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Grand Parade in North Korea

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1. Dusk in Pyongyang, North Korea, October 13 2015. In the background you can see the famous unfinished construction - 105-storey hotel Ryugen. Italian architect Stefano Boeri called the Hotel Ruegen “the only fragment of science fiction in the modern world.” (Photo by Wong Maye-E):


Grand Parade in North Korea


2. A military parade began on Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, October 10 2015. (Photo by Ed Jones):



3. Warlords. (Photo by Wong Maye-E):



4. Kim Jong-un's speech is interrupted by applause every 20 seconds. He promises that the DPRK army is ready for any war unleashed by the American imperialists.



5. General view of the parade in North Korea on the square in Pyongyang. (Photo KCNA | Reuters):



6. Brave soldiers. Pyongyang, October 10 2015. (Photo by Damir Sagolj | Reuters):



7. No less brave soldiers. (Photo by Wong Maye-E):



“Many Western media write lies about us, do not describe the true picture, talk about some human rights, problems, but you have to see everything with your own eyes”

8. (Photo by Ed Jones):



9. North Korean Tanks Drive through Kim Il Sung Square on October 10, 2015. (Photo by Ed Jones):



10. The total number of military personnel in the army is, according to various estimates, from 850 000 to 1 200 000 people. There are about 4 000 000 people in reserve. (Photo by Ed Jones):



11. It's not easy to march like that, and shouting slogans. (Photo by Damir Sagolj | Reuters):



“We are not filling ourselves with enough, there are difficulties, many do not dress well. We live under sanctions, under the blockade of the imperialists, but we are building and building socialism! ”

12. The correct geometry. (Photo KCNA | Reuters):



13. Soldiers at a grand parade in North Korea, Pyongyang, October 10 2015. (Photo by Damir Sagolj | Reuters):



14. North Korean veterans on parade. (Photo of Maye-E Wong):



15. Sing patriotic songs. (Photo by Ed Jones):



16. The song is mischievous girls, Pyongyang, October 11 2015. (Photo by Wong Maye-E):



17. Dancers in red robes perform at a military parade, October 10 2015. (Photo by Ed Jones):



18. Bad luck. A lone soldier stands on duty in the pouring rain on Kim Il Sung Square after the military parade, October 10 2015. (Photo by Ed Jones):



19. The officers do not want to get wet, climbed into the shelter. Pyongyang, October 10 2015. (Photo by Damir Sagolj | Reuters):



20. The torch setting on Kim Il Sung Square looked very impressive, 10 October 2015. (Photo by Ed Jones):



21. (Photo by Ed Jones):



22. Heartily. (Photo by Ed Jones):



23. (Photo by Ed Jones):



24. Thus ended the grand parade in North Korea in honor of the 70 anniversary of the ruling Labor Party. (Photo by Ed Jones):

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  1. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 20 October 2015 06: 30 New
    13
    What can I say? CAN, at least hold parades. And let the real combat capability remain without "test by force".
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 20 October 2015 09: 13 New
      -17
      Poor, poor zombies ...
      Well, and where without sobbing from love for the great leader ...
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 19 New
        +5
        it’s you zombied by Western values ​​and they believe in the party which gives them what your power does not give you
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Explorer
        Well, and where without sobbing from love for the great leader ...

        Good photo, characterizes perfectly. Cartoon about Mowgli remembered, banderlogs also sat laughing
        1. propaganda NO
          propaganda NO 20 October 2015 17: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: Explorer
          Well, and where without sobbing from love for the great leader ...
          there’s no sobbing to the leader, that’s Toko’s Western values ​​(grandmothers, Conchita Vurs, drugs, expensive cars, and a friend in power who will help if something happens, etc., etc.) and criticism without substantive on the basis that you supposedly live better
      3. holding
        holding 20 October 2015 19: 47 New
        -2
        I agree.
        However, look-minus more.
        Conclusion-minus the same zombies.
    2. propaganda NO
      propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 17 New
      +3
      You don’t have any test of combat readiness by battle, but North Korea had a war, and now you can say they are at war, and combat readiness is higher than some countries.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 46 New
        -2
        Quote: Propaganda NO
        The war in North Korea was and can now be said to be at war, and the combat efficiency is higher than in some countries.

        North Korea has no money for training, no money for simple body armor for soldiers. There is no new technology, there is nothing that at least somehow spoke of its combat effectiveness. And there is no military experience either.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 15 New
          +4
          Alexander Romanov

          You are respected, without a king in your head.

          North Korea does not need money in your senseless understanding. North Korea is not integrated into the international banking system at all.

          There is a balanced domestic market with a nationalized banking system.

          By the way, for stupid Fursenko underestimates. North Korea has its own nuclear program, which they developed in complete isolation. And this is a serious technological development.

          Only on this basis can they be respected higher than all other nations of the world. And without any exaggeration.

          And for the degree of independence of their state, a low bow to them.
          1. forwarder
            forwarder 21 October 2015 14: 58 New
            0
            Quote: gladcu2
            And for the degree of independence of their state, a low bow to them.

            Here he is, a real Canadian. It offends him for Canada’s dependence on the United States. Are you planning to emigrate to the DPRK?
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 21 October 2015 16: 36 New
              +3
              forwader

              You want me to explain to you.

              The liberal bourgeois component destroys the state without offering anything in return. My state is also subject to this influence. It doesn’t matter which parties are in power in Canada. Liberals or conservatives. Both parties are brought up on the same values ​​and represent differences between themselves. But both parties can represent the clan interests of their bourgeois representatives. They are united by one goal, the state must leave.

              Since I am primarily a patriot of my country, this situation does not suit me. There is simply no other way. My children are growing and my friends have the same. We need a strong state, with its correct honest domestic policy. With all the social guarantees that were left, previous generations in this country. In principle, Canada’s foreign policy is of no interest to anyone if it does not affect domestic.

              And since so far, only a few countries in the world, including Russia, are loudly declaring their independent ambitions. It’s interesting for me to observe the work of a respected GDP. By participating in the forum of this site I also receive additional education.

              I will add. Take care of your state like the apple of your eye. Otherwise, there is nowhere to emigrate, run away. Remember the liberal bourgeois idea is limited only to state foundations. With the death of the state, the liberals will begin their self-destruction. The northern beast will come to all.
              1. forwarder
                forwarder 21 October 2015 16: 50 New
                -4
                Quote: gladcu2
                But both parties can represent the clan interests of their bourgeois representatives. They are united by one goal, the state must leave.

                Those. are they both communist? After all, the state, as I recall, leaves with the onset of communism. This is already fascinating. Go on.
                Quote: gladcu2
                And since so far, only a few countries in the world, including Russia, are loudly declaring their independent ambitions.

                I’m embarrassed to ask, where did you screw into this unfortunate and dependent Canada? Not from the RF case? Do not plan to return?
                Quote: gladcu2
                Otherwise, there is nowhere to emigrate, run away.

                Have you mined everywhere after yourself?
                Quote: gladcu2
                Take care of your state like the apple of your eye.

                You see, dear, you are throwing slogans at the wrong address. Decision makers, they are a little out of here. Therefore it is empty.
                Quote: gladcu2
                With the death of the state, the liberals will begin their self-destruction.

                Something I finally did not understand you. Everywhere in power do you think the liberals. But in the Russian Federation it is customary to call this word communist renegade. Where did the renegade communists come to power in Canada? How did they get there?
                1. gladcu2
                  gladcu2 21 October 2015 21: 58 New
                  +2
                  forwader

                  When I say liberal, they mean the bourgeoisie. Conservative or Republican, they are the same bourgeois.

                  The difference in the parties is the relationship to a particular clan business structure.

                  If the party raises the role of the state, creates additional social instruments, we can talk about progress. And the evolution of society.

                  Regression is the destruction of the state, leading to the transfer of property from social ownership to private. Or from one private hand to another with a loss of primary value, which is natural. Often criminal.

                  Yes, and a lot of things.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      Well what can I say? Able to carry out at least parades.

      This is the only thing they can do.
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 16: 28 New
        +1
        the patient’s first steps in healing are recognizing that the patient is sick. how they drove into Bosko ......... people and in a word can not beat out nonsense. and atomic rockets for what money invent? for money received from parades or something ????
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 18 New
          0
          no propaganda

          These Fursenko style people, give that North Korea lives at the expense of the IMF.

