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The work of the Mi-24 pilots in Syria delighted the Western media

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On the Internet, more and more videos appear showing the attacks of Russian Mi-24 helicopters on the position of the Islamists in Syria. Moreover, they are placed as supporters of the Russian operation, and its opponents. Experts interviewed by Foreign Polic magazine believe that the pilots who manage the combat helicopters demonstrate the highest level of professionalism.




Magazine, an article from which leads RIA News, notes that the pilots of the helicopters are exactly the Russian pilots, not the Syrian ones, who also mastered these machines long ago. This conclusion is made by the publication on the basis of the stories "close observers of the conflict, pointing to the high skill of the pilots", and also that "the helicopters used recently are newer versions of the Mi-24 than those that are in service with the Syrian Air Force."

A military expert interviewed by the magazine, US Navy veteran Christopher Harmer, said that "a video with two Mi-24s that fly so close to the ground and shoot rockets shows the highest degree of high qualification, the great courage of the crew of the Russian helicopter.

“If you see a high level of professionalism and airmanship, as well as the accuracy of the fire opened from a helicopter, then 100%, that they are Russian pilots. Since the Mi-24 combines heavy weapons with the transport fuselage, they can be used to transport units of Russian special operations to the front line. This, in turn, may allow Russian forces to focus on the direction of airstrikes, taking into account the data transmitted from the helicopter, and carry out direct missile strikes along the air-to-ground and ground-to-ground lines. ”, - he added.

The magazine also points out that “the Russian air operation allows Asad to solve one of the main problems in the military campaign, namely, to prevent large losses of infantry.”

Photos used:
RIA News. Dmitry Vinogradov
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 15 October 2015 09: 16 New
    102
    "Королева в восхищении".
    Лучше не мешайте нам делать вашу работу, " западные партнеры".. Не делайте подлянок, на которые вы мастера.
    1. makst83
      makst83 15 October 2015 09: 17 New
      84
      Glory to the Russian riflemen (Afghanistan, the two Chechen and Georgian conflicts did not pass in vain) and honor the technical genius of this machine, hooray!))
      1. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 15 October 2015 09: 36 New
        115
        If only we had such geniuses to revive the economy into a government, to replace mediocrity
        settled there. Russia is a country of talents and geniuses.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 15 October 2015 10: 26 New
          12
          Plus, very well said. Everyone in his business should be a top-class professional, but alas, this is probably about some other government.
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 15 October 2015 16: 34 New
          13
          Quote: go21zd45few
          to replace mediocrity

          not mediocrity. To creatures and traitors
        3. diz1975
          diz1975 15 October 2015 19: 22 New
          15
          Tomorrow I will fall into battle again
          But I know for sure that I'll be back
          Even after a hundred centuries
          The country is not fools, but geniuses.
        4. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 15 October 2015 22: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: go21zd45few
          If only we had such geniuses to revive the economy into a government, to replace mediocrity
          settled there. Russia is a country of talents and geniuses.


          Георгий, не в тему, сегодня на рамблере была информацмя о вручении ДАМе ордена "За заслуге перед Отечеством"..... hi
          1. bannik
            bannik 15 October 2015 23: 54 New
            +6
            This means (popular omen) - soon to resign.
          2. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 16 October 2015 14: 32 New
            +2
            Vladimir, maybe you didn’t read it carefully, perhaps for the collapse of the fatherland. It’s time to send this bear back to the den to the taiga. In Russia, orders and medals have no value and are awarded by choice and desire, these are like badges in a kiosk of the press union, worse than the Brezhnev era.
            1. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 17: 31 New
              +1
              В Алуште в июне месяце можно было купить "Орден Сталина", но пошло это как-то покупать ордена. Вот когда пошла серия в киосках, то всю выкупил, даже Ордена Красного Знамени Азербайджанской и Армянской. В прошлом году из них сделал стенд в городском музее к 9 мая. Но настоящие ордена, с номерами...
        5. NordUral
          NordUral 16 October 2015 11: 02 New
          +1
          That's for sure.
        6. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 17: 09 New
          +2
          Unfortunately, a genius in aviation is rarely a genius in governing a country. Moreover, in modern technology, the time of the genius of singles is over. One can recall the recent past: if it weren’t for Shpagin, the DShK would not have been, if not for Makarov, the PPSh would not have turned out so reliable. Modern Kalashnikov due to the technological processes developed by several technological institutes, is not at all like the modern AK-74. But the difference in the governance of the country we see on the example of the personalities of Nicholas II and Stalin, Yeltsin and Putin.
          1. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 16 October 2015 17: 59 New
            0
            I mean geniuses in economics and finance.
        7. Shpagolom
          Shpagolom 16 October 2015 19: 05 New
          -7
          ..... Yes, but the West will not praise such geniuses for sure!

