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Tactics action in the city. About serious in comics. Part of 2

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We continue to get acquainted with the French comic about fighting in the city.
The second part includes sections: use weapons, moving a fighter, moving technique "flash" and "photos", taking up positions and exchanging information among fighters.


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  1. Major_Vortex
    Major_Vortex 17 October 2015 06: 59 New
    +4
    The characteristic appearance of the machines hints at the origin of these comics.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio 17 October 2015 13: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
      The characteristic appearance of the machines as if hints at the origin of these comics

      Well, yes, and don’t go to the grandmother)))) but in general it’s not so badly drawn, accessible. funny pictures in the magazine Murzilka))
    2. bazilio
      bazilio 17 October 2015 13: 31 New
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      Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
      The characteristic appearance of the machines as if hints at the origin of these comics

      Well, yes, and don’t go to the grandmother)))) but in general it’s not so badly drawn, accessible. funny pictures in the magazine Murzilka))
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 October 2015 19: 13 New
        +1
        The title says that these are French comics.

        Thanks to the author. I use airsoft.
  2. free
    free 17 October 2015 07: 06 New
    +1
    Thanks to the author, great stuff!
  3. Strashila
    Strashila 17 October 2015 07: 32 New
    +2
    the material is wonderful ... BUT ... there is a number of sheets 61 ... 64 ... and in the previous article. Supplement will be or should be ... Thank you.
    1. 75mihail
      17 October 2015 11: 50 New
      +1
      We have to cut what to do
  4. papa-billy
    papa-billy 17 October 2015 07: 37 New
    +1
    Funny pictures, not ours
    1. Good me
      Good me 17 October 2015 10: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: papa-billy
      Funny pictures, not ours

      Our such:
  5. kplayer
    kplayer 17 October 2015 09: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
    The characteristic appearance of the machines hints at the origin of these comics.

    We continue to get acquainted with the French comic about fighting in the city.

    This is probably why the tunics came to comics, "Funny Pictures" for those who do not like to read, for example, the American army field (combat) manuals of the FM series (Field Manuals), ATTP (Army Tactics Techniques and Procedures), and MCRP, MCWP (Marine Corps Reference and Warfighting Publication) Marine Corps.

    Part 1 :
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    1. core
      core 17 October 2015 09: 52 New
      +4
      it is not a love of reading, pictures give a more accurate description and understanding of the position. Yoga exercises are also given in pictures, this is a guarantee of the correct posture.
      1. kplayer
        kplayer 17 October 2015 10: 07 New
        +1
        In fact, the mentioned publications (charters and instructions) are usually not devoid of images and diagrams, the same visual signals, without pictures anywhere.
    2. kplayer
      kplayer 17 October 2015 11: 52 New
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      Quote: kplayer
      ... "Funny pictures" for those who do not like to read ...

      Heh! minusator, I know the origin of the comics without the characteristic appearance of the "clerons" from the pictures (from where? - guess three times!), provided that FAMAS is available in foreign units, not only among the French.
  6. kplayer
    kplayer 17 October 2015 09: 31 New
    +1
    "Kleron" like most bullpup, well, is not suitable for aimed shooting from the left shoulder (without prior rearrangement of parts).
    1. Major_Vortex
      Major_Vortex 17 October 2015 12: 03 New
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      Quote: kplayer
      "Kleron" like most bullpup, well, is not suitable for aimed shooting from the left shoulder (without prior rearrangement of parts).


      Everything is simpler than it might seem at first glance. Just lay your hand on the receiver behind the window to extract the sleeve. And the sleeves hitting hand fly already on a different trajectory, not at all in the direction of the shooter's face. Nonsense of course is all, but in the case of the bullpup nothing else more effective was invented for the fighter.

      Bullpups with the ejection of spent cartridges forward or down until nowhere in the army took root. The mechanism of extraction and ejection of a spent cartridge case at the machine is a weak link in the whole structure and any, even its most insignificant complication, can negate all the advantages of a good machine in general.
      During the war, the Soviet Union had self-loading rifles with the ejection of shells back and forth, but operation showed their problem.
      Now, too, there is an automatic machine with the ejection of the sleeve forward, but it is only for special forces. Design thought does not stand still. The Americans also experience a similar rifle, but it is complete slag compared to the current samples. Then some Arabs are sucked in. They are not the first time.
      1. kplayer
        kplayer 17 October 2015 12: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
        Just lay your hand on the receiver behind the window to extract the sleeve.

        Will you think and remember this during the battle, or will you usually grab hold of the forearm to make a more accurate shot on which your or someone else's life will depend? It's easier to get a trunk with a classic scheme (IMHO).
        1. Major_Vortex
          Major_Vortex 17 October 2015 12: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: kplayer
          Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
          Just lay your hand on the receiver behind the window to extract the sleeve.

          Will you think and remember this during the battle, or will you usually grab hold of the forearm to make a more accurate shot on which your or someone else's life will depend? It's easier to get a trunk with a classic scheme (IMHO).

