Strengthening security measures in Israel in connection with a series of terrorist attacks

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In connection with the series of terrorist acts that swept over Israel, the authorities decided to force the blocking of Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem, believing that the main terrorist threat comes from those who live in these neighborhoods. Information Agency Reuters cites a statement from the Israeli Cabinet Office:

The Security Cabinet is introducing measures to combat terrorism, in particular, ordered to encircle or impose a curfew in some parts of Jerusalem in case of conflicts or violence.


Strengthening security measures in Israel in connection with a series of terrorist attacks


Recall that on the eve of several terrorist attacks were carried out in Jerusalem. As a result of the actions of extremists, three Israeli citizens were killed, and 17 were injured of varying degrees of severity. The first terrorist attack is shooting inside the bus, the second is an attack with a knife on pedestrians after a public transport stop was rammed.

Two more attacks occurred near Tel Aviv (the city of Raanana). There, unidentified persons also wounded Israelis by attacking them with cold weapons.

Information Agency Mako reports that the streets of Israeli cities (not only Jerusalem) will be patrolled by soldiers with weapons. The report said that the permanent posts of the military will operate in crowded places, as well as in the areas of construction work.
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  1. +5
    14 October 2015 06: 59
    There is nothing to blame on the mirror ....
    If Israel had not organized a provocation in the Al-Aqsa mosque, and had not blocked the Palestinians' access to the old part of Jerusalem, none of this would have happened.
    Palestinians will not put up with lawlessness. Terror breeds terror.
    1. +16
      14 October 2015 07: 04
      From yesterday's news about Israeli shelling of Syria
      Israel’s official position is as follows: Bashar al-Assad is responsible for any provocations from Syrian territory against Israel (even if firing by ISIS or Front al-Nusra militants), as he "calls himself the president of Syria." Frankly, the logic is very strange, because if you follow it, it turns out that for any act of terrorism committed by the Palestinians in Israeli cities, Benjamin Netanyahu should be held responsible, because "he calls himself the Prime Minister of Israel" ...

      What will you do, fellow Jews? Netanyahu on gilyaka?
      1. -3
        14 October 2015 11: 40
        What will you do, fellow Jews? Netanyahu for gilyaka? Looks like Erdogan, sworn friend in a hurry. wassat
    2. +3
      14 October 2015 07: 31
      Quote: Bison
      If Israel hadn’t organized a provocation in Al-Aqsa Mosque

      And what was the provocation?
      1. -4
        14 October 2015 07: 54
        Armed, on Jewish New Year's Day.
        Do not pretend that you did not know about it!
        -This is not the first publication on the topic.
        1. +5
          14 October 2015 08: 43
          Quote: Bison
          Do not pretend that you did not know about it!

          Why should I know everything? Or answer the tongue dries out
    3. +2
      14 October 2015 07: 46
      Have you even been there? I personally would not indiscriminately blame either the Jews or the Arabs.
      Let them figure it out for themselves. And as regards their relationship, it would be worthwhile to carefully study the history of these peoples, who they are and what their relationships represent.
      From the history:
      On November 29, 1947, the UN adopted a partition plan for Palestine (UNGA Resolution No. 181). This plan provided for the termination of the British mandate in Palestine by August 1, 1948, and recommended the creation of two states on its territory: Jewish and Arab. Jerusalem and Bethlehem, according to a UN decision, were to become a territory under international control in order to prevent conflict over the status of these cities [37]. The adoption of this plan was made possible thanks to its support from the largest powers - the USSR and the USA.
      ------------------------------------------------
      Read above and below the history of Israel.
      So maybe you will understand what is the cause of conflicts between them.
      So, at the dawn of the reign of Comrade Khrushchev N.S. - this sage has done such miracles ... in this direction, you are amazed
      ------------------------------------------------
      So how long has it been and is now there.
      EAST IS A BUSINESS THIN ...
      ------------------------------------------------
      And do not blame either one or the other.
      And if a Jew (name, patronymic) personally annoyed you with something, then give him a personal name (name, patronymic) - that’s the end of the matter ... let him know.
      And sit and drink with another Jew ... so he will once again ask you to give your offender in the face so that he does not disgrace the Jews ... these are the Jews.
      1. 0
        14 October 2015 08: 06
        Quote: UralChel
        Your offender, so that he does not dishonor the Jews ... these are they Jews.

        Oh!!! laughing
        Luxuriously lying, dear! How Jewish!
    4. -4
      14 October 2015 08: 08
      Quote: Bison
      If Israel had not organized a provocation in the Al-Aqsa mosque, and had not blocked the Palestinians' access to the old part of Jerusalem, none of this would have happened.

      Sometimes chewing is better than talking. Arabs live in the old city and no one can "close access to the Palestinians in the old part of Jerusalem." About the Temple Mount is generally nonsense.

      Quote: Bison
      Armed, on Jewish New Year's Day.

      Did they drink the blood of Muslim babies again?


      Quote: inkass_98
      After all, Jordan (like Egypt) is for some reason not hostile to Israel, why not try to make Syria a friendly neighbor and crush terrorism together?

      Really. Why? Why is Assad not ready for peace talks with Israel? He was repeatedly offered.

      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Something the Arabs in Israel are completely brutalized .. (they already rush with clerics) Those killed are a pity of course .. My condolences.

      They are not overgrown, we dismissed them. Played a democracy.
      1. +5
        14 October 2015 08: 26
        Sometimes chewing is better than talking. Arabs live in the old city and no one can "close access to the Palestinians in the old part of Jerusalem." About the Temple Mount is generally nonsense.

        WELL SAID good
      2. avt
        +6
        14 October 2015 08: 54
        Quote: professor
        Why is Assad not ready for peace talks with Israel? He was repeatedly offered.

        And here the professor go to the market, buy a rooster and twist his head. The last offer before the civil war from Assad to Israel was about peace WITHOUT PRELIMINARY CONDITIONS, that is, Assad was ready to sign like Egypt with no reference to the status of the Golan Heights. You could not know this.
        1. -7
          14 October 2015 09: 04
          Quote: avt
          And here the professor go to the market, buy a rooster and twist his head.

          How witty. Glad for yourself? fool


          Quote: avt
          The last offer before the civil war from Assad to Israel was about peace WITHOUT PRELIMINARY CONDITIONS, that is, Assad was ready to sign like Egypt with no reference to the status of the Golan Heights.

          Quite the opposite. Assad made a precondition to return to him all the Golan Heights with access to Kineret, and only then he was ready to sit at the negotiating table. Negotiations about what if everyone would have returned to him?

          Quote: born_in_cssr
          Professor, and often you have people running with axes like this from an excess of democracy?

          More often than necessary. When there was martial law in Israel, they didn’t run with axes, but breathed evenly.
          1. +6
            14 October 2015 09: 09
            Quote: professor
            More often than necessary. When there was martial law in Israel, they didn’t run with axes, but breathed evenly.

            And who else is the "GULAG Archipelago" after that? You yourself are ready to put yourself on martial law forever and even yearn for this martial law, if only you do not come to an agreement with the Arabs ...
            In general, of course, it is very strange when a person yearns for martial law.
            Or do you think the Arabs are so wild that they only need to be with animals?
            I will not understand you in any way, with these "democracies" and "martial law".
          2. +2
            14 October 2015 20: 43
            Quote: professor
            Assad made a precondition to return to him all the Golan Heights with access to Kineret, and only then he was ready to sit at the negotiating table. Negotiations about what if everyone would have returned to him?

            But what about Security Council resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981?
            Resolution No. 497 of December 17 1981 of the year

            Security Council
            Having considered the letter from the Permanent Representative of the Syrian Arab Republic of 14 of December 1981 of the year contained in document S / 14791,
            Reaffirming that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, the principles of international law and the relevant resolutions of the Security Council,
            Decides that the decision of Israel to establish its laws, jurisdiction and administration in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights is invalid and has no international legal force;
            Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, annul its decision immediately;
            Declares that all the provisions of the Geneva Convention for the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of August 12, 1949 continue to apply to Syrian territory occupied by Israel since June 1967;
            requests the Secretary-General to submit to the Security Council a report on the implementation of this resolution within two weeks and decides that if Israel does not comply with it, the Council will convene urgently, and no later than January 5, 1982, in order to consider the adoption of appropriate measures in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations .
            Adopted unanimously at the 2319 meeting.
            - UN official website [
            1. 0
              14 October 2015 21: 17
              Quote: APASUS
              But what about Security Council resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981?

              Go to the toilet with her and use as intended.
              1. +1
                15 October 2015 18: 36
                Quote: professor
                Quote: APASUS
                But what about Security Council resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981?

                Go to the toilet with her and use as intended.

                The answer is more than comprehensive !!
                1. 0
                  15 October 2015 19: 14
                  Quote: APASUS
                  The answer is more than comprehensive !!