          ....Забрел на "Цензор" -Установлены данные экипажа российского Су-24М, который бомбит сирийские города....прочел....жутко стало !http://censor.net.ua/photo_news/356108/ustanovleny_dannye_ekipaja_rossiyiskogo_
          su24m_kotoryyi_bombit_siriyiskie_goroda_informnapalm_fotoreportaj
          1. Shpagolom
            Shpagolom 17 October 2015 18: 25 New
            0
            ....я не понял,у нас так много представителей Украины и аборигены с Цензора...ой заминусили..."7" а почему так мало...не 77 ...или я чего то не понимаю,ответьте мне плиз!
      2. Lukich
        Lukich 15 October 2015 09: 46 New
        56
        Quote: makst83
        Glory to the Russian riflemen (Afghanistan, the two Chechen and Georgian conflicts did not pass in vain) and honor the technical genius of this machine, hooray!))

        so not only they try)
        Caliber missiles bombed remnants of NATO authority
        1. lecturer
          lecturer 15 October 2015 10: 45 New
          +7
          Спасибо, "ЛукичЪ"!
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 15 October 2015 16: 11 New
            +4
            Quote: morpod
            Спасибо, "ЛукичЪ"!

            smile drinks
            1. Simon
              Simon 16 October 2015 15: 32 New
              +1
              Cool video! Well done! good
      3. exalex2
        exalex2 15 October 2015 17: 18 New
        -3
        Quote: makst83
        Glory to the Russian riflemen (Afghanistan, the two Chechen and Georgian conflicts did not pass in vain) and honor the technical genius of this machine, hooray!))

        То что Вы написали, я двумя руками "ЗА". Но КАК ЭТО ЗВУЧИТ в Вашем исполнении ??? Обыкновенное шапкозакидательство и результат ЕГЭ..Лозунги, а зачем? Ведь это и так понятно. "звёздочек" захотелось?? Так я Вам их поставлю, назовите цифру в плюсах, проблем нет. Ну так сколько надо для удовлетворения потребностей ))) (((
        1. Yarhann
          Yarhann 17 October 2015 01: 04 New
          0
          I’ve cooled it well — I agree completely — it’s not worth it to rant so much that it’s a war and they kill people and kill our people — they are like fascists (ISIS), but not all fascists are many of them just lost sheep. As for me, many did not notice the even more important blow that we dealt - and this is a blow through the media and the Ummah - the GDP emphasized on this that the imams of all states in the region should make every effort to guide people on the right path, well, the media is about the same - this it is also very important - the Ummah is now very fragmented and many want its control and it is the unification of Muslims and the identification of outcasts and their guidance on the true path that will be the final and irrevocable victory. I believe that the war with the igil will end in the mountains of Syria, Irk, etc., etc. I think it will end in mosques around the planet, it is the spiritual education of people according to the Quran that will make the last and decisive blow to the fascist ideology of ISIS.
      4. igorka357
        igorka357 15 October 2015 18: 28 New
        +7
        Oh dear, you forgot Karabakh, Tajikistan, Angola, Cuba ... and many other countries, our flyers were everywhere, and everywhere they were feared like devils am !
      5. Archon
        Archon 16 October 2015 07: 40 New
        0
        Why use MI, and not KA? for example Ka-50 or Ka-52 - why are they worse?
    2. Frigate
      Frigate 15 October 2015 09: 18 New
      15
      Quote: fzr1000

      Better don't let us do your work,


      Their job is just to save ISIS. With its help, topple Syria, Iran and send them against Russia. wink
      1. Now we are free
        Now we are free 15 October 2015 09: 27 New
        40
        They work professionally, approaching at low altitude clinging to the ground after launching NURSs even lower (you can see how the TL immediately falls to the ground after firing). This also suggests that our Flyers consider MANPADS as the main danger for themselves and not as non-small arms.
        Helicopter pilots and pilots SU-25, due to the specialization of their vehicles, must attack ground objects from altitudes less than 2,5 km, and almost all MANPADS take this altitude. If only the United States and the Saudito-Qatari people did not massively supply MANPADS of new generations from this abomination, alas, one has to wait sad
        1. Constructor1
          Constructor1 15 October 2015 10: 14 New
          12
          Quote: Now we are free
          I hope the VKS has worked out rescue programs (God forbid, pah-pah-pah) of the downed pilots. Given how we in Syria have stepped on the tail of the United States and the rest of the sponsors of world terrorism, they will go to ... if only to annoy Russia, and this must be prepared ...

          Конечно есть!! вчера по "звезде" показывали такую систему в действии

          http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201503011641-cqdv.htm

          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 17: 45 New
            +1
            Mi-17, not Mi -8.
        2. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 15 October 2015 10: 24 New
          +6
          не думаю, что наши летчики работают без систем РЭБ, да и на вертушках скорей всего установлены последние разработки по защите от ракет типа "Рычаг - проверка в боевых условиях никому не мешает

          1. Simon
            Simon 16 October 2015 15: 41 New
            +1
            Yes. Since ours have declassified such protective weapons, it means that our military has even cooler weapons. what
    3. Penetrator
      Penetrator 15 October 2015 09: 20 New
      +9
      Quote: fzr1000
      Лучше не мешайте нам делать вашу работу, " западные партнеры".. Не делайте подлянок, на которые вы мастера.

      Какое наивное обращение. Особенно в свете грядущих поставок ПЗРК "Стингер" исламским радикалам.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 15 October 2015 11: 42 New
        +5
        Никакой наивности. Это, скорее, предостережение от необдуманных шагов их "ястребам" и марионеткам типа СА.
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 15 October 2015 09: 21 New
      10
      Сейчас все свои неудачи игиловцы будут оправдывать этими "ацкими русскими" soldier
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 15 October 2015 09: 31 New
        33
        Yes, all the pilots work at the highest level of professionalism! And our turntables are just virtuosos! Risky men, but without this in any way ... God bless you! And most importantly, come back alive.
        1. evfrat
          evfrat 15 October 2015 09: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Yes, all the pilots work at the highest level of professionalism! And our turntables are just virtuosos! Risky men, but without this in any way ... God bless you! And most importantly, come back alive.

