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Two coalitions, two fronts

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From the fronts of the Syrian war come every day news. They can be clearly divided into two "segments": the first includes information about operations to destroy terrorist fighters by Russian forces and the Assad army with the participation of Iranian and Kurdish divisions, the second is filled with reports of actions by coalition forces led by the United States, or direct American support called moderate opposition. Since the Americans have previously declared the Kremlin’s "wrong" strategy in the Middle East, it can be stated that Syria has become an additional front of the Cold War.




Both sides - both Russian and American - periodically report to the world community about the success of their operations. Let's compare several reports.

On October 15, Igor Konashenkov, representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, said at a press conference that the offensive actions of the Syrian military forces forced the IG fighters to retreat. Regarding the intensity of combat flights aviation VKS of the Russian Federation, then it has decreased over the past day, said the speaker of the Ministry of Defense. This is due to the fact that as a result of the offensive of the Syrian army, the contact line with the terrorist formations is being transformed. "The militants are retreating, trying to equip new position areas and changing on the go the existing logistics system for the supply of ammunition, weapons and materiel," quoted Konashenkova RIA News".

As reported on that day TASS, Su-25 attack aircraft of the Russian air group destroyed in the mountains of the province of Damascus a camouflaged IG base. About this, too, told Konashenkov.

In addition, Russian military aircraft destroyed a disguised artillery battery in the province of Hama: “During the conduct of aerial reconnaissance by Russian unmanned aerial vehicles in the Khan-Sheikhun district, Hama province, a strong point of terrorists with a disguised artillery battery was identified. I will note that the presence of artillery positions equipped according to all the rules directly indicates the presence of professionals with good military training in the ranks of the IG terrorists. ” According to Konashenkov, the Su-34 bombers and the Su-25 attack aircraft struck a sudden group strike: "By precise bombs, six artillery pieces, ammunition and four units of off-road vehicles equipped with mortars were completely destroyed."

Konashenkov also reported on the destruction of Russian aviation in the province of Damascus, in the area of ​​Eastern Guta, the OSA “Osa”, previously captured by terrorists “IG” from the Syrian army. As a result of the use of the KAB-500 adjustable bombs, the concrete shelter in which the complex was located was completely destroyed.

In addition, the aircraft of the air group destroyed in the province of Aleppo the command post "IG" and the workshop for the preparation of high-explosive mines in the province of Idlib.

The next few paragraphs will be devoted to American achievements in Syria.

October 13, according to delfi.ee With reference to the BBC, the Pentagon delivered about fifty tons of ammunition to insurgents fighting against IG in northeastern Syria.

According to the Pentagon’s press secretary, during the night in Hassakeh province the C-17 plane dropped pallets with small arms weapons, ammunition and grenades. It is reported that all weapons were obtained by the rebels.

The leaders of the relevant groups are trusted by the US-led coalition, said a spokesman for the military.

Also in the press they write a lot about the preparation by the Americans of an offensive operation on the so-called capital of IG, the Syrian city of Rakka. The goal is clear - against the background of Russian successes in Syria and the apparent weakness of the American coalition, Washington also needs a victory. Desirable large. But Washington is not going to fight.

This is about creating a new alliance among the diverse Syrian opposition, which already has a name.

As the newspaper notes KommersantThe armed forces of the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union, supported by the United States, have joined the new Syrian Democratic Forces military alliance. His task is to fight with the Islamic State group. This was reported by Reuters.

The newly created association also includes groups of Assyrian Christians and some Arab formations.

Saudi television channel "Al Arabiya" notes that the new union is created under the leadership of the United States. Newspaper "Sight" lists the motley composition of the new association. Firstly, these are Kurds living in the north of the country and included in the insurgent groups "Popular Self-Defense Detachments" (YPG) and "Women's Defense Detachments" (YPJ). Both groups are subordinate to the "Democratic Union" - the party headed by Saleh Muslim. Secondly, these are the fighters “Burkan al-Furat”: the Kurdish troops and the “Raqqah Revolutionary Brigade”. Thirdly, the Assyrian Military Council is participating in the new alliance. Fourth, several other opposition groups joined the ranks of the union.

And here it may turn out that not all groups that have joined the next alliance have passed, as it were, a test for lice.

13 October TASS published a statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. According to him, in the "Democratic Forces of Syria", which the United States is positioning as a "moderate opposition", terrorist groups have been noticed.

Russia fears that a new US program in the region will once again lead to munitions falling into the hands of terrorists. “Yesterday, the United States reported that they had changed the concept of supporting the opposition; instead of training, they would drop ammunition,” Lavrov said. - Where does it go? Will they follow the jeeps that are in the hands of "IG"? "

“To be honest, we don’t even have any special doubts that at least a significant part of these weapons will fall into the hands of terrorists,” the Russian minister further noted. “This is a matter of concern, including in the United States, where the public, the congress, is beginning to ask questions about previous attempts to support the“ moderate opposition. ”

The United States is still moving away from contacts with Russia in coordinating efforts in the fight against terrorists, the Russian Foreign Minister noted. “Nobody has provided us with the coordinates of the moderate opposition. They used to talk about the “Syrian Free Army,” but it remains an ephemeral organization, Lavrov said. - Now they are talking about the alliance "Democratic Forces of Syria". We looked at its composition, there were seen groups that previously collaborated with the "Islamic State".