                  Glad we understood each other.
        2. +1
          14 October 2015 11: 32
          Quote: avt
          The last offer before the civil war from Assad to Israel was for peace WITHOUT PRELIMINARY CONDITIONS

          Are you sure ? Papa Assad, in response to the offer, said - I swam in Kineret as a child, first return the Golan, and then we will
          Vilimo wanted so.
          Israel offered a complete peace, taking into account that the Golan Heights are declared a demilitarized zone with a phased return of Syria within 20 years.
          Given the history of past wars - more than a generous offer.
          I didn’t want to - do not.
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          1. avt
            0
            14 October 2015 12: 42
            Quote: atalef
            Are you sure ?

            Yes. And the professor, by the way, too, but he never admits laughing
            Quote: atalef
            Papa Assad, in response to the offer said

            wassat Did I speak for dad? There is no such thing - for his son, and this was broadcast several times in the Russian media with the emphasis on the fact that Assad changed his attitude to the settlement of bilateral relations with Israel during that time - they themselves made a public run of the guarantees of negotiations from Russia before the muddy in Suria.
            1. -1
              14 October 2015 12: 47
              Quote: avt
              We rumored that this was broadcast several times in the Russian media with the emphasis on the fact that Assad changed his attitude towards the settlement of bilateral relations with Israel

              Well, once in the Russian media they said, then this is 146% true. Where and when did Assad say this, or is the official Russian media the only source of information for you?
              1. avt
                +1
                14 October 2015 12: 56
                Quote: Rumata
                Is Russian media the only source of information for you?

                For us, no. We personally do not even have a professor decree. Personally, we somehow check from different sources. I can only wish you to read and comprehend my commentary whole, to the end - there is not a word that the media is a source of information.
                1. -3
                  14 October 2015 13: 45
                  Quote: avt
                  We somehow recheck from different sources.

                  You’re checking out badly because Assad didn’t say anything like that. Proof of the opposite will or not wait?
            2. +2
              14 October 2015 12: 52
              Quote: avt
              Yes. And the professor, by the way, too, but he never admits

              Carefully read:
              BILATERAL TALKS Israel - Syria
              On May 21, 2008, Israel, Syria and Turkey announced the start of indirect negotiations under the auspices of the Turkish government in Istanbul. Four rounds of negotiations did not lead to the resumption of direct dialogue between the parties, since Syria insisted on obtaining an Israeli commitment to completely withdraw from the Golan Heights, and Israel on resuming negotiations without preconditions... Indirect negotiations in Turkey were frozen after the resignation of Prime Minister Olmert in September 2008, and with the start of the anti-terrorist operation "Cast Lead" in the Gaza Strip in December of that year, the Syrian side announced its refusal to continue the dialogue.
      3. +3
        14 October 2015 08: 54
        Quote: professor
        They are not overgrown, we dismissed them. Played a democracy.

        wassat Who are you kidding now? Are you reassuring yourself or, by inertia, are we lying an old song about you, white and shiny?

        Professor, and often you have people running with axes like this from an excess of democracy? belay
        The right word is a professor, well, not everyone here is mentally incomplete ...
        1. +2
          14 October 2015 13: 44
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          Who are you kidding now? Are you reassuring yourself or, by inertia, are we lying an old song about you, white and shiny?

          Sergei, you needlessly become personal. In this case, the professor is right - the "old guard" of the Alawites set the unconditional return of the Golan as a precondition for negotiations with Israel. And this is not at all about Assad the son. Politics in Syria before the war, and even now in many ways, was determined by the Alawite elite, and Bashar al-Assad practically did not enter this elite until his father's death. He lived in Europe, imbued with Western values, so it turned out to be extremely difficult to transfer these values ​​to BV, and, frankly, impossible. The appropriation of the results of Bashar's reforms by the Alawite elite led to the impoverishment of ordinary Sunni peasants, and their peaceful protests under the influence of Islamists quickly became not at all peaceful. The West - mainly France, as well as the United States, and then the monarchies of the Gulf, took advantage of the situation and began to rock the boat, arming, supplying and supporting the militants with information. But the impetus for the events was the policy of the Alawite elite in Syria. And so she did not even think of making peace with Israel. Under the influence of the Iranian ayatollahs, or for some other reason, but this is a fact - the professor is right.
      4. 0
        14 October 2015 08: 57
        Quote: Bison
        Armed, on Jewish New Year's Day.

        Did they drink the blood of Muslim babies again?

        No, they killed a couple of pregnant Arab women and a couple of dozen Arab children. And the Arabs are worried about this garbage, just think!


        Quote: inkass_98
        After all, Jordan (like Egypt) is for some reason not hostile to Israel, why not try to make Syria a friendly neighbor and crush terrorism together?

        Really. Why? Why is Assad not ready for peace talks with Israel? He was repeatedly offered.

        Maybe because Israel actively helps Ishil and in every way Assad craps? Not? This is not the point, but Assad’s natural harm? Of course you are right, as always!

      5. +3
        14 October 2015 20: 27
        Quote: professor
        They are not overgrown, we dismissed them. Played a democracy.

        About democracy - a cool joke! good Rated +
    5. +7
      14 October 2015 08: 13
      BISON If Israel had not arranged a provocation in the Al-Aqsa mosque, and had not blocked Palestinians' access to the old part of Jerusalem, none of this would have happened.

      I am a Russian nationalist (in the good sense of the word). I strongly disagree with you. Rushing at passersby with knives and axes is a complete slag. After all, the Palestinians did not cut police and officials at the mosque, which blocked access, but in the streets. They cut people who were not involved in closing access. And what would you say if you killed Russian tourists, your relatives, for example? You need to think, dear, what you write. Thinking, not succumbing to feelings. fool
  2. +3
    14 October 2015 07: 00
    What can I say about this? I'm sorry for the people, sorry. But why not turn our eyes not to the shelling of Syrian government forces, but to a more real threat? There is just a chance, together with Assad, to fight the infection, because Jordan (like Egypt) is for some reason not hostile to Israel, why not try to make Syria friendly to its neighbor and crush terrorism together? Blinders have never been beneficial in any case, in the fight against the scruffy of any article - in particular.
    1. +1
      14 October 2015 07: 19
      Quote: inkass_98
      push terrorism together?

      You still offer the United States together with terrorism to fight laughing or Turkey ...
      All this gang, together with the Saudis, those are still fighters, yeah
  3. +2
    14 October 2015 07: 02
    It’s necessary to take Israel as partners in the anti-terrorist coalition. They have long been enemies, Israel can’t lose anything, there are bombings and killings by terrorists. And it’s possible to gain militants from their borders. And you can agree with secular authorities in neighboring countries. Yes hi
    1. +3
      14 October 2015 07: 06
      Is it that Israel that destroyed the Syrian arms warehouse near the border the other day?
      And why is he better than those terrorists?
    2. -6
      14 October 2015 08: 31
      Syria is no less an enemy for Israel than ISIS or Hezbollah. But even assuming that Israel agrees, it will not work. The realities of BV are such that as soon as Assad enters on one side with Israel, all his opponents will begin to use it to the full. It will not be a coalition of Israel and Russia helping Syria, it will be Assad sold to Jews, sworn enemies, a traitor, etc. I think this is the main reason that Israel is not even called to such coalitions. The possibilities of the Russian Federation in Syria are very limited, Israel could speed up the whole process at times. All the same, 35 aircraft, or 335, there is a difference. But this is still fantastic. But Israel helping Egypt, for example, is quite possible. By the way, against the background of such assistance, even if it is not particularly needed, it is possible to improve relations between countries quite well. But not with Assad, he is the personal dog of the Iranian ayatollahs, and they will be the last with whom we can make peace in BV
      1. +3
        14 October 2015 08: 36
        Yes, that's it. But only earlier you had one enemy from whom you know what to expect, and now the same set plus a frostbitten igil.
        Not scary?
        And when ISIS comes to your souls again about the Holocaust start screaming? What you furry for no reason?
        Are you sure you want to meet this enemy?
        You crush the old enemy with your own hands and in return you get an even more savage enemy. Moreover, everyone sees your meanness and literally direct support for these nonhumans, do you think they will forgive you? The same Arabs?

        In human language, your behavior is called Unscrupulousness
        1. -5
          14 October 2015 08: 50
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          Are you sure you want to meet this enemy?

          How do you imagine ISIS war with Israel? It’s like an elephant and a pug, they will have to take over all the countries around, rearm for 5 years and then they can do something. They will strain on the border, nothing more. For Israel, that ISIS, that Hezbollah, that Al-Nusra, the same, different names, the meaning is the same.
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          Moreover, everyone sees your meanness and literally direct support for these nonhumans, do you think they will forgive you?

