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The head of the DPR in response to the request Poroshenko to cancel the results of last year’s elections in the Donbass offered Kiev to cancel the results of the presidential and parliamentary elections

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The head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, commented on the demand to cancel the results of last year’s elections in the people's republics of Donbass, voiced by Petro Poroshenko. Recall that the President of Ukraine announced that "to implement the Minsk agreements, the election results in Donbass November 2 2014 of the year must be canceled." At the same time Poroshenko called the elections in the DPR and the LPR “pseudo-elections”.


The head of the DPR in response to the request Poroshenko to cancel the results of last year’s elections in the Donbass offered Kiev to cancel the results of the presidential and parliamentary elections


Donetsk News Agency cites the statement of Alexander Zakharchenko:

Based on what? The fact that Poroshenko is afraid to sit with me at the negotiating table? Ashamed to sit down at the negotiating table with the one you lost? Isn't it a shame to bring your country to civil war and economic collapse? However, we are ready to consider the question of canceling the elections in the Donetsk People's Republic of November 2, 2014. But on one condition. First, the presidential elections of Ukraine Poroshenko in the spring and the elections to the Verkhovna Rada in the autumn of 2014 should be canceled.


At the same time, Zakharchenko substantiated his response proposal by the fact that in the elections held last year in the Donbass there is much more legitimacy than in the elections in the territory, which is somehow controlled by Kiev.

Alexander Zakharchenko:
And my proposal is more reasonable, even in terms of democratic standards. The basis of our elections is the most democratic of all possible procedures - a referendum. And at the heart of the elections Poroshenko and the Verkhovna Rada is an armed coup d'etat. The elections in Ukraine themselves were accompanied by political terror and a ban on competition. And a significant part of the country did not vote at all. So our elections are more legitimate even in terms of democratic procedures. And let not only Poroshenko, but also Ukrainian voters think about this.


Recall that the authorities of the DNI and LC went to the transfer of elections scheduled for October and November current year, explaining his step desire to stop the armed confrontation. Now Kiev is in charge of re-voting under the law on special status, the restoration of economic ties with the DPR and the LPR, as well as other steps that the ukropresident promised to perform during the meeting of the "Norman" four in Paris. But the price of Poroshenko’s promises is well known to all.
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  1. svetoruss
    svetoruss 15 October 2015 13: 47 New
    11
    Пора,пора уже Пете посетить "белочку" с ответным визитом...
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 15 October 2015 13: 51 New
      37
      Yes, little depends on Petyuni there, Petrushka is just a doll.
    2. Finches
      Finches 15 October 2015 13: 54 New
      -16
      Да, шахтари, а вы ведь с этим жили и мерились...Со всеми "Свободами","Правыми секторами", УПА-УНСО,Ющенками,Юлями,Порошенко...Вот в чем фикус!
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 15 October 2015 13: 58 New
        10
        They lived and did not put up with what subsequently proved.
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      3. VadimSt
        VadimSt 15 October 2015 14: 07 New
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        Не в обиду другим россиянам, но хочется спросить у этого "адмирала политики" из Питера, а разве не рядом с тобой жили и живут: Новодворская, Алексеева, Немцов, Надеждин, Гозман, Каспаров, Ганопольский, Собчачка, Удальцов, Ахеджакова и другие "защитники России от русских", коих можно перечислить еще долго, или просто, просмотреть съемки с Болотной! Чего же с ними-то "мЕримся"?
        1. Finches
          Finches 15 October 2015 14: 23 New
          11
          Novodvorskaya has become president in our country or now Kasparov scored 100% of the vote in Kostroma !? We had a fiery Maidan?

          I do not pretend to be an admiral of politics! But Russophobia in Ukraine flourished all the years of independence and deputies from its eastern regions were not even able to resolve the issue of the status of the Russian language - why ??? Why was Lviv able to push through all its nationalist laws, but the East was not? Can you answer this question? And I’ll ask without outrageous rudeness!
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 15 October 2015 14: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: Finches
            Why was Lviv able to push through all its nationalist laws, but the East was not?

