New York Times: Syrian opposition appealed to the United States with a request to put anti-aircraft weapons

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The New York Times published material stating that after the start of the Russian operation aviation on the territory of Syria from the command of opposition groups began to receive reports on the supply of larger batches of American arms, in particular, anti-tank weapons.



“We receive what we ask for in a short time,” one of the RIA reports "News".

It is also noted that the first deliveries of TOW anti-tank missile systems took place back in 2013 during the secret program of Saudi Arabia, the United States and allied countries. The rebels themselves say that in 2013, the Saudi authorities bought more than 13 thousands of weapons from the United States. And the CIA is responsible for the operation, not the Pentagon, which last week curtailed a program of combat training for Syrian opposition members. At the moment, arms shipments have increased significantly.

“We can get as much as we need and when we need it.” You just need to specify the required number, ”said a representative of one of the groupings, assuming that the main reason for this is intervention in the Russian conflict.

According to the publication, in the near future, the Syrian conflict could turn into a mediated war between the United States and the Russian Federation.

The material also emphasizes that the Syrian opposition members need anti-aircraft weapons to fight government and Russian aviation. In particular, they transmitted a similar request ten days ago through the operations center in Turkey, but for the time being, Washington fears that weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists.
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  1. +46
    14 October 2015 06: 47
    Read - ISIS turned to the United States ... And they will deliver, the nannies of terrorism
    1. +31
      14 October 2015 06: 51
      If you put MANPADS, you need to defiantly fill them with a couple of American-style civilian aircraft, and throw the used MANPADS into position.
      1. +31
        14 October 2015 07: 42
        Quote: INVESTOR
        If you put MANPADS, you need to defiantly fill them with a couple of American-style civilian aircraft, and throw the used MANPADS into position.

        Such a direct provocation is the life credo of the USA, the country of self-arrows and provocations. AND we always behave like pupils of the Institute of Noble Maidens in a port tavern - we all hope for their decency. It never was, never will be!

        Sorry, why does the opposition need anti-aircraft weapons? Does ISIS have bombers? Or are "the precepts of Ashton Carter's grandfather" beginning to be put into practice? It is necessary to ask the US directly - whose planes do they want to shoot down with the hands of the "opposition"? To dispel all illusions. "Calibers" are enough for them ...

        Counter proposal - IN THE CASE of the US opposition’s air defense missile systems - to give Assad some tactical nuclear weapons. He will find where to crave them.
        1. +5
          14 October 2015 07: 56
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Sorry, why do the opposition use anti-aircraft weapons?

          Sorry, is there an opposition? laughing
          1. +14
            14 October 2015 08: 11
            Quote: Semyon Semyonich
            Sorry, is there an opposition?

            I do not like the answers to the question, but in this case - it’s exceptionally correct! good

            The opposition in Syria is the same myth as the "guilt" of Bin Laden in world terrorism in general and in the explosion of the towers on September 11 in particular. The same myth as the assassination of Kennedy by the unlucky Oswald. Like Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, the cruiser Maine, the civil war for the liberation of the blacks ... The USA is the country of the Big Shot.

            During perestroika, one of the satirists blurted out that the USSR was creating problems for itself, and then heroically overcoming them. The United States makes money by creating problems for the rest of the world. Tired of this sluggish schizophrenia, lasting from Fulton! Already a war - so a war! One hell - over the Reichstag or over the Capitol Raise the Banner of Victory ....
        2. +8
          14 October 2015 09: 04
          Assad will not crave nuclear fuel anywhere, this is the territory of HIS country, it is necessary to protect it, and not poison it.
          and here is a hint that Strela-S will get into Afghanistan (just in case with a bookmark by date, so that they wouldn’t work after six months or a year) and hto knows how he flies, the chinook is gray-winged, the apache is young.
          1. +4
            14 October 2015 10: 42
            Quote: just explo
            hint that Arrows-S will get to Afghanistan (just in case, with a bookmark by date, so that they wouldn’t work after six months or a year) and hto knows how he flies, the chinook is gray-winged, the Apache is young.

            But this is nishtyak - they are with their own ragged rag to them and according to the hare. good Moderate opposition, I think, if you look, we will find there ...
        3. +3
          14 October 2015 09: 25
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: INVESTOR
          If you put MANPADS, you need to defiantly fill them with a couple of American-style civilian aircraft, and throw the used MANPADS into position.

          Such a direct provocation is the life credo of the USA, the country of self-arrows and provocations. AND we always behave like pupils of the Institute of Noble Maidens in a port tavern - we all hope for their decency. It never was, never will be!

