Bulgarians again refused to provide the air corridor to the Russian transport worker

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Sofia, referring to the formal reason, once again denied Russia the provision of an air corridor, this time for an emergency ministry transport plane heading for Syria with humanitarian aid, reports Look With reference to the representative of the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry Betin Zhoteva.



“We refused to issue permission to fly in Bulgarian airspace to a Russian plane due to late filing of the application. In accordance with the regulations, five days are allotted for its consideration, however, the Russian colleagues sent an application for October 14, and the flight was planned for October 16. ”- said Zhoteva.

According to her, “the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry made this decision independently.”

Meanwhile, State Duma deputy, member of the defense committee Franz Klintsevich called obvious the fact that “Bulgaria took its decision under US pressure.”

The newspaper reminds that Sofia has already imposed a ban on the passage of Russian aircraft in the sky over Bulgaria from 1 to 24 September. Then the decision of the Foreign Ministry explained the fear of the authorities regarding the contents of the goods transported to Syria.
  • Press Service of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation for the YNAO
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  1. +83
    17 October 2015 10: 38
    Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke
    1. +60
      17 October 2015 10: 44
      The Order of Judas is a worthy reward for them
      1. +51
        17 October 2015 11: 00
        Synonym for traitor Bulgaria! And there’s nothing to add here. God forgive me, not the country.
        Ha, but how they had a blast under the Soviet Union! I would even go deep with them. broke off relations. Eastern European impasse. Country for the supply of canned vegetables and prostitutes to Europe.
        1. +41
          17 October 2015 11: 31
          Quote: Observer2014
          Ha, but how they had a blast under the Soviet Union!

          1986 Zlata Pyastsi, Varna, Tolbukhin and other coastal cities - excursion trips. When our peasants saw the luxurious dachas, they asked the guide - whose? Whether she lied or not, she answered that they were ordinary workers. In the stores they looked at us as if we were defective, because they swept away everything! And it really happened there all! Well, now Bulgaria is “prospering” by currying favor with the Americans.

          It's the same in Poland. Moreover, private entrepreneurship was already flourishing in Poland in those days. Therefore, I don’t understand the stories of some citizens about some kind of “Polish economic miracle.” Yes, Poland is not dying like Bulgaria, but I don’t see any economic breakthrough or significant difference between the current Poland within the EU and the times of the CMEA.
          I can’t say anything about other countries of the CMEA bloc, since I wasn’t in them at that time. Well, they are now free! Free from everything.
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          2. 0
            17 October 2015 14: 03
            Now, smart guys, turn on your brain. Try...

            For everyone, he writes about “Judas” and traitors - remember Yeltsin for a second. Drunk and disgraceful. And you will not remember such a shame in the entire period of modern history. Now let's imagine an ordinary Bulgarian who sees all this on the box - what could he think? That all Russians are disgusting drunken pigs? Judging by your comments, I could have thought and had every right to do so.

            Bulgaria is not an independent country. After a fight they don’t wave their fists - the USSR was gone and they had no one to rely on. And power in their country is simply occupied, just like in other countries of the former Union. And it is this government that is causing a showdown with Russia.

            From myself: I know Bulgarians, my brother’s wife is one of them. Kind, calm and sympathetic people. There are Bulgarian settlements in the Odessa region, and during the first “mobilizations” in Ukraine, whole villages together greeted the military registration and enlistment officers and kicked them to the outskirts so that they still don’t come.

            With crests it’s a different matter; that’s who is really sick. But we actually have much more brothers than we think.
            1. +23
              17 October 2015 14: 44
              It’s hard to even comment on nonsense... My son, El Zina, hasn’t even made a speech from the tank, and the Bulgarians have already called on Alyosha to leave. Just live a little. But the people there are good - and the service is nothing, but about the military commissars - they travel with the National Guard, and once they were given pendals, they wounded several, then they imprisoned them, then... You are not my stars, I live here.
              1. +2
                17 October 2015 15: 02
                I've lived enough and, thank God, you're not my dad, dad. I don’t want intelligence - apparently you have enough for your basic needs, but wisdom - yes.
            2. +12
              17 October 2015 14: 46
              Thinking well about your brothers is one thing, and to receive no help in difficult times, at least support - hell, the Bulgarians are only betrayal, that good people are very nice to hear, but in all difficult times Russia was betrayed.
              1. +4
                17 October 2015 16: 48
                Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
                to receive no help in difficult times, at least support - horseradish, from the Bulgarians

                According to the operation plan, after our paratroopers captured the Slatina airport (Yugoslavia in 1999), military transport planes of the Russian Air Force were supposed to land on it soon, which were supposed to transport at least two airborne regiments and heavy military equipment. However, Hungary (a NATO member) and Bulgaria (a NATO ally) refused to provide Russia with an air corridor, as a result of which 200 paratroopers were practically left alone for several days with all the arriving NATO forces.
                1. +2
                  17 October 2015 23: 17
                  In fact, for the Russian people, than the Bulgarians (seemingly Slavs and Orthodox Christians), the same Tuvinians, Mongols, Yakuts and Buryats, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz in general are much closer to Eurasia - it is “our own”, and the Bulgarians are already Europe
              2. 0
                18 October 2015 04: 02
                He is a good man, although he sits on his wife’s neck, but he is so courteous, he will let you in at the door and say hello.
            3. +10
              17 October 2015 17: 00
              I would strangle such a brother with my own hands.
              It’s time to finish about the brothers, there was only one Russia with the parents, one... Then, at different times, parasites attached themselves, but immediately, at every convenient accomplice, they strove to bite the hand with which they had started.

              PS

              I accidentally pressed the plus button, sorry.
            4. -14
              17 October 2015 17: 18
              Quote: Baikal
              With crests it’s a different matter; that’s who is really sick. But we actually have much more brothers than we think.

              Well, there’s simply not enough anger for such comments. A Russian from Ukraine, by no means a Maydown-horse from the earliest times... What do you mean, crests are all smeared with ga@m? For you, brothers and sisters are now the Arab people of Syria, Afghans, Parsis and other Shiites... The Bolivians with the Nicaraguans and Guatemalans have become dear, the dear blood of the brown mestizos has been found overseas... If only the crests were soiled in shit worse than the natives from the African -Papuan forests... Only crests are crazy... These crests are worse than pubic lice!
              1. +2
                18 October 2015 02: 49
                I sometimes read Ukrainian sites, and if I have such relatives, then they are clearly sick.
            5. +6
              17 October 2015 17: 31
              Quote: Baikal
              remember Yeltsin for a second. Drunk and disgraceful. And you will not remember such a shame in the entire period of modern history.

              You can’t judge an entire nation by one person, even if he’s the president. Look at Porosenko. He’s a drunk and a bastard. But I don’t think all Ukrainians are like that. hi
          3. +2
            17 October 2015 16: 10
            Quote: Rostov
            It's the same in Poland.



            I would like to add - despite the fact that Poland had everything, however, in the regions of the USSR bordering them, the Poles also swept EVERYTHING from store shelves - from light bulbs and irons to larger goods...

            True, they swept away these goods in order to resell them there... That’s the kind of nation... Since Friday evening - cars at the side of the road with all sorts of panties hung on them, magazines... Well, and ours, accordingly, are also at they were all swept away...

            PS Eh, at that time we didn’t value our light bulbs, irons, watches, cameras... Or maybe we didn’t have enough money... I don’t remember...
          4. +2
            17 October 2015 18: 33
            The Poles are handlers. As long as it is possible to do handle, and in the absence of borders it is easy, Poland will prosper. But it won’t do them any good. And the Bulgarians, Judas, are especially sorry for their childhood illusions. I grew up reading books about brothers - Shipka, Plevna, Russian and Bulgarian brothers forever, sixteenth republic of the USSR. And they turned out to be ordinary sell-out skins... And no need to say that they had no choice, we abandoned them, they were not to blame. There is always a choice, they made theirs.
          5. 0
            18 October 2015 03: 49
            When only American democracy remains, then they will truly be free, but now there is still something to cover up.
        2. -77
          17 October 2015 11: 37
          Quote: Observer2014
          Synonym for traitor Bulgaria! And there’s nothing to add here

          In order to betray, you need to swear allegiance somehow. Did Bulgaria swear allegiance to Russia?
          Quote: Observer2014
          Ha, but how they had a blast under the Soviet Union!

          Yes, they lived well there. only there is no USSR. and they don’t owe Russia anything for this
          Quote: Observer2014
          .A country supplying canned vegetables and prostitutes to Europe.

          This is you in vain.
          Bulgaria is making good progress, they generally work a lot.
          1. +30
            17 October 2015 11: 47
            Quote: atalef

            This is you in vain.
            Bulgaria is making good progress, they generally work a lot.


            1st WW - Germany's ally
            2st WW - Germany's ally

            Now Israel too?

            So Thread will be “used” by someone, ready to betray
            1. -33
              17 October 2015 12: 01
              Quote: Old very
              Quote: atalef

              This is you in vain.
              Bulgaria is making good progress, they generally work a lot.


              1st WW - Germany's ally
              2st WW - Germany's ally

              Now Israel too?

              So Thread will be “used” by someone, ready to betray

              It's strange that you call them brothers. despite the fact that in all the wars of the 20th century, they fought against Russia
              And the fact that they work is true, I generally travel a lot and see how in 7 years, 600 hotels were built in Sunny Beach alone.
              1. +9
                17 October 2015 12: 14
                Quote: atalef
                It's strange that you call them brothers. despite the fact that in all the wars of the 20th century, they fought against Russia


                This is envy speaking in you.

                Let us sometimes have feuds between brothers, sometimes very dramatic ones, but you, BROTHERLY PEOPLES, have never had and never will.


                YOU ARE ALONE, NAKED AS A FINGER...
                1. +9
                  17 October 2015 12: 29
                  Only Army and Navy! Proven by history and Russian blood!
                  1. +5
                    17 October 2015 15: 31
                    Quote: mike_z
                    Only Army and Navy! Proven by history and Russian blood!

                    Enough with this nonsense already! The Army and Navy are not allies, but Russia ITSELF! The king said this in an allegorical manner. But Russia MUST have allies, and now THEY HAVE them! The main ones are the CSTO and BRICS. And there are plenty of sympathizers - for example, SYRIA, where our air and naval bases have now settled for a long time Yes
                    1. +5
                      17 October 2015 17: 03
                      Enough with this nonsense already! The Army and Navy are not allies, but Russia ITSELF! The king said this in an allegorical manner.


                      He (the king) further continued that the rest, at the first opportunity, would take up arms against us.
                      As we can see, this is not an allegorical expression at all.
                      Everything turned out exactly as he said.
                      The tsar still knew more about foreign policy than we did and understood what and how.
                      Moreover, this is the time of the Russian Empire. The state was territorially larger than modern Russia.
                      After that there were more enemies.
                      Everyone who split off did not separate from Russia because of great and brotherly love.
                      So, I don’t understand where and in what way you are making the allegory.
                      Main - CSTO and BRICS

                      1. Not allies - partners in one activity or another.
                      2. Who was the initiator of these formations?
                      3. What happened to the Warsaw Pact?, Where did the “allies” go?

                      So the question arises - who and where is carrying this nonsense?
                2. -18
                  17 October 2015 12: 35
                  Quote: Good Me
                  This is envy speaking in you.

                  Nice picture - tell me which of them are allies of Russia?
                  Quote: Good Me
                  but you, BROTHERLY PEOPLES, have never had and never will have.

                  what for ? At least we will not have disappointment --- from betrayal
                  Quote: Good Me
                  YOU ARE ALONE, NAKED AS FINGERS..

                  A goal like a finger is something new.
                  wink
                  1. +5
                    17 October 2015 12: 46
                    Quote: atalef
                    A goal like a finger is something new.


                    I'm not guilty that you have fingers and palms laughing , in wool.

                    “Enlightenment, spirit,” has many more discoveries in store for you... wink
                    1. -8
                      17 October 2015 12: 49
                      Quote: Good I
                      Quote: atalef
                      A goal like a finger is something new.


                      “Enlightenment, spirit,” has many more discoveries in store for you... wink

                      About how many wonderful discoveries
                      Prepare the spirit of enlightenment
                      And Experience, [son] of difficult errors,
                      And Genius, [paradoxes] friend,

                      used - Goal like a falcon.
                      Like a finger belay Did you think of it yourself?
                      1. +2
                        17 October 2015 12: 53
                        They say: “One, like a finger”
                      2. +2
                        17 October 2015 14: 43
                        Based on the comments I have read, I can conclude that you should not provide help to those who did not want it.
                      3. -1
                        17 October 2015 15: 04
                        Quote: captain
                        Based on the comments I have read, I can conclude that you should not provide help to those who did not want it.

                        Wonderful, as my mother says
                        -Never do anything you are not asked to do.
                      4. +6
                        17 October 2015 13: 30
                        Quote: atalef
                        How did you think of the finger?

                        Should you teach Russian? Etc Е-( И !) thought...
                  2. +4
                    17 October 2015 13: 31
                    Quote: atalef
                    what for ? At least we will not have disappointment --- from betrayal

                    stop So you still admit that the Bulgarians are traitors. At least “somehow,” according to your post above, they didn’t take the oath. You are completely confused in your Jewish verbiage. Oh, it won’t bring you any good, “they are no one’s brothers.”
                    It looks like your brother has a lot of wits, but you can’t smell the burning smell. hi
                    1. -2
                      17 October 2015 13: 55
                      Quote: Gronsky
                      So you still admit that the Bulgarians are traitors

                      No, you are sure of this.
                      I have always believed that only those who can betray can
                      1.Sworn
                      2.Promised
                      3. Was in a union
                      there was not one, nor a second, nor a third between Russia and Bulgaria
                      There were historical ties with the USSR - which have long been lost.
                      Quote: Gronsky
                      Oh, it won’t bring you any good, “they are no one’s brothers.”

                      You know, there is a very good proverb
                      The level of disappointment corresponds to the level of hope.
                      We don't rely on anyone, that's why we don't get disappointed.
                      1. +3
                        17 October 2015 14: 35
                        Quote: atalef
                        We don't rely on anyone

                        That's right, you have no one to rely on. You only have yourself to thank for this. wink
                      2. -5
                        17 October 2015 14: 37
                        Quote: Gronsky
                        Quote: atalef
                        We don't rely on anyone

                        That's right, you have no one to rely on. You only have yourself to thank for this. wink

                        Well, yes . but we are not disappointed.
                      3. +4
                        17 October 2015 14: 55
                        Loneliness is also not good. Love and disappointment teach the soul. You need to be more lively, not more pragmatic and soulless.
                      4. +5
                        17 October 2015 14: 57
                        And who else should we thank, my grandfather fought and saved Europe from fascism, now the Slavs are disfiguring and demolishing his monuments, should I thank them? Dear we are RUSSIANS and one of the kings said, “...Russia has two allies that will never betray, these are its army and navy,” so we only need to thank our ancestors for their great deeds, and the European Slavs are infected with tolerance and democracy, God be their judge...
                      5. +4
                        17 October 2015 17: 19
                        I have always believed that only those who can betray can
                        1.Sworn
                        2.Promised
                        3. Was in a union


                        You live on money and contracts.
                        They swore, they promised...
                        Here you and I will not find a common language.
                        Bulgarians are brothers in FAITH!
                        And they didn’t betray Russia at all.
                        I think you know what I mean.

                        Although it came from you - “chosen by God”))) laughing
                        The USA is now marching around the world with the same song - exceptional!

                        You all should stand out, jump out...
                        So Ukraine jumped wassat
                  3. +1
                    17 October 2015 19: 49
                    "At least we won't be disappointed by betrayal"
                    Has anyone ever sworn allegiance to you only to later betray you?
                  4. 0
                    17 October 2015 22: 18
                    You are not discussing, dear. You are getting out of it. Even here, on the forum, you are alone and GOAL LIKE A FALCON.
                3. 0
                  17 October 2015 14: 49
                  With most of these brothers there is no need for enemies.
                4. 740
                  0
                  17 October 2015 15: 28
                  Quote: Good Me
                  Let us sometimes have feuds between brothers, sometimes very dramatic ones.

                  Fuck such brothers. Half of these Slavs will have to be drained into a meat grinder if necessary. You won’t get anything from them except dirty tricks. There’s no point in slobbering. am
                5. 0
                  17 October 2015 19: 20
                  MAYBE THEY ARE THE SAME. BUT GET IN EVERYWHERE YOU POSSIBLE AND IMPOSSIBLE... AND WE WILL NOT BECOME UNITED, HOLDING TO EACH OTHER AND HELPING OUR FELLOW FELLOWS.
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                7. +3
                  17 October 2015 23: 13
                  Quote: Good I
                  Quote: atalef
                  It's strange that you call them brothers. despite the fact that in all the wars of the 20th century, they fought against Russia


                  This is envy speaking in you.

                  Let us sometimes have feuds between brothers, sometimes very dramatic ones, but you, BROTHERLY PEOPLES, have never had and never will.


                  YOU ARE ALONE, NAKED AS A FINGER...

