The work of the Mi-24 pilots in Syria delighted the Western media

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On the Internet, more and more videos appear showing the attacks of Russian Mi-24 helicopters on the position of the Islamists in Syria. Moreover, they are placed as supporters of the Russian operation, and its opponents. Experts interviewed by Foreign Polic magazine believe that the pilots who manage the combat helicopters demonstrate the highest level of professionalism.



Magazine, an article from which leads RIA News, notes that the pilots of the helicopters are exactly the Russian pilots, not the Syrian ones, who also mastered these machines long ago. This conclusion is made by the publication on the basis of the stories "close observers of the conflict, pointing to the high skill of the pilots", and also that "the helicopters used recently are newer versions of the Mi-24 than those that are in service with the Syrian Air Force."

A military expert interviewed by the magazine, US Navy veteran Christopher Harmer, said that "a video with two Mi-24s that fly so close to the ground and shoot rockets shows the highest degree of high qualification, the great courage of the crew of the Russian helicopter.

“If you see a high level of professionalism and airmanship, as well as the accuracy of the fire opened from a helicopter, then 100%, that they are Russian pilots. Since the Mi-24 combines heavy weapons with the transport fuselage, they can be used to transport units of Russian special operations to the front line. This, in turn, may allow Russian forces to focus on the direction of airstrikes, taking into account the data transmitted from the helicopter, and carry out direct missile strikes along the air-to-ground and ground-to-ground lines. ”, - he added.

The magazine also points out that “the Russian air operation allows Asad to solve one of the main problems in the military campaign, namely, to prevent large losses of infantry.”

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  1. +102
    15 October 2015 09: 16
    "Queen in admiration".
    Better not to hinder us from doing your work, "Western partners" .. Do not do the mean things for which you are a master.
    1. +84
      15 October 2015 09: 17
      Glory to the Russian riflemen (Afghanistan, the two Chechen and Georgian conflicts did not pass in vain) and honor the technical genius of this machine, hooray!))
      1. +115
        15 October 2015 09: 36
        If only we had such geniuses to revive the economy into a government, to replace mediocrity
        settled there. Russia is a country of talents and geniuses.
        1. +12
          15 October 2015 10: 26
          Plus, very well said. Everyone in his business should be a top-class professional, but alas, this is probably about some other government.
        2. +13
          15 October 2015 16: 34
          Quote: go21zd45few
          to replace mediocrity

          not mediocrity. To creatures and traitors
        3. +15
          15 October 2015 19: 22
          Tomorrow I will fall into battle again
          But I know for sure that I'll be back
          Even after a hundred centuries
          The country is not fools, but geniuses.
        4. +1
          15 October 2015 22: 48
          Quote: go21zd45few
          If only we had such geniuses to revive the economy into a government, to replace mediocrity
          settled there. Russia is a country of talents and geniuses.


          Georgy, not in the subject, today on the rambler there was information about the presentation of the order to the LADY "For Merit to the Fatherland" ..... hi
          1. +6
            15 October 2015 23: 54
            This means (popular omen) - soon to resign.
          2. +2
            16 October 2015 14: 32
            Vladimir, maybe you didn’t read it carefully, perhaps for the collapse of the fatherland. It’s time to send this bear back to the den to the taiga. In Russia, orders and medals have no value and are awarded by choice and desire, these are like badges in a kiosk of the press union, worse than the Brezhnev era.
            1. +1
              16 October 2015 17: 31
              In Alushta in June it was possible to buy the "Order of Stalin", but it somehow went to buy orders. When the series went to the kiosks, I bought everything, even the Order of the Red Banner of Azerbaijan and Armenia. Last year I made a stand of them in the city museum by May 9th. But real orders, with numbers ...
        5. +1
          16 October 2015 11: 02
          That's for sure.
        6. +2
          16 October 2015 17: 09
          Unfortunately, a genius in aviation is rarely a genius in governing a country. Moreover, in modern technology, the time of the genius of singles is over. One can recall the recent past: if it weren’t for Shpagin, the DShK would not have been, if not for Makarov, the PPSh would not have turned out so reliable. Modern Kalashnikov due to the technological processes developed by several technological institutes, is not at all like the modern AK-74. But the difference in the governance of the country we see on the example of the personalities of Nicholas II and Stalin, Yeltsin and Putin.
          1. 0
            16 October 2015 17: 59
            I mean geniuses in economics and finance.
        7. -7
          16 October 2015 19: 05
          ..... Yes, but the West will not praise such geniuses for sure!