          Where and when did Israel support ISIS? Where and when did Israel help the enemies of Assad? And it is not necessary only about patients in hospitals, these are international conventions, as well as Ukrainians in Russian hospitals. Before throwing such accusations, the facts are in the studio.
          1. 0
            14 October 2015 08: 59
            Quote: Rumata
            How do you imagine ISIS war with Israel?

            laughing You can't cope with some "unfortunate" Hezbalah, but here ISIS is not your rival
            Or maybe you know something that says that ISIS is not an enemy of Israel? wink laughing Turkey is also not very afraid of ISIS, the Saudis, too ...
            Quote: Rumata
            Where and when did Israel support ISIS? Where and when did Israel help the enemies of Assad?

            Ooo .. everything is clear, the next "but for us" laughing Yes, you recently attacked the warehouse of Syria for no reason. And before that, do you think everyone forgot about the raids? This is not called indirect support, but completely direct, military support. Direct does not happen.
            1. -1
              14 October 2015 09: 15
              Quote: born_in_cssr
              Oooh .. everything is clear, another "and we are for scho" Yes, you just recently attacked a warehouse in Syria for no reason. And before that, do you think everyone has forgotten about the raids? This is not called indirect support, but completely direct, military support. It can't be straighter.

              Yes of course. They destroyed the warehouse, which drove Assad’s troops a year and a half ago, now he certainly has no chance ... Like a circus, you have nothing to say in the case, so I see no reason to answer you anymore. Good luck
              1. 0
                14 October 2015 09: 20
                Quote: Rumata
                Yes of course. Destroyed the warehouse that drove Assad’s troops a year and a half ago, now he definitely has no chance ...

                That's right!
                Well, you think bombarded, oh well, who doesn’t happen ... Yeah
                Why are you any better than terrorists?
                Quote: Rumata
                Like a circus, you have nothing to say in the case, so I see no reason to answer you anymore. Good luck

                And you jump, some of them are helped by the races, when there is such a mess in their heads and someone wants to make a "gilyak".
              2. +1
                14 October 2015 11: 14
                Why so much pathos? Israel simply benefits from the presence of the SSA in the Gollan than the ATS armies. It’s easy to explain - the commanders of the SSA are therefore tame, so tame. This injured SSA is treated in Israel, but since they are not particularly outwardly different from the IS, many believe Israel treats bearded IS. No need to weave geopolitics and list a bunch of Israel’s neighbors with whom it does not get along.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2015 11: 21
                  Quote: yushch
                  Why so much pathos? Israel simply benefits from the presence of the SSA in the Gollan than the ATS armies. It’s easy to explain - the commanders of the SSA are therefore tame, so tame. This injured SSA is treated in Israel, but since they are not particularly outwardly different from the IS, many believe Israel treats bearded IS. No need to weave geopolitics and list a bunch of Israel’s neighbors with whom it does not get along.

                  Israel doesn’t care who will be sitting on the other side of the border, the main thing is not to shoot at us. And you are wrong about the treatment of terrorists, we are treating all those whom the United Nations bring to us. As for the benefit, in my humble opinion, Israel is favored by pro-Syrian Syria and not pro-Iranian.
                  1. avt
                    0
                    14 October 2015 13: 14
                    Quote: Hello
                    Israel doesn’t care who will be sitting on the other side of the border, the main thing is not to shoot at us.

                    laughing laughing Wanted to make it funny? You succeeded! Well in the light
                    Quote: avt
                    Only a complete idiot could not understand what if stir up in Syria as it is today, then the IRGC will appear in the thousands and, accordingly, Assad will be taken rigidly in the schenkel for this help.

                    That’s what I’m watching lately, senior officers of the IRGC and the leadership of Hesbollah began to die in batches.
                    1. +3
                      14 October 2015 15: 11
                      In fact, Iran was there before and felt quite fine. Are you implying that Israel distinguished itself in the elimination of Iranians with Hezbalons? Honestly, I would not mind, but most likely everything is much more commonplace. By the way, if you hit the conspiracy theory, you can assume that they will be blamed, and the rival should be blamed on Israel as well. respectfully hi
                2. +1
                  14 October 2015 11: 38
                  Quote: yushch
                  Why so much pathos? Israel is simply more profitable in the Gollan presence of the SSA than the army of the SAR

                  in general, the border with Syria has been the calmest for 40 years. there really wasn’t a fence there. So . that your allegations have no basis
                3. +1
                  14 October 2015 11: 38
                  Quote: yushch
                  Why so much pathos? Israel is simply more profitable in the Gollan presence of the SSA than the army of the SAR

                  in general, the border with Syria has been the calmest for 40 years. there really wasn’t a fence there. So . that your allegations have no basis
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          2. 0
            14 October 2015 09: 10
            1. Artillery attacks aimed at suppressing the assault of Assad’s troops on the position of Isil on the border and clearly disproportionate to a random projectile that flew into the Israeli desert from the Syrian side.
            2. Israeli instructors directly directing the actions of field commanders.
            3. Supplies of weapons.
            4. Treatment and sending back to the front of the wounded Ishilovites.
            You can continue for a long time.
            1. -1
              14 October 2015 09: 14
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              1. Artillery attacks aimed at suppressing the assault of Assad’s troops on the position of Isil on the border and clearly disproportionate to a random projectile that flew into the Israeli desert from the Syrian side.

              For killing your son, what price do you think is proportional?

              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              2. Israeli instructors directly directing the actions of field commanders.

              Bullshit. Things to the studio.

              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              3. Supplies of weapons.

              Bullshit. Things to the studio.


              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              4. Treatment and sending back to the front of the wounded Ishilovites.

              Israel treats all who are delivered by the UN without asking for a name and surname. Israel treats about 120 Palestinians a year for free.

              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              You can continue for a long time.

              Keep lying, yes. To tell the truth, you can’t.
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              2. -1
                14 October 2015 13: 06
                My friend, everything is subjective. My subjective view of this issue is as follows. It came from the information that I received on this issue in recent years from various sources. The fact that you noticed my post and answered me is flattering. The fact that you switched to banal insults amuses me. To change my attitude, I must see a change in the attitude of Israel towards the Arabs, which is unlikely. You hold them for animals, treat them like animals, and then you are surprised that they are furious like animals.
            2. +1
              14 October 2015 11: 40
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Artillery attacks aimed at suppressing the assault of Assad’s troops on the position of Isil on the border and obviously disproportionate to a random projectile flown into the Israeli desert from the Syrian side.

              Israel does not launch artillery strikes in support of ISIS. if you do not believe. then at least look where ISIS is located. you can’t get a gun from Israel

              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Israeli instructors directly directing the actions of field commanders.

              can I have proof?
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Arms supplies

              And with this if you can
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Treatment and sending back to the front of the wounded Ishilovites. You can continue for a long time.

              ISIS?
            3. +1
              14 October 2015 11: 40
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Artillery attacks aimed at suppressing the assault of Assad’s troops on the position of Isil on the border and obviously disproportionate to a random projectile flown into the Israeli desert from the Syrian side.

              Israel does not launch artillery strikes in support of ISIS. if you do not believe. then at least look where ISIS is located. you can’t get a gun from Israel

              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Israeli instructors directly directing the actions of field commanders.

              can I have proof?
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Arms supplies

              And with this if you can
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Treatment and sending back to the front of the wounded Ishilovites. You can continue for a long time.

              ISIS?
          3. +2
            14 October 2015 20: 19
            Quote: Rumata
            Where and when did Israel support ISIS? Where and when did Israel help the enemies of Assad? And it is not necessary only about patients in hospitals, these are international conventions, as well as Ukrainians in Russian hospitals. Before throwing such accusations, the facts are in the studio.

            Do you need specifically with video proofs, fingerprints and location maps or just believe it?
            A number of recent United Nations reports (see, for example, S / 2013 / 345, S / 2014 / 401 or S / 2014 / 859) indicate that the Israeli armed forces (IDF) regularly contact with members of the so-called Islamic state, starting in May 2013 year. This report prompted Addicting info publicist Nathaniel Downs to address in more detail the problem of clarifying the true sides of the confrontation in the Middle East.
            Initially, the Israelis themselves explained the contacts with the obvious enemy as providing assistance in the field of medical care for civilians, but later UN observers were forced to refute this version, since they obtained direct evidence of cooperation between IDF representatives and ISIS fighters. It included the transfer by the Israeli military of two boxes with unknown contents to the forces of the “Islamic state”, as well as the regular provision of military field medical assistance to terrorist units. The report also notes the fact that the Syrian side had information about these contacts, whose representatives repeatedly made claims against their Israeli neighbors, accusing them of secretly participating in a military conflict within their country.
            Here, by the way, and about your hospital, it is writtenhttp: //usapress.net/blizhnij-vostok/212-oon-obnarodovala-fakty-o
            -svyazi-igil-i-armii-izrailya
      2. avt
        +2
        14 October 2015 09: 31
        Quote: Rumata
        But not with Assad, he’s the personal dog of the Iranian ayatollahs,

        Only a complete idiot could not understand what if stir up in Syria as it is today, then the IRGC would not appear in the thousands and, accordingly, Assad would be taken rigidly in the schenkel for this help. But someone really wanted a hike, and maybe someone suggested that a bunch of Hesbolls biting with each other and nuts with knives on the territory of Israel are much more useful than a state with centralized power in Syria, even if it is an order of magnitude weaker militarily towards Israel.
        Quote: Rumata
        Israel could speed up the whole process at times.

