What does the Syrian campaign lead to, or what will happen after ISIS?

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Launch of 26 strategic variants of the Caliber-NK cruise missile (3M14), developed on the basis of the well-known Soviet missile defense system 3M10 Granat, at 11 ISIS military infrastructure facilities from the sides of the Caspian missile ships flotilla It became a very sudden and unpleasant reality for Washington and the leaderships of leading Western European states, which before that were real "monopolists" in using high-precision air and ground-based missile weapons to solve their military and political interests, which in the XNUMXst century was well confirmed by the example of Libya. From that moment, Russia forced the West to reckon with its geopolitical interests in this most important region of the World, where we are witnessing a real “explosive cocktail” of religious differences, mingling with the geostrategic and economic ambitions of leading regional and world superpowers.

A salvo launch of the 3М14 "Caliber-NK" strategic cruise missiles in the "ship-to-land" version from one of the sentry missile ships of 11661 Avenue Dagestan / Tatarstan (class "Cheetah") belonging to the Caspian Flotilla. The missile with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead can achieve ground targets at a distance of 1500 km from the ship’s launcher, which makes the flotilla a truly strategic element of the Russian Navy in the South. This moment became a significant event in the Russian fleet, because earlier the maximum that the World saw was regular “boring” reports and reports on the conduct of naval exercises; now everything has changed dramatically: even a small Caspian naval strike force plays an operational-strategic role in solving regional-scale combat missions. Photos I.ytimg.com


After the mixed air wing of the Russian airborne forces was transferred to the Hmeimim Syrian airbase, the Israeli Air Force attacks on government forces of Bashar al-Assad fell sharply, which was a good guarantee of maintaining the combat potential of the Syrian army even in the most adverse circumstances. The presence in the wing of super-maneuverable multi-purpose fighters Su-30SM and tactical fighter-bombers Su-34, which today have a full range of capabilities to gain air supremacy (in addition to the ability to destroy sea, ground targets and track the enemy’s submarine fleet in the PLO system), not only allows you to create a deterrent factor for the coalition air force, but it also really holds back Aviation NATO and Israel from unlawful operations against the army of Bashar al-Assad. 10 multifunctional tactical fighters (4 Su-30SM and 6 Su-34) are the most advanced aerial combat vehicles in the region, the avionics of which include multi-mode airborne radars with PFAR N011M Bars and Sh-141 Predator. Not so many pro-American states possess such powerful radar systems of fighters in the Middle East; the only exception is the 5th generation American fighter squadron F-22A deployed at the Al-Dafra Air Force Base.

The Su-34 tactical multipurpose fighter-bomber is the most advanced combat vehicle in its class in the World. This aircraft is currently the "strategic asset" of tactical aviation in Russia, the number of series of this aircraft can exceed the series of the famous "Raptor" and reach 200 units. These machines were not sent randomly to Syria: the combination of capabilities for solving EW problems, air-to-ground, air-to-air, and even anti-submarine operations confirm its suitability to all the challenges of the modern network-centric warfare. Photo Breakingisraelnews.com


As we can see, the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces grouping on the most dangerous air routes of the Syrian theater of operations are very well coordinated and effective. In the incident with the Turkish F-16C, the Su-30CM showed itself perfectly well, which carried out the warning “seizure for accurate auto tracking” of two Turkish fighters at once, using the multi-channel radar to prevent a possible invasion of Syrian airspace; previously, such violations were a routine procedure for Turkish aviation.

But it is also absolutely logical that our VKS grouping is only an effective tool for the destruction of IS, local restraint of “ticketing” and provocations by the NATO DFID, as well as for the long-term protection of the naval base in Tartus with the C-300 and Pantsir -С1 », providing territorial and positional air defense of the western part of Syria. There is no full component of air supremacy to win Syria’s sky from NATO in the event of an exacerbation of the situation in the SAR: 4 Su-30СМ and 6 Su-34 will not be able to withstand hundreds of coalition fighters if the United States and Turkey once or decide to provide direct support to the Syrian opposition. The degree of such a scenario is very high.

The primary suppression of the Syrian opposition becomes the priority of destroying ISIS.

And to deny this in no way impossible. Now there is a phased and well-planned modernization of the opposition forces of Syria with modern models of small arms and anti-tank weapons from Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United States. At a time when our air forces and ships of the Caspian Flotilla are fully immersed in the tasks of undermining the ISIS’s combat capability, US military transport aircraft C-17 regularly drop military supplies for the Syrian opposition, including millions of arsenals of cartridges for M-16 rifles and AK assault rifles -47, TOW-2 anti-tank missile systems and the BGM-71F ATGM to them, as well as many versions of MANPADS, from Stinger to Red Eye, etc. At the same time, the United States completely abandoned the complex interaction with the Russian Federation on the conduct of an air combat operation against the IS. The United States, together with Qatar, used the Islamic State as an excellent moderately controlled military tool to overthrow the Assad regime, but after the arrival of the Russian Air Force, the IG project began to turn into a withering project and all bets in Washington are now being made exclusively on the opposition.

The development of the situation after the defeat of ISIL will be the most unpredictable stage of the Syrian conflict, to which we must be ready now.

