The head of the DPR in response to the request Poroshenko to cancel the results of last year’s elections in the Donbass offered Kiev to cancel the results of the presidential and parliamentary elections

The head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, commented on the demand to cancel the results of last year’s elections in the people's republics of Donbass, voiced by Petro Poroshenko. Recall that the President of Ukraine announced that "to implement the Minsk agreements, the election results in Donbass November 2 2014 of the year must be canceled." At the same time Poroshenko called the elections in the DPR and the LPR “pseudo-elections”.

Donetsk News Agency cites the statement of Alexander Zakharchenko:

Based on what? The fact that Poroshenko is afraid to sit with me at the negotiating table? Ashamed to sit down at the negotiating table with the one you lost? Isn't it a shame to bring your country to civil war and economic collapse? However, we are ready to consider the question of canceling the elections in the Donetsk People's Republic of November 2, 2014. But on one condition. First, the presidential elections of Ukraine Poroshenko in the spring and the elections to the Verkhovna Rada in the autumn of 2014 should be canceled.

At the same time, Zakharchenko substantiated his response proposal by the fact that in the elections held last year in the Donbass there is much more legitimacy than in the elections in the territory, which is somehow controlled by Kiev.

Alexander Zakharchenko:

And my proposal is more reasonable, even in terms of democratic standards. The basis of our elections is the most democratic of all possible procedures - a referendum. And at the heart of the elections Poroshenko and the Verkhovna Rada is an armed coup d'etat. The elections in Ukraine themselves were accompanied by political terror and a ban on competition. And a significant part of the country did not vote at all. So our elections are more legitimate even in terms of democratic procedures. And let not only Poroshenko, but also Ukrainian voters think about this.

Recall that the authorities of the DNI and LC went to the transfer of elections scheduled for October and November current year, explaining his step desire to stop the armed confrontation. Now Kiev is in charge of re-voting under the law on special status, the restoration of economic ties with the DPR and the LPR, as well as other steps that the ukropresident promised to perform during the meeting of the "Norman" four in Paris. But the price of Poroshenko’s promises is well known to all.

Comments

[svetoruss]

It's time, it's time for Petya to visit the "squirrel" with a return visit ...

[vovanpain]

Yes, little depends on Petyuni there, Petrushka is just a doll.

[Finches]

Yes, miners, and you have lived and measured with this ... With all the "Svoboda", "Right Sectors", UPA-UNSO, Yushchenko, Yulia, Poroshenko ... That's the ficus!

[DenZ]

They lived and did not put up with what subsequently proved.

[VadimSt]

No offense to other Russians, but I would like to ask this "admiral of politics" from St. Petersburg, but did not they live and live next to you: Novodvorskaya, Alekseeva, Nemtsov, Nadezhdin, Gozman, Kasparov, Ganopolsky, Sobchachka, Udaltsov, Akhedzhakova and others " defenders of Russia from the Russians ", which can be listed for a long time, or simply watch the footage with Bolotnaya! Why are we "mEEMING" with them?

[Finches]

Novodvorskaya has become president in our country or now Kasparov scored 100% of the vote in Kostroma !? We had a fiery Maidan?

I do not pretend to be an admiral of politics! But Russophobia in Ukraine flourished all the years of independence and deputies from its eastern regions were not even able to resolve the issue of the status of the Russian language - why ??? Why was Lviv able to push through all its nationalist laws, but the East was not? Can you answer this question? And I’ll ask without outrageous rudeness!

[revnagan]

Quote: Finches

Why was Lviv able to push through all its nationalist laws, but the East was not?

The answer is simple - “roof.” "Right Sector" - please, invested a lot of money. And what and where did the opponents of the fascists get? They tried to manipulate Yanukovosch, buying it corny. But the Russian population of Ukraine is not Yanukovosch. And now they are generally divided into Russians of the first, second and third grade . The first grade is the inhabitants of the Crimea. This is good. The second grade is the inhabitants of Donbass. The third grade is the Russian inhabitants of the rest of Ukraine. If they did not rise against the junta, it means they were sold. And to hell with them. Cut off a chunk. The third grade.

