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I do not want to be a general!

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I registered on the “Military Review” website this summer. At first I just read it. Then fascinated, interesting articles, statements and comments. It is felt that on the site adult men with experience in life and in military affairs participate in discussions. Of course, not everyone is currently military, but military service is for sure.


At first, everything was perceived as a simple game, to gain pluses, to get another “title”. Subsequently began to pay more attention to the content of the comments on the articles. I noticed that there are wise and business proposals, and there are just emissions with an eye to getting a plus sign.

Marshals added, and the quality of comments falls.

As far as I understand, let this be a game, but you need to play in this case honestly! And if you received a high “rank”, then your comments, and maybe suggestions, should correspond to your status on the topwar website? And the further you “grow”, the more responsibly you have to approach the content of your statements and comments. It should not be emissions like “death to the fascists,” as I wrote in my article, I don’t remember which of the users, or the indignation that they grabbed a plus sign, and even more so the mat or a hint of it.

Today I have the status of a “colonel”, and, as it were, with experience, but I feel I don’t want to be a general. And even more so marshal. I am not a military man, not an analyst, and the “title” of a colonel suits me perfectly, that is, I can afford to put in a cheerful smiley face and laugh heartily. Without risking to be condemned by some "marshals" who are not marshals at all, but lovers of rattling about something, and some of them have a place on a talk show with Andrey Malakhov and others. Let them discuss the color of the next star's panties!

And what about one discussion of “marshals” and “generals” topics: “Like in the old days: they would be hit by“ Stingers? ”I was just outraged by how site users were discussing ways to destroy our VKS base in Syria throughout the day. And the bulk of truly “literate ways” was expressed precisely by “carriers of high command marks.” And on 100% sure, our common enemies will certainly use these “tips” in Syria.

Well and further, I write especially literate comments with details, I don’t have time for references to articles and facts, but I try to be aware of the main political and military events.

For the reasons stated above, I would prefer to remain in the “officer corps”, and since there is no other way to remain in the so-called “golden middle” (and sometimes you want to express your point of view), you, the users of the site, if not against it, put a minus for article, I will be very grateful to you, otherwise there is not much left to the “general”.

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  1. apro
    apro 15 October 2015 04: 59 New
    +4
    I really want the icon- to appear? So I want to put some, you write.
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 15 October 2015 06: 30 New
      15
      And I am 100% sure that our common enemies will certainly take advantage of these “tips” in Syria.

      Well, why only enemies. Defining the direction of potential threats for the defenders is also not superfluous.
      Suppose that the next wise advice on how to attack a military base was noted by both the attacker and the defending side. What will happen if the attackers want to use it. And there will be an ambush and cruel defeat for them. Or I'm wrong.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 15 October 2015 09: 02 New
        11
        Quote: Mahmut
        And I am 100% sure that our common enemies will certainly take advantage of these “tips” in Syria.

        but I’m not sure that the terrorists from Syria are tracking the comments on the Military Review website. with all due respect to the site
        1. tomket
          tomket 15 October 2015 09: 20 New
          11
          Quote: Lukich
          that Syrian terrorists are tracking comments on the Military Review website. with all due respect to the site

          Aha.Gapisal someone about the "Stingers" on the VO, and the terrorists read it and beat themselves on the forehead with their fists. How could we not have thought of this before !! Call Obama and send a thousand "Stingers" for dinner!
          1. Manul
            Manul 15 October 2015 09: 52 New
            +7
            Quote: tomket
            Aha.Gapisal someone about the "Stingers" on the VO, and the terrorists read it and beat themselves on the forehead with their fists. How could we not have thought of this before !! Call Obama and send a thousand "Stingers" for dinner!

            winked As the bearded man imagined tearing curls from frustration, so laughter made out laughing .
            The author should have limited himself to the literary-rating aspect; he was in vain drawn to state security. Of course, comments are always visible for the sake of pluses, but we have a very serious resource for the administration for this - they will squeeze anyone, despite past merits.
            And also - I turn to the author, we have the opportunity to file a complaint. If you think that a person has crossed the line of good and evil, you can slander him. I used this function myself because, like you, it depends on us how much the site will be good. And I have jumps and mistakes. I received warnings from administrators, but I try to analyze and make my comments better. And the advantages for the title are not an end in itself - this is the comment rating. Perhaps we can turn your message into a favor only in one way (it is unlikely that the plusophiles will stop writing for the sake of ranks, and do not forget, there are trolls with us who also work for the rank - how do you define them?) - ask the administration not to take into account the advantages provocative comments. But the sacred question arises - who will determine the quality criterion? So what can leave everything as it is?
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 15 October 2015 09: 21 New
          +8
          you, users of the site, if you don’t mind, put a minus for the article, I will be very grateful to you, otherwise there is not much left for the “general”.

          Dear author, to your regret, as written below your article -
          (From VO editorial. Article rating does not affect the author’s rating.)
          ,
          So these disadvantages will not help you. And if you really would like to get more minuses, then put the flag in your hands - write something in support of the USA or the Islamic State, and a shaft of minuses is provided to you. So you seem to be a little cunning.
          I apologize in advance for directness.
          1. kayman4
            kayman4 15 October 2015 10: 48 New
            +2
            Interested in how many of those discussing have real data on the base defense device on hand? To build any normal plans without at least partially opening the defense system (at all levels) is nonsense.
        3. Altona
          Altona 15 October 2015 11: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: Lukich
          but I’m not sure that the terrorists from Syria are tracking the comments on the Military Review website. with all due respect to the site

          -------------------
          Ukrainians read so 100% ... Russian after all ... laughing
        4. woron333444
          woron333444 15 October 2015 16: 12 New
          +1
          Yes, and the General Staff will not read.
  2. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin 15 October 2015 05: 08 New
    30
    I agree with the author one hundred percent! The fact is that "VO" has created virtual value - army ranks - and many, in order to get them, say nonsense, and as much as possible! Even evaluating the articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article, but highlighting individual phrases, taking them out of context, begin to judge and put pros or cons.
    1. venaya
      venaya 15 October 2015 05: 33 New
      20
      Quote: Ivan Slav
      Even evaluating the articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article, but highlighting individual phrases, taking it out of context, begin to judge and put pros or cons.

      How I personally experience it. As soon as a comment essentially requires thinking, endless minuses immediately fly. So I want to ask the commenters: Do you really not want to think? At least somehow explain your position.
      1. Rav075
        Rav075 15 October 2015 05: 52 New
        19
        I completely agree! You express your own opinion on an article or a discussed issue, and instead of a discussion you get "-". You try to explain further, and then .... ATU HIS, ATU !!! After that, there is no desire to comment on anything for several days. request
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 09 New
        +9
        Quote: venaya

        How I personally experience it. As soon as a comment essentially requires thinking, endless minuses immediately fly.

        Dear, someone who, and you sculpt minuses to all who are not hitting. Because you do not complain. As I understand it, take revenge on easy wink
        1. venaya
          venaya 15 October 2015 06: 37 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          and you sculpt minuses to all who are not hitting. Therefore, you do not complain.

          Talentedly! It is important to blame, and then even though the grass does not grow. sad
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 56 New
            +4
            Quote: venaya

            Talentedly! It is important to blame, and then even though the grass does not grow.

