In Donetsk, again presented the map of the location of the Ukrainian "Bukov", marked by the time of the death of passengers MH-17

Representatives of the Donetsk People’s Republic showed a map showing the positions of the Ukrainian air defense systems in the Donbas region in July 2014. The deputy head of the defense department of the DPR, Eduard Basurin, notes that this document is a trophy - it was left with officers of the 1 battalion of the 95 separate airmobile brigade along with other important documentation. Basurin recalls that the Donetsk map was already shown some time after the crash of the Boeing, but then in Kiev and in the West it was called a fake. Now, Basurin believes, the real map of real Ukrainian positions is becoming even more relevant, since it unequivocally confirms the conclusions made by the specialists of the Almaz-Antey concern.


Donetsk News Agency quotes Eduard Basurin:
This document, in our opinion, is a direct evidence confirming the guilt of the Ukrainian soldiers in the destruction of the Malaysian "Boeing". (...) On this map, the launch positions of the Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile systems are marked. One position is located near the settlement of Gruzsko-Zoryanskoe, three kilometers west of Ilovaisk, the second is two kilometers south of Shakhtersk, near the settlement of Zaroshchenskoye, at a height marked 224.8. That is exactly where the Russian experts indicated.




Basurin continues:
Any sane person, having studied all the official evidence, including the maps presented by us, cannot but conclude that if the Boeing 777 was brought down from the ground, it could only be from the territory controlled by the Ukrainian army at that time Zaroshchenskoye village - and from weapons, still in service with the Ukrainian army.


Should we expect that Kiev recognizes the involvement of the Ukrainian military to the strike on MH-17, given that Kiev still does not recognize the strike on the Tu-154 in 2001? .. Rosaviatsiya reports that Ukraine has not officially recognized its guilty of the horrible incident over the Black Sea, when the teachings of the Ukrainian army led to the death of airliner passengers. According to the deputy head of the Federal Air Navigation Agency, Oleg Storchevoy, compensation to the families of those killed by Ukraine has not been paid even 14 years after the tragedy.
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  1. Sasha 19871987 14 October 2015 14: 29 New
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    common sense is not always present among politicians ... And it’s already pleasing that the Golanians are scolding Ukrainians, that they did not block the sky in the conflict zone !!! About the rocket, so the guys from Almaz-Antey have already dotted everything and decided not to suffer from Baltology and just carried out a series of visual explosions, so to speak, instead of a thousand words ...
    1. Baikonur 14 October 2015 14: 31 New
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      But I will quote the philosopher (I don’t remember who): the truth ALWAYS will strike its way!
      + How much the rope does not curl - the end will always be enough!
      I really hope and wait for the confirmation of these true sayings!
      And confirmation of the honest name of Donbass!
      Good luck to them!
      1. stonks 14 October 2015 16: 59 New
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        There is (if still alive) a whole bunch of people who provided and carried out the launch of the rocket.
        There should be a bunch of launch witnesses (a very noisy and spectacular event) from the civilians in the area from where the launch was made.
        Interestingly, but this is the village of Zaroshchansky NOW UNDER WHICH CONTROL?

        So, I also think that the truth will come up!
    2. vovanpain 14 October 2015 14: 34 New
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      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      common sense is not always present among politicians ... and it’s already pleasing that the Golanians are scolding Ukrainians, that they haven’t covered the skies in the conflict zone, and about the rocket guys from ALmaz-Antey have already dotted all about the ill-fated rocket

      Everyone knows perfectly well who and when shot down, now the mattresses will remove ukrov from under the blow of their slaves, and then this miserable Boeing will begin to wreck
      1. MIKHALYCH1 14 October 2015 14: 51 New
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        Quote: vovanpain
        Everyone knows perfectly well who and when shot down, now the mattresses will remove ukrov from under the blow of their slaves, and then this miserable Boeing will begin to wreck

        There are satellite images, but they are not yet laid out so that the US does not substitute! We are not touching Ukraine yet ... But we are working quietly in Syria (well, there are screams, of course)))) However, Russia still benefits from this, but soon (although nobody will need it in the West anymore ..) Ukraine is no longer a state , so ... thank Valtsman!
        1. Andrea 14 October 2015 15: 01 New
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          A lot of things were passed by and the rules were violated.
          Therefore, I can not understand the Dutch in any way, because it is THEM citizens who died!
          Are they really on such a strong hook that they are ready to drain everything.
          Yes, from the very beginning of the investigation, it was clear that they were not going to investigate a damn thing.
          Customize the investigation to the assigned result.
          1. KazaK Bo 14 October 2015 15: 16 New
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            Andrea
            A lot of things were passed by and the rules were violated.
            Therefore, I can not understand the Dutch in any way, because it is THEM citizens who died!
            Are they really on such a strong hook that they are ready to drain everything.