[Finches]

In any case, this is not too convincing and more like an excuse for the Eastern regions! All the more, one should speak not about Yanukovych’s rule, but at the very beginning, when the infection just got out of its caches ... There are very good and illustrative examples of Belarus and Kazakhstan , where they did not slip into outright fascism and civil war, although their opposition the western guys in the early 90s spud no less, trying to plant the poisonous seeds of nationalism and Russophobia!

[YGV-97219]

Here, much if not everything depended on the leaders of the republics! In Ukraine, for many years they conducted an anti-Russian policy and moved away from it flirting with the West!

[Finches]

I think you simplify things a bit! The head of state is undoubtedly a decisive factor, but it is the static nature of the East that led Ukraine to the pro-Western Maidan. All together went to the polls, chose, remained silent, worked ... until the moment they started to burn them ... That is, until 2014!

[unsinkable]

Quote: Finches

, and at the very beginning, when the infection only crawled out of its caches ..

In support of Zyablicev. Back in Soviet times (not always bad) I talked with workers from Ukraine. I emphasize with workers, that is, with ordinary citizens. I still remember their words: * We came to the Union * ... (not further necessary ). We conclude: they came to the UNION from ANOTHER COUNTRY. So already there was a Bandera infection. That was at the very beginning of the 70s of the last century.

[bpa1949]

No dear! - This is a marriage.

[VadimSt]

Quote: Finches

Novodvorskaya has become president in our country or now Kasparov scored 100% of the vote in Kostroma !? We had a fiery Maidan?

I didn't want to answer, but I have to! You were either still in childhood, or you forgot that there was a "cold autumn of 1993", there was an alcoholic Borya, with whom the whole world laughed, there was his Gaidar team, there was the first and second Chechen war, there was a parade of sovereignties and presidents .. .Not enough fingers to list all that vile and vile that was still heaped up immediately after the collapse of the USSR. Calm down! It is better to count how many former advisers, assistants and ministers have represented and represent the irreconcilable opposition in Russia, or rather, the fifth column of the West.

[ig0r135]

As for the "alcoholic Bori", since you are writing about this, then you remember the euphoria of that time, how everyone was happy that they finally threw off this "scoop". Remembered. Now think what he could have done when Gorby surrendered the USSR and almost went to America. When all the allied rulers wanted to determine themselves. Maybe he "washed down" something that would not bang him like a Swan. Most likely, he simply cheated, because such a politician is not afraid of anyone, he even played the fool in his elections. Now, remember the series of rearrangements of the prime ministers, up to the appointment of V.V. Putin. And finally, the transfer of powers of the President and remember what President Yeltsin said to the people of Russia. And many people say "alcoholic, drunk" and other things. And for me, he did everything possible that he was capable of at that time and with those people to hand Russia over to the reliable hands of a successor who will revive and restore Russia. What we see now.

[APASUS]

Quote: ig0r135

Now think about what he could do when Gorbi surrendered the USSR and almost lay down under America.

However, Putin got the country from Boris’s hands in a worse condition and didn’t deny that he would be killed! There’s always a choice ............ just don’t say that circumstances forced Borya to drink, the person wanted to hide and he made his choice consciously enough!

[ig0r135]

It's not that he got scared or that the circumstances made him drink. And the fact that he realized that he was not able to lead a country like Russia, and his age was running out. Was he hiding, no. After all, I wrote that he was looking for a person who could raise Russia and found it. And you wrote correctly that he made his choice deliberately, he deliberately searched, found and, in a sense, brought up and verified the status of prime minister of the future president of Russia, and then deliberately transferred powers, here is such a "drunk Borya". They love us, you know, to hang labels without understanding the essence.

[Finches]

I was in the army, in the army ... Yes, I was a young man, but youth, unfortunately, is a flaw that passes quickly!

You correctly noted - we had the fall of 1993, when two branches of power came up against each other .., then there were the 1996 elections with a bloody Chechen company between, when Yeltsin was drawn the result, but already at the top understood that the pro-American way of life in Russia was not passes ... It was these events that were obvious and many secret that were the forerunners of the coming to power of GDP!

If the miners in the Russian city of Donetsk, the shipbuilders in the Russian city of Nikolaev, the tank builders of the Russian city of Kharkov ... hadn’t watched with their fingers since 1990, as the portraits of Bandera were pasted on their streets and destroyed monuments to the Soviet wars, believe me - now there wasn’t what happened!