            Yes, no, without talent, I just looked at who and to whom and how many minuses I posted in the topic and just wink
            1. Bekas1967
              Bekas1967 15 October 2015 08: 47 New
              0
              And there’s nothing to look at others, you have to watch yourself ..
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 15 October 2015 19: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Bekas1967
                And there’s nothing to look at others, you have to watch yourself ..

                Dear, you are wrong. "Alexander Romanov" is a moderator, so he has access to almost all the information on the site, well, very different statistics on readers too, as well as the means of influencing the reader.
                To understand who you are having a conversation with, click the mouse or something called "Alexander Romanov" or another "name" and you will get a brief information about the reader.
            2. My address
              My address 15 October 2015 20: 19 New
              +1
              Citizens!
              Companions!

              I dislike Romanov because of his stubborn faith in GDP. But one must be objective, he: does not lie; does not mess; far from ddurrakk.

              And, most importantly, according to the article - why did they stick to a statement about ways to screw up Russia and that this should not be done? After all, the main point of the article is that the so-called. the generals in the majority do not pull on the generals. I even had in one note a request to assign me two gaps, two stars, which I achieved in civilian life, in order to show off from what was achieved, but actually achieved. Didn't seal it. And the fact that many have earned a lot of pluses with worthless but positive comments, where is it? And the disgusting literacy of some of the "generals", which even shocks me, a C-student in Russian?

              I consider it necessary to change some of the rules of the site. And that's fine.
          2. Buffalo
            Buffalo 15 October 2015 08: 23 New
            +8
            What is, that is, Sasha!
            I remembered one bike.
            On a market day, in the town square, some stranger publicly announced that Vasily’s father has two daughters and both are whores.
            People silently listened to the stranger, taken aback by the news.
            But, one idle man, suddenly remembering, went up to the slanderer and said to his face:
            - Father Vasily has no daughters! He has two sons and both are quiet guys!
            To which the slanderer answered him:
            - And now, let him now try to wash himself!
          3. andj61
            andj61 15 October 2015 09: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: venaya
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            and you sculpt minuses to all who are not hitting. Therefore, you do not complain.

            Talentedly! It is important to blame, and then even though the grass does not grow. sad

            Alexander Romanov is a moderator, and he can simply and easily check who you have set up cons! yes
            So you are clearly cunning - there is no reason not to believe Romanov. request
            1. ava09
              ava09 15 October 2015 10: 03 New
              +6
              Quote: andj61
              there is no reason not to believe Romanov


              Not about trust in Romanov, but about trust in general. Any position and access to information does not guarantee the objectivity of the holder.
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 25 New
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As I understand it, avenge easy

          I noticed that if I answered the minus one, even warning that I myself did not minus, then for a few days you get minuses for any comments. Revenge does not paint.
          1. Bekas1967
            Bekas1967 15 October 2015 08: 48 New
            +3
            Fate of the weak ... and the vain, of which there are many ..
            1. Turkir
              Turkir 15 October 2015 09: 58 New
              +5
              I join your opinion.
              That there is only annoying comments about - "the caravan is coming", "a lot of bukaff" and just pictures that "fit" articles on completely different topics.
        3. vladimir_krm
          vladimir_krm 15 October 2015 08: 39 New
          +7
          And what - anyone can find out who puts the cons to him?

          However, it doesn't matter: they have the right. As for the article, as I was a biennial senior, I stayed with them. This is mine, honestly deserved. And the "general" rank does not play any role here. Well, the admins made a rating like this, original. It's funny, thanks. But not more. Not children to chase or refuse.
          1. andj61
            andj61 15 October 2015 09: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: vladimir_krm
            And what - anyone can find out who puts the cons to him?

            It used to be, now only moderators can find out.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 14: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: andj61
              It used to be

              Something I do not remember when it was? winked
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 15 October 2015 20: 01 New
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Quote: andj61
                It used to be

                Something I do not remember when it was? winked

                Believe me, it was like that.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 20: 43 New
                  0
                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  Believe me, it was like that.

                  I rarely accept on faith. wink You and I are at about the same time at VO, but I don’t remember when it was possible to see a minuscule to a mere mortal. To the moderator, yes, but I have not seen the authors of any pluses or minuses.
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 15 October 2015 09: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: venaya
        Don't you really want to think? At least somehow explain your position.

        totally agree with you. put a minus - justify
        1. Manul
          Manul 15 October 2015 09: 59 New
          +6
          Quote: Lukich

          totally agree with you. put a minus - justify

          This does not always work out. If everyone will justify the minus, we will have ten pages of comments on a regular article, and thirty on a top one.
      4. marlin1203
        marlin1203 15 October 2015 10: 14 New
        +7
        Yeah ... I caught 64 minuses here the other day, and when I try to establish the reasons for the misunderstanding, there are as many more! Nothing - Alive laughing
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 15 October 2015 10: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: marlin1203
          Yeah ... I caught 64 minuses here the other day, and when I try to establish the reasons for the misunderstanding, there are as many more! Nothing - Alive laughing


          my anti-record is 116 minuses - I felt like a real liberal laughing
          It happens that the herd instinct just works .. And the rest is a normal site (Sanya fix) a responsible team, a community of interests, and that bribes 90 percent if they served the Motherland in uniform no more
          1. ava09
            ava09 15 October 2015 11: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            And the rest is a normal site (Sanya fix)


            )))))))))PRETTY BOY -))))))))))
          2. atalef
            atalef 15 October 2015 12: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Quote: marlin1203
            Yeah ... I caught 64 minuses here the other day, and when I try to establish the reasons for the misunderstanding, there are as many more! Nothing - Alive laughing


            my anti-record is 116 minuses - I felt like a real liberal laughing
            It happens that the herd instinct just works .. And the rest is a normal site (Sanya fix) a responsible team, a community of interests, and that bribes 90 percent if they served the Motherland in uniform no more

            116
      5. alicante11
        alicante11 15 October 2015 11: 11 New
        +6
        As soon as a comment essentially requires thinking, endless minuses immediately fly


        Well, on my own I can say that I almost do not minus the comments that I answer. Because it means there is a rational thought, albeit controversial from my point of view. And the interlocutor, even with opposing views, must be respected. And if a stupid or very arrogant comment can be answered only by going to the person, then there is no sense in substituting a warning or ban, it’s better to put a minus sign. Also, if comments have already been commented on in a style with which I agree, I don’t feel like repeating myself somehow. Therefore, minus (and plus for the comment with which I agree) is the best option.
        1. Manul
          Manul 15 October 2015 20: 51 New
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          And if a stupid or very arrogant comment can be answered only by going to the person, then there is no sense in substituting a warning or ban, it’s better to put a minus sign.

          Brilliant. On this thread (thanks to the author)) there are already so many unique phrases, I don’t have time to enter them in the quote box.
      6. Altona
        Altona 15 October 2015 11: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: venaya
        How I personally experience it. As soon as a comment essentially requires thinking, endless minuses immediately fly. So I want to ask the commenters: Do you really not want to think? At least somehow explain your position.

        -----------------
        There is always a category of "quiet avengers" who will put a "minus" just like that, so don't bother ... This is ce la vie ... laughing
      7. Karabanov
        Karabanov 15 October 2015 16: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: venaya
        How I personally experience it. As soon as a comment essentially requires thinking, endless minuses immediately fly. So I want to ask the commenters: Do you really not want to think? At least somehow explain your position.