        This "accelerates" on a regular basis - just recently they were duped by Assad's troops near Damascus.
  4. +2
    14 October 2015 07: 13
    Now, Sasha-Atalef, think about the topic: how not to offend the terrorists ... I think that TOS would be applied without hesitation.
  5. +4
    14 October 2015 07: 16
    Something the Arabs in Israel are completely brutalized .. (they already rush with clerics) Those killed are a pity of course .. My condolences. hi
    1. +3
      14 October 2015 07: 32
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Something the Arabs in Israel are completely brutalized ..

      Who is brutalized? belay
      The moderate opposition expressed moderate protest to the tyrant regime of Netanyahu.
      The aunts attacked the children and, in the attack, they mutilated themselves, slaughtered themselves, and some fired. Here are the animals! It is necessary to carry out the international blockade of Israel and impose international sanctions. am
    2. +3
      14 October 2015 08: 34
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Something the Arabs in Israel are completely brutalized .. (they already rush with clerics) Those killed are a pity of course .. My condolences. hi

      And with axes ...

      This, by the way, worked as a technician in the largest telephone company in Israel, from hunger is not fluff. Despite the fact that his cousins ​​were the ones who in 2014 attacked the worshipers in the synagogue with a pistol and axes, killing 5 people.
      This is to the words of the Professor, that flirted with democracy, it is ...
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 08: 37
        Quote: Rumata
        And with axes ...

        You haven’t seen a Molotov cocktail yet ...
        Keep up the good work and there will be a lot of interesting videos.
        Quote: Rumata
        This, by the way, worked as a technician in the largest telephone company in Israel, from hunger is not fluff. Despite the fact that his cousins ​​were the ones who in 2014 attacked the worshipers in the synagogue with a pistol and axes, killing 5 people.
        This is to the words of the Professor, that flirted with democracy, it is ...

        Yes, of course, democracy is to blame for the fact that not a poor person "just like that" rushed with an ax laughing At least here there are no thoughts that your enemy is now not Syria, but something worse?
        Just logically thinking? Not? Or is it generally in the order of things for you? Well, think not the poor man rushed with an ax, it’s immediately clear that an eccentric freaks out with fat ...
        1. +2
          14 October 2015 08: 55
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          You haven’t seen a Molotov cocktail yet ...
          Keep up the good work and there will be a lot of interesting videos.

          I did not see? Or wasn’t this in the country? What kind of circus? Molotov cocktails are now often thrown in Judea and Samaria, and when I served it was a common thing every day. Do not scare the scared ...
          1. +1
            14 October 2015 09: 04
            Quote: Rumata
            I did not see? Or wasn’t this in the country? What kind of circus? Molotov cocktails are now often thrown in Judea and Samaria, and when I served it was a common thing every day. Do not scare the scared ...

            Well, at the same time with the knives, wasn’t it? You have a lot of interesting things to come, but as I understand it, thugs from ISIS do not bother you much, so I shouldn’t worry about you either ...
            Good luck, as they say hi
            1. +3
              14 October 2015 09: 10
              Quote: born_in_cssr
              Well, at the same time with the knives, wasn’t it? You have a lot of interesting things to come, but as I understand it, thugs from ISIS do not bother you much, so I shouldn’t worry about you either ...
              Good luck, as they say

              Read about the second antifada, they survived it and with Molotov bottles and knives, somehow, we can handle it.
              All bad
              1. 0
                14 October 2015 09: 42
                Quote: Rumata
                All bad

                And why are you so hated by the Arabs? ... Strange, such nice guys ... what
      2. -1
        14 October 2015 10: 54
        Quote: Rumata
        This, by the way, worked as a technician in the largest telephone company in Israel, from hunger is not fluff. Despite the fact that his cousins ​​were the ones who in 2014 attacked the worshipers in the synagogue with a pistol and axes, killing 5 people.
        This is to the words of the Professor, that flirted with democracy, it is ...

        At the expense of "democracy" I doubt it ... Israel immediately inflicted airstrikes and no matter the victims! The last time, here's a calmer art. Strike on Syria)))) Your policy is not correct (this is putting it mildly) .. If the Arabs men throw themselves under a video camera with axes and shoot in buses .. Maybe you killed their children and they can't with living it just by working for you ..? hi
        1. +2
          14 October 2015 11: 11
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          At the expense of "democracy" I doubt it ... Israel immediately inflicted airstrikes and no matter the victims! The last time, here's a calmer art. Strike on Syria)))) Your policy is not correct (this is putting it mildly) .. If the Arabs men throw themselves under a video camera with axes and shoot in buses .. Maybe you killed their children and they can't with living it just by working for you ..?

          Yes of course. We killed two cousins ​​with a terrorist yesterday, after they broke into the synagogue and killed 5 worshipers with axes ... Nobody bombing Judea and Samaria, or does a peasant in the West Bank have children living in Gaza? And about democracy, we are babysitting too much. Here is one of the surviving terrorists, lacking only a masseuse.
          1. -1
            14 October 2015 11: 19
            Quote: Rumata
            And about democracy, we are babysitting too much. Here is one of the surviving terrorists, lacking only a masseuse.

            Treat one, soak a hundred ..)))) We know these little things information! bully Do not act!
            1. +4
              14 October 2015 11: 25
              Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
              Treat one, soak a hundred ..)))) We know these little things information! Do not act!

              What then can I talk to you about? I'm trying to explain what the problem is on the part of an Israeli citizen, but 90% of the answers in this topic boil down to "concentration camps, genocides, beasts of Israelis, poor Palestinians"
        2. +2
          14 October 2015 15: 16
          I would like to see those children whom we killed. For example, during the service I was forbidden to shoot a 13-year-old teenager who threw the Molotov cocktail into the car and injured an elderly man. Or maybe they just have their brains that have power in their hands? When the external enemy has everything to write off can.
      3. 0
        14 October 2015 12: 12
        Quote: Rumata
        This is to the words of the Professor, that flirted with democracy, it is ...

        And why this ... .. (bad person) did not immediately fail? After all, they shot.
        1. +2
          14 October 2015 12: 22
          Quote: Bayonet
          And why this ... .. (bad person) did not immediately fail? After all, they shot.

          Unfortunately, not everyone is shot. Many passersby simply disarm. Many more of those who open fire the security services survive, since they are immediately sent to the hospital and to the operating table, by the way, at my expense.
          1. +1
            14 October 2015 22: 01
            Quote: Rumata
            since they are immediately to the hospital and to the operating table, by the way, at my expense.

            Sorry sorry don rumata hi
        2. +1
          14 October 2015 12: 30
          Quote: Bayonet
          And why this ... .. (bad person) did not immediately fail? After all, they shot.

          How can one kill and even more so kill an already wounded child?
          1. +4
            14 October 2015 13: 59
            Quote: professor
            Quote: Bayonet
            And why this ... .. (bad person) did not immediately fail? After all, they shot.

            How can one kill and even more so kill an already wounded child?

            Are you waiting for him to gain strength and kill someone else? what Probably, it is also impossible to deport him: he lives in Israel, if not at all a citizen of the country ...
            Moreover, in Gaza, thugs from Hamaz are fed with free energy, water, humanitarian aid, so that it is easier for them to prepare terrorist acts against you. Honestly, I’m awesome from your leadership. It is impossible in the East to approach everything from the point of view of the western man in the street and evaluate it by the standards of Western democracy. Moreover, they constantly look back at this West: all of a sudden they will say something, condemn there, express indignation, etc. All the problems in the West Bank and Gaza could be solved a long time ago - for this you only need to show your will and nothing else!
          2. 0
            14 October 2015 21: 59
            Quote: professor
            How can one kill and even more so kill an already wounded child?

            Such creatures - not possible, but necessary!
        3. +1
          14 October 2015 12: 32
          Quote: Bayonet
          And why this ... .. (bad person) did not immediately fail? After all, they shot.