            Ответ простой - "крыша".Поддержка.Финансовая,медийная,и пр. и пр.Всё это и в необходимом количестве получало прозападное лобби укрополитики.А кто поддерживал пророссийски настроенных политиков?Кто поддержал пророссийские организации на Украине?Тот же "Оплот"?"Правый Сектор"-пожалуйста,вложено средст немеряно.А что и откуда получали противники фашистов?Пытались манипулировать Януковощем,банально покупая его.А ведь русское население Украины-это не Януковощ.А теперь вот вообще разделили на русских первого,второго и третьего сорта.Первый сорт-это жители Крыма.Это хорошо.Второй сорт-это жители Донбасса.Третий сорт-русские жители остальной Украины.Если не поднялись против хунты-значит продались.И хрен с ними.Отрезаный ломоть.Третий сорт.
            1. Finches
              Finches 15 October 2015 14: 47 New
              -5
              In any case, this is not too convincing and more like an excuse for the Eastern regions! All the more, one should speak not about Yanukovych’s rule, but at the very beginning, when the infection just got out of its caches ... There are very good and illustrative examples of Belarus and Kazakhstan , where they did not slip into outright fascism and civil war, although their opposition the western guys in the early 90s spud no less, trying to plant the poisonous seeds of nationalism and Russophobia!
              1. YGV-97219
                YGV-97219 15 October 2015 16: 42 New
                +1
                Here, much if not everything depended on the leaders of the republics! In Ukraine, for many years they conducted an anti-Russian policy and moved away from it flirting with the West!
                1. Finches
                  Finches 15 October 2015 17: 00 New
                  +2
                  I think you simplify things a bit! The head of state is undoubtedly a decisive factor, but it is the static nature of the East that led Ukraine to the pro-Western Maidan. All together went to the polls, chose, remained silent, worked ... until the moment they started to burn them ... That is, until 2014!
              2. unsinkable
                unsinkable 15 October 2015 22: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: Finches
                , and at the very beginning, when the infection only crawled out of its caches ..

                In support of Zyablicev. Back in Soviet times (not always bad) I talked with workers from Ukraine. I emphasize with workers, that is, with ordinary citizens. I still remember their words: * We came to the Union * ... (not further necessary ). We conclude: they came to the UNION from ANOTHER COUNTRY. So already there was a Bandera infection. That was at the very beginning of the 70s of the last century.
            2. bpa1949
              bpa1949 15 October 2015 21: 45 New
              0
              No dear! - This is a marriage.
          2. VadimSt
            VadimSt 15 October 2015 18: 01 New
            +4
            Quote: Finches
            Novodvorskaya has become president in our country or now Kasparov scored 100% of the vote in Kostroma !? We had a fiery Maidan?
            Не хотелось отвечать, но придется! Вы или еще были в детском возрасте, или забыли о том, что была "холодная осень 1993", был алкоголик Боря, с которого смеялся весь мир, была его гайдаровская команда, была первая и вторая Чеченская война, был парад суверенитетов и президентов...не хватит пальцев перечислять все то гнусное и подлое, что еще было наворочено сразу после развала СССР. Угомонитесь! Лучше посчитайте, сколько бывших советников, помощников и министров представляли и представляют непримиримую оппозицию в России, а точнее, пятую колонну Запада.
            1. ig0r135
              ig0r135 15 October 2015 19: 43 New
              -4
              Насчёт "алкоголика Бори", раз вы пишите об этом, значит помните эйфорию того времени, как все радовались, что скинули наконец этот "совок". Вспомнили. А теперь подумайте, что он мог сделать, когда Горби сдал СССР и почти лёг под Америку. Когда все союзные правители захотели самоопределиться. Может он "запил" то, что-бы его не грохнули как Лебедя. Скорее всего, он просто схитрил, ведь такой политик никому не страшен, он даже юродствовал на своих выборах. А теперь, вспомните череду перестановок премьеров, вплоть до назначения В.В. Путина. И наконец, передачу полномочий президента и вспомните что говорил, президент Ельцин народу России. А очень многие говорят "алкоголик, пьянь" и ещё разное. А по мне, он сделал всё возможное, на что был способен в то время и с теми людьми, что бы передать Россию в надёжные руки преемника, который возродит и восстановит Россию. Что мы и видим сейчас.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 15 October 2015 20: 34 New
                +2
                Quote: ig0r135
                Now think about what he could do when Gorbi surrendered the USSR and almost lay down under America.

