Polish Prime Minister: Poland has reached its strategic goal: we are independent in the gas issue

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Polish Prime Minister Eva Kopach said during the opening ceremony of the LNG terminal in the city of цеwinoujцеcie about the achievement of the strategic goal - independence in the gas issue.



“Now at 90% we can receive gas from other directions, not only from the east. Next year, if we work well, at 100% we will be independent of gas supplies from the east, ”the newspaper quotes her. "Sight".

The Polish Prime Minister noted that thanks to the terminal, Poland would be able to purchase liquefied gas anywhere in the world, receiving it by sea.

“This independence will provide an opportunity to negotiate a gas price,” the politician emphasized.

The decision to build the terminal was made in 2006 year, its construction began in 2011 year, commissioning is scheduled in the middle of 2016 year.

“Before commercial launch, you must first pump technical or buffer gas that will maintain pressure to pump commercial gas. The first LNG tanker will arrive in Swinoujscie in mid-December from Qatar, the second in February-March. The first two batches of LNG are also needed for commissioning and operational tests. As a result, it will take several more months to complete the launch of the terminal with the receipt of additional volumes of gas in the gas transportation system (gas transportation system). ”

The new terminal will allow 5 to store billions of cubic meters of gas - a third of Poland’s annual demand. In the future we plan to expand capacity to 7.5 billion cubic meters.

In any case, the refusal of gas supplies from the Russian Federation in favor of, for example, reverse German will actually become the purchase of Gazprom’s fuel only from intermediaries, which Ukraine has already been doing since the summer, buying reverse European gas at an overestimated cost.
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  1. +50
    14 October 2015 11: 55
    no matter what they think of themselves, Russian gas still burns in their columns and stoves ... and buy the same gas through TUPO intermediaries, if there is nowhere to put the money, let them drown ...
    1. +15
      14 October 2015 11: 56
      Polish Prime Minister Eva Kopacz said that thanks to the terminal Poland will be able to purchase liquefied natural gas anywhere in the world


      And he (gas) himself, under his own power, will get to the terminal for free. Insanity or lack of professionalism? But women should be given discounts on stupid remarks.
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      2. +28
        14 October 2015 11: 58
        In addition to politics, economics are important. They can be bought from different suppliers and at different prices. If they want to pay more, they have the right.
        1. +40
          14 October 2015 12: 14
          oleg-gr
          In addition to politics, economics are important. They can be bought from different suppliers and at different prices. If they want to pay more, they have the right.

          Rightly noticed ... but here there is clearly a clinical diagnosis - "In spite of the conductor I will buy a ticket, but I will go on foot ... to freeze my ears" ... So they will "freeze" - BUYING LNG FROM QATAR AT $ 700/1000 cubic meters m (a contract has already been signed for 10 years at this price on the "TAKE OR PAY" terms) ... Although the "CONDUCTOR", that is, RUSSIA - gas at a price in the region of 250-270 dollars for the same 1000 cubic meters!
          BUT BUT ALL IS DONE FOR INDEPENDENCE! Rather - FROM YOUR MONEY! They do not need Poles!
          1. jjj
            +8
            14 October 2015 12: 27
            I remember once, and Old Man Lukashenko was going to provide the country with cheap Venezuelan oil. But with all the discounts and preferences, it turned out to be unprofitable. To be friends with Russia is cheaper. And the Poles ... well, if the ears spite grandmother freeze, then well done, they know where
            1. +5
              14 October 2015 13: 47
              Liquefied gas will come out at any cost, especially if it is liquefied in sunny Qatar and transported through two oceans.
              1. +1
                15 October 2015 12: 36
                Quote: Mahmut
                Liquefied gas will come out at any cost, especially if it is liquefied in sunny Qatar and transported through two oceans.


                Exactly.
                The words "now it is possible to negotiate the price of gas" sound ridiculous.
                Of course, we can increase the price if they so want competition ...
                So that later they will return it as it was, and they will say that "the Russians have been suppressed." We are not sorry.
                laughing
            2. +4
              14 October 2015 13: 48
              As the saying goes, "You can't forbid living beautifully" smile
          2. +5
            14 October 2015 12: 39
            Polish Prime Minister: we are independent in the gas issue


            The Poles have always been conceited. So this minister demonstrates that he has reached a new level in the practice of auto-suggestion! lol
            1. +2
              14 October 2015 13: 08
              Well, a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck. Some kind of schizaphrenia. We are not cold, it is not hot from this. Let if so they need to reap in two more are paid. us what is up to their diagnosis.
          3. +2
            14 October 2015 14: 20
            As one lady used to say: "What to do if they are idiots?"
          4. +1
            14 October 2015 14: 45
            Quote: KazaK Bo
            BUYING FROM QATAR LNG ON 700 dollars \ per 1000 cubic meters

            Quote: KazaK Bo
            RUSSIA has gas at a price in the region of 250-270 dollars for the same 1000 cubic meters!