What will be the theater of military operations in Syria after the defeat of the IG by the Russian Air Force and the government forces of the UAR? It depends solely on the wisdom of the actions of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia already these days. If all the work of the Russian Aerospace Forces will be aimed only at suppressing the IG, the opposition units will be armed to the teeth with American weapons and tactical electronics within the next few months. After more or less complete stripping of ISIS, the only strong rebellious fighting force in Syria will remain the 30-thousand-strong opposition-terrorist militant formation of the “Front al-Nusra”, which now controls around 1 / 7 in Syria, and it will be much more difficult to resist rather than LIH. At the same time, the most intense and dangerous military-political stage in the Middle East will begin, for it is “Jabhat-en-Nusra” that is the last “salvatory stick” of Western strategic interests in the Middle East, which Russia will have to “break” without fail. we risk losing not only the friendly Syrian regime in Syria, but also the 720 STEP in Tartus and other strategic facilities of the Russian army in the Mediterranean. Given the importance of “Jabhat-en-Nusra” for the West, it becomes clear that the conflict could later escalate into a direct military confrontation with the participation of the most aggressive United States, Great Britain, and some states in Asia Minor, which are weakly dependent on Russian energy.

Strengthening aviation gaining air superiority and the Russian Navy off the Syrian coast is a “recipe” for the long-term preservation of Syrian statehood until the full restoration of the national armed forces. What equipment can appear on the Syrian theater?

As stated at the beginning of the article, the current composition of the Russian VKS in Syria is absolutely not ready to act against the combined NATO air forces if Washington decides to resort to direct support from the Syrian opposition when it is left alone against the Russian air forces and the Syrian armed forces. Such a course of events may begin in the coming 6 months - a year immediately after the defeat of the IG.

It is not by chance that right now we are witnessing the most large-scale military exercises of the NATO “Trident Juncture-2015” NATO armed forces, in which 30 thousand NATO soldiers and military equipment of most of the armed forces will be involved. One of the stages of the naval exercises is held off the coast of Italy, just 1500 km from the location of the Russian Navy CUG, covering the Syrian coast, is a no less significant fact that makes you think about strengthening the Russian presence in Syria. Russia must be fully prepared for direct NATO aggression, losing leverage in the Middle East and Central Asia. The existing weaknesses of the Russian military contingent in Syria and the surrounding area should be strengthened promptly and comprehensively.

As mentioned at the beginning of the article, ten Su-30CM and Su-34 tactical fighters with effective air combat capabilities are absolutely not enough to gain air superiority and defend the Russian military contingent in Syria even on the distant approaches to strategic facilities in the west of the state if NATO comes out from a position of strength. The number of Su-30CM should be increased not less than to 30 - 40 aircraft, and this is not the limit of what is needed.

No one can rule out that the United States Air Force will decide on the transfer to Arabian and Turkish air bases of a fully equipped aviation regiment-two of 24 - 48 low-profile F-22A “Raptor” fighters, and the reinforced American AUG 6 will not be sent to US Navy fleet, which can include up to two Nimitz-class aircraft carriers with 150-160 deck-mounted F / A-18E / F “Super Hornet” fighter aircraft, which have AN / APG airborne radars that are quite comparable with our Bars -79, based on design ie high-energy active phased array. With the upgraded air-to-air missiles of the AIM-120C-7 / 8 (flight range from 130 to 170 km), the Hornets will overwhelmingly outnumber our fighters, which makes us think about the need to transfer to Syria such machines as the Su-35С .

Refueling the US Navy multi-purpose deck fighter F / A-18E / F "Super Hornet", on the basis of which the REP F / A-18G "Growler" was also developed. "Super Hornet" is the main carrier strike fighter of the US Navy, despite the low maximum flight speed limited 1,8M, the plane confidently leads both long-range and short-range air combat, thanks to powerful 8 on-board radar with AFAR AN / APG-79, having 8 target channels and range 170 km. High maneuverability is achieved by large aerodynamic influxes at the root of the wing, developed full-height rudders and a high specific afterburner thrust per mid-section (2890 kgf / m2). In long-range combat "Super Hornet" is a serious opponent even for Su-30SM Photo Air-attack.com


Su-35S is the most advanced multi-purpose fighter of the transitional generation “4 ++” of the Russian Air Force today. And only this aircraft can guarantee confidently equal air confrontation with promising low-profile F-22A fighters, as well as effective long-range air combat with Western European, Turkish and Arabian fighters "Typhoon", "Rafale", F-15S and F-16C Block 52 + / XNX even with a significant quantitative advantage. The installed on-board radar with the PFAR Н60 "Irbis-E" is capable of controlling the airspace within 035 radius of km by typical air targets and within 400-200 radius of km for unobtrusive targets of the type "F-250A" or the Tomahawk cruise missile (EG within NNXX). m22). The radar "Irbis-E" has 0,1 target channels, so that one "Drying" can begin an air battle immediately with the enemy's 2 fighters at a distance inaccessible for effective counter attack. Unification with the Khibiny electronic warfare complex further complicates the conduct of combat with Su-8C. The emergence of a fighter regiment from 8 of these aircraft at the air base in Latakia parries most of the likely aggressive plans of the West in relation to the Russian presence in the SAR. The problem of the absence of DRLO A-35U aircraft in the region will also be solved automatically. The C-36-50 tactical data transmission complex, installed on the Su-107C, will fully provide coverage of the far-air situation for the friendly Su-1CM and Su-35 air squadrons, whose radar does not have such capabilities. Modern Russian air forces are already operating in accordance with the canons of the network-centric war, which causes great fear among the NATO command.

