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Mi-38 certification tests come to an end

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Medium-lift helicopter Mi-38 completes certification tests, reports MIC with reference to Interfax-AVN. "




“The type certificate for the Mi-38 helicopter will be received in December of this year. A certificate of category “B” will be received on the Mi-38, which allows the implementation of air transportation, ”an informed source told the agency.

“A number of complex certification tests have already been completed, the main gearbox has successfully passed the 1,4 overload test,” he said.

“The windshield, the swashplate thrust, the blades were fired at" bird carcasses, "said the source.

According to him, "today it remains to complete about 90 tasks from approximately 300 tasks provided by the certification program."

The interlocutor noted that “the TV38-7V engines developed by OAO Klimov are installed on the Mi-117”.

“It is expected that by December of the current year the engine resource will be increased by Klimov to 1 thousand hours with the subsequent transition of the resource“ as ”.”

The first flight of the Mi-38 took place at 2003. Currently, there are 4 prototype machines. It was originally intended to equip the helicopter with American-made PW127TS engines. However, the United States stopped their delivery to the Russian Federation.
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Anton Tsyupka / www / airforce.ru
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  1. mQn
    mQn 14 October 2015 13: 39 New
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    The first flight of the Mi-38 took place in 3003: D Correct
    1. WE ARE MAKING
      WE ARE MAKING 14 October 2015 13: 47 New
      11
      fixed - "will be held in 3003"

      Just kidding :)
      1. ivan bogomolov
        ivan bogomolov 14 October 2015 14: 12 New
        +1
        1003g., Just kidding)))) your Tsiolkovsky)))) good
      2. Kostyar
        Kostyar 14 October 2015 14: 30 New
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        Initially, it was supposed to equip the helicopter with American-made PW127TS engines. However, the United States stopped their supply to the Russian Federation.

        Thanks to the USA (God forgive me) for the termination of supplies !!!
  2. dummy
    dummy 14 October 2015 13: 42 New
    +4
    Along the way, the topic of engines. Interestingly, Boeing is now not very sad that he gave so many bribes to Russian air transportation companies for the purchase of their air junk? Indeed, under sanctions it can not be thrown off to Russia. Finally, will our Tu and Dry fly?
    1. FID
      FID 14 October 2015 14: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: Dummy
      Finally, will our Tu and Dry fly?

      No! Trash will be dumped ... At the last MAKS, a representative of the "watermelon" said that in 10 years, the number of foreign aircraft operated in Russia will double and reach about 1500 units ...
  3. Engineer
    Engineer 14 October 2015 13: 42 New
    +4
    On closed days at MAKS 2005, they managed to visit the cockpit of the Mi-38. Even without finishing was, it seems, the first flight.
    1. FID
      FID 14 October 2015 14: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      At MAX 2005

      Sorry, 2015, probably ...
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      2. gjv
        gjv 14 October 2015 14: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: SSI
        2015, probably ...

        At MAKS 2015 exhibited second, in red and black ...
      3. bmv04636
        bmv04636 14 October 2015 14: 47 New
        +1
        One wish, but they are unlikely to succeed in sanctioning us. In the same topic
        The Premier of the State Council of the PRC Li Keqiang, speaking on Thursday, September 10, at the "Annual Summit of New Champions", said that the Chinese international payment system CIPS will be launched before the end of 2015.
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    3. gjv
      gjv 14 October 2015 14: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      On closed days at MAKS 2005, they managed to visit the cockpit of the Mi-38. Even without finishing was, it seems, the first flight.

      In 2003, the first flight Mi-38 looked like this.

      To participate in the MAKS-2005 he was painted.

      Do you recognize?
      1. FID
        FID 14 October 2015 14: 55 New
        +3
        It's just ... 12 years old and not certified ... It somehow hurts my eyes. Indeed, in 2013 there is ALREADY a flight instance, to what end the aviation industry was brought !!!!
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        2. gjv
          gjv 14 October 2015 15: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: SSI
          It's just ... 12 years old and not certified ... It somehow hurts my eyes

          So it happened that there is no PrattWhitney, but no TV7-117V. Only in 2015 and began to turn in the direction of production. Huge plans - 50 engines until 2019. This is for 25 cars only. Sadly ...
          1. FID
            FID 14 October 2015 15: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: gjv
            50 engines until 2019. This is for 25 cars only. It’s sad.