            Is this stupidity, stupidity, or overt schizophrenia?
        2. +2
          14 October 2015 12: 30
          Quote: oleg-gr
          If they want to pay more, they have the right.

          In general, journalists and Poles are separate categories of citizens))
          Polish Prime Minister noted that thanks to the terminal Poland will be able to purchase liquefied gas anywhere in the world, receiving it by sea.

          But I want to note (as the Ipolsky prime minister) that they can buy it anywhere in the world where there are liquefaction plants ... in common LNG .. but then on the sea route there may be "pirates" with RPG-7))) no one canceled! and it's not worth talking about safety here ahead of time)))
          1. +2
            14 October 2015 12: 38
            1 - they want to buy through Germany, apparently, cheaper than directly from Russia (and most importantly, it is politically more correct (it is also necessary to bend over to the SCA))

            2 - with the filing of the Americans, preparing to receive their shale gas


            1. +2
              14 October 2015 14: 03
              Quote: bulvas
              1 - they want to buy through Germany, apparently cheaper than directly from Russia (and most importantly, it’s politically more correct (it is also necessary to bend over to the SCA))


              Well, of course ... provided that Russia-Germany will supply gas for free ...

              PS IT directly says that it wants to refuse from the German reverse gas !!!

              After 2-3 years, their budget will climb at the seams ... if not earlier ...
        3. +2
          14 October 2015 13: 45
          will actually become the purchase of Gazprom fuel


          I already wrote, at least one Russian company has learned to work with clever frogs from Europe.
          Well done! Do not want cheap pipe gas from the Russian Federation, buy the same gas, but more expensive, in Germany.
        4. +1
          14 October 2015 19: 51
          Quote: oleg-gr
          In addition to politics, economics are important. They can be bought from different suppliers and at different prices. If they want to pay more, they have the right.

          Yes, the EU is full of countries willing to pay more, but not to Gazprom. Idiocy as a disease is not punishable!
          Lithuania freed itself from energy dependence on Russia and gained access to gas supplies bypassing Gazprom. Lithuanian Energy Minister Rokas Masiulis told DW about how this happened. At the end of October, a liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal ship called Independence arrived at the port of Klaipeda. Its commissioning is scheduled for December 3.
          Read more: http://en.delfi.lt/news/politics/ministr-energetiki-litvy-my-soskochili-s-igly-g

          azproma.d? id = 66551376
      3. +7
        14 October 2015 12: 27
        In any case, the refusal of gas supplies from the Russian Federation in favor of, for example, reverse German will actually become the purchase of Gazprom’s fuel only from intermediaries, which Ukraine has already been doing since the summer, buying reverse European gas at an overestimated cost.

        Brilliant geopolitical move of Poland! Just like in a joke:

        -And I'm a taxi driver ... nah!
        -How?
        -Money paid but he didn’t go ...

        P.S. It is much more profitable and calmer to trade gas with Germany than with a sickly Russophobic Poland. Let "old woman Me" now decide to give the Poles a "Gas Boob" or not ...
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      5. +8
        14 October 2015 12: 35
        HA HA HA !!!!!!!
        Lithuania also won the LPG tanker from the Nords .... for expensive !!!
        now does not know what to do with it! they are obliged to buy liquefied gas under the contract, and it comes out at a cost with delivery almost 2 times more expensive. they have too much of this gas; Belarus and Estonia do not need it for nothing. Maybe Russia should offer ??? lol lol lol
        I understand this - a rake dance !!!! khe-khe))))
      6. +2
        14 October 2015 13: 24
        Insanity or lack of professionalism?