          I have already dropped the pat table and am laughing at NIMAGU.
  2. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 20 October 2015 06: 44 New
    -3
    I read a book about a smuggler from Sevkorea, their life is oppressed severely, there isn’t enough food, clothes, children for parents are not happiness but a burden. But the parade to all the parade parade!
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 20 October 2015 07: 35 New
      14
      Recently I watched on Russia-24 the broadcast of a Russian journalist about North Korea, incl. and about this grand parade. So, this journalist managed to get into, as she claims, a regular grocery store in Pyongyang and take it inside, as I understood by the quality of the picture, to a hidden camera. If this is certainly not a performance based on the Russian audience, but I was very surprised by the rather rich assortment in the store, especially in comparison with the anorexic figures of ordinary Koreans. Although the program claimed that it was the most ordinary grocery store, where everyone had access, and that the prices in it were quite affordable. Think about whom and what to believe?
      I have the honor.
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 22 New
        +2
        +++++ I agree
    2. propaganda NO
      propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 21 New
      0
      read more the propaganda of the imperialists and do not have your own assessment and analysis of objective things - the principle of the pyramid in the west, when the lower ones lick the upper .....
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 22 New
      +1
      SeregaBoss

      You read other defectors. Find two differences.

      And life there is not easy. The country they got mountainous and harsh. Bananas from trees do not fall.
  3. Alexdark
    Alexdark 20 October 2015 06: 58 New
    -7
    Parade for the plump King. Parade of super poverty and horror. Parade in the largest concentration camp in the world.
    The USSR was a great power, albeit with complaints, if anyone has one. And North Korea, this is an inhuman experiment. Someone compares, and in vain. Nothing in common, nothing. North Korea is a crime.
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      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Propaganda NO
        you were told that socialism is a concentration camp,

        No, North Korea is paradise. fellow When do you move to the DPRK?
        Quote: Propaganda NO
        . Everything in North Korea came from the USSR.

        What is the truth? Then find in official speeches or history books that the USSR is related to victory in the 1953 warrior wink
        1. propaganda NO
          propaganda NO 20 October 2015 16: 35 New
          0
          what victory of 53 year are you talking about ??????. If you do not read normal sources, at least read Wikipedia as usual the first 2-3 lines of the article.
          Official sources (speech, documents, textbooks) are the same as about the involvement of the Russian Federation in the war in the Donbas 2014-2015. Wars 51-53 and 2014-2015 are one to one the same.
          North Korea is one of the countries of the socialist camp. Everything social, military, economic, etc. is an analogue of the USSR. If you don’t think so, you bring at least one source refuting it.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 26 New
          +1
          Alexander Romanov

          Go to school. Big uncles are sitting here. It's too early for you.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 24 New
      +1
      Alex dark

      Since when is crime a crime to remain independent?

      This country does not live on IMF loans. The degree of independence is off scale.
      1. Astrey
        Astrey 21 October 2015 15: 48 New
        0
        Quote: gladcu2
        Since when is crime a crime to remain independent?


        The Canadian burns vitally!
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 21 October 2015 16: 42 New
          0
          Astrey

          Life is forcing.

          First of all, I think for my country. Understand correctly.
  4. Mera joota
    Mera joota 20 October 2015 07: 02 New
    0
    We are not full enough

    It’s interesting what ordinary Koreans think when they look at Eun’s well-fed face after such words ...
    1. SeregaBoss
      SeregaBoss 20 October 2015 07: 20 New
      +2
      What do they think? They think that this pack of fattening warlords, led by a fattening undergrowth, will ever amuse and feed them! At least the brains of the undergrowth are present, they escaped the recent conflict, after all ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 20 October 2015 11: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Serge Boss
        What do they think? They think that this pack of fattening warlords, led by their fattening undergrowth someday - ..

        Eat wassat
      2. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 17: 39 New
        +2
        what do you think seeing our oligarchs? what do they eat live, rest just like you? and in general "fattening military leaders headed by a fattening undergrowth" is a weighty argument to criticize the people shown in the photo
        1. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 20 October 2015 19: 54 New
          -3
          Quote: Propaganda NO
          and what do you think seeing our oligarchs? what they eat live, relax just like you

          They do not demand to glorify themselves.
          1. propaganda NO
            propaganda NO 21 October 2015 07: 53 New
            +1
            "they do not demand to glorify themselves" but how can you say that, then ?????????? Potanin, Abramovich, Yakunin, and many more people who allegedly earned money received from the sale of author's work Mikhalkov, Volya, Zverev and others. They live in silence and do not say anything or where about themselves ????? so what do you think ????? you don't see and hear how they live and their goal is to show off louder and stronger
      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 31 New
        0
        Serogaboss

        By the way, I did not see fat warlords. You have developed associative thinking.

        To North Korea does not work.
    2. atalef
      atalef 20 October 2015 11: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Mera Joota
      We are not full enough

      It’s interesting what ordinary Koreans think when they look at Eun’s well-fed face after such words ...

      They think that god should look that way.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 30 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        They think that god should look that way.

        Sanya, I have a question, why does she wear a moronic hairdo, just reins laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 20 October 2015 13: 06 New
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          They think that god should look that way.

          Sanya, I have a question, why does she wear a moronic hairdo, just reins laughing

          Because everyone else is smart there wassat
          ,
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 15: 17 New
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Because everyone else is smart there

            They are not worthy of such a cool hairstyle. wassat
            1. forwarder
              forwarder 20 October 2015 15: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They are not worthy of such a cool hairstyle.

              Rather, they do not have rights to it.
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        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 35 New
          0
          Alex Romanov

          And sanya, who is this?

          You watch your hairstyle. Dandelion.
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 29 New
      0
      MeraJuta

      Indeed, the ruler’s mug is well-fed and not pleasant.

      Well, maybe you tell me how to hold the country in his hands.

      Then one bald man with a stain on his head, was controlled.

      So for now, this country is independent. No one has the right to give advice to this lad.
  5. avt
    avt 20 October 2015 07: 34 New
    +1
    Such a normal disco in the fresh air. Parade - a review of the troops is something to call it .... well, nothing. laughing
  6. paxil
    paxil 20 October 2015 08: 17 New
    -1
    Living speaks under sanctions? I think that there are no sanctions from Russia and China, establish cooperation and live for yourself. The thing is probably different than what this country reminds of the 37th in the Stalinist rule does not allow the people to relax for a minute. On the faces of people ostentatious happiness, intense such.
    1. forwarder
      forwarder 20 October 2015 09: 10 New
      0
      Quote: paxil
      than this country is reminiscent of the 37th in Stalin's rule

      It does not remind, and this is precisely the real "socialism of the Stalinist type." A living illustration of the neo-Stalinist wishlist. They reckon with the dogs to walk around the zones after a hearty meal, but in vain. Instead, they will march just as cheerfully on an empty stomach and bawl funny correct slogans.
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 35 New
        +5
        where would you be now if not for Stalin IV, the Stalinist regime, the Stalinist reform and much more that took place from October 1917 to Aug 1991.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Propaganda NO
          where would you be now if not for Stalin IV, the Stalinist regime, the Stalinist reform and much more that took place from October 1917 to Aug 1991.

          I would live in the Russian Empire.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 20 October 2015 13: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Propaganda NO
            where would you be now if not for Stalin IV, the Stalinist regime, the Stalinist reform and much more that took place from October 1917 to Aug 1991.

            I would live in the Russian Empire.

            By whom? a worker or a peasant? or not really from the nobles?
            1. forwarder
              forwarder 20 October 2015 13: 32 New
              -6
              Quote: PSih2097
              By whom? a worker or a peasant? or not really from the nobles?

              Who cares? It does not matter. In any case, he would live better than now. The Soviets hurt everyone. Killed some. She robbed the others like sticky. So it would definitely not be worse. Only better.
              1. propaganda NO
                propaganda NO 20 October 2015 17: 57 New
                +4
                In any case, he would live better than now. The Soviets hurt everyone. Killed some. She robbed the others like sticky. So it would definitely not be worse. Only better.

                The words of a person who knows the story. If you are too lazy to teach history, you should know at least one thing that the West always, always, always and now dreams of destroying Russia, and at the time of world industrialization (early 20th century) if there were no Stalin IV it would destroy the whole country and the kings and their retinue would perish.
                The Soviet government was killing the enemies of the people, peeling off like sticky speculators and pretenders to oligarchs. if you are one of them then everything is clear, you are afraid of this alignment.
                1. forwarder
                  forwarder 20 October 2015 18: 20 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Propaganda NO
                  If you are too lazy to teach history, you should know at least one thing that the West always, always, always and now dreams of destroying Russia

                  aha, sleeps and sees. Yes, what's there. Doesn't even sleep. I thought these Soviet "passions" would never meet again. An, no. I was wrong.
                  Quote: Propaganda NO
                  and at the time of world industrialization (early 20th century) if not for Stalin IV it would destroy the whole country and the kings and their retinue would perish.

                  Miraculously, on the contrary, we must admit that Stalin and the company did not completely destroy the country's population. But how hard they tried. Here you have the "Collectivization" plan. Here you and "Industrialization". Then another plan, "Fight against the enemies of the people." I will not continue further, everything is already known.
                  But the population did not completely exterminate, although he could halve it. And now this is coming out of some corner ... a miracle and declares that halving the country's population means saving it (the population). Full scribe.
                  Quote: Propaganda NO
                  The Soviet government was killing the enemies of the people, peeling off like sticky speculators and pretenders to oligarchs.

