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Belarus: optimistic view

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The Belarusian elections allowed to reveal a lot of pitfalls and at the same time became a reason for cautious optimism, convincing many skeptics about the outlook of Alexander Lukashenko. One of the positive moments is the absence of a split in society and at least a cautious attitude towards the opposition. And Belarus successfully defended the title of the main Russian outpost in Eastern Europe. Let's try to figure out why.




No precedent

I think everyone remembers the events of 2010 of the year, when the Belarusian “Maidan” was very well organized and held. He did not achieve his goals, but showed that, according to American foreign policy manuals, it is quite possible to bring several tens of thousands of latent oppositionists to the main square of the country and try to “stir up” something. Fortunately, times are changing, as the current situation shows.

The Maidan-2015 was planned along roughly the same method: the alleged discontent of the population with the “dictator”, the objections of the “society” against the military alliance with Russia and the fundamentally wrong power structure organized by Alexander Grigorievich. But he didn’t catch the audience well - there weren’t people in principle, except for a couple of dozen activists, whose speeches died out before they started.

What is striking is that Europe, apparently, fed up with American pressure, not only did not react to the election results with restraint, but also canceled the effect of sanctions against the Belarusian authorities for 4 month. This is a precedent equal to that in modern stories the country has not yet existed, and it says a lot about the increased sociability of the EU (did it really see the light?).

How to live and cooperate with Belarus further

I will not go through the minuses of Lukashenko and the minuses of a very peculiar form of government in the Republic of Belarus. I just want to note that, despite some costs, it allowed preserving the Soviet legacy better than in other former Soviet republics, as well as forming a post-industrial society without destroying the traditional way of life of the economy. I would like to note a slightly different point, which for me just a couple of months ago would be somewhat unexpected, - the unequivocal positioning of the President of Belarus as an ally of Russia.

Perhaps my words sound strange, especially against the background of the recent statements by Batka about Russian air bases, the existence of agreements on which he definitely denied. Nevertheless, it is necessary to recognize the obvious: no matter how cunning and two-faced a politician Lukashenka was, he is at the same time a pragmatist, able to look at several moves ahead. And he understands very well - if you quarrel with Russia, if you seriously make friends with the West and lose all the preferences for the purchase of oil and gas, if you lose powerful economic support for your neighbor - Belarus will be in the same defenseless situation as Ukraine now, and over time will turn third world country. And this will be fraught primarily for the president himself - then for once, the eternal pro-American opposition will be right.

Once again: everyone who claims the hostility of the Belarusian politeness towards Russia is trivial to look at the components of the budget of the Republic of Belarus, which is formed due to mutually beneficial cooperation with the Russian Federation. The only difference is that the Russian Federation can afford to live without Belarusian milk and tractors, and the Republic of Belarus without Russian energy carriers and annual loans will be bent very quickly. And that is why Lukashenka in the foreseeable future will not take any anti-Russian steps that may affect relations between the two countries.

Even fraternization with Poroshenko and the recognition of the Ukrainian authorities by Belarus, even soft games of independence can be viewed as part of a complex geopolitical game in which Lukashenka and Putin act together, only the latter is in its place, and the first is under cover. On the one hand, Belarus serves as a buffer zone between Europe and Russia, and on the other hand, it is becoming increasingly integrated into the Eurasian Union and various defense projects in the CIS.

Talking about Belarusian youth is a separate conversation. The fact that she is partly keen on anti-Russian rhetoric is completely fixable. And here, I think, it is quite possible to put pressure on the Father - no matter what he plans, and the degree of this very rhetoric in the country can and should be reduced. No matter what they say, Belarus and Russia will stay together for a long time, and nothing can objectively prevent this.

PS Please consider this article as my personal opinion. I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, but I hope that my arguments will seem rather convincing to you. Thank.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 05: 55 New
    13
    The conversation about the Belarusian youth is a separate conversation. The fact that she is partly passionate about anti-Russian rhetoric is quite fixable. And here, I think, it is quite possible to put pressure on the dad - no matter what he plans, and the degree of this very rhetoric in the country can and should be reduced.
    I agree with the author. Everything starts with young nails, they’ll start, don’t wait for a good one.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 15 October 2015 06: 14 New
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      run-do not wait for a good one.

      Ukraine has shown us what to expect from this "launch". And therefore more, perhaps, with this appeal it is necessary to appeal to our authorities: "Have you slept through Ukraine? Do not oversleep Belarus!" They let everything take its course: neither pro-Russian NGOs (like "Why? Where will they go?"), Nor propaganda .. Of course, the Belarusians are not khokh.ly! wassat But you can’t blame everything on one Old Man! wink
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 15 October 2015 09: 55 New
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        I just want to note that, despite some costs, it allowed to preserve the Soviet legacy better than in other former union republics, as well as form a post-industrial society without destroying the traditional economy.