        Well, what if on the other hand? There is a likely adversary, the only supplier of cheap gas. And so, just in case, both the supply and the opportunity, albeit at an exorbitant price, but bring from other countries. Well, they did not give up Millerovsky gas ... And let there be furnace heating. We fell under NATO, so they are trying. After all, we certainly have not profitable (easier to bring from China), but necessary for the independence of the country of production
      7. +1
        14 October 2015 15: 27
        let them calculate how much they could buy gas from Russia for the money spent on the construction of this terminal fellow
    2. +18
      14 October 2015 11: 56
      will arrive in иноwinoujцеcie ... from Qatar
      - cool name! (Pork mouth (crotch)) laughing

      And so, now they want Qatar (USA) to take them stronger for that very place! Przemazohisty!
    3. +5
      14 October 2015 11: 57
      All this is called one short word - bluff!
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    4. +12
      14 October 2015 11: 58
      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      no matter what they think of themselves there, Russian gas still burns in their columns and stoves ...

      But where did the gas come from to other places, didn’t you think about this pretzel? Well, the Poles will depend on 100% of Germany for gas. The same eggs, only in profile laughing
      1. +3
        14 October 2015 12: 15
        Quote: Wend
        But where did the gas come from to other places, didn’t you think about this pretzel? Well, the Poles will depend on 100% of Germany for gas. The same eggs, only in profile


        in-in. and when in 50 years Germany decides to squeeze back its historical lands, you won’t rewind the film
        1. +2
          14 October 2015 14: 10
          Quote: maximNNX
          in-in. and when in 50 years Germany decides to squeeze back its historical lands, do not rewind the film



          Hmm ... Germany is already gasifying its future land-territories ... with the help of the Poles themselves and for their money ...

          Poles, you are suckers !!!
        2. +1
          14 October 2015 14: 13
          Yes, everything will be faster.
          After 5 years, all unnecessary migrants will be sent there, as if the psheks did not kick back!
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      3. +2
        14 October 2015 14: 09
        Quote: Wend
        Well, the Poles will depend 100% on Germany for gas. The same eggs, only in profile



        The most interesting and piquant thing ... Historically, the Poles have unhealthy relations not only with Russia, but also with Germany ... They scream about their sovereignty, etc. and so on, however, depending on one enemy, they fall under the dependence on another enemy ... Moreover, at the same time, the most "main, generous and reliable" friend - the United States - falls on top (on Poland and Germany), and pulls them both slowly ...

        Masochists ... or, as Baikonur said up there, "Pshemakhists" ...
    5. +23
      14 October 2015 12: 00
      Russophobia is an expensive pleasure
      1. +13
        14 October 2015 12: 07
        Do you read the statements of foreign politicians and are you fucking crazy - am I myself in my right mind?
        They exchanged one drug dealer for another and rejoice. Where is the gain, if if the other dope is much more expensive?
        1. +3
          14 October 2015 12: 50
          apparently the new dealer is prettier .......... tse evropa however laughing wassat
        2. +1
          14 October 2015 23: 46
          maybe they sniff it / inhale ..... ??? and they think that it comes stronger from nemchury.
      2. +9
        14 October 2015 12: 10
        and lack of brains is even more expensive
    6. +8
      14 October 2015 12: 03
      “This independence will provide an opportunity to negotiate a gas price,” the politician emphasized.
      Along the way, "Ukrainianism" is contagious. Agree, do not agree - liquefied gas has always been more expensive than borehole gas until now. Do they have ministers that they don't study at school?
    7. +6
      14 October 2015 12: 04
      As I understand it, we are talking about liquefied gas, which will be brought on tankers. Another thing is whether liquefied gas will be cheaper?
      In any case, one third of the annual consumption rate is far from one hundred percent.
    8. +16
      14 October 2015 12: 10
      Poland is independent in the gas issue, the minister said after leaving the toilet.
    9. +4
      14 October 2015 12: 31
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      if money has nowhere to go

      O. Bender advised loading oranges in barrels.
    10. +6
      14 October 2015 12: 32
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      if there’s nowhere to put money, let them drown it ..

      But this is their principled position, albeit more expensive, but not with Russia. The law is not written for duriks, isn’t it?
    11. +3
      14 October 2015 12: 37
      This is from the topic - I will buy a ticket and, to the evil conductor, I’ll run off next to the tram, that the Poles are Svidomo, but one thought is worse than Russia, well, this is their thing, gas is a product that does not deteriorate and does not stale ....
    12. +1
      14 October 2015 12: 38
      Let her consult with Dalia, she is a specialist in this matter. And how much is LNG gas compared to pipe ????
    13. 0
      14 October 2015 12: 41
      Even Poland has not disappeared ..., Pan Pilsudski is still alive ...)))
    14. +2
      14 October 2015 12: 54
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      no matter what they think of themselves there, Russian gas still burns in their columns and stoves ... and buy the same gas through TUPO intermediaries, if there is nowhere to put the money, let them drown.



