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US Army Opens Field Artillery for Women (reportage in 15 photos)

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US Army Opens Field Artillery for Women (reportage in 15 photos)

The US Army plans to open to women all military occupational specialties of field artillery except one. This was reported by one of the highest army ranks.



Army Chief of Staff General Ray Odierno gives an interview in his office at the Pentagon

“With the exception of 13F’s military specialty, we decided everything ... and we are not going to sue in order to keep it closed,” said Army Chief of Staff Ray Odierno.


This decision, which opens military occupational specialties, such as the “weapons calculation number” (13B) and the “specialist of the field artillery tactical data automated system” (13D), was taken just a few weeks after the army opened the specialty for women "Soldier engineering troops" (12B).

Also, just over a year ago, all officer positions in field artillery were opened for women.


The decision on the military registration specialty (MAS) 13F "fire support specialist" will be made when the army decides whether to open infantry and armored specialties for women.

“We intend to do this at the same time with infantry and armored forces, since this MUS is closely connected with infantry and armored units,” Odierno said.


These changes were the last in the framework of the passing company on the phased change of the “Rules of appointment to combat positions”, the rules that did not allow women to serve in combat units below the brigade level.

The campaign began in 2012, when the army opened 13000 posts previously closed to women; her goal is to open most of the posts for women by the end of 2015.


Since 2012, the army has conducted extensive testing in order to determine which MAS should be open to women and how it should be done.

“We worked out a lot of medical tests, we did a lot of testing physical qualities, we did a lot of testing how to integrate women into divisions, and it all ended quite successfully,” said Odierno. - We want the best specialist; if women are qualified and meet standards, we want to give them the opportunity to do whatever they want. ”


For military accounting specialties of field artillery, using data from physical research "we understood that women, as part of the artillery calculation, could do everything necessary to do this work and therefore we opened these MAS."

"The top military officials have not yet decided whether to request a document of refusal, which will not allow the opening of infantry and armored troops for women," continued Odierno.


“We are moving in the right direction, but we still have a lot of work ahead,” continued Odierno, whose tenure in this position ends soon. “It was a decision that I wanted to make, but to be honest, we didn’t have data that would allow us to make this decision earlier.”

The decision on the remaining specialties will fall to the lot of his successor, General Mark Milli, who is awaiting the decision of Congress.


Odierno also mentioned a comprehensive assessment at the ranger army school. Two students from this school successfully completed the 20-day mountain stage in August and were sent to the Florida swamps for the last stage of this course.


If they successfully complete the course, they may become the first female soldiers to successfully graduate from the ranger school.

“As for the Rangers' school, this is the most difficult military school for the development of combat skills,” said Odierno. “I think it’s important that women are given the opportunity to do this.”


During a visit to the Rangers' school, General Odierno said that it is not necessary, but desirable, to open the infantry and armored UEFA, but "I think it is important to give women the opportunity."

“They can enter the landing school, they can enter the engineering school. I believe that they are able to enroll in the Ranger School, ”continued Odierno.


“The assessment, which began in April, went very well,” he said, adding that “he was impressed by the students and the professionalism of the school’s instructors.”


Odierno also left the doors open for another comprehensive assessment.

“I believe that we may be organizing another pilot course for women,” he said. - I think to open semi-annual courses with the participation of women, but this decision will be made in the infantry school, because there is an assessment, coordinated with the command of combat training. We still need to make some assessments, but I believe that we are moving in the right direction. ”


Odierno particularly noted that the army did not change the standards for the ranger school.

“We have not changed the standards and are not going to. This school is very important for us, we have developed special standards for it for many years, they are very important, we support and maintain them. And frankly, in many conversations with me, women expressed in the sense that they do not want us to change them. No matter how long we do this, we are on the right track. ”



Materials used:
www.thebrigade.com
www.wikipedia.org
www.armytimes.com
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  1. Mihail177
    Mihail177 19 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +4
    Men at p. Indos end?
    1. Professor
      Professor 19 October 2015 06: 38 New
      -26
      Tereshkova flew into space because the men in the USSR ended?
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 06: 50 New
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        Quote: Professor
        Tereshkova flew into space because the men in the USSR ended?
        Oleg, hi , why immediately Tereshkova? because the whole world knows that the singing woman-cosmonaut-American !!! laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 October 2015 06: 52 New
          -43
          That's right, American. And precisely because in the USSR the peasants are over. lol
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 07: 04 New
            +4
            Quote: Professor
            That's right, American. And precisely because in the USSR the peasants are over. lol

            and the USSR immediately fell apart? belay
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 October 2015 07: 07 New
              -18
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              and the USSR immediately fell apart?