                  I will not even clarify that this is all arrogant lies. Just see who she was killing. I just want to ask this ghoul, but what, is it possible to kill people for their political views? Is it good to kill for the fact that they did not like the Council of Deputies?
                  So you don't like modern Russia. What do you order the modern authorities to do with you? To do the same as Stalin did with the discontented? Why don't you try on Stalin's methods? "Enemies of the people" were bad, and you are good? No, they were not bad, they were dissatisfied with the existing regime. And you, exactly the same displeased. So, sit back and keep your mouth shut.
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                  2. propaganda NO
                    propaganda NO 21 October 2015 12: 52 New
                    0
                    my koment was deleted because I accused you (with a polite adjective) of not knowing the history; I explain to you there that you have incorrect information about whom Stalin considered unnecessary.
                    and you also have an insult and you do not delete comments. another is not justice. It seems to me that a little portal purchased by someone’s direction works with some unkind goals and does not cover all statements with other points of view in the public domain, so as not to spoil the main goals and objectives.
                  3. yastr
                    yastr 21 October 2015 16: 13 New
                    +1
                    You can not hate the history of your country. The anti-Soviet is always Russophobe.
                    1. forwarder
                      forwarder 21 October 2015 16: 35 New
                      0
                      Quote: yastr
                      The anti-Soviet is always Russophobe.

                      Everything is exactly the exact opposite. Which of the communists are Russians? They are internationalists (as it is written in their Charter). Those. Ivanes who do not remember kinship.
                      1. gladcu2
                        gladcu2 21 October 2015 16: 54 New
                        +1
                        forwader

                        I do not understand something. What do you want to convey to the readers of this site?

                        You probably want to say that the communist idea, which has proved its viability. Having restored Russia, having created on its basis the most powerful state of the USSR, is it losing the aspirations for progress to the thieving liberal bourgeois?

                        You do not have much logic. Will not work.
                      2. forwarder
                        forwarder 21 October 2015 17: 11 New
                        -1
                        Quote: gladcu2
                        that a communist idea that has proven its viability

                        To whom and how did she prove it? So far, of the "proofs" I see only the impoverished DPRK and no less impoverished Cuba. All the others have prudently absorbed. However, Cuba is already almost too.
                        Quote: gladcu2
                        Restoring Russia, creating on its basis the most powerful state of the USSR

                        Are you joking? In what and when was the USSR "most powerful"? A pug that sometimes allowed itself to bark at an elephant. But in no case, do not bite. Of course, at the same time, the inhabitants of the Moska were actively explained that this was an awesome sign of her power. Some, who were unconscious, believed. The rest laughed at such kooky political informers.
                        Quote: gladcu2
                        loses in striving for progress among thieving liberal bourgeois

                        You still explain to me your terms. And then your version is constantly changing. Then by this word you mean communist renegade. That, as it were, even a real liberal bourgeoisie, on the example of the Canadian. What will you have in the final version?
              2. ALEA IACTA EST
                ALEA IACTA EST 20 October 2015 20: 04 New
                -2
                Quote: Propaganda NO
                If you are too lazy to teach history, you should know at least one thing that the West always, always, always and now dreams of destroying Russia

                You called yourself "NO propaganda". And you yourself are pushing propaganda at the level of the Third Reich ...
                1. propaganda NO
                  propaganda NO 21 October 2015 08: 02 New
                  +1
                  I don’t push the propaganda of the 3rd Reich, I tell a short story: the crusade (conquest), Napoleon was dispersed to Moscow, Hitler with the plan of Barbaros, and the fall with his information war is what attempts to make Russia happy or destroy. And if it still seems that I am pushing the Hebel-Hitler propaganda, then perhaps your perception, understanding and interpretation is not entirely correct.
        2. propaganda NO
          propaganda NO 20 October 2015 17: 26 New
          +2
          the Russian empire decayed by 1917, it would not have collapsed and the Bolsheviks did not come to power. and in 1942, the remaining Russians would learn German and you would not have been by now. if you do not agree with this, then the naive Chukchi young man .......
          1. forwarder
            forwarder 20 October 2015 17: 45 New
            -2
            Quote: Propaganda NO
            and in 1942, the remaining Russians would learn German and you would not have been by now.

            1. Why is learning a German language bad?
            2. Why would he not be? What, only on the basis of Marxism-Leninism could he have arisen? Without Marxism-Leninism would children not be born? And how were they born in Russia until 1918?
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 21 October 2015 17: 03 New
            0
            Propoganda NO

            The Russian Empire was destroyed by the bourgeois revolution. Which was replaced by the socialist. Led by the party of the Bolsheviks. And then communist.

            Our great-grandfathers were able to restore the state from destruction and leave generations the right to call themselves Russian.

            Now, Fursenkovsky’s under-trained generation is trying to support the liberal bourgeois idea. Not realizing that their goal is the destruction of the state. Since only the state limits them in methods of enrichment. Including tax policy.

            The liberal bourgeoisie understands, but is not able to perceive, the fact that only in a strong state is the guarantee of its viability. This is the paradox of the struggle of opposites.
        3. forwarder
          forwarder 20 October 2015 17: 41 New
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I would live in the Russian Empire.

          Does it lie? This empire ceased to exist in February 1917. And the Bolsheviks carried out their armed coup (putsch) in January 1918.
          At that time, the country was not to be ruled for long by the legally elected Constituent Assembly. Prior to his election of the Prime Minister, which B. Savenkov was to become his party won the election. The Bolsheviks lost the election, so they dispersed the Constituent Assembly, destroyed some of the deputies, parted them, and partly fled. After that, a civil war broke out in the country.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 21 October 2015 17: 09 New
            0
            forwader

            Power is taken by force, and not in a state of permanent voting. The Bolsheviks took power and proved their cause by deed.

            So the story led to a reasonable conclusion.
            1. forwarder
              forwarder 21 October 2015 17: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: gladcu2
              Power is taken by force, and not in a state of permanent voting. The Bolsheviks took power and proved their case by deed

              In fact, in any dictionary this is called a putsch. Armed coup. The act is criminal and criminally punishable. In theory. And the fact that the Bolsheviks managed to get out, it happens and is lucky. But from this their deed did not become less criminal.
          2. propaganda NO
            propaganda NO 21 October 2015 18: 00 New
            0
            and here you have beguiled over the years. the great October socialist revolution took place in October 1917 (I don’t remember the date) soon there will be a hundred years and then immediately civil war
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            2. forwarder
              forwarder 21 October 2015 18: 17 New
              0
              Quote: Propaganda NO
              the great October socialist revolution took place in October 1917 (I don’t remember the date) soon there will be a hundred years and then immediately civil war

              You are an absolute ignoramus who does not know basic things.
              In October and November 1917 nothing significant has happened in the political life of Russia. Unless in Petrograd there was a minor armed disassembly between two groups, the Bolsheviks and the Provisional Government. The authorities in Petrograd succeeded in capturing the greats. But they did not calm down on this. They began to slowly and systematically armed seize power in the regions of Russia.
              Nobody paid special attention to this and no one showed resistance to them. Everyone was preparing for the election to the Constituent Assembly. Which in turn was to elect a prime minister (Russia was conceived as a parliamentary republic).
              The Bolsheviks later called that showdown a "revolution". And the subsequent seizure of power on the ground, "a triumphal march of Soviet power."
              In December 1917, elections to the Constituent Assembly were held. The Bolsheviks lost them. Therefore, in January 1918. They dispersed the Constituent Assembly and seized power clearly, without reservations. After that, the Civil War began in Russia.
              1. propaganda NO
                propaganda NO 26 October 2015 08: 09 New
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                It didn’t happen for you in October-November 1917, but in reality the Soviets took power by the method of rebellion and military force and instructions, decrees, appeals, decrees, orders, orders gave to places from Smolny, and not from the border, a hut or Siberia, from that moment it is considered the formation of Soviet power in Russia.
                But not in all settlements and not all (there were fewer of them) recognized the Soviet regime and civil war and military intervention began.
                The triumphal procession of Soviet power is the destruction of White-Bondites, cronies of the tsars, foreign agents, military intervention of different nationalities and colors.
                I don’t know what you consider to be a radical overthrow in the rule of the country, but keep in mind that long before October 1917 and after there were also all kinds of elections, strikes, rallies, uprising, bloody Sundays, etc., but all this was not the starting point of the Soviet regime
        4. propaganda NO
          propaganda NO 21 October 2015 11: 00 New
          +2
          Something here knocks off everyone's memory completely, they remember only when they often talk in the media closer to May 9. WWII 1941-1945 is a war of extermination. the Aryan nation tried to destroy the Slavs because of the "subhuman" version. this is the first war of mankind in which the goal was set to destroy the peoples completely. if you are a Slav (and I am sure of that) how can you say that you would live with RosImper. after World War I, Hitler "had a grudge" against Russia, and he would have gone east with the war anyway, and Russia's political system has nothing to do with it. even if you became a probe-team, a policeman, or some other dishonesty, then over time you would be ubbbbilia. The plan "Ost", approved by Hitler, prescribed this for execution.
          you completely justify the category of a naive Chukchi young man (no offense and insults).
          1. forwarder
            forwarder 21 October 2015 13: 00 New
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            Quote: Propaganda NO
            The plan "Ost", approved by Hitler, prescribed this for execution.