          Yeah, you know about risk. The smashing Banhammer was not afraid. Well, nothing, polite doctors look after you, you can take risks ...
      2. Bombardier
        Bombardier 15 October 2015 09: 34 New
        11
        The best Cuban military forces arrived in Syria to help Assad and Russia

        http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/14/cuban-military-forces-deployed-to-syria-

        to-operate-russian-tanks-say-sources /

        Source FoxNews .. So far no one has confirmed. But what the hell is not joking.

        The best Cuban military forces arrived in Syria to help Assad and Russia

        Russian transport aircraft delivered the Cuban military special forces to Syria, to fight against terrorists on the side of Assad, helping Russia.

        The Cuban chief of staff, General Leopoldo Sintra Frias, has also just arrived in Syria, who will head this military group to join forces with Russia in the fight against terrorists.
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 15 October 2015 09: 45 New
          +2
          [img] http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/US/876/493
          /cubanarmy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1[/img]
          In the photo, the Cubans look decisive.
    5. Petr1
      Petr1 15 October 2015 09: 55 New
      0
      Well, these work during the day, but this one crashes at night wink
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-93l93eDQk
    6. V.ic
      V.ic 15 October 2015 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: fzr1000
      Do not make the tricks that you are masters at.

      Ну, это вряд ли... Ещё Николай 1 соизволил произнести: "англичанка гадит". Он имел в виду не какую-нибудь "пошлую" аглицкую бабёнку, а именно GB.
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 15 October 2015 10: 56 New
        0
        Quote: V.ic
        The work of the Mi-24 pilots in Syria delighted the Western media


        they want to jinx it ... now it means you need to be vigilant and not to show excessive folly unnecessarily!
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 16 October 2015 07: 00 New
          -4
          And personally, I do not admire. Americans are considered stupid, but they have the main helicopter - the second generation - Apache. And the first - Cobra - remained only in the newsreel. We are still flying on the outdated first generation and for some reason we are proud of it. We could, like Americans with airplanes, jump through a generation, but the prototype of the third generation - the Ka-50 - was incompetently hacked to please Milevtsi.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 16 October 2015 09: 42 New
            +2
            Because both the cobra and the Apache are not very successful helicopters, they have good machines for half a century.
          2. Simon
            Simon 16 October 2015 15: 48 New
            +2
            Есть у нас вертолеты более современные, например К-52, который выполнен на базе знаменитой "Акулы" и называется "Аллигатор". В прочем, зачем употреблять более современные вертолеты, когда модернизированные МИ-24 превосходят американские всякие кобры и апачи.
            1. Shmal_
              Shmal_ 16 October 2015 17: 05 New
              0
              An-64 Apache so far, the best helicopter in the world for its combat capabilities. Proven in real conflicts. Tenders for the purchase in many countries are won for a reason. Our Mi-28N is an equal rival to him. But no one saw him in battle. It would be wise to do this in Syria. The use of Mi-24 in Syria now is due to its reliability and predictable result. He showed himself well in Afghanistan, because he could engage in landing groups and the removal of the wounded, while being an attack helicopter. But in Syria, it is essentially out of place. Its landing function is not used! But comparing it with Apache and saying that it is better is not correct!
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 17 October 2015 10: 21 New
                0
                This one of yours, the best in the world, gets off with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, it is lighter than the Mi-24 and Mi-28, carries fewer weapons, is worse protected and costs two and a half times more than the Mi-28.
    7. Oleg552
      Oleg552 16 October 2015 02: 38 New
      -1
      Do not believe those who say that quitting smoking in a week is impossible. There is a special and really working technique that will save you from this addiction in a few days, here https://dmitrinosov.blogspot.ru link Itself could not quit for a very long time, but this time it really happened.
    8. xan
      xan 17 October 2015 13: 33 New
      0
      Quote: fzr1000
      "Королева в восхищении".

      Демонстрация высокой квалификации пилотов - это так называемая "мягкая сила".
      It’s getting harder and harder for the hawks to set up the lochtorate for a confrontation with Russia, and the foreign fighters see and draw conclusions.
  2. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 15 October 2015 09: 16 New
    +8
    Our EAGLES will show more! good good good
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 09: 34 New
      20
      Quote: Voha_krim
      Our EAGLES will show more! good good good

      sorry, but whatHungarian Air Force also participate? Your MI is from there. what
      1. just exp
        just exp 15 October 2015 09: 38 New
        18
        that’s for sure, is that ours don’t indulge in such crap. they take with us skill, not coloring.
      2. serg2108
        serg2108 15 October 2015 23: 53 New
        +1
        Well, beautifully painted Christmas trees, let them think that our lol
    2. bos83bos
      bos83bos 18 October 2015 05: 30 New
      0
      Handsome man
      Quote: Voha_krim
      Our EAGLES will show more! good good good
  3. Wedmak
    Wedmak 15 October 2015 09: 18 New
    +4
    This is not your NATO rats, they only know how to launch bombs and rockets from afar.
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 16 October 2015 10: 55 New
      +1
      But at
      Quote: Wedmak
      These NATO rats

      combat losses are an order of magnitude smaller, because the life of a soldier is there in honor, and not like ours - women still give birth.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 18: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: Basarev
        women still give birth.