And I asked without dashing rudeness - to discuss, so politely and with respect for each other's opinions! And to indicate age or to throw expressions "Admiral of politics from St. Petersburg", it is at least not entirely tactful!

Best regards

[VadimSt]

Quote: Finches

And I asked without dashing rudeness - to discuss, so politely and with respect for each other's opinions! And to indicate age or to throw expressions "Admiral of politics from St. Petersburg", it is at least not entirely tactful!

I do not aspire to confrontation! I sincerely regret and ask for an apology!
PS - Emotions are inevitable when someone "from afar", unfairly, without objective analysis of events and prerequisites, without direct, personal perception of what is happening, tries to externally teach, accuse or reproach. I, like many others, probably could not even imagine in a dream that my grandson, or the neighbour's children, would not play on the "damaged phone" on the street, but argue with me on the topic - what "arrived" and "where it came to".

[Finches]

Thank you for the dialogue!

[unsinkable]

Quote: VadimSt

It’s not enough to enumerate all that vile and vile that was heaped up right after the collapse of the USSR. Calm down! It’s better to calculate how many former advisers, assistants and ministers represented and represent the irreconcilable opposition in Russia, or rather, the fifth column of the West.

This proves that we, too, went through vague, cruel, but less scary times than in Ukraine.

[beer-youk]

According to personal observations, since the end of the 70s of the last century, Russophobia in the Kh..diye has always flourished at the household level. And, what amazed me most of all, not in Zapadenshchen, but in Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and Sumy. At least, neither in Lvov, nor in Khmelnytsky, nor in Uzhgorod, no one told me as in Zaporozhye: "I am not a Radansku language!"

[VadimSt]

It is difficult to agree when I have been to almost all regions of Ukraine many times, from year to year. This "exclusivity" began to climb out in the central regions of Ukraine in the early 00s, and before that, it manifested itself in a "polite form" only in Western Ukraine, including Stanislavschina (Ivano-Frankivsk). Universal Ukrainization began to be carried out and, accordingly, "climb out of the cracks" only after the collapse of the USSR. Even the exchange of Soviet passports began in 1996!

[Gormenghast]

Well, some of the list no longer lives (ran away), some quite does not live, and someone, so to speak, "departs".

Some unfortunately thrive.

[pvv113]

I am embarrassed to recall that Nemtsov was already banged, and the devils were already taken away

[voronbel53]

Daragoi is a botanist, - never face ficuses ...

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/654/uids130.jpg

"Squirrel" is already tired of him, she will soon go crazy ...

[Vend]

This is the answer. Here he is the real president, for the future country. Zakharchenko will be able to raise New Russia.

[KazaK Bo]

Wend (2)
This is the answer. Here he is the real president,

That's right - you want to keep on talking ... lead on an equal footing ... or else it will be better .. let's make an exchange: BASH to BASH ... you leave and I!
And in general, Peta, it's time to make a choice ... while you were chosen by OBAMUSHKA ... Petya, you worship him ... But HOW DOES THIS SUSPENDED BY ANOTHER DOLLARS CONTINUE YOUR PRESIDENTIAL STATE? Can still make a choice in favor of the people, And Petya?
But for this you still need to let the "squirrel" go on vacation ... Look how she asks!

[Good me]

Quote: Wend

This is the answer. Here he is the real president, for the future country. Zakharchenko will be able to raise New Russia.

Maybe it can ... But for this, at least, it is necessary to do the very least: To finally liberate the territories of the DPR and LPR.

It's minimum. The cornerstone, if you will. And from this, then, and "dance" as if from a stove.

[VadimSt]

Quote: Wend

This is the answer. Here he is the real president, for the future country. Zakharchenko will be able to raise New Russia.

After Minsk-2, Zakharchenko no longer decides anything. He is obliged to comply with the conditions that Russia has guaranteed to other participants in this process! Until that moment, while Kiev, at the very least, "walks around" these conditions, both he and Plotnitsky's hands are tied. But, no one will forbid them to prevent DLNR citizens from obtaining Russian citizenship, to develop ties with Russia.

[Juborg]

This is trolling! Level not lower than 90.

[volot-voin]

Quote: svetoruss

It's time, it's time for Petya to visit the "squirrel" with a return visit ...

Feels Petya will end badly. You will not please everyone .. and the United States, and Europe, and Parliament and the people.