      You do not even need to be economists to calculate the losses incurred by Poland through their own fault, making Russia an enemy ...

      The first losses are unreasonably high defense spending ...

      The second, also affecting the social sphere, is the purchase of liquefied natural gas from Qatar ... I do not know the prices, however, they will probably be higher than even the purchase of the German reverse ...

      And even when purchasing a supposedly "German reverse" profit is still received by the Russian Gazprom and deducts taxes from it to the Russian budget ...
    15. -2
      14 October 2015 14: 16
      No one will buy more. It will be the same as with oil. The main supplier is Russia. But when the opportunity arose to buy cheaper than from Russia, Poland bought from Saudi Arabia, thanks to the Oil Port in Gdansk. The LNG terminal in иноwinoujцеcie is an interesting thing. As a result, Polish companies can buy gas fields abroad and seaports to trade gas in Europe.

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kicking-horse-energy-pkn-orlen-1.3268463
    16. 0
      14 October 2015 14: 59
      P shk and outwitted themselves. This is when this liquefied gas was cheaper and more profitable? Show me such places. Or the Poles have found a way to make a liquid, cheaper than a seed, this is the Nobel, definitely.
    17. 0
      14 October 2015 15: 07
      Liquefied gas will be more expensive, well, let them want to buy. That's just drag it across the ocean or from the Persian Gulf will be more expensive.
  2. +9
    14 October 2015 11: 55
    Has a gas pipe been connected to each toilet?
  3. +6
    14 October 2015 11: 55
    Good peas grown or what?
  4. +5
    14 October 2015 11: 56
    Paramoga.

    in иноwinoujцеcie (one name is worth it!)
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  6. +10
    14 October 2015 11: 57
    Yes, independence is a great thing ... and the cost? To spite grandmother's ears frostbite ....
    1. +8
      14 October 2015 12: 01
      And shoot my leg. Let the mother-in-law have a disabled son smile
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 14: 14
        Quote: Barracuda
        And shoot my leg. Let the mother-in-law have a disabled son



        Yeah ... also add: let the wife have a castrate husband ...

        But the husband of this lady prime minister has a wife - just headless ...
  7. +8
    14 October 2015 11: 57
    Say the first tanker from Qatar ...?! Well, Ukrainians, they also dragged coal from South Africa. It's all over ... Then just don’t get hysterical when the ass starts to freeze to the stool!
  8. +5
    14 October 2015 11: 57
    Now we can get 90% of gas from other directions, not only from the east. Next year, if we work well, we will be 100% independent of gas supplies from the east. ” Why don't you let Ukraine become independent? Why are you sabotaging the construction of the second branch of Nord Stream?
  9. +9
    14 October 2015 11: 58
    Cheers cheers. We bought the most expensive tie of all offered.
  10. +4
    14 October 2015 11: 59
    Rushed, but no matter how they stumble and nose does not hurt. fellow
  11. +5
    14 October 2015 11: 59
    They would know how we can fuck us. Something is being built there, something is bursting. The ants in the anthill are more interesting.
  12. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 00
    What a wise decision. Better yet, cut the trees with a jigsaw and heat the stoves.
  13. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 00
    "The first LNG tanker will arrive in Swinoujscie in mid-December from Qatar, the second - in February-March" the faithful will not arrive at the port with that name. Pork (.) Uy (?) Stse.
  14. +5
    14 October 2015 12: 00
    “We are independent in the gas issue,” rejoices Poland, which has finally built a terminal for receiving liquefied natural gas (LNG). Now Warsaw really has a new way of delivering gas - the sea. The problem is that in the end, Poland not only does not save, but also pays much more for liquefied gas from Qatar, and even now, without even receiving a cubic meter from there.
    ("Look") today
    Here she is such a Polish joy.
  15. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 00
    There was one high-ranking Pole, he, too, from the principle did not want to do what he was advised, he buried himself and killed others in 2010 in Smolensk. I am amazed at the stubborn stupidity of these psheks ...
  16. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 00
    Will Qatar have enough gas for everyone? what That is the question. There is not much free gas on the market. Their business, of course. The rich wassat their quirks, as they say ...
    1. +5
      14 October 2015 12: 13
      Qatar has enough gas at the moment, but will Poland have enough money to pay for it? The question is interesting ...
      1. +2
        14 October 2015 12: 26
        Quote: Private27
        Qatar has enough gas at the moment