        Вообще то надо знать откуда пошла эта фраза, уже не первый раз об этом пишу: Эта фраза из спектакля "Фронт" и принадлежит отрицательному герою пьесы генералу Гордову. В жизни, если бы кто сказал такое в армии, лишился бы погон. В "Воспоминаниях и размышлениях" Жуков пишет, что посылая его на Ленинградский фронт, Сталин сказал: "Берегите людей! У нас больше нет превосходства в населении перед Германией и её союзниками". Здесь можно вспомнить Александра II Освободителя, который сказал Кутузову: "Вручаю вам свою армию...второй у меня нет". Не идите на поводу у Хрущёвских жо..лизов, врунов от истории и не переносите литературные изречения в жизнь.
  4. TARAS BULBA
    TARAS BULBA 15 October 2015 09: 18 New
    +7
    "Если Крокодилы летають то низенько низенько..." )) И если это кому то нужно !!!
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 09: 22 New
    +1
    and a couple of 28x arrived ... they like to fly at night ... repeat
  6. bugrovata
    bugrovata 15 October 2015 09: 26 New
    +6
    Well done! Grind skill in combat conditions! look and be afraid! angry
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 15 October 2015 10: 58 New
      +1
      it is desirable to grind mastery without cameras the whiter the western
      1. Orel
        Orel 15 October 2015 11: 01 New
        -29
        Today there was information that MI-28N helicopters arrived in Syria. Strengthen the air group. We are drawn into a conflict ... The best gift for the USA can not be imagined ...
        1. oracul
          oracul 15 October 2015 16: 07 New
          +4
          It would be at least stupid, like the French in 1940, to try to sit out on the defensive. A gift from the United States would only be if it were they who pulled us into the fighting. In this case, this is our decision, meaningful and calculated on the lead.
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 16 October 2015 09: 44 New
          +6
          To paraphrase the famous phrase: whoever does not want to fight in someone else's territory will fight in his own.
      2. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 18: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Amirbek
        it is desirable to grind mastery without cameras

        Oh, how wrong you are! When the first TB-3 appeared, the first squadron was sent to the Far East. At that time, Japan spoke openly and prepared to tear the Far East out of the USSR. Stalin gave the mission and the TB-3 squadron flew over the capital of Japan and dropped leaflets in Japanese. Japanese fighters tried to intercept the Soviet bombers and were unable to catch them. The preparation of aggression against the USSR is over. Let us recall the 1941 year when the vengeful Japanese refused to attack the USSR ... did not forgive them for signing the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, which was concluded during the battles at Khalkhin Gol. Let them look with their eyes wide open and understand that it is better not to wake the bear.
  7. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 October 2015 09: 28 New
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    The campaign began to remember the world that the Russians are only called a peace-loving nation.
    And if we start to fight, then we do it wholeheartedly.
    And our soul is wide-eyed ...)))
    1. kizhe
      kizhe 15 October 2015 11: 31 New
      +6
      A nehru bear wake up. Now it will not settle until frost.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 18: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: kizhe
        Now it will not settle until frost.

        A connecting rod is a terrible thing.
  8. roskot
    roskot 15 October 2015 09: 28 New
    10
    Pride takes over our pilots.
  9. Pacifist
    Pacifist 15 October 2015 09: 32 New
    +8
    Our pilots are great. Soviet + Russian school of flyers is not lost, and this is the key to success. The main thing is that the equipment was up to date, with the latest self-defense systems, and then no Stingers are scary. Good luck and clear skies.
  10. Bekas1967
    Bekas1967 15 October 2015 09: 32 New
    16
    Now compare the salary level of the manager in the State Monopoly (Rosneft, Gazprom, Russian Railways ...) and military pilots. INCOMPATIBLE! Everything should be the other way around! The manager is 59 thousand rubles and the pilot 50 thousand euros !!! Per month!
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 15 October 2015 10: 03 New
      +4
      Я думаю там "боевые"нрмальные.
      1. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 15 October 2015 13: 02 New
        +7
        I agree with you =)
        Immediately send managers to Syria...пусть "боевые" зарабатывают...в пехоте...на передовой!!!

        still, I'm an evil person ...
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 15 October 2015 16: 44 New
          +3
          In the infantry from them, too, will not be of any use.
          Is it like that ....
          http://www.pravda.info/society/96593.html
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 October 2015 09: 35 New
    +4
    Experts interviewed by Foreign Polic magazine believe that pilots operating helicopter helicopters demonstrate the highest level of professionalism.

    Thank you for that. And then from the west, except for dirt and horror stories, which is almost inaudible.
  12. tongilguk
    tongilguk 15 October 2015 09: 36 New
    +3
    Such shots are better than any air show. Real combat use. I think now those who still doubted whose helicopters to purchase decided this question for themselves in our favor.
  13. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 October 2015 09: 36 New
    21
    Не Сирия , но дух замирает что творят "хулиганье"... good
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 15 October 2015 09: 54 New
      +4
      Уж действительно, "фулюганьё"! Творит на боевом, не очень лёгком вертолёте, что-то немыслимое. Под впечатлением всё ждал, что "бочку" крутанёт, петлю или иммельман... good good good
      1. ammunition
        ammunition 17 October 2015 04: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Black Colonel
        Уж действительно, "фулюганьё"! Творит на боевом, не очень лёгком вертолёте, что-то немыслимое.

