective than at the beginning of the operation.
  9. +4
    17 October 2015 11: 12
    If such a statement is made, then such actions are planned. As they say - God is to help.
  10. +5
    17 October 2015 11: 14
    It's more scary. If from the Black Sea. To pass over Turkey. So that the janissaries also understand that they do not have any air defense, and no "Ijilis" of striped ones will help them. And then they began to perform a lot. It's time to remind you that Mount Ararat was not always on Turkish territory. And that they have a fifth of the population - the Kurds, whom they have crushed and crushed for many years.
  11. +5
    17 October 2015 11: 18
    Janissaries are not Turks.
  12. +2
    17 October 2015 11: 20
    “Can the grouping of Russian ships in the Mediterranean Sea, if necessary, be involved in operations in Syria,” the general replied: “Absolutely.”
    what a beautiful word "Certainly" (and the DOT after it)
  13. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 21
    A very reasonable option - both the crews are training, and the weapons are being rolled in, both the Syrians and the "partners" - a clear lesson. We only need the appropriate targets, so that not one bearded sparrow from the cannon. So, after finding worthy targets, we will most likely learn about the work of the Mediterranean grouping of our Navy.
  14. +4
    17 October 2015 11: 22
    I wonder what this group will strike?
    1. +1
      17 October 2015 13: 06
      She will destroy them morally. Not capable of anything more. Well, unless of course Severodvinsk in those waters does not swim
  15. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 23
    After such a statement, we are preparing to listen to the choir of Western European singers.
  16. +6
    17 October 2015 11: 24
    fellow The Navy has enough missiles with suitable for the finish life.

    BEST DISPOSAL METHOD! wassat
  17. +9
    17 October 2015 11: 24
    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the Mediterranean grouping of ships may be used for strikes on the IS
    Another horror movie for Obama
  18. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 28
    It would be nice for "Severodvinsk" to fire off cruise missiles from Mediterranean ... Dreams, dreams ... but the picture would be spectacular, and on NATO it would have a much greater effect than the recent shooting from the Caspian Sea
  19. +2
    17 October 2015 11: 38
    Well, if we also with the Mediterranean smell, the howl will rise to heaven
    1. +5
      17 October 2015 14: 26
      Quote: Hubun
      Well, if we also with the Mediterranean smell, the howl will rise to heaven

      Let's be realistic! Today, given the composition of the ships in the Mediterranean, there’s simply nothing to shoot at coastal targets from there. sad The first entry of "Novorossiysk" on combat duty is scheduled for April 2016 and so far only the Black Sea has been discussed. "Grigorovich" has just begun passing state tests. "Calibers" are only on the Buyans, who recently arrived at the Black Sea Fleet: "Serpukhov" and "Zeleny Dol", but they are still in the NMB and there has been no question of sending them to Mediterranean. Nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk" on the Northern Fleet. So so far we have nothing to beat from Mediterranean by land.
      On ships and aircraft we can, but not on land.
  20. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 41
    Quote: DEZINTO
    "Somewhere" "Someone" sits in the night and reads reports ...



    It seems to me that this person is shuffling his pants. EVERYTHING, ALL the mighty fleets of the United States have been multiplied by one salvo of just the Caspian Flotilla. Keep quiet, shitties, otherwise "Buyan-M" will get upset, but not alone. What's this loaded on the cruiser Moskva? E, how many diesel submarines are there? If I were a baboon, I would say: "OUCH!" And in Colorado, running.
  21. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 48
    It’s also true! Why take risks with airplanes if such a threat arises
  22. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 26
    Quote: KnightRider
    It would be nice for "Severodvinsk" to fire off cruise missiles from Mediterranean ... Dreams, dreams ... but the picture would be spectacular, and on NATO it would have a much greater effect than the recent shooting from the Caspian Sea