        Yes, but gas consumption should grow significantly in the coming years Yes . And then ... winked
  17. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 01
    Liquefied gas is more expensive. I do not understand the joy.
    1. +3
      14 October 2015 12: 36
      The Germans are probably already planning the construction of an LNG plant - it seems like a normal business: you liquefy Russian gas and sell it to Poland under the guise of a Qatari one) or you can also join the sale under the guise of American shale and we)) that’s everyone’s joy: some are independent, others are profits count
  18. +5
    14 October 2015 12: 01
    this revolution in the economy is in Polish, now it’s getting natural gas by reverse from somewhere it’s cheaper than directly getting it from the supplier, it’s brilliant, it’s the Nobel Prize in economics that relies directly ...
  19. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 01
    "Independence" will be too expensive for them
  20. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 01
    Key in his words, quote: "technical or buffer gas must be injected first". This is where the comment comes in handy.
    Did you connect a pipe to each toilet?
  21. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 01
    The Polish Prime Minister noted that thanks to the terminal, Poland would be able to purchase liquefied gas anywhere in the world, receiving it by sea.



    Of course he can, the question is how much will it cost ???? It is much more expensive than piped gas.
  22. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 02
    It's just some kind of holiday: another country "shoots itself in the foot." They should have looked at the Lithuanians for a start, or something.

    Well, okay, if Th, then instead of "Gazprom's gas from the east" will buy "Gazprom's gas from the west." The Germans will be happy, because they too will get the gesheft. ;-)
  23. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 02
    It would not have happened as with greedy Latvians.
    Will the LNG terminal be idle, since the price of LNG is different from the "totalitarian" one)))
  24. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 02
    They want to pay more - let them pay, it is their personal business.
    And in general, what do they all have in their heads?
    The French president today made my day:
    French President Francois Hollande said that Paris expects to sell new ships to Russia in the future, despite a previously terminated contract for the supply of two Mistral-type helicopter carriers, the Associated Press reports.
    “Relations with Russia have improved. I even think that we will have agreements on new ships, ”Hollande said during a visit to the shipyard in Saint-Nazaire, on which the helicopter carriers were built,

  25. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 03
    flag to them .....
  26. +5
    14 October 2015 12: 03
    They will understand in a year who is free from whom lol
  27. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 05
    In my opinion, the first thing that Yusovtsy do when they come to power in a new country is to turn off the brain to representatives of the authorities and most of the population. And then download the loot as you want!
    1. 0
      14 October 2015 16: 33
      Most likely zombies. Remember how ours, leaving the US Embassy, ​​they were babbling about someone’s propaganda.
  28. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 05
    Liquefied tanker always cost more than the pipeline, it is known! This one has no alternative, understandably ... Are you really ready to overpay because of your Russophobia?
  29. +5
    14 October 2015 12: 07
    I want to be great, but my mind is not enough.
  30. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 07
    The rich have their own quirks.
  31. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 07
    They do another nonsense, they need to put their brains on the shelf in order to enter the EU ... Let the Germans outbid our gas)
  32. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 08
    As I understand it, independence is when you have everything of your own. And to buy gas from someone else for much more money than from Russia, this is called a completely different word.
    It is necessary to help Poland and others like it, to quickly build a second pipe to Germany and cut off the one that goes to Ukraine. The money is the same, the headache is significantly less and complete independence for all.
  33. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 09
    The new terminal will allow 5 to store billions of cubic meters of gas - a third of Poland’s annual demand. In the future we plan to expand capacity to 7.5 billion cubic meters.
    That is, they are ready to buy somewhere expensive liquefied gas and refuse cheaper natural gas? Oh well. I'll see when they start "debits" with "credits" to reduce and calculate the "profitability"
  34. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 09
    And if the Poles, if I’m not mistaken, have paid Qatar for gas in this terminal since the age of 13. And they buy this gas from him for 700 not always eternally green (Gazprom sells gas of about 240 with logs) for 1000 cubic meters. Peremoga so to speak laughing
  35. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 14
    we ARE UNABLE to use our gas situation !!!!!!
    here we need to learn from YUSOVTSEV. The whole world has been planted on the dollar and they are doing what they want, although everyone has their own currency.
    And we cheated with everyone, we are negotiating, partners, friends, all that. Americans directly called us ENEMIES. that we are a threat. What is there to channel, what kind of face do we keep, politeness? EYE FOR EYE, TOOTH FOR TOOTH!