          Legs, these are the rules of opening fire.
          because . that shoot from the first shot. then you’ll get tired of explaining to the police why you didn’t immobilize him in the legs or somewhere else.
          1. +2
            14 October 2015 15: 20
            Atalef you are wrong in a person with a weapon (cold or gunshot) you can shoot without a second word, the only thing that should be an immediate danger to life. That is, if he is standing with a knife behind the fence and around him no one can shoot to kill with maximum legs and then after threatening with a weapon and demanding to throw a knife. Regards wink
            1. +2
              14 October 2015 15: 42
              Quote: Hello
              Atalef you are wrong in a person with a weapon (cold or gunshot) you can shoot without a second word, the only thing that should be an immediate danger to life.

              Immediate danger to life is a loose concept. For an ordinary soldier or an armed civilian, there are two requirements, emtsai and kavana. That is, a weapon (any) and the intention to use it. Therefore, the soldier who was the second to shoot the Arab at the bus station may have a headache in the coming months as there was a possibility, before that she attacked the soldier, but then it was not clear whether she had intentions or not, since she just stood and he should was shoot at the legs. Such situations are not unambiguous from the point of view of the law, it is good that there was a policeman and he was the first to open fire, but our leftists still make noise everywhere where you can find fault. Everything written above, of course, does not apply to the police, they have my own rules that vary depending on the situation.
              1. +3
                14 October 2015 16: 12
                Not quite so respected, there are two more concepts of "fly", "miyadi", something real and something that happens immediately. In addition to weapons and intentions, two more of these concepts must be present, before it was called "yachlet", that is, the opportunity to commit. has already committed or is taking an action there are no problems with elimination unless he is "nichna" that is, surrenders, then shooting is prohibited. By the way, in the video that you posted with the driver of the base, if you pay attention, the guard knocked out his knife and when he started to run away he shot . I assure you he will not have problems with the law for the reason that all this is a continuation of one case, and no one knows whether he can have a continuation.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2015 16: 59
                  Mukhashi, miyadi and so on concerns the guards, but not the soldiers. At least there were such rules a couple of years ago. But the guards have everything as you tell. And about the video with the car, there will be no problems. I meant this
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2015 17: 10
                    To be honest, it’s hard to see what happened there with a knife in her hand? By the way, we noticed a magavnitsa with ice cream at 10 seconds. laughing Why do you think that the second shooter will have problems with the law? And why the first one will not? Thanks in advance for the answer
                    1. +3
                      14 October 2015 17: 20
                      She’s not only with ice cream, she still managed to drop the clip, but she didn’t let go of the ice cream =)
                      The first shooter is a policeman, they have completely different rules. The border guard standing to his left also shot, although according to army rules he should not. She stood still with a knife in her hand, but she was not in danger. If you ask me, you did everything right, but if you really want to find fault, you can, because in such a situation a soldier even had the right to shoot at his feet.
                      This is different from the case in Tel Aviv when a navy officer opened fire on a terrorist who was fleeing. He saw the attack, saw a knife in his hands and simply had to open fire.
                      It’s worthwhile to pay tribute, almost every terrorist attack is filmed on video, and there’s nothing to complain about, except for 1-2 cases, everything is unambiguous and people act adequately. As for me it’s bad, too many people will now be treated, and then get higher education in prison at my expense, after they attacked civilians with axes to kill am
                      1. +1
                        14 October 2015 18: 11
                        Quote: Rumata
                        She’s not only with ice cream, she still managed to drop the clip, but she didn’t let go of the ice cream =)
                        The first shooter is a policeman, they have completely different rules. The border guard standing to his left also shot, although according to army rules he should not. She stood still with a knife in her hand, but she was not in danger. If you ask me, you did everything right, but if you really want to find fault, you can, because in such a situation a soldier even had the right to shoot at his feet.
                        This is different from the case in Tel Aviv when a navy officer opened fire on a terrorist who was fleeing. He saw the attack, saw a knife in his hands and simply had to open fire.
                        It’s worthwhile to pay tribute, almost every terrorist attack is filmed on video, and there’s nothing to complain about, except for 1-2 cases, everything is unambiguous and people act adequately. As for me this is bad, too many people will now be treated and then get higher education in prison at my expense am

                        Apparently she is one of the young people who have not yet worked. Regarding the border guard and the policeman, I disagree with you if the conversation is about "nichna" both could not shoot if she committed aggressive actions both should shoot, she apparently did not throw the knife but did not show aggression to answer the first shooter ironically, the second is not a fact , if the court will so introduce it, of course.
              2. 0
                14 October 2015 22: 08
                Quote: Rumata
                Immediate danger to life is a loose concept.

                Well, in that video, a scumbag hacked to death in my two, with him what to decide? My hand would not have trembled without any "fly" and "miyadi" negative
                1. +1
                  15 October 2015 12: 56
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  Quote: Rumata
                  Immediate danger to life is a loose concept.

                  Well, in that video, a scumbag hacked to death in my two, with him what to decide? My hand would not have trembled without any "fly" and "miyadi" negative

                  Do you mean a movie with a car and a bus stop? If so, that’s all with this hare. good
          2. +1
            14 October 2015 22: 04
            Quote: atalef
            why didn’t immobilize a shot in the legs or somewhere else.

            So if there is a choice somewhere, it’s better to go directly to the forehead - it’s immobilizing for sure!
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  6. -5
    14 October 2015 07: 16
    Quote: inkass_98
    why not try to make Syria a friendly neighbor and crush terrorism together?

    http://mfa.gov.il/MFARUS/ForeignRelations/PeaceProcess/Pages/BilateralSyria.aspx

    Quote: inkass_98
    After all, Jordan (like Egypt) is for some reason not hostile to Israel.

    who wanted to agree agreed.
    1. +1
      14 October 2015 08: 03
      Well, once agreed - get and sign!
  7. +6
    14 October 2015 07: 22
    As I understand it, if you follow the logic of Israel, then they themselves are to blame for everything and Benjamin Netanyahu is personally responsible for the attacks. I’m talking about shelling the positions of the Syrian army in the Golan and the justification of Israel why they did it.
  8. 0
    14 October 2015 08: 10
    There is a guerrilla war against the occupiers. When they create two states according to the UN decision of 1948, in my year, they will return the refugees who were expelled from their homes, then there will be peace. It’s a pity that innocent people die. Israel began with provocations at the Al-Aqsa Mosque and shot a young girl for no reason and now screams about a surge of terrorism. If you spit over your head, then you should not be surprised then what kind of rain it is dripping.
    1. -1
      14 October 2015 08: 43
      Quote: RuslanNN
      who were kicked out of their homes

      Who kicked out? =) This is how history rewrites, some having listened to the calls of the Arab leaders, left their homes and left, others 70 years later call it expulsion from the house ...
      If they were kicked out, why are there so many Arabs in Israel? Everyone was kicked out. And if few were left, the question arises - how were they supposed to breed so that by 2014 there would be 1, 750% of the country's population.? Any ideas?
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 08: 49
        Of course there are ideas. I invite you, my dear, to study the history of Israel. Many questions will disappear.
        1. +1
          14 October 2015 09: 08
          Quote: Angro Magno
          Of course there are ideas. I invite you, my dear, to study the history of Israel. Many questions will disappear.

          I just know this story. I will ask again, there are almost a million Arabs living in the north of the country. Where did they come from if everyone was kicked out during the War of Independence? Galilee, Jezreel Valley and other Arab residences, from the 48th part of the State of Israel. Nazareth, 70% of whose population is Muslim Arabs, has been an Israeli city since the 48th when the 7th Panzer Brigade, together with the Golani Infantry Brigade, took it with little or no resistance. Everyone was kicked out of Nazareth, but then they miraculously returned?
          1. 0
            14 October 2015 09: 20
            Firstly, they were left to work hard and hard, because the Jews are not kosher to work like that. Secondly, they were left so that the Israeli army and police were on whom to train.
            The state, created by the Jews who survived the concentration camps, drove a whole nation - Palestinians - into such a camp and does not understand the essence of the problem. Get rid of the Jews lost historical memory!
            1. 0
              14 October 2015 09: 32
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              The state, created by the Jews who survived the concentration camps, drove a whole nation - Palestinians - into such a camp and does not understand the essence of the problem. Get rid of the Jews lost historical memory!

              You should live like the Israeli Arabs live in "concentration camps". They have a higher standard of living and higher incomes, a higher level of medical care, and a higher level of education. Higher life expectancy. Maybe it's not they in the camp, but you? wink
            2. +3
              14 October 2015 09: 38
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Firstly, they were left to work hard and hard, because the Jews are not kosher to work like that. Secondly, they were left so that the Israeli army and police were on whom to train.