            A 2-hour press conference was held by the Deputy Head of the Federal Air Transport Agency. He did not leave stone upon stone from the arguments and arguments of the report of the Dutch commission. I didn’t say directly, but between the lines of his phrases it didn’t even sound, and SCREAMED “THIS REPORT IS AN ACTION FOR COVERING PROVOCATION OF THE WEST IN DONBASS FOR THAT TO TAKE THE MOST HARDEST MEASURES TO RUSSIA" !!!
            Therefore, when an international provocation is carried out, then the WEST has enough Cynicism and meanness to sacrifice with its citizens in order to create objectivity visibility !!!
            By the way, MALAYSIA EXPRESSED A PROTEST IN CONNECTION WITH NOT INCLUDING INFORMATION AND PROPOSALS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION DURING THE PREPARATION OF THE REPORT! And they promised to protest this report. In the beginning, together with Australia, they were the most furious accusers of Russia. The truth finds support.
            1. Amurets 14 October 2015 15: 53 New
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              Well, what was the noise? It was voiced immediately after the incident with the airliner. There was exact evidence that was destroyed by the grinders and artillery of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. But for some reason we started to lose the information war. And the reason seems to be that the elections were recognized as legitimate, they returned the ambassador to Ukraine .The operation was conceived for a long time, perhaps even during 08; 08; 08. That's just done rudely. Why were not the "proofs" from facehari and "tweet forty" refuted. That the hackers were remoted to throw fakes. You might think that these figures are smart enough enter a complicated password. Uyfoshi before hacking, well, it was a very complicated password, as much as 40 zeros. And this perverted lie was dragged on for a year and a half. You accuse me, immediately provide evidence. Due to our lack of skill, we lost more than one information war.
              1. Midshipman 14 October 2015 16: 34 New
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                I do not agree that they lost. On the contrary - they let them lie to the fullest, and then they brought them to clean water. It’s important not even that they will believe us or not, but that no one else will believe them.
                1. Amurets 14 October 2015 18: 15 New
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                  Midshipman! While the war is going on. What will happen later I don’t know. So we won’t rush. I’m talking about other and more information wars. We lost the war for K-129, We lost the war with the Boeings over Sakhalin and the Bering Sea. Read the book if you find , the hot sky of the cold war. In the 80s there was an article about the Aegis system in the Youth Tech magazine. There is also about the Sakhalin incident and the results of the investigation of the French Pilot Association, which proved that a reconnaissance plane and passenger Boeing Korea Airlines were shot down over Sakhalin Americans shot down over the Sangarsky Strait. So it is naive to think that there used to be quiet, smoothness and God's grace. At Pvošnikov there was a war and a hot war.
          2. ver_ 14 October 2015 15: 30 New
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            ... you would think that any other country would be very worried about the search for truth in this situation ..
    3. Balu495 14 October 2015 15: 31 New
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      Hundreds of calculations and calculations, field experiments, computer simulations, hardware recordings of observations using the orbiting satellite constellation, dozens of polls of witnesses located in different regions, comparing and analyzing information received from them, subsequent analysis of the entire array of both structured and unstructured information and conclusions based on the analysis of this array with links to generally recognized methods of such analysis ... All this for more than a year now, Russian experts have been presenting as part of an investigation of the Boeing tragedy in the sky over the Donbass ...

      And all this work is crossed out and canceled by just one Tymchuk tweet, which the Western expert community unconditionally believes ...
  2. Finches 14 October 2015 14: 29 New
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    Unfortunately, for all "progressive humanity" the truth is neither necessary nor interesting! But you need to talk about it constantly and loudly - the USA and their lackey Ukraine are killers!
    1. Frigate 14 October 2015 14: 40 New
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      Quote: Finches
      Unfortunately, for all "progressive humanity" the truth is neither necessary nor interesting! But you need to talk about it constantly and loudly - the USA and their lackey Ukraine are killers!

      Oh, did you still beat Benny, or is Benya out of business? Or is Benya a Ukrainian? smile
  3. Vyacheslav 64 14 October 2015 14: 30 New
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    Well, Americans can’t admit the truth, they just can’t.
    1. Lelek 14 October 2015 17: 35 New
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      Quote: Vyacheslav 64
      Well, Americans can’t admit the truth, they just can’t.