        I apologize.
        Compared with the way the Mi-24 crews flew in the 80. .. the impression that they are training a beginner. repeat
        Sorry one more time.
    2. Petrix
      Petrix 15 October 2015 10: 54 New
      19
      Quote: MIKHAN
      but the spirit freezes

      There’s a general feeling. And this is on MI-8!
      1. kizhe
        kizhe 15 October 2015 11: 42 New
        +2
        Yeah. Cool. At which school they taught dance.
      2. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 15 October 2015 13: 05 New
        0
        Yes, it’s go local Peruvian Indians =) they also have to fly all the way between the mountains ... and even go and gobble what alkaloid-containing leaves - that’s why it turns in vain =)
      3. Vanko
        Vanko 15 October 2015 17: 46 New
        +5
        I had a chance to somehow participate in the helicopter mounting of the cableway supports.
        A pin almost a ton in weight is put on the bolts on the first try.
        And this, for a minute, + -5cm is corrected and joined so far, the nuts are baited, it is necessary to hold still for a minute. Yes, the cable length with the support is about 50 meters ...

        Not that delight, just no words!
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      5. Oml
        Oml 15 October 2015 18: 41 New
        0
        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTYOwtepAc

        What about the sniper?
      6. Oml
        Oml 16 October 2015 04: 04 New
        0
        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTYOwtepAc

        What about the sniper?
    3. jPilot
      jPilot 15 October 2015 12: 03 New
      +6
      Чёйт "хулиганьё" wink ловкость рук и никакого "машенства", а ещё у нас говорят "мастерство не пропьёшь"
      А если без шуток то удачи ребятам, и если вдруг "враги" все таки подсуетятся, стрелку в глаз сориночку, малую песчиночку и что-б рука дрогнула.
      God bless you guys!
      Already right back in the seat of the second-hand helicopter I wanted to look at the ground in the sight (although I didn’t promise)
      Когда с шефом верхушки стригу, спрашивает "Что так низко", я всегда отвечаю: "высоко летать боюсь, вдруг ракета" wink lol laughing
      1. gudgeon
        gudgeon 15 October 2015 15: 06 New
        0
        Quote: jPilot
        а ещё у нас говорят "мастерство не пропьёшь"

        Damn, the video is not inserted, but I recommend it.
        http://yandex.ru/video/search?text=демонстрационные%20возможности%20ми-8&path=wi
        zard & filmId = 3FtXXW74UXI
        1. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn 16 October 2015 18: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: gudgeon
          Damn, the video is not inserted,

          1. Al red
            Al red 16 October 2015 19: 49 New
            0
            Master of his craft.
    4. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 16 October 2015 18: 26 New
      +1
      MAZ - 500 tanker in the strip, that's cool! Soviet means excellent!
    5. ammunition
      ammunition 17 October 2015 04: 44 New
      0
      Why, back in the 1984 year, the standard maneuver was a dead loop supported by a screw, and a dive with a screw with the transition to a dive nose, exactly on target?
      --------
      Is it not necessary right now? Or have forgotten how?
  14. gukoyan
    gukoyan 15 October 2015 09: 38 New
    +4
    Our pilots are the best and fearless that they once again proved and showed, and who doubted it was convinced of this more than once!)
  15. Wedmak
    Wedmak 15 October 2015 09: 39 New
    12
    By the way, I think that’s why they insist on a two-man crew for a helicopter. One should focus entirely on piloting, and the second to work with weapons. This is too complicated for one person, too many parameters must be controlled, and there are only two hands.
    1. max702
      max702 15 October 2015 10: 42 New
      +1
      On the KA-50 they proved the opposite .. And in the 80s they did what can be done now and there’s nothing to say .. The truth is, in this case, you can forget about ordering MIL attack helicopters .. That's why the Ka-50 was eaten ..
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 October 2015 10: 52 New
        11
        Ka-50 only proved that it is possible. He has a very high percentage of automation, yes. But what will happen if part of the devices is damaged? Can the pilot pull out the car?
        Further: there was already an analysis and not one, Ka-50 is a machine for special operations. This is not a front-line helicopter. It will be difficult for one person to work on an advanced, saturated weapon, including MANPADS and anti-aircraft guns. No matter how armored he is, everything that can shoot will hit him. I did not notice the start, I did not have time to react - that's all.
        And two pairs of eyes and hands, as well as separation of duties, increase the chances of completing a task and leave whole.
        Ka-50 was eaten, but they gave birth to Ka-52, in my opinion the car is much more powerful and efficient.
    2. belroni
      belroni 15 October 2015 11: 24 New
      +7
      The three of us flew in Karabbakh and Ossetia on Mi-24. Commander, operator and airborne. There was enough work for everyone.
    3. belroni
      belroni 15 October 2015 11: 24 New
      +3
      The three of us flew in Karabbakh and Ossetia on Mi-24. Commander, operator and airborne. There was enough work for everyone.
  16. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 15 October 2015 09: 48 New
    +4
    In the video, the absence of DZ on Syrian tanks is depressing. And this is important.
  17. ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 15 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +2
    Our hawks are the coolest pilots good
  18. da Vinci
    da Vinci 15 October 2015 09: 51 New
    +4
    Очень жаль, что этот "сортир" в Сирии разгребают русские, как и во Вьетнаме, Анголе, Египте, Афгане и др... Удачи вам, мужики! drinks
  19. slizhov
    slizhov 15 October 2015 09: 52 New
    +5
    mind you, more and more often begin to admire the achievements of our country and its people ... :)
    First let her arms, and then ...
    and then, beyond my doubt, and the economy! :)
    Why not believe it?
  20. Russian_Bear
    Russian_Bear 15 October 2015 09: 52 New
    +1
    The experience of Afghanistan has clearly benefited. Yes, and constant exercises have increased the experience and coordination of the pilots!
  21. Hey
    Hey 15 October 2015 09: 54 New
    11
    Why are helicopters flying so low in Syria?
    In my opinion there are a couple of reasons.
    1. When shooting at a low flying target at close range, a non-contact fuse does not have time to stand on a combat cockpit.
    2. In Syria during the day, high temperatures up to 40 gr. And the objects of the infrastructure and just stones in the open have an even higher temperature. And against their background, it’s easier to hide from MANPADS homing. Especially considering the measures taken to mask exhaust gases and the simultaneous use of heat traps.
    If wrong, refute or supplement. Just wondering.
    1. opus
      opus 15 October 2015 10: 50 New
      11
      Quote: MUD
      1. When shooting at a low flying target at close range, a non-contact fuse does not have time to stand on a combat cockpit.