The second, no less important issue than aviation, the conquest of domination and air defense, is the relatively low anti-submarine defense (PLO) of the Russian Navy near the Syrian coast. It is worth noting that the Americans have always paid the most important attention to anti-submarine defense, and this is still happening. On October 9, the P-3C “Orion” anti-submarine patrol aircraft arrived at the Constanta airbase in Romania to conduct joint PLO exercises in conjunction with the naval forces of Romania, Ukraine, Turkey and the US Porter, which is visiting the port of Odessa.
The DDG-78 “Porter” of the Arleigh Burk class is equipped with the Aegis combat information and control system, the main “trump card” of which is not only the ADV-PRO AUG, but also the integration of the most modern and powerful sonar complex of the American fleet AN / SQQ- 89 (V) 6. Thanks to such synchronization, the Aegis-American AUG ships can be informationally fully synchronized on the Link-16 local network with other connection ships and PLO P-3C Orion planes. This system linking of “units” of the American fleet allows to achieve the most effective anti-submarine capabilities, unlike our system “Requirement-M”, which, with excellent detection ranges of underwater targets, has a limited number of “subscribers”, which does not allow to timely and accurately inform each unit of the fleet about possible approach of enemy missile submarines. Almost all ships of the US Navy classes EM / RR, including those approaching Syria (6 fleet), are equipped with Aegis systems of various modifications. This somewhat complicates the possibilities of operating our multipurpose Varshavyanka and Lada class diesel-electric submarines in the Eastern Mediterranean.

But in our anti-submarine defense there are also parties that are absolutely not worked out in the US Navy and the fleets of the NATO countries; the air base for this is already in Latakia and is attacking ISIS. You can lay down legends about the versatility of the Su-34 tactical fighter-bomber: it is an excellent machine for EW theater of operations, a very maneuverable fighter, a high-precision bomber, and a magnificent anti-ship aviation complex. But few people realize that this aircraft, which has system-assisted BREO, can conduct joint anti-submarine operations with the Il-38Н anti-submarine patrol aircraft, where the latter will act as a command post for command and control.

The use of multipurpose nuclear submarines for delivering massive missile strikes at enemy targets is a favorite tactic of NATO's naval forces, which was confirmed during Operation Odyssey. Dawn "in Libya, when the British submarine" Trafalgar "struck the TCR" Tomahawk "at the unprepared and outdated Libyan air defense. Perform NATO submarines and reconnaissance missions to identify the most weakened underwater approaches to the enemy. Information about the organization of an effective PLO of the Russian Navy in Syria has not been received, which makes one seriously think about the security of our fleet in the conditions of continued militarization of the region and increasing tensions.

The X-141 Predator radar of the Su-34 fighter-bomber is also based on PFAR and allows detecting an F-15C aerial target at a distance of 140-150 km, large naval targets of the destroyer / cruiser type - over 150 km. The high resolution of the PFAR aperture also makes it possible to detect small-sized surface objects of the “periscope” type of submarines or the low-profile promising EM "Zumwalt"


But it so happened that part of the task has already been completed, Su-34 avionics, including RLK, were developed by Leninets “HC” OJSC, the same company also developed the perspective Objective-P-38 observation complex for the Il-38H aircraft. The company has provided the “Drying” with good abilities to combat the underwater enemy. Su-34 can be the carrier of 72 radio-acoustic buoys, which can be quickly distributed to the most suspicious areas of the marine theater. In aircraft CMS, there is a complex for collecting tactical information about the underwater environment over an encrypted radio channel, so that information can be quickly obtained regarding the location of the underwater enemy; This information can be promptly transmitted to the IL-38Н board via a similar radio channel, and then directly to the naval headquarters. For reliable control of a small coastline of the Syrian Arab Republic, only one IL-38Н and a Su-34 link equipped with an 288 RSL will suffice: no American or British submarine will break through such an underwater barrier, while the Su-34 can arrive 3,5 times faster to the dump zone of the RSL, than his fellow turboprop. Su-34 is the only 2М-aching aircraft in the World, which harmoniously combines the shock, fighter and anti-submarine abilities embodied by the Leninets HC. The aircraft has a tailpiece detector of magnetic anomalies, which is quite typical for marine patrol cars, which is also “exotic” in the field of conventional front-line aviation.

With regards to the surface component of the Russian Navy off the coast of Syria, we can say that its power is currently moderate (or even insufficient), at least its composition is currently much weaker than the one we saw at the time of the defense of the Syrian coast from a possible strike by NATO naval forces in 2013 year. As part of the grouping, the main share is made up of large landing ships and the entire 4 percussion ship: 2 TFR of 1135 / 35М ("Ladny" and "Pytlivy") and BOD. 61 "Sharp"; The flagship of the group is the GRKr pr. 1164.5 "Moscow".

Now self-sufficiency and individual defensive abilities of this CCG are not very high, since the Moskva missile cruiser, even in the presence of the C-300F Fort shipboard air defense missile system, is not able to survive for a long time under attacks from NATO anti-ship and anti-radar missiles, since their ammunition is Total 64 ZUR 5В55РМ in 8х8 revolver PU B-204А, and 6 target channels "Fort" will not reflect the simultaneous impact of 35-40 "Harpoons" or 30 AGM-88 "HARM". To cover the dead zone in the TUG, only the Osa-Maxnumx CPCR is installed on some BDK and all 2 warships of the main classes. The complexes have a limitation in 4-500 m / s at the maximum speed of the targeted target, are single-channel and cannot boast of excessive precision of the guidance radar, the minimum height of the targets hit, although brought to 700 km, is the “star raid” of the OCR PCR AGM-10 do not repel, so the conclusion is only one: the Mediterranean Navy of the Russian Navy should be reinforced with no less than a few corvettes of the 84 Alert avenue with the Poliment-Redut air defense system and one TARKr Ave 20385 the Peter the Great. The current composition, in the light of the threat assessment, is very weak.