          .... I wandered into the "Censor" -The data of the crew of the Russian Su-24M, which is bombing the Syrian cities, has been established .... I read it .... it became terrifying!
          su24m_kotoryyi_bombit_siriyiskie_goroda_informnapalm_fotoreportaj
          1. 0
            17 October 2015 18: 25
            .... I didn't understand, we have so many representatives of Ukraine and the natives from the Censor ... oh, they minus ... "7" why so few ... not 77 ... or I don't understand something, tell me pliz!
      2. +56
        15 October 2015 09: 46
        Quote: makst83
        Glory to the Russian riflemen (Afghanistan, the two Chechen and Georgian conflicts did not pass in vain) and honor the technical genius of this machine, hooray!))

        so not only they try)
        Caliber missiles bombed remnants of NATO authority
        1. +7
          15 October 2015 10: 45
          Thank you, "Lukich"!
          1. +4
            15 October 2015 16: 11
            Quote: morpod
            Thank you, "Lukich"!

            smile drinks
            1. +1
              16 October 2015 15: 32
              Cool video! Well done! good
      3. -3
        15 October 2015 17: 18
        Quote: makst83
        Glory to the Russian riflemen (Afghanistan, the two Chechen and Georgian conflicts did not pass in vain) and honor the technical genius of this machine, hooray!))

        What you wrote, I am both "FOR". But HOW DOES IT SOUND in your performance ??? Ordinary shapkozakidatelstvo and the result of the exam .. Slogans, but why? After all, this is understandable. "stars" wanted ?? So I'll put them to you, name the number in pluses, no problem. Well, how much is needed to meet the needs))) (((
        1. 0
          17 October 2015 01: 04
          I’ve cooled it well — I agree completely — it’s not worth it to rant so much that it’s a war and they kill people and kill our people — they are like fascists (ISIS), but not all fascists are many of them just lost sheep. As for me, many did not notice the even more important blow that we dealt - and this is a blow through the media and the Ummah - the GDP emphasized on this that the imams of all states in the region should make every effort to guide people on the right path, well, the media is about the same - this it is also very important - the Ummah is now very fragmented and many want its control and it is the unification of Muslims and the identification of outcasts and their guidance on the true path that will be the final and irrevocable victory. I believe that the war with the igil will end in the mountains of Syria, Irk, etc., etc. I think it will end in mosques around the planet, it is the spiritual education of people according to the Quran that will make the last and decisive blow to the fascist ideology of ISIS.
      4. +7
        15 October 2015 18: 28
        Oh dear, you forgot Karabakh, Tajikistan, Angola, Cuba ... and many other countries, our flyers were everywhere, and everywhere they were feared like devils am !
      5. 0
        16 October 2015 07: 40
        Why use MI, and not KA? for example Ka-50 or Ka-52 - why are they worse?
    2. +15
      15 October 2015 09: 18
      Quote: fzr1000

      Better don't let us do your work,


      Their job is just to save ISIS. With its help, topple Syria, Iran and send them against Russia. wink
      1. +40
        15 October 2015 09: 27
        They work professionally, approaching at low altitude clinging to the ground after launching NURSs even lower (you can see how the TL immediately falls to the ground after firing). This also suggests that our Flyers consider MANPADS as the main danger for themselves and not as non-small arms.
        Helicopter pilots and pilots SU-25, due to the specialization of their vehicles, must attack ground objects from altitudes less than 2,5 km, and almost all MANPADS take this altitude. If only the United States and the Saudito-Qatari people did not massively supply MANPADS of new generations from this abomination, alas, one has to wait sad
        1. +12
          15 October 2015 10: 14
          Quote: Now we are free
          I hope the VKS has worked out rescue programs (God forbid, pah-pah-pah) of the downed pilots. Given how we in Syria have stepped on the tail of the United States and the rest of the sponsors of world terrorism, they will go to ... if only to annoy Russia, and this must be prepared ...

          Of course have!! yesterday on the "star" showed such a system in action

          http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201503011641-cqdv.htm

          1. +1
            16 October 2015 17: 45
            Mi-17, not Mi -8.
        2. +6
          15 October 2015 10: 24
          I do not think that our pilots work without electronic warfare systems, and the turntables are most likely equipped with the latest developments in protection against Lever missiles - checking in combat conditions does not bother anyone

          1. +1
            16 October 2015 15: 41
            Yes. Since ours have declassified such protective weapons, it means that our military has even cooler weapons. what
    3. +9
      15 October 2015 09: 20
      Quote: fzr1000
      Better not to hinder us from doing your work, "Western partners" .. Do not do the mean things for which you are a master.

      What a naive appeal. Especially in light of the upcoming deliveries of Stinger MANPADS to Islamic radicals.
      1. +5
        15 October 2015 11: 42
        No naivety. Rather, it is a warning against rash steps to their "hawks" and puppets such as SA.
    4. +10
      15 October 2015 09: 21
      Now ISIS members will justify all their failures with these "hellish Russians" soldier
      1. +33
        15 October 2015 09: 31
        Yes, all the pilots work at the highest level of professionalism! And our turntables are just virtuosos! Risky men, but without this in any way ... God bless you! And most importantly, come back alive.
        1. +1
          15 October 2015 09: 49
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Yes, all the pilots work at the highest level of professionalism! And our turntables are just virtuosos! Risky men, but without this in any way ... God bless you! And most importantly, come back alive.