      успевает.Он "встает" как покидает пусковой контейнер.
      и если речь идет о "Стингер" FIM-92* ... у него контактный взрыватель(ударного действия).
      safety-executive mechanism, ensures the removal of the fuse protection stages already in phase 2: the second working position of the trigger (activation of the BAB)
      Quote: MUD
      2. In Syria during the day, high temperatures up to 40 gr. And the infrastructure objects and just

      -если опять речь о"Стингер", то с FIM-92B, ГСН работает в ИК и ультрафиолетовом (УФ) спектре
      rosette-like scanning, provides high selection capabilities of the target in the conditions of background noise and protection from means of counteracting the infrared range.
      40грС не помеха,при "попадании" ГСН оком на Солнце, будет еще больше.
      Simply:
      - guidance in azimuth and elevation is performed by the operator from his shoulder,the closer the aircraft to it, the higher the angular velocity (the operator is not an ABM, there is no electric drive, the waist is not a stranger), and the viewing sector in the sighting sight is limited
      - for the GOS to start working, it is necessary to activate the power supply and cooling unit.
      Autonomy of work 45s.
      ГСН захватила цель,включается звуковой сигнал и вибрационное устройство оптического прицела(к которому стрелок прижимается щекой) предупреждает о захвате цели. Разаретируется гироскоп. Аргон "расходуется" БАБ может работать 19С.
      The lead angles are made by the shooter himself ...
      And?
      Цель скрылась за зданием,или за "горизонтом" или срыв.
      start over.
      It is relatively easy to shoot from the bottom up, or from the mountains, the slope on the aircraft flying in the gorge.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 15 October 2015 12: 12 New
        +2
        GOS works in the IR and ultraviolet (UV) spectrum


        Dear, I clarify, a UV filter that eliminates possible false targets and the solar factor. As if by UV it is not induced.
        1. opus
          opus 15 October 2015 20: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Asadullah
          Dear, I’ll clarify

          dear, explain
          FIM-92B, Stinger POST: In this version, the infrared seeker head was replaced by a combined IR / UV seeker that utilized rosette scanning. This resulted in achieving significantly higher resistance to enemy countermeasures (Flares) and natural disturbances. Production ran from 1981 to 1987, a total of 600 missiles were produced

          SAM FIM-92B equipped dual band GOS operating in the infrared and ultraviolet ranges wavelengths.
    2. Asadullah
      Asadullah 15 October 2015 11: 59 New
      +5
      And the objects of the infrastructure and just stones in the open have an even higher temperature. And against their background, it’s easier to hide from MANPADS homing. Especially considering the measures taken to mask exhaust gases and the simultaneous use of heat traps.


      Первое наиболее рабочее. Во втором, чуть поправлю и дополню. Алюминий, разогретый двиглом таких энергий, никак не спрячешь на "фоне" разогретых камней и зданий, слишком велика разница температур. А вот использовать рельеф, когда по тебе должны стрелять практически горизонтально, очень даже рекомендуется. Мешают здания, работающая техника, очаги пожаров, разрывы. ПЗРК в таком поле не работает. Заметьте, тепловые ловушки отстреливают когда выходят на более высокий эшелон для разворота. Поразить борт другими средствами возможно, но это может сделать очень опытный и хладнокровный человек. Обычно такой, в добавок очень умный, что бы охотится за крокодилом работающим в группе. Крысы в Сирии начинают бегать по норам, когда их атакуют, в одну нору нырнули из другой вынырнули. А там где вынырнули, стараются себя не обнаруживать. От того в таком бою многое зависит от случайности. Кто то в ужасе, в истерике пальнул в белый свет, блин, вдруг попал.
      1. opus
        opus 15 October 2015 12: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Asadullah
        The first is the most working.

        not working.
        Stinger has a contact fuse, shock
        Arrow's contact target sensor (magnetic induction generator)
        at the Needle, the truth is an induction sensor (vortex generator), providing undermining of warheads when passing a rocket near metal plating target.
        But all the same, it’s not the essence: everywhere, the safety-detonating device serves to ensure the safety of the missile until it is cocked after the launch of the rocket.
        the rocket left TPK,second stage remote control-removed(the first is removed by pulling the trigger in position 2)
        Quote: Asadullah
        MANPADS in this field does not work.