What should Russia do in this case?

Director of the Center for the Study of the Middle East and Central Asia, political scientist Semen Bagdasarov told the newspaper "Sight"that Russia should work more actively with the Kurds, both in Syria and in Iraq. Syrian President Bashar Assad should promise autonomy to Syrian Kurds. The Americans are preparing an offensive for Raqqa, which will be called "liberation." “We must support and supply weapons to the Syrian Kurds who are affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers Party,” the expert believes. - Moreover, it is necessary to assign our military advisers to the Kurdish self-defense detachments. Kurdish military must be taken to the Russian military academies. It is high time to invite Syrian Kurdish leader Saleh Muslim to Moscow and organize a meeting with representatives of the Ministry of Defense. In addition, it is high time to intensify contacts with the anti-American force, the Kurdistan Workers' Party. ”

Americans have long cooperated with the Kurds.

“Syrian Kurds have been cooperating with the American coalition against the IG for a long time, with the defense of the Kurdish city of Kobani,” said Yuri Nabiyev, president of the Society for Solidarity and Cooperation with the Kurdish People, at a glance. - Then the support of coalition aviation helped the Kurds to lift the siege of the city and win back some of the Kurdish territories. In the territory of Iraqi Kurdistan, the Americans prepared about seven thousand Syrian Kurds to attack the IS terrorists. Recently, a meeting of Syrian Kurdish leader Saleh Muslim and President of Iraqi Kurdistan Massoud Barzani was held in the presence of Americans. ”

As for Raqqa, the source said that the offensive operation to seize Raqqa for Americans is a matter of prestige: “For Americans, it’s a matter of prestige: they have to show at least something to their population and the international community after so many years of unsuccessful war against the IG . The Kurds, in turn, defend their homes, and they welcome Russia's participation in the operation against terrorists. Intensive negotiations and consultations are taking place between Moscow and the Kurds. ”

Syrian international journalist Abbas Juma, who asked questions "Free press"He believes that the Kurds are “in general” coordinating with the Syrian authorities. The journalist said that he had “information” on this score.

“If the Kurds storm the capital of the Islamic State in Syria, Ar-Rakku,” he said, “in this case, the authorities will certainly demand that they not join any alliances with Dzhebhat al-Nusra or with others small groups.

On the questions of the "joint venture" and said the above Semen Bagdasarov.

He believes that there is no doubt that the US has recently dropped 50 tons of ammunition: “It is clear that the cargo was intended for the Syrian Kurds. I have said many times that the “Kurdish question” is key in the outcome of the military operation “on the ground”.

The expert was asked the following question: “On October 10, in Paris, the Special Representative of the Russian President for the Middle East and Africa, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov met with the chairman of the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party, Saleh Muslim. Incidentally, he came to Moscow in August 9 of the year. In your opinion, did Russia fail to agree on cooperation with the Kurds in the fight against IS? ”

Bagdasarov gave the following answer: “Have we tried to do it seriously? It is clear that Saleh Muslim asked for weapons, and given that the Kurds are quite well-disposed towards the Russian Federation, many of them studied in the USSR, then we had every chance to turn the Kurds to their side, to make a link between them and the troops of Assad and these forces storm the capital of the "Islamic State". The expert added:

“In Russia we are now only heard, the Americans are fools, and we are supposedly the smartest, but in reality the States seized the initiative from us - we must call things by their proper names. And now it turns out that the Assad troops, with the support of Iran, Hezbollah and our aviation, are attacked mainly by groups that do not belong to the IG, while the Americans have formed an alliance that will directly attack Al-Rakka. Here's a deal. ”


Let's sum up.

In Syria, there have been two coalitions. The first is based on the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian army, supported by Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah. The second is led by the United States. In addition to the states that have joined the United States, the “Democratic Forces of Syria”, including the united Kurdish forces, will take part in it. Experts have no doubt that Washington is betting on the Kurds, who are generously endowed with weapons. Russia, on the other hand, seems to have missed the Kurdish chance.

Washington needs a victory in the region, a victory by someone else’s hands, but on condition of American participation (so that was something to talk about). As a result of the victory (attack on Rakka), the State Department could proclaim success on the Syrian front of democratic forces supported by great America. Thus, Washington could raise its prestige, and at the same time and once again click on the nose of Moscow: they say, while you are fighting on the side of the “tyrant Assad”, the democratic forces are fighting with our help in Syria with terrorists for a bright future. And if the "Syrian Democratic Forces" succeed on the front, it will be difficult to protest against American criticism.

The territory of Syria will eventually be divided into even more fronts. The Kurds are unlikely to turn their weapons against Assad, but the composition of the “Syrian Democratic Forces” is heterogeneous, and the name itself says a lot.

Only a true alliance of forces ready to confront terrorists can lead to a common success and defeat the IS. But as long as the United States and Russia will implement separate plans and separate strategies in the region, relying on different allies, the chances of a complete victory will remain small. The Syrian conflict can be protracted and become another episode of the Cold War, demonstrating not international competition, but international political competition.

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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 19 October 2015 06: 42 New
    +8
    Syria has become an additional front of the Cold War.