Strictly following its geopolitical benefits, the US Air Force, instead of speeding up its unification with the Russian Aerospace Forces to fight the main world evil (terrorism), is quietly “dumped” at airbases friendly to Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, in respite dropping containers of ammunition and weapons from the Syrian opposition in the face Front en-Nusra "from the sides of the military-transport C-17" Globmaster III "Photo by Davmembersportal.org


The situation continues to evolve according to a completely predictable scenario: all attention is to fight against LIH, the opposition is “sitting out” and quickly arming itself with “hands” and money from the West. And if the simultaneous destruction of the “moderates” is stalled, the consequences of this will be indescribable.
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  1. +11
    20 October 2015 06: 54
    Good, detailed article. To the author +.
    And only one doctor - time, will be able to show the results of ALL ongoing surgery in Syria.
    1. +40
      20 October 2015 08: 43
      Quote: aszzz888
      show the results of the whole operation

      In article 3 of the message:
      1. Not enough airplanes.
      2. Not enough ships.
      3. Give me the money.
      You can agree with all three, but then it will be necessary to cut the salaries of officials by half, deputies and ministers by three times, income tax above 100 tyr / month. increase to 20% and income of 300 tyr / month. tax 30% (hereinafter, evenly in a hundred steps), but the funds going into investments are exempt from tax.
      Of course, halve the number of officials and deputies.
      1. +2
        20 October 2015 09: 55
        Let the world come to begin with, and there it will be seen. They will decide where to go.
      2. 0
        20 October 2015 11: 33
        hydrox In this situation, mobilization must be announced and then there will be no such salaries, everything will work to solve this problem, since there can be no doubt that there will be blows from other sides, otherwise you can not start if you count how much should get we will be in big trouble.
      3. +4
        20 October 2015 12: 12
        .... Of course, halve the number of officials and deputies ....

        .... Oh-oh-oh !!!!! ..... Dreams ... Dreams ... lol
  2. -38
    20 October 2015 06: 58
    After the transfer of the mixed strike wing of the Russian Aerospace Forces to the Syrian airbase Khmeimim, the incidence of Israeli air strikes on the government forces of Bashar al-Assad sharply decreased, which became a good guarantor of the preservation of the combat potential of the Syrian army even in the most unfavorable scenario.

    No connection. Every attack on Israel by Syria will receive a response. The number of attacks has decreased and the number of responses has decreased accordingly.
    1. +5
      20 October 2015 07: 53
      Oleg! hi It's been a long time since you have not spoiled people with beautiful pictures with a "strategypage"!
      1. -3
        20 October 2015 07: 58
        I gave it up. I limited myself to 500 articles including "pictures", translations and original articles. hi
    2. +15
      20 October 2015 08: 31
      Quote: professor
      Every attack on Israel by Syria will receive a response.

      From the side of Syria, say?
      Then why, after the appearance of the Russian Aerospace Forces group, the Israelis tried to "visit" Syria only 2 times and both times fell into our sights. Does this mean that Syria has got loose and is bombing Israel with impunity? Please note: Your planes were "captured" even before they even saw ours.
      So you don’t have to make black and pass for black :: Syria NEVER attacked Israel and is not going to do it, but if Israel does not value the life of its pilots, welcome suicide bombers into the sky of Syria!
      1. -32
        20 October 2015 08: 40
        Quote: hydrox
        From the side of Syria, say?

        It is from the side of Syria. The same policies are being applied to Lebanon and Gaza. Jordan and Egypt are a completely different story. We have peace with them.

        Quote: hydrox
        Then why, after the appearance of the Russian Aerospace Forces group, the Israelis tried to "visit" Syria only 2 times and both times fell into our sights.

        Do not fantasize. Return fire is underway and will continue to be conducted despite the presence of Russian aviation in Latakia. Moreover, by creating a coordination group, Russia has in fact recognized Israel’s right to fly in Syrian airspace.

        Quote: hydrox
        Please note: Your planes were "captured" even before they even saw ours.

        I do not discuss nonsense.


        Quote: hydrox
        So you don’t have to make black and pass for black :: Syria NEVER attacked Israel and is not going to do it, but if Israel does not value the life of its pilots, welcome suicide bombers into the sky of Syria!

        I do not feed the trolls, but only sometimes feed. wassat
        1. +12
          20 October 2015 15: 08
          Interestingly invented in Israel. Even if an ISIS mine flies, it is a signal to Israel that they feel bad and need to bomb Syrian troops. That is, Assad is responsible for everything that the friends of Israel do. But Netanyahu does not want to be equally responsible for everything that is happening in Israel. The whole world may be to blame, except for the Jews of Israel. People beloved by God ?!
          1. -11
            20 October 2015 15: 30
            Quote: zenion
            Interestingly invented in Israel. Even if an ISIS mine flies, it is a signal to Israel that they feel bad and need to bomb Syrian troops.

            If a mine flies from the IS, then on the head will receive the IG.
            Quote: zenion
            People beloved by God ?!

            Forward this question to the creator wink
          2. -1
            20 October 2015 16: 05
            Quote: zenion
            Interestingly invented in Israel

            "Mistaaravi", more precisely "Mistaivri".
    3. +3
      20 October 2015 11: 47
      It's just that the Armed Forces and the leaders of Israel realized that effective aid had come and provided Russia to protect "its" interests. The distance from ISIS to Russia and Israel can be viewed on the map.
      Benjamin Netanyahu arrived on the eve of the operation in Syria and, apparently, gave Russia carte blanche, or maybe he asked for help. )
      ISIS loves Israel terribly, so the next goal after Syria is who it is!
      And here we are with our help.
      This is a rather strange war on the part of Russia.
      Propaganda (Russia is cool), advertising (Russian weapons are super), economic (raising prices for energy resources - oil, loading the economy with military orders), political (a small "victorious war" allows to unite the state, elite, people), and only then the war against ISIS.
      Well, assistance to the state at the borders of which the Islamists are fighting. By the way, in Israel itself, there is also a war of extermination. Knives are trying to solve problems.
      Europe can expect this too.
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 12: 50
        Watch how cons fly for the truth! Know the way it is! )))
    4. +3
      20 October 2015 12: 10
      No connection. Every attack on Israel by Syria will receive a response. The number of attacks has decreased and the number of responses has decreased accordingly.