          Sorry, why does the opposition need anti-aircraft weapons? Does ISIS have bombers? Or are "the precepts of Ashton Carter's grandfather" beginning to be put into practice? It is necessary to ask the US directly - whose planes do they want to shoot down with the hands of the "opposition"? To dispel all illusions. "Calibers" are enough for them ...

          Counter proposal - IN THE CASE of the US opposition’s air defense missile systems - to give Assad some tactical nuclear weapons. He will find where to crave them.


          Yes We Rat! To live with wolves howl like a wolf !!!
    2. +22
      14 October 2015 06: 52
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Read - ISIS turned to the United States ... And they will deliver, the nannies of terrorism

      Yes, most likely the striped ones themselves create a fuss that would push the shaitanam pzrk
      1. +11
        14 October 2015 07: 19
        "Mom, we're all crazy." wassat
        Stripes deliver weapons to terrorists while
        Washington fears arms could fall into terrorist hands
    3. +7
      14 October 2015 06: 53
      Quote: sanyadzhan

      Read - ISIS turned to the United States ... And they will deliver, the nannies of terrorism
      Well, everything is "moderate"!
      One has only to fart in the direction of our aviation, we will discard noodles through them. laughing
    4. +7
      14 October 2015 06: 54
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Read - ISIS turned to the United States ... And they will deliver, the nannies of terrorism

      But this we have already passed. We are in Afghanistan aviation-USA-"Stingers" bearded! Although from the high stands, "we are fighting terror."
      1. +5
        14 October 2015 07: 09
        Quote: fa2998
        I think a couple of skyscrapers to demolish by airplanes, we can change our minds

        It is a pity the Pentagon did not get there. But: Carthage ... ugh, Washington must be destroyed.
        1. +3
          14 October 2015 07: 50
          Quote: EvgNik
          It is a pity the Pentagon did not get there.

          So there is no pentagon, but Langley needs to be demolished! And all its branches!
          1. +1
            14 October 2015 11: 28
            There EVERYTHING needs to be demolished. Both the Pentagon and Langley.
        2. 0
          14 October 2015 11: 27
          And reclaimed to its original state.
    5. +10
      14 October 2015 07: 22
      What is stopping Russia from destroying the thrown weapon to the militants together with the terrorists who will come to pick it up, because ours are seen on coin holders where the United States and its allies are dumping the cargo, you just need to wait for those who come for him!
    6. +7
      14 October 2015 07: 38
      According to the publication, in the near future, the Syrian conflict could turn into a mediated war between the United States and the Russian Federation.

      I just thought that in that case Syria would turn into "Vietnam-2"!
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 08: 42
        Quote: Starover_Z
        I just thought that in that case Syria would turn into "Vietnam-2"!

        No, there was an ideological confrontation
    7. +6
      14 October 2015 07: 44
      Americans through Syrian aplasia arm ISIS
    8. +3
      14 October 2015 08: 47
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Read - ISIS turned to the United States ... And they will deliver, the nannies of terrorism

      After all, they will definitely put ... Then wait for the second Vietnam ...
      There will be a lot of trouble ... our pilots have itched their hands for a long time to kick the Yankees' ass and comb their scallops
    9. +2
      14 October 2015 09: 40
      Most likely they won’t. If you would like to have delivered. And so this is tantamount to declaring war on us.
    10. +2
      14 October 2015 09: 43
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Read - ISIS turned to the USA ..


      removed from the language

      Quote: sanyadzhan
      And they’ll deliver, the nannies of terrorism


      it is necessary to capture a sample and prove to the united nations that the igil is supported, introduce a no-fly zone for them as a sanction. And where these anti-aircraft guns will level everything along the perimeter of the kilometer with the ground without making close fire contact.
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 11: 39
        Something life-giving-napalm there or thermobaric kilometers so with 5 ....
  2. +3
    14 October 2015 06: 51
    Afghan situation threatens to recur ...
    1. +8
      14 October 2015 07: 18
      Vietnam, Afghanistan ... everything is as old as the world, history is developing in a spiral. what's next? Syrian pilots with Russian names will bring down the staff? or are they still afraid to go to the lists?
      1. +10
        14 October 2015 07: 49
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Vietnam, Afghanistan ... everything is as old as the world, history is developing in a spiral. what's next? Syrian pilots with Russian names will bring down the staff? or are they still afraid to go to the lists?

        Vietnam was a long time ago, they do not remember it ... Only McCain - and then only Freud will unearth memories. And in Afghanistan, they did not fly. I think the situation will go, like with the “Stingers”. We can only hope that our "commander-in-chief" will find, as VVP put it, "an adequate response to inappropriate actions."