                  Wash your face with cold water, GOOD ME! I don’t see a single one here that is friendly to the Russian flag, except the flag of Belarus. At the first whiff they'll hand over the radishes!
              2. +4
                17 October 2015 13: 35
                Quote: atalef
                It’s strange, you call them brothers

                Yes, excluding their "elite"
                Quote: atalef
                In general, I travel a lot and see how in 7 years, 600 hotels were built in Sunny Beach alone.

                laughing This is a ridiculous figure for an entire country. Don't tell my slippers! And the question is whether they built them or foreign oligarchs - there is a big difference.
                1. -10
                  17 October 2015 13: 56
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  This is a ridiculous figure for an entire country.

                  Bulgaria is a very small country
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  And the question is whether they built them or foreign oligarchs - there is a big difference.

                  No difference. Bulgarians work there and taxes remain there.
                  1. +2
                    17 October 2015 14: 11
                    Quote: atalef
                    No difference. Bulgarians work there and taxes remain there.

                    I would not say this with such confidence. In the European Union there are a lot of ways to avoid paying taxes at the physical location of the business. Which is often used by these Euro-schemers here in the Russian Federation. Taxes are paid at the place of registration of the business, and it is registered either in Germany or in England. Recently, ours have been forcing us to re-register such a business, or adios Amigo from the Russian Federation!
                    And just for your reference, in the Russian city of Sochi alone there are more than 10000 hotels! And you tell me about some 6 thousand as an achievement for all of Bulgaria lol
                    1. -5
                      17 October 2015 14: 26
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      I would not say this with such confidence.

                      Why
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      In the European Union there are a lot of ways not to pay taxes at the physical place of residence of the business object

                      This exists in any country, including Russia (if you are familiar with the concept of offshore), but are labor required? Construction, maintenance, infrastructure - all this is located in Bulgaria. people receive salaries, development is underway - this is already good

                      Quote: GSH-18
                      And just for your reference, in the Russian city of Sochi alone there are more than 10000 hotels

                      10 thousand? Are you seriously ?
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      And you tell me about some 6 thousand as an achievement for all of Bulgaria

                      In general, I was talking about 600 built in the Burgas area.
                      1. +2
                        17 October 2015 14: 53
                        Quote: atalef
                        In general, I was talking about 600 built in the Burgas area.

                        Are these one or two storey houses? Are you talking about them? I don’t even think there are such people in Sochi. I'm talking about full-fledged "star" hotels with infrastructure and an area of ​​3-10 hectares, their own beach and other bells and whistles.
                      2. -6
                        17 October 2015 15: 27
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Are these one or two storey houses? Are you talking about them? I don’t even think there are such people in Sochi.

                        Why ? Have you been to Burgas?
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I don’t even think there are such people in Sochi. I'm talking about full-fledged "star" hotels with infrastructure and an area of ​​3-10 hectares, their own beach and other bells and whistles.

                        of which there are 10 thousand in Sochi?
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And just for your reference, in the Russian city of Sochi alone there are more than 10000 hotels!
                      3. +2
                        17 October 2015 15: 36
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Are these one or two storey houses? Are you talking about them? I don’t even think there are such people in Sochi.

                        Why ? Have you been to Burgas?

                        Have you been to Sochi? Or did you just watch the Olympics?
                      4. -8
                        17 October 2015 15: 39
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Are these one or two storey houses? Are you talking about them? I don’t even think there are such people in Sochi.

                        Why ? Have you been to Burgas?

                        Have you been to Sochi? Or did you just watch the Olympics?

                        So I’m not saying anything about Sochi, except for some surprise at the 10 thousand hotels
                        Even taking into account that these hotels accommodate an average of 100 people, the number of guests should be....1 million belay
                      5. +2
                        17 October 2015 15: 55
                        Quote: atalef
                        Even taking into account that these hotels accommodate an average of 100 people, the number of guests should be....1

                        Well, I don’t know, if we just spread them out in an even layer on 17-25 floors... I think it would be unprofitable.
                        Dear, I understand that you apparently know little about the hotel business. I’ll just tell you that 100% occupancy is considered to be 60-70% real, these are 3-5 star standards. And during the summer season alone (2-3 months, everything else is called winter), 4-5 million tourists pass through THESE hotels. I won’t tell you in a year; I don’t know, to my own shame.
                      6. -5
                        17 October 2015 16: 01
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I don’t know, if we just spread them out in an even layer on 17-25 floors... I think it will be unprofitable.
                        Dear, I understand that you apparently know little about the hotel business

                        It's possible, but I'm good at math Yes
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I’ll just tell you that 100% occupancy is considered to be 60-70% real, these are 3-5 star standards. And during the summer season alone (2-3 months, everything else is called winter), 4-5 million tourists pass through THESE hotels. I won’t tell you in a year; I don’t know, to my own shame.

                        i.e. do you insist on the number of 10 thousand hotels in Sochi?
                  2. +3
                    17 October 2015 14: 31
                    Israel is a big country...A little smaller than the region in Ukraine...But with the influx of tourists from the former land of your birth, how many hotels were built annually? By the way, read about taxes in the EU - where and what, are registered, paid...Although, sorry, you about offshore companies (Israel is also an offshore company?)...
                    1. 0
                      17 October 2015 14: 39
                      Quote: victor
                      Israel is a great country...Slightly smaller than the region in Ukraine

                      Yes, I know. Every month I send my mother-in-law and father-in-law to Kyiv 300-500 bucks so that they don’t die of hunger.
                      1. +4
                        17 October 2015 14: 50
                        Quote: atalef
                        Yes, I know. Every month I send my mother-in-law and father-in-law to Kyiv 300-500 bucks so that they don’t die of hunger


                        Oh, and your relatives have requests...

                        The exchange rate of $ to "Khokhlobaks" is now 1:21 with kopecks... And considering that apparently the father-in-law and mother-in-law are pensioners, and receive, albeit a meager pension, but with an "increase" of 300-500 "bucks" in Ukraine, EVEN in conditions of inflation and the high cost of utilities, you can live quite comfortably, one might even say “in grand style”...
                      2. 0
                        17 October 2015 15: 06
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Oh, and your relatives have requests...

                        they don't ask, I believe that I am obliged to give them a human existence
                        Quote: Good Me
                        you can live quite comfortably, one might even say “in grand style”...

                        and they live well, but why should my wife’s parents live poorly?
                      3. +4
                        17 October 2015 14: 58
                        For the loot to the true uk... YOUR WIFE'S parents +! But why did you jump on the mayday, are your fellow tribesmen really the best in history (they said - you'll find it in the tube) - contempt... president and prime minister (represented in the << most famous Jews of Ukraine>> - the book was written by Jews) could not provide??? By the way, under the bloody Yanukovoche the salary in Kiev was 500 bucks, which the people of Kiev agreed to pay (this is not something to do...) How much is it now? I just haven’t been in 3 years capital of the mayday...
                      4. -5
                        17 October 2015 15: 30
                        Quote: victor
                        - contempt...president and prime minister (represented in <<the most famous Jews of Ukraine>> - the book was written by Jews) could not provide

                        I don’t know what this incomprehensible set of words is.
                        But this is the power. which you have chosen laughing
                        Quote: victor
                        By the way, under the bloody Yanukovo, the salary in Kyiv was 500 bucks, which the people of Kiev agreed to pay (this is not something to do...) How much is it now? I just haven’t been in the capital of the Maydaun for 3 years...

                        In vain, it’s a very beautiful city, I’ve been twice this year.
                        Income, of course, has fallen, but it’s okay, somehow they live.
                      5. +1
                        17 October 2015 15: 44
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: victor
                        Israel is a great country...Slightly smaller than the region in Ukraine

                        Yes, I know. Every month I send my mother-in-law and father-in-law to Kyiv 300-500 bucks so that they don’t die of hunger.

                        Here the scheme is well-known and simple. Money comes to Israel from America, so that everyone thinks that it’s fun there and that it’s nonsense. Well, people like you send them to their relatives in the countries of the former socialist camp and the USSR. So, for your reference, 10 thousand of your compatriots (is this not half of Israel by any chance? lol ) have already expressed a passionate desire to move to our Russian Crimea. Apparently very tired of the Euro-Atlantic standard of living laughing
                      6. -3
                        17 October 2015 16: 03
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        k, for your reference, 10 thousand of your compatriots (is this not the gender of Israel by any chance?) have already expressed an ardent desire to move to our Russian Crimea. Apparently very tired of the Euro-Atlantic standard of living

                        Strange, why is this 10t? belay
                        This fake from six months ago included a figure of 40 thousand. So how ? Has anyone arrived? laughing
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Money comes to Israel from America, so that everyone thinks that it’s fun there and that it’s nonsense.

                        Of course it's nonsense
                      7. +1
                        17 October 2015 16: 44
                        Quote: atalef
                        Strange, why is this 10t? belay

                        Now, I’ll try to reproduce it, I watched on TV, they showed our Jew (he is the head of an organization involved in the resettlement of compatriots from the Promised Land and back) I don’t remember his name, it was a long time ago, between the 13th and 14th years. Well, that's what he said. Of these 10 thousand, a decent percentage previously lived in Crimea (under Ukraine). Something like this, I can’t remember anything else, call me Yes
                      8. -6
                        17 October 2015 16: 49
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Now, I’ll try to reproduce it, I watched on TV, they showed our Jew (he is the head of an organization involved in the resettlement of compatriots from the Promised Land and back)

                        He's promoting himself, he wants money
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I don’t remember his name, it was a long time ago, between the 13th and 14th years

                        Come on, half a year ago
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Well, that's what he said. Of these 10 thousand, a decent percentage previously lived in Crimea (under Ukraine). Something like this, I can’t remember anything else, call me

                        I remember
                        30.06.15
                        40 thousand Jews turned to Russian President Vladimir Putin with a request to grant them Russian citizenship. All of them left Crimea after the collapse of the USSR and moved to Israel for permanent residence. Now they want to return to their homeland again and participate in the life of their native country.

                        This initiative was voiced by the chairman of the board of the Regional public organization “Crimean Forum for the Protection of Constitutional Rights of Citizens” Leonid Grach. The KryMedia portal reported this today. According to the politician, Alexander Redko, the leader of the Progressive Liberal Democratic Party of Israel, approached him with such an unusual request.

                        So how ? Have you arrived?
                      9. 0
                        18 October 2015 01: 57
                        Worthy of respect. Poor relatives need to be helped.
              3. +5
                17 October 2015 14: 04
                Quote: atalef
                It’s strange, you call them brothers

                This is what they called us during the Union.
                1. -3
                  17 October 2015 14: 12
                  Quote: saturn.mmm
                  This is what they called us during the Union.

                  The Union is over.
                  And the Georgians were brothers, the Ukrainians and the Baltic states. The CMEA and Warsaw Pact countries.
                  But everyone fled, and for some reason towards Europe.
                  1. +4
                    17 October 2015 14: 59
                    Everything from the complexes of small nationalities, and the habit of free living that existed under the Union. The former Soviet subsidies are no longer there, but the habit of living well remains. So they rushed to the EU, hoping for a former freebie.
              4. +2
                17 October 2015 18: 46
                It is not the Bulgarians who are building, the Germans are building for themselves and their loved ones. Bulgaria has long been a pocket resort for them, and the Bulgarians are faithful servants. You wouldn’t know if you go there often.
            2. +2
              17 October 2015 13: 04
              In response to the Bulgarian-phobes spitting on everyone, they gave clear, reasoned and well-founded answers, here are these three videos:





              Who wants to know the TRUTH, let him look and think carefully! And whoever does not want and is not interested in the TRUTH, let him continue to drown in his hatred and stupidity. No one has caused more harm to Russia than the Russians themselves. I mean those ignorant of them who continue to produce enemies and enemies everywhere, even among their closest and fraternal peoples.
              1. +8
                17 October 2015 13: 58
                Of course, the Russians are to blame - they fought against themselves in two world wars, they joined NATO against their Bulgarian brothers, they cut down a gas pipeline that was beneficial only to Bulgarian-phobes... CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm really in awe of those the true enemies of Russia - the Russians << Whoever wants to know the TRUTH, let him look and think carefully! And whoever does not want and is not interested in the TRUTH, let him continue to drown in his hatred and stupidity. No one has caused more harm to Russia than the Russians themselves. I mean those ignorant of them who continue to create enemies and enemies everywhere, even among their closest and fraternal peoples.>>
              2. +3
                17 October 2015 14: 14
                You seem to be not a bad person, and you value relations with Russia, but I support your expressions about bad Russians and the harm they caused to themselves - for which there is a minus! If you didn’t free the Bulgarians and Romanians, you wouldn’t have received enemies. The Turks would have remained enemies , and not the Russian liberators. Serbia would not have received a blow from the brothers - or are the Serbs not brothers??? I can still rant, but I won’t. Purely in memory of those two Bulgarian girls with whom I corresponded during my school years under the damned, especially for Bulgarians, EU MEMBERS, Soviet regime. Good luck to you among the 30% of those who left your fraternal country Russia.
                1. +2
                  17 October 2015 14: 46
                  Victor, watch the videos again... Carefully and impartially! Especially the last video! I recommend that you look at it on maps. They impartially and categorically give answers to questions - who, how and why! Russia has been fighting for the Straits for centuries! As a result of these wars, Greece, Serbia, Romania and Bulgaria gained their independence. The desire of Russian policy to seize the Straits, as the main goal of Russia, is in no way diminished by the feat of the Russian people, which liberated all these peoples from Ottoman slavery! But come on, think at least theoretically, would Russia go to liberate these peoples from the Ottoman yoke if they lived, for example, on the shores of North Africa? It’s unlikely... And ask yourself one more question! How did it happen that of all the above-mentioned countries, only Bulgaria, now finds itself with a territory and borders half as large as the one that Russia liberated? Why do Greece and Romania and even Serbia, within their current borders, occupy much more territory than they had at the time of their liberation? Moreover, large parts of their current territory are occupied by areas once inhabited by the Bulgarians, WHICH RUSSIA ITSELF LIBERATED AND CREATED SAN STEFAN BULGARIA ON THEM! For an unbiased observer, something else looks strange... Why don’t you scold and attack the Greeks, who have been in NATO for a long time! Why don’t you scold the Romanians, who have tripled their territory, while still managing not to win a single battle! And they fought on the eastern front with their entire army! They are now also in NATO, and even during the Warsaw War, they were hardly your faithful allies! Why do you always write about the Serbs in superlative terms, forgetting that Titus Yugoslavia was quite seriously considered by the ATS command as a potential enemy country! Bulgaria was the most loyal ally of the USSR for 50 years and kept one of its 3 armies in the Yugoslav direction! Do you know this? For some reason, I don’t see such intensity of hysteria in your media towards these countries and peoples as towards the Bulgarians! Strange! don't you think? I have my own explanation, but it’s hardly worth explaining it here. Not everything is as simple and elementary as it is presented in Russia! Understand and think carefully!
                  1. +6
                    17 October 2015 15: 06
                    So no one has ever called Greeks, Romanians, or Hungarians brothers. And the Bulgarians called the Russian liberators “brothers” and swore eternal friendship. But, nothing lasts forever under the sun, just like the oaths of the “brothers”.
              3. 740
                +2
                17 October 2015 15: 51
                Quote: pytar
                No one has caused more harm to Russia than the Russians themselves. I mean those ignorant of them who continue to produce enemies and enemies everywhere, even among their closest and fraternal peoples.

                You should get out of here with such a bazaar. I really hope that Russian blood will no longer be shed to save the Bulgarians. I don’t respect myself to harness myself to you. Damn brothers.
                1. -6
                  17 October 2015 17: 31
                  [quote][/quote]You should get the hell out of here with such a bazaar. I really hope that Russian blood will no longer be shed to save the Bulgarians. I don’t respect myself to harness myself to you. Damn brothers.[/quote]

                  Choose your expressions. and as for the shed Russian blood, the Bulgarians are grateful for this, but stop speculating on this and blaming the Bulgarians for achieving their geopolitical interests! For centuries they fought with the Turks for access to warm seas and for the straits! One of the many Russian-Turkish wars coincided with the Liberation (partial, and it did not receive independence). But where you should make claims about Russian blood being shed to please foreign countries, without any benefit for Russia, is the defeat of Napoleon under Alexander 1. How much Russian blood was shed then and to please whom? What did Russia gain from this by driving Napoleon's troops through the Alps? Why don’t you constantly shout to Western and Eastern Europeans PRI-II-DA-AAA-TI-LIIIIIII!? A?
                  1. 740
                    0
                    17 October 2015 18: 33
                    Quote: but still
                    Choose your expressions. and about the shed Russian blood, why don’t you constantly shout to Western and Eastern Europeans PRI-II-DA-AA-TI-LIIIIIII!? A?