      Yes, figs would. Responses are coming, but artillery, not air. So the "bench press" for the selected pilots.
      1. -9
        20 October 2015 12: 46
        Quote: alicante11
        Yes, figs would. Responses are coming, but artillery, not air. So the "bench press" for the selected pilots.

        Right Previously, to bomb the battery 5 km from the border, distant bombers raised it, but now they are scared, have their sight and began to use artillery. laughing
        1. +2
          20 October 2015 13: 18
          Right Previously, to bomb the battery at 5 km from the border, distant bombers raised it, but now they are scared, have their sight and began to use artillery. laughing


          Well, you see, it’s already dangerous to "shoot" from Lebanon.
        2. +3
          20 October 2015 15: 25
          Well, it’s right that they decided not to take risks. Image is more expensive :)
          1. +2
            20 October 2015 17: 11
            Quote: shaman2001
            Well, it’s right that they decided not to take risks. Image is more expensive :)

            Do not risk what? The sky of Syria is shared with Russia. We do not interfere with each other. Especially for this, our and Russian general staffs created a coordination group.
  3. +2
    20 October 2015 07: 09
    What does "after ISIS" mean, will it disappear like this? It can easily mimic a different name, civilians, it penetrates into Afghanistan, and perhaps there the Taliban will merge with ISIS
    1. +4
      20 October 2015 12: 36
      Quote: sa-ag
      it penetrates into Afghanistan and maybe there the Taliban will merge with ISIS

      Is not a fact...
      They are now doing just that, in parallel with conducting military operations against NATO forces and the Afghan government army, the Ishilovites, who are already about 3 in Afghanistan, are being crushed
      Pahan Taliban Akhtar Mohammad Mansur considers ISIS to be occupiers. He calls for the liberation of Afghanistan from all occupation. At the same time, he made a statement that he does not consider the territory of the former republics of the USSR as the interests of the Taliban, and that the information appearing in the media about the possible Taliban movement towards Russia is a deliberate misinformation of the United States and Europe.
      So the Taliban igigovtsy not partners, but rather enemies.
      By the way, why shouldn't Russia throw in passing the phrase that we have noticed the presence of a "moderate Taliban" and are thinking about the possible support of it with weapons? And watch the mattress mats wrinkle their foreheads
  4. +5
    20 October 2015 07: 23
    What will happen after ISIS?... And what happened before that? Al-Qaeda .. To the fact that the United States with satellites, they’ll come up with a thread .. As long as the United States exists .. there’s nothing good .. USA liked it, being a world gendarme, they won’t refuse it ..
    1. +4
      20 October 2015 07: 49
      I will support you completely. The United States, while it exists, will create not a single such organization. Here are just once again stepping on the same rake.
  5. 0
    20 October 2015 08: 00
    Quote: sa-ag
    What does "after ISIS" mean, will it disappear like this? It can easily mimic a different name, civilians, it penetrates into Afghanistan, and perhaps there the Taliban will merge with ISIS


    As one athlete said - "They painted themselves in the colors that they painted themselves with." laughing
    Moderate terrorists during the day, ISIS at night. It is necessary to "calm down" ALL!
  6. +8
    20 October 2015 08: 00
    Israel wisely was the first to reconcile with Syria and fight with the terrorists together, but instead continues the previous policy. I don’t think that the authorities there want to get a united Islamic state against themselves, which means they have leverage over ISIS, since the Zionists had a hand in its creation. A parallel is being asked with National Socialism in Germany created and brought to power by the same structures that now support Islamism. How it ended, I think everyone here remembers.
    1. -4
      20 October 2015 10: 40
      Quote: dvg79
      Israel wisely was the first to reconcile with Syria and fight with terrorists together,

      Great idea, only 2 small details interfere with its implementation. 1. Golan 2. The position of Iran. I have little idea that Israel will be an ally of the state that has set as its goal the destruction of Israel.
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 11: 19
        Quote: Kaiten
        Great idea, only 2 small details interfere with it implementation

        Not in the subject. Poroshenko recently came to our country, he also used this outlandish word from English)) Ear cuts = \ I think they really do not know the words "implementation" or "implementation", for example?) Pure Russian language
        1. -2
          20 October 2015 15: 52
          Quote: karabas
          Realization of

          Strange Purism.
          And the word "realization" is it Russian in origin?
          Implementation is from programming jargon and is no worse than other foreign words in Russian.
      2. +1
        20 October 2015 11: 57
        Quote: Kaiten
        Great idea, only 2 small details interfere with its implementation. 1. Golan 2. The position of Iran. I have little idea that Israel will be an ally of the state that has set as its goal the destruction of Israel.


        I already wrote here that the key to solving your problems lies in Russia.
        Without Russia, you have no future.
        Nobody needs you anymore.

        And the modern Western world is a world of expediency. Well, actually, you yourself put in a lot of effort to make it like that.
        Now you see the "back of the stick".

        Do not aggravate your situation by seeking excuses.
        1. -2
          20 October 2015 15: 56
          Quote: Arkon
          Without Russia, you have no future.
          Nobody needs you anymore.


          And what can Russia give to Israel?
          1. +1
            20 October 2015 19: 19
            Quote: Kaiten
            And what can Russia give to Israel?