                However, Putin got the country from Boris’s hands in a worse condition and didn’t deny that he would be killed! There’s always a choice ............ just don’t say that circumstances forced Borya to drink, the person wanted to hide and he made his choice consciously enough!
                1. ig0r135
                  ig0r135 17 October 2015 23: 21 New
                  0
                  Дело не в том, что он испугался или обстоятельства заставили его пить. А в том, что он понял, что не способен руководить такой страной, как Россия, да и возраст поджимал. Разве он прятался, нет. Ведь я написал, что он искал такого человека, который сможет поднять Россию и нашёл. И вы правильно написали, что он делал свой выбор осознанно, он осознанно искал, нашёл и в каком-то смысле воспитал и проверил в статусе премьер-министра будущего президента России, а потом осознанно передал полномочия, вот такой вот "алкаш Боря". Любят у нас, понимаешь, вешать ярлыки, не разобравшись в сути.
            2. Finches
              Finches 15 October 2015 21: 07 New
              +4
              I was in the army, in the army ... Yes, I was a young man, but youth, unfortunately, is a flaw that passes quickly!

              You correctly noted - we had the fall of 1993, when two branches of power came up against each other .., then there were the 1996 elections with a bloody Chechen company between, when Yeltsin was drawn the result, but already at the top understood that the pro-American way of life in Russia was not passes ... It was these events that were obvious and many secret that were the forerunners of the coming to power of GDP!

              If the miners in the Russian city of Donetsk, the shipbuilders in the Russian city of Nikolaev, the tank builders of the Russian city of Kharkov ... hadn’t watched with their fingers since 1990, as the portraits of Bandera were pasted on their streets and destroyed monuments to the Soviet wars, believe me - now there wasn’t what happened!

              И я же попросил без залихватского хамства - дискутировать, так вежливо и с уважением мнения друг друга!А указывать на возраст или бросаться выражениями "адмирал политики из Питера", это как минимум не совсем тактично!

              Best regards hi
              1. VadimSt
                VadimSt 15 October 2015 22: 44 New
                +1
                Quote: Finches
                И я же попросил без залихватского хамства - дискутировать, так вежливо и с уважением мнения друг друга!А указывать на возраст или бросаться выражениями "адмирал политики из Питера", это как минимум не совсем тактично!
                I do not aspire to confrontation! hi I sincerely regret and ask for an apology!
                P.S - Эмоции неизбежны тогда, когда кто-то "издалека", несправедливо, без объективного анализа событий и предпосылок, без непосредственного, личного восприятия происходящего, пытается экстерном поучать, обвинять или упрекать. Я, как наверное и многие другие, никогда и во сне не мог себе представить то, что мой внук, или соседские дети, будут не в "испорченный телефон" на улице играть, а спорить со мной на тему, - что "прилетело" и "куда прилетело".
                1. Finches
                  Finches 16 October 2015 05: 13 New
                  0
                  Thank you for the dialogue! hi
            3. unsinkable
              unsinkable 15 October 2015 22: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: VadimSt
              It’s not enough to enumerate all that vile and vile that was heaped up right after the collapse of the USSR. Calm down! It’s better to calculate how many former advisers, assistants and ministers represented and represent the irreconcilable opposition in Russia, or rather, the fifth column of the West.

              This proves that we, too, went through vague, cruel, but less scary times than in Ukraine.
          3. beer-youk
            beer-youk 15 October 2015 19: 24 New
            0
            По личным наблюдениям с конца 70-х прошлого века русофобия в Х..дии процветала на бытовом уровне всегда. И, что меня более всего поражало, не в Западеньщене, а в Запорожье, Днепропетровске и Сумах. По крайней мере, ни во Львове, ни в Хмельницком, ни в Ужгороде мне никто не сказал как в Запорожье:" Я раданьску мову не разумию!"
            1. VadimSt
              VadimSt 15 October 2015 23: 26 New
              0
              Трудно согласится, когда многократно, из-года в год, бывал почти во всех областях Украины. Эта "исключительность", стала вылазить в центральных областях Украины в начале 00-х, а до этого, проявлялась в "вежливой форме" только на Западной Украине, включая Станиславщину (Ивано-Франковск). Поголовная украинизация началась проводиться и соответственно "вылазить из щелей", только после развала СССР. Даже обмен советских паспортов, начался в 1996!
        2. Gormenghast
          Gormenghast 15 October 2015 15: 23 New
          +1
          Well, some of the list no longer lives (ran away), some quite does not live, а кто-то, так сказать, "departs".