            I just can’t find the information, I count on your help:
            1. When and by whom the plan "Ost" was drawn up.
            2. When and by whom it was approved.
            3. What did he prescribe to do, what actions did he envisage?
            Thanks in advance for your help.
            Quote: Propaganda NO
            the Aryan nation tried to destroy the Slavs because of the "subhuman" version

            And then what about the Slovaks? The Slavs are "subhuman", but Germany's allies. And what about the Bulgarians? And what about the Croats and the Bosnians?
            Quote: Propaganda NO
            after World War I, Hitler "had a grudge" against Russia

            Yes? And when did he manage to "grow up" with him? After all, Hitler fought on the Western Front and never crossed paths with Russia.
            1. propaganda NO
              propaganda NO 21 October 2015 17: 56 New
              +1
              odopm fukyupbtv pfuktyptv itpfyvbaptyvlyumtva puvbklptvybatm fyvapovt

              1. Yes? And when did he manage to "grow up" with him? After all, Hitler fought on the Western Front and never crossed paths with Russia.
              What years are you talking about now that Hitler never crossed with Russia and fought on the western front)))))) hahahahhaha and with whom then we had a war from 41 to 45 years old)))))) hahahahah. take a history textbook for grade 5 at least read it.

              when you begin to read the story, couch experts will know historical events on some comments.
              In the First World War, Russia also fought against Germany, which was blown away because the Tsar had disappeared (there he is dear) and by the way, Russia paid indemnities. World War 1 began for Russia, as usual, due to ambitions, the Tsar considered it necessary to help some Balkan country (I don’t remember exactly) and was mired in a war. Germany loses 1 World War and pays indemnity to England and France. With the coming to power, Hitler secretly raised the economy, production, military power, etc., without the help of the USSR. and considers it necessary to "take revenge" on the allies one by one. The word revenge is exaggerated. just after the 1st world Germany not only paid indemnities, it had many obligations, contracts under which it was not allowed to have factories, mines, etc. everything that could again appear in preparation for war. This is briefly about how Hitler sharpened the tooth that we broke off.

              2. copy the phrase "Hitler's OST plan" and paste it into a search engine, any search engine, follow the link and read, to the end of the article. there will be an answer and by whom when it was approved and what it assumed. By the way, the plan of barbaros was also approved by Hitler. I have a scan of the original map for the plan of barbaros.

              How old are you, it seems that you are a young man of 13-15 years old asking such stupid questions, your friends on this site are now blushing for your words, they are ashamed of you.

              read the story here is this section about how Germany after World War I prepared for World War II and knocked down almost all of Europe very interesting, you will learn a lot of new things and maybe you will find some analogy with the present
              1. forwarder
                forwarder 21 October 2015 18: 03 New
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                Quote: Propaganda NO
                ))))) hahahahhaha and with whom then we have a war from 41 - to

                I understood. The fact that Hitler fought on the Western Front before WWII until this moment was unknown to you.
                Quote: Propaganda NO
                copy the phrase "Hitler's OST plan" and paste it into searches

                Clear. And you don't know anything about Plan Ost. One empty chatter. And waving "big names".
                1. propaganda NO
                  propaganda NO 22 October 2015 10: 11 New
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                  I am not aware of any idle talk about the OST plan or any kind of waving "big names". and you are too lazy to read it, it is in the public domain. if there was time I would quote the plan ost.
                  Now I don’t have time to talk anymore, I'm going off on a business trip to LENINGRAD, after Monday I can go to this site
        5. propaganda NO
          propaganda NO 21 October 2015 12: 23 New
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          Something here knocks off everyone's memory completely, they remember only when they often talk in the media closer to May 9. WWII 1941-1945 is a war of extermination. the Aryan nation tried to destroy the Slavs because of the "subhuman" version. this is the first war of mankind in which the goal was set to destroy the peoples completely. if you are a Slav (and I am sure of that) how can you say that you would live with RosImper. after World War I, Hitler "had a grudge" against Russia, and he would have gone east with the war anyway, and Russia's political system has nothing to do with it. even if you became a probe-team, a policeman, or some other dishonesty, then over time you would be ubbbbilia. The plan "Ost", approved by Hitler, prescribed this for execution.
          you fully justify the category of the most-thirteen-year-old yun --- sha (no offense and insults).

          Copy text tired of writing the same thing
      2. forwarder
        forwarder 20 October 2015 13: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Propaganda NO
        Where would you be now if not for Stalin IV, the Stalinist regime, the Stalinist reform and much more that took place from October 1917 to August 1991.

        It would be a comfortable, secure, calm and happy life. I, my family and everyone else. Not that really.
        1. propaganda NO
          propaganda NO 21 October 2015 11: 05 New
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          Something here knocks off everyone's memory completely, they remember only when they often talk in the media closer to May 9. WWII 1941-1945 is a war of extermination. the Aryan nation tried to destroy the Slavs because of the "subhuman" version. this is the first war of mankind in which the goal was set to destroy the peoples completely. if you are a Slav (and I am sure of that) how can you say that you would live with RosImper. after World War I, Hitler "had a grudge" against Russia, and he would have gone east with the war anyway, and Russia's political system has nothing to do with it. even if you became a probe-team, a policeman, or some other dishonesty, then over time you would be ubbbbilia. The plan "Ost", approved by Hitler, prescribed this for execution.
          you completely justify the category of a naive Chukchi young man (no offense and insults).

          Copy text tired of writing the same thing
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 21 October 2015 13: 42 New
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      forwader

      You probably lived under Stalin? Witness of the era.

      My mother is from a large family. She lived in a clogged village. She graduated with honors from the university. I studied French at school.
      Never encountering French in life. At Canadian customs, she was able to clarify in French. This is over the age of 70. This is about the Stalin era.

      And here the sofa talker Alex of the two-word novels cannot correctly relate. So to speak, the modern product of the vital activity of the bourgeoisie.
      1. forwarder
        forwarder 21 October 2015 15: 13 New
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        Quote: gladcu2
        I studied French at school.

        And why did they teach her French "in a crowded village"? I was always surprised by the Soviet "education system". Which in the USSR was traditionally called "the best in the world" (in the USSR, everything was either the best in the world, or had no analogues in the world). As a result of "learning", the output was a 17-year-old product that had a piece of paper, but did not have any knowledge and skills at all that he needed for real life. Mitrofanushka. The meaning of the 10-year existence of this product in an institution called "school" is still incomprehensible to me.
        However, the Russian "education system" surprises me even more. But this is not the limit of insanity. In some countries of the former USSR, this marasmic "education system" is brought to an even greater absurdity.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 21 October 2015 17: 15 New
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          forwader

          Do you know why to learn French, mathematics and physics in a hammered village?

          This is called education.

          Do you know what is the difference between liberal bourgeois training and education?

          You do not know, therefore you ask stupidly primitive questions.

          By the way, liberal bourgeois training just raises the dumb bourgeoisie. And reduces it to the level of animal instincts of self-survival from oneself.
          1. forwarder
            forwarder 21 October 2015 17: 57 New
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            Quote: gladcu2
            This is called education.

            This is called negligence. Goalless squandering of state funds.
            Quote: gladcu2
            By the way, liberal bourgeois training just raises the dumb bourgeoisie. And reduces it to the level of animal instincts of self-survival from oneself.

            Well yes. Only that something "stupid ignoramuses" live richer and richer. And helluva lot of wives, getting worse and worse. Could you explain this paradox?
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 21 October 2015 18: 27 New
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              forwader

              Normal education is sabotage in relation to liberal bourgeois values. And the negligence of their creators.

              And what do liberals have to do with the state? Probably, as private users of the tax feeder. You buddy, the word state, should be taken as the name of Stalin.

              But these people with the reflexes of animals at the feeder with gorges, who are temporarily not punished, call themselves the elite, in no way can and should not, represent an example to follow. It is for this that the educational system is intended. To set the right aspects.