              Well, when did the army and police train on the Israeli Arabs in Nazareth? As I see it, you have cereal in your head, all in one pile.
              Over 40 years, 11 Palestinians have died in this conflict, of which most are militants. But let's say a concentration camp and all the dead, they are children, women and the elderly. During the storming of Grozny, almost as many CIVIL civilians died in 000 weeks. For 5 years of the First Chechen, according to official figures, more than 3 civilians died. For 70 years 000, for 40 years 11000. And I do not claim that the RF Armed Forces destroyed civilians, this is an example of the fact that this whole conflict is a drop in the bucket compared to what is happening in the world, everyone is fixated on Israel. About Sudan, with its 3 dead and 70 refugees, none of you speak. But in Israel, a concentration camp, we destroy the Arabs in billions a day.
          2. +1
            14 October 2015 09: 26
            For rumata

            For the story, contact the Ukrainians. And you will soon hear that it is the Ukrainians, led by Mikha, who fled from Egypt and eventually found the promised land. Others do not need to learn history.
          3. +1
            14 October 2015 09: 28
            I am begging you. Millions of Palestinian refugees where did they come from? Just do not tell me a Jewish fairy tale that there are no Palestinians, but there are Lebanese and Jordanians who call themselves Palestinians in order to receive humanitarian aid from the international community.
            I heard that.
            And I do not claim to have expelled ALL Palestinians. Part was captured with Jerusalem in the 1968 year.
            1. -2
              14 October 2015 09: 34
              Quote: Angro Magno
              Millions of Palestinian refugees where did they come from?

              Billions

              Quote: Angro Magno
              Just do not tell me a Jewish fairy tale that there are no Palestinians, but there are Lebanese and Jordanians who call themselves Palestinians in order to receive humanitarian aid from the international community.

              Take us to clean water. Tell us about the Palestinian language, the Palestinian religion, the Palestinian culture, the Palestinian state. wink

              Quote: Angro Magno
              And I do not claim to have expelled ALL Palestinians. Part was captured with Jerusalem in the 1968 year.

              1968th wink
              1. +2
                14 October 2015 09: 50
                Quote: Angro Magno
                And I do not claim to have expelled ALL Palestinians. Part was captured with Jerusalem in the 1968 year.

                It turns out that the Israeli parliament was sitting in Jerusalem, 18 years before its capture, magic. Not Jerusalem, but East Jerusalem, not 1968, but 1967, and then there were no Palestinians. But suppose, how many "Palestinians" Israel had to enslave in 45 years, the number of Arabs grew from 0 to 1? Did so many people live then in all Jerusalem, and not only in East ...
              2. +1
                14 October 2015 09: 53
                Easily.
                As of January 2010, 4.7 million Palestinian refugees were registered.
                Palestinians are residents of Palestine, at various times included in various empires and mandated territories. I recommend searching the net for a cool music video about this.
                As for their origin, there are different opinions. Yasra Arafat has his own. Internet to help, because a lot of information. I was not specifically interested in haplotypes and I’m not sure that the studies were carried out.
                Religion. Sunni Islam, partially Christianity.
                Sometimes the features of culture are not for me. You live nearby, you know better. And I am a Jordanian from a Syrian in appearance and reprimand I will not distinguish. I live far in the north.

                In short, I do not see the Palestinians, but I know that they are. You see them, but you know that they are not there, although they occupied East Jerusalem even half a year earlier, thereby distorting even more karma. I wanted to help you with this.
                It always amused me.
                1. +3
                  14 October 2015 09: 57
                  Quote: Angro Magno
                  As of January 2010, 4.7 million Palestinian refugees were registered.
                  Palestinians are residents of Palestine, at various times included in various empires and mandated territories. I recommend searching the net for a cool music video about this.
                  As for their origin, there are different opinions. Yasra Arafat has his own.

                  1. 0
                    14 October 2015 10: 00
                    Yes Yes. It is from there.
                    It is strange that you yourself looked there only now.
                    Since Wikipedia is edited mainly by Anglo-Saxons, it is the most kosher source of information to date.
                2. +2
                  14 October 2015 10: 03
                  Quote: Angro Magno
                  Palestinians are Palestinians

                  Residents of what? Which Palestine? Until 1948, Jews of Mandatory Palestine called themselves Palestinians. The state of Palestine never existed. No Palestinian language. There is no Palestinian religion. There is no Palestinian culture. There is no Palestinian people. Assad said that they are all Syrians. He was wrong. Not all. There are Egyptians and Sudanese among them, as well as Bedouins.

                  Quote: Angro Magno
                  In short, I do not see the Palestinians, but I know that they are.

                  I don’t see Martians, but I know that they are.

                  Quote: Angro Magno
                  You see them, but you know that they are not there, although they occupied East Jerusalem even half a year earlier, thereby distorting even more karma.

                  We don’t see them either. We see ordinary Arabs no different from the Jordanian or Syrian Sunnis.
                  1. +2
                    14 October 2015 10: 11
                    Heh heh.
                    And who claimed that there is a Palestinian language and a Palestinian religion? Point with your finger.
                    As for Martians, I recommend communicating with UFOlogs.
                    Jordanian Arab - Jordanian. Palestinian Arab - Palestinian. Elementary Watson.
            2. +3
              14 October 2015 11: 00
              Quote: Angro Magno
              I am begging you. Millions of Palestinian refugees where did they come from? Just do not tell me a Jewish fairy tale that there are no Palestinians, but there are Lebanese and Jordanians who call themselves Palestinians in order to receive humanitarian aid from the international community.
              I heard that.
              And I do not claim to have expelled ALL Palestinians. Part was captured with Jerusalem in the 1968 year.

              About millions of refugees, this is cool, but do you know the esteemed that the Palestinians are the only ones who are recognized as refugees in the second and third generation, that is, those who were born in Jordan, let’s say refugees in 2000, is it strange, isn't it? By the way, all other refugees do without it. And the answer is that big uncles from the UN make big money, who will quit such a business?
              1. -1
                14 October 2015 11: 44
                It is known. What's wrong with that? Death to alienation does not deprive offspring of their right to inheritance.
                As for the only people, let me remind you how Jewish human rights activists defended the Crimean Tatars and Chechens. Why is that? And because the Everi-human rights defenders made their little gesheft on deportees. In short, nothing is new under the moon.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2015 12: 25
                  Quote: Angro Magno
                  Death to alienation does not deprive offspring of their right to inheritance.

                  1. Deprives. There is a concept of limitation.
                  2. We have not occupied any of the houses. So they stand empty.


                  3. Only a person who has left his place of residence is considered a refugee. And only in the first country to which he got. Children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. born in other countries are not considered refugees. So I can be a "refugee" because my ancestors were expelled from Israel 2000 years ago. wink So there are no 4.7 million Palestinian refugees.

                  Quote: Angro Magno
                  And because the Everi-human rights defenders made their little gesheft on deportees.

                  And they drank the blood of Christian babies.
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2015 13: 16
                    How noble it is! Drive people out of houses and not take these houses! And just build your settlements nearby and fence off the Arabs with a tall fence. Awesome mental solution to the question!
                    1. +1
                      14 October 2015 13: 49
                      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
                      How noble it is! Drive people out of houses and not take these houses! And just build your settlements nearby and fence off the Arabs with a tall fence. Awesome mental solution to the question!

                      And here settlements, talk about Israeli Arabs. Such houses stand in the center of Haifa for example. Each of your messages proves that you not only do not know what and how in Israel, you even got confused about what you were arguing about. Everything mixed up in a heap - people, horses ...
                  2. 0
                    14 October 2015 13: 52
                    1. Professor, do you know the term "restitution"?
                    2. I appreciated the humor. Is there a satellite dish on the second photo, is it hanging? And what does a washing machine do under a canopy? Has 1967 been worth it? Not Vyatka automatic machine? Not?
                    3. Tell us about it in the Palestinian camps. Just like that, and say: you are not there, you are an optical illusion.
                    4. But about Christian babies no one pulled your tongue. So call it.
                    1. +1
                      14 October 2015 14: 01
                      Quote: Angro Magno
                      1. Professor, do you know the term "restitution"?

                      Famous. Winners do not pay it.

                      Quote: Angro Magno
                      2. I appreciated the humor. Is there a satellite dish on the second photo, is it hanging? And what does a washing machine do under a canopy? Has 1967 been worth it? Not Vyatka automatic machine? Not?

                      Arabs live in the part of the house. Can you imagine? Jews are not all evicted.


                      Quote: Angro Magno
                      3. Tell us about it in the Palestinian camps. Just like that, and say: you are not there, you are an optical illusion.