        Perhaps I will speak out too ... You know, the VO site is not the most "advanced" in terms of real estimates, forecasts, analytics of certain aspects. Stupid shkolota and various sofa marshals abound here.
        Like everywhere, who wants to curry favor and grab stars there are several simple solutions:
        1) You need to submit your comment as high as possible on the thread (preferably first), the higher the more likely it is to be read (quality is not the most important point). After all, many people simply do not watch all the comments, and laziness ...
        2) The reading individual pays attention to the status of the commentator - title, flag, and the number of pluses.
        Herd feeling is triggered here. Many advantages - I’ll add. Nenuacho, am I dumber than others?
        If "marshal" means supposedly - special. Fuini won't say ...
        The flag is, say, Israeli or Lithuanian, then the stopudovo squabble has fuzzed ... They read it already biased.
        3) More comments should be added to the comment. Like - to the Nazis death, the mattresses are stupid ... Well, or at worst put a photo of a tricolor or a smug Putin.
        This is a kind of competition for not self-sufficient and not distant comrades. And the most interesting thing is that they do not climb really serious sites where techies, engineers, real generals and other specialists are present, shkolota and plus collectors. Nobody will listen to them there. And here..
        In general, I agree with you, the quality of comments is steadily declining. Sensibly and essentially quite a few statements. If you talk about topical issues, moreover, those who have been suffering by you, they begin to accuse of plagiarism or, like, did you even serve? Many people like not to take off their pink glasses and live in a virtual machine. There is a fashion for patriotism today (for this expression I mercilessly zaminusut).
        Unfortunately, it must be admitted that nothing will change from this anyway, whether we want it or not. So I recommend really curious and thoughtful companions, among the present slag, to select more sober and adequate comments. Although they are in the minority, they are also present.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 15 October 2015 05: 49 New
      +5
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      many, not understanding the essence of the article, but singling out individual phrases, taking them out of context, begin to judge and put pros or cons

      Have you noticed? If the article is long enough, comments like "Too many beeches" appear. And there are much fewer comments to these articles than to informational messages of 15-30 lines.
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 15 October 2015 09: 49 New
        +3
        Simple and understandable - just understandable and everyone is interested in discussing it. But difficult is difficult for perception and therefore people are lost and silent. About this, Cyril Parkinson wrote, having studied the functioning mechanism of British institutions for another 30-40s. hi
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      Even evaluating articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article,

      Firstly, percent of 90, they read only the headline and the maximum is the last paragraph.
      And secondly, things will change soon hi
      1. atalef
        atalef 15 October 2015 06: 26 New
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
        Even evaluating articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article,

        Firstly, percent of 90, they read only the headline and the maximum is the last paragraph.
        And secondly, things will change soon hi

        Title and first 5 comments to understand where and where the wind is blowing.
        1. Bekas1967
          Bekas1967 15 October 2015 08: 53 New
          +9
          The wind is blowing on the mill of hurray-patriotism. "We will tear everyone up and take away (here recently one wanted to blow a Ukrainian official)" - so many advantages were picked up)))
      2. Lukich
        Lukich 15 October 2015 09: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And secondly, things will change soon

        how? new site concept?
      3. andj61
        andj61 15 October 2015 09: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
        Even evaluating articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article,

        Firstly, percent of 90, they read only the headline and the maximum is the last paragraph.
        And secondly, things will change soon hi

        Alexander, and you will not open this veil of mystery about changes? winked
        Over the past year, all these issues have been repeatedly discussed, there were many proposals to change the system of "titles" or their cancellation, but nothing was changed. It is clear that the possibility of chasing "titles" introduces a certain element of the game, and many are addicted to it. And more visitors to the site - more deductions from advertising, more "benefits" for administrators. But I would still like to find out, and maybe - what the hell is not kidding and the moderators will give such an opportunity - to discuss the changes. The decision will still be made not on the basis of a vote. soldier
      4. Manul
        Manul 15 October 2015 10: 00 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        And secondly, things will change soon

        belay All will be demoted ...
        1. Buffalo
          Buffalo 15 October 2015 10: 22 New
          +4
          Nah, everyone will be awarded the title of Marshal, so that there is no envy and inequality on the site. laughing
          1. ava09
            ava09 15 October 2015 11: 13 New
            +5
            Quote: Bison
            Nah, everyone will be awarded the title of Marshal, so that there is no envy and inequality on the site.


            I will not be surprised if I find out that someone from the "high-ranking" stars, "granted" on the site, washes. -))))) Guys, this is a VIRTUAL reality. In life, your own MIND is important and it does not even depend on the real army rank, and even on the "Internet" and even more so ...
            1. perm23
              perm23 15 October 2015 11: 50 New
              0
              Totally agree with you.
            2. Manul
              Manul 15 October 2015 11: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: ava09
              I will not be surprised if I find out that someone from the "high-ranking" stars, "granted" on the site, washes. -))))) Guys, this is a VIRTUAL reality. In life, your own MIND is important and it does not even depend on the real army rank, and even on the "Internet" and even more so ...

              We are washing good news here. drinks And new good acquaintances. And stars. Do you feel sorry for our liver?
          2. Scraptor
            Scraptor 15 October 2015 20: 55 New
            +1
            Introduce buttonholes lol
      5. vsoltan
        vsoltan 15 October 2015 10: 46 New
        +3
        For a long time and repeatedly and many raised the issues of changing the structure of the forum .... Waiting for ...
      6. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 15 October 2015 19: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Firstly, percent of 90, they read only the headline and the maximum is the last paragraph.
        And secondly, things will change soon

        1. I suggest not to put minuses on comments. If someone doesn’t like it, just let his rating not increase.
        2. I also propose to expand the boundaries of increasing the rating. If I liked, for example, 10 comments of one reader, then I would like to put my own "+" on each comment (that is, a total of 10 pluses), but only one for one comment.
        3. It would not be bad for plus and minus if it remains, to provide the reader with a choice of the parameter by which he evaluates the comment. And the moderators should monitor the correspondence of the chosen parameter and the content of the comment, well, the removal of this plus or minus, if the reader just takes revenge. I myself, for example, am also sinful by this.
        4. And I suggest stricter with violations of the rules - for example, the word "crest" in the rules is not allowed to write, but it is often used.
        5.If the comment does not correspond to the rules, then the message "comment deleted" is usually displayed. I suggest: delete the comment, but give the reader the opportunity to correct his comment and restore it after checking. Sometimes it is enough to correct one word.
    4. atalef
      atalef 15 October 2015 06: 16 New
      30
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      The fact is that "VO" has created virtual value - army ranks - and many, in order to get them, say nonsense, and as much as possible!

      it’s enough 100 to scream while shouting, to quote Bismarck’s fictitious quote, not to forget more electronic warfare, and of course to walk along the 5-th column and the Jews.
      And that's it, you're a marshall.
      Of course, I understand that in general (+) and (-) is a cut of both level and mood.
      This is a given and this can be applied both with humor and with regret.
      But this fact and in general would not play any role if the skulls did not give a restriction in the comments.
      Many perceive the title - as if it is something that they are standing in this world and an addition to unrealized toys in war games.
      Well, the same is good. As they say, no matter what the child is amusing - if only not with his hands.
      The problem is that people who do not have any knowledge, understanding, or anything that can not reach high ranks and the possibility of influence-- except Uryayay and drafts are bald.
      It would be nice if the site had the option (for those who wish) to refuse the rating and remain an ordinary (or ensign wink )
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Of course, I understand that in general (+) and (-) is a cut of both level and mood.