            Hmm .... interesting question.
            If you look at it more broadly, it was the USSR that was among the first to recognize the state of Israel.
            I’m not sure, since I was not specifically interested in the topic, but in my opinion at least 30% of Israeli citizens are fluent in Russian and in the case of OU-U in a very difficult situation, they will probably succumb to them to stay in Russia than in Europe or the United States.
            Well, again, in the very case (purely theoretically), when the Arab world really starts to deal with the "problem" of good neighborliness and the existence of Israel - it is unlikely that the countries participating in this showdown will listen to American diplomacy (after what mattresses have done there) , but the opinion of Russia, they will listen unequivocally. So there is no need to blame Russia, as it is she who may still be very useful to Israel in the medium term. And your Netanyahu perfectly understands this, therefore there is no angry condemnation of the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria. What is needed on this issue Israel and Russia have already sorted out during Netanyahu's visit to Moscow.
            1. 0
              21 October 2015 17: 20
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              it’s just that it can still be very useful to Israel, in the medium term

              ok
          2. 0
            20 October 2015 20: 47
            Quote: Kaiten
            And what can Russia give to Israel?


            A life. Moreover, mind you, just like that.
            Russia is life.
      3. 0
        20 October 2015 12: 20
        Quote: Kaiten
        Great thought

        +))) I will not say anything about position No. 1, but I’ll ask about two.
        Quote: Kaiten
        2. The position of Iran.

        Have you ever been interested in the opinions of others about the position of Israel? (and what is it officially and in real life, I still suspect it
        that allowed ........ then you can’t .........))))

        It seems that - there is my position and the positions of all the others do not bother me, and since they have their own positions, then they have been enmity for centuries ..
        Exaggerated, but something like that turns out.

        if I'm wrong about something .. then I’ll listen carefully.
        1. +1
          20 October 2015 12: 56
          O Israel’s position is very simple, Israel wants Iran and Syria to recognize Israel’s right to exist. But somehow they don’t want to. How can such a position not concern us, we are very preparing for it. fellow
          1. +1
            20 October 2015 15: 32
            The new president and government never spoke in the spirit of Ahmadinejad. And he once said something like "the Zionist regime must be destroyed." Are you equating Israel and the Zionist regime?
            1. 0
              20 October 2015 16: 04
              In 2000, Iran’s top leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, in his speech called Israel a “cancerous tumor,” which must be uprooted from the region.

              The intensified anti-American and generally anti-Western mood of the Iranian street led to the fact that in 2005, the chair of the Iranian president was taken by the spokesman for these moods, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad [11]. Under Ahmadinejad, Iran became the world center for Holocaust denial [56], which was seen as a myth created by Zionist propaganda, although such sentiments were already found in the local press (Tehran Times, Jumhuriye Islami) in the 90s [1]. Ahmadinejad himself repeatedly publicly predicted the imminent destruction of Israel [57]. Even if the Holocaust did occur, according to Ahmadinejad, responsibility for it rests with the West and therefore Europe, the USA and Canada should provide territory for the Jewish state [58]. Ahmadinejad’s statements regarding Israel and the Holocaust provoked public condemnation not only in the West and in Israel, but also among the leaders of the Iranian Jewish community [59]. As part of an anti-Semitic propaganda campaign, the Organization for the Propagation of Islam of the Islamic Republic of Iran also organized the release of a new edition of the Protocols of the Zion of the Wise, which appeared in 2005 at an Iranian kiosk at the Frankfurt International Book Fair [60].

              According to the security agencies of Azerbaijan bordering Iran, elements associated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guards participated in the preparation of attacks on the Israeli embassy and Jewish cultural sites in this country [61]. In addition, in 2012 a series of assassination attempts against Israeli diplomats in other countries (India, Georgia and Thailand) was also recorded, which the international commission of inquiry also linked to Iran [62].

              From the wiki. By the way, decisions in Iran are made by Rahbar.
            2. 0
              20 October 2015 16: 06
              Quote: shaman2001
              Do you equate Israel with the Zionist regime?

              What's the difference?
        2. -1
          20 October 2015 15: 55
          Quote: Scoun
          It seems that - there is my position and the positions of all the others do not bother me, and since they have their own positions, then they have been enmity for centuries ..

          Well, voice Iran’s position on Israel here.
  7. -1
    20 October 2015 08: 01
    Under these conditions, it makes sense only to weaken ISIS, even if they deal with the moderate. It seems that the partition of Syria in fact is almost inevitable.
  8. +2
    20 October 2015 08: 06
    a lot of things have been said in the article, but to speak only about the military components of Russia and its potential opponents in Syria is far from all, our Foreign Ministry is doing a lot of work and this will be decisive, if not the main one for the post-war structure of Syria and the region in in general, the struggle of diplomats, if you like, also has its own characteristics and excessive openness, as well as the rush here is inappropriate, the Yankees try to impose a game without rules, but they themselves fall into their own hole, the game continues and is very tough because the geopolitical appetites of all participants in this game are very large ...
  9. Dam
    +3
    20 October 2015 08: 18
    Fighting NATO locally in Syria alone will not work. And this is a deterrent to direct collisions.
  10. +5
    20 October 2015 08: 20
    Does the author suggest a direct clash with NATO forces?
    If so, then a completely different level of funds will be immediately involved.
    In the meantime, we try in Syria protection for tanks, try Solntsepek
    and terminator. In short, we will show the goods face to foreign buyers of our weapons.
  11. +2
    20 October 2015 08: 59
    The article is good, one must be prepared for aggression, but I think NATO has a thin gut to begin a direct clash with Russia. I think they will continue to fight with the wrong hands.
    1. +2
      20 October 2015 09: 03
      It's nothing. If NATO has been predicted, then the Israeli army is brave. It will support him (NATO). Won that Mr. Professor writes you read. laughing
  12. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 06
    I also think that we must be prepared for terrorist acts on the territory of the Russian Federation, especially in crowded places in Moscow and St. Petersburg. This is at a time when the personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was reduced by 100 thousand people.
  13. +4
    20 October 2015 09: 14
    There is only one conclusion from the article - we will have a full-fledged military base in Syria. Thanks to the author.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 10: 47
      If there is a military base there, then it is not by agreement with Assad. If I correctly understood the words of Mr. Prime Minister Medvedev, spoken with the knowledge of Mr. President Putin, Assad is no longer relevant for Russia. Read the transcript of Mr. Medvedev’s interview with Russia on October 17
      And yet: Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said: “We have been commenting for a long time, they said that we do not support Assad, it’s important for us to maintain Syrian statehood,” RIA Novosti quoted Zakharova as saying.
      It seems that about the base it will be necessary to negotiate with the new coalition government of Syria, without the participation of the IG.
  14. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 28
    Our management had to calculate all the possible options. And so I would not want another world war.
  15. +2
    20 October 2015 10: 10
    4 Su-30SM and 6 Su-34 will not be able to withstand hundreds of coalition fighters if the United States and Turkey ever decide to provide direct support to the Syrian opposition. The degree of this scenario is very high.