    Naturally .... for the US, the main thing is not the fight against ISIS but the overthrow of the ASADA government.
    Russia is knocking out the main instrument of the USA ... ISIS ... and the moderate opposition is weak and worthless and goes to the side of thugs at the earliest opportunity .... there are Kurds whom the US is trying to pull to its side, and the Turks do not like it.

    In general, a good mess was brewed from the various interests of countries and peoples in this region .... and it would not work to break it down without cutting the Gordian knot in the form of ISIS.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 19 October 2015 06: 48 New
      0
      I see that Syria will not be able to reach an agreement, and it is impossible to win there, too many multidirectional forces.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 19 October 2015 06: 54 New
        +7
        "Две коалиции-два фронта":
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 19 October 2015 06: 59 New
          +5
          Туда же,"лучший пилот":
      2. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer 19 October 2015 09: 00 New
        +6
        I see that Syria will not be able to reach an agreement, and it is impossible to win there, too many multidirectional forces.

        If Assad agrees with the Kurds on the future arrangement of Syria where the Kurds
        there will be not some kind of tribe from the outskirts of the country but a real political society living in this country and for this country. That will be both victory and peace in Syria.
        А остальных типа "оппозиционеров" давить как вшей тифозных не смотря на визги яНкесов. Это два ключевых вопроса которые надо решить Ассаду, а мы должны помочь
        him in it.hi
      3. The comment was deleted.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 19 October 2015 07: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      to destroy it without cutting the Gordian knot in the form of ISIS will not work.

      And here ISIS has nothing to do with it, if it were possible to unite ALL Kurds: Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian.
      This is a clear flaw in the work of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: only one thing was required - to obtain Assad’s consent to Kurdish autonomy (it is clear that over time this would lead to the unification of all Kurdistan into a single country), but Syria would not have a constantly smoldering Kurdish hotbed of tension and discontent on its territory (and this has been going on for about 50 years).
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 19 October 2015 07: 35 New
        +3
        smile
        if it were possible to unite ALL Kurds :: Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian.


        Impossible ... it’s like now combining the Slavs of Eastern EUROPE with the Slavs living in RUSSIA .... too many different contradictions.
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 19 October 2015 10: 06 New
          +3
          Overview of the map of hostilities in Syria on 19.10. 2015 year

          News comes from the Syrian war fronts every day

          "гимн военкоров" - это те ЛЮДИ глазами которых многие из нас с мягкого дивана смотрят на все эти события .
          С легкой руки и молитвами Евгения Поддубного эта песня стала неофициальным гимном военных журналистов. Первые строки у нее пророческие: "Под Луганском родился..." . Вторые строки - тоже. И третьи.... Обретение гимна состоялось в сентябре 2013 года, когда мы дружной грядкой сидели в Дамаске и ждали удара "Томагавками" по нашему любимому городу. Особенно доставляют слова про "преждевременно седых", которых не жалко и "будешь делать то что должен и не спрашивать что дальше". В видеоряде съемки из Ливии, Сирии,Египта и конечно - из дорогой сердцу Новороссии.

        2. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 19 October 2015 13: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Impossible ... it’s like now combining the Slavs of Eastern EUROPE with the Slavs living in RUSSIA .... too many different contradictions.


          Competent thought, Dear Alexey. hi
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 19 October 2015 09: 43 New
        +1
        All is hardly possible. But a military alliance with the Syrian Kurds is needed. And there it goes. And Assad needs to be explained that either autonomy is Kurdish, or there will be no Syria. Or maybe the allocation, as the Syrian fragment of Kurdistan, which is not so bad for the region. And there, Iraqi will catch up, and maybe Turkish. The Turks will lose some weight, they will have to forget about the Ottoman illusions.
  2. Sasha75
    Sasha75 19 October 2015 06: 45 New
    11
    And there are still Tula gingerbreads and all sorts of goodies Uralvagonzavod.
  3. avvg
    avvg 19 October 2015 06: 46 New
    13
    Nothing is changing in the world, Moscow is fighting terrorism, and Washington is helping terrorists.
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 19 October 2015 07: 02 New
    +6
    The Kurdish issue will have to be resolved in any case. I have already said that autonomy is autonomy, but everything goes to the point that Syria and Iraq will have to share territories. Turkey is in question, in fact, everything can be limited to autonomy, but this will not remove the issue of confrontation with the Kurds. Kurdistan looms more distinctly. To some extent this will be fair, but who will manage this education is a big question that our leadership should not neglect. And so the situation is already running to the impossibility, continuous surgery instead of therapy.
    Israel, by the way, also gets its own. Blinds do not bring any benefit to anyone, it is more flexible to pursue domestic and foreign policies. Suicide bombers didn’t arise from scratch, because their social composition is very diverse, which says a lot.
    1. T-73
      T-73 19 October 2015 08: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: inkass_98
      The Kurdish issue will have to be resolved in any case.

      I share it entirely. Also wrote in the comments about this. The Kurds now have a chance. The issue of statehood is somewhat secondary so far - in terms of
      Quote: inkass_98
      who will manage this education

      here the fact of the formation of Kurdistan is important. and they certainly said that
      Quote: inkass_98
      the situation is neglected, continuous surgery instead of therapy.