                    Hey! Western gay Europeans have always been swindlers, but now I will watch with satisfaction how the true believers will jihad them.
                    Your gratitude is awesome. In 2 world wars they were against us. You desecrate monuments to the Soviet wars to please the Amer’s owners. It’s great that you caved in to them. I have listed good fellow tribesmen below. Pulling the burden for the rest is like spitting on your plate.
                    I won’t grieve over the extravagances; the ideal option is to take the Russians out of their countries to become historical ones.
                    1. +1
                      17 October 2015 20: 10
                      Quote: 740
                      Hey! Western gay Europeans have always been swindlers, but now I will watch with satisfaction how the true believers will jihad them.
                      Your gratitude is awesome. In 2 world wars they were against us. You desecrate monuments to Soviet wars to please the Amer masters

                      1. Yeah, they are scoundrels, you say, but they have no guts to yell at them as TRAITORS, right? And you are yelling at the Bulgarians, because... Bulgarians are grateful and appreciative, so you put pressure on them! Have you found some kind of “weak link” in the “geyrope”?! So, with your unfair behavior towards the Bulgarians, you are making things worse for yourself - those who were sympathetic to Russia, after your unfair and undeserved accusations, will turn against you.
                      Are you gloating about the problems with migrants in the EU? Are you saying that you will watch with satisfaction as they are “jihaded”? Are you out of your mind? And I, like millions of Bulgarians, sympathized with you when you had terrorist attacks in Beslan, and in Moscow, and in Volgograd... I hope that there will be no new reasons for sympathy.

                      2. So much has already been written about both world wars that I don’t have the strength to write again - read Peter’s comments - he states everything truthfully and fairly (his comments are in all topics). I’ll add just one curious detail - during WWII, the Soviet embassy worked in Sofia throughout the war, and according to the ambassador’s son, embassy children even allowed themselves to throw stones at passing patrols from behind the fence of the embassy in the center of Sofia, and these pranks were not punished in any way - it’s like that in peacetime boys, playing football, broke someone’s window smile . The ambassador’s son also described a case when food supply was tight, so the employees of the Soviet embassy went to some village near Sofia to buy food - so they collected food from every yard for the Soviet embassy, ​​gave them a live lamb - they didn’t take any money (here, traitors , Hitler's allies wink ) - so, as a boy, he remembered how the embassy cook deliciously prepared a lamb... At the beginning of September 1944, the Soviet ambassador to Bulgaria handed over a message about the USSR declaring war on Bulgaria. The Bulgarians did not fight on the eastern front, and from the end of September 1944 the Bulgarian army fought together with the USSR army - which is well known to everyone.

                      3. Regarding the monument, read the comments to the post with photographs of the monument to the Soviet army - the last vandalism was committed by YOUR RUSSIAN citizen.
                      1. 740
                        -1
                        17 October 2015 20: 58
                        Quote: but still
                        but they have no guts to yell TRAITORS at them, right?

                        The guts are not small. They were never close to us, they just flogged the joints. I don’t see a problem in the bloody massacre between refugees and Europeans.
                        Quote: but still
                        Are you gloating about the problems with migrants in the EU? Are you saying that you will watch with satisfaction as they are “jihaded”? Are you out of your mind?

                        In their own minds. They got what they deserved. Let them slurp.
                        You, too, prepare for the fact that your state will become, at best, a stable for immigrants professing Islam.
                        Quote: but still
                        So much has already been written about both world wars that I don’t have the strength to write again - read Peter’s comments

                        I'm not interested in what he writes.
                        Quote: but still
                        As for the monument, read the comments to the post with photographs of the monument to the Soviet army - the last vandalism was committed by YOUR RUSSIAN citizen.

                        Liberal bastard. There is an article in the Russian Federation for such a thing. In the former socialist countries and union republics, where there are monuments to Red Army soldiers, criminal punishment should also be practiced.
                2. 0
                  18 October 2015 00: 18
                  Quote: 740
                  Quote: pytar
                  No one has caused more harm to Russia than the Russians themselves. I mean those ignorant of them who continue to produce enemies and enemies everywhere, even among their closest and fraternal peoples.

                  You should get out of here with such a bazaar. I really hope that Russian blood will no longer be shed to save the Bulgarians. I don’t respect myself to harness myself to you. Damn brothers.

                  Rough, but right on target! +100 hi
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          2. +4
            17 October 2015 11: 56
            I don’t support those who minus the Star of David - for me it’s a complete “ignore”

            No offense, just IMHO
          3. +3
            17 October 2015 12: 04
            Where are they moving atalef?
            1. +14
              17 October 2015 12: 13
              Atalef wrote:
              I see how in 7 years, 600 hotels were built on Sunny Beach alone.

              He wanted to write “brothels”, but his hand trembled...
              1. +4
                17 October 2015 12: 31
                Yes, even if it’s hotels... That’s also an achievement for me. And how many of our naive compatriots bought housing there! Now many people are biting their elbows. The Bulgarians unexpectedly changed the rules of the game. During the game itself against the Russians.
                1. -12
                  17 October 2015 12: 39
                  Quote: mike_z
                  Yes, even if it’s hotels... That’s also an achievement for me. And how many of our naive compatriots bought housing there!

                  A lot, but why didn’t you buy it in Russia?
                  Quote: mike_z
                  Now many people are biting their elbows. The Bulgarians unexpectedly changed the rules of the game. During the game itself against the Russians

                  Which rules ? A friend of mine bought a 3-room apartment in Burgas a month ago, 18 thousand euros.
                  1. +3
                    17 October 2015 12: 42
                    The rules for the maintenance and provision of public services have changed greatly there. Prices have increased. My friends are now biting their elbows - maintenance costs have increased. And prices for real estate themselves have fallen everywhere.
                    1. -5
                      17 October 2015 12: 46
                      Quote: mike_z
                      The rules for the maintenance and provision of public services have changed greatly there. Prices have increased. My friends are now biting their elbows - maintenance costs have increased. And prices for real estate themselves have fallen everywhere.

                      400 euros per year.
                      By the way, why does this seem to only affect Russians?
                      1. +2
                        17 October 2015 12: 57
                        No, of course, not only Russians. It’s just that when the guys (my poor friends) bought an apartment there (or a townhouse, I don’t remember), I skeptically advised them to buy near St. Petersburg. They didn’t listen, now 400 euros is very expensive for them. They don't know what to do. Apparently acceptable for Europeans... I don't bother.
                      2. -1
                        17 October 2015 13: 02
                        Quote: mike_z
                        I skeptically advised them to buy near St. Petersburg. They didn’t listen, now 400 euros is very expensive for them.

                        400 euros is not a lot of money and the problem is not that prices have risen in Bulgaria. The problem is that in Russia real incomes have fallen.
                        In general, in my opinion, buying an apartment in Bulgaria is not economically justified.
                        It makes no sense.
                        You were right, near St. Petersburg - the purchase would be more effective.
                      3. +1
                        17 October 2015 13: 06
                        Quote: atalef
                        buying an apartment in Bulgaria is not economically justified.
                        It makes no sense.

                        That's exactly what I'm talking about. Like looking into the water. It was about 5 years ago. But my opinion is not an expert one. I just personally know such a family, they are disappointed. And they say that the neighbors are Russian too.
                      4. +3
                        17 October 2015 14: 07
                        Quote: atalef
                        You were right, near St. Petersburg - the purchase would be more effective.


                        Are you preparing escape routes? Calm down, we will "work" ISIS...

                        Don't be afraid, sit straight on your butt.
                      5. -7
                        17 October 2015 14: 15
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Are you preparing escape routes? U

                        belay
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Calm down, we will "work" ISIS

                        First, work on Novorossiya
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Don't be afraid, sit straight on your butt.

                        Don't worry about us, we can handle it. Not for the first time.
                      6. +3
                        17 October 2015 14: 27
                        Quote: atalef
                        First, work on Novorossiya

                        Oooh HOW!!! Novorossiya, for you, is on a par with ISIS, which is now being destroyed by our Aerospace Forces, Navy and Coalition?

                        If only you would sit in... Haifa, your own, and not stick your sting out at the patriotic website of Russia...
                      7. -5
                        17 October 2015 14: 43
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Oooh HOW!!! Novorossiya, for you, is on a par with ISIS,

                        no, these are completely different concepts. I just don’t understand. why do you need to save Syria. but Novorossia seems to be done away with

                        Quote: Good Me
                        , which our air forces, fleet and coalition are now destroying?

                        It’s good that they are destroying, the fewer bandits at the borders, the better.

                        Quote: Good Me
                        If only you would sit in... Haifa, your own, and not stick your sting out at the patriotic website of Russia...

                        bring me to Chs - and you will be happy hi
                      8. +2
                        17 October 2015 14: 57
                        Quote: atalef
                        no, these are completely different concepts. I just don’t understand. why do you need to save Syria. but Novorossia seems to be done away with


                        You do not "skip" from the topic, in your worst national traditions ...

                        Wrote "work Novorossiya", and keep the answer for the written ...

                        If you wanted to write something wrong, you made a mistake, you expressed your thought incorrectly, CORRECT it, clarify your position...
                        Quote: atalef
                        bring me to Chs - and you will be happy
                        Masochist?

                        This is for you, there will be happiness that I will not provide tongue
                      9. -4
                        17 October 2015 15: 33
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Don’t “jump off” the topic, in the worst of your national traditions

                        Quote: Good Me
                        Wrote "work Novorossiya", and keep the answer for the written ...

                        I keep it that way, and WHERE is it - well, Novorossiya?
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Masochist?

                        This is for you, there will be happiness that I will not provide

                        then suffer laughing
                      10. 0
                        18 October 2015 00: 11
                        First, work on Novorossiya
                        Gentlemen, Israelis, show your innate intelligence, on this resource you have already been told many times: we will get ALL of Ukraine, together with Novorossiya. Why do you discredit yourself every time?
                      11. +8
                        17 October 2015 13: 58
                        Prices for real estate along the Bulgarian Black Sea coast are the lowest in Europe. They are much lower in prices in Russia itself. But if you buy in Bulgaria, you must definitely consult with competent and TRUSTED specialists, since Bulgarian legislation / like all legislation in foreign countries / has its own peculiarities! Without knowing them, you can get very upset! I was surprised more than once to learn how the Russians sign treaties without even reading what is written in them! Keep in mind that the vast majority of properties in Bulgaria that are sold to Russian buyers are being built by Russian investors and are not associated with Bulgarian law firms! Often, obligations for the buyer are made so that the seller receives more profit not from the sale itself, but from subsequent “support, security, etc.” the same real estate. For this reason, utility costs for such dwellings are often tens of times higher than for an ordinary dwelling, given such parameters. Read the contracts you sign and consult with specialists! If anyone is interested, they can write to me in a personal message. I will always be happy to give advice or consultation for free.
                      12. -4
                        17 October 2015 15: 03
                        Peter, you disappointed me. It's a pity. I believe that this site is not the place for consultations and advice in private regarding commercial matters. Even if it's free.
                      13. +3
                        17 October 2015 15: 18
                        Free means Free! It doesn’t even smell like commerce! If I can help people, then it’s completely selfless and I’ll be glad. It doesn't matter what the question is! Although, I agree that it was probably impossible to write such a thing here in that topic. I apologize to those who were offended by this reason.
                      14. 0
                        17 October 2015 16: 41
                        Quote: pytar
                        Free means Free!


                        smile Well, okay, we know all about free tours to Bulgaria to get acquainted with real estate and free seminars in Moscow at foreign real estate exhibitions. Themselves with a mustache smile Go for it. Bearing in mind that in the comments the topic of the failure of the air corridor was transferred by some readers from Russia, Ukraine and Israel to a discussion of the cost and maintenance of real estate, the latter topic is clearly of interest to readers, although, I repeat, on this site, in my opinion, it has no place. But, bearing in mind the demographic problems in Bulgaria (and Russia has very successfully solved its demographic problems by accepting 800 thousand - a million citizens of Ukraine), I support with both hands and feet the resettlement of Russian-speaking citizens to Bulgaria (and Russian-speaking Israelis are generally delighted with the fact that prices whiskey is 2-3 times cheaper, and because rakia is cheaper than Coca-Cola smile). Everywhere we dig there is complete archeology! fellow Everything is being done right now in Bulgaria - it is turning into a complete open-air museum. The oldest processed gold in the world, found on the territory of Bulgaria, was recently exhibited in the European Parliament. A blessed country for living and tourism. But Musachevo’s billion-dollar project - Ravno Pole, as soon as it’s launched... I won’t rant any more - Bulgaria doesn’t need advertising. Everyone who reads and thinks knows everything themselves and can find out smile
                    2. +4
                      17 October 2015 13: 09
                      mike_z, if your friends bought apartments in resort complexes, you should have read the contracts carefully first! There are clauses there that no normal Bulgarian would accept, but foreigners willingly accept paying more for utility bills than if they rented the same property! True, this is how it is in guarded gated complexes. By the way, most of them were built by Russian investors for sale to Russian citizens. The Bulgarians have nothing to do with this. Deal with your Russians. And if you buy a normal apartment, like most of those sold, then there are no problems with utility costs. Nothing has increased.
                      1. +1
                        17 October 2015 13: 28
                        Thanks, I'll find out and write. They bought in a resort area, close to the sea. In my opinion, the conditions of stay have changed. Let me clarify. In general - disappointed. And maybe It’s our businessmen who have done a lot of things, those guys!
                      2. +2
                        17 October 2015 13: 51
                        You can write to me in a personal message if you wish. I will be happy to help and give advice if needed. hi
                      3. +2
                        18 October 2015 02: 13
                        Bratched, you know Russian, why don’t you write correctly? Are you speaking to the alien on purpose?
                  2. 0
                    17 October 2015 14: 39
                    Friend - citizen of Russia??? We can buy 2-3 apartments... The question is which ones.
                2. 0
                  17 October 2015 15: 02
                  Quote: mike_z
                  And how many of our naive compatriots bought housing there! Now many people are biting their elbows.

                  I wish I could listen to them!
              2. +2
                17 October 2015 12: 35
                Quote: sabakina
                He wanted to write “brothels”, but his hand trembled...


                Well...They build HOTELS, and only then, poor Bulgarians (I immediately remember the angle grinder laughing ), they are used in intimate business...

                Yes... Not like that, we saw Bulgaria during the USSR...
              3. -1
                17 October 2015 12: 38
                Quote: sabakina
                He wanted to write “brothels”, but his hand trembled...

                Well, there are plenty of brothels there too.
                AND ? Are there no brothels in Russia? Maybe they are not in Europe? Or in the States?
                Knowing the presence or absence of brothels doesn’t tell me anything.
              4. 0
                17 October 2015 13: 45
                Quote: sabakina
                Atalef wrote:
                I see how in 7 years, 600 hotels were built on Sunny Beach alone.

                He wanted to write “brothels”, but his hand trembled...

                lol for Ukrainian maids!
              5. +1
                17 October 2015 14: 57
                Quote: sabakina
                He wanted to write “brothels”, but his hand trembled...

                Have you been there? smile You like it ? hi
            2. -5
              17 October 2015 12: 36
              Quote: KSergey
              Where are they moving atalef?

              Bulgarians, or what?
              To a better life - I hope.
              In any case, that's what they want.
              1. +2
                17 October 2015 12: 50
                Quote: atalef
                Bulgarians, or what?
                To a better life - I hope.
                In any case, that's what they want.


                They went to the wrong place... Like many, they chased the cheapness.

                But God is their judge in this. The time will come, they will crawl and ask for help.

                How can I not remember: “Don’t spit in the well...”
                1. -3
                  17 October 2015 12: 58
                  Quote: Good Me
                  They went to the wrong place... Like many, they chased the cheapness.

                  Your alternative?
                  Quote: Good Me
                  But God is their judge in this. The time will come, they will crawl and ask for help.

                  It’s strange, but you use this in relation to all countries and for some reason always in the future tense, and what if they don’t crawl?
                  Quote: Good Me
                  How can I not remember: “Don’t spit in the well...”

                  Let’s put it this way, I don’t know what interests prompted the Bulgarians to close their airspace, but I think this gesture speaks of a completely complicated relationship between Russia and Bulgaria.
                  I don’t know the reasons, there is a Yolgarin here, maybe he will explain.
                  But all this is not born in one day.
                  And let’s just say that both in Bulgaria and in Russia - they don’t consider each other as brothers for a long time.
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2015 13: 08
                    Quote: atalef
                    Your alternative?


                    For us there is no other alternative but to gain power and become a “center of gravity”, and there are prerequisites for this.

                    Quote: atalef
                    It’s strange, but you use this in relation to all countries and for some reason always in the future tense, and what if they don’t crawl?


                    They will crawl (read the answer above), here is the answer to: “Why in the future tense.”

                    The Russians are slowly harnessing...

                    All countries? For some reason, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, CHINA, who take a balanced and friendly position in relations with us, do not need to “crawl”...

                    Quote: atalef
                    Let’s put it this way, I don’t know what interests prompted the Bulgarians to close their airspace, but I think this gesture speaks of a completely complicated relationship between Russia and Bulgaria.


                    I know what and WHOSE interests forced Bulgaria to close its airspace.

                    Because, DEPENDENT...
                    1. 0
                      17 October 2015 13: 23
                      Quote: Good Me
                      For us there is no other alternative but to gain power and become a “center of gravity”, and there are prerequisites for this

                      Well, if you can’t offer an alternative, what are your complaints?
                      Quote: Good Me
                      The Russians are slowly harnessing...

                      Again in the future tense, did you notice?
                      Quote: Good Me
                      All countries? For some reason, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, CHINA, which occupy a balanced and friendly position in relations with us, do not need to “crawl.”

                      China definitely doesn’t need to crawl. They're creeping towards China
                      Quote: Good Me
                      I know what and WHOSE interests forced Bulgaria to close its airspace.

                      Because, they are DEPENDENT.