    play too soft, it’s already possible to clamp it harder
  36. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 15
    Perfectly! Now Poland can be disconnected from the pipe and use gas in Russia.
    Ah really, how to do it? It’s easier to drive everything to friends or enemies. Convincing and convincing himself in the supremacy of universal values. Periodically, however, wiping the der ... o, poured on his head. Well, that doesn’t happen ...
    Well, I don’t believe in any values ​​other than personal gain! Though write. Cases and only affairs (and, most importantly, for the good of Russia), and not bargaining ..., with an eye on your pocket.
  37. +8
    14 October 2015 12: 16
    The fall in production in Poland reached such proportions that the country simply began to engage in simple reproduction. Hence the "complete independence", since gas is simply not needed in the quantities that the Poles bought earlier. And who needs such independence? You can also talk about independence from the production of cement, rolled metal, etc., if you do not build houses, but transfer the Poles to life in dugouts or, in the best cases, log cabins.
  38. HAM
    +4
    14 October 2015 12: 16
    Well, well, we have built a terminal, are independent in gas supplies - but why are the screams about Nord Stream 2 continuing !? Something doesn’t fit in the Polish kingdom. And it’s not a mess, and I won’t let others!
  39. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 17
    A flag in your hands and a belt for tightening gentlemen's pants.
  40. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 17
    That's when the plug is stuck in the pipe, then these applications will look more or less true.
  41. 0
    14 October 2015 12: 18
    moreover, he forgot to add that liquefied gas in a tanker is always more expensive than gas coming directly from fields
  42. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 19
    ... Lord Pshek! Independent is when you have a mine. Now you can only suck at LNG suppliers with a sense of accomplishment. No more...
  43. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 19
    A clear example of the fact that politics is higher than the economy. And this is only among the politicians themselves. The people of Poland will not live better from this. Drive, drive yourself into such independence from Russia further and faster.
  44. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 22
    Everything is done to the detriment of us. Prompter lit up, such rubbish.
    1. +5
      14 October 2015 12: 25
      Just licked the owner.
  45. +6
    14 October 2015 12: 24
    Personally, I am happy for Poland, now you can safely raise our gas price, they are buying the Qatari road, why ours is cheaper? not market somehow it turns out.
  46. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 26
    Your independence costs you more and more. The gentlemen go to the right path.
  47. +7
    14 October 2015 12: 27
    Well, g .. but in flight is also completely independent. In general, Polish politicians seem to have become infected with the "maidan of the brain" from their neighbors - "we do not want to buy gas for 240 from the damned Gazprom, we'd better buy it for 300 from the Germans, and even better for 700 from Qatar." wassat request fool One would like to propose an unforgettable phrase by Sergey Lavrov:
  48. +4
    14 October 2015 12: 28
    type to spite mom’s frostbitten ears .. these thugs are ready to pay three times the price if only to spite Russia .. clowns wink
  49. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 29
    we are independent in the gas issue

    gaining independence on the gas issue means starting to produce gas domestically.
  50. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 30
    Quote: Baikonur
    will arrive in иноwinoujцеcie ... from Qatar
    - cool name! (Pork mouth (crotch)) laughing

    And so, now they want Qatar (USA) to take them stronger for that very place! Przemazohisty!

    That's what it means - educated person! Thank you. I thought just "x" after "o" missed. Symbolic name --- everything will be so!
  51. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 30
    The present:
    - all opponents of Russia are rapidly building LNG storage facilities, despite the exorbitant cost of both the projects and the gas itself
    - Russia is rapidly building plants and terminals for the production and shipment of LNG to the world
    - pipeline gas has not disappeared anywhere and is produced in the same or even increased volumes
    Let's look into the future:
    - Russia turns off pipeline gas to Europe (to everyone except Germany)
    - Only China and Germany receive pipeline (cheap) gas (energy sponsorship of the Silk Road)
    - Trouble off the coast of Qatar (everything is leading up to this)
    - The entire “civilized” world buys expensive LNG from Russia
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  53. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 30
    Lithuania is already dancing the Harlemshake at its LNG terminal. The gas was 70-80% more expensive than Gazprom's. A real win - 700 bucks per 1000 cubic meters. It's the Poles' turn to cry with joy...
  54. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 33
    That’s great, buy this is your right, and it’s a good lesson for Gazprom in terms of price and politics, maybe it’s time to think about Russia, there’s a lot to do at home in this regard
  55. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 35
    LNG dreamers, where is the price of Qatari gas? Why hasn't it been announced? am