        Catch a plus, before you are driven into the skull laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 15 October 2015 06: 25 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          Of course, I understand that in general (+) and (-) is a cut of both level and mood.

          Catch a plus, before you are driven into the skull laughing

          Hi Sanya.
          Drive - but as they say in Africa
          - If rape cannot be avoided, relax and try to have fun laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            - If rape cannot be avoided, relax and try to have fun

            I already gave you the garters wink
            Zionists are healthy laughing
          2. Buffalo
            Buffalo 15 October 2015 10: 28 New
            +3
            Liznul?
            Deflection counted!
            Careful, with this - you can completely lick it.
          3. lelikas
            lelikas 15 October 2015 11: 49 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Drive - but as they say in Africa

            The State Department from the next article will defend! :)
        2. domokl
          domokl 15 October 2015 06: 35 New
          +8
          Pulled in the belly. He rubbed his epaulettes with an asidol ... Now it seems like a real one.
          The conversation about general uniforms has been going on for years. And about the quality of comments too. And things are still there now. Therefore, I agree with the author. There can be no general from the comments. And there cannot be a general without agreement with other generals or marshals.
          But I also think about ensigns. Why not? Necessary, even necessary people. Legs and hands of the army, and of such sites. You need to think about it.
          Sanya, hi! hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 54 New
            +9
            Quote: domokl
            And there cannot be a general without agreement with other generals or marshals.

            Sanya, you propose creating a commission for admission to the generals and marshals. So this is corruption on the site. There will be bribes to offer, and if they start to give a lot, I don’t get tired wassat
            1. EvgNik
              EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Will offer bribes

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              create a commission for admission to generals and marshals

              Thanks, laughed.
              1. Scraptor
                Scraptor 15 October 2015 21: 11 New
                0
                Accepted into the generalissimo ... I want a gray generalissimo. laughing laughing laughing
                I lured a number of salesmen on the site to stupidly shit on the Yaki-38/141 and glamorously praise the glamorous F-35, but it's good that at least the "anniversary of the end of the Poltava confrontation" is not soon ...
          2. Colonel
            Colonel 15 October 2015 09: 40 New
            10
            Quote: domokl
            Army legs and arms

            Like, will I go to service while my hands are on? wink
            Warrant officers, do not be offended by the barracks humor. Folklore all the same. In revenge about the officers:
            lieutenant - does not know anything;
            Art. lieutenant - knows something;
            captain - knows everything;
            major - forgot something;
            lieutenant colonel - remembers something;
            Colonel - knows where to sign;
            General - remembers how to sign.
            But seriously, in my opinion, for those who wore real epaulettes for at least a few years, all the dances with virtual shoulder marks on the drum.
            For atalefa - you know, again, in my opinion, no one on the site received a skull in vain. From time to time I give you minuses, but also pluses too. And your virtual rank is higher than mine. Of course, there are questions about the "mechanism" of the site. But not enough to inflate the problem out of it.
            Someone from the ancients said: "I did everything I could. Who can do better." It seems to me in the subject.
          3. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 15 October 2015 10: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: domokl
            But I also think about ensigns. Why not? Necessary, even necessary people. Legs and hands of the army, and of such sites. You need to think about it.
            Sanya, hi!
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            All with the Ukrainian flag, regardless of rank - immediately to the warrant officers, part of the supply managers to the site to employ ... laughing
            1. atalef
              atalef 15 October 2015 13: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Quote: domokl
              But I also think about ensigns. Why not? Necessary, even necessary people. Legs and hands of the army, and of such sites. You need to think about it.
              Sanya, hi!
              Reply Quote Report Abuse


              All with the Ukrainian flag, regardless of rank - immediately to the warrant officers, part of the supply managers to the site to employ ... laughing

              Well, yes, a crest without a line that ....- who served continued knows
      2. venaya
        venaya 15 October 2015 06: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        ... and of course walk along the 5th column and the Jews. And that's it, you're a marshall.

        I understand your problems, but my experience also shows that if you try to praise Russia or the peoples inhabiting it, then often an inexplicable reaction also arises. However, let me remind you: this is the site of the "Military Review" of the Russian Federation, and not at all foreign. There are many peoples in the world, let them read, comment, but the praise of foreigners should naturally be surprising, perhaps you just need to be a little more modest.
        1. Bekas1967
          Bekas1967 15 October 2015 09: 02 New
          0
          The truly valuable and great does not require praise, it speaks for itself. There is no reason to shout at every corner about "The Greatness of Russia", everyone in the whole world understands this. It is also clear that the Jews, let's say, are not the last people on this planet ..
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 October 2015 11: 27 New
            +2
            The truly valuable and great does not require praise, it speaks for itself. There is no reason to shout at every corner about the "Greatness of Russia",


            There is no need to shout, but letting the Motherland be trampled into the mud is also not an option. Truth and objectivity rules. As there in the midshipmen was "life to the Motherland, honor to anyone."
            1. Buffalo
              Buffalo 15 October 2015 11: 40 New
              +8
              This is not one of the Midshipmen.
              This is the "Code of the Russian officer". Compiled by Valentin Kulchitsky, 1904


              “Code of Honor of a Russian Officer”

              1. Do not promise if you are not sure that you will fulfill the promise.

              2. Keep yourself simple, with dignity, without fatigue.

              3. It is necessary to remember that border where politeness full of dignity ends and cringing begins.

              4. Do not write rash letters and reports rashly.

              5. Be less frank - you will regret it. Remember: my tongue is my enemy!

              6. Do not cut it - you can’t prove daring, but you’ll compromise yourself.

              7. Do not rush to get on a short foot with a person whom you have not recognized enough.

              8. Avoid cash accounts with friends. Money always spoils relationships.

              9. Do not take offensive remarks, witticisms, ridicule spoken after, which often happens on the streets and in public places, at your own expense.

              Be above it. Go away - you won’t lose, but you will get rid of the scandal.

              10. If you can’t say anything good about someone, then refrain from talking bad, if you know.

              11. Do not neglect anyone's advice - listen. The right, whether to follow it or not, will remain with you. Managing to take good advice from another is no less an art than giving yourself good advice.

              12. The officer’s strength is not in impulses, but in indestructible calm.

              13. Take care of the reputation of the woman who trusted you, no matter who she is.

              14. There are situations in life when you need to silence your heart and live with reason.

              15. The mystery communicated by you to at least just one person ceases to be a mystery.

              16. Always be on the lookout and don't dissolve.

              17. Try to keep your words soft in the argument, and your arguments firm. Try not to annoy the enemy, but to convince him.

              18. At public masquerades, officers are not allowed to dance.

              19. When speaking, avoid gestures and do not raise your voice.

              20. If you enter a society in the midst of which there is a person with whom you are in a quarrel, then, greeting everyone, it is customary to give a hand and to him, of course, if this cannot be avoided without paying attention to those present or to the owners. Giving a hand does not give rise to excessive talk, but does not oblige you to anything.

              21. Nothing teaches as awareness of one’s mistake. This is one of the main means of self-education. Only he who does nothing is not mistaken.

              22. When two people quarrel, both are always to blame.

              23. Authority is acquired by knowledge of business and service. It is important that subordinates respect you, not be afraid. Where there is fear, there is no love, but there is a secret ill-will or hatred.