              Humanity cannot go back to the past, to the bourgeoisie. The future is socialism. Evolutionary or revolutionary.
              1. forwarder
                forwarder 21 October 2015 18: 47 New
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                Quote: gladcu2
                Normal education is sabotage in relation to liberal bourgeois values. And the negligence of their creators

                How much longer will you tell the Soviet agitation? To teach dels in physics and chemistry, which they will never need in their life, as was the case in the USSR? Do you suggest this?
                In normal countries, a normal approach to education. Teach only what is useful. And also to what he wants, but this is separate. And not everything in a row and somehow.
                Quote: gladcu2
                You buddy, the word state, should be taken as the name of Stalin.

                Could I rather do something nice? Why should I remember the name of this ghoul?
                Quote: gladcu2
                But these people with the reflexes of animals at the feeder with gorges, who are temporarily not punished, call themselves the elite, in no way can and should not, represent an example to follow.

                No, well, still I have a question for you. So there you are all feeling bad, why did you go there? Well, ok, made a mistake, as you say. Come back. What is stopping you? No, you won’t sweep you out of there with a broom. Just tryndet much.
                Quote: gladcu2
                Humanity cannot go back to the past, to the bourgeoisie. The future is socialism. Evolutionary or revolutionary.

                Are you completely confused frames? Your socialism is just pseudo-religious feudalism. Who in their right mind and solid memory is moving back from capitalism to feudalism? Only if with the help of a putsch (armed coup) destructive forces.
                1. gladcu2
                  gladcu2 21 October 2015 20: 07 New
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                  forwader

                  Where I fumbled is none of your business. And I do not consider myself miserable. And I’m not going to put my fate on the block in a bright future. But since you are an interlocutor and ask questions, I will answer you.

                  After all, you are wondering why I am so sure that the future is socialism?

                  I will be brief and without going into all these theories.

                  Socialism is a state of justice. This means that the state, by administrative means, equalizes the rights and obligations of its citizens. But it’s not possible, since this is not realistic in principle. Each person is endowed with natural differences and it is impossible to bring everyone under one standard.

                  You know, there was such a wonderful entrepreneur Henry Ford. He created his social empire. He gave his workers the right to earn money and gave them responsibilities. In such conditions, each endowed with outstanding natural abilities received opportunities for implementation.

                  Absolutely the same thing was done by the greatest ruler of all times and peoples V.I. Stalin. He gave the right, defined responsibilities and provided the plus tools. Such as social guarantees and protections.

                  There has been progress.

                  The liberals of the bourgeois only want one thing - to use hired labor and in the competition to lower the level of income of the worker. I do not give anything in return.

                  One of the components has disappeared. Not secured the right.

                  Will not work. Selyavy, liberals.
  7. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 20 October 2015 19: 58 New
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    Quote: paxil
    this country is reminiscent of the 37th in Stalin's rule

    Not. Not the 1937th. It is more like Europe.
    Loyola times ... lol
  8. Astrey
    Astrey 21 October 2015 16: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: paxil
    than this country is reminiscent of the 37th in Stalin's rule


    Illiterate nonsense! Historians do not "remind" but reminded the commentator. It is impossible to copy what was 87 years ago even with such an absurd goal.

    Stalin did not have superparades, there were world-class parades, but not an end in itself, but a demonstration of military achievements. Achievements, in fact, were modest - albeit bold in form. The Victory Parade did not shine as a TV show popular; it still takes the viewer to others.

    You are too subjectively considering the material, so perhaps the writer of books "about the priest" can look at the present. Or a provocateur.

    Goodbye.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 21 October 2015 20: 50 New
      +1
      Astrey

      There is no need to copy. But the Stalinist principle will have to be used. Otherwise, it’s simply not possible.

      Do you remember that phrase when he said that his name would be raised. But they will raise it. Have to.
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  • verb
    verb 20 October 2015 08: 40 New
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    No, they are actually (most) happy and sincerely believe in the party and in Eun. Remember the same 1937 in the USSR. 100% of the population believed in both the party and Stalin. And 70 years of indoctrination is not a cat who sneezed. Look at country 404: only 25 years of brainwashing, and already "yaku on gilyak." And after all, children wow will think the same .IMHO: the next 80-100 years, there will be no fraternization with 404. We are not brothers. And the North Koreans, if anything, will fight to the last, as we did in WWII, because they have an IDEA, unlike us.
    1. With Siberian Cranes
      With Siberian Cranes 20 October 2015 12: 17 New
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      where are the numbers about 100% believing in the party? DO NOT carry nonsense.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 20 October 2015 13: 26 New
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        Quote: With Cranes
        where are the numbers about 100% believing in the party? DO NOT carry nonsense.

        the rest sat in the camps. as unclassified items ...
  • Pal2004
    Pal2004 20 October 2015 08: 54 New
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    Fanaticism is a terrible force ....
  • forwarder
    forwarder 20 October 2015 09: 06 New
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    Oh my god what sick people. And how miserable. A terrible sight.
    That's what constant brainwashing does to people.
    1. With Siberian Cranes
      With Siberian Cranes 20 October 2015 12: 17 New
      -2
      the same minus you
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 12: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: With Siberian Cranes
        the same minus you

        Only none of them, kicks, you can’t drive to live there laughing
      2. forwarder
        forwarder 20 October 2015 13: 28 New
        -2
        Quote: With Cranes
        the same minus you

        Minus, I'll survive it. But how can one strive for such a (!!!) ???????
        Those who minus, they want EXACTLY THE SAME !!!!! What do they have instead of a head? Or does each of them imagine himself plump?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 13: 34 New
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          Quote: forwarder
          What do they have instead of a head?

          Kim's hairstyle wassat
  • report4
    report4 20 October 2015 09: 54 New
    +5
    Only complete idiots believe the South Korean press about North Korea. I didn’t think that even such people come across here. In the South Korean press, bullshit is worse than Khokhlyatsky's delirium .. shooting a general from a cannon, relatives fed to dogs and other nonsense designed for idiots. Those who studied the history of the UK know that they even live there not richly, but for objective reasons (an almost complete blockade). But even in such conditions, they have a full cycle of heavy industry (we even bought hydraulic units from them at the time because our own was all about). And if you turn on the brain and figure out what technologies and industry are needed for a successful nuclear program, the template will break a little.
    1. forwarder
      forwarder 20 October 2015 10: 03 New
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      Quote: report4
      Those who studied the history of the UK know that even though they live there not richly, but for objective reasons (an almost complete blockade)

      Well, here the body from the same company drew.
      You who zombies?
      Is it someone who prevents you from developing normally?
      He doesn't like the South Korean press. And the photos from the North Korean parades do not say anything? They are more informative than any "South Korean press".
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 52 New
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        and what the photographs are talking about, share your conclusion. it’s you who are zombified by imperialist propaganda, not understanding the true and primary values. SevKor has an idea and they are moving towards the goal, while the values ​​of the West will have the time and the end of the course will become an ideal. moving in the wrong direction
        1. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 20 October 2015 20: 26 New
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          Quote: Propaganda NO
          what are the photos talking about

          This is an army of the 70s. When confronted with a more or less equipped army, the fate of these brave guys and girls will be unenviable ...
          Quote: Propaganda NO
          SevKor has an idea and they go to the goal

          And thanks to this idea, they still can not escape from the twentieth century. laughing
          Or maybe their goal is the Stone Age? laughing
    2. atalef
      atalef 20 October 2015 11: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: report4
      Only complete idiots believe the South Korean press about North Korea. I didn’t think that even such people come across here. In the South Korean press, bullshit is worse than Khokhlyatsky's delirium .. shooting a general from a cannon, relatives fed to dogs and other nonsense designed for idiots. Those who studied the history of the UK know that they even live there not richly, but for objective reasons (an almost complete blockade). But even in such conditions, they have a full cycle of heavy industry (we even bought hydraulic units from them at the time because our own was all about). And if you turn on the brain and figure out what technologies and industry are needed for a successful nuclear program, the template will break a little.

      A complete blockhead in Korea - one, the rest (in total) - thin, like people claiming about the blockade of Korea
      I wonder what kind of blockade is this, when, what is with Russia, what is the border with China, and Korea is selling weapons with half the world (including Assad)
      Kim drives his armored train across the expanses of Russia, including, well, and if we are talking about sanctions, then Russia supported them the same, and who generally needs an inadequate fat bobblehead 3 and also with nuclear weapons
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    3. propaganda NO
      propaganda NO 20 October 2015 12: 48 New
      +2
      objective, full-fledged analysis, without propaganda and belittling the political system
    4. frollog
      frollog 20 October 2015 18: 25 New
      0
      So the atomic bomb did under Stalin. And they are so stuck in this time.
  • timyr
    timyr 20 October 2015 10: 11 New
    +3
    They still have a war over there. The peace treaty was not concluded. But to believe that the South Koreans, that the North is not worth it. They tell tales about each other there. And how much does the peace-loving South Korea spend on the military budget?
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 20 October 2015 13: 28 New
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      Quote: timyr
      They still have a war over there.

      we have not concluded with Japan either, so what?
      1. forwarder
        forwarder 20 October 2015 13: 34 New
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        Quote: PSih2097
        we have not concluded with Japan either, so what?