    Nah ... if these are not enough we’ll add a couple more, however ...
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 11: 41
      I liked it, you’re good with humor, I’ll add a plus.
  16. 0
    20 October 2015 10: 23
    The article is a good plus for sure and let's hope that common sense in this crazy world will prevail.
  17. +3
    20 October 2015 10: 32
    The author has little idea of ​​what will happen in a clash with NATO. Syria will fade into the background, there will be no major battles.
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 12: 17
      .... The author has little idea of ​​what will happen in a clash with NATO. ...

      ... Yes, there will not be any clash with NATO !!!!! .... If they (NATO) wanted to, they would have been stuck long ago ..... They don’t need this .... Yes, and Amer it’s necessary ... So ..... Cheeks are pouting .... lol
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 16: 45
        Will - will not ... I am not talking about this.

        The author found little equipment in Syria in case of a NATO attack.
  18. 0
    20 October 2015 10: 42
    I will not discuss the article, I will only note that the frill of photos is good.
  19. Gur
    +4
    20 October 2015 10: 51
    Guys, let me disagree, for the whole history there have been many different reasons for us and the West, I’ll notice more acute than Syria, and this has never happened, economic issues rule here in order to live better and not to die, second, even our single aircraft will not be attacked and 50 NATO airplanes are not stupid and we are not a 3 sorted Power, besides Caspian surprises we have a lot of them and no one even the USA will want to check it, Third World War III this will be the last War and nobody will starting is not USA NOT WE.

    And the exaggerated buildup of the group in Syria is just wasted money, we are not the Baltic states who will beat us to scream,, and remember, it’s been proved more than once that we have smart people at the helm and they know better where to build something, for example, I was always surprised what for, we’ve got a new fleet in the Caspian Sea, and it turned out that something. And there is still a suspicion that Korea (ours has a Strategic Rocket) just because of this NATO does not stick its beak there, and the article describes that they have a point to attack us MARAZM !!,
    No one will attack, but keep vigilance.
  20. +4
    20 October 2015 11: 08
    The article is, of course, very in the spirit of the times, but it is better for the author to write about what he really understands or to consult "knowledgeable people" so that this does not appear:
    tactical fighter-bombers Su-34, which have today a full range of opportunities to gain air supremacy
    Really? No. But what about the results of the GSE? Let the respected author answer and tell you how the Su-34 will "conquer air supremacy" using only the R-73 melee missile missile system?
  21. 0
    20 October 2015 11: 53
    Hmm ... and what, "Calibers" in the Caspian Sea are over? Are they not in the Black Sea? And a bunch of targets must be dragged to Tartus?
  22. +6
    20 October 2015 12: 22
    The author decided to play operational simulation. But why should you "blunt" for the enemy? Why not fit NATO not two or three, but five or six AVGs, and in Turkey, Israel and the Air Force of the Arabian monarchies there are more than one hundred aircraft. So 24-48 raptors are the icing on the cake. NATO also has overwhelming naval forces in the Mediterranean that can destroy the entire Russian navy with little effort. There is no need to strengthen our group in Syria. In the event of war, the enemy will build up his grouping much faster than we can do through the closed airspace of Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey and through the closed straits. Or breaking through enemy air defenses from Iran. In such conditions, any aviation group will be knocked out, if not immediately, then gradually exhausted. And the same “Petruha” with “Kuzya” will be at the bottom much faster than “Borodino” with “Alexander III”. So let's not send our sailors and pilots to a certain, albeit heroic, death. it is better to put all the forces listed by the author to the temple of Turkey and launch an offensive together with Iran. And while we will go to the Mediterranean Sea, celebrate a good funeral for our limited contingent in Syria.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 14: 51
      And how much from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, can you tell me? And how many "Calibers" does the Black Sea Fleet have? Will NATO have time to build up its grouping during the approach?
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 15: 50
        And how much from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, can you tell me? And how many "Calibers" does the Black Sea Fleet have? Will NATO have time to build up its grouping during the approach?