              24. There is nothing worse than indecision. Better a worse decision than hesitation or inaction. You will not return the missed moment.

              25. The one who fears nothing is more powerful than the one whom everyone fears.

              26. Soul - to God, heart - to a woman, duty - to the Fatherland, honor - to no one!
          2. perm23
            perm23 15 October 2015 11: 55 New
            +3
            Sorry, well, I think it’s time for us to shout about Great Russia for a long time. and then over the past years, everyone around has shouted about the greatness of the West. And if today we will not praise our Russia, then our children will not respect it. Because they will only hear about the great West.
        2. atalef
          atalef 15 October 2015 09: 08 New
          +4
          Quote: venaya
          Quote: atalef
          ... and of course walk along the 5th column and the Jews. And that's it, you're a marshall.

          I understand your problems, but my experience also shows that if you try to praise Russia or the peoples inhabiting it, then often an inexplicable reaction also arises. However, let me remind you: this is the site of the "Military Review" of the Russian Federation, and not at all foreign. There are many peoples in the world, let them read, comment, but the praise of foreigners should naturally be surprising, perhaps you just need to be a little more modest.

          In general, I have no problems, since this day I opened this site and saw what many people don’t even know about, I understand the pros and cons of the ranks, I think - you should leave the ranks - just do not limit the skull in comments - this will bring some order and will force some to abandon practice - to drive into the skull - just to shut up their mouth, if a person does not violate the rules of the site, he has the right to speak out regardless of the rating
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 October 2015 11: 37 New
            +4
            this will restore some order and force some to abandon practice - to drive into the skulls - just to shut up


            Yes, here is a non-drying space. ONE user and even several, well, no way will not be able to drive someone into the "skull". Rather, you will drive yourself. Somehow for careless five minuses for a day during a heated discussion half of the rating. As well as five warnings at a time. So those who are not accepted by the majority of site users are driven into the skulls. So if you really don't want to look at "non-kosher" comments, then put everyone in the emergency situation, leave only Alexander Romanov, Bashny, Domokla, with whom, probably, the site started. It's easy. But then you will not have the opportunity to troll the audience with your comments. They simply will not be seen by anyone. So you have to pay for all the pleasures, albeit with virtual skulls.
          2. Scraptor
            Scraptor 15 October 2015 21: 18 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            I'm on this site since its opening

            so-so-so, from now on - in more detail ... Were you in the initiative group? lol

            "Well, Semyon Semenovich !?" laughing
            Oh yeah ...
      3. inkass_98
        inkass_98 15 October 2015 07: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        walk on the 5-th column and the Jews.

        This is our everything! It goes without the fifth column, especially since the dispute is with people who are close in upbringing and (sometimes) the level of education, but who live in a country with a completely different standard of living and approach to the system of life values.
        Here it is like with skakkami, with all the proletarian hatred - to the nail :)
        Z.Y. I’ll add a rating so that they don’t immediately drop to the skulls :)
      4. Good me
        Good me 15 October 2015 08: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        it’s enough 100 to scream while shouting, to quote Bismarck’s fictitious quote, not to forget more electronic warfare, and of course to walk along the 5-th column and the Jews.
        And that's it, you're a marshall.


        Another, "reverse process" is also possible, which is confirmed by practice: the user begins to troll, drawing the interlocutor into a discussion on favorable terms for himself, using the method "PROVE IT!", While unceremoniously touching upon the themes of religion, interethnic relations and other "sore" issues ...

        But the people on the site, not a fraer, sees everything ... And such faces, from the "colonels", in two days, "roll down" to the "foreman".
        1. Manul
          Manul 15 October 2015 10: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Good Me
          Another, "reverse process" is also possible, which is confirmed by practice: the user begins to troll, drawing the interlocutor into a discussion on favorable terms for himself, using the method "PROVE IT!", While unceremoniously touching upon the themes of religion, interethnic relations and other "sore" issues ...

          good Peerless !!! hi Especially
          drawing the interlocutor into a discussion on favorable terms
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 15 October 2015 21: 20 New
            0
            ask for a link (proof) you still must not forget ... so they are taught, then show the language and turn guz.
        2. lelikas
          lelikas 15 October 2015 11: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: Good Me
          Another, "reverse process" is also possible, which is confirmed by practice: the user begins to troll, drawing the interlocutor into a discussion on favorable terms for himself, using the method "PROVE IT!", While unceremoniously touching upon the themes of religion, interethnic relations and other "sore" issues ...

          But the people on the site, not a fraer, sees everything ... And such faces, from the "colonels", in two days, "roll down" to the "foreman".

          I have long offered not to ban trolls, but rather leave a couple for divorce. It is more interesting with them - they can be fed.
          And if a person is guided by the troll’s machinations - alas - this means that he still needs to work on himself.
      5. Buffalo
        Buffalo 15 October 2015 08: 41 New
        +6
        It turns out that not all soldiers carry marshal wands in their knapsacks! laughing And not every soldier wants to become a general! There are pacifists, or those who dress up in their toga. Or appeals to high ideals, setting himself the task of achieving mundane selfish goals.
        I only agree that usually "shakers" and "approvers", who do not enter into heated discussions, gain pluses faster.
        Second moment. Whoever scored the first lines in a branch sets the tone, both in sight and in pluses. The rest, at best, respond. And at worst, no one is watching their review. The defect in the comment system is evident.
        1. biznaw
          biznaw 15 October 2015 13: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Bison
          Second moment. Whoever scored the first lines in a branch sets the tone, both in sight and in pluses. The rest, at best, respond. And at worst, no one is watching their review. The defect in the comment system is evident.


          I could not resist put a plus. I'm sorry ...
          At first I thought that the ranks were real, I was looking in the registration form for a column to put my own, I was disappointed. Not seriously, this is a rank for plus or minus for a military site. Than these teenage complexes with toys with the title are better than nothing at all. Who has long been on the site already knows the price of each other, and beginners will find out.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 15: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: biznaw
            At first I thought that the ranks were real, I was looking in the form of registration for a column to put my own, I was disappointed.

            He laughed heartily! Is it natural naivety or subtle glum? With the Union (in all history), we did not have as many marshals as here!laughing
            1. BMW
              BMW 15 October 2015 17: 36 New
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              With the Union (in all history), we did not have as many marshals as here!

              Great Russia, and the marshals in it can not be counted.
      6. Bekas1967
        Bekas1967 15 October 2015 08: 55 New
        -1
        Toko not a "piece")))) the corporal is better)))
      7. Turkir
        Turkir 15 October 2015 10: 01 New
        +1
        It would be nice if the site had the option (for those who wish) to refuse the rating and remain an ordinary (or ensign wink)

        Leave the titles alone - let it be just a "civil servant".
        what
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      9. Ural resident
        Ural resident 15 October 2015 10: 28 New
        +7
        Also noticed - for "hurray" here people are gaining ratings. Only some critical comment is immediately negative. I myself like to support the not always popular opinion - for the truth is born in a dispute. And do not care about the cons. I am a patriot, but I do not accept hat-hating - we have suffered a lot because of this in history. We really are now at the crossroads of times and danger is hanging over our civilization. And you have to be very thoughtful, pragmatic and careful in your actions and statements. And it's not a sin to learn from enemies - there are a lot of talented people there. And this is possible only in polemics and discussions.
        On the Ukrainian topic, discussions were generally off-scale - they called the Ukrainians themselves zombie dancers, watered the censor and did the same themselves. What are we better then? As something happens for us - Ukrainians rejoice - as they have - ours are jumping here for joy. Some comparisons are not good ...
        all messages like "The caravan goes" minus immediately, alternative opinions - plus
      10. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 15 October 2015 10: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        it’s enough 100 to scream while shouting, to quote Bismarck’s fictitious quote, not to forget more electronic warfare, and of course to walk along the 5-th column and the Jews.
        And that's it, you're a marshall.