        MANPADS of generation 2 work fine even when the target is m / a shooter and the sun.

        GOS with deep cooling to a temperature of -200 ° C ensures the performance of the complex when firing at catch-up courses in any background situations;
        The wavelengths of the infrared receiver of the GOS are calculated somewhat at a different temperature of the radiating body
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 15 October 2015 12: 38 New
          +2
          GOS with deep cooling to a temperature of -200 ° C ensures the operability of the complex when firing at catch-up courses in any background situations;
          The wavelengths of the infrared receiver of the GOS are calculated somewhat at a different temperature of the radiating body


          Theoretically, I had hardly heard of lesions in horizontal mode. Yes, I agree, today they measure the temperature of the target, but they work effectively on objects on the ground. In Yugoslavia, rockets with Achea successfully hit a burning barrel with rags soaked in diesel fuel, that is, the thermal background, it can be very unusual, like its spectrum. hi
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 October 2015 09: 58 New
    +2
    Sin, of course, to speak, but a helicopter carrier with a serious strike group off the coast of Syria would not hurt. Of course, not Mistral, but something of his own. Pieces for 20 Ka 52. It would have greatly contributed.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 15 October 2015 10: 14 New
      +1
      Pieces on 20-Ka 52


      And by the way, why not see Ka 52?
  23. Olezhek
    Olezhek 15 October 2015 10: 01 New
    0
    based on the stories of "close observers of the conflict, indicating a high skill pilots"
    "Video with two Mi-24, which fly so close to the ground and shoot rockets, demonstrates the highest degree of high qualification, the great courage of the crew of the Russian helicopter."


    I think the Ukrainian media will soon disprove all this ...
    Jackals feather ... they are such ..
  24. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 15 October 2015 10: 02 New
    +3
    Не даром шутят, что когда в Армии вводили дисциплину - авиация была в воздухе. И теперь эти "хулиганы", парни "оторви и брось" дают *изды любому протвнику, будь ты хоть гомо, хоть тля!...
    Well done boys! Our pride!
  25. Avis24
    Avis24 15 October 2015 10: 03 New
    0
    Не всё так радужно парни. Посмотрел всё видео оттуда и могу сказать, то там есть что ещё оттачивать. Много "детских" ошибок, особенно на боевом курсе. Надеюсь там есть кому исправить. Дырок точно уже нахватали.
  26. Olezhek
    Olezhek 15 October 2015 10: 04 New
    -1
    "Video with two Mi-24, which fly so close to the ground and shoot rockets, demonstrates the highest degree of high qualification, the great courage of the crew of the Russian helicopter."


    Will there be a movie ???

    Or unformat?

    Computer fly? soldier
  27. radogos
    radogos 15 October 2015 10: 19 New
    +3
    Beauties !!! Just come back alive! WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU!!
    PS FORKS FOR MATTRESSES !!!
  28. Pogran
    Pogran 15 October 2015 10: 29 New
    +1
    who is the coach of these synchronists, go to gold!)
  29. ilyaches
    ilyaches 15 October 2015 10: 33 New
    +2
    "...пилоты, управляющие боевыми вертолётами, демонстрируют высочайший уровень профессионализма..."

    Let Westerners look and fear. Friends and allies let them learn. Well done guys. Praise and respect.
  30. SergeySeverny
    SergeySeverny 15 October 2015 10: 36 New
    0
    highest qualification! courageous guys! risk but work!
  31. kultiapin
    kultiapin 15 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +2
    The key word is courage, knowing how Islamists treat prisoners of war.

    Heat traps are fired in manual mode, or in automatic?


    If in automatic, it turns out that the electronics captures the capture of a helicopter by rockets? Knowledgeable people, dedicate the dark ...
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 17 October 2015 23: 53 New
      +3
      There is a manual mode and an automatic machine, but not in the form as you expect. On Su25, it turns on automatically when you click on bk. Now on Sushki 30,35,34 the on-board computer monitors radiation and automatically selects a countermeasure complex, but there is always a manual mode.
  32. rotor
    rotor 15 October 2015 10: 58 New
    +6
    there is still video

  33. Buffalo
    Buffalo 15 October 2015 11: 11 New
    +1
    А уж, как "крокодил" восхищает ИГИЛ! laughing
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 15 October 2015 15: 13 New
      0
      DIRECT VERSES ...
  34. belroni
    belroni 15 October 2015 11: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: screw cutter
    Я думаю там "боевые"нрмальные.