                      Yes, in the modern World there are no independent people at all.
                      1. +1
                        17 October 2015 13: 49
                        Quote: atalef
                        Yes, in the modern World there are no independent people at all.


                        Yes, but some depend on the “oil and gas needle” (no matter how bad it is), while others depend on the “good guy” who can “throw” at any moment...

                        You, “God’s chosen ones”, are dependent on “Uncle Sam”, not least of all...
                      2. -1
                        17 October 2015 13: 59
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Yes, but some depend on the “oil and gas needle” (even if it’s wrong), while others depend on the “good guy” who can “throw” at any moment

                        And oil prices will fall.
                        There are no absolutely independent people now
                        There are some that depend to a greater or lesser extent
                        Quote: Good Me
                        You, “God’s chosen ones”, are dependent on “Uncle Sam”, not least of all...

                        So what ?
                      3. +2
                        17 October 2015 14: 21
                        Quote: atalef
                        So what ?


                        And the fact that they will THROW you like a frayed condom...

                        And in general, pay attention to the position of the very (VERY!) intelligent Jew Yakov Kedmi, and his assessment of the role of the United States in involving Israel in various dirty tricks.

                        It’s a pity, of course, that Yakov is “not allowed to enter” the Russian Federation...

                        Having such an “enemy” is a hundred times better than a “friend” atalefwho sees nothing wrong with the junta in Ukraine, the occupation of Donbass, and sees signs of religious disagreement in Russia...
                      4. -2
                        17 October 2015 14: 33
                        Quote: Good Me
                        And the fact that they will THROW you like a frayed condom.

                        again in the future tense? Live the present laughing
                        Quote: Good Me
                        And in general, pay attention to the position of the very (VERY!) intelligent Jew Yakov Kedmi, and his assessment of the role of the United States in involving Israel in various dirty tricks.

                        Yakov Kedmi has been very engaged for a long time, since he began working on Russian TV channels; in Israel (when he tried to break into the Knesset) he said something completely different
                        Quote: Good Me
                        It’s a pity, of course, that Yakov is “not allowed to enter” the Russian Federation...

                        belay . seriously ?
                        and who banned it?


                        Quote: Good Me
                        Having such an “enemy” is a hundred times better than a “friend” atalef, who sees nothing wrong with the junta in Ukraine,

                        so I don’t see anything good in her, I don’t care about her
                        Quote: Good Me
                        occupation of Donbass, and seeing signs of religious disagreement in Russia...

                        What is it like ?
                      5. +1
                        17 October 2015 15: 17
                        Quote: atalef
                        What is it like ?


                        That's how :

                        atalef (9) IL 12 October 2015 13: 01 ↑
                        Quote: Sterlya
                        I’ll answer as a Muslim. Muslims of Russia will tear not only jellyfish, but also their creators
                        What does the jellyfish have to do with it?
                        By the way. as a Muslim, answer me a small question, why didn’t one spiritual leader of Muslims of Russia openly support a military operation in Syria?


                        And, moreover, they did this very stubbornly, referring to “the fact that you are not aware of the facts of support”, “their insufficiency”, consistently, in several comments...

                        Only after the interview with the Mufti of all Muslims of the Russian Federation was presented to you, you had to quietly crawl away like a beaten dog...

                        Why are you so persistent in trying to find differences in the religious and national spheres of our life?
                      6. -4
                        17 October 2015 15: 25
                        Quote: Good Me
                        That's how :

                        Well, yes . what else should he say?
                        Unlike those in the tank, I look at the numbers, and they say one thing
                        5 tons of Russians (Muslims) are fighting for ISIS and not a single one for Assad - but of course they support hi
                        Quote: Good Me
                        Why are you so persistent in trying to find differences in the religious and national spheres of our life?

                        Yes, you don’t have any disagreements in religious areas.
                        You don’t have them anywhere or in anything at all. And everyone is approved and divided and united - only the numbers rarely lie.
                      7. +1
                        17 October 2015 15: 41
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, yes . what else should he say?


                        That is, you no longer deny the support of the clergy?

                        But this is EXACTLY what you “POSED ON”...

                        Quote: atalef
                        5 tons of Russians (Muslims) are fighting for ISIS and not a single one for Assad - but of course they support

                        5-7 thousand Muslims COMING FROM the USSR, do not confuse God’s gift with scrambled eggs...You are misinterpreting again.

                        Kadyrov’s initiative, which by the way did not find the support of the President, is not known to you? After all, you deliberately distort the facts, despite the fact that they are obvious...

                        All you have to do is whistle...

                        In general, everything is for you, “God’s dew”...


                      8. 0
                        17 October 2015 14: 22
                        Oh! So Israel is dependent, and is creeping towards China??? Or???
                      9. -5
                        17 October 2015 14: 47
                        Quote: victor
                        Oh! So Israel is dependent

                        well, to a lesser extent than Ukraine
                        Quote: victor
                        and creeping towards China??? Or

                        Or is he coming to us?

                        China-Israel: a perfect partnership
                        According to incomplete data (and the State Bank of Israel bases its reports not on declared amounts, but on amounts that have already been processed by banks), direct investment from abroad amounted to $8,2 billion last year. Direct means investing directly in a particular enterprise or industry, not counting purchases of shares and securities on the stock exchange (which, by the way, also attract foreign investors) and trade turnover between Israel and other countries.
                        Until recently, Israel's list of foreign investors consisted mainly of European and American names. But over the past two years, Asian companies have actively entered our market, or rather, broken into it. The main player among them was China. Looking at the list of Israeli enterprises he acquired, partially or completely, one can only be amazed at the appetite and diversified interests of the Chinese. High-tech, medicine (again, taking into account high-tech technologies), transport, construction, agriculture, food, tourism - it seems that it is already difficult to name an industry in which our Chinese partners would not participate to one degree or another.
                  2. +1
                    17 October 2015 14: 20
                    Sometimes you at least find Wikisra...well, you find it, use it???Read the population under the damned commies, even now. Even of -7,2 and 1990-8,8...Where did 1,6 go???This is about Bulgaria .
                  3. +1
                    17 October 2015 15: 08
                    Quote: atalef
                    It’s strange, but you use this in relation to all countries and for some reason always in the future tense, and what if they don’t crawl?

                    With a feeling of deep disappointment... admit hi
                2. +2
                  18 October 2015 02: 15
                  Do you remember who spat in the well first?
              2. +1
                17 October 2015 13: 50
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: KSergey
                Where are they moving atalef?

                Bulgarians, or what?
                To a better life - I hope.
                In any case, that's what they want.

                Through thorns to the stars, as I understand it lol
                Wanting and having, as you know, are two different people. Why then do young people leave for old Europe? Raise Bulgaria?
                1. -3
                  17 October 2015 14: 01
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  fathering and having, as you know, are two different people.

                  Of course. And this applies to everyone
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Why then do young people leave for old Europe? Raise Bulgaria?

                  The problem, of course, exists everywhere.
                  In Russia from the provinces to Moscow, in Bulgaria to Europe.
                  A person is looking for something better, it’s hard to blame him for this.
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2015 14: 38
                    Quote: atalef
                    The problem, of course, exists everywhere.
                    In Russia from the provinces to Moscow, in Bulgaria to Europe.
                    A person is looking for something better, it’s hard to blame him for this.

                    No, you know, in the Russian Federation this process has recently decreased significantly due to the emergence of regional centers of business and labor activity. Each region has its own - where are the mines, factories being built, where is the chemical industry (for example, in the Krasnodar Territory it is Nevinomyssk), where is the microelectronics - Mordovia for example, the pharmaceutical industry - new Russian factories in Krasnodar and Rostov, in general I won’t list it - it’s ALL sectors of the national economy. And we are not going to take them to China. Thanks to the sanctions, now we will definitely have our own competitive production.
                    And mind you, people from Russia are no longer eager to go to Europe, to put it mildly. Now a reverse trend is already visible - those who left the Russian Federation in the 90s are returning home, and even taking Europeans and Americans with them.
                    1. -3
                      17 October 2015 15: 16
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      No, you know, in the Russian Federation this process has recently decreased significantly due to the emergence of regional centers of business and labor activity.

                      OK . But has there been a trend? When something similar appears in Bulgaria, the same outflow will stop

                      Quote: GSH-18
                      And mind you, people from Russia are no longer eager to go to Europe, to put it mildly

                      You know, I always look at statistics, numbers are more honest than propaganda.

                      this year (2015) in Russia the maximum number of applications for a Green Card was submitted, more than 219000, the quota for Russia is 3800 Green Cards per year.

                      Can I have statistics?
                      and more people left Russia in the first eight months of 2014 than in any full year since 2000, Rosstat data shows. In January - August 2014, 203 people emigrated from the Russian Federation. For comparison, during the same period in 659, 2013 citizens left the country for permanent residence.

                      For the entire 2013 year, 186 382 people “dropped out” of the Russian Federation, and this was the maximum since 1999 of the year (when 214 963 people left the country).
                      1. +1
                        17 October 2015 16: 18
                        Quote: atalef
                        You know, I always look at statistics, numbers are more honest than propaganda

                        You know, I won’t bother looking at official statistics, because I know how many people from the former Ukraine have moved to us. So a decent percentage (mostly specialists of various professions) of these refugees asked for Russian citizenship. And if, by means of a simple arithmetic operation, we subtract the number of those who lost their Russian citizenship from the number of those who received (or are awaiting a decision), you will get a good debit. You have no doubt about it. And I gave you just one specific case.
          4. +9
            17 October 2015 12: 11
            This is you in vain.
            Bulgaria is making good progress, they generally work a lot.


            An extremely informative message! The Queen is delighted.
            I’ve been to Bulgaria and know the situation. They work several jobs and earn pennies. 300 euros is the standard salary, doctors and teachers have less. There are zero prospects. People survive on their vegetable gardens. Thank God Brussels is not yet paying as much attention to them as in Germany. If the Bulgarians begin to ban these vegetable gardens and demolish any government, famine will simply begin.
            1. -7
              17 October 2015 12: 40
              Quote: XYZ
              This is you in vain.
              Bulgaria is making good progress, they generally work a lot.


              An extremely informative message! The Queen is delighted.
              I’ve been to Bulgaria and know the situation. They work several jobs and earn pennies. 300 euros is the standard salary, doctors and teachers have less. There are zero prospects. People survive on their vegetable gardens. Thank God Brussels is not yet paying as much attention to them as in Germany. If the Bulgarians begin to ban these vegetable gardens and demolish any government, famine will simply begin.

              800 leva - average salary - i.e. 800 euros.
              But it's better than what it was 5 years ago. Can you offer them an alternative?
              1. +1
                17 October 2015 13: 10
                Quote: atalef
                800 leva - average salary - i.e. 800 euros.
                But it's better than what it was 5 years ago. Can you offer them an alternative?


                Let them slaughter their “tsutsyurkas” en masse and go to Turkey or Israel laughing

                Those who don't want to, THAT'S OUR BROTHER...
                1. -3
                  17 October 2015 13: 25
                  Quote: Good Me
                  Let them slaughter their “tsutsyurkas” en masse and go to Turkey or Israel

                  Why do they need this? We are talking about an alternative as a center of power.
                  Quote: Good Me
                  Those who don't want to, THAT'S OUR BROTHER...

                  won't want what?
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2015 13: 55
                    Quote: atalef
                    Why do they need this? We are talking about an alternative as a center of power.


                    It is WE who are talking about the “center of power”, and the Bulgarian (Bulgarian) who did not find the promised “European paradise”, but who found themselves in poverty, even in comparison with the NRB, does not care about this. They will run to someone who can raise the standard of living and its standards. And believe me, just a little more, and the rise of these with US and the fall of THEM, will make you think with your head, and not stare at the beautiful wrapper.

                    Quote: atalef
                    won't want what?


                    Becoming a Jew through truncation of the foreskin wassat
                    1. -3
                      17 October 2015 14: 21
                      Quote: Good Me
                      It is WE who are talking about the “center of power”, and the Bulgarian (Bulgarian) who did not find the promised “European paradise”, but who found themselves in poverty, even in comparison with the NRB, does not care about this

                      Maybe, but Russia did not provide wealth and prosperity to anyone; they have more hopes connected with Europe
                      Quote: Good Me
                      They will run to someone who can raise the standard of living and its standards

                      Of course, the first thing they (Bulgarians, like all others rushing to the EU) look at is the standard of living in the very *center of power*, how can you be attractive to them if you yourself cannot raise it, at least to the European level?
                      Quote: Good Me
                      And believe me, just a little more, and the rise of these with US and the fall of THEM, will make you think with your head, and not stare at the beautiful wrapper.

                      a little bit more .
                      Future tense again?
                      Quote: Good Me
                      Becoming a Jew through truncation of the foreskin

                      Kindergarten laughing
                      1. +3
                        17 October 2015 14: 34
                        Quote: atalef
                        a little bit more .
                        Future tense again?


                        Time, we have. And the future.
                      2. -3
                        17 October 2015 14: 36
                        Quote: Good I
                        Quote: atalef
                        a little bit more .
                        Future tense again?


                        Time, we have. And the future.

                        Of course, only no one knows it (the future)
                      3. +2
                        17 October 2015 15: 23
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Good I
                        Quote: atalef
                        a little bit more .
                        Future tense again?


                        Time, we have. And the future.

                        Of course, only no one knows it (the future)

                        Let's not generalize. Over the past 24 years, our ruling circles have firmly understood something important for themselves. And this is a serious guarantee of success. Even with the constant subversive activities of the United States and its European allies. For them, a growing Russia automatically turns into enemy No. 1. But no matter, we’ll get through it (even though our life is not bad at all now. But appetite, as you know, comes with eating). We're no strangers hi Moreover, now we are far from alone.
                      4. -3
                        17 October 2015 15: 50
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Over the past 24 years, our ruling circles have firmly understood something important for themselves. And this is a serious guarantee of success.

                        It’s great that if in 24 years they understood and gave a guarantee of success, then it’s not a sin to wait another 24 years, because my mother’s generation had to live under communism
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        . Even with the constant subversive activities of the United States and its European allies.

                        It’s strange, before the fall in oil prices, Crimea was ours. somehow this was not particularly noticeable, but in 2006. when oil was 150 per barrel, it was not at all clear who worked for whom
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        For them, a growing Russia automatically turns into enemy No. 1.

                        I do not think.
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        We're no strangers

                        this is in person, my whole life is a struggle hi
                      5. 0
                        17 October 2015 16: 34
                        Quote: atalef
                        It’s great if in 24 years they understood and gave a guarantee of success

                        What a pessimistic forecast lol Well, you know better from the outside.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Strange, before the fall in oil prices and Crimea was ours

                        What are you doing with these oil prices? For some reason, we, people inside the country, are not so interested in this. Yes, gasoline prices have gone up. But look, the 92nd in 2009 cost about 23 rubles / l, and now it costs 33 rubles / l, which is “euro 5”. The price increase between these figures was NOT abrupt. Gasoline became more expensive all the time. And at a certain moment there was a jump of a couple of rubles - this is not critical for Russian wealth. Therefore, the calculation of you-know-who, coupled with sanctions, to cause popular unrest did not come true. Something like that.
                        Quote: atalef
                        I do not think.

                        Unfortunately for us, this is true. The partners' words are at odds with their deeds.
              2. +1
                17 October 2015 13: 13
                800 levs + 400 euros, they are still tied to the Deutsche Mark
                1. -2
                  17 October 2015 13: 25
                  Quote: Victor BG
                  800 levs + 400 euros, they are still tied to the Deutsche Mark

                  800 leva is 800 euros.
                  1. +2
                    17 October 2015 15: 17
                    Quote: atalef
                    800 leva is 800 euros.

                    The exchange rate is 1:1,97 today, so 800 leva is about 400 euros.
                    1. 0
                      17 October 2015 15: 21
                      Quote: saturn.mmm
                      The exchange rate is 1:1,97 today, so 800 leva is about 400 euros.

                      my mistake, the shekel-euro-lev was confused.
                      Exactly. a lion is twice the size of a shekel
                    2. +2
                      17 October 2015 15: 50
                      800 levs = 400€ But prices for life in general in Bulgaria and at the moment are significantly lower than in Russia. Car prices are also much cheaper in Bulgaria than in Russia. Real estate with the same technical indicators in Bulgaria is significantly lower than in Russia. All energy prices are higher than in Russia - gas, gasoline, electricity. Before the devaluation of the ruble, living as a Russian in Bulgaria was much cheaper than in Russia. For that, almost 350 thousand. Russians switched to temporary or permanent residence in Bulgaria. The devaluation of the ruble over the past two years has had a negative impact, since the Bulgarian lev is tied to the currency board with the euro.
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              4. -2
                17 October 2015 19: 07
                800 euros? You didn't accidentally mix up the pills. Or you show the salaries of bank employees. You are like Posner, who still thinks that only he can give truthful information about America. I talked to real people and they don’t even dream of 800 euros. If they had similar salaries, they would sit quietly and not constantly rebel. And Bulgaria, together with Romania, would not be a symbol of the European scam.
            2. +2
              18 October 2015 02: 25
              Don't worry, we'll survive somehow.
              But I don’t understand your schadenfreude, because on your site, besides you, former social media. Only we, the Bulgarians, still visit the country occasionally. None of your notorious Serb brothers have written a word here in Russian, but you continue to claim that they are closest to you.
              Well, it’s your will, and the last of us will leave here, you can be proud of your achievement.
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          6. +2
            17 October 2015 13: 38
            Yavrei verbiage, may all the inhabitants of this site forgive me, is, of course, a wonderful thing. Can turn anything inside out. In fact, it was not about the “oath”, but about such concepts that the author of the post is apparently unfamiliar with: friendship, gratitude, conscience, honor, reason, finally. In Israel this is not an expensive product, as I understand it?
            1. -4
              17 October 2015 14: 04
              Quote: Sentence
              which the author of the post is apparently unfamiliar with: friendship, gratitude, conscience, honor, reason, finally. In Israel this is not an expensive product, as I understand it?