            I'm afraid that only for 15-20 cars ... Failures, overfitting, etc.
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 14 October 2015 21: 20 New
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        Quote: gjv
        Do you recognize?


        All the same, the machine looks interesting, albeit not quite "fresh", more solid than the Mi-8. hi
  4. sluganska
    sluganska 14 October 2015 13: 45 New
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    It was supposed to equip the helicopter with American-made PW127TS engines.
    That their engines are few? Why even plan this?
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 14 October 2015 14: 00 New
      +2
      everything is correct, so it has more export potential, and the customer himself can choose which engine he needs.
    2. minipig79
      minipig79 14 October 2015 14: 04 New
      +1
      But what, can you stamp engines for helicopters at home massively? Read first on the topic ...
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt 14 October 2015 15: 13 New
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        Everything is right and for your own military-industrial complex and defense capability is more useful, except for this phrase,
        "Initially, it was planned to equip the helicopter with American-made PW127TS engines. However, the United States stopped supplying them to Russia."
        the question arises: - "Why was the US not afraid that Russia would stop supplying rocket engines to the US?"
    3. gjv
      gjv 14 October 2015 14: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: sluganska
      That their engines are few? Why even plan this?

      There are few of their own engines, unfortunately Klimovtsy are just setting up TV7-117V.
      Quote: Engineer
      all right, so he has more export potential, and the customer himself can choose which engine

      Indeed, when delivering for export, a frequent requirement of a foreign customer is the localization of engine service in the operating country. Pratt & Whitney seems to have fewer problems with this than the Klims.
  5. V.ic
    V.ic 14 October 2015 13: 45 New
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    It is interesting that the input devices of the engines are "camouflaged", the AHP struts on the top, and even the "ears" are whipped up. And the chassis seems to be retracted. Is the HF cable antenna also missing something? A battle for speed? In general, the bird is cute.
    1. FID
      FID 14 October 2015 14: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: V.ic
      Yes, and the chassis seems to be removed.

      I doubt about the "wheels" ... Energy-absorbing racks, and retractable ???
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      2. gjv
        gjv 14 October 2015 14: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: SSI
        I doubt about the "wheels" ...

        Fair. hi The helicopter chassis is energy-absorbing, and there really is nowhere to remove the wheels.
  6. WE ARE MAKING
    WE ARE MAKING 14 October 2015 13: 46 New
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    Give to the Army and to the foreign market!
  7. bogart047
    bogart047 14 October 2015 13: 51 New
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    it’s sad that they originally wanted to put American engines. The plus from sanctions in this area is obvious.
  8. gukoyan
    gukoyan 14 October 2015 13: 52 New
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    "The first flight of the Mi-38 took place in 3003. Currently, there are 4 prototype machines."
    Back to the Future))))
  9. roskot
    roskot 14 October 2015 13: 57 New
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    Thanks to McCain and K. We will put our own. It is somehow more reliable.
  10. drlalex
    drlalex 14 October 2015 14: 05 New
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    But a pretty machine, after all. Although it is still visible that this is MI, it looks quite modern. I read the TTX - everywhere a little better than MI-8, the main thing in reliability is not to concede.
    1. gjv
      gjv 14 October 2015 14: 49 New
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      Quote: drlalex
      But a pretty machine, after all. Although it is still visible that this is MI, it looks quite modern. Read TTX - everywhere a little better than MI-8

      Quote: silberwolf88
      A beautiful helicopter turned out ... and a beautiful technique - it flies well

      Yes, the helicopter is beautiful. However, about flying well - is there a question? Like a helicopter - no doubt flies, and for reliability, I think not bad. But on the quality of use -?
      The author writes:
      The Mi-38 medium-duty helicopter completes certification tests ...

      However, the payload just leaves much to be desired. We need a competitor Chinook with a carrying capacity of 12-15 tons. And then it will be - of medium payload - between the Mi-8 and Mi-26.
  11. barclay
    barclay 14 October 2015 14: 22 New
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    Initially, it was supposed to equip the helicopter with American-made PW127TS engines. However, the United States stopped their supply to the Russian Federation.
    However, we continue to supply them with Antares rocket launchers. Oh, good we are! No.
    I am glad that we have found YOUR replacement for the American unit. I would like to think that we are developing immunity to dependence on such "partners".
  12. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 14 October 2015 14: 40 New
    +1
    A beautiful helicopter turned out ... and a beautiful technique - it flies well))
    And there is more Russian in it ... the USA refused to supply the engine - WONDERFUL ... we will load our plants with high-tech orders ... and let our industry prove itself ... make the work of our engineers popular ...
    1. lukewarm
      lukewarm 14 October 2015 14: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: silberwolf88
      make demand

      free
      Quote: silberwolf88
      labor of our engineers

      wink
  13. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 14 October 2015 14: 45 New
    +2
    .......................