      Well, about Israel, too. A plus
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 19 October 2015 13: 40 New
      +1
      inkas98

      Thus, according to your logic, the newly formed state of Kurdistan is being prepared. The question is, will this state not cause tension in the region? Most likely will be.

      Perhaps such a simplified solution is a swim with the flow.

      Equally, the Americans must be given credit. Reacted accordingly.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 19 October 2015 07: 02 New
    +3
    Террорюги - "этожедети" фашингтона.
    Nursed, paid by the CIA and other NGOs, and therefore the mericatos are baked for them.
  6. slizhov
    slizhov 19 October 2015 07: 10 New
    +6
    Reminds a mise en scene with a theater of one actor:
    - Putin, damn it, I’ve gouged everything, what I, Uncle Sam, created over the years, invested and printed, invested and printed ... And everything ... under the needles !!!
    But I did not stand aside! He took out a portrait of the president of Russia and spat on him, after which he received the deepest satisfaction ... !!!
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 19 October 2015 07: 15 New
    +4
    Quote: The same Lech
    Syria has become an additional front of the Cold War.


    Naturally .... for the US, the main thing is not the fight against ISIS but the overthrow of the ASADA government.
    Russia is knocking out the main instrument of the USA ... ISIS ... and the moderate opposition is weak and worthless and goes to the side of thugs at the earliest opportunity .... there are Kurds whom the US is trying to pull to its side, and the Turks do not like it.

    In general, a good mess was brewed from the various interests of countries and peoples in this region .... and it would not work to break it down without cutting the Gordian knot in the form of ISIS.


    Не сдадим мы Башара . Не пора ли "злобных тушканов"(ТУ-22)применить? Этак с Мурманска ? Эффект потрясающий будет . Маккейн подпрыгнет , бедолага . И помрёт , пыхая злобой .
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 19 October 2015 07: 56 New
      +3
      Не пора ли "злобных тушканов"(ТУ-22)применить?


      What the killer of aircraft carriers will do in SYRIA ... will slip through it in one go and not notice, the goals for this air cruiser in SYRIA are too insignificant.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 19 October 2015 08: 35 New
        +1
        НЕТРАДИЦИОННОЕ применение . Ай . Причёску сделаем амэрике . Хоррошую причёску . А насчёт авиакрейсеров незначительных , шутить изволите? Ну ведь воткнём Гвоздь в палубу несчастным , молотком (Искандером)... Будут сидеть и говорить "Ая-яй!". Не , верещать будут . Опять коварные русские алкаши стерильных амэрикаков обманули ...
    2. T-73
      T-73 19 October 2015 08: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      We will not surrender Bashar

      Never. There is already a matter of principle.
      Quote: iliitch
      Не пора ли "злобных тушканов"(ТУ-22)применить? Этак с Мурманска ?

      what for? Effectively, but not effective. In my opinion, the Baltic States will then finally fall into hysteria. And their 5 NATO aircraft quickly drifted around. But why? They already represent our capabilities. What is needed in Syria is already in place. And God grant strength to the Syrians, Iraqis and Iranians.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 19 October 2015 07: 23 New
    +1
    The Syrian conflict could drag on and become yet another episode of the Cold War, demonstrating not international war on terrorists, but international political competition...Well, this option is not ruled out .. If Russia does not become more active in working with the Kurds, both in Syria and Iraq.
  9. cniza
    cniza 19 October 2015 07: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: parusnik
    [b] bIf Russia does not become more active.



    The main and primary task, if we stop and God forbid we waver ...
  10. Roman 11
    Roman 11 19 October 2015 07: 55 New
    +2
    The fact that the two coalitions will collide is a matter of time. So the whole circus will be long, doubts. The people see that the strangers of their Caliphate came to their land and understands who stood behind them, or rather gave birth to, and also sees how these striped democrats are involved in this whole mess. Fatigue from the war will lead to the rapid cleansing of the country of all aliens and troublemakers.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 19 October 2015 08: 46 New
      0
      Do you think there is such a deep understanding of the problems and internal awareness of your civic duty? Understanding does not extend beyond its own shop selling consumer goods or shawarma and a little house. Lie under everyone with whom you can sell junk to neighbors.
  11. T-73
    T-73 19 October 2015 08: 16 New
    0
    Yeah. Two fronts. Excavators bomb and destroy some (the trenches probably dug terribly severe), and the second, which makes many worse off, and not only ISIS
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 19 October 2015 08: 37 New
    +3
    something very reminiscent of the situation in the capture of Berlin in the Second World War by the forces of the USSR and allies (USA, British and French), it is very curious how and where the line of demarcation of spheres of influence will take place, will it really require new Tigran and Yalta ...
    1. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs 19 October 2015 10: 53 New
      0
      Interesting comparison.
      And about
      new Tigran and Yalta

      You can rest assured that this will not happen. For this is the very multipolar world that the free (well, conditionally free :)) world is striving for and which the United States seeks to avoid.
  13. kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs 19 October 2015 08: 37 New
    +2
    Kurds can reach Raqqa only if the IS puts them there / leaves it herself. The fact that the Kurds with the battles will storm the capital of the Islamic State ... is not believed. Let's see how the IS is controlled from Washington. For good loot, maybe they will give a couple of weeks to sit there Kurds. For a very good loot.
  14. Erg
    Erg 19 October 2015 08: 56 New
    +3
    Скажите мне - кто покупает у "террористов" нефть по 20 баксов? Какова логистика процесса? Не чужды "террористам" и другие сферы бизнеса. У них там тоже много "партнёров". Может, коллеги, займёмся делом? Пора, наконец, начать "зрить в корень"...
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 19 October 2015 10: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Erg
      Скажите мне - кто покупает у "террористов" нефть по 20 баксов?