              All this implies reciprocity, but do you have it with Bulgaria?
              Why do you think that everyone owes you, while you owe nothing to anyone?
              A strange belief that everyone should love and respect you just because of your existence.
          7. +6
            17 October 2015 14: 28
            By the way, the historian - atalef - it was the USSR that liberated them from the best friends of the Jews of the 20th century. And Russia created Bulgaria back in the 19th! Also, just for fun - I communicate with the Bulgarians - they are advancing offensively - even Ukraine, under the bloody Yanukovo, lived on level with the EU country - GREAT BULGARIA! But, glory to the Mediterranean, the Waltsman-Groysmans came...
            1. -1
              17 October 2015 14: 50
              Quote: victor
              Even Ukraine, under the bloody Yanukov regime, lived on par with the EU country - GREAT BULGARIA! But, glory to the Mediterranean, the Waltsman-Groysmans came

              Well, it’s clear that the Jews are to blame for everything that happens in Ukraine.
              How else can you explain that one of the largest countries in Europe and 40 million. population, sits with a torn ass and begs for handouts from all over the world. laughing
              Gentlemen, great Ukrainians, direct descendants of the Atlanteans laughing
          8. +2
            17 October 2015 14: 47
            Quote: atalef
            and they don’t owe Russia anything for this

            On April 12, 1877, Russia declared war on Turkey. On the same day, the Bulgarian Central Revolutionary Committee in Bucharest issued an appeal to the Bulgarian people: “Brothers! The Russians are coming to us as brothers to protect us. The great and holy hour has struck, in which we must all stand as one alongside the Russian soldiers in the fight against the enemy.” The campaign of the Russian army across the Danube, unparalleled in difficulty and heroism, forever covering Russian weapons with the glory of Plevna and Sheinov, Shipka and Phillipol, lasted 314 days and nights. More than 50 thousand Russian soldiers died in the battles for the liberation of Bulgaria.
            A brilliant denouement came at the end of 1877, when Russian troops crossed the Danube and captured Plevna. Türkiye quickly agreed to negotiations, peace and the formation of a semi-independent Bulgarian principality.
            So in 1879, Bulgaria became an autonomous principality - a vassal of Turkey. In 1908 - an independent kingdom.
            Well, at least they remembered...bad brothers! hi
            1. -4
              17 October 2015 15: 02
              Quote: Bayonet
              Well, at least they remembered...bad brothers!

              Hi Sanya.
              Why should they remember this?
              this was 150 years ago. During this time, so much water has passed under the bridge, so much good and bad has happened, that it is difficult to take one thing or another out of context - to seek general justice, much less demand gratitude.
              Well, judge for yourself, someone will come to you and say, my great-great-great-great-grandfather saved yours from the wolf.
              Well, it’s great if you are a grateful person, then sit together, have a drink, remember your great-great-great-grandfathers. And then?
              Will you consider yourself obliged to him? But this is personal. directly concerns you.
              And here ? 150 years is like demanding gratitude from the French for defeating Napoleon.

              People live in the present and friendly relationships must be maintained constantly, but not like this, I forgot for 20 years, and then suddenly, when the bride had already left for someone else, he began to remember past love and demand the right to bed.
          9. 0
            17 October 2015 17: 37
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Observer2014
            .A country supplying canned vegetables and prostitutes to Europe.
            This is you in vain.
            Bulgaria is making good progress, they generally work a lot.

            For some reason, if sarcasm is needed, then they will never fail to mention reading books in export versions. This is the most signature feature... Now, Bulgarians have already signed up en masse as readers... Look, the devil is not joking (!), in the 22nd century, the Saudis will take first place in the world in this indicator... when their oil runs out. ..
          10. 0
            18 October 2015 01: 47
            Does Bulgaria owe Russia anything? Seriously? It is Russia that owes nothing to anyone, although for some reason the whole world thinks the opposite!
          11. 0
            18 October 2015 01: 47
            Does Bulgaria owe Russia anything? Seriously? It is Russia that owes nothing to anyone, although for some reason the whole world thinks the opposite!
      2. +7
        17 October 2015 11: 02
        The Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs took this decision independently

        What's the difference?
        Justified!
        The result is important.
      3. 0
        17 October 2015 12: 57
        And thirty pieces of silver to boot!
      4. 0
        17 October 2015 13: 30
        Bulgarians again refused to provide the air corridor to the Russian transport worker

        The Bulgarian authorities have been completely confusing the coasts lately. And then they complain that the gas pipe has come to the wrong bank! lol
      5. 0
        17 October 2015 15: 36
        Everything will happen later, a little later. Some will leave, and if others don’t pick up, it will be possible to close not only the sky above their stupid heads.
        Reminds me of a prostitute who, to please her pimp, is ready to contract AIDS just to get her drunk in a tavern. Well, they still won’t give you something to drink. But they have already infected.
    2. +18
      17 October 2015 10: 45
      Nobody can say better than Dostoevsky about the betrayal of the Eastern Slavs.
      1. +1
        17 October 2015 11: 48
        Bulgars are not Slavs at all
        1. +1
          17 October 2015 13: 59
          Quote: DrMadfisher
          Bulgars are not Slavs at all

          Slavs, Slavs like Poles. Let's not be like the Great Ukrainians lol
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        1. +12
          17 October 2015 11: 18
          Yesterday it was at VO. The Bulgarian prime minister expressed grievances that gas is the most expensive in Bulgaria, Russia doesn’t want nuclear power plants for free, and what kind of bros are you after that. And the Bulgarians, like the crests, both crap on us and will continue to crap on us.
      2. +14
        17 October 2015 11: 10
        Quote: aleksfill
        a can of green peas, which was always the whore in the Balkans, Bulgaria.
        some kind.

        A can of green peas has always been Hungary - "GLOBUS". And Bulgaria was a beach. Zlatni Pisyatsi. Yes, perfume for women - Rose Valley. A chicken is not a bird, Bulgaria is not a foreign country. But by and large - a useless agricultural territory, a pathetic, dependent people. The same Moldovan-Romanians, only a side view. If it were not for Russia, the name Bulgaria would not exist. 200 years ago it would not have existed anymore....
      3. -18
        17 October 2015 11: 34
        Quote: aleksfill
        I completely understand neither the position nor the lack of action of our Foreign Ministry, the President
        in relation to a can of green peas, which has always been a whore in the Balkans, Bulgaria.
        some kind.

        In general, why does everyone claim that Bulgaria owes something to Russia?
        Because of the Balkan Wars? Let's be honest, Russia did not completely liberate Bulgaria, and the Ottoman Empire fell anyway.
        Bulgarians in general (from my communication with them) are very offended by Russia.
        1. Because they are sure that only the USSR did not allow them to develop, but kept them as an agricultural appendage
        2. After any liberation Russian mission, Bulgaria lost territory
        I’m not exactly an expert on Bulgarian history, but I’m repeating what I heard in Bulgaria, which I’ve visited several times
        One waiter especially amused me, saying that all the regions (which belonged to the Bulgars), and this - he named some regions of Russia, I did not remember (because I was passionate about shish kebab), but the continuation made me stop digesting food because he said everything these regions strive to UNITE AND ENTER BULGARIA, but Putin does not allow this
        He received an increased tip from us, it was a show after all. Zadornov is resting.
        In general, Bulgarians don’t really like Russians, and that’s putting it mildly.
        1. +4
          17 October 2015 12: 22
          Listen, Atalef, indicate your place of residence in your profile, otherwise my Satan has already gone nuts...
          P.S. I'm talking about the cat, but what were you thinking?
          1. -3
            17 October 2015 12: 43
            Quote: sabakina
            Listen, Atalef, indicate your place of residence in your profile, otherwise my Satan has already gone nuts.
            P.S. I'm talking about the cat, what were you thinking?

            Israel, Haifa.
            My Jeep will always be glad to meet you
            1. +1
              17 October 2015 14: 47
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: sabakina
              Listen, Atalef, indicate your place of residence in your profile, otherwise my Satan has already gone nuts.
              P.S. I'm talking about the cat, what were you thinking?

              Israel, Haifa.
              My Jeep will always be glad to meet you

              This is a cat! belay Why so angry?
              1. -1
                17 October 2015 15: 17
                Quote: GSH-18
                This is a cat! Why so angry?

                He's just serious.
        2. +1
          17 October 2015 15: 27
          Quote: atalef
          In general, Bulgarians don’t really like Russians, and that’s putting it mildly.

          Nevertheless, in some sense, they owe their existence to the Russians; of course, you can turn your nose up now, but the past cannot be changed, except perhaps rewritten.
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 15: 56
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Nevertheless, in some sense, they owe their existence to the Russians; of course, you can turn your nose up now, but the past cannot be changed, except perhaps rewritten.

            This is true and not true, but the most important thing at this stage does not matter.
            Excuse me, if some Norwegian now stands up and says, without us there would be no Russia (Rurik is generally a Norwegian) - well, how would you react to this?
            Yes, it doesn’t play any role now. hi
        3. +3
          17 October 2015 17: 55
          Quote: atalef
          In general, why does everyone claim that Bulgaria owes something to Russia?

          Quote: atalef
          I’m not exactly an expert on Bulgarian history, but I’m repeating what I heard in Bulgaria, which I’ve visited several times

          Precisely because you are not an expert on Bulgarian history, you may not know what Bulgaria owes to Russia.

          After 25 years of “independence” according to American templates, it would be difficult to expect a waiter in Bulgaria to say anything good about Russia, especially when people like you atalef, for 25 years he was told that Bulgaria owes everything only to the American troops that landed in Normandy.

          In your words - the whole fate of Bulgaria - to live on Western (or Israeli, in this case - it doesn’t matter) tips.

          And in general, Russia cannot count on gratitude - neither from those who were born, raised and educated in Russia, and then fled, nor from those whose land Russia has repeatedly saved from invaders with its blood.

          It’s okay, we’ll survive without their gratitude, but when the wheel of History makes another circle, then we’ll see who will smile.

          You would, atalef, we also went to Poland with Ukraine - it would be even more interesting for you to hear what the waiters said about Russia.

          Read the history of Bulgaria at your leisure. Just not according to American or Israeli textbooks. Moreover, not according to modern Bulgarian or Ukrainian. And at least in Turkish... You will understand what Russia did for Bulgaria. May be.

          And your cat, excuse me, is disgusting... Although fashionable.
    4. +26
      17 October 2015 10: 48
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke

      It's time to return this prodigal Ottoman province to the Turks. The “brothers” missed their master’s strong hand and hard penis.
      1. +1
        17 October 2015 10: 54
        The Ottomans are still allies. No, we won't give it away. We'll pick it up for ourselves, but later. Oh, Bulgarians, Bulgarians... you were once considered the 16th republic...
        1. +14
          17 October 2015 11: 08
          Quote: dr.star75
          No, we won't give it away. We'll pick it up for ourselves, but later.

          Why do we need this half-gypsy rabble? Orthodox brothers, damn it... With such brothers you don’t even need enemies.
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 11: 22
            I agree, but we need straits.
            1. 0
              17 October 2015 12: 46
              The straits near Turkey are already good.
              1. 0
                17 October 2015 15: 29
                Quote: barsik92090
                The straits near Turkey are already good.

                It’s good when Russia has straits.
            2. 0
              17 October 2015 12: 46
              The straits near Turkey are already good.
        2. +2
          17 October 2015 11: 13
          Quote: dr.star75
          Oh Bulgarians, Bulgarians...


          And the Bulgarians, and the Moldovans, and the Balts from the same basket of eggs - their noses are in the wind and whoever pays the most. All THESE resemble pickles that imagine themselves to be cucumbers. But puffing up one’s cheeks and betrayal never brought goodness and self-respect to the cunning priest. bully
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      2. +3
        17 October 2015 11: 16
        Quote: Penetrator
        It's time to return this prodigal Ottoman province to the Turks. The “brothers” missed their master’s strong hand and hard penis.

        And the Bulgarian card, although not a trump card, would not be superfluous in a game with the Turks. At the same time, they would show the Bulgarians that We are not only liberating soldiers. But it is also a nightmare for those who have committed the eighth mortal sin and, in my opinion, the most terrible one - ingratitude.
    5. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 29
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke

      An ineradicable habit of slavery, first Ottoman, and now you don’t even know what to call the owner, you can’t find the words.
    6. -1
      17 October 2015 11: 53
      I categorically recommended to all my acquaintances and friends not to travel both to the Baltic countries and to this forever someone else's litter - either the Ottoman Empire or America! I even had a fight with some of them!
      Moreover, the Bulgarians are always crawling into someone’s anus, so deep that they themselves cannot get out, and it begins:"Russians! Brothers! Help!"
    7. 0
      17 October 2015 12: 30
      The anti-people leadership of Bulgaria is doing everything to completely quarrel between the Bulgarians and the Russians, but smart people must understand that the leaders of Bulgaria are not Bulgarians, and the leaders of Russia are not Russians, so all the vile fuss is not created by the Slavs...
      1. -1
        17 October 2015 12: 45
        Quote: War and Peace
        ...smart people should understand that the leaders of Bulgaria are not Bulgarians, and the leaders of Russia are not Russians, so all the vile fuss is not created by the Slavs...

        How touching! The “leaders,” apparently, are flying in from another planet to set apart eternal friends - the Russian and Bulgarian peoples?
        1. +2
          17 October 2015 12: 52
          Quote: Penetrator
          Quote: War and Peace
          ...smart people should understand that the leaders of Bulgaria are not Bulgarians, and the leaders of Russia are not Russians, so all the vile fuss is not created by the Slavs...

          How touching! The “leaders,” apparently, are flying in from another planet to set apart eternal friends - the Russian and Bulgarian peoples?


          you watch too much Hollywood, strangers come not only from other planets, but for example those who, with a population of less than one percent of the population, own 90% of the country’s wealth, I’m talking about them...
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    12. 0
      17 October 2015 13: 59
      Interestingly, the Turks and Bulgarians did not allow the passage. If not for Russia, the Turks would have slaughtered the Bulgarians, it was in vain that our ancestors saved these “brothers”, do not spit in the well, lest you have to drink water.
    13. 0
      17 October 2015 14: 40
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke

      Such “brothers” are being taken out with a shower! am
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    15. -1
      17 October 2015 19: 00
      It has not been known for a long time that Russia has two friends and allies - the army and the navy!! And everything else is now beginning to be sifted out like seed from the chaff!! hi
    16. -1
      17 October 2015 22: 33
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke

      With all the negativity in relations between the so-called “fraternal Slavic countries” and Russia over the past 20-25 years, Russia has acquired invaluable experience and knowledge. Now Russia knows EXACTLY who xy is. I don’t think that any of the Russians will regret that someday a melted radiation desert will appear in the place of Bulgaria.
      Once a betrayer, he will never become a friend. Bulgaria has betrayed Russia at least three times already. Even four times - let's remember Kirkorov...
    17. -1
      17 October 2015 22: 33
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke

      With all the negativity in relations between the so-called “fraternal Slavic countries” and Russia over the past 20-25 years, Russia has acquired invaluable experience and knowledge. Now Russia knows EXACTLY who xy is. I don’t think that any of the Russians will regret that someday a melted radiation desert will appear in the place of Bulgaria.
      Once a betrayer, he will never become a friend. Bulgaria has betrayed Russia at least three times already. Even four times - let's remember Kirkorov...
  2. +39
    17 October 2015 10: 38
    Ungrateful ... (I don’t even know who....there are a lot of options)





    And so, year after year, they mock the monument to their liberators! Normal at all?
    1. +14
      17 October 2015 10: 49
      I will add: And their authorities pretend that they can neither catch those who did this nor prevent it from happening again...
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    3. +2
      17 October 2015 13: 02
      By the way, the colorful hats in the last photo were worn by your Russian girls from Pusi-Mushi!