          Yeah, you know about risk. The smashing Banhammer was not afraid. Well, nothing, polite doctors look after you, you can take risks ...
      2. +11
        15 October 2015 09: 34
        The best Cuban military forces arrived in Syria to help Assad and Russia

        http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/14/cuban-military-forces-deployed-to-syria-

        to-operate-russian-tanks-say-sources /

        Source FoxNews .. So far no one has confirmed. But what the hell is not joking.

        The best Cuban military forces arrived in Syria to help Assad and Russia

        Russian transport aircraft delivered the Cuban military special forces to Syria, to fight against terrorists on the side of Assad, helping Russia.

        The Cuban chief of staff, General Leopoldo Sintra Frias, has also just arrived in Syria, who will head this military group to join forces with Russia in the fight against terrorists.
        1. +2
          15 October 2015 09: 45
          [img] http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/US/876/493
          /cubanarmy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1[/img]
          In the photo, the Cubans look decisive.
    5. 0
      15 October 2015 09: 55
      Well, these work during the day, but this one crashes at night wink
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-93l93eDQk
    6. +3
      15 October 2015 10: 10
      Quote: fzr1000
      Do not make the tricks that you are masters at.

      Well, this is unlikely ... More Nicholas 1 deigned to say: "The Englishwoman crap." He did not mean some "vulgar" English woman, but GB.
      1. 0
        15 October 2015 10: 56
        Quote: V.ic
        The work of the Mi-24 pilots in Syria delighted the Western media


        they want to jinx it ... now it means you need to be vigilant and not to show excessive folly unnecessarily!
        1. -4
          16 October 2015 07: 00
          And personally, I do not admire. Americans are considered stupid, but they have the main helicopter - the second generation - Apache. And the first - Cobra - remained only in the newsreel. We are still flying on the outdated first generation and for some reason we are proud of it. We could, like Americans with airplanes, jump through a generation, but the prototype of the third generation - the Ka-50 - was incompetently hacked to please Milevtsi.
          1. +2
            16 October 2015 09: 42
            Because both the cobra and the Apache are not very successful helicopters, they have good machines for half a century.
          2. +2
            16 October 2015 15: 48
            We have more modern helicopters, for example, the K-52, which is based on the famous "Shark" and is called "Alligator". In other words, why use more modern helicopters when the modernized MI-24 surpasses all sorts of American cobras and Apaches.
            1. 0
              16 October 2015 17: 05
              An-64 Apache so far, the best helicopter in the world for its combat capabilities. Proven in real conflicts. Tenders for the purchase in many countries are won for a reason. Our Mi-28N is an equal rival to him. But no one saw him in battle. It would be wise to do this in Syria. The use of Mi-24 in Syria now is due to its reliability and predictable result. He showed himself well in Afghanistan, because he could engage in landing groups and the removal of the wounded, while being an attack helicopter. But in Syria, it is essentially out of place. Its landing function is not used! But comparing it with Apache and saying that it is better is not correct!
              1. 0
                17 October 2015 10: 21
                This one of yours, the best in the world, gets off with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, it is lighter than the Mi-24 and Mi-28, carries fewer weapons, is worse protected and costs two and a half times more than the Mi-28.
    7. -1
      16 October 2015 02: 38
      Do not believe those who say that quitting smoking in a week is impossible. There is a special and really working technique that will save you from this addiction in a few days, here https://dmitrinosov.blogspot.ru link Itself could not quit for a very long time, but this time it really happened.
    8. xan
      0
      17 October 2015 13: 33
      Quote: fzr1000
      "Queen in admiration".

      Demonstration of high qualification of pilots is the so-called "soft power".
      It’s getting harder and harder for the hawks to set up the lochtorate for a confrontation with Russia, and the foreign fighters see and draw conclusions.
  2. +8
    15 October 2015 09: 16
    Our EAGLES will show more! good good good
    1. +20
      15 October 2015 09: 34
      Quote: Voha_krim
      Our EAGLES will show more! good good good

      sorry, but whatHungarian Air Force also participate? Your MI is from there. what
      1. +18
        15 October 2015 09: 38
        that’s for sure, is that ours don’t indulge in such crap. they take with us skill, not coloring.
      2. +1
        15 October 2015 23: 53
        Well, beautifully painted Christmas trees, let them think that our lol
    2. 0
      18 October 2015 05: 30
      Handsome man
      Quote: Voha_krim
      Our EAGLES will show more! good good good
  3. +4
    15 October 2015 09: 18
    This is not your NATO rats, they only know how to launch bombs and rockets from afar.
    1. +1
      16 October 2015 10: 55
      But at
      Quote: Wedmak
      These NATO rats

      combat losses are an order of magnitude smaller, because the life of a soldier is there in honor, and not like ours - women still give birth.
      1. +4
        16 October 2015 18: 11
        Quote: Basarev
        women still give birth.