      ну это то известно, турки по программе "нефть в обмен на оружие и отдых"...
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 19 October 2015 13: 51 New
      0
      Erg

      These are smuggling methods. All are engaged and sundry.

      For example, Turkey during the Second World War, being a neutral country, also smuggled the Germans across the Black Sea.

      In other words, the oil sold is not subject to accounting.
      1. Erg
        Erg 19 October 2015 21: 15 New
        0
        Я отлично понимаю, друзья, что мир перевернулся с ног на голову... Просто мне хотелось бы услышать мнения по этому вопросу. Ведь наша рать рубит гидре лишь хвост. Нет сомнения, что руководству известно "расположение голов". Или ещё не время?.. Или мы ещё не достаточно подготовили плацдарм для главного удара?.. Когда мы сможем прямо, в лицо, сказать врагу ("партнёру"), кем он является на самом деле. Чьи силы он представляет на Земле... soldier
  15. NordUral
    NordUral 19 October 2015 09: 35 New
    +3
    “In Russia we are now only heard, the Americans are fools, and we are supposedly the smartest, but in reality the States seized the initiative from us - we must call things by their proper names. And now it turns out that the Assad troops, with the support of Iran, Hezbollah and our aviation, are attacked mainly by groups that do not belong to the IG, while the Americans have formed an alliance that will directly attack Al-Rakka. Here's a deal. ”
    Bagdasarov is right in that when entering Syria, it was necessary to secure an alliance with the Kurds, and with Assad - guarantees for the Kurds for real autonomy. Arm the Kurds, support and engage in the Syrian army, along with the destruction of ISIS infrastructure from the air, coordinate the interaction (or parallel actions) of the army and the Kurds. Now you have to catch up and fix the error. And screaming cheers is very early. If the States lure the Kurds, it is still unknown which side they will fight on. And this is not the bandits from ISIS.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 19 October 2015 13: 54 New
      0
      Nord ural

      Such a question was most likely worked out before the start of the operation. And it cannot be unexpected.

      We'll see.
  16. Gray 43
    Gray 43 19 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +2
    Turks stigmatize all those who support the Kurds, so they will do their best to prevent the unification of the Kurds and the creation of Kurdistan, although it is already being formed
  17. xin-l
    xin-l 19 October 2015 10: 32 New
    +7
    I am honestly inclined in this aspect to support more of Satanovsky and Kedmi (I love Semyon but sometimes he is too hot) that the one who takes the northern border of Syria with Turkey and blocks the flow of arms from the Turkish side will win. For all that, Raqqah is like who will take Berlin, prestige and no more, because this city has no strategic significance. Racca is a PR quite a loud PR, but serious success is not at all there. for example, in Aleppo and taking control of important communications, roads, etc. And military strategists both ours and Syrian understand this. Another question is whether the Americans will be able to control the Kurds, which I doubt, but whether the Americans are ready to quarrel with Turkey over the Kurds, that’s the question. Well, if both we and the Americans fight together with the Islamic State, this is already good. By the way, thanks to our aviation, the Turks will not bomb Syrian Kurds and I think our contacts there are quite established, maybe not as defiantly as the Americans, at least they won’t write about it to CNN. But the US Air Force is unlikely to support the Kurds in Syria, given the position of Turkey. Then I think the Kurds share operational information on what to bomb. The Kurds of Raqqa will take another moment, so what next? will fight the Syrian army? If the Syrian army by that time approaches the northern borders, then they will involuntarily have to cooperate with each other in countering the IS. And again, it will be necessary to agree on the future of the Kurds with Assad, which, by the way, is in the interests of Russia, because it is already clear that Assad will not leave even if there is a Kurdish factor. Well, they will give the Kurds autonomy. Well, we are all for it. Therefore, it is better not to engage in sharp and hesitant body movements, but to do your job slowly and adamantly.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 19 October 2015 14: 00 New
      0
      Autonomy to give, will lead to other problems. For example, the demarcation of land. National representation in administrative structures. The reformation of nationally oriented commercial structures, simply say, the redistribution of property.

      A said, this close the northern borders. To say B is to hold control.
  18. Roy
    Roy 19 October 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    Assad needs to be helped, but also not to forget about our internal economic and social problems. The living standards of our citizens are quietly, but noticeably worsening.
  19. Victor-M
    Victor-M 19 October 2015 10: 54 New
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    Also, the press writes a lot about the preparation by the Americans of the offensive operation on the so-called capital of the “IG” - the Syrian city of Raqqa. The goal is clear - against the backdrop of Russian successes in Syria and the apparent weakness of the American coalition, Washington also needs a victory. Large preferably.