          Some unfortunately thrive.
        3. pvv113
          pvv113 15 October 2015 19: 00 New
          +2
          I am embarrassed to recall that Nemtsov was already banged, and the devils were already taken away wink
      4. voronbel53
        voronbel53 15 October 2015 16: 43 New
        0
        Daragoi is a botanist, - never face ficuses ...
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    4. sever.56
      sever.56 15 October 2015 13: 57 New
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      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/654/uids130.jpg

      "Белочка" уже сама от него устала, скоро с ума сойдет... wassat

    5. Vend
      Vend 15 October 2015 13: 58 New
      +8
      This is the answer. Here he is the real president, for the future country. Zakharchenko will be able to raise New Russia.
      1. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 15 October 2015 15: 29 New
        +1
        Wend (2)
        This is the answer. Here he is the real president,

        That's right - you want to keep on talking ... lead on an equal footing ... or else it will be better .. let's make an exchange: BASH to BASH ... you leave and I!
        And in general, Peta, it's time to make a choice ... while you were chosen by OBAMUSHKA ... Petya, you worship him ... But HOW DOES THIS SUSPENDED BY ANOTHER DOLLARS CONTINUE YOUR PRESIDENTIAL STATE? Can still make a choice in favor of the people, And Petya?
        Но для этого всё же надо отпустить "белочку" в отпуск... Посмотри, как она просится!
      2. Good me
        Good me 15 October 2015 15: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        This is the answer. Here he is the real president, for the future country. Zakharchenko will be able to raise New Russia.


        Maybe it can ... But for this, at least, it is necessary to do the very least: To finally liberate the territories of the DPR and LPR.

        Это минимум. Краеугольный камень,если хотите. А от этого, затем и "плясать", как от печки.
      3. VadimSt
        VadimSt 15 October 2015 22: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        This is the answer. Here he is the real president, for the future country. Zakharchenko will be able to raise New Russia.
        После Минска-2, Захарченко уже ничего не решает. Он обязан соблюдать условия, которые гарантировала Россия другим участникам этого процесса! До того момента, пока Киев, худо-бедно "ходит вокруг" этих условий, и у него, и у Плотницкого связаны руки. А вот, не препятствовать гражданам ДЛНР получать российское гражданство, развивать связи с Россией, им никто не запретит.
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    7. Juborg
      Juborg 15 October 2015 15: 54 New
      0
      This is trolling! Level not lower than 90.
  2. volot-voin
    volot-voin 15 October 2015 13: 49 New
    +7
    Quote: svetoruss
    Пора,пора уже Пете посетить "белочку" с ответным визитом...

    Feels Petya will end badly. You will not please everyone .. and the United States, and Europe, and Parliament and the people.
    1. svetoruss
      svetoruss 15 October 2015 13: 56 New
      +9
      Согласен с вами,как сказал поэт:-"Нельзя одной и той же ..опой,сидеть на встречных поездах"
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  4. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 15 October 2015 13: 50 New
    +7
    Worthily answered the villain.
  5. venaya
    venaya 15 October 2015 13: 50 New
    +8
    Poroshenko called the elections in the DPR and LPR "pseudo-elections"

    He doesn’t see logs in his eye, weirdo.
  6. Wolka
    Wolka 15 October 2015 13: 51 New
    +4
    what’s called not in the eyebrow, but in the eye ... bully
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 15 October 2015 13: 52 New
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    Poroshenko is afraid to sit with me at the negotiating table? Is it a shame to sit down at the negotiating table with the one whom you lost? But is it not a shame to bring your country to civil war and economic collapse? However, we are ready to consider the question of canceling the elections in the Donetsk People’s Republic on November 2, 2014. But on one condition. First, the election of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko in the spring and the elections to the Verkhovna Rada in the fall of 2014 should be canceled