        only on the "Soviet legacy" and leaves
        On the merits of lukanomiki:
        (from the news) Over the past five years, the average pension in Minsk increased by 5,2 times.
        (in fact) - "increased" from $ 188 to $ 167
        1. 2s1122
          2s1122 15 October 2015 10: 49 New
          +3
          Do you want something like in Ukraine the industry is constantly developing in ++ wassat
        2. tolian
          tolian 15 October 2015 11: 39 New
          +7
          Explorer, compare a set of retirement goods. Then and now. Why are you doing in a puddle, taking advantage of the fall of the Russian ruble. The Belarusian pension almost doubled in Russian rubles. But food prices have not doubled in Russian rubles. You, conductor, verbiage. Such as you need to either educate, or to clarify what you are a conductor. Lukashenko is difficult, but people support him. Not you, conductor, but people. So they also chose to be father. Rotate.
          1. 0255
            0255 15 October 2015 13: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: tolian
            Explorer, compare a set of retirement goods. Then and now. Why are you doing in a puddle, taking advantage of the fall of the Russian ruble. The Belarusian pension almost doubled in Russian rubles.

            That's only our prices are considered in US dollars, and the dollar is constantly growing, prices immediately rise along with the dollar. And prices in Belarus are higher than in Russia, Poland, the Baltic states and Ukraine, the population goes shopping abroad. Relocate to us in Belarus for permanent residence, you will see that not everything is as beautiful as you think
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 15 October 2015 19: 41 New
              +5
              But on the other hand, the only way to live better is not to "lie to the west"

              We will become raw materials, etc. "appendages" at once - at best, we will repeat the fate of the Balts (or as the Greeks will be) - when everything is completely closed and live on "loans" - otherwise a form of bankruptcy and then "purchase" of an impoverished country.

              And in the worst, Nigeria’s fate awaits us - and plus a reduction in the population - they have already openly stated that there will be enough 30 million in Russia (does it mean that we have 3 million in KZ?)

              90 has already gone west - nothing good - just the horror of what happened

              And vice versa, when our states defend their interests, a rise in the standard of living begins — a vivid example is the return of the Russian oil industry to 2004 — and then the budget and debts are paid off and salaries are paid, etc. — a classic example

              I am glad that Belarus as a whole is heading east - to the "Golden Horde" as liberals often call us now. For them it is an insult - for me as a Kazakh it is a compliment.

              I respect that Old Man did not allow the oligarchs and "privatization" - his authority is very high in our country - everyone respects whoever I say. With such an ally, integration is an honor.

              And his speeches - in most cases completely pro-Russian or pro-Eurasian - and when not quite so - are coordinated with the Kremlin, or the second case is his opposition to the Russian oligarchs - the Old Man will not surrender Belarus to them without a fight - and here we all must be on the side oligarchs
              1. minipig79
                minipig79 15 October 2015 23: 12 New
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                .... I respect that Old Man did not allow oligarchs and "privatization" ...
                Read something on the internet about the names of Peftiev, Chizh ...
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 15 October 2015 23: 45 New
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              Quote: 0255
              prices in Belarus are higher than in Russia,

              Give an example, would you please? Judging by the "Belwest" - it's not so bad as you paint.
              1. 0255
                0255 15 October 2015 23: 51 New
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                Quote: avia1991
                Quote: 0255
                prices in Belarus are higher than in Russia,

                Give an example, would you please? Judging by the "Belwest" - it's not so bad as you paint.

                In Belarus, electronics, household appliances, cars, and almost everything are more expensive. Belarusians often come to stores to consult, and then they buy the goods they like abroad. And Belvest footwear falls apart a month after purchase.
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 16 October 2015 00: 36 New
                  +1
                  Quote: 0255
                  Belvest footwear falls apart a month after purchase.

                  I don’t know how it is with you - excuse me - but I have been wearing it for the third year (demi-season), and so far I have not been able to become unusable.
                  Quote: 0255
                  In Belarus, electronics, household appliances, cars are more expensive, yes almost everything

                  This "almost everything" always fascinates me!
                  Let's compare prices for meat, milk, vegetables .. what we need EVERY day! You do not change the TV once a week ?!
                  My wife's aunt has been living in Germany for many years already .. DREAMING TO GET TO RUSSIA! Although the brother-in-law has a business, and a home, and life is somehow ustakanena .. BUT THERE NOW IS A CRAZY. And it doesn't look like it will resolve quickly. So "it's good everywhere, where we are not!"
      2. hedgehog in the fog
        hedgehog in the fog 15 October 2015 10: 06 New
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        blah blah blah, if you want to know the Belarusian "apazitsyu" go to belpartyzan, hartya, our cornfield, read comments, articles and the next time you might think before you call Belarus a calm loyal country and Belarusians are pamyarkoi i talentedi, americans with fireballs wash the brains of young people, moreover, we do not have either western or eastern Belarus, all rot is sitting in Minsk, but how else, when the rector of YSU amerikos, and how many more "enlighteners" work in institutes and universities, but you read and tell your authors that we are quiet and calmly
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 15 October 2015 10: 09 New
          -8
          laughing laughing
          when the rector of YSU americos

          and it probably warps you?) And nothing that YSU was closed in 2004?
          americos with palyaki wash the brains of youth