    Probably. It was we who, in the middle of the 90's, lined up in Chechnya in order to at least pay the debt.
  35. marder4
    marder4 15 October 2015 11: 34 New
    0
    and they thought the guys from the kindergarten would fly to them?
  36. rus-5819
    rus-5819 15 October 2015 11: 44 New
    +1

    “If you see a high level of professionalism and flying skills, as well as the accuracy of fire opened from a helicopter, then 100% that these are Russian pilots. Since the Mi-24 combines heavy weapons with a transport fuselage, they can be used to transport Russian special operations units to the front line.


    Offend, boss! Do you sew an occupation again?

    Ну ладно, пусть российские пилоты, это ясно, но "подразделения российских спецопераций"- это перебор!

    Mi-24 what, the Syrian military does not accept what?
  37. kizhe
    kizhe 15 October 2015 11: 49 New
    0
    What can be added here. The soul freezes. Well done flyers.
  38. Wolka
    Wolka 15 October 2015 12: 33 New
    +1
    это еще что, хотя славно крокодильчики отработали, но вот "миккимаусы" придут те точно покажут супостатам "воздушный канкан", то-то я смотрю в Травянах летуны кренделя выписывают на бреющем полете...
    1. flay
      flay 15 October 2015 22: 27 New
      0
      Something did not notice much activity in Travyanka. hi
      They are in the Kurgan side go whether
  39. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 15 October 2015 13: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: belroni
    Quote: screw cutter
    Я думаю там "боевые"нрмальные.

    Probably. It was we who, in the middle of the 90's, lined up in Chechnya in order to at least pay the debt.

    In 2000, they paid 25000 salaries and field pay, and this was the infantry.
  40. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 15 October 2015 14: 07 New
    +3
    БУКВАЛЬНО "утюжить" - ползать на брюхе по несколько заходов под прицельным огнём из автоматического оружия практически в упор. Это же какие нервы надо иметь и веру в технику! Пробирает до мурашек!
    See pictures of turntables after sorties.
  41. ML-334
    ML-334 15 October 2015 14: 10 New
    0
    Volka! From Kamensk or what? Why shouldn't there be our specialists? Developing skills is not superfluous, and then familiarization with the enemy in a combat situation will be beneficial. Experience has not stopped anyone.
  42. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 15 October 2015 14: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Orel
    Today there was information that MI-28N helicopters arrived in Syria. Strengthen the air group. We are drawn into a conflict ... The best gift for the USA can not be imagined ...

    Let's figure it out somehow!
  43. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 15 October 2015 15: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: Avis24
    Не всё так радужно парни. Посмотрел всё видео оттуда и могу сказать, то там есть что ещё оттачивать. Много "детских" ошибок, особенно на боевом курсе. Надеюсь там есть кому исправить. Дырок точно уже нахватали.


    Судя по англицкому флагу у Вас над головой Avis24 - Что то не видать америконского видео, где "бравые парни самой ислючительной страны в мире" правильно и высоким уровнем профессионализма мочат боевиков ИГ. Как раз наоборот амерканские парни сбрасывают ИГ гуманитарку в виде 50 тонн оружия и боеприпасов, что б продолжали активней резать головы военнослужащих сирийского государства. Про эксковаторы и больницу мы в курсе и про борадатых агентов ЦРУ якобы уничтоженных тож.
  44. Balagan
    Balagan 15 October 2015 16: 03 New
    0
    Yes they work well, what can I say!
  45. Zai pali
    Zai pali 15 October 2015 17: 15 New
    0
    If the Stingers would be there. The helicopter should quietly approach, shoot back and leave.
  46. morozik
    morozik 15 October 2015 18: 10 New
    +1
    dear helicopter pilots, just go home!
  47. fedotow
    fedotow 15 October 2015 21: 21 New
    +1
    Просмотрел на замедленной скорости, на большом экране видео "Атака Ми-24 на засевших в сирийском городе Кафр-Набуда исламистов". Обнаружил шесть запусков ракет ПЗРК с земли. В одном месте видно, как ракета шарахнулась в сторону после отстрела тепловых ловушек. Очевидно, ракет было пущено больше, но качество съемки таково, что рассмотреть не удалось.

    In that case, what we have. On crocodiles they shoot from the ground, almost continuously, but they work calmly, without fuss. Moreover, the pilots do not pay attention to MANPADS, completely relying on automatic protection. And having spent ammunition fly away, without loss.

    And we also have that America was the first to use attack helicopters in Vietnam. Now, due to the development of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS), NATO has refused to use them. And here, military experts can see the work of Russian military technologies in real conditions. I think it would be more correct to talk not about admiration, but about other feelings.
  48. 19max70
    19max70 16 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +1
    Our just done! Designers are what they come up with and embody.
    Factory workers - what they can do.
    Staff officers - that they know how to apply.
    Pilots - that they know how to use to the fullest.
  49. Clintonoa
    Clintonoa 16 October 2015 10: 48 New
    0
    Hey. Here on the site in the group https://vk.com/online_games_mmorpg_88 many of the most popular online games are described.
    If you like the game, you can immediately register
    and try out the toy.
  50. naGua
    naGua 16 October 2015 14: 13 New
    +1
    Brazenly work. Well done.

    Не нагло, товарищи, а дерзко! Именно дерзко! Есть такое понятие превосходства в военном деле. Такие вот люди и поднимают престиж военной профессии. Помните,- "Есть такая профессия, комэска- Родину защищать!"?