      Nadya from Pussy Riot mask of the monument to the Svetskata army
      Webcafe.bg 16.10.2015/10/23, 16.10.2015:10 (updated 29/XNUMX/XNUMX, XNUMX:XNUMX)

      So all sorts of rabble come from everywhere and engage in vandalism! And your Ukrainian well-wishers clearly painted the monument in yellow and black!
    4. 0
      17 October 2015 13: 11
      It is necessary to take the monuments to Russia so that such mockery does not occur.
    5. +8
      17 October 2015 13: 23
      In Bulgaria there are more monuments in honor of Russia and Russians than in any other country in the world! On a small territory with a size of 400x500, there are 430 monuments dedicated to Russia and Russians and more than 100 dedicated to the Soviet army. And all of them are preserved and protected by the Bulgarian people! The Russian ambassador himself publicly thanks the Bulgarian people for their care! Every year 2-3 more new ones open! And the counting of localities, streets, squares bearing names associated with Russia cannot be calculated! There were indeed cases in which outcasts and drug addicts painted monuments to the Soviet army, and the government tried to demolish some of them. But the Bulgarian people did not and will not allow this to happen! In Russia, you have cases of desecration and desecration of monuments many times more than in Bulgaria! By the way, the demolition attempts concern only a few monuments to Soviet soldiers, since the implantation of communism in Bulgaria is really assessed ambiguously! And the monuments dedicated to Russia have NEVER BEEN TOUCHED BY ANYONE! Stop trolling! You are more enemies of Russia than of us!
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      2. 0
        18 October 2015 00: 00
        Quote: pytar
        In Bulgaria there are more monuments in honor of Russia and Russians than in any other country in the world! On a small territory with a size of 400x500, there are 430 monuments dedicated to Russia and Russians and more than 100 dedicated to the Soviet army. And all of them are preserved and protected by the Bulgarian people! The Russian ambassador himself publicly thanks the Bulgarian people for their care! Every year 2-3 more new ones open! And the counting of localities, streets, squares bearing names associated with Russia cannot be calculated! There were indeed cases in which outcasts and drug addicts painted monuments to the Soviet army, and the government tried to demolish some of them. But the Bulgarian people did not and will not allow this to happen! In Russia, you have cases of desecration and desecration of monuments many times more than in Bulgaria! By the way, the demolition attempts concern only a few monuments to Soviet soldiers, since the implantation of communism in Bulgaria is really assessed ambiguously! And the monuments dedicated to Russia have NEVER BEEN TOUCHED BY ANYONE! Stop trolling! You are more enemies of Russia than of us!

        Well, yes... It was Bulgaria after Shipka that became Russia’s FRIEND in the 1st World War...
        Well, yes... This is Bulgaria and Hitler BECAME ENEMIES in World War II...
        Well, yes... Well, this is Bulgaria kissing the United States on the gums on the eve of the 3rd...
        But between these stages, Russia and Bulgaria are peace, friendship, chewing gum!
        ENOUGH!!! Bulgaria has exhausted its credibility with Russia.
        Hug now, Bulgaria, with NATO! Kiss him passionately!
        But remember VERY STRONG - Russia remembers good, but does not forget evil either... wink
        1. +3
          18 October 2015 01: 24
          Quote: parafoiler
          Yeah. And on the side of the Germans, they fought against us in World War II, until we hacked the Fritz’s sides. So they immediately went over to us. Skins are corrupt.

          Do not fight against you. From the word at all. We fought with you. As a reward, we received communism. It so happened that you did not like him. So they took and the ego collapsed. You! Betrayed everyone. You! Mine too. Then they yelled for a long time and yelled that "you were betrayed"! Weird! Searing shouting against those who are for you. And pour water into the chalk of those who are against you. Inadequate! From the word at all.
          1. 0
            18 October 2015 02: 16
            Quote: pytar
            We received communism as a reward. It so happened that you didn't like him. So they took it and destroyed the ego. You! They betrayed everyone. You! Ours too.

            Where is Lenin's Mausoleum now and where is Dimitrov's Mausoleum now?
            So who ruined what?
            Russia remembers and cherishes its history, despite its complexity and ambiguity. Unlike Bulgaria - which does not remember kinship and does not know conscience.
            There have already been attempts to demolish Alyosha in Plovdiv at least three times. Those Bulgarians who did not lose their memory and conscience came to the rescue. How many of these will remain in 15-20 years?
          2. 0
            18 October 2015 02: 30
            I accidentally added a plus. Consider it a minus, do not think that I support these hysterical cries that we have betrayed everyone. And in general - a strange discussion of our relations with the Bulgarians. Basically, the Israeli teaches us how and with whom to build relationships. Do they have anything like our VO in Israel? Maybe we should go there more often and teach them about relations with Arabs, these are their brothers!
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      0
      17 October 2015 16: 01
      Quote: DEZINTO
      And so, year after year, they mock the monument to their liberators! Normal at all?

      Only Serbs, Belarusians and Montenegrins are normal. The rest will not mind looking under the knives of the approaching Saracens.
      1. +1
        17 October 2015 19: 47
        Yes, they are normal people, but the authorities are corrupt.
        But the funny thing is that the tone changes. If before, they barked like mongrels; then after Syria and the Caspian Sea they realized that Russia also has a limit. That Boyko Borisov sang at a meeting on trade between the United States and Bulgaria. They killed three joint projects with the Russian Federation to please the United States, and received nothing in return - just holes in their pockets. And we will hear this more and more. The Russian Federation, bypassing Eastern Europe with pipelines, leaves them with their nose and expensive energy resources. “Revenge” may be such that all of Eastern Europe will turn into an economy. EU outsiders. Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. sat on transit and pipe; they may lose this. The only exception is the Czechs (Zeman), and then mostly in words.
        Even the British (not the authorities) support the Russian Federation on Syria. Those same Americans are also not the worst people. But the authorities are a different question. So we need to separate the people from the authorities. “Democracy” has driven the Western peoples to such an extent that their authorities are not the same as the people - they have become detached from life. hi
        1. 740
          0
          17 October 2015 20: 02
          Quote: Kasym
          EU outsiders. Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. sat on transit and pipe; they may lose this. The only exception is the Czechs (Zeman), and then mostly in words.

          Well, to hell with all of them. We’ve had enough of them already. They just hang around underfoot and cause mischief. They’ll be left with nothing, and then they’ll come running to the good-natured quilted men with their tails between their legs.
          By the way, in what mood did Waltsman leave Kazakhstan? wink
      2. +2
        18 October 2015 01: 43
        "DEZINTO - And so, year after year, they mock the monument to their liberators! Are they normal at all?"

        Let's go by the FACTS! So! Let's do the math... In Bulgaria there are about 530 monuments in honor of Russia and the Red Army. World Record By the way! Of the 430 monuments in honor of Russia, no one has ever touched a single one. Over the past years, another 10-12 new ones have been built. Out of more than 100 monuments to the Soviet army, 3 monuments were painted 2 times. Every state has at least 5 abnormal people. Ours were smaller. Therefore, one Russian woman came to help these four. The authorities quickly dealt with them, and the monuments were destroyed, cleaned, and volunteers began to guard them. Young and old, changing day after day. Day and night. At that time in Russia... your crazy people were much more active! I tried to find out how many monuments were destroyed and desecrated! It turned out to be difficult to count everyone! Hundreds! In this regard, the Russian government, from October 22.10.2014, XNUMX. forced to raise the size of fines for the destruction of cultural monuments to the highest level in Europe. Here's another word about Record, just not a reason for joy! And you read morals to us? Take it and look at it for yourself first! Does the nickname DEZINTO come from DEZINFO???
  3. +19
    17 October 2015 10: 39
    And where is the Bulgarian brother who claimed that this site is biased against Bulgaria? smile
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  4. +11
    17 October 2015 10: 39
    I wasn't even surprised
    1. +10
      17 October 2015 10: 44
      According to her, “the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry made this decision independently.”
      Oh! I believe! Of course, yourself! Well, who besides you yourself would want to be an imbecile?
  5. +5
    17 October 2015 10: 40
    Well... We can state the fact that the Bulgarians are ready to sell their souls to the devil...
  6. +22
    17 October 2015 10: 41
    Both the Bulgarians and the Ukrainians are under the same control. These are the “brothers” Slavs.
    1. +1
      17 October 2015 13: 19
      Quote: vovanpain
      Both the Bulgarians and the Ukrainians are under the same control. These are the “brothers” Slavs.


      Maybe the latest events will allow us to “seize control”?

      Actually, this is in our interests as a “regional power” claiming dominance in Europe...
  7. +5
    17 October 2015 10: 42
    Bulgarians like the Mig-29 are going to repair it in Poland, but as far as I understand they want to buy spare parts in Russia............?
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 10: 46
      It doesn’t matter where, the important thing is that in this case cooperation is in their selfish interests...
    2. +3
      17 October 2015 10: 59
      RSK MiG has already responded to them that in this case it will stop supporting their aircraft.
    3. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 18
      Quote: APASUS
      , and as far as I understand, they want to buy spare parts in Russia............?


      Yes, for God's sake, only at triple the price and - money in advance. bully
  8. +5
    17 October 2015 10: 42
    And the Politburo of the USSR was right in refusing the 16th republic
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 10: 48
      One hundred pounds!!!
      Today it came out!
    2. +1
      17 October 2015 11: 31
      Quote: Tusv
      And the Politburo of the USSR was right in refusing the 16th republic

      Here they (the Bulgarians) themselves, once again, confirmed that the Politburo was right...
    3. -7
      17 October 2015 11: 40
      Quote: Tusv
      And the Politburo of the USSR was right in refusing the 16th republic

      Did it really fail? Was there a request from them?
  9. +2
    17 October 2015 10: 45
    The territory temporarily occupied by a misunderstanding called “Bulgarian statehood” became, not for the first time, alien to us and not for the last.... But the problem is that history, which does not like subjunctive moods, likes to repeat itself.....
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    2. -2
      18 October 2015 00: 12
      Quote: AlexTires
      The territory temporarily occupied by a misunderstanding called “Bulgarian statehood” became, not for the first time, alien to us and not for the last.... But the problem is that history, which does not like subjunctive moods, likes to repeat itself.....

      Great comment! Catch +100, buddy!
  10. +5
    17 October 2015 10: 45
    Bulgarians don’t spit in the well, you’ll have to drink some more water.
    1. +18
      17 October 2015 10: 59
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Bulgarians don’t spit in the well, you’ll have to drink some more water.

      Ask the Bulgarians today. They will explain to you very clearly - yes, they say, Russia liberated Bulgaria, but only because of its imperial interests - it needed access to the White Sea. Imperial ambitions and interests - that’s all love is. About the fact that Emperor Alexander II, after a long resistance, was simply forced by the popular movement to enter the war and liberate the fraternal people - they have heard just as little about this there today... And now in Bulgaria there are programs on central television in which "Bulgarian heads "prove that liberation from the Ottoman yoke was actually Russian expansion and the inclusion of Bulgaria in the zone of influence of the Russian Empire. That, supposedly, the Turks were very good, they didn’t bother anyone in Bulgaria, there was no oppression on their part, etc.
      ...The Russians accomplished a feat in the 1916th century. But less than forty years had passed, and in September 61, near Dobrich, six Russian squadrons supporting the 1878st Russian division were destroyed by Bulgarian batteries to the last living soul. At the same time, the Bulgarian command initially feared that Bulgarian fighters might refuse to fight against their liberators of XNUMX. But there was no need to fear. Not a single one refused. Here is their price as "brothers" -
      1. +3
        17 October 2015 11: 23
        Yeah. And on the side of the Germans, they fought against us in World War II, until we hacked the Fritz’s sides. So they immediately went over to us. Skins are corrupt.
      2. -9
        17 October 2015 11: 42
        Quote: vc 72019
        Ask the Bulgarians today. They will explain to you very clearly - yes, they say, Russia liberated Bulgaria, but only because of its imperial interests - it needed access to the White Sea

        White? belay
        Quote: vc 72019
        And now in Bulgaria there are programs on central television in which “Bulgarian heads” prove that liberation from the Ottoman yoke was in fact Russian expansion and the inclusion of Bulgaria in the zone of influence of the Russian Empire

        Yes, they think so and many comments (today) confirm this
        1. 0
          17 October 2015 16: 01
          Quote: atalef
          Yes, they think so and many comments (today) confirm this

          Stalin should have included them, together with Romania, into Ukraine.
      3. +2
        18 October 2015 02: 44
        History expert, damn it... This is the only case when the Cossacks really fought with the Bulgarians, but on the side of the Romanians and therefore were destroyed. You missed this little detail in your comment.
        And the fact that I’m still here writing in Russian and not telling you anything? Well, well, go for it.
  11. +19
    17 October 2015 10: 45
    Turks, forgive us... We shouldn’t have liberated Europe from you.
    History has been punishing us for more than a hundred years for the liberation of the Balkans from the Turkish “yoke”.
    Better a worthy enemy than an unworthy "friend".
    1. +6
      17 October 2015 11: 03
      Quote: sogdianec
      Better a worthy enemy than an unworthy "friend".

      Powerfully ... And most importantly - it's terribly true.
    2. +2
      17 October 2015 11: 25
      Quote: sogdianec
      Better a worthy enemy than an unworthy "friend".


      Well said. Who is author? good
  12. +4
    17 October 2015 10: 47
    There is such a saying.
    Keep your friends close, but look for your enemies closer. So the government in Bulgaria is neither a friend nor an enemy, but how in the ice hole it hangs out here and there. And even about the South Stream, you have the audacity to dig.
  13. -1
    17 October 2015 10: 47
    The answer is necessarily asymmetrical, and raise the price of gas!
  14. +1
    17 October 2015 10: 47
    Yes, this is a country of slaves, what can you expect from them? First, the Turks were appeased for hundreds of years, then the USSR, and now the USA and Europe are appeased.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 19: 07
      Yeah, one to one Poles. Only the Poles still have a great idea - about the greatness of Poland, absurd, funny, but there is one, and the Bulgarians, even without a great idea, give themselves to the Yankees with all their diligence.
  15. 0
    17 October 2015 10: 48
    I believe that a number of sanctions should be imposed on them so that they at least begin to understand what their antics threaten them with. And so they just laugh at us and mock us. soldier
    1. +2
      17 October 2015 12: 08
      Judging by the leadership of Bulgaria, sanctions are not needed, they abandoned the gas pipeline, the nuclear power plant and other projects were let down the drain. Chubarov and Dzhamiliev will help them.
  16. 0
    17 October 2015 10: 49
    Well, it’s okay, life will put everything in its place
  17. +2
    17 October 2015 10: 49
    It was in vain that they were saved from the Turks. Next time Russia will simply watch as they are taught to swear on the Koran. What a creepy country. They always used Russia’s help and ALWAYS betrayed them!
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      +1
      17 October 2015 20: 08
      Quote: sl22277
      Next time Russia will simply watch as they are taught to swear on the Koran.

      I really want it to be so. But, as practice shows, when there is a serious war going on, the Russians simply cannot stand by and calmly observe. A tragic mistake. recourse fool negative
  18. +2
    17 October 2015 10: 51
    Brothers, what can I say. And there is no need to say that the people are one, but the government is different. They are all from the same masonry.
    The people have the power that they have. I just REALLY ask our President: Vladimir Vladimirovich, when the Arab fanatics tear Europe into small rags, there is no need to interfere, at least until they land in London and clear the Tin Islands.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 30
      Quote: Ribald
      I just REALLY ask our President: Vladimir Vladimirovich, when the Arab fanatics tear Europe into small rags, there is no need to interfere, at least until they land in London and clear the Tin Islands.

      Is Russia similar to the overgrown accelerator America? Which sovereignty is only 70 years old and whose sovereignty was stolen from Stalin or the great dirty tricks of the Brits, who replaced the stick with carrots, like the Russian Tsars?
      I will not be surprised that Kazan will become a place of pilgrimage for Muslims in 10 years
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    1. 0
      17 October 2015 15: 24
      Quote: Tim Coconuts
      - Yes? What's the difference?

      smile
  20. 0
    17 October 2015 10: 53
    [quote=sogdianec]Turks, forgive us... We shouldn’t have liberated Europe from you.[/quo
    What are you saying... It’s not the people who are prohibiting the use of airspace! It’s politics, the country depends more on the West, so it’s up to them to rule. And to hell with them, next time we won’t protect them, even if they kill everyone.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 16
      Is the “ministry” also painting the monuments? Or maybe the people forbid the police to catch and punish these vandal artists? The people are good too. And not just good... but brainwashed.
  21. 0
    17 October 2015 10: 53
    “The Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs took this decision independently.”


    And an interesting question arises, when was Bulgaria independent?
  22. +1
    17 October 2015 10: 56
    The Bulgarian rulers are loyal to Euro-solidarity, but not to the Russian “brothers”. Well, the choice has been made. Time will tell how disadvantageous it is for Bulgaria. But the price of betrayal is always very high (for the traitor).
  23. +1
    17 October 2015 10: 57
    Bulgarians are not the government of Bulgaria. Of course, the government has betrayed its friendship with Russia many times already. I especially liked the trick with South Stream, which cannot be called anything other than a shot in the foot. The rest is just consequences. Cheap show off for the sake of one's own importance.
  24. +4
    17 October 2015 11: 00
    the title is incorrect. not the Bulgarians, but the Bulgarian government. that's more accurate.
    1. +2
      17 October 2015 11: 11
      Quote: Victorio
      the title is incorrect. not the Bulgarians, but the Bulgarian government. that's more accurate.

      EU government. They are in the EU and only together the union decides. This will be even more accurate.
    2. 0
      17 October 2015 11: 20
      Normal title. If their government does what it wants, and they are silent, then they are at the same time! Where is there any expression of dissatisfaction? No? So they are happy with this policy! negative
  25. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 02
    (C) “Bulgaria made its decision under pressure from the United States.”