    Есть один американский фильм с названием наиболее подходящим США, называется он "Бесславные уб - дки". Да простят меня модераторы, но это факт.
  20. xin-l
    xin-l 19 October 2015 11: 04 New
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    Quote: Roy
    Assad needs to be helped, but also not to forget about our internal economic and social problems. The living standards of our citizens are quietly, but noticeably worsening.

    It will be bad for everyone, amid volatility in world markets, deflation in Europe and the USA. The outflow of capital from emerging markets and the slowdown of the PRC economy. Rumor has it that the Fed will not only not raise it, but it will also go negative. In short, another global collapse is approaching. And also our Economic bloc imposes its sanctions against us. We have so far occupied only in the West. Is it possible not to develop a mechanism for providing loans to our producers on good not enslaving conditions?
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 19 October 2015 14: 07 New
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      xin-l

      The Fed’s rate of interest reduction for economic recovery is a positive factor. The availability of free funds in banks will cost the cost of maintenance. Conditionally negative percentage.

      To recover, you need a period of two to 10 years. It is intuitive.
  21. Aleksander
    Aleksander 19 October 2015 11: 41 New
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    They were afraid to arm the Kurds because they did not want to spoil relations with Erdogan. And in vain ....
  22. Leks69Rus
    Leks69Rus 19 October 2015 11: 57 New
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    I still do not understand why the fighting in Syria began to lead on all fronts. I mean exactly the government army? and Latakia and Holmes and Damascus. Assad has so much strength that enough for everyone? I doubt, and our aviation there is not much to conduct battles throughout the depths of the country. Actually, the situation was such before the intervention of Russia, that the Americans did not really fight the yig, they waited for them to besiege Damascus and take it now, but after that their hands would be completely untied from the United States. I don’t want to bomb. Only after the fall of Damascus and, preferably, the death of Bashar al-Assad, had he fled, did the Americans start fighting IS. But with the advent of Russia and most importantly with criticism of America’s actions by Putin, the situation has changed. The igil really became a hindrance, because it is difficult to make out where the igil is not the igil, and as long as it exists with the center in the crayfish it will be an obstacle. So now whoever destroys Isil the first and will sing praises, he will win maximum points on the world stage. So it would be logical to concentrate our colony with Iran and Assad specifically on Raqqa and igil. And there would be many pluses. Whether the amerkoses are lying continued to supply Isil something seriously out of armament. Russia could have been able to fight against this incandescence with the delivery of a more modern rocket-assad and Iran, for example, t72b3, at least. And a quick victory in this race would wipe the US nose and points on the world stage would be colossal. After that, the authority of the United States would suffer greatly and it would be much easier to act against other groups, and most importantly, it would be easier to persuade them to a peace treaty. BUT instead, battles in all directions are being spread now, and if the Americans succeed in taking the crayfish for the world community, it will be obvious that the Russians were fighting the peaceful opposition and not the igles. Moreover, it will be easier for the Americans to defeat the igil, I am sure that in addition to the 10 thousand ardent supporters of the igil, the rest will simply massively switch to the pro-American coalition in exchange for good conditions and money, etc. Just amerikosy all buy and all.
    1. T-73
      T-73 19 October 2015 12: 22 New
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      Quote: Leks69Rus
      why the fighting in Syria began to wage on all fronts

      Yes, there is one front, everything is compact, not Russia, after all. The blows went to the directions, which is logical. Even if there are 150 thousand of them (IS), not in one place, the territory was seized and someone needs to be controlled, is there another sense? And Raqqa ... will reach slowly. As the capital of the IG, there is not much sense in it. They will run across and still settle down. And she is not without attention. Hang over her, look. These are common truths.
      Quote: Leks69Rus
      To combat this influx, put a more modern one for Asad and Iran, for example, T72b3, at least

      we proceed from the principle of reasonable sufficiency. The Russian Federation is not a charitable organization. What they buy, they will receive it. We have already invested.
      1. Leks69Rus
        Leks69Rus 19 October 2015 13: 28 New
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        Well, if all Russia compare 90% of the countries will be small. Yes, not Russia, but not Chechnya, and not Georgia. Bashar al-Assad does not have the strength to wage a successful war on all fronts at once. Iran can’t act openly, because Iran is Shiite, and the opposition is Sunni, and the terrorists will have a powerful trump card in their hand that Assad Shiite has committed genocide against the Sunnis. But if there was an operation exclusively against the core of the igles, that no one could say that this was an opposition and not the igil, then Iran would be able to send the expeditionary forces openly, with all the equipment and uniforms. And with the help of the Russian air force, they could inflict a powerful blow on the root of the isils.
  23. alicante11
    alicante11 19 October 2015 11: 58 New
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    Well, my question is, how could Russia supply the Kurds with enough weapons? We have no access to Kurdish-controlled territories. They can enter the Americans across the Turkish border. So they use it. Objectively, the process of dividing Syria between the Asadites and the Kurds can now be launched. Who will manage to capture more territory.
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 19 October 2015 22: 04 New
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      More recently, the video looked about how Syrian soldiers get to the town of Deir ez Zor. Very I will say an interesting observation. They first fly from Damascus to a town that is under the control of the Kurds almost on the border with Turkey and from there already on a turntable to Deir Ez Zora. That is, the Kurds accept 76 silts from Damascus on their territory without problems. Duck and what prevents the Kurds from delivering anything to Damascus ...
  24. Victor-M
    Victor-M 19 October 2015 12: 24 New
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    Also, the press writes a lot about the preparation by the Americans of the offensive operation on the so-called capital of the “IG” - the Syrian city of Raqqa. The goal is clear - against the backdrop of Russian successes in Syria and the apparent weakness of the American coalition, Washington also needs a victory. Large preferably.