        While nothing.
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      1. Banshee
        Banshee 20 October 2015 15: 25 New
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        Quote: forwarder
        Quote: PSih2097
        we have not concluded with Japan either, so what?
        Nothing yet.


        How formidable "so far" is written. And what, should everyone rush to prepare to repel Japanese aggression?

        Find here at least one to whom the absence of a peace treaty with Japan makes it difficult to live.
  • Xenos
    Xenos 20 October 2015 10: 31 New
    +5
    With tanks in the photo, the problem came out. Or the author is not aware that this is a self-propelled gun, or the Korean himself.
    1. Docent1984
      Docent1984 20 October 2015 17: 23 New
      +2
      Yeah, the tanks have a problem and the author) And also with the slogans in the ranks) People, apparently, are not familiar with military service at all, it is not familiar to him that they shout out greetings or sing songs)
  • 0255
    0255 20 October 2015 11: 30 New
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    Again, adherents of the great Marshal Kim furiously minus laughing
    Minusovalschiki, remember, if you lived in the DPRK, you would not even be able to minus anyone, because only the government has Internet there. Would you like to give up the Internet, transfer from a car to a bicycle, go hungry?
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      1. 0255
        0255 20 October 2015 13: 26 New
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        Quote: Propaganda NO
        another element of the anti-Soviet system is rubbing about hunger, a bicycle and the Internet. Not on the Internet and in the car the meaning of life is hunger, you are a witness to the famine in SevKor or you’re zombie quoting paid media. one dog will bark, others along the street howl with one voice, not even knowing the cause and justification of the barking - the principle of the herd.

        Have you been to North Korea yourself? So tell me how it really is.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 13: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: 0255

          Have you been to North Korea yourself? So tell me how it really is.

          You can’t take him there under escort, he will run away along the way laughing
          1. propaganda NO
            propaganda NO 21 October 2015 13: 01 New
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            Dear Mr. Generalissimo, allow me to ask for what they give the same regalia (yellow spots on shoulder straps or lapels) for NOT knowing history, for distorting historical events, for meaningless jokes, for reading and copying Wikipedia lines, for quoting your host, for unfair application site rules to visitors, or maybe you assign yourself?
  • zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 20 October 2015 11: 36 New
    +4
    Guys, is this what I think these North Korean soldiers are armed with Soviet machine guns created in the Great Patriotic War PPS-43?
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 20 October 2015 12: 04 New
      +6
      This is a submachine gun Sudaev PPS-43 arr. 1943, and in the pictures of the parade, North Korean soldiers are armed with Mosin rifles. But as I understand it from a very messy report, these photos relate to the historical part of the parade - the soldiers depict the soldiers of the Korean War of 1951-53. Maybe I'm wrong, because I had previously read that the reserve and militia of the DPRK has a variety of small arms from the times of World War II, mainly of the Soviet type.
      1. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga 20 October 2015 12: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        This is a submachine gun Sudaeva PPS-43 arr. 1943 of the year, and in the pictures of the parade the North Korean soldiers are armed with Mosin rifles.

        To go nuts fellow Then probably in the DPRK and T-34 is still in service.
        1. atalef
          atalef 20 October 2015 13: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          Quote: Aleksandr72
          This is a submachine gun Sudaeva PPS-43 arr. 1943 of the year, and in the pictures of the parade the North Korean soldiers are armed with Mosin rifles.

          To go nuts fellow Then probably in the DPRK and T-34 is still in service.

          In DPRK ALL in the ranks wassat
    2. forwarder
      forwarder 20 October 2015 13: 26 New
      0
      Quote: zyablik.olga
      Are these North Korean soldiers armed with Soviet machine guns created in the Great Patriotic War PPS-43?

      In fact of the matter. And given the performance characteristics of these "machines", we can safely say that in modern conditions these are not soldiers, but meat, beautifully marching to the slaughterhouse. And they pose the threat to this very slaughter exactly the same as real cattle for a real slaughter. Those. no. Props.
      1. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik 21 October 2015 08: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: forwarder
        it’s not soldiers, but meat,

        The meat in battle is a soldier without motivation, trembling for his ass and no matter what he is armed with even the coolest barrel with a PGF sight, although PPS is not decided by a man, but by the army of France. The army was armed no worse than the Germans, but there was no known motivation, the Americans were three times better than the Vietnamese in terms of armament and its quantity, but the motivation was many times less, the result is also known. If it were purely hypothetic to assume a clash between the US Army and North Korea without intervention from allies, I would bet on Koreans.
        1. forwarder
          forwarder 21 October 2015 09: 28 New
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          Quote: Egorchik
          it’s not a weapon that decides, but a man.

          This should be told to the calculations of forty-five, when the Tigers, Panthers, or at least the T-4 are younger.
          Quote: Egorchik
          Americans were three times better than the Vietnamese in terms of armament and number

          How many Americans were compared to the Vietnamese?
          Quote: Egorchik
          I would bet on Koreans

          And would remain with a bare backside. They do not have so much meat with which they could toss Americans. And in another way, they will not be able to defeat anyone. Too backward level of weapons.
          And the Americans will not contact them directly. There are a lot of people around who want to "help" them in this matter.
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  • report4
    report4 20 October 2015 12: 49 New
    +4
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: report4
    Only complete idiots believe the South Korean press about North Korea. I didn’t think that even such people come across here. In the South Korean press, bullshit is worse than Khokhlyatsky's delirium .. shooting a general from a cannon, relatives fed to dogs and other nonsense designed for idiots. Those who studied the history of the UK know that they even live there not richly, but for objective reasons (an almost complete blockade). But even in such conditions, they have a full cycle of heavy industry (we even bought hydraulic units from them at the time because our own was all about). And if you turn on the brain and figure out what technologies and industry are needed for a successful nuclear program, the template will break a little.

    A complete blockhead in Korea - one, the rest (in total) - thin, like people claiming about the blockade of Korea
    I wonder what kind of blockade is this, when, what is with Russia, what is the border with China, and Korea is selling weapons with half the world (including Assad)
    Kim drives his armored train across the expanses of Russia, including, well, and if we are talking about sanctions, then Russia supported them the same, and who generally needs an inadequate fat bobblehead 3 and also with nuclear weapons

    It is very cute (if you are a girl) or very stupid (if you are a male) of you, not knowing the materiel, to try to get into the conversation with a smart look. Google "UK sanctions". Google "UK nuclear deal" (in fact, the UK was deceived), read on what parallels the borders were drawn and see where the military exercises "South Caucasus and their allies" take place. You can also see about the genocide of North Koreans by South Koreans and their allies (there was such an interesting case). You can still look at the miserable South Korean news - where, in fact, 90% of these are fakes, but then they don't remember this, the main portion of informational feces for brains like yours is to issue. In vain you get into the topic - just shame.

    PS not for the "frame" above. Boris Yulin at Goblin talked about North Korea at one time - look, quite informative.
    1. atalef
      atalef 20 October 2015 13: 16 New
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      Quote: report4
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: report4
      Only complete idiots believe the South Korean press about North Korea. I didn’t think that even such people come across here. In the South Korean press, bullshit is worse than Khokhlyatsky's delirium .. shooting a general from a cannon, relatives fed to dogs and other nonsense designed for idiots. Those who studied the history of the UK know that they even live there not richly, but for objective reasons (an almost complete blockade). But even in such conditions, they have a full cycle of heavy industry (we even bought hydraulic units from them at the time because our own was all about). And if you turn on the brain and figure out what technologies and industry are needed for a successful nuclear program, the template will break a little.

      A complete blockhead in Korea - one, the rest (in total) - thin, like people claiming about the blockade of Korea
      I wonder what kind of blockade is this, when, what is with Russia, what is the border with China, and Korea is selling weapons with half the world (including Assad)
      Kim drives his armored train across the expanses of Russia, including, well, and if we are talking about sanctions, then Russia supported them the same, and who generally needs an inadequate fat bobblehead 3 and also with nuclear weapons

      It is very cute (if you are a girl) or very stupid (if you are a male) of you, not knowing the materiel, to try to get into the conversation with a smart look. Google "UK sanctions". Google "UK nuclear deal" (in fact, the UK was deceived), read on what parallels the borders were drawn and see where the military exercises "South Caucasus and their allies" take place. You can also see about the genocide of North Koreans by South Koreans and their allies (there was such an interesting case). You can still look at the miserable South Korean news - where, in fact, 90% of these are fakes, but then they don't remember this, the main portion of informational feces for brains like yours is to issue. In vain you get into the topic - just shame.