        А Pay attention to how much America's mind diminished from Afgan - then, at least quietly, the Stingers were sent, it was smart enough not to talk about it to the whole world. And now Nuremberg is being lifted from the floor.
  3. +3
    14 October 2015 06: 52
    It is not in vain that consultations are underway with the states - for sure, there will be some kind of agreement on MANPADS, although they will spoil these spoilers in full - such is their soul. Not yourself, so through the Saudis they will begin to deliver. I hope that our options have been calculated, and they will have time to crush the Dushmans before they get anything.
    1. +4
      14 October 2015 07: 57
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      Not themselves, so through the Saudis they will begin to deliver.

      Here, in VO, one from the Donbass wrote that the United States is supplying 12,7mm Barrett M82 to the ukrovok via Bulgaria. And nothing, everyone is silent.

      Let the Yankees deliver what they want and to whom they want! What are they afraid of, or what?!? Only then do we need to remove ALL moral restrictions from ourselves. War is war. We never wanted a war, but we were never afraid to fight. And in the US, probably too few "plastics" come from Iraq and Afgan.
  4. +8
    14 October 2015 06: 56
    I think until the growth of terrorism in the United States flares up, they will support, to put it mildly, the “Opposition.” The United States in any war is doing everything possible and impossible in order to delay its end. America fights not to win, but to fight. It's very simple: the American oligarchy makes money in war.
  5. +4
    14 October 2015 07: 00
    That is, according to the logic (or rather, due to the absence thereof) of the United States, the explosions of the Twin Towers were the work of only oppositionists ?! Then the hell was it to the whole world to declare that they were declaring war on terrorism ?!
  6. +7
    14 October 2015 07: 00
    “We receive what we ask in a short time”

    The bandits openly say that the United States is helping them. No "moderate" should be taken into account when striking.
  7. +2
    14 October 2015 07: 01
    Quote: sanyadzhan
    Read - ISIS turned to the United States ... And they will deliver, the nannies of terrorism

    This option should always be kept in mind. I hope our military have.
  8. +3
    14 October 2015 07: 02
    So after all, they themselves will then receive spelled from "their own". We are not flying there alone. And to distinguish from the ground who is who is very problematic.
    1. +3
      14 October 2015 07: 21
      So after all, they themselves will then receive spelled from "their own". We are not flying there alone. And to distinguish from the ground who is who is problematic ..System: friend or foe, no one has yet canceled. I think during consultations with colleagues from the SGA our solution will be found, for example, we can begin to supply modern man-portable air defense systems to counter NATO’s illegitimate air raids.
    2. +1
      14 October 2015 08: 24
      Americans, British and other Frenchmen act simply - they go in echelons above the MANPADS range. They have a ban on dropping less than 4000 m. Therefore friendly fire is excluded.

      The VKS is actively flying less than 3000m, that is, in the reach of MANPADS. CABs are not so rich, and if MANPADS turn off crocodiles with rooks, then the ladies will feel much better.

      So it is quite possible that they will deliver soon. Perhaps through the Saudis and Turks. Perhaps they will outbid what Eagle Strel in eastern Europe.

      Here, after all, what’s the matter, MANPADS may not be limited. The Babahs once captured Osa from Assad. Understood fired 6 missiles - shot down 4 LA. Since every launch was filmed, losses are identified. That wasp was not destroyed, just rockets ran out. And in Eastern Europe, you can collect a whole brood of Os ... But why go far they are in Jordan, but Ukraine, Poland and Georgia will still pay for their Wasps and send specialists for free to such a thing.