      And you do not strain. They can’t - and to hell with them. It will find the truth, or it is not true.
      It is much more relevant that the Bandera leadership torpedoes the implementation of the Minsk memorandum, and their "guarantors" turned their backs and pretend that they are not in the know. This is the main thing now. belay
  4. Abbra 14 October 2015 14: 31 New
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    These guys from the Netherlands will never prove the obvious. All sold and purchased by the States. This is called - throwing beads in front of pigs.
  5. chikenous59 14 October 2015 14: 33 New
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    At least someone shot down, no one pleads guilty! Perhaps they will simply try to hush everything up and not arrange any tribunal.
  6. gas113 14 October 2015 14: 40 New
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    The title of the article cuts both the plural and singular in one bottle. Not literate but somehow in the title ....
    1. Amurets 14 October 2015 16: 01 New
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      So the same Ukrainians wrote, and the Russian language is not known to them.
  7. Stinger 14 October 2015 14: 43 New
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    Any sane person ... cannot help but conclude that if the Boeing 777 was knocked down from the ground, it could only be from the territory controlled at that time by the Ukrainian army - the village of Zaroshchenskoye - and from weapons still since being in service with the Ukrainian army.


    So the sane person will see the same thing, not the expert with his eyes closed, and even in the NATO hangar, where the fragments of the liner were collected!
  8. Lena Alena 14 October 2015 14: 47 New
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    "Everyone knows perfectly well who and when shot down, now the mattresses will remove ukrov from the blows of their slaves, and then this unfortunate Boeing will begin to wreck"
    In a set of recent events, maybe they won’t ...
  9. Serg koma 14 October 2015 14: 49 New
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    Common sense - (minus) ia = dill winked
  10. dr.star75 14 October 2015 14: 56 New
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    The investigation has already fulfilled its main task: the commission has clowned the whole world for a year! Most of them are not just about the "male organ", everyone has already forgotten about the incident itself. I would not be surprised if they soon begin to write: was there a Boeing?
  11. sl22277 14 October 2015 15: 00 New
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    Nevertheless, a small step towards the truth, albeit small, but done. The Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 passenger plane, flying MH17 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), was shot down on July 17, 2014 over Donbass, which resulted in the painful death of 283 passengers and 15 crew members - citizens of 10 states. Ukraine was named legally responsible for this. The West really wanted to nail Russia to the pillory, but instead it already turned out to be the Poroshenko regime of Ukraine, which, as usual, is throwing everything at Moscow.
  12. veksha50 14 October 2015 15: 01 New
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    "According to the deputy head of the Federal Air Transport Agency Oleg Storchevoy,compensation to the families of the victims of Ukraine was not paid and 14 years after the tragedy"...

    And why ??? This is - world practice ... Yes, because they forgave the "brothers Slavs" ...

    And our planes over Georgia, shot down by weapons and calculations from the Stryi anti-aircraft missile regiment (deployed in the city of Stryi, Lviv region) ??? It also somehow got away with it ... And then they didn’t even notice what Ukraine was going to ...

    And the participation of ukroboevikov on the Chechen side, against Russia ??? Also, none of the boyars and rulers did not notice ...

    And now we wash ourselves, chop off, brush off ... It's time to put this viper before the facts, strangle it economically ...

    And enough of these excuses ... tired ...
    1. Amurets 14 October 2015 16: 13 New
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      veksha50. Not in the subject. I dropped a link and a comment there in an article about the Okinawan governor.
    2. figter 14 October 2015 17: 43 New
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      By the way, it would be nice to take samples of rock fragments from there and compare them with the fragments of the missile that shot down the Boeing. I would not be surprised if they are also one party and sent to one military unit. At least passed through the same arsenal or base. Missile relatively not so much released. Accounting was still the time of the USSR. If you work hard, then you can raise it all.
  13. Reptiloid 14 October 2015 15: 01 New
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    In my opinion, they will always be blamed for the whole of Russia. Moreover, attempts to rewrite history in general and the Great Patriotic War, in particular, continue. Now it happens in our schools at history lessons. And the teachers who do not understand what this is about? Children in LDNR received the hardest lesson American stories.
  14. Kiroant 14 October 2015 15: 18 New
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    Yes, even if the very “heroislav” themselves provide live video recordings from the position of Urbobuk, anyway the “owner” will be discarded, all the same Putin V.V. will be extreme.
  15. Gormenghast 14 October 2015 15: 22 New
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    Everything is solved simply.