          BRSM does it no worse, and even with its (brain) irreversible changes)
          , and we have neither west nor east Belarus, all the rot sits in Minsk

          burn STILL !! lol
          Every day, rot pushes food and salary products to Poland, smuggles cigarette doors across the border and then drives them to neighbors)

          4 region in practice)
          1. hedgehog in the fog
            hedgehog in the fog 15 October 2015 10: 44 New
            +6
            Well, if you’re not comfortable, I’ll explain to you that now you can go to Poland every 8 days, there are X-rays at all checkpoints in Babrovniki and Bruzgi, now people from Poland only go for household appliances, and almost 90 percent are from Minsk, we’re already they’ve brought it to themselves, but the toad strangles you that people earn? I bought at a gas station 100 liters of diesel, what difference does it matter to you that I’ll just drive them or I will earn a pretty penny on it ???? this is how the national conflict begins, a comrade from Minsk thinks that the 4th region is rotten, affix the Azov patch, because many Minskers fought in it, we don’t have time, we bring cigarettes to Poland hi
            1. Conductor
              Conductor 15 October 2015 10: 50 New
              +2
              no offense
              I don’t think that region 4 is rotten, but people who only know how to make money this way and when they are mentioned in Bialystok, people spit. But you wrote seriously that
              all rot sits in Minsk

              a little offensive, although I understand what was meant by "svyadomyya apazitsyaners-zmagars"
              1. hedgehog in the fog
                hedgehog in the fog 15 October 2015 12: 01 New
                +3
                this is an extra income, and so, I work at a construction site. Well, oh and alas, they don’t want to work for 6 muliks in Minsk, and we have such a good salary, because there is no other, and the average in Grodno is 4 -5 mulenov, (15 rudders grew), but people work for 000mule, such 3-35% (40rules) because there is no work and there are only reductions ahead, that’s how our people earn money, and I’ll tell you about cigarettes, people buy them from the state, they pay him money and you shouldn’t be upset that someone will earn a little hi
                1. hedgehog in the fog
                  hedgehog in the fog 15 October 2015 13: 03 New
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                  well, and minus yourself for health, just take into account in our "rotten" 4 region, in particular in Hrono, young people, unlike the advanced Minsk, do not jump through the streets and do not go to meetings with the parties of Bender and Shukhevych under the slogan of Ukrainian brothers participates in social polls paid for by the West, such as how do you feel about Russians and how we differ, with the result that all Russians are bad and evil, and we are kinder, you see we have no time, she earns as much as she can, who is in a taxi, who is at the factory, who is at a construction site in Russia, someone who cannibalize cigarettes and fuel, while bringing extra currency to the budget, so think those which are better, your sumptuous and Svidomo Minsk party or Grodno cantrabandists
                  1. Conductor
                    Conductor 15 October 2015 13: 50 New
                    -4
                    in Grono, in particular, young people, unlike advanced Minsk, do not ride in the streets and do not go to rallies with the party partners of Bender and Shukhevych under the slogan of Ukrainian brothers, do not participate in social surveys paid by the West

                    of course, the ink on the porches to whip is all the more interesting lol

                    Homo, well, they have such thinking, what can you do. Grodzenskaya Ylita)
                    1. hedgehog in the fog
                      hedgehog in the fog 15 October 2015 15: 01 New
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                      maybe you and wine and other alcohol are whipped in the porches, we’ve stopped
                2. Homo
                  Homo 15 October 2015 13: 08 New
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                  Quote: hedgehog in the fog
                  ... and you shouldn’t yell that someone will earn a little on this

                  Hedgehog, go into the fog and don't stick your head out! And if you don't have enough money, try to rob a bank, this is also an "extra penny"! Rotten reasoning, and started well.
                3. avia1991
                  avia1991 15 October 2015 23: 53 New
                  +1
                  Quote: hedgehog in the fog
                  as well as the average for Grodno 4 -5 mulenov (15 rudders grew)

                  You will be surprised - but in Russia salaries are not very different. And the tales about the "average in Russia" of 36000 are Dreams! .. Which our powers-that-be so love to voice, being proud of their own scope - eh-eh! .. People are told in the eyes: "You don't believe the numbers on your salary accounts - in fact, you are getting more than 30 thousand! "..
                4. prosto_rgb
                  prosto_rgb 16 October 2015 04: 11 New
                  +2
                  Quote: hedgehog in the fog
                  and I’ll tell you about cigarettes, people buy them from the state, pay him money, and you shouldn’t yap that someone will earn a little on this

                  By and large, the state would also support people in this endeavor. (Without any irony)
                  After all, his work is done by:
                  1 unloading warehouses
                  2 currency brought home
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        2. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 16 October 2015 04: 06 New
          +1
          You yourself know what censorship system for
          Quote: hedgehog in the fog
          Belpartizan, Charter, our cornfield,

          they, too, are far from objective, and this will burn.
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    2. Ratmir
      Ratmir 15 October 2015 08: 10 New
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      Maybe a little off topic, I met on the Internet open spaces like it)))

      PS I apologize for obscene language.
  2. Berthan
    Berthan 15 October 2015 06: 04 New
    +8
    Whoever says anything, but Belarus and Russia will stay together for a long time, and objectively, nothing can prevent it.