        Actually, you need to know where this phrase came from, this is not the first time I am writing about it: This phrase from the play "Front" belongs to the negative hero of the play, General Gordov. In life, if someone said this in the army, he would lose his epaulettes. In "Memoirs and Reflections" Zhukov writes that when sending him to the Leningrad Front, Stalin said: "Take care of the people! We no longer have a superiority in population over Germany and its allies." Here you can recall Alexander II the Liberator, who said to Kutuzov: "I hand over my army to you ... I have no second." Do not follow the lead of the Khrushchev zho..lizov, liars from history, and do not transfer literary sayings to life.
  4. +7
    15 October 2015 09: 18
    "If Crocodiles fly then low low ...")) And if someone needs it !!!
  5. +1
    15 October 2015 09: 22
    and a couple of 28x arrived ... they like to fly at night ... feel
  6. +6
    15 October 2015 09: 26
    Well done! Grind skill in combat conditions! look and be afraid! angry
    1. +1
      15 October 2015 10: 58
      it is desirable to grind mastery without cameras the whiter the western
      1. -29
        15 October 2015 11: 01
        Today there was information that MI-28N helicopters arrived in Syria. Strengthen the air group. We are drawn into a conflict ... The best gift for the USA can not be imagined ...
        1. +4
          15 October 2015 16: 07
          It would be at least stupid, like the French in 1940, to try to sit out on the defensive. A gift from the United States would only be if it were they who pulled us into the fighting. In this case, this is our decision, meaningful and calculated on the lead.
        2. +6
          16 October 2015 09: 44
          To paraphrase the famous phrase: whoever does not want to fight in someone else's territory will fight in his own.
      2. +1
        16 October 2015 18: 20
        Quote: Amirbek
        it is desirable to grind mastery without cameras

        Oh, how wrong you are! When the first TB-3 appeared, the first squadron was sent to the Far East. At that time, Japan spoke openly and prepared to tear the Far East out of the USSR. Stalin gave the mission and the TB-3 squadron flew over the capital of Japan and dropped leaflets in Japanese. Japanese fighters tried to intercept the Soviet bombers and were unable to catch them. The preparation of aggression against the USSR is over. Let us recall the 1941 year when the vengeful Japanese refused to attack the USSR ... did not forgive them for signing the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, which was concluded during the battles at Khalkhin Gol. Let them look with their eyes wide open and understand that it is better not to wake the bear.
  7. +22
    15 October 2015 09: 28
    The campaign began to remember the world that the Russians are only called a peace-loving nation.
    And if we start to fight, then we do it wholeheartedly.
    And our soul is wide-eyed ...)))
    1. +6
      15 October 2015 11: 31
      A nehru bear wake up. Now it will not settle until frost.
      1. +1
        16 October 2015 18: 21
        Quote: kizhe
        Now it will not settle until frost.

        A connecting rod is a terrible thing.
  8. +10
    15 October 2015 09: 28
    Pride takes over our pilots.
  9. +8
    15 October 2015 09: 32
    Our pilots are great. Soviet + Russian school of flyers is not lost, and this is the key to success. The main thing is that the equipment was up to date, with the latest self-defense systems, and then no Stingers are scary. Good luck and clear skies.
  10. +16
    15 October 2015 09: 32
    Now compare the salary level of the manager in the State Monopoly (Rosneft, Gazprom, Russian Railways ...) and military pilots. INCOMPATIBLE! Everything should be the other way around! The manager is 59 thousand rubles and the pilot 50 thousand euros !!! Per month!
    1. +4
      15 October 2015 10: 03
      I think there are "fighting" normal.
      1. +7
        15 October 2015 13: 02
        I agree with you =)
        Immediately send managers to Syria... let the "combat" earn ... in the infantry ... on the front line !!!

        still, I'm an evil person ...
        1. +3
          15 October 2015 16: 44
          In the infantry from them, too, will not be of any use.
          Is it like that ....
          http://www.pravda.info/society/96593.html
  11. +4
    15 October 2015 09: 35
    Experts interviewed by Foreign Polic magazine believe that pilots operating helicopter helicopters demonstrate the highest level of professionalism.

    Thank you for that. And then from the west, except for dirt and horror stories, which is almost inaudible.
  12. +3
    15 October 2015 09: 36
    Such shots are better than any air show. Real combat use. I think now those who still doubted whose helicopters to purchase decided this question for themselves in our favor.
  13. +21
    15 October 2015 09: 36
    Not Syria, but the spirit freezes what "hooliganism" is doing ... good
    1. +4
      15 October 2015 09: 54
      Indeed, "fulyuganyo"! He is doing something unthinkable on a combat, not very light helicopter. Under the impression, I was waiting for the "barrel" to spin, a loop or an immelman ... good good good
      1. 0
        17 October 2015 04: 47
        Quote: Black Colonel
        Indeed, "fulyuganyo"! He does something unthinkable on a combat, not very light helicopter.