[svetoruss]

I agree with you, as the poet said: - "You can't just sit on opposite trains."

[katalonec2014]

Worthily answered the villain.

[venaya]

Poroshenko called the elections in the DPR and LPR "pseudo-elections"

He doesn’t see logs in his eye, weirdo.

[Wolka]

what’s called not in the eyebrow, but in the eye ...

[Baloo]

Poroshenko is afraid to sit with me at the negotiating table? Is it a shame to sit down at the negotiating table with the one whom you lost? But is it not a shame to bring your country to civil war and economic collapse? However, we are ready to consider the question of canceling the elections in the Donetsk People’s Republic on November 2, 2014. But on one condition. First, the election of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko in the spring and the elections to the Verkhovna Rada in the fall of 2014 should be canceled

Bravo! Donetsk was not mistaken in choosing a leader. I believe miners will defeat banderlogs.

[katalonec2014]

Who knows, maybe this is the future president of Ukraine, someday the people will get tired of this "prosperity".

[sl22277]

The actions and frank delirium of Poros only lead to an increase in the degree of tension, and again it can lead to conflict. Obviously Poroshenko understands this, but all the same, how insane he stubbornly climbs into trouble.

[Stirbjorn]

Petya American puppet - says what they say to him

[Frigate]

Let the Donetsk and Lugansk authorities put forward demands that they will talk only with sober Poroshenko.

[gryaznov.igor.]

I think the truth of life

[Igor Polovodov]

the boar is better than Waltzemora! soulful!

[Tatar 174]

Poroshenko ran into what he had to once. What, the State Department did not have time to compose a text? Zakharchenko respect!

[Frigate]

Quote: Tartar 174

Poroshenko ran into what he had to once. What, the State Department did not have time to compose a text? Zakharchenko respect!

[manguest]

Piglets on the occasion of Nazi Day overloaded the brain with alcohol and carries all kinds of crap. Given that alcoholism causes many concomitant diseases, it should be more careful with drinks. However, it is not useful then his health is good.

[Stirbjorn]

For Poroshenko, ideally, again appoint his governor, as before Taruta and negotiate with him.

[volodia.cutepov]

Russia is on the right track! Keep it up!

[parafoiler]

Well done Zakharchenko, the words are not a boy, but a husband!

[EvgNik]

Zakharchenko is apparently the most adequate and decent of all Ukrainian (and not only Ukrainian) politicians. And he doesn’t run away from the war (he was wounded). Thank you so much for all that he has done and continues to do. Maybe only thanks to such people we were not completely disappointed in Ukraine.

[roskot]

No faith in Piglet. As they said - there is nowhere to put a lap on it. He lives in a different parallel world. And it is not treated.

[kizhe]

Not a patch. They said: "There is no place to put brands."

[anderles66]

Well. Zakharchenko offset. The answer is both mocking and correct and accurate. If he came up with But it seems to me that myself.

[kizhe]

Poroshenko is useless to call names, offend, stigmatize. They say about such people in Russia: "Though ssy in the eyes, everything is God's dew."

[Balagan]

Such an adequate response to skaklam is normal!

[pts-m]

to the answer of Zakharchenko ... not to add not to diminish ... to the very point. with the experience of military operations comes the confidence and wisdom of statements ...

[vladimirvn]

Senya, take care of your head! "A Russian lawyer spoke about Yatsenyuk's 'exploits' in Chechnya."
“In this battle, I still remember the moment - the constant movement of Yatsenyuk from one firing point to another. Everyone there took a position, and he ran. Yatsenyuk had a military helmet on his head, she was still wrapped in something, either in a sweater, or something else, there was something else inside. He feared for his life, ”the document says.
Original news from InoTV:
https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2015-10-15/Rossijskij-advokat-rasskazal-o-podvigah

[proletarian]

Well dear ones, we will have to prepare for a new exacerbation of "uropsychosis"; who has not understood until now I explain: Poroshenko cannot "push through" only with the help of "his" faction in the RADA this bill, and the so-called "coalition" (more precisely, there will be a cesspool ) on the verge of disintegration, the radicals (more precisely, neo-Nazis) will clearly vote against, since this bill will actually "bury" all of them and give the maximum power to Poroshenko, therefore there will be a big "butch".

[mamont5]

Well done Zakharchenko! Shod Piglet well.