    So, Belarusians are not blind tea - they see what the neighbors got into)
  3. Name
    Name 15 October 2015 06: 09 New
    +6
    Welcome all! The Belarusians should not relax especially, because the "exceptional" are not happy:The US State Department has expressed disappointment with the presidential elections in the Republic of Belarus on Sunday, October 11. According to the US Foreign Ministry, the vote "did not meet international obligations for free and fair elections."

    Based on the reports of the Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, Washington noted that Belarus has "serious problems with vote counting and tabulation."

    In addition, according to American diplomats, the country lacks a legal framework that would govern the conduct of elections.

    The State Department welcomed the participation of opposition political parties and independent media in the elections, but added that international and local observers were cut off from the vote count process, which is incompatible with the concepts of democratic processes and norms.
    - which means that the "cookies" are getting ready for distribution.
    see http: //evrazia.org/news/42822
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 15 October 2015 10: 42 New
      +3
      In general, I think in Russia and Belarus it is necessary to do it as in the USA, where in some states it doesn’t matter to observers where they can’t get to the site blighter than 10 meters noticeably. Democracy directly from all the slots rushing.
      1. minipig79
        minipig79 15 October 2015 23: 46 New
        0
        What are you)))! How clever! And how does the current government against itself mean the correct vote count will be carried out? Bees versus honey?
    2. minipig79
      minipig79 15 October 2015 23: 44 New
      0
      Actually, I absolutely do not give a damn about the opinion of the United States, but in this context all this had a place to be: we have problems with an HONEST vote count, because these same voices are considered by people from executive committees, etc., i.e. current power. And observers not from this same authority are not present in the calculations. WHAT'S WRONG? And the United States said it, or I, what's the difference? Facts have taken place to be.
  4. dsi
    dsi 15 October 2015 06: 17 New
    +2
    Please consider this article as my personal opinion.

    Old Man can even bark, hitting the table. But the nightingale always sings louder ...
  5. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 15 October 2015 06: 43 New
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    While Old Man on the throne, Belarus will be for us. But now a generation is growing that does not know what the Soviet Union is. It is a risk group.
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 15 October 2015 09: 46 New
      +2
      But it already saw what the Maidan and the collapse of Ukraine. I hope that at least the generation instinct for self-preservation has been developed.
    2. minipig79
      minipig79 15 October 2015 23: 48 New
      +1
      But I was born in the USSR in 1979. I know and respect the USSR. What side is it to a mustachioed irremovable scarecrow on the throne? Like - take to yourself!
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  7. parusnik
    parusnik 15 October 2015 07: 16 New
    +9
    The conversation about the Belarusian youth is a separate conversation. The fact that she is partly passionate about anti-Russian rhetoric is quite fixable.... This is no longer fixable ... Russophobia, it either exists, or it does not exist ... But Russophobia in Blorussia exists .. it’s like a small light, it’s barely burning, but it’s worth it, throwing firewood there, it will burn with a bright flame .. But Lukashenko, this light does not extinguish ..
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 15 October 2015 07: 53 New
      +7
      Russophobia, it is either there or it is not ...

      I completely agree with you. It is just as it is not possible to be "a little pregnant". And the worst thing is that Russophobia spreads like the flu under favorable conditions.
    2. van zai
      van zai 15 October 2015 09: 36 New
      +8
      I live in Belarus in Grodno. I communicate with many people, including and fashion clothes. Russophobia does not even smell.
    3. AlexAl
      AlexAl 15 October 2015 09: 49 New
      +1
      But Russophobia exists in Russia ... And so what? The ratio is called Russophobe \ Russophile, Russia \ Belarus?
    4. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 09: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      .But Russophobia in Blorussia exists ..on

      She is present in Russia. request
    5. ma_shlomha
      ma_shlomha 15 October 2015 11: 47 New
      +4
      But Lukashenko, this light does not extinguish ..


      This is what is most dangerous for L himself, not to mention the consequences for the people of Belarus!
      Before our eyes, Ukrainian october, pioneers and Komsomol members have grown up, who quickly turned under the influence of such a spark into "horses" on the Maidans and ATO sadists.
    6. stasimar
      stasimar 15 October 2015 18: 26 New
      +2
      Yes, in Russia itself, Russophobia is no less than ours. (not a joke)
    7. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 16 October 2015 04: 15 New
      0
      What do you mean by the term Russophobia?
  8. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 15 October 2015 07: 25 New
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    Quote: UrraletZ
    While Old Man on the throne, Belarus will be for us. But now a generation is growing that does not know what the Soviet Union is. It is a risk group.
    The theory is that Belarusians came from the Litvinians; the Litvinians are not Slavs, but Europeans.
    This ignorant generation grew up in Ukraine, it grows in Russia. If parents are busy at work, and the school program is the latest pro-American, then parents can’t do anything about it, and such children can often adjust their parents to themselves, especially if you study well. A lot of things could on this uncomfortable topic, maybe, by age it is not far.
    1. Baloo_bst
      Baloo_bst 15 October 2015 08: 58 New
      +8
      The theory is that Belarusians came from the Litvinians; the Litvinians are not Slavs, but Europeans.