                      From what I tell them the essence of international law will not change. 4th generation refugee camps are Arabs' patent. There is no such thing anywhere else.
                      Quote: Angro Magno


                      4. But about Christian babies no one pulled your tongue. So call it.

                      We are nowhere without blood.
                      1. -1
                        14 October 2015 14: 17
                        1. Apparently, you do not feel like a complete winner. Otherwise, they would not have appealed to the statute of limitations.
                        2. Yes, not all. So what? Does this excuse anyone? Or does it refute something? Unsuccessful justification attempt.
                        3. This should stress the Jews especially. The Crimean Tatars in Turkey do not bother me. And the Palestinians are patiently (or not) waiting in the wings. And there are more and more of them. Anxious? Or do not care?
                        4. Yes, everyone knows that. I myself didn’t specifically pedal the topic, so as not to embarrass or wake up ancient instincts. But you yourself let slip. By the way, are you interested in the supply of donated Christian blood? There is vegetarian blood for overweight Jews.
                      2. +1
                        14 October 2015 14: 25
                        Quote: Angro Magno
                        1. Apparently, you do not feel like a complete winner. Otherwise, they would not have appealed to the statute of limitations.

                        Judging by the empty houses, we won.

                        Quote: Angro Magno
                        2. Yes, not all. So what? Does this excuse anyone? Or does it refute something? Unsuccessful justification attempt.

                        No excuses. Arabs started the war, Arabs lost the war. All the fault is on them.

                        Quote: Angro Magno
                        3. This should stress the Jews especially. The Crimean Tatars in Turkey do not bother me. And the Palestinians are patiently (or not) waiting in the wings. And there are more and more of them. Anxious? Or do not care?

                        Palestinians cannot wait in the wings since there are no Palestinians. An Arab state, Jordan, has already been created on the territory of Mandatory Palestine. The question is closed.

                        Quote: Angro Magno
                        4. Yes, everyone knows that.

                        Well, nice. laughing
                      3. 0
                        14 October 2015 14: 52
                        As it turns out, the issue with the Palestinians is finally closed, due to the lack thereof. So there’s nothing to worry about. Neither to me nor to you. In principle, a fairly common position, although I prefer not to think ahead.
                        At the end of today's discussion, let me congratulate you, Professor. After all, the main thing for overthinking what? Overcome fear. Moreover, there is no particular fear, and it never has been, and there is no need to talk about it at all.
                        Harbor yourself.
                        Then I take my leave. See you again.
            3. +5
              14 October 2015 12: 28
              Quote: Angro Magno
              Just do not tell me a Jewish fairy tale that there are no Palestinians,

              This "fairy tale" is not Jewish - Syrian President Hafez Assad, addressing the Palestinian leader, Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), President of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) Yasser Arafat, "the father of the Palestinian people", said:
              “You cannot imagine Palestine like us. Never forget one thing: There is no such thing as the Palestinian people. there is no Palestinian education. there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore, we, the Syrian authorities, are genuine representatives of the Palestinian people. ”
              1. 0
                14 October 2015 13: 54
                Already answered, I will answer again. The Palestinian is not a nationality, it is a geographical affiliation. Syrians are also of different nationalities.
                As for Assad, geographically, the historical concept of Syria differs markedly from the borders of the current state. I will assume that Assad owns the topic.
            4. +2
              14 October 2015 14: 07
              Quote: Angro Magno
              Millions of Palestinian refugees where did they come from?

              Look at the statistics. Now there are really millions of fugitive "Palestinians", some number up to 10-11 million.
              But in reality about 200 thousand were evicted from the territory of Israel, someone cites the figure of 400 thousand. I do not support or approve of this step, but it was. Do you think these Arabs multiplied like that? Far from it! If they were recognized as refugees, it was possible not to work, living on humanitarian aid. As a result, millions of Arabs from different countries suddenly became "Palestinians". Freebies are extremely attractive!
              And it’s not at all a people - it’s the same Arabs as the rest
              1. +4
                14 October 2015 14: 16
                Quote: andj61
                But in reality, about 200 thousand were evicted from the territory of Israel

                Nobody evicted them, except in isolated cases, they left on their own. Even the wiki says -

                During the Arab-Israeli war of 1948-1949 and before it, most Arabs - residents of Palestine, partly fleeing hostilities, and also under pressure from their leaders [5] left their places of residence located in the territory defined in accordance with the UN resolution on section of Palestine, for the Jewish state [6] [7] [8].

                During the Six Day War of 1967, more than 300 refugees left the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip and the West Bank and moved to Jordan and Syria

                If you delve into it, you can also find it in the sources on more serious Wikipedia.
                1. -3
                  14 October 2015 14: 23
                  Of course yourself. Jews have absolutely nothing to do with it. Every Wikipedia knows this.
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  10. -2
    14 October 2015 08: 21
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And what was the provocation?

    They have provocations every other day ... so what ... that it is strange to live together, in the same cafe they sit together.
    Someone likes to pit them together. Interestingly, this will continue indefinitely.
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  12. +3
    14 October 2015 08: 42
    The aggravation of the situation in Israel, of course, is not good, no matter how much the Jews love and death is always woe. Condolences to the families of the innocently killed.
  13. 0
    14 October 2015 09: 09
    Terrorist attacks are certainly bad and the victims are humanly sorry. But I want to ask - shelling the sovereign state of Syria - okay? You gentlemen, Jews, love to teach us how to live and what to do. But only the question touches you, immediately a flurry of accusations of incompetence, lack of education, etc. You then, at least sometimes, carry a mirror with you and look into it periodically.
  14. -2
    14 October 2015 09: 29
    From the news - "a homemade rocket was launched, no one was injured in Israel. In response, a bomb attack was carried out on Gaza, twenty Arabs were killed, including a pregnant woman and eleven children. Arab children were throwing stones, an Israeli soldier was wounded. In response, fire was opened, and five minors were killed. villainous terrorists, suchinado! The Israelis have banned the Arabs from access to their own shrine - the Al-Aqsa mosque. The Israelis will demolish the houses of Arab suspected terrorists, where Arab families will live, Israel is not interested. Israel continues to block the multi-million Palestinian population in Gaza , depriving them of the elementary benefits of civilization and driving them into the Stone Age. "

    Do you still have questions why the Arabs attack the Israelis?
    1. -1
      14 October 2015 11: 53
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      From the news - "A homemade rocket was launched, no one was injured in Israel. In response, a bomb attack was struck on Gaza, twenty Arabs were killed, including a pregnant woman and eleven children.


      can I link?
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Arab children threw stones, an Israeli soldier was wounded. In response, fire was opened, five juvenile terrorist villains were killed, such an inado!

      and it’s the same, mr.

      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Israel continues to blockade the multi-million Palestinian population in Gaza, depriving them of the basic benefits of civilization and driving them into the stone age. "

      And with whom does Gaza border? With Egypt no longer? And the transition seems to be controlling itself, interestingly. What is this blockade if there is a border with another state?
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Do you still have questions why Arabs attack Israelis

      I know why.
      1. -2
        14 October 2015 12: 59
        And you look at Euronews in the morning, my true Jewish friend. Every morning I watch how Washington’s voice was heard before, you need to know what the enemies say about us. From there, everything, from there, review the releases over the past week. And about pregnant Arab women who died from your bombs, and about children shot by your military. Have you forgotten Russian folklore? For what he fought, he ran into something, and Israel will now run up more and more often.
        1. +2
          14 October 2015 13: 07
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          And you Euronews look in the morning, my true Jewish friend


          I am not your friend, but no problem, tell me the time of the transfer and in which language I went. I will find
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          From there everything, from there, review releases over the last week

          Everything went like this for a week, let's make it easier - one issue - time and language

          hi
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        3. +1
          14 October 2015 15: 25
          What do you say directly to pregnant women? Well, let's see. I would like facts
    2. +3
      14 October 2015 15: 24
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      From the news - "a homemade rocket was launched, no one was injured in Israel. In response, a bomb attack was carried out on Gaza, twenty Arabs were killed, including a pregnant woman and eleven children. Arab children were throwing stones, an Israeli soldier was wounded. In response, fire was opened, and five minors were killed. villainous terrorists, suchinado! The Israelis have banned the Arabs from access to their own shrine - the Al-Aqsa mosque. The Israelis will demolish the houses of Arab suspected terrorists, where Arab families will live, Israel is not interested. Israel continues to block the multi-million Palestinian population in Gaza , depriving them of the elementary benefits of civilization and driving them into the Stone Age. "

      Do you still have questions why the Arabs attack the Israelis?

      That is, you offer to answer in the same way as they do? For example, blow up buses, cut children on the street, attack an 74-year-old man with an ax, throw a Molotov cocktail into a car with 3 children.
  15. 0
    14 October 2015 09: 39
    Quote: UralChel
    Sometimes it's better to chew than talk

    Better yet, think with what you chew and where else, rather than repeat all crap like ass, buddy.
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 22: 26
      I asked all your remarks on articles, ... and ... black to disgrace is a solid negative.
      Did someone offend you? Or mom shook the cradle badly? And have you been dropped?
      You rush at all.
      Come on, you finally do not try to teach.
      Here everyone is free to think in his own way.
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    1. -1
      14 October 2015 12: 55
      They are sure that they are the IS of one left :) They relaxed a little and became insolent, hiding behind a broad American back.
      1. 0
        14 October 2015 13: 22
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        They are sure that they are the IS of one left :) They relaxed a little and became insolent, hiding behind a broad American back.


        well, nobody is fighting for us.
        1. 0
          14 October 2015 13: 23
          Quote: atalef
          well, nobody is fighting for us.