        I apologize.
        Compared with the way the Mi-24 crews flew in the 80. .. the impression that they are training a beginner. feel
        Sorry one more time.
    2. +19
      15 October 2015 10: 54
      Quote: MIKHAN
      but the spirit freezes

      There’s a general feeling. And this is on MI-8!
      1. +2
        15 October 2015 11: 42
        Yeah. Cool. At which school they taught dance.
      2. 0
        15 October 2015 13: 05
        Yes, it’s go local Peruvian Indians =) they also have to fly all the way between the mountains ... and even go and gobble what alkaloid-containing leaves - that’s why it turns in vain =)
      3. +5
        15 October 2015 17: 46
        I had a chance to somehow participate in the helicopter mounting of the cableway supports.
        A pin almost a ton in weight is put on the bolts on the first try.
        And this, for a minute, + -5cm is corrected and joined so far, the nuts are baited, it is necessary to hold still for a minute. Yes, the cable length with the support is about 50 meters ...

        Not that delight, just no words!
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      5. Oml
        0
        15 October 2015 18: 41
        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTYOwtepAc

        What about the sniper?
      6. Oml
        0
        16 October 2015 04: 04
        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTYOwtepAc

        What about the sniper?
    3. +6
      15 October 2015 12: 03
      Cheyt "hooliganism" wink sleight of hand and no "machination", and we also say "you won't drink skill"
      And if it's no joke, then good luck to the guys, and if suddenly the "enemies" all the same hurry up, an arrow in the eye of a speck, a small grain of sand, and that the hand trembled.
      God bless you guys!
      Already right back in the seat of the second-hand helicopter I wanted to look at the ground in the sight (although I didn’t promise)
      When I cut a haircut with the chef, asks "What's so low", I always answer: "I'm afraid to fly high, suddenly a rocket" wink lol laughing
      1. 0
        15 October 2015 15: 06
        Quote: jPilot
        and we also say "you can't drink skill"

        Damn, the video is not inserted, but I recommend it.
        http://yandex.ru/video/search?text=демонстрационные%20возможности%20ми-8&path=wi
        zard & filmId = 3FtXXW74UXI
        1. +1
          16 October 2015 18: 52
          Quote: gudgeon
          Damn, the video is not inserted,

          1. 0
            16 October 2015 19: 49
            Master of his craft.
    4. +1
      16 October 2015 18: 26
      MAZ - 500 tanker in the strip, that's cool! Soviet means excellent!
    5. 0
      17 October 2015 04: 44
      Why, back in the 1984 year, the standard maneuver was a dead loop supported by a screw, and a dive with a screw with the transition to a dive nose, exactly on target?
      --------
      Is it not necessary right now? Or have forgotten how?
  14. +4
    15 October 2015 09: 38
    Our pilots are the best and fearless that they once again proved and showed, and who doubted it was convinced of this more than once!)
  15. +12
    15 October 2015 09: 39
    By the way, I think that’s why they insist on a two-man crew for a helicopter. One should focus entirely on piloting, and the second to work with weapons. This is too complicated for one person, too many parameters must be controlled, and there are only two hands.
    1. +1
      15 October 2015 10: 42
      On the KA-50 they proved the opposite .. And in the 80s they did what can be done now and there’s nothing to say .. The truth is, in this case, you can forget about ordering MIL attack helicopters .. That's why the Ka-50 was eaten ..
      1. +11
        15 October 2015 10: 52
        Ka-50 only proved that it is possible. He has a very high percentage of automation, yes. But what will happen if part of the devices is damaged? Can the pilot pull out the car?
        Further: there was already an analysis and not one, Ka-50 is a machine for special operations. This is not a front-line helicopter. It will be difficult for one person to work on an advanced, saturated weapon, including MANPADS and anti-aircraft guns. No matter how armored he is, everything that can shoot will hit him. I did not notice the start, I did not have time to react - that's all.
        And two pairs of eyes and hands, as well as separation of duties, increase the chances of completing a task and leave whole.
        Ka-50 was eaten, but they gave birth to Ka-52, in my opinion the car is much more powerful and efficient.
    2. +7
      15 October 2015 11: 24
      The three of us flew in Karabbakh and Ossetia on Mi-24. Commander, operator and airborne. There was enough work for everyone.
    3. +3
      15 October 2015 11: 24
      The three of us flew in Karabbakh and Ossetia on Mi-24. Commander, operator and airborne. There was enough work for everyone.
  16. +4
    15 October 2015 09: 48
    In the video, the absence of DZ on Syrian tanks is depressing. And this is important.
  17. +2
    15 October 2015 09: 49
    Our hawks are the coolest pilots good
  18. +4
    15 October 2015 09: 51
    It is a pity that this "toilet" in Syria is being raked by the Russians, as in Vietnam, Angola, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc. Good luck, guys! drinks
  19. +5
    15 October 2015 09: 52
    mind you, more and more often begin to admire the achievements of our country and its people ... :)
    First let her arms, and then ...
    and then, beyond my doubt, and the economy! :)
    Why not believe it?
  20. +1
    15 October 2015 09: 52
    The experience of Afghanistan has clearly benefited. Yes, and constant exercises have increased the experience and coordination of the pilots!
  21. Hey
    +11
    15 October 2015 09: 54
    Why are helicopters flying so low in Syria?
    In my opinion there are a couple of reasons.
    1. When shooting at a low flying target at close range, a non-contact fuse does not have time to stand on a combat cockpit.
    2. In Syria during the day, high temperatures up to 40 gr. And the objects of the infrastructure and just stones in the open have an even higher temperature. And against their background, it’s easier to hide from MANPADS homing. Especially considering the measures taken to mask exhaust gases and the simultaneous use of heat traps.
    If wrong, refute or supplement. Just wondering.
    1. +11
      15 October 2015 10: 50
      Quote: MUD
      1. When shooting at a low flying target at close range, a non-contact fuse does not have time to stand on a combat cockpit.