      PS not for the "frame" above. Boris Yulin at Goblin talked about North Korea at one time - look, quite informative.

      Young man, go to the bazaar, buy a rooster., Continued I hope you know
      1. forwarder
        forwarder 21 October 2015 01: 33 New
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        Quote: atalef
        go to the bazaar

        In Russian it will be "to the market". "To the market", this is on surzhik.
  • propaganda NO
    propaganda NO 20 October 2015 13: 03 New
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    How many Russian-speaking people who criticize the circumstances of being sucked out of the finger do not even suspect that they thereby assent to Pend's propaganda about the alleged insignificance of the socialist system and the superiority of the capitalist, while their parents and grandmothers themselves are made in the socialist system and do not even ask the question "where would I be if not the Soviet regime?" and the 5th column is not needed we destroy ourselves.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 October 2015 13: 36 New
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      How many Russian-speaking people who criticize the circumstances sucked from the finger, do not even suspect that thereby assent to the Soviet propaganda about

      Native, go to the DPRK and live enjoying.
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 20 October 2015 16: 24 New
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        I can’t only speak Korean, wife and 2 children
        1. forwarder
          forwarder 20 October 2015 16: 42 New
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          and 2 children

          Poor kids. What do they hear from childhood? That we may not read. And they have no choice.
          Do special services know about your "features"? Have you already been registered?
          1. propaganda NO
            propaganda NO 21 October 2015 08: 15 New
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            I bring up children without imposing their views, but I will not let them violate the framework and norms of proper behavior, unlike those who gathered here (most) and allow themselves to bark at an elephant (SevKor) as a pug (nodding for pen propaganda propaganda).
        2. 0255
          0255 20 October 2015 16: 45 New
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          Quote: Propaganda NO
          I can’t only speak Korean, wife and 2 children

          That is, you don’t have a desire to learn Korean and go live in the DPRK? laughing Do you love North Korea only at a distance?
          1. propaganda NO
            propaganda NO 21 October 2015 08: 12 New
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            I don’t like Korean, I don’t like English, I don’t like any languages ​​and countries other than Russia, and I don’t allow myself and others to criticize (I try to stop others) circumstances that are not fully appreciated and are empty imposed by anti-Soviet propaganda, like a pack of wolves, like us satellites.
            1. 0255
              0255 21 October 2015 09: 36 New
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              So take a trip to North Korea as a tourist. If everything is fine in the DPRK, then why are their special services always accompanying tourists, they are not allowed to take pictures?
  • timyr
    timyr 20 October 2015 14: 14 New
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    They still have a war over there.

    we have not concluded with Japan either, so what?

    Do we have a land border with Japan? Or maybe there is a demilitarized zone? Or maybe it ended in a draw, like in the UK and SK?
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  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 20 October 2015 19: 52 New
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    Grandiose, but too pompous.
  • Longmire
    Longmire 20 October 2015 20: 05 New
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    “We are not filling ourselves with enough, there are difficulties, many do not dress well. We live under sanctions, under the blockade of the imperialists, but we are building and building socialism! ”

    in North Korea, feudal monarchy and not hereditary socialism.
    1. forwarder
      forwarder 20 October 2015 21: 29 New
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      feudal monarchy in North Korea and not hereditary socialism

      I cannot agree. All in. Korea is still the same pseudo-religious feudal society, as it was in the USSR. Such a society is called "socialist", and the social system was called "socialism".
      But in the North. Korea has slight differences:
      1. The Chuchkhe ideas are pseudo-religion. This is Marxism spiced with Korean national characteristics. Simply put, there is socialism there, adapted to Korean national characteristics.
      This is a common occurrence. Ultimately, Marxism-Leninism is Marxism adapted to the national characteristics of Russian society. And Maoism is the Chinese version of Marxism. But all national "socialisms" are always based on Marxism.
      2. The form of transfer of power. It is hereditary, typical of a typical despotic society. This is also a national feature. The elected (for life, as in the main religions of the world) main minister of worship (no matter what he is called, General Secretary or Chairman) is replaced by hereditary.
      In principle, all these "socialisms" are conceived rather cleverly in theory. Stalin, who built the very first system of this kind from scratch, knew this sense. After all, he was a seminary graduate. Therefore, he was versed in matters of religious hierarchy and construction.
      But there is everywhere a weak point, which ALWAYS will lead to the destruction of such systems. Sooner or later they will collapse, because the system is completely unbalanced. Yet Stalin, although he was a clever man, was not enough.
      Why is that. The main religions of the world have developed an error-free algorithm by trial and error. Those who did not accept him, those had long since disappeared. Its meaning is that today you behave correctly, and tomorrow, but MANDATORY after death, the kingdom of heaven awaits you (in different religions it is called differently). Or punishment (also different names). But that's all after death. Therefore, evidence of the veracity or falsity of these dogmas is not and cannot be. And, most importantly, all this concerns a person personally.
      All pseudo-religions based on Marskism (socialism) are built on a different premise. There is no afterlife. Today you work for nothing, but tomorrow your children (at least grandchildren) will live in the kingdom of heaven (in Marxism such a kingdom is called "communism", it is somewhat identical to the Christian concept of "paradise"). Only this earthly delayed paradise.
      The problem here is that a person is basically selfish in essence. And she doesn’t want to work for a bright future. Therefore, only a small part of the "socialist" society agrees to plow on a voluntary basis. The rest need coercion of varying degrees. Therefore, in "real socialism" part of the population MUST be in a slave state and work for the balance. Otherwise, no socialism can survive. Just such a society will not be able to feed itself.
      In vain the Communists roll a barrel on Gorbachev. The USSR actually ended with the coming to power of Khrushchev. Who abolished this slavery for part of the country's population. Further, the system for some time existed due to internal reserves. And then they ended. Together with them, the USSR ended.
      As for the North. Korea, then everything is exactly the same. As soon as part of the population for some reason stops plowing for the balance, “socialism” will end there immediately. Because under normal conditions, without slave labor, it cannot exist in principle. It will end even without relief. But not very soon. And from hunger, along with the population.
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 21 October 2015 08: 16 New
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        from where he copied, admit, he himself at least read to the end
  • Old26
    Old26 20 October 2015 22: 58 New
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    Quote: Propaganda NO
    SevKor has an idea and they go to the goal

    Calm down, go ... Just do not reach. And so it goes that even those who helped them (China) no longer know how to get rid of such a neighbor. He already got them ...

    Well, hydraulic units - where else but in North Korea were we to buy. By the way, you won’t tell me for what kind of hydroelectric station they were buying ...
    And learn not to distort the Russian language (for starters). And then teach others who think correctly and who do not ...

    Quote: zyablik.olga
    To go nuts, Then probably in the DPRK and T-34 are still in service.

    Yes, it is in service. The numbers vary, but only about 730 units. T-34-85. most are in storage. There are about 250 in service. There are 140 more BA-64 armored vehicles ...
    1. propaganda NO
      propaganda NO 21 October 2015 12: 21 New
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      dear, I did not write anything about hydraulic units and hydroelectric power stations and I can’t answer the question because I don’t know and I don’t distort the Russian language, but sometimes to speed up writing the text I neglect some rules of the Russian language.
      I am pleased to receive an apology from you for unfounded accusations.
      and as for the achievement of the goal by the people of SevKor and relations with China, it’s not up to you to judge any relation to this, and I doubt your words since 2 countries with the same political system cannot avoid each other.
  • rusich
    rusich 21 October 2015 13: 49 New
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    damn what kind of thin herbs they probably eat the same
  • Old26
    Old26 21 October 2015 19: 23 New
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    Quote: Propaganda NO
    dear, I didn’t write anything about hydraulic units and hydroelectric stations and I can’t answer the question because I don’t know and I don’t distort the Russian language, but sometimes to speed up writing the text I neglect some rules of the Russian language. I will be happy to apologize for the unfounded accusations. It’s not up to you to judge what goal the SevKor people and relations with China have, and I have no doubt in your words since 2 countries with the same political system cannot avoid each other.


    Well, okay. I didn’t write that in North Korea, Russia bought hydraulic units, because your request ... whether. Well, to hell with them, with hydraulic units ...

    and I do not distort the Russian language, but sometimes to speed up writing the text I neglect some rules of the Russian language.

    And this is not considered distortion? I, if I write quickly and there are flaws, but I turn on the "fix" button and make corrections. Well, okay, to hell with him, with the language ... You can write as you want ...

    Sorry ... Sorry, that I write in an enemy language, you do not perceive any language except Russian, and you write in Russian in such a way that you cannot understand it, motivating you with fast writing.
    About the apology. And the face will not crack, so I apologized to the zombies ??

    I picked up pseudo-revolutionary views in the spirit of the "Juche" ideas and do not care that hundreds of people write to you that you are wrong. That North Korea is, in principle, an inhuman experiment on its own population, in comparison with which the excesses in the Stalinist policy of the 30s are childish?