  14. lukewarm
    lukewarm 14 October 2015 14: 47 New
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    [/ quote] Initially, it was supposed to equip the helicopter with American-made PW127TS engines. However, the United States stopped their supply to the Russian Federation. [/ Quote]
    laughing Great news. A wonderful fashion was to shove the western dviglo everywhere. Recently mattress covers launched the Atlas rocket with our NK-33 engines. For military purposes, with a bunch of satellites. Keep it up, domestic defense industry! Money doesn't smell.
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 October 2015 14: 49 New
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    But what will replace the Mi 8?
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    2. gjv
      gjv 14 October 2015 14: 54 New
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      In fact, it will be, because he is not of any "average carrying capacity".
  16. rubidiy
    rubidiy 14 October 2015 14: 59 New
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    I hope this will be the first step in overcoming the stagnation of CB Mil.
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 October 2015 15: 17 New
    +1
    Honestly, it would be better if the Ka-62 were brought to mind. This niche is empty, and in the middle there will be two helicopters at once. And what is the benefit of buying a Mi 38, if there is a Mi 8/17 cheaper and almost the same characteristics? Propellers and Engines can be supplied with Mi-8, a new gearbox from Mi-28 and a new helicopter.
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    2. gjv
      gjv 14 October 2015 15: 24 New
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      Duc and Mi-8/17 and Mi-38 are never "average", but the Ka-62 is generally a lightweight business jet-member. And how to bring it to mind if imported engines are designed for it and there are still many foreign components? And besides, they began to collect August in the Urals.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 October 2015 15: 56 New
        +1
        Ka 60-62 is not light very light - 11-14 seats. A good army car turned out. We are driving the Mi-8 back and forth, and more than half of the flights would have landed on the Ka60. Take the Americans experience.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 October 2015 15: 56 New
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        Ka 60-62 is not light very light - 11-14 seats. A good army car turned out. We are driving the Mi-8 back and forth, and more than half of the flights would have landed on the Ka60. Take the Americans experience.
  18. TIO1969
    TIO1969 14 October 2015 15: 31 New
    +1
    Yes, the project has a difficult story. Perhaps, by his example, one can trace the history of the entire aviation industry in Russia.
    The project originated in the USSR, in 1981 (!). Then it was positioned as a modernization of the Mi-8 in the interests of civilian consumers. Its first designation was Mi-8 M
    The first “blow” to the project was the collapse of the Soviet Union — the termination of cooperation ties and the general economic situation began to significantly slow down the implementation of the project.
    At the same time, it was the Mi-38 that became one of the first examples of international cooperation in the aircraft industry - in 1994, a joint venture was created with the Eurocopter concern (Euromile). Although I do not have a simple attitude towards partnership with Western companies at a time when Russian developers literally revealed themselves to foreign partners. ... but the fact remains
    Then a new economic crisis and exit from the project of the engine developer of the Plant named after Klimova.
    And in the end - the collapse of the joint venture and the exit of Eurocopter from the partnership. In fairness, it must be said that the reason for this decision was the innovation of Russian legislation, which prohibited foreign partners from owning more than 25% in aircraft manufacturing companies. I don’t presume to say it is good or bad, especially from today's points of view ...
    A separate story with the change of engines proposed for the Mi-38. If sequentially: helicopter modifications TV7-117 - projected TV-3000 - helicopter modifications PW-127 - and again TV7-117.
    So the car is suffering, I really want her to succeed !!
  19. Romanenko
    Romanenko 14 October 2015 17: 01 New
    0
    Here are the good fellows "partners" - mattress mats that Pratt and Wittney engines did not give us, we have to make our own! Enough already begging on the side. And the car is very okay!
  20. zinander
    zinander 14 October 2015 20: 31 New
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    Quote: Romanenko
    Here are the good fellows "partners" - mattress mats that Pratt and Wittney engines did not give us, we have to make our own! Enough already begging on the side. And the car is very okay!

    The fact of the matter is that there are still problems with their engines. And the same Canadian engines put on ANSAT, which is also not good. But apparently so far it’s different.