      He "gets up" as he leaves the launch container.
      and if we are talking about the "Stinger" FIM-92 * ... it has a contact fuse (impact action).
      safety-executive mechanism, ensures the removal of the fuse protection stages already in phase 2: the second working position of the trigger (activation of the BAB)
      Quote: MUD
      2. In Syria during the day, high temperatures up to 40 gr. And the infrastructure objects and just

      - if again we are talking about "Stinger", then with the FIM-92B, the GOS works in the IR and ultraviolet (UV) spectrum
      rosette-like scanning, provides high selection capabilities of the target in the conditions of background noise and protection from means of counteracting the infrared range.
      40grS is not a hindrance, if the GOS "hits" the sun with an eye, it will be even greater.
      Simply:
      - guidance in azimuth and elevation is performed by the operator from his shoulder,the closer the aircraft to it, the higher the angular velocity (the operator is not an ABM, there is no electric drive, the waist is not a stranger), and the viewing sector in the sighting sight is limited
      - for the GOS to start working, it is necessary to activate the power supply and cooling unit.
      Autonomy of work 45s.
      The seeker has captured the target, a sound signal is turned on and the vibration device of the optical sight (against which the shooter is pressed with his cheek) warns of target acquisition. The gyroscope is unloaded. Argon is "consumed" BAB can work 19C.
      The lead angles are made by the shooter himself ...
      And?
      The target disappeared behind a building, or beyond the "horizon" or a stall.
      start over.
      It is relatively easy to shoot from the bottom up, or from the mountains, the slope on the aircraft flying in the gorge.
      1. +2
        15 October 2015 12: 12
        GOS works in the IR and ultraviolet (UV) spectrum


        Dear, I clarify, a UV filter that eliminates possible false targets and the solar factor. As if by UV it is not induced.
        1. 0
          15 October 2015 20: 12
          Quote: Asadullah
          Dear, I’ll clarify

          dear, explain
          FIM-92B, Stinger POST: In this version, the infrared seeker head was replaced by a combined IR / UV seeker that utilized rosette scanning. This resulted in achieving significantly higher resistance to enemy countermeasures (Flares) and natural disturbances. Production ran from 1981 to 1987, a total of 600 missiles were produced

          SAM FIM-92B equipped dual band GOS operating in the infrared and ultraviolet ranges wavelengths.
    2. +5
      15 October 2015 11: 59
      And the objects of the infrastructure and just stones in the open have an even higher temperature. And against their background, it’s easier to hide from MANPADS homing. Especially considering the measures taken to mask exhaust gases and the simultaneous use of heat traps.


      The first is the most working. In the second, I will slightly correct and add. Aluminum heated by such energies cannot be hidden against the "background" of heated stones and buildings, the temperature difference is too great. But using the terrain, when you have to shoot almost horizontally, is highly recommended. Buildings, working equipment, fires, ruptures interfere. MANPADS in such a field does not work. Note that heat traps are fired when they reach a higher echelon for a turn. It is possible to hit the board by other means, but it can be done by a very experienced and cold-blooded person. Usually such, in addition, very smart, that would hunt for a crocodile working in a group. Rats in Syria begin to run through holes when they are attacked, they dived into one hole from another and emerged. And where they surfaced, they try not to reveal themselves. Much depends on chance in such a battle. Someone in horror, in hysterics fired into the white light, damn it, suddenly hit.
      1. +1
        15 October 2015 12: 19
        Quote: Asadullah
        The first is the most working.

        not working.
        Stinger has a contact fuse, shock
        Arrow's contact target sensor (magnetic induction generator)
        at the Needle, the truth is an induction sensor (vortex generator), providing undermining of warheads when passing a rocket near metal plating target.
        But all the same, it’s not the essence: everywhere, the safety-detonating device serves to ensure the safety of the missile until it is cocked after the launch of the rocket.
        the rocket left TPK,second stage remote control-removed(the first is removed by pulling the trigger in position 2)
        Quote: Asadullah
        MANPADS in this field does not work.

        MANPADS of generation 2 work fine even when the target is m / a shooter and the sun.