    Washington has officially recognized terrorists as a state, and has secured the capital for them, and for some reason in Syria, and not in the states. What kind of attack can we talk about, Washington just needs to give ISIS instructions so that they leave the city of Raqqa that they occupy, after all, bombing what they created over the course of several years is more expensive for themselves, and then if you do not need to spend money again to train terrorists. You understand the crisis. laughing
    1. Leks69Rus
      Leks69Rus 19 October 2015 13: 31 New
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      and everything will be so, the core of the Igil fanatics is 30 thousand from the strength, everything else is rabble, which is easy to buy. Damn it really is not clear that the war does not change. Watch the game of thrones series at least, the geopolitics of reality is not much different from that described in the book.
  25. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 19 October 2015 13: 02 New
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    I liked the article, not everything is indisputable, but competently and popularly, thanks to the author. hi
  26. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 19 October 2015 13: 11 New
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    Saudi TV channel "Al Arabiya" notes that the new union is being created under the leadership of the United States. The newspaper "Vzglyad" lists the colorful composition of the new association. Firstly, these are the Kurds living in the north of the country and part of the rebel groups "Self-Defense Forces" (YPG) and "Women's Defense Forces" (YPJ). Both units are subordinate to the Democratic Union, a party led by Saleh Muslim. Secondly, these are the fighters of the Burkan al-Furat: the Kurdish troops and the Raqqi Revolutionary Brigade. Thirdly, the Assyrian Military Council is participating in the new alliance. Fourth, several other opposition groups joined the ranks of the association.


    The somewhat colorful composition of the new coalition raises some doubts about its viability, even with the availability of financial and technical support from the United States. The participants have quite serious disagreements, both religious and geopolitical. But to promise early, let's look at the actions of ours and the USA in the future. hi
  27. Alexy
    Alexy 19 October 2015 13: 16 New
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    I would not want a clash of coalitions. It already smacks of a big war. I hope the mind is enough not to succumb to provocations.
  28. xin-l
    xin-l 19 October 2015 14: 10 New
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    Х
    Quote: Leks69Rus
    I still do not understand why the fighting in Syria began to lead on all fronts. I mean exactly the government army? and Latakia and Holmes and Damascus. Assad has so much strength that enough for everyone? I doubt, and our aviation there is not much to conduct battles throughout the depths of the country. ... So now whoever destroys Isil the first one and will sing praises, he will win maximum points on the world stage. So it would be logical to concentrate our colony with Iran and Assad specifically on Raqqa and igil. And there would be many pluses. Whether the amerkoses are lying continued to supply Isil something seriously out of armament. Just amerikosy all buy and all.