        In Sasha today, the shoulder strap looks more cheerful laughing
        Actually, this is a robust and quite original idea with titles, and if something goes wrong, we spoil something ourselves ..
      11. alicante11
        alicante11 15 October 2015 11: 23 New
        +2
        The problem is that people who do not have any knowledge, understanding, or anything that can not reach high ranks and the possibility of influence-- except Uryayay and drafts are bald.


        Well, what are you modest about? You also had a lot of stars. Just your comments, as well as the actions of your fellow tribesmen, often cause a well-deserved indignation. Still, the Russian site and peremptory comments, of course, will not add to your popularity.

        It would be nice if the site had the option (for those who wish) to refuse the rating and remain an ordinary (or ensign wink)


        And safely troll the majority of the site? C'mon, it’s the same as letting the Hezbollah fighter walk around the Jewish city, albeit not with a gun, but with a bat and a note that the police and local residents have no right to fight back and dodge.
      12. korvin1976
        korvin1976 15 October 2015 11: 46 New
        +3
        Strangely enough, I completely agree, both with the article and with atalef.
        Personally, I do not care about the ranks and other whitewash, make me ordinary, I will not be offended. In the region, make a sergeant, this is my real army rank.
        All these pluses and minuses, of course, are of little importance, they are simply necessary, but .... certainly they should not influence any titles and regalia there.
        The lion part of the pluses is under comments like:
        I agree with the previous speaker;
        All sorts of copyrights;
        A big quote from another user, and under it 8 -20 letters, about nothing;
        and everything else is in the same vein.
        It is very rare to find pluses when a full detailed answer is given in a comment, which reflects the author's thought. I understand it is difficult to read such comments: "a lot of bukf"
        My "grading" policy:
        If the comment is substantive, and carries a certain thought, a thought which gives rise to reflection. Such a comment is clearly worthy of a plus
        If the comment is about nothing, more precisely about what I talked about above, then this comment is clearly not a plus, and there is a desire to minus this comment. For this is called flood, and not otherwise
        Well, now about the minuses, I only minus those comments that carry a certain thought, but this thought carries either lies or serious insults. Moreover, I leave the simple insulting comments that do not carry a bit of thought untouched, such comments are already the problem of the moderators.
        I will never deny justified comments, and even if I fundamentally disagree with them. A forum for that and a forum that would be an opportunity for communication.
        After reading my thoughts, just go through the comments on this article and see that what I have stated is 80% obvious somewhere
      13. lelikas
        lelikas 15 October 2015 11: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        And that's it, you're a marshall.

        And then what? All at once cease to carry nonsense?

        To the author of the article - if you still do not understand how many children and teenagers are sitting here, for whom this is a really interesting game, then we (teenagers) ((just kidding)) are not to blame.
        Do not like the title - write to admins - they will fix it.
        As the fashion of whining began half a year ago - the Marshals are minus me - there seemed to be five articles, nothing has changed.
        I would be quite satisfied with the midshipman's epaulettes (yes, black) - should I write an article too now?
      14. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 14: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        quote a fictitious quote from Bismarck

        Why fictional? Uncle spawn many clever quotes.
        Quote: atalef
        and of course, walk along the 5th column and the Jews.

        As a rule, representatives of the so-called fifth column are Jews. An accident? It is unlikely that if you look at coincidences from the point of view of Grigory Klimov.
        Well, the rest according to the comment I agree with you, +.
        Well, hello or something, Levoslav! You don’t sin on me, I haven’t put you a minus for a hundred years. Although often disagree. hi
        1. atalef
          atalef 15 October 2015 16: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Well, hello or something, Levoslav! You don’t sin on me, I haven’t put you a minus for a hundred years. Although often disagree.

          hi
          And you, hello, faithful hi
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 17: 20 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            And you, hello, faithful

            The faithful there are found near you, but I am Orthodox! wink How are you? What is the mood among the Jewish people about our flights near you? Surely people think differently, or how? hi
            P.S. Something Igor67 was gone, is it not in Latakia that it serves MI-24s? His theme. laughing
            1. atalef
              atalef 15 October 2015 17: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              The faithful there are found near you, but I am Orthodox!

              What difference does it make between Christians and Muslims, Jesus from Judea wink - the son of God or the prophet
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              How are you? What is the mood among the Jewish people about our flights near you?

              Apparently flying together wink
              Russian Defense Ministry: Israeli and Russian pilots train for flights over Syria
              publication time: 16: 31 | latest update: 16: 31 blog printable photo version
              Russian Defense Ministry: Israeli and Russian pilots train for flights over Syria
              Russian and Israeli military pilots began training on Wednesday to ensure flight safety over Syria, an official TASS news agency reported Thursday, October 15, citing a Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov.

              "Yesterday, the first stage of training was held on the interaction of the Russian aerospace forces and the Israeli air force in the interests of preventing dangerous incidents in the skies of the Syrian Arab Republic. Today, the second stage of training with Israeli colleagues will take place," the official said.

              According to Konashenkov, the parties inform each other about the actions of the aircraft, using for this purpose the "hot line" between the Russian aviation control center at the Khmeimim airbase and the command post of the Israeli Air Force.

              On the eve of the Israeli media reported that the command of the Israel Defense Forces and the leadership of the armed forces of the Russian Federation have completed work on the creation of a special structure to coordinate actions in everything related to the operations of Russian aviation in Syria.

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Surely people think differently, or how?

              Believe me - he does not think in any way. Today the piano does not play
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              P.S. Something Igor67 was gone, is it not in Latakia that it serves MI-24s? His theme.

              Yes, no, today there is his comment on VO.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 20: 39 New
                0
                Quote: atalef
                What difference does it make between Christians and Muslims

                Neither one nor the other Sanya. Orthodox - from the word praise the Right! And there is Reality and Nav. wink
                Quote: atalef
                Believe me - does not think in any way

                belay How's that?
                Quote: atalef
                Yes, no, today there is his comment on VO.

                I didn’t see it, I need to look at the profile. hi
      15. Scraptor
        Scraptor 15 October 2015 20: 57 New
        0
        Everything, after this comment you are again not a sergeant - the "professor" can not cry, the topic of pushing anisemitism is always taken out. laughing
        How would you, in the company of other Hymenoptera trolls, for a whole year misrepresent the 30mm exit holes from the Su-25 cannon on the Malaysian Boeing as the 8,4mm entrance holes from the Buk warhead shrapnel ... Although the tkebe was explained several times.
    5. Finches
      Finches 15 October 2015 06: 50 New
      10
      "Voltaire, Milton and Panic ..."sagitch "- the famous phrase asks for the tongue! Just do not call my dear, sagitch, me:" a pathetic and insignificant person! " laughing

      Personally, I have no difference in this VO chip with military ranks - a good brand idea and nothing more! I don’t even see a reason for discussion! I rarely put pluses and even less often minuses, but I’ll gladly put pluses, otherwise judging by the article, you really want a beautiful marshal epaulette for your avatar, and the evil participants of VO do not appreciate you! They wrote an entire article ... laughing

      If you think the comments are stupid and uninteresting - do not read them! Or dilute with your smart and thoughtful comments! No problems!