        GOS with deep cooling to a temperature of -200 ° C ensures the performance of the complex when firing at catch-up courses in any background situations;
        The wavelengths of the infrared receiver of the GOS are calculated somewhat at a different temperature of the radiating body
        1. +2
          15 October 2015 12: 38
          GOS with deep cooling to a temperature of -200 ° C ensures the operability of the complex when firing at catch-up courses in any background situations;
          The wavelengths of the infrared receiver of the GOS are calculated somewhat at a different temperature of the radiating body


          Theoretically, I had hardly heard of lesions in horizontal mode. Yes, I agree, today they measure the temperature of the target, but they work effectively on objects on the ground. In Yugoslavia, rockets with Achea successfully hit a burning barrel with rags soaked in diesel fuel, that is, the thermal background, it can be very unusual, like its spectrum. hi
  22. +2
    15 October 2015 09: 58
    Sin, of course, to speak, but a helicopter carrier with a serious strike group off the coast of Syria would not hurt. Of course, not Mistral, but something of his own. Pieces for 20 Ka 52. It would have greatly contributed.
    1. +1
      15 October 2015 10: 14
      Pieces on 20-Ka 52


      And by the way, why not see Ka 52?
  23. 0
    15 October 2015 10: 01
    based on the stories of "close observers of the conflict, indicating a high skill pilots"
    "Video with two Mi-24, which fly so close to the ground and shoot rockets, demonstrates the highest degree of high qualification, the great courage of the crew of the Russian helicopter."


    I think the Ukrainian media will soon disprove all this ...
    Jackals feather ... they are such ..
  24. +3
    15 October 2015 10: 02
    No wonder they joke that when discipline was introduced in the Army, aviation was in the air. And now these "hooligans", guys "tear it and throw it away" give * editions to any protester, be you even homo, even aphid! ...
    Well done boys! Our pride!
  25. 0
    15 October 2015 10: 03
    Not everything is so rosy guys. I watched all the videos from there and I can say that there is something else to hone. There are many "childish" mistakes, especially on the combat course. I hope there is someone to fix it. The hole has definitely been picked up.
  26. -1
    15 October 2015 10: 04
    "Video with two Mi-24, which fly so close to the ground and shoot rockets, demonstrates the highest degree of high qualification, the great courage of the crew of the Russian helicopter."


    Will there be a movie ???

    Or unformat?

    Computer fly? soldier
  27. +3
    15 October 2015 10: 19
    Beauties !!! Just come back alive! WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU!!
    PS FORKS FOR MATTRESSES !!!
  28. +1
    15 October 2015 10: 29
    who is the coach of these synchronists, go to gold!)
  29. +2
    15 October 2015 10: 33
    "... the combat helicopter pilots demonstrate the highest level of professionalism ..."

    Let Westerners look and fear. Friends and allies let them learn. Well done guys. Praise and respect.
  30. 0
    15 October 2015 10: 36
    highest qualification! courageous guys! risk but work!
  31. +2
    15 October 2015 10: 47
    The key word is courage, knowing how Islamists treat prisoners of war.

    Heat traps are fired in manual mode, or in automatic?


    If in automatic, it turns out that the electronics captures the capture of a helicopter by rockets? Knowledgeable people, dedicate the dark ...
    1. +3
      17 October 2015 23: 53
      There is a manual mode and an automatic machine, but not in the form as you expect. On Su25, it turns on automatically when you click on bk. Now on Sushki 30,35,34 the on-board computer monitors radiation and automatically selects a countermeasure complex, but there is always a manual mode.
  32. +6
    15 October 2015 10: 58
    there is still video

  33. +1
    15 October 2015 11: 11
    And how the "crocodile" admires ISIS! laughing
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 15: 13
      DIRECT VERSES ...
  34. +2
    15 October 2015 11: 20
    Quote: screw cutter
    I think there are "fighting" normal.

    Probably. It was we who, in the middle of the 90's, lined up in Chechnya in order to at least pay the debt.
  35. 0
    15 October 2015 11: 34
    and they thought the guys from the kindergarten would fly to them?
  36. +1
    15 October 2015 11: 44

    “If you see a high level of professionalism and flying skills, as well as the accuracy of fire opened from a helicopter, then 100% that these are Russian pilots. Since the Mi-24 combines heavy weapons with a transport fuselage, they can be used to transport Russian special operations units to the front line.


    Offend, boss! Do you sew an occupation again?

    Well, okay, let the Russian pilots, it is clear, but the "Russian special operations units" are too much!

    Mi-24 what, the Syrian military does not accept what?
  37. 0
    15 October 2015 11: 49
    What can be added here. The soul freezes. Well done flyers.
  38. +1
    15 October 2015 12: 33
    that's what, although the crocodiles have worked nicely, but the "mikkimauses" will come, they will definitely show the adversaries "air cancan", that's what I see in Gravyany pretzel flyers write out on a low-level flight ...
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 22: 27
      Something did not notice much activity in Travyanka. hi
      They are in the Kurgan side go whether
  39. +1
    15 October 2015 13: 00
    Quote: belroni
    Quote: screw cutter
    I think there are "fighting" normal.

