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In the US, a new version of the armored vehicle M-ATV

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At the AUSA 2015 exhibition in Washington, which ended in Washington, a prototype of the well-known M-ATV MRAP category developed by the American company Oshkosh was presented. bmpd.




The machine has a wheel formula 6х6 (standard version - 4х4) and an elongated armored hull.

It is reported that "the total combat weight of the M-ATV armored car in the 6 x6 variant is 42000 pounds (about 19,07 tons compared to the maximum 14,7 tons of the base machine) with a payload of 12000 pounds (5448 kg)." The stated capacity is up to 15 people.

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Oshkosh defense
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  2. ratfly
    ratfly 15 October 2015 13: 16 New
    +3
    We used to follow them, but now I look, they began to play in imitation!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 15 October 2015 13: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: ratfly
      We used to follow them, but now I look, they began to play in imitation!

      The Americans invented bad equipment. Almost 20 tons. How will they deliver ISIS to her? Toyota is simpler and easier. negative
      1. just exp
        just exp 15 October 2015 14: 32 New
        +3
        a igil not an igil, but to the Saudis they supplied them a lot, and a lot of them burned
        1. rumpeljschtizhen
          rumpeljschtizhen 15 October 2015 16: 03 New
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          a igil not an igil, but to the Saudis they supplied them a lot, and a lot of them burned

          However, the photo shows that the crew was not injured.
          But no, I'm sorry I read the news in it 3 died. (but I didn’t find more lined photos)
          1. just exp
            just exp 15 October 2015 19: 57 New
            -2
            but did not try to search? otherwise I entered the name of the car + Yemen, and then I selected the pictures, and you won’t believe it, a miracle happened, I found some photos






            He who seeks shall find.
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 15 October 2015 18: 13 New
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          Quote: just explo
          igil not igil, but the Saudis they supplied them a lot

          In South Yemen, an UAE Armed Forces M-ATV car was blown up by a makeshift explosive device, military-informant.com reports.
          It is reported that as a result of the blasting of an M-ATV armored vehicle belonging to the military contingent of the coalition of Arab countries, three members of the regular army were killed. A military vehicle near the village of Aden hit an improvised high-power explosive device, as a result of which the crew of the combat vehicle died.
          Quote: just explo
          and many of them burned

          Количество "погоревших" , на прямую зависит от фантазии авторов подобных заявлений hi
          1. just exp
            just exp 15 October 2015 20: 03 New
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            yes, sorry, temperature. a post above I laid out the fruit of my sick imagination, so if you suddenly see pokotshennye bugs in the photos, then you know that everything is wrong with your head, you see the imagination fruit of a sick person, that is, you see what is not there, which means you need urgently to a psychiatrist.
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 16 October 2015 20: 53 New
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              Quote: just explo
              , which means you urgently need a psychiatrist.

              You need a kind psychiatrist! You need to be calmer, not to rush at people with insults. Drink 500 grams of sedative, you look and feel better!
              1. just exp
                just exp 16 October 2015 21: 05 New
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                here miles sorry if touched, sometimes I get too sarcastic.
    2. Maxom75
      Maxom75 15 October 2015 14: 58 New
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      the trends are the same, but the execution is different. Only one thing bothers me, is the height of the conveyors no longer important? After all, the higher it is, the more noticeable and easier to hit. Or I'm wrong?
  3. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 15 October 2015 13: 19 New
    +8
    We have two options for the development of such armored vehicles:

    "Волк" 6х6:



    "Булат" 6х6:

    1. Engineer
      Engineer 15 October 2015 13: 28 New
      +2
      Damask steel is one-volume, but the modular Wolf to the point.
    2. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 15 October 2015 13: 29 New
      +5
      "Wolf-III" can be used as a platform for mounting weapons, various equipment and as a transport-combat or sanitary armored car.








      "Булат" может быть использован для монтажа аппаратуры, а так же как транспортно-боевой или санитарный бронеавтомобиль.





      1. Sukhoi
        Sukhoi 15 October 2015 13: 46 New
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        Damask steel, although made on the basis of Kamaz, is cramped. Hurry Wolf passed the test.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 15 October 2015 13: 56 New
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          Quote: Sukhoi
          Damask steel, although made on the basis of Kamaz, is cramped. Hurry Wolf passed the test.