      Regards hi
      1. Bugor
        Bugor 15 October 2015 07: 11 New
        +5
        Homer was there .... Homer, Milton and Panikovsky. All are blind.
        1. Finches
          Finches 15 October 2015 07: 33 New
          +1
          Thank you for the amendment! hi

          Indeed, Homer! I’ve confused something in the morning ...!
    6. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 15 October 2015 07: 08 New
      +1
      I support the article. To the author - plus!
    7. tomket
      tomket 15 October 2015 09: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      and many, to get them, say nonsense, and as much as possible!

      Express nonsense okay. The question is, who is adding these nonsense?
    8. perm23
      perm23 15 October 2015 11: 48 New
      +2
      Well, about the rank, I agree with you. I don’t have anything for me. I had not even looked at it before until a similar article appeared some time ago. Well, someone likes it. Let it be . And as for the discussion of articles and statements - this is, as always, everyone understands in their own way what is written. Therefore, minus and plus. I do not understand that everyone is so against it. Well put me minus what. Maybe I'm wrong or right. I'll think about it.
  3. svp67
    svp67 15 October 2015 05: 10 New
    12
    And the bulk of truly “literate ways” was expressed precisely by “carriers of the high command marks”. And I am 100% sure that our common enemies will certainly take advantage of these “tips” in Syria.
    I can not answer this statement. It does not occur to the author that in order to organize a normal defense it is necessary to calculate as many options as possible for an OPPONENT. So that this knowledge can and will help our enemies, but only if we ourselves do not possess it and, accordingly, we do not think up countermeasures.

    Well, the author wants to remain in the "eternal colonels", maybe the administration will introduce a separate rank of "retired colonel" for him, in which no changes will be taken into account, but within the limits of the rules.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 05: 48 New
      +4
      Seryozha, we are Urals people, sympathetic people .. can we help our distinguished colleague? when we meet in the comments, "sagitch", we will give cons to give .... well, the man asks that we will not help or what? wink hi
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 15 October 2015 05: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        the man asks that we will not help or what?

        But still you need to be able to stay in the rank. Well, not everyone wants to become marshals. Some, having reached a rank, are reset to zero, and start over.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 06: 01 New
          +6
          Quote: EvgNik
          Well, not everyone wants to become marshals. Some, having reached a rank, are reset to zero, and start over.

          like children, by golly ... they are playing titles. what's the difference? they pay a lot of attention to their own person ... do you need a rating or communication with Men, and the opportunity to express your point of view on this or that information?
          1. domokl
            domokl 15 October 2015 06: 38 New
            +6
            Hi Andrew. I agree. I have the same opinion. The cubs. Everyone knows very well those who are interested in reading and who can simply be viewed. The title can be confusing only for beginners.
          2. EvgNik
            EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 37 New
            10
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            need a rating or communication with Men,

            Rating - a second time. The main thing is the opportunity to express your opinion and the opportunity to know whether you are right or not. There is nothing to agree with, and most importantly: sometimes after reading the comments, you get more information than from the article itself.
            1. perm23
              perm23 15 October 2015 12: 01 New
              +1
              Yes, for me the main thing is. Read what others write, speak out for yourself. And then sit and ponder. A rating - maybe someone needs it.
              1. Dante Alighieri
                Dante Alighieri 15 October 2015 14: 33 New
                +3
                I support. I registered in December 2012, and before that, for about a year and a half, I was just a visitor without registration. Pay attention to my current "title", which by the way suits me completely. (As in that song: I served not for titles and orders, I do not like the stars by pull, But I served the captain's stars in full. Aty-bats, aty-bats). This is because I rarely allow myself to make loud statements, preferring to thoughtfully read the remarks of visitors, looking for rational grains missed by the authors and which, in general, supplement the main texts of articles. I carefully and painstakingly save the articles I especially like in a profile or on a carrier, so that I can later return to them later. I speak out exclusively on burning issues, and therefore, I am convinced that bravado, I cannot say otherwise, by titles and ratings is complete childishness, which comes mainly from those who came to the site relatively recently (in the year of Crimean Victoria), on patriotic wave grabbed bonuses and now in his eyes appears to be nothing but a guru in all aspects of this resource and sincerely wonders why he is "belittled" when it comes not to abstract statements, but, for example, on specific "+" and "- "this or that phenomenon (which by itself implies the most complicated formally logical operation). Such comrades would like to say one thing: "Do not despair." Take a look at the Professor - a person who regularly receives disadvantages for a number of his beliefs, continues to defend them with enviable persistence, without changing either his principles or himself. For which he is honored and praised. hi
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 15: 31 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Dante
                  Take a look at the Professor - a person regularly receives cons on a number of his convictions

                  Sometimes with distinctly noticeable trolling. He has such a trait, for which they minus. I myself put it cons very rarely, only if I really ask, like today -
                  Quote: Professor
                  Two more Iranian generals killed in Syria
                  Pancake. I did not have time to celebrate the previous event, and the good news is like that.
                  Not pretty, even disgusting. Nobody dances here after another suicide belt is blown up at the bus stop. A maximum of words like "themselves ran into their own policy of the chosen people."
                  Well, I agree with you, although at first I chased the pluses the same, I tried to be the first to be noted. hi
                  1. Dante Alighieri
                    Dante Alighieri 15 October 2015 16: 31 New
                    +1
                    Eh, which of us did not minus the Professor? winked Therefore, he should be given some kind of achievement: "For firmness" or "Fortitude, which the Romans envy." Although the Romans are probably better not to mention, they are still invaders of a free Jew and all that laughing .
        2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 15 October 2015 10: 09 New
          +2
          I think the site attracts readers with these titles. Who cares about communication, rather than titles, may not pay attention to them and the whole business. But since there is a demand for the lack of ranks, they could at will leave people without shoulder straps at all.
  4. RU-Officer
    RU-Officer 15 October 2015 05: 21 New
    +6
    Author:
    For the reasons stated above, I would prefer to remain in the “officer corps”, and since there is no other way to remain in the so-called “golden middle” (and sometimes you want to express your point of view), you, the users of the site, if not against it, put a minus for article, I will be very grateful to you, otherwise there is not much left to the “general”.