    It's time to stop trying to justify Judas. What difference does it really make to us, the “brothers” sold us only for 30 pieces of silver or they also count on “moral satisfaction”. Fact - they view the relations of the Slavic peoples as a subject of BARGAINING.
  26. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 05
    Quote: sogdianec
    Turks, forgive us... We shouldn’t have liberated Europe from you.
    History has been punishing us for more than a hundred years for the liberation of the Balkans from the Turkish “yoke”.
    Better a worthy enemy than an unworthy "friend".

    Ahejakavu - to the studio!
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 14: 10
      Akhedzhakov - on the rack (figuratively)!!
  27. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 05
    Quote: sanyadzhan
    Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke


    What kind of "brothers" are they? There are only setups from them in life. The smaller the nation, I repeat, the more poop from that nation. Shit and shit, parasites. I'm glad that the bear woke up in the den. It’s good to be a bully, arrogant Saxons, now we’ll comb our hair in the morning, human civilization doesn’t need scammers, everything will happen in fairness.
  28. -1
    17 October 2015 11: 07
    With such friends, there is no need for enemies. They will betray you without blinking an eye.
  29. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 09
    due to late submission of application

    They would say honestly that the “brother” from overseas really asked for it. And when you lay down under it, not only is there no point in fluttering around, but you also urgently need to forget the story. Ilyich once clearly described this as a “political prostitute.”
  30. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 09
    Hm!
    BULGARIANS FOR RUSSIA "ARE NOT FOOD FOR HORSE". fellow
  31. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 12
    These are just minor dirty tricks. They know very well that we will fly there anyway, but they crap little things so that we can spend more time and money flying around their garbage dump! request
  32. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 14
    What do we know about independent Bulgaria? Six at seven... and ketchup! By the way, it’s very tasty, but they don’t do the rest.
    1. +1
      17 October 2015 15: 20
      Quote: East Wind
      What do we know about independent Bulgaria? Six at seven... and ketchup!

      Also good power tools, electric cars, wines, rose oil and more... hi
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 15: 58
        Quote: Bayonet
        good power tool
        1. +2
          18 October 2015 02: 48
          The name is Bulgarian.
  33. -1
    17 October 2015 11: 16
    request So, is it surprising that Bulgarians behave this way? Bulgaria is a NATO country. If NATO loves Russia, then, figuratively speaking, it only loves Russia boiled in soup.
  34. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 18
    Quote: Lelek
    Quote: dr.star75
    Oh Bulgarians, Bulgarians...


    And the Bulgarians, and the Moldovans, and the Balts from the same basket of eggs - their noses are in the wind and whoever pays the most. All THESE resemble pickles that imagine themselves to be cucumbers. But puffing up one’s cheeks and betrayal never brought goodness and self-respect to the cunning priest. bully


    ...Sergei Lavrov “read with amazement the reasoning of Borisov, who stated that Bulgaria refused to implement energy projects with Russia, including South Stream, in the interests of the United States.” “It’s simply amazing how people are not shy about such statements. I would be ashamed in front of the voters, in front of the country.”

    Borisov commented on Lavrov’s response statement. “I would also like to appeal to Russia, to the Russians, aren’t they ashamed that their brothers, best friends, Slavs, Orthodox Bulgarians have been buying the most expensive Russian gas in Europe over the past years. I have always been honest with voters. It doesn’t matter to whom I tell this - Americans or Russians, if I see that something is wrong, I tell them,” Boyko Borisov explained.
    The Bulgarians want “bonuses”... Well, what can we expect from those where mattress pads are placed on the “throne”?!
  35. +10
    17 October 2015 11: 18
    Better not say!
  36. +3
    17 October 2015 11: 19
    You must always think with your own head.
  37. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 21
    It’s a pity that Bulgarians don’t read VO and comments to the article.
    1. +2
      17 October 2015 17: 49
      Many Bulgarians read VO. And they are indignant! It is amazing how effective the subversive work the Western centralists have managed to do in Russian society over the past 10-15 years! Not only the U-K-R-A-Hs had a parallel universe created in their heads, but also many Russians! And our common enemies rejoice! For them, your Bulgarian-phobic comments are a real HOLIDAY! Continue to please them... And don’t be surprised that Russia has so many problems! You create enemies for yourself, and your attitude here eloquently proves this sad fact!
      1. +1
        17 October 2015 19: 15
        Well, yes, Russia is to blame again. How new and original this is. That is, Bulgaria is great, they defend the interests of Russia at the forefront, and the ungrateful Russians, deceived by the enemy press, are criticizing the Bulgarians in vain. Is that how it works? And yes, they themselves paint monuments to Russian soldiers in Bulgaria. Have you forgotten any of our crimes?
      2. 0
        17 October 2015 20: 22
        Quote: pytar
        You create enemies for yourself, and your attitude here eloquently proves this sad fact!


        It’s better to be silent and swallow if you come to someone else’s house. Which side were you on in World War 1 and World War II? Who are you with now? Is this gratitude for all the Russian blood shed in Bulgaria? Is this how we create enemies for ourselves by freeing you from slavery 150 years ago? You people are disgraceful. Read and tell others what we think of you. People are judged by their actions, not by their talk.
        1. +2
          17 October 2015 23: 53
          SHAME on people like you! If you did at least a little effort to read, take an interest, teach something, you wouldn’t bring such nonsense there! Reading all these crazy comments, I really want to believe that most of them are written by State Department trolls. Because SUCH madness, no matter how you look at it, abnormal, unhealthy! I know from experience in my numerous acquaintances and communications that in Russia most people are normal, not zombified, and understand what is really happening.
    2. +2
      18 October 2015 02: 49
      We read, we even comment, but the absurdities that were riveted above are not subject to comment.
  38. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 25
    All of Europe lives under US pressure, all the former CMEA countries think that if they are in NATO, then they can be rude to Russia. An awakened bear can cause a lot of damage. And the European Union is having a hard time for them - countries are getting poorer before their eyes, they are being crushed by stronger partners, introducing them into a regime of severe austerity. The day will come when all this rabble will ask to come to Russia, only they will have a different attitude.
  39. +2
    17 October 2015 11: 28
    They lived better under the Turks. It was in vain that Russia liberated this treacherous people.
  40. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 32
    Bulgaria's position is not surprising; nothing else could have been expected.
    Something else is surprising
    According to her, “the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry made this decision independently.”

    And what does the Ministry of Foreign Affairs have to do with this, according to the ICAO air code, decisions on allowing overflights are made by the air authorities of the transit country, but not by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs - “independently”, nonsense, excuse me colleagues, the “brothers-Slavs” scold.

    Something like this. hi
  41. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 36
    I’m surprised by your comments, look at the history of our country, no matter what it was always called, I emphasize, it was always one, while everyone was beaten, about Bulgaria, why are you whining?, our rulers don’t give a damn about monuments, legal statements, etc., maximum note they will write a complaint, and only for themselves
  42. +1
    17 October 2015 11: 40
    The Bulgarians are noticeably drifting towards the Balts and Poles.

    Quite disintegrated, frankly speaking.
  43. +2
    17 October 2015 11: 50
    It's true what they say: If you don't do good, you won't get evil...
  44. 0
    17 October 2015 11: 52
    Quote: Temples
    The Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs took this decision independently

    What's the difference?
    Justified!
    The result is important.


    Waiting for cookies - maybe there will be some
  45. +1
    17 October 2015 12: 05
    It seems to me that too much attention is paid to this. Forget about Bulgaria. There is no need to discuss it. There is no need to ask her for anything, so as not to be refused. Are there no other flight options? And on other issues this is not an indispensable state. Curtail cooperation and trade. Leave only required contacts.
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 20: 29
      Quote: jeezar
      There is no need to ask her for anything, so as not to be refused.


      It is necessary and necessary to openly ask for the passage of humanitarian aid, so that these “brothers” of the Slavs will not be able to get away with it later. Nobody asked or said anything. They made this choice a long time ago. One could not expect any other behavior from them. They have been predictable since the days of Ottoman slavery.
  46. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 16
    It seems to me that the peoples living in the Balkans are morally unstable in life.
    Because they were bent over more than once by all different nations.
    So different people have adapted...to changing patrons, without particularly bothering with the concept of honor.
    The people are like that. Plus natural conditions: the climate is mild, food from the belly,
    The population is recovering quickly. And they didn’t go to them with the goal of clearing out every last person.
  47. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 17
    It’s just that people’s memory is being erased. The war seems to force things to improve. Which path will humanity take tomorrow?
  48. 0
    17 October 2015 12: 21
    I propose to invite the Mongols to trample the European vegetable garden 5 times together. lol
  49. +5
    17 October 2015 12: 27
    Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke


    Bulgarians are not our brothers! And history has proven this, even though the Bulgarian land was abundantly watered with Russian blood in its liberation from the Ottomans and fascists, the Bulgarians stuck a knife in our back and are continuing to do so. Although, to be honest, the authorities never ask the opinion of their own people!
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    2. +2
      18 October 2015 02: 52
      Yes?! And how many Russians have you seen with a knife stuck in the back by Bulgarians?
  50. +5
    17 October 2015 12: 36
    The great Russian military leaders of the period of the “Turkish Gambit” are turning over in their graves from such treachery of those for whom they shed the blood of Russian soldiers.
  51. -1
    17 October 2015 12: 37
    Quote: sanyadzhan
    Yes, brothers, no matter how much I help you, you still happily climb into the bondage yoke

    And again “despised for the kindest”?! Oh well... am
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  53. -2
    17 October 2015 12: 43
    Wow, what a tantrum they threw again! wassat You were told that according to international standards, an application for a flight is submitted for review and approval 5 days before the flight, and you submitted the application 2 days before the flight. Or are international norms not a decree for you?! They would submit the application on time, agree on all the issues and fly. But it was necessary to raise a howl, because... The issue of signing an agreement on the repair of Bulgarian MIGs in Poland is now being decided - this is the real reason for the hysteria, because they flew through Iran without problems.
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  60. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 00
    Do the Bulgarian people benefit from friendship with the West? What did they get, did they live better!? Or is it servility to maintain leaky pants.
  61. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 02
    Quote: atalef
    Nice picture - tell me which of them are allies of Russia?

    So the fact of the matter is that in 24 years everyone was stupidly bought up, and the constant phrases of the Bugari Foreign Ministry “we made our own decision” are from the category of “we are independent” Ukrainians. laughing No matter, everything will be fine and this tolerant oppression and all the European Slavs will be thrown off!!!! wink
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 13: 30
      Quote: Val_Y
      and the constant phrases of Mida Bugari “we made our own decision”


      These are not permanent phrases - such a phrase was in the previous refusal, there was no such phrase in the current refusal - this is editing and manipulation by the author of this news to achieve the greatest effect on readers smile
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  63. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 16
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Good I
    Quote: atalef
    A goal like a finger is something new.


    “Enlightenment, spirit,” has many more discoveries in store for you... wink

    About how many wonderful discoveries
    Prepare the spirit of enlightenment
    And Experience, [son] of difficult errors,
    And Genius, [paradoxes] friend,

    used - Goal like a falcon.
    Like a finger belay Did you think of it yourself?



    Atalef! This is great and mighty! You can also say “not worth a penny,” just like your remark.
    And the word “premeditated” is used as “invented”. Feel the difference.
    1. -3
      17 October 2015 16: 36
      Quote: 1rl141
      Atalef! This is great and mighty! You can also say “not worth a penny,” just like your remark.
      And the word “premeditated” is used as “invented”. Feel the difference.

      I can, I’m not Russian and I’ve been living abroad for 25 years. wink
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 20: 40
        Quote: atalef
        I’m not Russian and I’ve been living abroad for 25 years


        Live in peace and continue. Hold your flag in your hands, put a drum around your neck and march around the palm tree. Why did you come to someone else’s house, put your feet on the table and shake your license? I got really excited here on the site. They're driving you away from here with minuses, but you still climb without soap. I chose the wrong place to walk.
    2. 0
      17 October 2015 16: 47
      Quote: 1rl141
      You can also say “not worth a penny”

      IMHO, if it's a damn thing, then it's an egg.
      And the penny is broken.

      I try with interest to imagine someone trying to eat a penny laughing
  64. +2
    17 October 2015 13: 22
    “Brothers” thank us for our sacrifices and “say hello.”
  65. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 26
    MFA please reprimand the “negotiators” and never contact these bad people again!
    About the dead it’s either good or not at all! am
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  68. +2
    17 October 2015 13: 32
    Quote: da Vinci
    And where is the Bulgarian brother who claimed that this site is biased against Bulgaria? smile

    Isn't that right? You're completely crazy! Hysteria like crazy! What's in your head? In what way do you differ from the same U-K-R-s who have gone blind and zealously hate Russians? You have reached the same state, only for you, the object of such irrational hatred for some reason turned out to be the Bulgarian people! Look at the crazy, ignorant comments you write! Hundreds of things have already been done, just on one topic! And then you will be angry with yourself that “here, the Bulgarians are traitors, they don’t love us!” Calm down at last! Without realizing it, you are making enemies of even the most pro-Russian peoples! You don't have enough enemies, but you still want to create them?
    1. 0
      17 October 2015 17: 51
      Quote: pytar
      In what way do you differ from the same U-K-R-s who have gone blind and zealously hate Russians?

      Do you believe this too? That Ukrainians hate Russians? This is a lie. Some are stupid lies, but mostly blatant lies. With the exception of a small percentage of fools (in any nation, up to 5% are violently insane and other schizophrenics), Ukrainians treat Russians (meaning citizens and residents of Russia) WELL. They are definitely treated WELL. Don't believe internet rumors and gossip.
      1. +2
        17 October 2015 17: 59
        It was not by chance that I used that concept u-k-r-y! I didn’t talk about Ukrainians! These are completely different things! Maybe it’s time to introduce some similar concept for those “Russians” who are also zombied by Western propaganda and, thanks to their ignorance and small-mindedness, do not care about the Bulgarian people! By the way, the Pin-Dos trolls are “working” massively here too!
  69. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 32
    They forgot Shipka "brothers"! Well, we need to give them a “mirror” answer. Let them be friends with the Turks. They have already shown what friends they are to the Bulgarians. And the USA and the European Union are even more insidious and brazen.
  70. -1
    17 October 2015 13: 39
    So many comments and emotions! fellow After highly rated news about Ukraine, then about Syria, news and articles about Bulgaria (however, this news was provoked by Russia itself) take the leading place in terms of the number of comments. Yes, Leonid Reshetnikov is right - Bulgaria is important for Russia. smile drinks
  71. +2
    17 October 2015 13: 44
    Quote: Gormengast
    The Bulgarians are noticeably drifting towards the Balts and Poles.
    Quite disintegrated, frankly speaking.

    And if we’re being completely honest, the situation in Bulgaria is fundamentally different from the situation in the Baltic states and Poland. The pro-Western policy of the “Bulgarian” governments is not supported by the Bulgarian people, who in their overwhelming majority remain Russophile, for the difference, for example, from the Poles and the Balts. In Bulgaria there is a very noticeable difference between the people and the government. This is to such a stage that most political commentators talk about the government and the people as completely different things!
  72. +1
    17 October 2015 13: 48
    Actually, I'm already tired of fighting these bubbles from the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry! laughing
  73. 0
    17 October 2015 13: 50
    Could be so! love
  74. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 00
    Quote: atalef
    Yes, they lived well there. only there is no USSR. and they don’t owe Russia anything for this

    And the fact that EXACTLY RUSSIA fought with the Turks twice over Bulgaria does not oblige anyone to anything??? At least don’t betray me again!!! Although, you won’t understand this... Read the history of your country... Who was the first to supply weapons to the Jews after the Second World War when the Arabs started beating them? - The USSR supplied the Jews partly with its own weapons and partly with captured German weapons!!! True, very soon the Jews happily “forgot” about this service and turned “back to the USSR, to the pin@dos in front”... Well, who turns back to us - then excuse me, as in the good old fairy tale and RUSSIAN TRADITION DON’T JUDGE YOU! !!
    1. -2
      17 October 2015 16: 33
      Quote: GEORGE
      And the fact that EXACTLY RUSSIA fought with the Turks twice over Bulgaria does not oblige anyone to anything???

      at the moment - no
      You can talk about this as much as you like, but today it has no meaning.
      Quote: GEORGE
      Read the history of your country... Who was the first to supply weapons to the Jews after World War II when the Arabs started beating them?

      And what does this matter in light of the subsequent policies of the USSR?
      Quote: GEORGE
      True, very soon the Jews happily “forgot” about this service and turned “back to the USSR, to pin@dos in front”

      No, on the day of Stalin’s death there was nationalism in Israel. mourning, but then Khrushchev came and destroyed everything that the Father of Nations created.
      And where should we go? What if the USSR simply screwed us over by deciding to contact the Arabs?
      Quote: GEORGE
      Well, whoever turns his back to us - excuse me, as in the good old fairy tale and RUSSIAN TRADITION, DON’T JUDGE YOU!