      What an interesting theory.
      Only the Statute of the Principality of Lithuania in the Belarusian language was.
      When there were no Litvin in ideas, Krivichy, Vyatichi and other cities were built, and Zhmudins, Ests, Curonians and others still ran with clubs.
      1. 2s1122
        2s1122 15 October 2015 10: 32 New
        +1
        That's for sure, it's like saying that Jorsh Washington is a black man.
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 15 October 2015 08: 29 New
    0
    all anti-Russian movements in Belarusian politics are within the margin of error, for everything according to the protocol is under control, this is the policy of the cunning Lukashenko (cunning by the way is also a kind of mind), it may not look fashionable, but it’s simply dogmatic, without too much fanaticism, and a sheep intact and the wolves are full, is it worth changing the formula ...
    1. minipig79
      minipig79 15 October 2015 23: 52 New
      0
      All anti-Russian movements in Belarusian politics (and this is the policy of Lu and no one else) are within the framework of the GDP that has been launched from above. And it’s funny to pretend that this is not so. The more you cling to a throne supported by GDP, the stronger the chain. And no need for an independent independent policy of dwarf states.
  10. vomag
    vomag 15 October 2015 09: 28 New
    +1
    ,in which Lukashenko and Putin act in conjunction ha ha ha ha, the author is really gonna cheat, he writes ... Luka wanted to spit both on his people and on Russia understand this .... Well, look at least Pyakin or something for the horizon on the actions of bows which constantly supports Russia alone support Kuevskaya the junta is worth .. an article at the level of a school essay on the topic of how I spent the weekend in Belarus ... minus
    1. AlexAl
      AlexAl 15 October 2015 10: 04 New
      -2
      Listen, you’re tired of sobbing from Belarus!
      Quote: vomag
      Luke wanted to spit on his people and on Russia
      If you wanted to spit on everything, making such loud statements. You are going to tell us about some cases here, but look a little at the history of the past 25 years. What was then and what is now. Where was Belarus then, and where now. Anyone who wants to-works, who does not want to scream.
      My father is now suing the cops and what - Old Man is guilty that the cops interpret the rules as they want?
      Then look at Holland with ukroinu.
      1. vomag
        vomag 15 October 2015 10: 39 New
        +3
        Well, firstly, not you, and YOU secondly, it’s not necessary to arrange a talking room about your family difficulties ... only facts gentlemen and comrades, only facts .. the Kuyeva junta of onions helps? yes it helps .. they beckoned with cookies and all at once The Russian base, as it were, is not needed! right now the sanctions were lifted from him for 4 months .. I’m banging something else he will throw a vile thing about Russia ...
        1. AlexAl
          AlexAl 15 October 2015 11: 27 New
          -1
          The fact I brought, you did not see him. Prabach - you, with whom I respect, are not your case.
          do not, not with verbs is written separately.
          one or the other is written with a hyphen.
          If you want to communicate by the rules, then follow them everywhere, otherwise spit on them.

          On the forum you and you can both - rules allow.
          In the west, appeals in the form you do not exist.

          Are you a vangues or facts?
          1. vomag
            vomag 15 October 2015 11: 53 New
            +1
            The facts speak for themselves about the actions of eternally luchazarnaga .. yes I sometimes write with errors (it happens) .. I’m good at wang ...
            1. AlexAl
              AlexAl 15 October 2015 12: 23 New
              0
              Facts say it.
              According to MH-17 there are many facts, but things are still there.
              In fact above, here they are, but they are not.
              Look a little further, I'm talking about history and do not make hysteria.
              In fact-Belarus, for Russia is an ally at the moment and was him before, whatever you shouted here. In fact, the Russian air defense station is constantly standing and operating on the territory of Belarus, and the armed forces of Belarus are constantly in exercises with the Russians.
              And your airfield is a Russian business, it’s not today, but tomorrow it already is.


              So go ahead and wang. Well, mathematics help you (this is about facts in history), there are sections related to quantization, and integration sections.

              But there is only one conclusion - the larger the length of time you take, the more accurate the picture you get, this applies to technology and life, to the state and to politics.