    Poland will be able to purchase liquefied gas anywhere in the world


    Saturn's moon Titan is full of methane and ethane; why not carry from there; There gas is free - it splashes in liquid form in lakes and seas. am
  56. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 36
    Yes, we have nothing to worry about here))) let the Poles pay for everything. They will soon build a gas liquefaction station in Ust Luga (if I’m not mistaken) and the costs from there will be exorbitant. the Baltic terminal is unlikely to withstand competition for long.
  57. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 36
    Poland and independent are antonymous words. Poland cannot be independent by definition. She immediately begins to feel sick and crippled from a feeling of insecurity and loneliness, and she is urgently looking for who will give herself more dearly - to the Germans, Russians, Americans... A woman’s destiny...
  58. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 38
    Let go.... extra money - hi I use LPG....
    Let them at least feel proud of their own stupidity!!!
  59. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 41
    P.S. Trading gas with Germany is much more profitable and calmer than with the mentally ill Russophobic Poland. Let “old lady Me” now decide whether to give the Poles “Gas Tits” or not...[/quote] and there’s nothing to add here...
  60. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 41
    The Poles have a contract with Qatar for 1,5 billion cubic meters per year since 2013. The price is about 700 dollars per 1000 cubic meters, with our gas costing 270, this is 2,6 times more expensive. Since the construction of the terminal was delayed until 2015, Qatar sells the contracted gas to anyone, and Poland pays extra if the price of this sale is less than the Polish contract price, i.e. There is no gas yet, but they have been paying for it for 2 years. And these economists teach us how to boost the economy????? Poles in their repertoire. Since 2011, the volume of LNG sold on the market has halved and the trend continues. At the same time, the Baltic states are also launching their own terminal. Well, that means there will still be poverty. If they are not smart, why feel sorry for them?
  61. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 45
    Quote: Sasha 19871987
    no matter what they think of themselves, Russian gas still burns in their columns and stoves ... and buy the same gas through TUPO intermediaries, if there is nowhere to put the money, let them drown ...

    No, now they can really buy liquefied gas from anyone and receive it by sea (there is an agreement with Qatar). True, the price of this gas is more than 2 times more than Russian gas, but there is “freedom” and “independence” (of money, I suppose). The ruin stomps along the same path.
  62. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 46
    There in Poland they were infected with Russophobia for a long time. And those around them are also “bitten” or poisoned with poisonous saliva. So on Google maps I figured out where Qatar is and where Russia is. From Qatar they will have to drive LNG across half the planet for about 16 thousand km, while from Russia (from Yamal) they receive it “through a pipe” for 5 thousand km. Plus, gas from Qatar must first be liquefied, and in Poland back into gas.
    And the Russians are also accused of not knowing how to run a business. This is where the great cut is!!!
  63. BNM
    +1
    14 October 2015 12: 46
    Quote: cniza
    Just licked the owner.

    but how long does the owner have left...? and then what...? winked
  64. +3
    14 October 2015 12: 47
    YES please - there will be more left for our children!
    In general, it’s time to develop your market at prices below world prices, but dill pays an increase of 3,60 and theirs 5,50, where is Miller’s logic?
  65. 0
    14 October 2015 12: 48
    Are the Psheks weak to NOT BREATHE?
  66. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 49
    In any case, the refusal of gas supplies from the Russian Federation in favor of, for example, reverse German will actually become the purchase of Gazprom’s fuel only from intermediaries, which Ukraine has already been doing since the summer, buying reverse European gas at an overestimated cost.


    And it is right. The gas, having passed through German stations, was cleared of Gazprom’s provocative spirit and was guaranteed to become real German gas, ideologically correct and European pure. The markup does not matter - European purity is higher than all material costs. Warm up and eat Pole for your health.
  67. +2
    14 October 2015 12: 52
    I think that Poland behaves this way because the United States and it are somehow holding it to Faberge. The US holds Germany in gold reserves. But what about Poland?
  68. +1
    14 October 2015 12: 53
    “This independence will make it possible to negotiate the price of gas”