      True, there is already a real risk that they will shoot without understanding who and will fill up Rafal / Tornado for the company.
      1. +1
        14 October 2015 10: 00
        Against these Os and MANPADS, we have electronic warfare on helicopters and bombers.
        1. +3
          14 October 2015 10: 52
          Even Lipa is not on Crocodiles ... Only heat traps.
  9. +4
    14 October 2015 07: 03
    U.S. anti-aircraft guns are only supplied with Russian bombs KOB-500.
    Take the kit, gentlemen, terrorists? laughing
  10. +6
    14 October 2015 07: 05
    That is why the CIA is in charge of this issue, and anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles will be put, it is time to officially declare a no-fly zone over Syria, the goal is obvious until the territory of Syria is liberated to make the war "long" and harm as much as possible Russia, here not only weapons will be sure to help in the recruitment of militants and new training centers around the world (including in Europe), participation in the territories and special forces controlled by the militants is quite possible, it seems now, as in the 1941-1945 war, all forces will be thrown on one front - the Syrian
  11. +3
    14 October 2015 07: 12
    "however, while Washington fears that weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists"
    Yes, not what they are not afraid of, they are just looking for delivery methods through intermediaries so that they do not shine once again, otherwise they are already lit up to the full - a vile gangster state, in a word, the world stronghold of terrorism
  12. +4
    14 October 2015 07: 12
    It’s just not clear what cynicism whales can reach. Put MANPADS - it will be necessary to organize the interception of transportation, take into account in the planning of operations, etc. Who would be there to throw something homing in Afghanistan? And help the Taliban in the war of liberation? I understand that stupidity, but so suddenly I wanted to!
  13. +6
    14 October 2015 07: 14
    That's the whole answer. lol
  14. +4
    14 October 2015 07: 21
    task number 1: to close possible routes and points of delivery of weapons to IS militants and other terrorist formations of the "moderate opposition", primarily the border with Turkey, work for intelligence and special forces, Iran is aware ...
  15. +4
    14 October 2015 07: 21
    moderate head cutters
  16. +3
    14 October 2015 07: 22
    If the Americans do this, then they will be the last draki. Since the events in that region showed that any weapon, the American is no exception, very quickly migrates from one owner to another. And air defense systems, may well be used not only against Russian aviation, but also against American. The question is how much do they need it? The answer is probably soon to find out ...
  17. +3
    14 October 2015 07: 22
    nothing new. But one thing is interesting ... when finally the American soldiers begin to die from our weapons? For example ... Americans fly over Syria ... we supply it with air defense ... and they shoot down their planes. Or should we not do that?
  18. +3
    14 October 2015 07: 24
    Are they not afraid that civilian planes will begin to fall in Ben Gurion?
  19. +2
    14 October 2015 07: 26
    That's all ... Now it is clear to everyone who the moderate Syrian opposition is.
  20. +1
    14 October 2015 07: 27
    Whose planes will shoot down these "moderate positioners" guess twice.
  21. +2
    14 October 2015 07: 45
    This is a dangerous business. You can start supplying air defense to Emen, to Afghanistan.
    1. +2
      14 October 2015 08: 36
      Even Mansur is dangerous in Afghanistan - he threatens to conquer Tajikistan there, after defeating the local collaborators (the Kabul government) and the invaders.

      Another option is Khorasan, which was washed down by the brother of Mula Omar - but this is the Caliphate with the traveling baboons who want to crush the whole of Central Asia.

      Iran is trying to help in Yemen, but there is a big problem. Naval blockade by the forces of the Navy of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and Pakistan. And the Americans are hanging out with reconnaissance ships there, merging coalitions with data on suspicious ships so that they fly on board. Even the small schooners coming from Sudan no longer pass. Large ports are broken, the Hussites have only small marinas. In general, abandoning weapons is the main and key problem.
  22. +1
    14 October 2015 07: 57
    Well, how can poor cannibals help the poor? The whole world needs to chip in and throw off what they do not mind. The United States will throw off weapons and Russia will not stand aside and will throw off weapons. Highly accurate.
  23. NDA
    +1
    14 October 2015 08: 04
    Sooner or later, this was to happen ... but how will it go on?
  24. -2
    14 October 2015 08: 34
    Syria is doomed. Our sworn "partners" will not allow Assad to win, in any case, even in spite of Russia's help. If suddenly, with the help of Iran, Assad begins to win, the Saudis and Americans will immediately intervene in the war, and then the EU. Even if this does not happen, they also have a plan "C" - "peacefully", at all kinds of conferences to dismember Syria and create a "Kurdish" "corridor" for Qatari gas to Europe. Alas, Syria became doomed after the monstrous mistake of our foreign ministry headed by M, which allowed the "international coalition" to destroy the regime in Libya.
    1. +3
      14 October 2015 12: 13
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Syria is doomed.

      Is not a fact
    2. +3
      14 October 2015 12: 13
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Syria is doomed.