              Of course right away. What is 30 years across the universe? wink
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 07: 27 New
                +5
                Quote: Professor
                Of course right away. What is 30 years across the universe?

                now they are both fucking us ... It’s clear to you, but for what? laughing laughing laughing
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 19 October 2015 07: 31 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  .You understand, but for what?

                  For which they kill bully And so winked for company repeat
                2. Andrey Yuryevich
                  Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 07: 59 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  now they are both fucking us ...

                  because of the flag, you rake for two ... laughing laughing laughing
                3. Alexey Boukin
                  Alexey Boukin 19 October 2015 09: 35 New
                  0
                  A woman with a gun in her hands is unnatural.
                  Savchenko is an example ...
                  1. creak
                    creak 19 October 2015 09: 48 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexey Bukin
                    A woman with a gun in her hands is unnatural.


                    And women with a sniper rifle in the Red Army - is it like that, of course?
                    1. alecsis69
                      alecsis69 21 October 2015 11: 30 New
                      0
                      The war to exterminate the whole nation is unnatural, and under these conditions all possible resources are used. Only in such a situation can one turn a blind eye to the unnaturalness of a woman with a rifle, and the task of men is to protect women from this unnaturalness.
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                  2. PSih2097
                    PSih2097 19 October 2015 11: 50 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexey Bukin
                    A woman with a gun in her hands is unnatural.

                    and is the 52-K or 61-K gun unnatural? and in the cockpit of a fighter or bomber, attack aircraft?
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        2. mpzss
          mpzss 19 October 2015 07: 40 New
          +5
          Or I don’t understand something, or you mislead people, Tereshkova flew into space on 20 (TWENTY) years earlier, in 1963! Therefore, Tereshkova is the FIRST woman in space!
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 07: 56 New
            10
            Quote: mpzss
            Or I don’t understand something

            exactly ... do you have a sense of HUMOR? lol
        3. moskowit
          moskowit 25 October 2015 18: 01 New
          0
          "Are you even speaking the truth?" ... (from the movie "Traffic Policeman")

          Now I'll see ... All my life I was sure that our Valentina Tereshkova ...
        4. moskowit
          moskowit 25 October 2015 18: 14 New
          0
          You are both stars ... And I, the old one, had a fuss ... I began to watch ...
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 19 October 2015 07: 17 New
        15
        Professor, do not confuse the pedals and do not powder people’s brains. Tereshkova was part of a huge experiment on the effects of space (in general, with all its factors) on the human body.
        The participation of women in combat units is a completely different song. Israel didn’t do this from a good life, and still limits the presence of women and women's crews in a real battle. There will be a war - everyone will fight, again not from a good life. The United States is the third most populous country in the world with a smaller army. Women should be the exception, to serve in communications, management and other headquarters, and not in the rangers, let alone replace the Negro / Jew / Arab / German / anyone loading at least in the tank, at least in the artillery.
        1. iConst
          iConst 19 October 2015 09: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: inkass_98
          Women should be the exception, to serve in communications, management and other headquarters, and not in the rangers, let alone replace the Negro / Jew / Arab / German / anyone loading at least in the tank, at least in the artillery.
          - Yes! Figuratively speaking in the words of Gleb Zheglov - a thief should be in prison!
          The Germans (and indeed all of Europe) forgot the fundamental rule of the KKK (not to be confused with the American southern KKK!). Now that Germany with sausages, shorts and beer is waiting for oblivion.

          I venture to be known as a woman-hater, but the emancipation of women has not brought any nation to good.
        2. Hello
          Hello 19 October 2015 14: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: inkass_98
          The participation of women in combat units is a completely different song. Israel didn’t do this from a good life, and still limits the presence of women and women's crews in a real battle.

          I have a somewhat twofold position on this issue, on the one hand, the majority of women in the military cope perfectly with the load no worse than men. And in some professions, a woman, in my opinion, is preferable, for example, as a sniper. On the other hand, on the basis of personal experience, I am against and that's why : in the army, I got into a situation in Scheme when a dangerous terrorist was taken with us, there was a girl dog handler and it so happened that the girl got a bullet to fly into the leg, nothing dangerous. And now, instead of bandaging it and moving away as it should be with half of mine ldat there was a stupor from the sight of a wounded woman. Something like this (IMHO).
      3. Ayujak
        Ayujak 19 October 2015 08: 03 New
        0
        Clearly, this is black humor. I want to note that Israel is primarily concerned. You would remember about dogs. Well, those that Squirrel and Arrow.
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      5. Gronsky
        Gronsky 19 October 2015 09: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Tereshkova flew into space because the men in the USSR ended?