          A soldier must be taught the proper handling of weapons before a fight. An accurate shot in this position is difficult to obtain, and even from the left shoulder. Convenience is also not very. But on the other hand, the liners do not hit the teeth.

          The classic machine I prefer AK 5,45 mm caliber. There will be something better, I will gladly master the new weapon. Bullpups are primarily interesting for their compactness. In Israel, Tavor was received with a creak precisely because of the convenience of its use in battle conditions in cramped city blocks and inside buildings.
          1. otto meer
            otto meer 17 October 2015 17: 53 New
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            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            In Israel, Tavor was received with a creak precisely because of the convenience of its use in battle conditions in cramped city blocks and inside buildings.
            In Israel, Tavor was received with a creak precisely because of the lobby of the IMI company, no longer because of what. The IDF did not at all need to acquire a new weapon; it was completely satisfied with the various M16 variants - from sniper variants to a carbine. It is also worth noting that the M16 rifles are bought at reduced prices with FMS (financial assistance to Israel from America), while the cost of one Tavor is approximately $ 1000. And Tavor’s special advantages over M16, no matter how much IMI praised it, in general, aren’t. hi
  7. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 17 October 2015 11: 08 New
    +1
    The most difficult thing in battles in the city is you won’t throw a grenade when climbing to the upper floors, and you won’t throw a gap at the ceiling to throw you back, and if you don’t get in, they will shoot your head judging by these pictures only the first floors were going to storm or I missed from the first part.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 17 October 2015 12: 08 New
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      Quote: Siberia 9444
      The most difficult thing in battles in the city is that you can’t throw a grenade when climbing to the upper floors, and you can’t throw a gap at the ceiling to throw you back

      and you use RGN, with statement on blow ...
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 17 October 2015 13: 31 New
        +1
        It’s a good grenade, but when they’re holding a ladder at the sight and also throwing at the bottom, what you want to throw up is complicated.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 17 October 2015 22: 25 New
    0
    I do not believe that you can teach a fighter on this Murzilka
  9. Raider
    Raider 18 October 2015 00: 34 New
    +1
    I don’t remember in 94 that we were shown a similar thing in front of Grozny, at least something drawn is better than nothing at all. We are all in the field, and the cities were probably erased by a nuclear strike in the plans. And the level of education then, just show the pictures, the army was workers' and peasants. The children of merchants, landowners, industrialists and bankers did not serve, those who graduated from institutions. And the French, too, probably do not go to the army from a good life, they also have a problem with literacy. So it was not in vain that they drew the comics, on our "VO" every tenth person seems to have finished the "six-year". Probably they printed comics for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is no time for study, Banderlog will be taught to draw a cross and go! But seriously, when you are taught, if you are told at first, then shown, you try, and if you forgot to have a cheat sheet, it is definitely better to remember, because several kinds of memory work. IMHO of course. But in the form of posters at the training ground and in the classroom, I think it would not hurt. Good luck everyone!
    1. Izotovp
      Izotovp 18 October 2015 00: 42 New
      0
      Totally agree with you. Although not 6 classes of education, I would also prefer that the manuals not complicate. With pleasure I look through the instructions of 30-40 years, that's where it is simple, intelligible and sensible !!
  10. kplayer
    kplayer 18 October 2015 08: 33 New
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    Quote: kplayer
    ... US Army field (combat) charters of the FM (Field Manuals), ATTP (Army Tactics Techniques and Procedures), and MCRP, MCWP (Marine Corps Reference and Warfighting Publication) marines.

    In short, no one even leafed through these documents, most (four) are more familiar with the correct yoga technique? The audience just touches on a supposedly military-oriented site.
    I repeat, comic books are clearly not combined arms say so, and are used inside the unit, at the level of wall newspapers, for poorly fluent French legionnaires, for example.
    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
    In Israel, Tavor was received with a creak precisely because of the convenience of its use in battle conditions in cramped city blocks and inside buildings.

    However, some special forces of the IDF have not yet abandoned the M4 (and CAR-15). The British CAC preferred Amer M16 / M4 and their Canadian counterparts (C7 / C8) to the national bullpup SA-80 (L85), in addition to reliability problems and due to the ergonomic features mentioned above, including The same French MTRs (not paratroopers 11 ovdbr) were not limited to FAMAS, previously preferring rifles of the SIG SG-550 family, now added NK-416 and FN SCAR-L for naval combat swimmers.
  11. kplayer
    kplayer 18 October 2015 08: 53 New
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    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
    The classic machine I prefer AK 5,45 mm caliber.

    It's ridiculous! as if you can prefer something else if you are not a machine gunner or a sniper, except for the AK / AKS-74 / -74M, or 9x39 mm. there is full-time, both within a separate unit, and depending on the position in this unit. No need to create all kinds of legends about yourself, they forgot that the fantasy on the Internet is unlimited.
  12. Medvedb
    Medvedb 18 October 2015 22: 27 New
    0
    Curiously, you have to try airsoft.