    The apples have clearly fermented...!
  69. 0
    14 October 2015 12: 53
    FIVE million cubic meters of gas...the population density in Poland is significant. In the event of an emergency or natural disaster, what will be left of the Poles?!
  70. +2
    14 October 2015 13: 10
    Well, if it’s more profitable for them to buy gas at a higher price, that’s their business. One would think that this would make them truly independent. Nonsense, and that's all. Everyone understands everything perfectly well, but we need to listen to the United States. fool
  71. +2
    14 October 2015 13: 15
    Poles are Poles! As we say: If you have no intelligence, consider yourself crippled!!!
  72. +1
    14 October 2015 13: 18
    For those counting money in other people's pockets, please pay attention to the title of the article. There are no words there - “how can we buy gas cheaper”, but there are words about the strategic goals of the state and independence. Independence costs money. If you don’t want to have your arms twisted by shady citizens from other countries, in their own interests, think about import substitution, which is what the Poles did. If only ours, you know who, had listened less to the liberals, with their “the hand of the free market, which will do everything itself, and we’ll buy the rest from our partners,” and started working closely on import substitution and independence from the will of foreign “uncles” ten years ago, outside our window, everything would be completely different.
  73. 0
    14 October 2015 13: 53
    5 lards of gas in storage you say? Is that what it sounds like? It will probably reach Warsaw.
  74. 0
    14 October 2015 13: 56
    Such terminals for receiving and storing liquefied gas
    Now they are building rapidly all over Europe. Not only Poles.
    The transition to liquefied gas is a global trend.
    1. +1
      14 October 2015 14: 17
      It’s a good trend that fully meets Russia’s interests; by increasing the price of LNG, the price of natural gas will rise, or production costs will rise, which will hit Europe’s export capabilities and that’s all.
  75. +1
    14 October 2015 14: 07
    The Polish Prime Minister noted that thanks to the terminal, Poland would be able to purchase liquefied gas anywhere in the world, receiving it by sea.

    P..se.ts, they've arrived...
  76. 0
    14 October 2015 14: 15
    Today, most homes have gas stoves set to regular gas. If you do not carry out special work to replace the nozzles on the stove, the liquefied gas will damage it. If you want, try connecting your country gas stoves powered by bottled gas to regular gas. It will be interesting. And this is only in ordinary residential buildings. Now imagine boiler houses, enterprises, etc., that run on natural gas. After all, everything needs to be redone... I’m not even talking about the price... For Moscow, 1 cubic meter. natural gas = 6,04 rub. - 1l. liquefied (butane, propane) = 17 rub.
    Let's calculate the expenses???
  77. +1
    14 October 2015 14: 25
    That's Polish, well done! To spite the conductor, I’ll take the ticket and get out. Let it be reverse, let it be more expensive, but in Germany. But this gas still smells like Russia...
  78. 0
    14 October 2015 14: 48
    Where is the asking price?
  79. +1
    14 October 2015 14: 53
    Ha ha! Without pants - but SHLYAKHTICH! Psya krev!
  80. 0
    14 October 2015 15: 31
    Hurray, hurray, they finally found the most expensive gas, finally they will be able to pay off their older brother, buying at double the price and get second-hand weapons for this at the price of new ones, increase energy tariffs within the country by three times, tear off their crazy citizens, well finally they will show the whole of Europe how quickly a country can be bankrupt and the bulk of its citizens reduced to the level of impoverishment, and this should be noted without a war like the “dill”. Good luck in their difficult bending before the guards (brothers).
  81. 0
    14 October 2015 15: 45
    Well, of course, Pshek consumers will cover all expenses, especially in the cities. There are no cattle there, from whose feces their farmers produce gas for personal consumption. Good luck in your endeavors. No one has canceled kickbacks in “free” countries.
  82. 0
    14 October 2015 16: 10
    I’ll comment on this in the words of my other half, “Parkinsons.” I understand that there should be a backup option, but you don’t have to be idiots in both eyes. Pipeline gas is cheaper in every sense. wassat
  83. 0
    14 October 2015 16: 22
    Independence in the gas issue is when a country produces gas and fully supplies it to its country. Otherwise, they will be independent from the Russian Federation, but dependent on Qatar and Germany.
  84. 0
    14 October 2015 16: 25
    I wonder how many fools there are among prime ministers?
  85. 0
    14 October 2015 19: 28
    Poland will be able to purchase liquefied gas anywhere in the world, receiving it by sea.

    Congratulations to the Psheks on another victory! Having gained independence from cheap Russian gas, they can now buy expensive gas anywhere, and not only on the planet, but throughout the solar system
  86. 0
    14 October 2015 20: 36
    A woman with a cart makes it easier for a mare. Russian proverb .

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