      Is not a fact
    3. +1
      14 October 2015 14: 02
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      If suddenly, Assad, with the help of Iran, begins to win, then the Saudis and Americans will intervene in the war, and then the EU

      The United States and the Saudis are already de facto fighting. But they cannot send land forces, the Saudis are stuck in Yemen, the Americans simply have no free forces. The most dangerous are the open borders and the endless number of mercenaries that can be transferred to Syria for the American and saudi money.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Even if this does not happen, they also have a plan "C" - "peacefully", at all kinds of conferences to dismember Syria and create a "Kurdish" "corridor" for Qatari gas to Europe

      In general, we can agree that the situation in Syria is critical, now its division into 3 parts is the only way out for Assad. The "Kurdish corridor" for gas is unrealistic, there it will be necessary either to finish off ISIS, or to negotiate with the Shiite government of Iraq, and most likely to do and both. Plus an independent Kurdistan is a time bomb for Turkey. In any case, there is no other way out for Assad.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Alas, Syria became doomed after the monstrous mistake of our foreign ministry headed by M, which allowed the "international coalition" to destroy the regime in Libya.

      There and in Syria, enough mistakes were made (that is, "curtsey" towards the Western "partners") in the period 2011-2013.
  25. +2
    14 October 2015 08: 34
    So the Americans openly admit that they themselves do not know who commands the very opposition, and where it is located. Then who turns to them? It turns out that you can easily tinkle at the Pentagon, the CIA (or immediately into the Oval Office, if officials have blunted), introduce yourself as a great commander who honors democratic values, and trample military-technical assistance?
  26. +3
    14 October 2015 08: 55
    ISIS do not fly on airplanes, whose planes will they shoot down? And like everyone has one enemy ISIS. US cynicism and arrogance go wild
  27. 0
    14 October 2015 08: 56
    All this testifies to only one thing - the goals of the "moderate Syrian opposition", America and ISIS at this stage coincide. This is the overthrow of the Assad regime, nothing more!
  28. +1
    14 October 2015 09: 07
    For every suzuka we will find our own bazooka!
  29. +1
    14 October 2015 09: 11
    Where did the hundred "Eagles" migrate from the Lvov province?
    1. +1
      14 October 2015 10: 03
      Someone sold them, and from someone they are still hidden at home.
  30. +1
    14 October 2015 09: 15
    Quote: rotmistr60
    The bandits openly say that the United States is helping them. No "moderate" should be taken into account when striking.

    On the contrary! Queue first! Or let out of turn (ammunition to choose the VKS and the Russian Navy)!
  31. +1
    14 October 2015 10: 11
    "... the Syrian opposition needs anti-aircraft weapons to fight government and Russian aviation."

    Would you like the Patriot and Stinger to join your ranks? Cards in hand ... "Patriot" and not hide and have control over him, but with the "stinger" s, I hope, we will also figure it out.
  32. 0
    14 October 2015 10: 21
    from the command of the opposition groups began to receive reports on the supply of larger batches of American arms

    The US has already supplied weapons to Afghanistan, so much so that it’s impossible to find any ends
    The U.S. Department of Defense cannot determine in whose hands the arms delivered to Afghanistan fell, RIA Novosti reports citing the report of the Special Inspector for Afghanistan Reconstruction Projects John Sopko.
    “We are very concerned that the weapons that the US taxpayers paid for could be in the hands of the rebels and used to kill American and Afghan military and civilians,” the report said.
    According to Sopko's report, it’s difficult to track the exact amount of weapons, since the Pentagon’s data are unreliable. The United States sent at least 465 small arms to Afghanistan.

    http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/1217327
  33. +1
    14 October 2015 10: 33
    In particular, they (the "Syrian oppositionists") transmitted a similar request ten days ago through an operational center in Turkey, but while Washington fears that the weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists.

    When it was Washington and its accomplices in the Arab monarchies who were afraid to supply the gangs of jihadist terrorists created by them with weapons to fight Russia, including the "Stingers" supplied in Afghanistan! So in the near future ISIS and other jihadist and "moderate" gangs fighting in Syria will have MANPADS!
  34. +1
    14 October 2015 10: 40
    "... the Syrian opposition needs anti-aircraft weapons to fight government and Russian aviation."
    We’ll figure it out somehow, they haven’t seen adult toys there yet, like the Tu-160. Another question is, who knows whose hollowed-out hands will fall into the mattress mat and where they will plant it. And if in civilian terms, in Turkey, for example, you don’t get to our Buk there, then what? Or they achieve this. Interestingly, mattresses were taught in childhood that matches are not a toy for children ...
  35. +1
    14 October 2015 11: 39
    I think that sooner or later the spooks will have the spooks. If there was a demand, there would be a supply. I would not be surprised if there were also combat crews of the ublyu.kov from the Square "suddenly" appearing.
  36. +1
    14 October 2015 12: 11
    Terrorists appealed to the United States to deliver rockets in order to bring down Russian and American planes
  37. GDV
    0
    14 October 2015 23: 09
    It is necessary so, the first stinger took off, followed by oil terminals and not only in Syria but also in Libya.