          Я не случайно запостил фото "Булата" с поднятой крышей. Это новая модификация. Прежняя выглядела вот так:
          1. Sukhoi
            Sukhoi 15 October 2015 14: 37 New
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            Я не случайно запостил фото "Булата" с поднятой крышей. Это новая модификация.

            That the roof was lifted all right, but the width of the hull remained the same. The Wolf has a place for legs, and they shoved another row of seats (they unscrewed the route from the Gazelle). But at Bulat, perhaps squeezing sideways. At least in the photo this conclusion suggests itself.

            In any case, something I began to doubt that Typhoons would be widespread, especially in the form of armored personnel carriers. Such Wolves with Bulat are cheaper and more compact. The issue of equivalence of protection truth remains open.
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 15 October 2015 13: 49 New
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        "Волк-3" - автомобиль нового поколения, в нём много конструктивных новинок. Особенно в ходовой части и трансмиссии. Так же бронеавтомобиль "Волк-3" оборудован системой БИУС.










        "Булат", будет попроще, поскольку создан на базе серийного грузовика "КАМАЗ- 5350 «Мустанг» (6×6). А это значит что он более технологичен в серийном производстве, которое можно развернуть в более короткие сроки.



        In general, each of them has its pros and cons.
        1. orskpdc
          orskpdc 15 October 2015 14: 31 New
          +1
          let's compare the performance characteristics:
          M-ATV
          protection standard STANAG 4569 level 4a
          а у "ВОЛКА-3"-?
          1. Sukhoi
            Sukhoi 15 October 2015 20: 03 New
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            let's compare the performance characteristics:
            M-ATV
            protection standard STANAG 4569 level 4a
            а у "ВОЛКА-3"-?

            Wolf 3 level in accordance with STANAG 456. It is assumed that the car meets the requirements for armored wheeled vehicles of high security, which are classified in the Western classification as JLTV.
            He and Wolf are not classmates. Here Typhoons come into play.
      3. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 15 October 2015 13: 53 New
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        Quote: wanderer_032
        "Wolf-III" can be used as a platform for mounting weapons, various equipment and as a transport-combat or sanitary armored car.

        Is the Pat-B gun installed on the armored car?
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 15 October 2015 14: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          gun Pat-B


          Нет. Это самоходный вариант, буксируемого орудия 2Б16 "НОНА-К".


          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 15 October 2015 14: 07 New
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            As for the American, it was apparently designed taking into account the fact that the 4x4 option is not suitable for most tasks. Since it has a small usable internal volume and takes on board all 4-5 people.
            For one reconnaissance group, this is apparently a very expensive machine. smile Even for Americans.
            1. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 15 October 2015 14: 19 New
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              Похоже газовцы и "Защита" отхватят львиную долю в гособоронзаказе(ИМХО). Потому как платформа "Тайфун"(У/К) будет маловостребованной. Потому как дорогая очень. А так же и в размерах существенно больше. И стоит весьма дорого.

              А такие машины как "Волк-3" и "Булат", это то что нужно.(ИМХО)
              1. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 15 October 2015 14: 31 New
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                Photos used: Oshkosh Defense

                lol These are computer graphics. If anything.
                1. wanderer_032
                  wanderer_032 15 October 2015 14: 48 New
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                  Quote: wanderer_032
                  Photos used: Oshkosh Defense

                  lol These are computer graphics. If anything.


                  I looked at this link: http: //oshkoshdefense.com/ and there is nothing about this modification.

                  The bmpd blog, too. Divorce from the editors? wink
                  1. orskpdc
                    orskpdc 15 October 2015 16: 05 New
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                    here is the news
                    http://oshkoshdefense.com/news/oshkosh-defense-unveils-m-atv-6x6-and-advanced-dr
                    iver-assist-systems-at-ausa /
    3. just exp
      just exp 15 October 2015 14: 32 New
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      the American version has already been mass-produced for several years and exported; the Saudis burned a lot in Yemen, and ours didn’t go further than the prototypes.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 October 2015 14: 58 New
        +2
        10 thousand already M-ATV Oshkosh released since 2009.