        Nuka, do you think there are women in the linear parts of the Zahal?
      6. iConst
        iConst 19 October 2015 10: 05 New
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        Quote: Professor
        Tereshkova flew into space because the men in the USSR ended?
        -So rightly so, professor, you fell off rightly.

        And the pendocs have really run out of "men" for their army. There was a great documentary where soldiers were interviewed.
        So it turned out that the vast majority are people who joined the army as a forced springboard: who is for university / college (benefits), there are a lot of passports in general - they are not yet citizens, getting a profession, etc. - i.e. to move up the social ladder.
        They all look at the army as temporary ... a nuisance, or something.

        Now the question is which army? Contractual - yes. Professional - in the full sense of the word is unlikely.
      7. Ajent cho
        Ajent cho 19 October 2015 11: 25 New
        0
        Tereshkova flew into space because the men in the USSR ended?
        They wouldn’t get out with Valentina Vladimirovna, so no one would remember that in Israel there are also many women in the army. And why does it hurt you so much? Want to talk about it?
    2. gaura
      gaura 19 October 2015 06: 56 New
      11
      Judging by the photographs, most of these women were not born in America. They have long had problems with recruiting, no better than in Russia. They fight a lot, many cripples, many coffins. So they are recruiting everyone in a row, including come in large numbers, who are given a green card for their service. Everyone is happy: the locals continue to grow fat, politicians fight with the wrong hands, those who come in large numbers get injured and join the ranks of the local poor cripples
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  2. mirag2
    mirag2 19 October 2015 06: 34 New
    0
    Originally. Amerikosy in the PC (political correctness) decided to outdo the EU?
  3. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 19 October 2015 06: 34 New
    +1
    Damn if the men are homosexuals and slobber, a woman is forced to join the army!
    A woman should be a woman, not a sergeant in a skirt.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 October 2015 06: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      Damn if the men are homosexuals and slobber, a woman is forced to join the army!

      The erroneous opinion that homosexuals are slobbering. For example, the Spartans did not consider shameful not just homosexual relations, but a connection with a young man younger in age. However, this does not mean that they were slobbery, very much the other way around, terrible grunts ...
      1. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 19 October 2015 06: 56 New
        0
        And who said that I said the same thing? I vkurse what was in Sparta, Rome, and others ...
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 19 October 2015 07: 10 New
          -1
          Quote: Alex_Rarog
          And who said that I said the same thing?

          You simply point out homosexuality as the reason for the shortage of military personnel. I would say the opposite, the army attracts homosexuals, an environment that is interesting, sadistic orders ...
          In the United States, when raising children, it is not team methods that are promoted, much less corporal punishment or punishment as such. For a young man who has not known a belt since childhood, being in the army is unthinkable, because there they can be punished, no one in the army will allow you to reason or not to execute an order, try to comprehend it and find the kernel of its rationality. Hence the problems because the army is not able to adapt to American society ...
          1. Petrof
            Petrof 19 October 2015 15: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Mera Joota
            sadistic orders ...



            it’s some kind of masochists, not homosexuals laughing
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 07: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: Mera Joota
        The erroneous opinion that homosexuals are slobbering.

        that you, that you ... they are so ... brutal! wassat
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        2. Mera joota
          Mera joota 19 October 2015 07: 28 New
          -10
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          that you, that you ... they are so ... brutal!

          You use a staged photo as a statement.
          My classmate served in the air defense, his company commander was a homosexual in the literal sense of the word. He himself admitted this because he wished to "make him pleasantly orally" referring to his "illness". My classmate rejected the claim and kept his word not to tell anyone before demobilization, only until demobilization ...
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 19 October 2015 08: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Mera Joota
            You use a staged photo as a statement.
            My classmate served in air defense, his company was homosexual in the truest sense of the word.

            you surely went to that site?
  4. Mera joota
    Mera joota 19 October 2015 06: 39 New
    0
    Got a question. Are there female gunners in the Israeli army?
    1. Professor
      Professor 19 October 2015 06: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Mera Joota
      Got a question. Are there female gunners in the Israeli army?

      In addition to the instructors did not meet. Maybe recently appeared. request
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 19 October 2015 06: 54 New
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        In addition to the instructors did not meet. Maybe lately appeared

        Those. purely in a teaching role? Not in combat units?
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 October 2015 07: 00 New
          +5
          Quote: Mera Joota
          Those. purely in a teaching role? Not in combat units?

          My mistake. I have not been drafted for a long time, and everything is changing very quickly in the army. They write that artillery was the first to open the door for women ...
          שים לוחמות

      2. Pimply
        Pimply 19 October 2015 14: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        In addition to the instructors did not meet. Maybe recently appeared.