        Well, maybe share it? The number of calibers at least. At the moment, I only know about two RTOs. How many AB and Aegis escort ships will they sink?
  23. 0
    20 October 2015 12: 59
    Nobody will climb into the 3rd world because of Syria, this is obvious.
    With the help of Russia, the Syrian troops will clean their territory. The question is whether Russia should be limited to this. There is a great opportunity to help crack down on ig, an alkaide to neighbors in Iraq.
    I think that the Israelis should even better understand this than the rest. For the sake of security in the region, an Arab-secular state can be tolerated, and then it will be much harder to endure a bunch of uncontrolled gangs on the former territory of this state.
  24. +1
    20 October 2015 13: 06
    Wow, it turns out that we have a Su-34 and performs the functions of a PLO, according to the author fellow
    And the caliber turns out we have strategic missiles fellow
    Well, in general, it’s understandable ... commercials and iskanders will become strategic in our country .... the professionalism in the article just rolls over)).
  25. +1
    20 October 2015 14: 03
    I don’t think we will get into an open clash over the "moderate opposition". They can cry out, but they can also declare the sanctions total and unlimited. Only we will not give a damn about this matter. And they will also drop weapons and equipment to all who are against Assad and spoil our contingent in little detail.
    For the most part, the West understands that if a real bodalovo begins with Russia, then it will not seem to anyone. So you can get to the dinosaurs. Let's see what happens. Now the main thing is to put together an existing coalition and continue to hammer all the moderate and not so much.


    DO WHAT SHOULD AND BE WHAT WILL (Mark Aurelius, Roman emperor) - this phrase is still relevant.
  26. 0
    20 October 2015 14: 24
    "A salvo launch of 3M14 Kalibr-NK strategic cruise missiles ..." Ah ... is it really "strategic"? "Operational-tactical" - maybe ...?
  27. 0
    20 October 2015 14: 48
    Are Turkish airbases with American planes located outside the range of the Caspian flotilla?
  28. 0
    20 October 2015 15: 05
    The author forgot about the nuclear potential! Who decides to fall on the aerospace forces with an imminent nuclear strike? Moreover, the GDP said that the Russian Federation has the right to respond by whatever means it deems necessary.
  29. 0
    20 October 2015 15: 36
    Great photo of the Su-34. Regarding the topic of the author, I want to say that not everything is measured by the technical characteristics, the quantity and quality of equipment - the main thing is PEOPLE.
    The theme was developed by the author, over, masterfully - a lot of details about the technique. And the topic of probable confrontation is very much ... but just speculate.
    Because The likelihood of a real collision of "NATO" "vultures" is not zero, of course, but very low - the Russian military is not the military of the "banana" republics and not Arabs. As I recall from biology, vultures do not attack the healthy and strong, but only the weak (weakened). You can also compare them with jackals.
    P.S. I apologize, so to speak, to these inhabitants of the living fauna for comparing with these (o) -m. wink
  30. 0
    20 October 2015 15: 43
    A huge plus for the author.

    A very, very difficult question has been raised. Bombing the "moderate opposition" in the way that ISIS is being bombed now will not work. That is, at the moment, the units of the "moderate opposition" are arming themselves and trying to preserve their strength. The author correctly pointed out one of the directions - the defeat of ISIS. And the second is to re-create the Syrian Armed Forces. So that they can suppress the armed forces of the "moderates". We need compulsory demilitarization. Now it is necessary to poke the nose of the Western "partners" into their own phrase "the state has the right to violence." The legitimate President of Syria B. Assad has the right to use violence in his country.

    In political terms, it is necessary to force the "moderate" to sit down at the negotiating table with B. Assad. There are several saucepans in the political kitchen. And everyone is boiling and gurgling.
  31. +2
    20 October 2015 15: 51
    Russian pilots are wetting terrorists, and Syrian pilots are supposed to wet moderate terrorists.
  32. +3
    20 October 2015 16: 05
    Quote: Andryukha G
    Russian pilots are wetting terrorists, and Syrian pilots are supposed to wet moderate terrorists.



    Or vice versa, maybe together those and those who sort it out? wink
  33. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 10
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Nobody will climb into the 3rd world because of Syria, this is obvious.


    Yeah. About WW1, too, thought so. In the capital of Croatia, Sarajevo, it would seem, 1 person was killed.
  34. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 13
    Quote: glavnykarapuz
    Great photo of the Su-34. Regarding the topic of the author, I want to say that not everything is measured by the technical characteristics, the quantity and quality of equipment - the main thing is PEOPLE.
    The theme was developed by the author, over, masterfully - a lot of details about the technique. And the topic of probable confrontation is very much ... but just speculate.


    People are important. People are users of technology. But the class and quality of weapons in the modern world decide. The orders of the mobile communications officers in the Georgian conflict are partly fictitious but also a fact at the same time.

    The author wrote well ... it's a pity there is no summary of the number of pieces of equipment from "them" and from us. The real number of pieces. In the army. Not on paper and not in production plans. Everything will not be as beautiful as in the article. Let's minus.
  35. 0
    20 October 2015 17: 13
    Quote: sevtrash
    Under these conditions, it makes sense only to weaken ISIS, even if they deal with the moderate. It seems that the partition of Syria in fact is almost inevitable.


    Agree
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 19: 03
      I still think that I agree and am grateful for the current help against the bearded men. They are the most dangerous today for everyone, especially for Israel.
      Professor, don’t mock, but still say thank you to the Russians. Today, so from the heart, in fairness.
      Well Kaiten, too ...
  36. 0
    20 October 2015 19: 32
    And I remember not so long ago that the question was discussed here, why rocket ships in the Caspian. Well, here is the answer.
  37. 0
    20 October 2015 20: 59
    So we’ll sleep the war.
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  39. 0
    20 October 2015 23: 18
    Quote: Kaiten
    Quote: Arkon
    Without Russia, you have no future.
    Nobody needs you anymore.


    And what can Russia give to Israel?

    You!
  40. 0
    21 October 2015 05: 10
    we have nowhere to retreat, we’ll only give slack, they will tear it to pieces, so only forward to VICTORY!

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