    What the people who were there, the Russian Koreans, by the way, say that even people in North Korea are afraid to talk about relatives in South Korea so as not to get registered with the state security.

    A certain layer of the nomenclature lives, and lives well, has a business. The rest are zombied, just like you.

    But only these zombies can become the match that ignites a third world fire. For pig Kim-3 - He does not care what will happen to the people. He will try to sit out in the bunker, but the people - he will receive in full, especially if by orders "Third" apply WMD. Then they are rolled into the Stone Age and the survivors can breathe freely ...

    In relation to the PRC with the DPRK, of course, I do not judge, only you. And nothing that China this neighbor has already got. That even in the new edition of the treaty, the Chinese removed the article about the help of Korea by troops. It's nothing?

    China supplies North Korea much more than the rest, but the DPRK sometimes spits on the opinion of a neighbor. How to treat such a neighbor? Waiting to sit on the neck ???

    And as for everything that concerns Korea, I would read the traveller's notes on Korea, about his many trips there, about the attitude in the DPRK to those who arrive there, to others, in particular to its neighbors. About how they put obstacles to the same South Koreans, who created a joint high-tech zone there.
    Must read, real materials, not propaganda cliches

    Well, the fact that such an adherent of Stalinism does not know when the Great October Revolution took place is ....
    1. propaganda NO
      propaganda NO 22 October 2015 10: 20 New
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      a lot of confusion and not logic. there is no time yet to tell you about your mistakes. I’ll come from a business trip, I’ll try to convey your zombies and propaganda
      1. propaganda NO
        propaganda NO 22 October 2015 10: 40 New
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        Until Monday, try to figure out the date of the great October Social Revolution.
        maybe you acknowledge your mistake in this (this is not a question; this is my assumption in your insight and awareness of the true events that have occurred).
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 24 October 2015 21: 33 New
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    Quote: Serge Boss
    I read a book about a smuggler from Sevkorea, their life is oppressed severely, there isn’t enough food, clothes, children for parents are not happiness but a burden. But the parade to all the parade parade!


    I agree with you! But I do not agree with the minus writers "Urya-flagwalkers and jealous of the Juche ideas (what does anyone know? Google)"

    So, I myself am from Primorye (recently in St. Petersburg). North Korea is just a stone's throw from my house! Nothing at all! Therefore, I will list the facts. And only FACTS! And as Father of the Peoples, Comrade Stalin, said - "Facts, stubborn thing comrades!"
    1. Something like that in the 80th, at the mother's service (then still the KGB) an employee (Korean by nationality) went to visit relatives in the Land of Morning Freshness! Everyone was jealous - of course! Abroad! There was even a rumor about permanent residence. Then we were still very "friends")) So he returned, and spat on questions for a long time. It turned out that the relatives lived in some village and the headman !!! for the arrival of such a guest from the Great Big Brother, he ordered to give the family (apparently from the bounty of the party) as much as 2 (two whole) kilograms of dried flounder! Cool, yeah!?

    2. Back in 1988, two boys came to our class, the children of the consulate workers (the children of the elite, if anything). The first half of the year they went strictly in suits, whatever the phrase, the slogan "Stalin-Kim-Il-Sen!", Friendship, Brotherhood, etc. Then they obsezovalis, learned to spar in Russian no worse than us. In general, we were drawn into and imbued with the spirit of perestroika - beer, cigarettes, Vidiki, rock, etc.))) But, two years later, it was time to return to paradise abundance, under the wing of the Labor Party and the great ideas of Juche! But it was strange, very strange was the moral and political state of my friends - they walked around as if they were being hanged, handed out to everyone cassettes with music and films, magazines and so on. To our first questions, “why? - waved their hand and kept silent! Then they split up - they inflated something at least the parents would be removed from office (I think it's not worth talking about the consequences)

    3. In 1995, we are standing there under unloading in the port of Maizuru (this is Japan if that). A bulk carrier was moored at a neighboring pier, a commercial tone of 10-12 thousand. Again from .. guess where from) So the picture is - in the morning the Japanese dockers come. A ladder is being lined to them, they rise and the ladder is right there! (Probably no one would board the ship in the hope of escaping from the impoverished Japan to a land of plenty of equality and fraternity). The crew is not allowed to go further than the waist (apparently so that the hungry Japanese dockers would not beat and undress the rich Korean sailors or devour everything in the galley and artel)

    4. In 1996, I had the "honor" to visit one of the "ports" of the Great Land of the victorious ideas of Juche and War Communism. Impression? Well, how can I say, a dirty pier, rusty maid in USSR cranes of a shaggy year, a ragged sentry at the gangway, nobody was allowed on board (apparently they were afraid that we would inherit dirty shoes on granite pavements or something else we would go blind from the beauty and greatness of the Great country!), Well we were not offended))) We understood - the guys took care of us! Dockers were generally ready to take off the last thing for a piezo lighter) well, we are not greedy, so we gave it away (they probably have lighters on atomic fuel, but simple piezo is a valuable rarity request )
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 24 October 2015 21: 53 New
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    we go further -
    5. When crossing from South Korea or China in autumn and winter, they usually huddled up to the Korean coast (they talk a little less) and walked exactly to the 38th parallel. While you go to her mortal boredom - from Busan to the Rubicon (38-latitude), the entire coast is in lights, the sky is illuminated by flashes of megalopolises, constantly oncoming and passing steamers, the Coast Guard asks every hour - "Where and with what are you going? Are you okay? " Boredom in general! After the 38th, real fun begins - picturesque pitch darkness! Neither shore nor light. The sea suddenly empties! Through the eerie crackle of interference, someone (it seems the coastal service) in excellent English but with an equally excellent Korean accent is trying to ask us something, but (!) We, after admiring the darkness, lay down on the course of 20 degrees .. . home as if! From a fool! The beginning of the chatter, the head and the legs .. could have gone further along the friendly shores of the country of Kim-Il-Sung, but ... a little bit of good))) Oh, by the way! In the warm season, you can sometimes see pieces of wooden rafts not far from the shore (with strange marks similar to the caliber of 7,62 and 12,7 mm and burnt in places). These are just snickering and hoarse from shouts for the glory of the Labor Party and the Great Leader personally
    citizens tried to ride to their southern neighbor. So, just look at rotting capitalism. But, no luck! The valiant border guards caught such lewdness and slapped atatasheks to fellow citizens! "For you can’t leave the Social Lage .... oh, forgive Paradise!"

    6. Very strange gentlemen! I understand migrant workers from Central Asia there, Moldovans are sweeping our streets, laying bricks .. in general, you understand! but I ask you - why are citizens from a prosperous country doing the same! Where are the parades, such tall and beautiful houses (but for some reason flaky near, without curtains on the windows and with one light in the cartridge on the wire). I don’t know about you, but such a picture always put me in a stupor! I’m not used to it (((
    (hereinafter a brief retelling of one of the many cases as if from me)
    It is even stranger when our border guards catch "tourists" from the Land of Morning Freshness! Probably lost! The mushrooms went through the thorn under the current! And she literally encircles the Free Country along the perimeter. Electricity is not enough, you know, for businesses and housing, but for such a good as "thorn" you are always welcome! )
    Okay, who doesn't happen to? Well, you got lost, well, now you will be escorted to the nearest checkpoint at the border and handed over to the caring hands of fellow border guards. Your compatriots with Kim's badges on their tunics. But ... what do I see !? Tears? These are probably tears of joy)) And I hear the screams! Oh, yes, you probably praise your leaders and you can not hold back the joy of an early return to your homeland!) I understand! And here is the checkpoint. But, I understand everything! But why cling to my clothes, why bother? Are you going home? Strange people though. East is a delicate matter! Well, okay, the transfer procedure is complete, the honor is given, and we are going to disperse. We are lost to ourselves, taken in a caring ring with shouts and tears of happiness in our eyes, are escorted to a nearby ravine. Well, we don't see this anymore! We leave with a sense of accomplishment. Behind the back, breaking the morning silence, a discordant volley is heard - "Kalash. We think. The main thing is not in us !!!" a sharp turn and transfer of the weapon to a combat position, but - the sentry stood and stands calmly, waves at us and smiles)) "Probably there was a salute in honor of the rescued fellow countrymen! That would be even more imbued with the great spirit of Juche ideas" ! A beautiful day of early autumn was beginning.
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 24 October 2015 21: 56 New
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    I can still describe a lot of all sorts of cases, for there are a lot of acquaintances that there are sailors and border guards, and in general I myself have heard a lot from people "from there". But it's too late already! Now I will take out the beer from the refrigerator, cut salted fish, lie down on the sofa after the labors of the righteous and sigh sadly - "How lucky I would be if I were born in a great and free country such as North Korea!" Amen!