          Well, except for the US Army, 6th Fleet and Isil wink
          1. +2
            14 October 2015 15: 27
            Quote: professor
            Quote: atalef
            well, nobody is fighting for us.

            Well, except for the US Army, 6th Fleet and Isil wink

            But what about the US Federal Reserve, the world government and the ZOG? If they are not with us, then I wash my hands tongue
  17. +4
    14 October 2015 10: 04
    You can "score" your disadvantages where you are sitting or thinking, but in this case it is the same thing.
    1. +2
      14 October 2015 10: 13
      Do not pay attention, in this respect they are working according to "Stakhanovsky" with the involvement of all sympathizers. Those who fled from the USSR-Russia and did not find themselves in Israel are trying to get rid of on Russian-language sites.
  18. +4
    14 October 2015 10: 34
    Peaceful citizens were killed, and here we talked about the degree of Israel's guilt. The "heroes" did not attack a military unit, not an IDF unit (although I do not welcome this either), but civilians.
    Terrorism is the enemy of people around the world and all countries must condemn this phenomenon and fight to eradicate it. Without dividing terrorists into varieties.
    The Israelis are my condolences.
  19. +1
    14 October 2015 10: 34
    So I have already written about this more than once, that these are either perverts with masochists or a pancake, like them, but here, "migrant workers", cannot be called otherwise.
    1. +5
      14 October 2015 11: 05
      In fact, the actual incidents of attacks in Israel are purely the Palestinian people's response to decades of Israel's occupation of Arab lands and constant discrimination and abuse by Jews. And since these are purely civilians, their "weapons" consist mainly of stones and slingshots, the most formidable and terrible weapons they have are kitchen knives and axes with which they normally cut bread and chop wood, but naturally the Israeli-Jews inflated it the uprising of the oppressed into terrible and terrible terrorism.
      After all, they are always guided by this principle of propaganda:
      If they cut an Israeli Jew, then this is definitely terrorism
      If you cut goy (all other people on Earth) - then this is stabbing

      And the streams of dirt that they pour on the Palestinians are basically an outright lie designed to whitewash and justify the terror of Israeli Jews against Arabs.
      Palestinians tired of harassment and humiliation by Israel
      1. -1
        14 October 2015 11: 15
        Quote: quilted jacket
        If they cut an Israeli Jew, then this is definitely terrorism
        If you cut goy (all other people on Earth) - then this is stabbing

        The fact that you rose to the rank of Marshal speaks a lot about the garbage dump of this excellent site in the past. And how did you get out of the emergency? Stab! Although do not strain, I will return it to its place in the chicken coop
        1. +4
          14 October 2015 11: 46
          Quote: Rumata
          The fact that you rose to the rank of Marshal speaks a lot about the garbage dump of this site, which was excellent in the past.

          Don't like the site? So why are you "grazing" here then?
          And you stopped like it because people stopped believing in the "lies" and provocations that you spread and finally understood what Israel is.
          Quote: Rumata
          Although do not strain, I will return it to its place in the chicken coop

          Why are you that I’m calm, however, as always.
          And you are not "insolent" to call it "chicken coop" Emergencies where do you bring people who do not agree with you?


          1. +4
            14 October 2015 11: 55
            Speaking of Israeli ultra-right, consider local Jewish Nazis in Israel who burn Arabs alive and commit other atrocities under the guise of official Tel Aviv.
            Jewish extremism in Israel goes unpunished
  20. +2
    14 October 2015 11: 52
    The unfortunate Jews of Israel became angry with Assad because he did not talk to them without transferring to the rightful owners of these territories occupied by the Jews of the Golan Heights ... ayayayayayay like this eh?) Nanny with the Arabs in Palestine, what kind of compassionate a .. Nanny with those whose territory has been occupied, occupied, and regularly for the sake of rebellion and still threatening not to play democracy, but what do you want to drive them into the ghetto? wonder about aggression? but how do you think the person should behave on the land of which you came and took it from him and artificially maintain the tension in the region. In order to live in peace with whose land you came to, you probably need to behave differently?
    1. -1
      14 October 2015 14: 20
      In 1884, Baron Rothschild begins the purchase of land in the Golan Heights, in 1987. the transaction is finalized (Israel has merchants). In 1917 League of Nations defines these lands under
      creating a Jewish national home. In 1920 Britain receives a mandate to bring this decision to life. In 1923 does not legally transfer the Golan to the French colony. In 1941. they are also illegally attached to Syria. In 1967 Israel returns the Golan in 1981. The Knesset extends sovereignty to the Golan Heights. And so Syria owned the Golan illegally for 26 years, Israel - 49 years on the basis of annexation + merchants Rothschild + consent of the local population.
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 17: 07
        The British signature is to lay the foundation for future conflicts in the colonies. Probably everywhere where they were so shamed.
  21. +2
    14 October 2015 13: 08
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Don't like the site? So why are you "grazing" here then?

    Yes, I’m tired of repeating, I don’t like it, I don’t like it, don’t climb, but they climb and climb, climb and climb, with some maniacal persistence, for example, I’m ONE, once I went to the censor, (sorry comrades for such a comparison, but this that would be clearer) and EVERYTHING, no more even a thought arises to go there. And the "chosen of God", well, they all got rid of, spat on, how they came ... but they still sit here, I am no longer able to explain this phenomenon ...
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    2. +2
      14 October 2015 13: 17
      Quote: Alget87
      .And the "chosen by God", well, they all got ridiculous, spat on, how ... they went, but they still sit here, I am no longer able to explain this phenomenon.

      Ask the old plumber working in the hospital
      - Grandfather, you’re already 90 years old, but you plow everything, clean the tremors, aren’t you tired? Go worse retire
      - I can’t leave the medicine (grandfather answers)
      laughing
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    4. +3
      14 October 2015 13: 57
      Quote: Alget87
      Yes, I’m tired of repeating already, I don’t like it, I don’t like it, don’t climb, but after all they climb and climb, climb and climb, with some manic persistence

      It’s you who climb xenophobes, flock like a threshing floor from all other sites where you are still banned, and I've been here for 4 years. The fewer Natsiks are banned, the more normal people leave this site. I can randomly name 20 people, interesting personalities who could tell a lot of interesting things and whom I have not seen here for almost a year. But quilted jackets are marshals. There is only one recipe, in each topic you run into Jews, the United States and Europe, and that’s all, you don’t need anything else and certainly do not need knowledge on the topic of HE.
      1. +3
        14 October 2015 14: 22
        Quote: Rumata
        But quilted jackets are marshals. There is only one recipe, in each topic you run into Jews, the United States and Europe and all, nothing more is needed and certainly no knowledge on the topic of HE is needed.

        good There are actually more recipes - but essentially absolutely correct! hi
  22. -1
    14 October 2015 13: 14
    I read the comments of our people and Israeli friends and realized that a goose is a pig for a friend, and a well-fed one does not mean a hungry one. Decide who is the goose and who is the pig, who is well fed and who is hungry.
  23. -3
    14 October 2015 13: 31
    All the time they find reasons, their innocence, the murder of Arabs! What else is there to object? Let them act ... But they will forget about the "Holocaust", etc. We will no longer save .. hi How much have you already killed, for your peace of mind on this piece of land ..? There are no such statistics, alas .. Although your representatives in Ukraine (the leaders in Kiev) have done the same thing as you in Palestine (all in one with the involvement of the UN and the United States )
  24. +1
    14 October 2015 14: 56
    Until Israel adopts V. Putin's plumbing methods. there will be no end to terror. These "stone throwers" only understand power. And while it was sufficiently demonstrated by Israel, everything was more or less quiet. And as soon as the late Sharon ceased to be a militant general, whom all Israel's neighbors feared and became the capitulating prime minister, everything went on anew. Netanyahu follows the same path. One step forward, two steps back. Where, as a result, his whole country resides.
  25. +2
    14 October 2015 15: 07
    Quote: gregor6549
    These "stone throwers" only understand power.

    Like their grandfathers only understood the stars.
  26. 0
    14 October 2015 17: 12
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    Quote: Rumata
    And about democracy, we are babysitting too much. Here is one of the surviving terrorists, lacking only a masseuse.

    Treat one, soak a hundred ..)))) We know these little things information! bully Do not act!


    This one survived, the kid’s killer on the road.
  27. +4
    14 October 2015 21: 26
    Our everyday life. The commando offers his girlfriend to marry while on patrol.

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