        Броню для "ошкошей" запатентовала и поставляет, кстати, израильская фирма Plasan
        from the kibbutz (collective farm) of Sas for 100 families. Kibbutzniks became sickly dollar
        millionaires - and, each.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 15 October 2015 15: 02 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Броню для "ошкошей" запатентовала и поставляет, кстати, израильская фирма Plasan
          from the kibbutz (collective farm) Sasa to 100 families.


          And who was the most sensible there? Do not share information?
        2. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 15 October 2015 15: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Броню для "ошкошей" запатентовала и поставляет, кстати, израильская фирма Plasan
          from the kibbutz (collective farm) of Sas for 100 families. Kibbutzniks became sickly dollar
          millionaires - and, each.



          Это что ж такого гениального могли придумать в "колхозе из 100 семей" ? Броню из прессованных плиток из коровьего "священного" дер*ма ? laughing
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 15 October 2015 15: 30 New
            +3
            The idea to create on the territory was brilliant
            collective farm small laboratory and plant (rental
            zamli is free). And a few sensible engineers
            (со стороны, не киббуцников) открыли "старт-ап" и придумали
            high-quality metal-ceramic. armor. It was applied
            first in p. jeeps, and then they became interested in it
            the Americans ...
            1. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 16 October 2015 00: 54 New
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              Quote: voyaka uh
              And a few sensible engineers
              (со стороны, не киббуцников) открыли "старт-ап" и придумали
              high-quality metal-ceramic. armor.


              Well, okay. And where did these engineers come from?
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 15 October 2015 15: 01 New
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        Quote: just explo
        the American version has already been mass-produced for several years and exported; the Saudis burned a lot in Yemen, and ours didn’t go further than the prototypes.


        There is already a topic about the demand for such vehicles in the sun, comes in. How much they are needed there, which ones and in what quantities. Manufacturers of technology even tomorrow are ready to start producing them. But with the order for them from the Sun, somehow not very. The military themselves have not yet decided what they specifically need. So far, only small parties are procuring for experimental military operation. What will show itself better will be ordered.
  4. Denis DV
    Denis DV 15 October 2015 13: 21 New
    +1
    Hmm, something similar I already saw what
    1. i80186
      i80186 15 October 2015 13: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Denis DV
      Hmm, something similar I already saw

      Let me guess, maybe this? smile
      1. starhina01
        starhina01 15 October 2015 13: 55 New
        +1
        everything is new, it is well forgotten old. wink
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 15 October 2015 14: 08 New
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        Quote: i80186
        Let me guess, maybe this?


        This, this, and not quite that. wink
        1. i80186
          i80186 15 October 2015 15: 19 New
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          Quote: wanderer_032
          This, this, and not quite that.

          Roof welded or what? laughing
      3. mosquit
        mosquit 15 October 2015 17: 13 New
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        it's cheaper ...
  5. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 15 October 2015 13: 23 New
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    Does it matter that the wind does not flip?
  6. Dimsanych
    Dimsanych 15 October 2015 13: 27 New
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    what kind of module is he in the cargo compartment? A laser or some kind of noise or MKV generator
  7. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 15 October 2015 13: 46 New
    0
    It’s like an armored truck
  8. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 15 October 2015 14: 46 New
    +1
    In the US, a new version of the armored vehicle M-ATV
    As for me - a pretty nice truck. It seems that they want to use biaxial instead of Hammer?
  9. remy
    remy 15 October 2015 15: 11 New
    0
    straight auto-armored train! two turrets ...
    - reminds us of our armored trains from the 2nd MV
  10. mosquit
    mosquit 15 October 2015 17: 13 New
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    Почему у "них" всё так сложно... what
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 15 October 2015 18: 22 New
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      Quote: mosquit
      Почему у "них" всё так сложно...

      And what is EVERYTHING? Specifically possible?
  11. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 16 October 2015 00: 10 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    The idea to create on the territory was brilliant
    collective farm small laboratory and plant (rental
    zamli is free). And a few sensible engineers
    (со стороны, не киббуцников) открыли "старт-ап" и придумали
    high-quality metal-ceramic. armor. It was applied
    first in p. jeeps, and then they became interested in it
    the Americans ...


    Хм ... В СССР целые НИИ над такими вещами работали ... А тут "Маленькая лаборатория" recourse
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 October 2015 07: 53 New
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    There is also a TIGER 6x6, as well as its clone in the UAE Nimr6x6.