    Bravo! Donetsk was not mistaken in choosing a leader. I believe miners will defeat banderlogs. good drinks wink yes laughing
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 15 October 2015 13: 56 New
      +6
      Кто знает,может это будущий президент Украины,когда нибудь народу надоест это "процветание".
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  9. sl22277
    sl22277 15 October 2015 13: 56 New
    +3
    The actions and frank delirium of Poros only lead to an increase in the degree of tension, and again it can lead to conflict. Obviously Poroshenko understands this, but all the same, how insane he stubbornly climbs into trouble.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 October 2015 14: 07 New
      +2
      Petya American puppet - says what they say to him
  10. Frigate
    Frigate 15 October 2015 13: 56 New
    +4
    Let the Donetsk and Lugansk authorities put forward demands that they will talk only with sober Poroshenko. smile
  11. gryaznov.igor.
    gryaznov.igor. 15 October 2015 13: 57 New
    17
    I think the truth of life
    1. Igor Polovodov
      Igor Polovodov 15 October 2015 14: 11 New
      +5
      the boar is better than Waltzemora! soulful!
  12. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 15 October 2015 13: 59 New
    +6
    Poroshenko ran into what he had to once. What, the State Department did not have time to compose a text? Zakharchenko respect!
    1. Frigate
      Frigate 15 October 2015 14: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: Tartar 174
      Poroshenko ran into what he had to once. What, the State Department did not have time to compose a text? Zakharchenko respect!
  13. manguest
    manguest 15 October 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    Piglets on the occasion of Nazi Day overloaded the brain with alcohol and carries all kinds of crap. Given that alcoholism causes many concomitant diseases, it should be more careful with drinks. However, it is not useful then his health is good.
  14. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 15 October 2015 14: 08 New
    +1
    For Poroshenko, ideally, again appoint his governor, as before Taruta and negotiate with him. wassat
  15. volodia.cutepov
    volodia.cutepov 15 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +1
    Russia is on the right track! Keep it up!
  16. parafoiler
    parafoiler 15 October 2015 14: 13 New
    +4
    Well done Zakharchenko, the words are not a boy, but a husband!
  17. EvgNik
    EvgNik 15 October 2015 14: 48 New
    +4
    Zakharchenko is apparently the most adequate and decent of all Ukrainian (and not only Ukrainian) politicians. And he doesn’t run away from the war (he was wounded). Thank you so much for all that he has done and continues to do. Maybe only thanks to such people we were not completely disappointed in Ukraine.
  18. roskot
    roskot 15 October 2015 14: 50 New
    +2
    No faith in Piglet. As they said - there is nowhere to put a lap on it. He lives in a different parallel world. And it is not treated.
    1. kizhe
      kizhe 15 October 2015 15: 28 New
      +1
      Не заплатку. Говорили:"Клейма ставить не куда".
  19. anderles66
    anderles66 15 October 2015 15: 02 New
    +3
    Well. Zakharchenko offset. The answer is both mocking and correct and accurate. If he came up with winked But it seems to me that myself.
  20. kizhe
    kizhe 15 October 2015 15: 32 New
    +2
    Порошенко бесполезно обзывать, обижать, клеймить. Про таких на Руси говорят: "Хоть ссы в глаза-всё божья роса".
  21. Balagan
    Balagan 15 October 2015 15: 44 New
    +3
    Such an adequate response to skaklam is normal!
  22. pts-m
    pts-m 15 October 2015 16: 29 New
    +1
    to the answer of Zakharchenko ... not to add not to diminish ... to the very point. with the experience of military operations comes the confidence and wisdom of statements ...
  23. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 October 2015 17: 43 New
    0
    Сеня, береги голову!"Российский адвокат рассказал о «подвигах» Яценюка в Чечне".
    “In this battle, I still remember the moment - the constant movement of Yatsenyuk from one firing point to another. Everyone there took a position, and he ran. Yatsenyuk had a military helmet on his head, she was still wrapped in something, either in a sweater, or something else, there was something else inside. He feared for his life, ”the document says.
    Original news InoTV:
    https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2015-10-15/Rossijskij-advokat-rasskazal-o-podvigah
  24. proletarian
    proletarian 15 October 2015 23: 51 New
    +1
    Ну что ж уважаемые,придется готовиться к новому обострению "укропсихоза";кто не понял до сих пор поясняю:Порошенко не может "продавить" только при помощи "своей" фракции в РАДЕ данный законопроект,а так называемая "коалиция"(точнее будет клоака) на грани распада радикалы(точнее неонацисты) явно проголосуют против,так как данный законопроект фактически "похоронит" их всех и даст максимальную полноту власти Порошенко,следовательно будет большая "буча".
  25. mamont5
    mamont5 16 October 2015 07: 15 New
    0
    Well done Zakharchenko! Shod Piglet well.