    Probably. It was we who, in the middle of the 90's, lined up in Chechnya in order to at least pay the debt.

    In 2000, they paid 25000 salaries and field pay, and this was the infantry.
  40. +3
    15 October 2015 14: 07
    LITERALLY "iron" - to crawl on the belly for several passes under aimed fire from automatic weapons almost point-blank. What nerves you have to have and faith in technology! Gives you goose bumps!
    See pictures of turntables after sorties.
  41. 0
    15 October 2015 14: 10
    Volka! From Kamensk or what? Why shouldn't there be our specialists? Developing skills is not superfluous, and then familiarization with the enemy in a combat situation will be beneficial. Experience has not stopped anyone.
  42. 0
    15 October 2015 14: 44
    Quote: Orel
    Today there was information that MI-28N helicopters arrived in Syria. Strengthen the air group. We are drawn into a conflict ... The best gift for the USA can not be imagined ...

    Let's figure it out somehow!
  43. +2
    15 October 2015 15: 53
    Quote: Avis24
    Not everything is so rosy guys. I watched all the videos from there and I can say that there is something else to hone. There are many "childish" mistakes, especially on the combat course. I hope there is someone to fix it. The hole has definitely been picked up.


    Judging by the English flag above your head Avis24 - Something you can't see the American video, where "the brave guys of the most exclusive country in the world" correctly and with a high level of professionalism kill IS militants. Quite the contrary, the American guys are dropping humanitarian aid in the form of 50 tons of weapons and ammunition to ISIS, so that they would continue to actively cut the heads of the Syrian state's servicemen. We are aware of the excavators and the hospital, and about the CIA agents who were allegedly destroyed.
  44. 0
    15 October 2015 16: 03
    Yes they work well, what can I say!
  45. 0
    15 October 2015 17: 15
    If the Stingers would be there. The helicopter should quietly approach, shoot back and leave.
  46. +1
    15 October 2015 18: 10
    dear helicopter pilots, just go home!
  47. +1
    15 October 2015 21: 21
    I watched the video "Attack of Mi-24 on the Islamists entrenched in the Syrian city of Kafr Nabuda" on the big screen at a slow speed. Found six launches of MANPADS missiles from the ground. In one place, you can see how the rocket jumped aside after firing off the heat traps. Obviously, more missiles were fired, but the quality of the shooting was such that it was not possible to consider.

    In that case, what we have. On crocodiles they shoot from the ground, almost continuously, but they work calmly, without fuss. Moreover, the pilots do not pay attention to MANPADS, completely relying on automatic protection. And having spent ammunition fly away, without loss.

    And we also have that America was the first to use attack helicopters in Vietnam. Now, due to the development of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS), NATO has refused to use them. And here, military experts can see the work of Russian military technologies in real conditions. I think it would be more correct to talk not about admiration, but about other feelings.
  48. +1
    16 October 2015 10: 35
    Our just done! Designers are what they come up with and embody.
    Factory workers - what they can do.
    Staff officers - that they know how to apply.
    Pilots - that they know how to use to the fullest.
  49. 0
    16 October 2015 10: 48
    Hey. Here on the site in the group https://vk.com/online_games_mmorpg_88 many of the most popular online games are described.
    If you like the game, you can immediately register
    and try out the toy.
  50. +1
    16 October 2015 14: 13
    Brazenly work. Well done.

    Not impudently, comrades, but impudent! Exactly bold! There is such a concept of superiority in military affairs. These are the people who raise the prestige of the military profession. Remember - "There is such a profession, a squadron commander to defend the Motherland!"?
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  52. 0
    17 October 2015 17: 46
    Quote: go21zd45few
    If only we had such geniuses to revive the economy into a government, to replace mediocrity
    settled there

    Yes, this need has long been overdue. The economic liberal course is destroying Russia. It is necessary to change the liberal monetary course to a scientifically based course that ensures the lowest costs for achieving set goals, technical re-equipment of enterprises and scientific industries and respecting social justice in wages. I don't care what color the cat is, as long as it catches mice. It's high time to move away from all isms. The good thing is that it ensures the progressive development of science and the growth of people’s spiritual and material incomes.
  53. 0
    17 October 2015 20: 04
    I saw the turntable on Panjshir burning. The guys were lucky that there was no serious opposition. Somehow it seems to me that such luck will not last long.
  54. 0
    17 October 2015 22: 47
    Test, just a test
  55. 0
    17 October 2015 22: 49
    Test, just a test
  56. justinezy2
    0
    18 October 2015 03: 27
    Test, just a test
  57. freidahq18
    0
    18 October 2015 04: 13
    Test, just a test
  58. 0
    18 October 2015 11: 33
    We have several wars behind us in which our turntables were used... so we know how to fight

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