              "Wangyu good ..." - I do not believe it! Any recommendations?
        2. tolian
          tolian 15 October 2015 11: 56 New
          -1
          Vomag, do not write more here. It’s impossible for a normal person to read you. You are absolutely illiterate, but with what aplomb! With aplomb du..ka stuffed.
          1. vomag
            vomag 15 October 2015 12: 30 New
            +1
            Get comfortable you are ours ... on the substance of the issue, unsubscribe, and wish all sorts of wishes there to your children ..
            1. AlexAl
              AlexAl 15 October 2015 13: 22 New
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              Quote: vomag
              Get comfortable you are ours .. on the merits unsubscribe

              You say: "first of all for you."
              1. vomag
                vomag 15 October 2015 13: 58 New
                +1
                Duck is not for you, sir was addressed! But absolutely competent who likes to be rude ..
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      3. tolian
        tolian 15 October 2015 11: 52 New
        -2
        Have you noticed who you are trying to talk to? After all, he had no other education besides the zone. And I want to communicate.
    2. tolian
      tolian 15 October 2015 11: 50 New
      -2
      Ill, be educated. After all, another embryo, crawled out onto people.
    3. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 15 October 2015 13: 55 New
      +3
      Lukashenko and Putin act in conjunction, only the latter in its place, and the former undercover.

      And so the picture is seen, Putin meets with Lukashenko in a safe house and Putin says here:
      - Do not recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia, let everyone see how independent you are;
      - when you go to Kiev, say that you had to fight for the Crimea and that means killing Russian soldiers;
      - Do not send a single humcon convoy to the Donbass, because you are against the Russian world, let old people and children die of hunger and lack of medicine;
      - when I instruct the Russian government to conclude an agreement on the creation of an air base, say that you know nothing about this and substitute me;
      - at a meeting in Astana, agree to the air base, but ask again for money.
      How tired of these stupid conspiracy theological versions.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 46 New
        +2
        Anatole -thank you, I am writing about the same time ...
  11. Vladimir
    Vladimir 15 October 2015 09: 41 New
    -4
    Whatever the case, Lukashenko did not quarrel with anyone. Even the West turned a blind eye to the not-so-democratic elections, because for him a country with a stable economy and order is better than in Ukraine.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 10: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir 
      for not very democratic elections

      What is it like? Observers were from different countries, you cannot order everyone. The bulk of the people for the Old Man, fact.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 16 October 2015 00: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        What is it like? Observers were from different countries, you can’t order everyone

        From different, it's a fact. And ours cheer happily, as one, how cool it all went! geyropery expressed MUCH more restrainedly, in the spirit that "there were some violations .. but in general it can be accepted as democratic."
        The Americans were the most angry, saying the elections were "far from democratic."
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 October 2015 00: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: avia1991
          The Americans are the worst angry

          they carry water on angry and put the device laughing
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 16 October 2015 00: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            they carry water on angry and put the appliance

            It was about the concept of "not entirely democratic" .. Proceeding from the fact that the United States is a "stronghold of world democracy", after their words it turns out that the elections were "NON-democratic"! wassat
            The trouble with the Americans is that they have American democracy and Belarus in Belarus .. lol AND WHAT WILL YOU DO ?!
            PS Two comments, look, Comrade Private Airborne? Is the checker still dull? .. laughing
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 16 October 2015 02: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: avia1991
              Is the checker still dull ?.

              The soldier’s hand was tired of stabbing! Have you heard a song about an armored train?)
              And about Our Great Military Secret, I’ll say nothing to these bourgeois! angry
              Quote: avia1991
              that they have American democracy, and in Belarus - Belarusian ..

              mdyayaya, and in the Russian Federation - RF wink
  12. van zai
    van zai 15 October 2015 09: 43 New
    10
    In any article about Belarus, one can only hear "Russophobia, Russophobia!" Citizens! I want to ask you, where did you get this information from ?! Have you ever been to Belarus yourself? Did you talk to the people living there? Not with paid opposition, but with ordinary people? We are only FOR a strong Russia. Because our well-being directly depends on yours.
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 15 October 2015 10: 20 New
      +1
      I 100% agree, it’s another matter when some people nod like they clamped on my shoulders, the salary is small and so on. Most shout like best in the West, having seen enough in tourist trips to Italy, France. And how people pay taxes, communal services, some does not think.
      For example, in the United States they pay taxes once a year, if the single tax in Belarus is 1500000 rubles, then multiply this amount by 12, they brushed a pumpkin for scratching 1000 bucks. And these are just trifles, but people earn there no longer argue but spend more.
      If on the right then correct.
      1. 0255
        0255 15 October 2015 11: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: 2s1122
        I 100% agree, it’s another matter when some people nod like they clamped on my shoulders, the salary is small and so on. Most shout like best in the West, having seen enough in tourist trips to Italy, France. And how people pay taxes, communal services, some does not think.
        For example, in the United States they pay taxes once a year, if the single tax in Belarus is 1500000 rubles, then multiply this amount by 12, they brushed a pumpkin for scratching 1000 bucks. And these are just trifles, but people earn there no longer argue but spend more.
        If on the right then correct.

        Regular nonsense from BT where "everyone's truncated is bad, but in our astrauke there is no stability and primacy of truncated harasho, kryzis and devalvatsi"?
        1. tolian
          tolian 15 October 2015 11: 59 New
          0
          0255, well, why, no matter how negative commentary, is it written so illiterate? Marginals write them, or what?
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 16 October 2015 00: 12 New
            0
            Quote: tolian
            0255, well, why, no matter how negative commentary, is it written so illiterate?