    I don’t agree, the main battles are fought just in the North to take control of the border with Turkey of the main hub for the transfer of weapons and terrorists. What Damascus is fighting is good, but this is not the main direction, and frankly it is not a direction at all. In the south, our aviation is practically not operational. There are more Syrian Air Force annealed. Assad has enough strength. 150.000 army plus 80.000 militias. It’s another matter before that they fought without a system, extended flanks, the air force’s communications are chaotic. They will release one of the bandits and immediately attack in the other direction. And in general, sometimes it was like a positional war, everyone is sitting in protected bunkers and shooting at each other, without an offensive component. I’m sorry since the 2nd World War that if you don’t have the strength you need to focus on one direction otherwise it will be like On the Crimean and Kharkov directions in 1942, when Stalin, contrary to Zhukov, decided to advance along the entire front. Well, disgusting, he was the commander in chief, what do you say. Not so here.
    Racca is not a key node. I would say the Americans have a bad alignment in Syria, there are 2 decisions and both are bad, leaving Syria is very bad, supporting the Kurds in the attack on Raqqa, and considering when, six months ago, when the Kurds were attacking Raqqa, the bandits hit them from the territory Turkey in the Kobani region, Turkey then very much substituted. And you think she will bear it this time? Oh, I don’t think so. This will spoil the relations of Amers with the Turks to such an extent that it will even be difficult to predict. The EU does not want to quarrel with Turkey because of migrants, the United States does not want to destabilize the EU at all. They are now wagging, whether they are delivering weapons to the opposition, or to the Kurds. And just this second one is a bad decision, on the one hand you save your face on the other, you quarrel strongly with the Turks. and you don’t know which of these decisions is worse. Here and choose. On ka places it is zugzwang. Choose gentlemen Americans.
    However, this situation reminds me of Ukraine, when we faced the choice of 2 bad strategists according to Ishchenko - very bad, surrender Ukraine and put up with the situation, bad - send troops, and finally made an intermediate decision, though also not the best, these are the DPR and LPR and Unfortunately, civilian casualties.
    In general, now we are doing the same with the Americans. You can say Ukraine a little revenge. This is certainly not a mate, but certainly a check. IMHO.
    1. Leks69Rus
      Leks69Rus 19 October 2015 17: 46 New
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      Racca is not a key center, I agree, but it's prestige! it is a victory in the information war. Yes, the border with Turkey is the key. Well, the more difficult the task is at times, weapons and supplies flow to the province of Idlib border with Turkey, if the militants hide in Turkey and go into battle again. I really am silent that if the fighting comes to the border there will be all sorts of provocations if at all before the war comes with Turkey. But to take the crayfish in my opinion is easier, there the supply is much worse, I think. And if someone will lie now on the supply of needles, given the possibilities of intelligence of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
    2. Awaz
      Awaz 19 October 2015 22: 15 New
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      Right now they will make Racca a super duper stronghold that the United States will take and, as it were, after this, Isil will generally quiet down for a while, resting under the guise of the United States. Very reminiscent of something, yes? The completion of World War II ... All the forces of Isil will be thrown into the Assad army and the United States with the same Kurds will grab a good piece of Syria without any problems, probably with oil fields and will then bargain again. With the Turks of the United States agree. They Kurds can also use blindly as cannon fodder and then throw. TURKS will go for it easily.
      Here only one thing is necessary - not to allow the United States to win over the Kurds. By any means, either will be very not good. That is, Russia and Syria will actually cause damage to ordinary bandits that ISIS but the United States will take advantage of the fact that they have influence on ISIS and make themselves the main winners. The ISIS will quickly turn into colors comfortable for Washington and will abruptly become the democratic forces fighting against Assad.
      In addition to the military component, propaganda from the TV plays a huge role. The United States has more power to pressure and manipulate public opinion. In general, if Assad’s business is going on, then the option for the ISIS to surrender cancer and oil-bearing areas to the Americans is insanely maximum ... And I don’t know what they think in the Kremlin, but I hope everyone understands if I understand sitting here at the TV set
  29. iouris
    iouris 19 October 2015 14: 28 New
    +1
    ИГИЛ - успешный бизнес проект Запада по продаже "ничейной нефти" по заниженной цене. Цена занижена, поскольку и так называемого государства нет социальных обязательств кроме отрезания голов. Поэтому само собой разумеется, что силы, подконтрольные США, должны взять под контроль Запад трубу. В результате может сложиться ситуация, когда Асад сможет сохранить режим и контролировать население и часть территории, а ИГИЛ превратиться в "оппозицию", которая при поддержке Запад будет контролировать трубу, снижая цены на нефть и газ для ЕС за счёт ограбления иракского и сирийского народов.
  30. Yak28
    Yak28 19 October 2015 18: 33 New
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    In connection with the outdated equipment that Assad’s army has and the insufficient number of aircraft in Russia, you should not hope for speedy success. And the Americans, who also fly over Syria (and illegally), supply weapons and intelligence to the bandits, clearly want to prolong the conflict so that Russia gets stuck in Syria for a long time. The United States will do everything to prevent the militants from clearing Syria
    1. serg2108
      serg2108 20 October 2015 00: 36 New
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      so everyone understands this, most likely there is also plan number 2 for this case, oh no wonder comrade Putin is working with Iran wink
  31. Bob
    Bob 19 October 2015 19: 14 New
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    Quote: Yak28
    And the Americans, who also fly over Syria (and illegally), supply weapons and intelligence to the bandits, clearly want to prolong the conflict so that Russia gets stuck in Syria for a long time.

    Вот именно поэтому в этой войне мы еще увидим поворотные моменты. И ждать долго не придется, я полагаю. Ноябрь-Февраль. Поскольку с февраля в период песчаных бурь уже менее вероятно. Ну не зря же иранцы подтягиваются, и турки с саудитами "волнуются" по поводу и без повода, чувствуют что инвестиции в сирийскую войну могут и прогореть.
  32. Bamse
    Bamse 19 October 2015 21: 40 New
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    Putin invited Obama to bomb ISIS together. They fly over a terrorist base on a bomb, Putin at the helm:
    - It seems that the terrorists justified ***, we will water them in the toilet.
    -No, know, Mr. Putin, it’s impossible to bombard these - they are justifiably justified!
  33. Awaz
    Awaz 19 October 2015 22: 22 New
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    I’ve looked at the location of all the forces and right now, in the mind of my sofa, the forces of Assad and the Kurds, I need to master the M4 highway between Allepo and the Karakozak bridge. Block off to hell with the possibility of delivering oil to Turkey and delivering weapons back. After this, Raqqa will cease to be a strategic point of some importance. Idlib province can also stop terrorizing. After the cessation of oil supplies, the Turks will most likely cease to contain bandits in Idlib. Although not immediately and not necessarily, it will seriously affect the situation if you capture a section of this route
    1. serg2108
      serg2108 20 October 2015 00: 34 New
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      Yes, so soon it will be yes
  34. mimohodom
    mimohodom 19 October 2015 22: 23 New
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    Americans with the British and during the Second World War behaved meanly. On the one hand, the USSR helped; on the other, Hitler's Germany.
    1. serg2108
      serg2108 20 October 2015 00: 33 New
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      they all the time, throughout their history, live like ours and yours am