      Yes, we remember well who helped our enemies hi
      1. +2
        17 October 2015 18: 05
        atalef, I have a question for you that is unrelated to this topic! I wonder if Israel remembers that during WWII, Bulgaria did not give up its Jews to the Germans, despite the fact that Hitler really insisted on this? The entire Bulgarian people stood up in defense of their Jews and none of them ended up in concentration camps! All those of our fellow citizens of Jewish origin saved their lives and, as far as I know, later became participants in the creation of the Jewish state! As far as I know, some prominent Israeli statesmen are of Bulgarian origin! Do people in Israel remember the salvation of Bulgarian Jews?
        1. +1
          17 October 2015 21: 21
          I wonder if Israel remembers that during WWII, Bulgaria did not give up its Jews to the Germans, despite the fact that Hitler really insisted on this?
          We remember the salvation of part, but we also remember the “Law for the Protection of the Nation,” just as we remember the “Prez March 1943, the origin and plan of deportation of the Jewish population to Bulgaria, organized by the government to Bogdan Filov through the Commissar for Jewish Questions, cato 11343 in Bulgarian Jews were sent to the Nazi concentration camp Treblinka."

          These are the grandfathers of these local Russian swearers and anti-Semites, whether willingly or unwillingly, but they saved most of Jewry. And for that, the grandfathers have their deepest bow and respect. And everyone else (except the Danes, and even those for a lot of money) cannot take on themselves as a group, no pats on the back.
  75. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 04
    You need to forget about the “brothers”. They have repeatedly opposed themselves to Russia. And this is in response to all kinds of assistance from Russia. Disgraceful......
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  77. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 18
    It’s okay when the “brothers” get into trouble again, and when they do, believe me, then we’ll remember these prostitutes all their “achievements” and “brotherhood”! And the monuments are painted
    1. -3
      17 October 2015 15: 59
      Better look at your monument to the “Associate Professor”! World historians to me too!
  78. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 25
    Bulgaria is first in line for the “enema for treachery”! - They won’t just get away with a meanie!!
  79. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 44
    Quote: pytar
    Prices for real estate along the Bulgarian Black Sea coast are the lowest in Europe. They are much lower in prices in Russia itself. But if you buy in Bulgaria, you must definitely consult with competent and TRUSTED specialists, since Bulgarian legislation / like all legislation in foreign countries / has its own peculiarities! Without knowing them, you can get very upset! I was surprised more than once to learn how the Russians sign treaties without even reading what is written in them! Keep in mind that the vast majority of properties in Bulgaria that are sold to Russian buyers are being built by Russian investors and are not associated with Bulgarian law firms! Often, obligations for the buyer are made so that the seller receives more profit not from the sale itself, but from subsequent “support, security, etc.” the same real estate. For this reason, utility costs for such dwellings are often tens of times higher than for an ordinary dwelling, given such parameters. Read the contracts you sign and consult with specialists! If anyone is interested, they can write to me in a personal message. I will always be happy to give advice or consultation for free.

    I coped with the prices for real estate and land on the Bulgarian coast in the year 2008. Real estate (apartments and townhouses) cost the same as in the Moscow region (special price for Russians, yeah!) and utilities for them are very expensive (1 kW/h of electricity cost 1 dollar then) 3 times more expensive than the Moscow average. Taking into account the fact that there is no gas on the coast.
    On land on the coast. The prices were incredible! over 10,000 EURO per hundred square meters! These are areas 40-50-60 km away from Burgas towards the Turkish border. There is no gas and there will not be until the 2nd coming. There is no electricity. There is no water supply or sewerage. And in most areas it is 1-2 km to the sea. Then the average price in good places for a hundred square meters in the Moscow region with gas, water and sewerage was the same 10,000 DOLLARS only (according to the then summer exchange rate).
    1. +2
      17 October 2015 16: 01
      From 2008 to 2015, a lot of water leaked out. From 2005 to 2010, Bulgaria experienced a boom in rising real estate prices! Most coastal areas were still being developed. The infrastructure was underdeveloped. Your information is already old.
  80. 0
    17 October 2015 14: 49
    They, “brothers,” probably “thought” that we, like the Americans, were carrying cargo for the Islamic State and therefore refused. But they forgot that Russia does not stand on ceremony with terrorists, but treats them in the toilet.
  81. +2
    17 October 2015 14: 56
    Quote: victor
    It’s hard to even comment on nonsense... My son, El Zina, hasn’t even made a speech from the tank, and the Bulgarians have already called on Alyosha to leave. Just live a little. But the people there are good - and the service is nothing, but about the military commissars - they travel with the National Guard, and once they were given pendals, they wounded several, then they imprisoned them, then... You are not my stars, I live here.

    Victor! I am amazed at your “judgments”! Is it true! Which Bulgarians called for bringing down the Alyosha monument? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? In Bulgaria and after 45, the communists repressed and massacred their ideological opponents! A lot of innocent people who had nothing against Russia and the Russians also suffered! After the 90s, a part (very small) of Bulgarian society wanted to demolish the monument to Alyosha! But the Bulgarian people DID NOT ALLOW! ORDINARY PEOPLE STANDED IN CHAINS AND PROTECTED THE MONUMENT DAY DAY! This is how Alyosha stands and will stand /Russian Soldier in Bulgaria/! There are always fresh flowers in his pedestal! Both winter and summer! Come and see for yourself! Why are you writing nonsense?! True, there is also a purely technical problem with this monument. The foundation of the stand, due to the deformation of the ground under it, is weakened and there is a danger of self-destruction of the multi-ton ensemble. Ksati in Bulgaria there are TWO monuments to Alyosha!
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  83. +3
    17 October 2015 15: 12
    Quote: Comrade Bender
    So no one has ever called Greeks, Romanians, or Hungarians brothers. And the Bulgarians called the Russian liberators “brothers” and swore eternal friendship. But, nothing lasts forever under the sun, just like the oaths of the “brothers”.

    We didn’t stop calling you brothers when Gorbi and Yeltsin committed the most monumental betrayal in world history! They destroyed and betrayed the USSR, the Warsaw Department of Internal Affairs, the CMEA and the entire Socialist Commonwealth! They betrayed ALL their allies, among whom Bulgaria was the most loyal! Before reproaching others, look at yourself first!
  84. +2
    17 October 2015 15: 21
    Quote: mike_z
    The great Russian military leaders of the period of the “Turkish Gambit” are turning over in their graves from such treachery of those for whom they shed the blood of Russian soldiers.

    The great Russian military leaders are turning in their graves, from some comments of their comrades. You must be ashamed.
  85. +2
    17 October 2015 16: 00
    Eh, brothers... I have the warmest memories of the Bulgarians and Bulgaria in the 80s... did you have a bad life? Who cares, just like us...But you were respected and treated with sincere sympathy...and now you are in the role of sixes living on the outskirts of the European Union...Remember the joke: Bulgaria is the 16th republic of the USSR... as it turned out, it’s not so offensive, it’s even funny... and now you are NO ONE, A COMPLETE ZERO... Although you were younger, you were brothers, and now you have become complete and utter lackeys of the mattress makers... a disgrace...
    1. +2
      17 October 2015 16: 09
      Dear brother, Life was good then, even though people never had enough! But be honest! WE DID NOT DESTROY THE SOCIALIST COMMONWEALTH! This was a terrible tragedy for us! Look at the links to the videos that I included somewhere above! Realize that Bulgaria was among the defeated countries and, as the former closest ally of the Soviet Union, was occupied by the West! In protectorates, the people do not decide anything! Although it must be said that there are anti-Western processes going on in Bulgaria, which are very worrying for the occupiers! That massive anti-Bulgarian campaign that is being waged in the Russian media is actually inspired by your fifth column! No sooner had they turned the Bulgarians against the Russians than what happened with the Ukrainians, and they are insidiously trying to turn the Russians against the Bulgarians from within at the everyday level in order to provoke the same response! Realize what is really happening and let's stand together against our common enemies! Although in the comments do not allow yourself to go to extremes!
  86. 0
    17 October 2015 16: 04
    ""Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs I made this decision on my own.""...

    This “independently” makes you laugh... Yes, you’re already afraid to sneeze on your own...
  87. 0
    17 October 2015 16: 06
    You are behaving dishonestly, little brothers.
  88. +1
    17 October 2015 16: 24
    Quote: atalef
    In order to betray, you need to swear allegiance somehow. Did Bulgaria swear allegiance to Russia?

    Dear "atalef". Bulgaria, of course, did not swear allegiance to Russia. But one day she turned to Russia for help, just as Ukraine once asked Russia to free it from the Poles, to free it from the Turkish yoke. And Russia sent its troops and liberated Bulgaria from the Turks. Now, like Ukraine, it does not want to communicate with Russia. Russian people died instead of the Bulgarians on the battlefields, saving their state, people and faith. This is betrayal.
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      17 October 2015 16: 46
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Dear "atalef". Bulgaria, of course, did not swear allegiance to Russia.

      That's about it, no oath, no alliance - no treason
      Quote: Алексей_К
      But one day she turned to Russia for help, just as Ukraine once asked Russia to free it from the Poles, to free it from the Turkish yoke

      150 years ago, so much water has flown under the bridge and so much has happened that accusing the Bulgarians of TREASON is ridiculous.
      Moreover, taking into account the fact that, in general, for the last 25 years, there have been no relationships.
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Now, like Ukraine, it does not want to communicate with Russia.

      Well, that’s how it is with people.
      They break off contacts with relatives, and then remember what happened 150 years ago, and not just remember, but accuse them of treason.
      Quote: Алексей_К
      . Russian people died instead of Bulgarians on the battlefields, saving their state, people and faith

      Apparently in vain. There was a mistake. They bet on the wrong ones.
      In general, Russians and citizens of the USSR died and were killed in battles in many places.
      As it is not clear, unfortunately this does not matter.
      It was necessary to preserve the relationship and keep it as allies, otherwise when there is nothing to say, they remember what happened 150 years ago.
      In general, I don’t understand, everyone admires the Russian Foreign Ministry. what has he done in so many years? All allies are confused. who were together with the USSR or Russia for decades.
      Who's left?
      Iran, Syria, Venezuela - yes, all of them are different from c.u.r.b.a.n.s. (sorry for the word) they haven’t called it anything before. Where are the Slavic brothers? Georgians? The Balts ruined everything and let everyone leave.
      hi
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        17 October 2015 23: 04
        Quote: atalef
        Apparently in vain. There was a mistake. They bet on the wrong ones.

        I don't agree with you. The influence of the Ottoman Empire was very great and it was a very strong empire, well armed with staunch soldiers. If it weren’t for Russia, it’s hard to even imagine what Europe would be like today. And perhaps Israel would not even have been created. These are of course my assumptions, because... history has no subjunctive mood.
        But, sometime after the creation of the state of Israel, Ben-Gurion turned to Stalin, since Stalin supported the creation of Israel, for help and asked to supply weapons. Soviet weapons greatly helped Israel at the initial stage of the fight against the Arabs and helped Israel establish itself surrounded by Arab states. But Stalin counted on friendly relations and, despite Soviet help, Israel gave its friendship to America for a perpetual and interest-free loan of $100 million.
        And then, off we go.
        Apparently in vain (the USSR helped Israel). There was a mistake. They bet on the wrong ones.
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  90. +2
    17 October 2015 16: 29
    Quote: victor
    Sometimes you at least find Wikisra...well, you find it, use it???Read the population under the damned commies, even now. Even of -7,2 and 1990-8,8...Where did 1,6 go???This is about Bulgaria .

    Victor, a real demographic catastrophe is indeed happening in Bulgaria. It is a fact. The population decline is the largest in the world. The collapse of the economy, the opening of borders, expensive and ineffective healthcare, as well as a number of other reasons, accelerated this process. But I'll tell you one "secret"! Destructive demographic processes have not begun yet! They began much earlier, back in the 50s, when in Bulgaria, under the influence of communist ideology, collectivization was carried out in agriculture! The Bulgarian people then were 90% rural! In the villages, each family had 8-10 children! THE FIRST POPULATION AFTER COLLECTIVIZATION WAS 4-4,5 TIMES SMALLER THAN BEFORE! And the destructive process accelerated! They killed the villages, and so they killed the Bulgarian people! The Bulgarian governments understood what was happening and tried to find a solution! They increased benefits for having more children, but the effect was different! The Bulgarians did not give birth to more children, but the Gypsies and Turks began to give birth to 7-8 children each! We gave birth more and didn’t have to work! The state should support them! This is how the current catastrophic imbalance resulted! “Nationals” already make up 36-40%! The bomb was planted 50 years ago during socialism!
  91. 0
    17 October 2015 16: 29
    Hmmm... Count Ignatiev fought for the wrong people on the diplomatic fronts... Well, the “brothers” would live today as Kurds as part of multinational Turkey.
  92. 0
    17 October 2015 16: 33
    It is necessary not only to keep records of such anti-Russian decisions, but to make and link with them in the future all decisions on providing humanitarian or other assistance to the country during emergencies and disasters on its territory. The path of the people to insight, supporting anti-Russian sentiments, must also come through the “stomach”. It is not correct to always blame the responsibility for anti-Russian rhetoric solely on one or another government.
  93. +1
    17 October 2015 16: 39
    Comrades!
    Stop trash talking and trolling here!
    As if your Yabloko and Parnassian people are not ready to sell all of Siberia for a dollar to the first person they meet at the first opportunity!
    The whole world saw how, when yesterday an unknown drone fell on the Syrian-Turkish border, how the RUBLE immediately fell in price and the “unknown” fighters for your (and not our) democracy immediately rushed to buy dollars so that at the first opportunity (at danger) sharpen your skis to the West... It’s a shame, brothers, it’s a shame to see this... laughing
    And they bought American, not Hong Kong dollars! laughing
  94. +2
    17 October 2015 16: 49
    Quote: Алексей_К
    Quote: atalef
    In order to betray, you need to swear allegiance somehow. Did Bulgaria swear allegiance to Russia?

    Dear "atalef". Bulgaria, of course, did not swear allegiance to Russia. But one day she turned to Russia for help, just as Ukraine once asked Russia to free it from the Poles, to free it from the Turkish yoke. And Russia sent its troops and liberated Bulgaria from the Turks. Now, like Ukraine, it does not want to communicate with Russia. Russian people died instead of the Bulgarians on the battlefields, saving their state, people and faith. This is betrayal.

    Alexei! Russia fought for centuries with the Ottomans over the Straits! She liberated the Greeks, Romanians, Serbs and Bulgarians! We will never forget this! But is the story really ambiguous? It is not black and white as many here try to show it! It must be read and known with an open mind! Russia’s actions against the Balkans were not always guided by fair motives! I mean almost the entire historical period after 1885, even until 1915!! This is a fact and I understand why you keep it silent! In fact, serious Russian historians and specialists give fairly objective assessments! Just read them! Much untruth is written and said among you, much to our regret! I’m surprised how they managed to fool such smart and advanced people as the Russians! After all, most of the facts are publicly available and there is no problem in finding out what really happened! Don't compare us with Ukrainians! The Bulgarian people do not have anti-Russian sentiments! The level of support for Russia, according to opinion polls, is the highest among all EU countries! More than 75-82%! Governments are indeed corrupt, but the time will come when we ourselves will deal with these traitors!
    1. +2
      17 October 2015 17: 10
      Quote: pytar
      Governments are indeed corrupt, but the time will come when we ourselves will deal with these traitors!
      We love fairy tales with happy endings, but only in childhood! Your so-called “time” ended back in May 2003, when you became a member of NATO! I feel sorry for our heroic warriors who died for the freedom of the merchant, which Bulgaria was and remains. If you want to challenge your opinion, look in a history textbook to see who Bulgaria fought on in two world wars!
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  96. +3
    17 October 2015 17: 14
    There are no more Bulgarian brothers.
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      17 October 2015 20: 46
      Quote: Const
      There are no more Bulgarian brothers.


      Were they in history?
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  98. -1
    17 October 2015 18: 02
    About the brothers - why should we be surprised? For the umpteenth time already? And this is what I’m thinking about, maybe someone has something to say - Close to the topic. The USSR was falling apart, everything was becoming more expensive, people were losing their jobs, many mentioned this. Those who received help from the USSR for many years were offended, dissatisfied, and angry. Nobody asked what happened to the older brother. Just “give me.” That’s how I read it. Maybe the GDR was worthy of everyone? I read something about the GDR at that time, but not much.
  99. +2
    17 October 2015 18: 15
    Quote: VadimSt
    Quote: pytar
    Governments are indeed corrupt, but the time will come when we ourselves will deal with these traitors!
    We love fairy tales with happy endings, but only in childhood! Your so-called “time” ended back in May 2003, when you became a member of NATO! I feel sorry for our heroic warriors who died for the freedom of the merchant, which Bulgaria was and remains. If you want to challenge your opinion, look in a history textbook to see who Bulgaria fought on in two world wars!

    Based on your “judgments,” I can judge that you are still at the same childhood age. You forget that you were the first in the 90s to scream and shout "Europe from the English Channel to Kamchatka, We are building democracy in Russia, We are building partnerships with NATO, etc." Do you have a short memory or are you really a child????
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    17 October 2015 18: 48
    As it turned out, the biblical truth “not by bread alone...” does not mean anything in the modern world; now it is very important who gives the cookies. A sort of “world prostitution”, pay and dance to any state as you wish. The Bulgarians, at their own loss, refuse income from transit, the Austrians, in violation of all international laws, forcibly land the plane of the president of an independent state. Therefore, we also need to move from “brotherly love” to the reality of life. The priority should be our country and our people, and then we can think and help our “brothers”

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