            And where did you find the negative statements?
            The man wrote real things, WHAT confused you? Neighbor's reaction?
            And by the way: What kind of comment are you writing, WHO are you responding to? Please provide a reference, otherwise it is difficult to understand you. You don’t understand: whether to applaud - or to climb into a bottle? request
            lol
        2. minipig79
          minipig79 15 October 2015 23: 59 New
          0
          Honestly, it feels like our KGB writes half of the posts. That's what I never understood, as people who live not in this country, I know better than the Belarusians themselves, whom they love or dislike, whether they are glad to the leader or not, whether they like domestic politics or are sick of it. And such things as the parasitism law or the rule of gathering more than 3 people or in court for clapping, they know nothing. They only glorify this idol. So take it to yourself, most of the Belarusians will fold and pay more!
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 16 October 2015 00: 25 New
            0
            Quote: minipig79
            So take it to yourself, most of the Belarusians will fold and pay more!

            Well .. if everything is so awful - why are you (not you personally) HIS, like sheep, almost unanimously "for the kingdom"? ..
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 45 New
      +1
      In any article about Belarus, one can only hear "Russophobia, Russophobia!" Citizens! I want to ask you, where did you get this information from ?! Have you ever been to Belarus yourself? Did you talk to the people living there?


      To all Belarusians calling to check the situation in Belarus: I want to feel the support of the brotherly people of Belarus, living in Russia.
      I do not need to be treated and say warm words.
      It is enough that Belarus, in difficult times for the Russians, its president, its army was on our side.
      Like in Ossetia, Syria, Donbas ...

      After that, ALL questions will disappear.

      But alas, this is not observed. request
      1. minipig79
        minipig79 16 October 2015 00: 02 New
        +1
        The president and the population are two big differences. I’ll answer for myself, God forbid, there will be some sort of mess and hitting the Russian Federation, I’ll give up everything and go to defend it. And this is not the only and unique opinion in Belarus.
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  13. flSergius
    flSergius 15 October 2015 12: 05 New
    +1
    The example of Urkaina really influenced the Belarusian society. In 2010, most Russophobes crawled out onto the square, but ordinary people dissatisfied with the economic situation, they were cleverly used by provocateurs. This year, on Saturday, Svidomo marched in the center of Minsk: they wrote that 800, there really were a herd of 300 goals, along with journalists. A thousand could get out on election day, but by 23:00 they had resolved - beer had fallen in price on the street -5 * C, a provocateur with a goat beard carried some gag in a megaphone, did not even prepare to see))))) And for example of 2012 to celebrate some little-known anniversary of something there in Pshechi Pshepolitoy, already 2000 crawled into the park.
    But the number of Svidomo youngsters for whom the purpose of existence is beha and iPad does not cancel this.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 39 New
      +2
      In 2010, the inhabitants got into the square mostly not from Russophobes, but ordinary people who were dissatisfied with the economic situation, were provocatively used by them


      If the economy is not reformed (in a good sense of the word), the number of those who are dissatisfied will grow exponentially ..
      1. 0255
        0255 15 October 2015 23: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Olezhek
        In 2010, the inhabitants got into the square mostly not from Russophobes, but ordinary people who were dissatisfied with the economic situation, were provocatively used by them


        If the economy is not reformed (in a good sense of the word), the number of those who are dissatisfied will grow exponentially ..

        Exactly, at least one of the commentators from the Russian Federation knows what the Belarusian "stability" is
  14. alicante11
    alicante11 15 October 2015 13: 20 New
    0
    What is striking, Europe, apparently saturated with American pressure, not only did not react to the election results with restraint, but also lifted sanctions against the Belarusian government for 4 of the month.


    In fact, the abolition of sanctions was promised so that there was something to blackmail But father during Belomaidan. However, the idea was not so hot. Probably, they believed that But father decided to integrate European. Although, most likely, the sanctions were lifted from officials who should have merged Father But, like the dill bureaucrats of Yanuk. However, it seems that there is a bummer. Even banderlogs with bits were not missed.
  15. 1536
    1536 15 October 2015 19: 15 New
    +1
    For me, if there are no NATO military bases in Belarus, American advisers, contingents, etc. If they don't shout at every corner "The Russians, Russia and Putin are to blame for everything." If the Nobel laureates, who were born in Belarus, are honest, decent people, and not liars, then everyone on our planet will feel good and calm from this.
  16. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 15 October 2015 19: 43 New
    +1
    The point is not only in the approach of the "father", but the people of Belarus also witnessed the Maidan.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 36 New
      0
      After that, to change the course and in general something I think cardinally, many sensible ones have disappeared.


      In addition to Maidan S. and S. Old Man, there are still many good things in this life.