    The submarine is in reserve, but the "bears" would be used, they would be fired, there is something, this is a topic. To wet the naughty ones - they cut people's heads - what's this ??? Ay, don't anger the Russian men. “Spasibo, RUSSIA!” - people shout, you need to watch out for your interest - there should be a hundred meters of oil. Dot . And then we will turn out the little hands for everyone.
  23. +3
    17 October 2015 12: 31
    When the time comes to engage our Russian grouping in the Mediterranean Sea, submarine missile launches with submarines would have to be worked out so that the bandits and the United States coalition would not only have their withers but also panties wet.
    It seems that they have already crossed over at the mention: Russia-Putin, Assad-resignation, everything, then a complete stupor.
    As they say: I hear, but do not listen, and I speak, but I do not understand what was said.
  24. +3
    17 October 2015 12: 48
    I want to go back to the Army, use the Iskander !!!
  25. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 21
    They have already hit from the ships, it is necessary for the effect also from submarines, in a submerged position, to shmalnu. On Varshavyanki, the b / c Caliber is not great, therefore it is better with a nuclear sub, like we already have two such fish in the ranks. Drive in the Atlantic to the Pillars of Hercules, and from the outside, across the entire Mediterranean, smash the reconnoitred bases of the anti-Assad pro-American "moderate opposition" with moderate calibers. This will be a real "Shock and Awe", and not shnyaga like the amers. And the real study of our submariners. Three in one submarine)).
  26. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 58
    There are no gauges on the ships. There is only RCC. You can only aircraft carrier to fit and fly.
  27. +3
    17 October 2015 14: 17
    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: Wiruz
    Did you make jokes again? Weight warhead at the P-1000 500kg. Somehow not enough to destroy the city, albeit a small one.

    Yes, yes .. Current ma total weight of 6 tons and it all flies to the target at supersonic speeds.
    So for your reference, in meteorites threatening the whole earth there is no warhead at all lol But for some reason all of them are very vigilant.

    Excuse me, are you going to use anti-ship missiles against ground targets? hi
  28. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 53
    In this case, the matter is clearly not limited to 26 "Calibers". There will be no wet spot left from terrorists.
  29. +3
    17 October 2015 15: 00
    ISHILIANS WITH ITS GANGS ARE CREATED IN ORDER TO TEST ON THEM ALL WEAPONS, INCLUDING AND INSTALLED ON OUR NAVY.
  30. +4
    17 October 2015 16: 15
    I’ve heard about the shadow government, but now I’m watching, the shadow GS is already working, moreover, it’s online.
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  32. +2
    18 October 2015 04: 20
    It is clear that we will win .. But why so much joy from the fact that we are at war .. Another stupidity, and nothing more.
  33. 0
    18 October 2015 07: 15
    but this is quite interesting
    1. +1
      18 October 2015 08: 30
      Quote: marder4
      but this is quite interesting

      What do not you understand? Only a person with an abnormal psyche can enjoy the war.
      1. +1
        18 October 2015 16: 22
        Quote: Bayonet
        Only a person with an abnormal psyche can enjoy the war.

        Well, one was found - put a minus, then I do not agree. Maybe they will catch up ...
  34. 0
    18 October 2015 10: 17
    The word "victory" in such wars is a relative concept. The main thing is to know what goals we want to achieve. And reach them.
  35. +1
    18 October 2015 11: 09
    Quote: marlin1203
    So we urgently need to drive the "cheetahs" or submarines with cruise missiles


    No "Cheetahs", "Cheetah"... One is available in the Caspian Sea, the second is in service with "Uranus". The boat is also one. And so far he is not going to military service. Repairs after an inter-fleet crossing. So the maximum that you can "drive" there is one single "Dagestan"

    Quote: gispanec
    except for art, there’s nothing to naughty on the shore ... if
    Warsaw is hiding nearby ..... then yes ....


    “Is Varshavyanka hiding?” Yes, let him hide. The benefits are 0,0. In the three fleets (BF, Black Sea Fleet, Northern Fleet) there are only 5 navigable, all of them are Project 877, which are without Caliber. The only one with Caliber is being repaired in Sevastopol.

    Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    After 26 missiles from the Caspian Sea, Europoids rushed with a ruler to measure the distance from the waters of the Black, Baltic, Mediterranean, North Seas, the Bay of Biscay of the Atlantic to their territories. And then there was also information that Russia had UNDERWATER DRONES with ID, capable of ZERO ports, military bases and generally make the NATO Navy useless! And a 2-month invisible under the ice "walk" of the nuclear submarine with the meaningful name "Yuri Dolgoruky", capable of delivering YAZ anywhere in the world! How "our partners" wagged their backs, just a choir of Borisov Moiseyevs!


    In fact, the stuffing about drones was a month earlier. And not argued by anything. Many bought ...

    A two-month hike under the ice - what's so unusual? Or do you think that the "adversary" boats with ballistic missiles are not there? Able to deliver YabZ to anywhere in the world? Why events of epoch-making significance are made from an ordinary campaign are not clear. Or before this, no one has walked and doesn’t walk under the ice from our strategists? Or do the Americans not?

    Quote: mitrich
    On Varshavyanki, the caliber of caliber is not great, therefore it is better with nuclear submarines, like we already have two such fish in the ranks.

    Nuclear submarine with Caliber? Must upset. One. Severodvinsk
  36. +1
    18 October 2015 11: 09
    Quote: alex80
    Quote: Hubun
    Well, if we also with the Mediterranean smell, the howl will rise to heaven

    Let's be realistic! Today, given the composition of the ships in the Mediterranean, there’s simply nothing to shoot at coastal targets from there. sad The first entry of "Novorossiysk" on combat duty is scheduled for April 2016 and so far only the Black Sea has been discussed. "Grigorovich" has just begun passing state tests. "Calibers" are only on the Buyans, who recently arrived at the Black Sea Fleet: "Serpukhov" and "Zeleny Dol", but they are still in the NMB and there has been no question of sending them to Mediterranean. Nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk" on the Northern Fleet. So so far we have nothing to beat from Mediterranean by land.
    On ships and aircraft we can, but not on land.

    That's right. Nothing.

    Quote: mitrich
    Drive in the Atlantic to the Pillars of Hercules, and from the outside, across the entire Mediterranean, smash the reconnoitred bases of the anti-Assad pro-American "moderate opposition" with moderate calibers.

    Wow. And by order of magnitude, set the range of calibers to 5000 km? Well, at least they looked at the map before writing this. God forbid, he will get to Tunisia with an ordinary BG, and with special units he will not reach Crete. And further on the well-known expression? "At first she walked as long as she could, and then how many will be ordered" ???
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  38. -1
    18 October 2015 16: 09
    Quote: atalef
    and yesterday that leaving Assad personally is not the goal

    In fact, Putin has stated this more than once, and not "yesterday", that the goal of Russia in Syria is to maintain statehood, and who will be the head of state will decide the Syrian people.

    It seems that you constantly participate in discussions on the site, follow the events. What, do not keep track of or suffer from small nonsense?
  39. 0
    18 October 2015 17: 36
    atalef, are you petty shitting the minuses without answering the obvious facts or are there still fighters with reality?
    1. 0
      19 October 2015 00: 16
      Yes, yes! (see comments above).
      The circus still did not think to leave, and the clowns - for two staffing!
  40. +2
    19 October 2015 13: 39
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Quote: Altona
    including strike naval aviation ..

    Quote: ancient
    And here I would like to hear the request ... what is meant .. under this term?

    Do we have "strike naval aviation" left? what

    All Tu-22М3 removed from naval aviation several years ago.
  41. 0
    20 October 2015 00: 29
    what it would be necessary to run 100 ku calibers at once and see what will happen in the west and in the world, the show of the century is for sure laughing
  42. 0
    20 October 2015 01: 36
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  43. 0
    20 October 2015 08: 32
    Once they said that they could use the Mediterranean squadron, then most likely its application is not included in the plans ... They decided to scare the West through the media once again, also not unnecessary, more often ...
  44. 0
    20 October 2015 08: 51
    Hello everybody!"
    Every day the development of events is becoming more and more interesting!
    Are we waiting for the reaction of the "partners"? )))
  45. 0
    20 October 2015 09: 24
    The reaction of partners, as usual, will be dumbfounded by the smell ..... What is from the mouth, what from the panties ....
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