        A long time ago, prof, a long time ago. 10 years how to serve
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 19 October 2015 06: 39 New
    +6
    I AM EXPERIENCY FOR ALL THE SERIES (JANES), AND THERE ARE THEIR DEPARTMENTS FOR THE MINISTER OF DEFENSE PROMOTE, GENERALLY HAPPY. LET THE SAME SPIRIT CONTINUES.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 19 October 2015 16: 17 New
      +1
      I'm afraid that for the command "LIE" you can get on trial - they will be accused of harassment. lol .
  6. K-50
    K-50 19 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +4
    Well, if the men dress in women’s dresses, then the reason is that the women of Matrasia go to the army. Someone must serve laughing
    1. 740
      740 19 October 2015 06: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: K-50
      Someone must serve

      They have transgender people there. belay
  7. D-Master
    D-Master 19 October 2015 06: 45 New
    +3
    army opened for women specialty "soldier of engineering troops"

    Of course, I understand everything, gender equality, the feminization of society, the rooftops of Americans who are farther away from normal people, but ... engineering troops mean work not only with the levers of an excavator and a bulldozer. But also a trivial shovel and sandbags, a whole list of earthwork and concrete work. It is clear that this is at least not effective ... I can’t understand. What is happening in a country with a population of 300 million people and an army of only 1.35 million, while opening up more and more specialties for women. Can’t men create competition for a place in the army?
  8. Loner_53
    Loner_53 19 October 2015 06: 52 New
    +1
    And there are such that nothing, and you can fight with which wink
  9. free
    free 19 October 2015 06: 52 New
    0
    how will they fight? I can’t imagine! Of course there are some women who are quite soldiers, but to enrich the army with women en masse, and for such specialties ???
  10. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 19 October 2015 07: 24 New
    +7
    I don’t even understand ... The article is devoted to the admission of American women to positions in the field artillery. In the meantime, we are shown pictures of girls serving in the 101st Air Assault Division. A very characteristic emblem - the head of an eagle and the inscription "airborne" ... in the 101st women are present in many positions, even in intelligence units (but there are not many). So there is a gap in the presentation and interpretation of the material.
    Meaning?..
  11. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 19 October 2015 07: 26 New
    +1
    somehow I thought about it ... but I still stubbornly cannot understand why all this is ... for a normal guy there is nothing worse than a dead girl or child. the desire to protect will constantly interfere. Divert. plus I forgot the exact numbers, but the amount of rape and other sexual crimes in the U.S. Army has long been prohibitive ...
    1. Ayujak
      Ayujak 19 October 2015 08: 07 New
      0
      so who in the sight will a woman take it or not? Well, maybe a sniper. after all, it will not be.
    2. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 19 October 2015 08: 22 New
      0
      Quote: cariperpaint
      for a normal man there is nothing worse than a dead girl or child. the desire to protect will constantly interfere. Divert

      they clearly have problems with "normal", "the desire to protect" has been successfully replaced by the desire to receive a salary. Motivating women to join the army is really interesting!
  12. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 19 October 2015 07: 27 New
    +1
    although it can only we have such feelings and they just do not care about their women ...
  13. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 19 October 2015 07: 37 New
    +1
    Well, the girls want to play war games ... Time is at least peaceful, why not.
  14. brasist
    brasist 19 October 2015 07: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    That's right, American. And precisely because in the USSR the peasants are over. lol

    And how many women do you have in the troops and what have the men also changed in trousers for skirts?
  15. apro
    apro 19 October 2015 09: 19 New
    0
    And nothing like that, there are pretty girls there.
  16. sergo1914
    sergo1914 19 October 2015 09: 26 New
    -2
    Why do they need it? Let them stand next to the firing towed gun. At least a howitzer (anti-tank - inhumane). Not self-propelled. Not in armor. And send at least one shell to the barrel with a wedge bolt. Let some fool cut off his finger. They will not return to artillery anymore. This is not for women.
  17. Astrey
    Astrey 19 October 2015 11: 07 New
    0
    Correct solution!

    If before, the birth rate fell from higher education in women. Now it’s also from military service. Not Israel, though.
  18. pts-m
    pts-m 19 October 2015 14: 34 New
    +1
    yes hi serve if they are interested or have nowhere to go. only hi do not raise their tail against Russia in the expectation that men of Russia do not fight women.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 20 October 2015 21: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: PTS-m
      yes hi serve if they are interested or have nowhere to go. only hi do not raise their tail against Russia in the expectation that men of Russia do not fight women.

      Support.
      They have those who do not want to work in the army.
      Let it be better to shoot at targets with machine guns than from guns at passers-by.
      But in a real battle ... I think their men will run ahead of women when the losses begin. Yes, and then they will file a lawsuit against the state that it endangered them.
      soldier