      Life is not limited to the choice between horseradish and redka, zrada and butka ... am
  17. Minsker
    Minsker 15 October 2015 20: 23 New
    +2
    This article reminded me of an episode from the movie "Courier". If anyone remembers there, one granny at the table says:
    - "Our youth are heroic! I watch TV every day, and I assure you that I know our youth very well."

    I have everything on this subject. Reasonable - enough
  18. Olezhek
    Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 22 New
    0
    You see, I would like to believe, but now I live in Russia. And I would like to believe, living in Russia, and not coming specifically to Belarus.
    And something sour for now ...
    Here, even, leaving Yu Ossetia alone.
    Take, for example, the latest sanctions against Russia and the Old Man, who did not introduce food sanctions against the EU, on the contrary - he rushed to make money on re-export ..
    I got tired of listening EVERY TIME of explanation - but in fact ... I want to SEE a positive ... YET I don’t see. Here I do not see and that's it.
    Ruddle ..
  19. intsurfer
    intsurfer 15 October 2015 21: 24 New
    +2
    there is no Russophobia in Belarus. A simple example: we came to friends by car. We stand in the appointed place, wait. the car blinks an emergency gang to make us noticeable, we walk around it. A young guy walked by and suddenly came up to us. We all tensed up. And he asks if they need help, where to spend, etc. It became a shame that we have such habits, as if we came from a wild forest ... It is unusual when strangers try to help you.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 29 New
      +1
      A young guy passed by and suddenly approached us. We all tensed. And he asks, they say, whether help is needed, where he can go, etc.


      Komrad - I guarantee - in Germany, the reaction of a passerby could be the same
  20. Olezhek
    Olezhek 15 October 2015 21: 28 New
    0
    By the way, out of interest - offtopic - there is such a "business newspaper Vzglyad"
    Top War is militarism
    and there mostly politics
    Type in the search-Lukashenko and read the comments ..
    And you take and read ... yes
  21. Bibliographer
    Bibliographer 15 October 2015 22: 06 New
    0
    I completely agree with the author! As they say - See the root !!! For once in an article, a person has put on the shelves not only what is visible on the top! But he looked into the depths!
  22. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 15 October 2015 22: 44 New
    0
    All is well, a beautiful marquise, and we are doing well.
    But fate, as we see from the whim, presented us with its blow.
    The Russians squeezed the "rusty" pipe. Otherwise, everything is fine.
    In 2011, 1 $ - 3000 Belarusian rubles, and in 2015 - 18000 Belarusian rubles (interest is steeper than any contribution). Otherwise, everything is fine.
    Factories switched to part-time work. Otherwise, everything is fine.
    More than 1000000 went to work in the Russian Federation. Otherwise, everything is fine.
    1. minipig79
      minipig79 16 October 2015 00: 12 New
      0
      So, for the most part, commentators somehow do not understand that our people live in the 90s. Every couple of years, permanent crises. And constantly the president has someone to blame. There, people bought up the currency, they themselves are to blame for the devaluation. There is a global crisis (about which the authorities croaked intensely that we do not have a crisis) - devaluation. There, the Russian Federation imposed sanctions, we have a devaluation. All my life you just hear some excuses. And the fact that for 21 years they were in f * ck, so they stayed there, for this the king does not answer. And the good Russians praise yet, as we were lucky. UGH! Cheto none of them goes here to work. And they sing that the wise helmsman has done justice with us, and whoever is dissatisfied and says this is bought by the West or someone’s agent. And what they can sincerely hate our Kozlevich, they do not allow this. They know better from somewhere from Russia ...
  23. Glagol1
    Glagol1 15 October 2015 23: 36 New
    0
    It is necessary to fight for Belarus 365 days
    in a year, otherwise torn off. There is another topic -
    support for any anti-Anglo-Saxon
    forces in the world, let the Saxons be afraid. You can even
    Cannibals, the main thing is that they are Saxons
    burst. And then the Saxons will start to think
    Is it worth it to tear off the Republic of Belarus if anti-Saxons
    can take cover, heal, strengthen
    and so on in our uncontrolled territory.
    1. minipig79
      minipig79 16 October 2015 00: 13 New
      0
      Start fighting tomorrow. Write your bank card details in PM?
  24. Asura
    Asura 16 October 2015 01: 07 New
    0
    RB Anglo-Saxon can not be given. It is a pity that we have pro-Western liberals and young people very fond of fairy-tale Europe.
  25. Ustyuzhanin-35
    Ustyuzhanin-35 17 October 2015 15: 30 New
    0
    Good afternoon!
    I would like to express my point of view on Belarus. Throughout my long life, at the mention of the concept of "Belarus", something warm and good always appeared in my soul. They are BROTHERS to us !!! good I have never lived there, but would really like to. Tell me, how not to respect the people who suffered such losses in the Second World War and retained their way and their traditions? And what a beautiful nature there !!! I believe that Belarus is ours, dear! If you want, let's discuss. I'm ready.
    A small fact: periodically, fairs selling Belarusian products are organized in our city (manufacturers themselves come from Belarus), so there are always lines. Quality!