    Are there satellite images of the moment of the disaster? There is; they cannot fail to be, given how universal people follow our country. They are not shown. Why? Because something is wrong with them.

    Are there negotiations between Ukrainian dispatchers and a Boeing? Of course; the crew did not suffer dumbness, nor did the controllers. Ukraine hides them. Why? Because there is something wrong.

    Is there accounting for Buk-o missiles in Ukraine? Here it may well turn out that it does not exist (although this cannot be in any normal country). Ukrainians can imagine the situation - these are our missiles, so much is used then and then; here is the rest. They may, they should be able to, but they don’t. Why? Lack, apparently (although here, of course, there may be theft, with the sale to the side, these are Ukrainians wassat ).

    "Seek out who benefits." Is this situation beneficial for militias? Clearly not; can declare terrorists. Is it profitable for Russia? Of course not. The result of this ukrov provocation is illegal blasphemous sanctions.

    The beneficiaries in this situation are the USA and Ukraine. Even the EU has not received any benefits from this. Among the beneficiaries, and you need to look for those responsible.
  16. cniza 14 October 2015 15: 32 New
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    Quote: Gormengast
    Everything is solved simply.



    The beneficiaries in this situation are the USA and Ukraine. Even the EU has not received any benefits from this. Among the beneficiaries, and you need to look for those responsible.



    The EU also knew everything and is silent, so that they are all smeared in one world.
  17. Region 23 14 October 2015 15: 42 New
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    Press conference of the Federal Air Transport Agency on the report of the Netherlands on the causes of the crash of MH 17
  18. individual 14 October 2015 15: 43 New
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    It’s enough for us to mumble and make excuses.
    Counter-arguments on the accusation of the West in the death of MN-17 are presented and the point.
    The truth must be with your teeth!
    1. Saratoga833 14 October 2015 16: 13 New
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      Quote: individ
      The truth must be with your teeth!

      And good with fists!
  19. Foxmara 14 October 2015 15: 46 New
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    What was Ukrainian air defense doing there ?? Our TAM planes did not fly, the DPR does not have them, in any case it wasn’t then.
  20. demo 14 October 2015 15: 51 New
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    Any sane person, having studied all the official evidence, including the cards presented by us, cannot but come to the conclusion that if the Boeing 777 was knocked down from the ground, it could only be from the territory controlled at that time by the Ukrainian army - the village of Zaroschenskoye - and from the weapons still in service with the Ukrainian army.

    The key phrase is "Any sane person."
    Those who made the decision to bring down the Boeing, those who carried out this decision. and those who try to look like innocent sheep are not sane - they are abnormal people. More precisely, nonhumans.
  21. tovaris_s 14 October 2015 15: 52 New
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    You think these freaks are in vain d. Bilami. Russia’s blocking the topic of the tribunal was easy to calculate. It’s much more difficult to cover dill. You played with Taburetkin before your eyes. Who was surprised? There are plenty of their craftsmen. Do not be surprised, Parasya excuses the State Department. It's crooked, but for the time being productive. But now the “tribunal” can be closed and you can be fired!
  22. slaw14 14 October 2015 15: 57 New
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    A couple of days before the tragedy, the Ukrainian was looking through the news summary, the arrival of Bukov in the anti-terrorist operation zone was shown there, in an interview the calculation commanders claimed that they had arrived at the exercises for practicing attacks on a conditional enemy and covering Ukrainian airspace from Russian pilots. After the disaster, the archive disappeared, as indeed the Ukrainian Buki themselves. But no matter how Ukrainians claimed the absence of this equipment in the ATO zone, it nevertheless lit up: the day before the tragedy
    look with 4:43
  23. stonks 14 October 2015 17: 04 New
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    Quote: Andrea
    Are they really on such a strong hook that they are ready to drain everything.
    Yes, from the very beginning of the investigation, it was clear that they were not going to investigate a damn thing.
    Customize the investigation to the assigned result.

    Unfortunately, that’s it.
    Politics is the dirtiest and meanest occupation of those in the world.
    And in politics go the most ruthless and unprincipled people - IMHO.
  24. Bekas1967 14 October 2015 19: 40 New
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    Everything is simple. Having recognized that they shot down the APU, you will have to answer your citizens questions about the sanctions imposed against us. The overwhelming majority of Europeans did not doubt the Russian trace, and then it suddenly turns out that everything is completely wrong !!! what a breakdown in consciousness what a lie from their governments .. how to explain the sanctions and accusatory rhetoric that have been going on all this time? Therefore, they will never admit the truth and will slowly merge ... release on the brakes (((