    Yes, do not worry you so, dear "sagitch", what will be - will not escape yes ... The rules of the "game" are established, "thought" is boiling, "spears" are breaking, people are communicating, learning, developing (well, I would like to think so ... repeat ). Although it's not about the "shoulder straps", but in general - you are right. How does Winnie the Pooh get: "There is spelling, but it is a little lame" ... laughing And who said that the "colonel" on "VO" is the "golden mean"? what From personal experience I can reassure you - if there is no race for "quantity", and, accordingly, emphasize on "quality" - then "Marshal" will not shine for you soon. stop "What is our life? A game!" hi
  5. Russian063
    Russian063 15 October 2015 05: 22 New
    +4
    Comrade "Colonel" seriously thinks that all the methods of destroying the airbase have not been calculated by the enemies? Then we are probably bombing schoolchildren in Syria, not cruel and insidious terrorists.
  6. dsi
    dsi 15 October 2015 05: 29 New
    +3
    Thought - Surely after the death of Iranian generals in Syria. I read the article, but not you drift. Here the generals are not shot, look around. Wherever you spit in the Marshal you will get. Here I am curious -And the generalissimo will be here?
    1. biznaw
      biznaw 15 October 2015 13: 08 New
      0
      Exactly. And for this reason I opened the article ...
      Quote: dsi
      Thought - Surely after the death of Iranian generals in Syria. I read the article, but not you drift. Here the generals are not shot, look around. Wherever you spit in the Marshal you will get. Here I am curious -And the generalissimo will be here?
  7. EvgNik
    EvgNik 15 October 2015 05: 42 New
    +9
    I noticed a long time ago that although the site's rules are not allowed to be repeated, some members of our community actively use them, up to the appearance of duplicates of anecdotes, photos and videos in the comments to one article. And the "gophers" are already bored (video - "have you seen the gopher?). I will not say that this is always done on purpose, to raise the rating, sometimes on emotions, or you want to say something, but there is nothing. But still we must try to follow the rules of the site and sometimes to refresh them in memory. The spelling is lame, so sometimes you hurry up and press the next letter, but not everyone has time to read the comment and correct mistakes. But someone is very sensitive to this.
    1. igordok
      igordok 15 October 2015 06: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: EvgNik
      I noticed for a long time that although site rules do not allow repetition, some members of our community actively use them, up to the appearance of anecdotes, photos and videos in the comments for one article.

      Alas, this does not happen intentionally. You’ll put a good, from your point of view, commentary on the comment. Go down lower, look, you're not the only one to think of such a thing. And your koment to remove laziness or is already impossible.
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 15 October 2015 19: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: EvgNik
      And the "gophers" have already zadolbali (video - "have you seen the gopher?).

      On "VO" "gophers", as on "Instagram" seals laughing The main thing is to insert, and what doesn’t matter.
  8. Kovlad
    Kovlad 15 October 2015 05: 45 New
    +9
    Another nonsense, all careerists, one I'm good! The author, if you are interested in this site, then just read, if interested, participate. And such articles regularly appear.
  9. Baloo
    Baloo 15 October 2015 05: 48 New
    +2
    The author made laugh. laughing
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 15 October 2015 05: 56 New
    +3
    I agree with the author, the military ranks of the VO forum participants are clearly too much, it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor" ... soldier
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: Volka
      it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor"

      Star of the Hero of Russia against your nickname, avatar in the iconostasis lol
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 06: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Star Hero of Russia against your nickname, avatar in the iconostasis

        and if the "ban" is posthumously ...? belay lol
      2. atalef
        atalef 15 October 2015 06: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Volka
        it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor"

        Star of the Hero of Russia against your nickname, avatar in the iconostasis lol

        And can foreign ones be? An order of garter, bathhouse or exotic - although a problem, some part is clearly required - swords, diamonds or oak leaves to the cross.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          Order of the garter, bathhouse or exotic - although the problem

          Will you catch the garter wassat Imported wink
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 15 October 2015 11: 28 New
            0
            This is not a garter.
          2. kagorta
            kagorta 15 October 2015 15: 36 New
            0
            This is a garter, she holds a stocking. And you have a stocking belt in the picture.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 15 October 2015 07: 21 New
          +2
          As for bruliks, more can be, such as how much? wassat
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 15 October 2015 21: 43 New
            0
            only for cryptocurrency, and for preferential price - 1 ruble = 1dollar (Deja Vu) wink
        3. Buffalo
          Buffalo 15 October 2015 09: 04 New
          +1
          Do you want the dunce order? - Foreign!
          Do you recall De Funes?
        4. Bekas1967
          Bekas1967 15 October 2015 09: 08 New
          +3
          Some would have crossed the crosses at the right time.
        5. Good me
          Good me 15 October 2015 09: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          And can foreign ones be? Order of a garter, bathhouse or exotic - although a problem, some part will be clearly demanded - swords, diamonds or oak leaves to the cross.


          Crosses made of oak ...
        6. Scraptor
          Scraptor 15 October 2015 21: 22 New
          -1
          Yes, especially to you ... and with acorns so that the rudel is not conceited.
          or with a swastika winked
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Star of Hero of Russia against your nickname

        Why is a star necessary? State awards to distribute are allowed only to the government. You have to draw your own ones (to announce a competition).
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 08: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: EvgNik
          . You have to draw your own ones (to announce a competition).

          There is nothing to do more administration.
    2. venaya
      venaya 15 October 2015 06: 18 New
      +3
      with the army ranks of the VO forum participants is clearly too much, it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor" ... soldier

      Can you imagine how much less interest in this case in such an entertaining game. Trying to decrease, comments will become faded. I am not against changes, but only in the direction of improvements, but experience shows that as a rule: "the best is the enemy of the good."
    3. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 15 October 2015 06: 55 New
      +7
      [quote = Volka] I agree with the author, the army ranks of the VO forum participants are clearly overkill, it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor" ... soldier[where does the title, insignia, medals?
      Just interesting to read, communication ...
      The men here are mostly thinking, competent, professionals, each in their field. Interesting! It is interesting to read opinions, even if I completely disagree.
      In my opinion, there is great luxury in VO, the luxury of living human communication. And the titles ... Adult men always remain a little children and continue to play war games
      / Quote]
    4. EvgNik
      EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Volka
      it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor".

      What a good idea.
      1. Good me
        Good me 15 October 2015 15: 39 New
        0
        Quote: EvgNik
        Quote: Volka
        it would be more correct to introduce some orders, medals, bows, swords and other attributes of "military valor".

        What a good idea.


        Do you nefig. Bows ... Ryushechki ... Homosapiences, damn it.
  11. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 October 2015 06: 00 New
    11
    -How good to be a general, how good to be a general!
    Better work, but I won’t name the Signora.
    I will be just a general, I will become a general,
    If the corporal, if the corporal survive! lol
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 06: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      -How good to be a general, how good to be a general!
      Better work, but I won’t name the Signora.
      I will be just a general, I will become a general,
      If the corporal, if the corporal survive! lol

      + I remembered my childhood, my mother’s records ... hi
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 15 October 2015 09: 22 New
        +5
        Corporal except minus left no arguments fool
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 15 October 2015 16: 18 New
          +5
          Wow! The corporal was raging! Not smart and mean. hi
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 15 October 2015 11: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      -How good to be a general, how good to be a general!
      Better work, but I won’t name the Signora.
      I will be just a general, I will become a general,
      If the corporal, if the corporal survive! lol


      I recalled the army saying - the general is not a rank, the general is happiness .. laughing
  12. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 15 October 2015 06: 13 New
    -16
    "" Marshalov is increasing, but the quality of comments is decreasing ""
    what did you want from the yellow site?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      what did you want from the yellow site?

      Do not like the sit, go to another.
    2. dsi
      dsi 15 October 2015 06: 28 New
      0
      Quality goes into quantity. The conclusion is a tightening of the site’s policy. It follows that the number of users will be reduced. Do you need this? ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 38 New
        0
        Quote: dsi
        The conclusion is a tightening of the site’s policy.

        Conclusion, you do not know anything about the politics of Sait!
        Quote: dsi
        It follows that the number of users will be reduced. Do you need this? ...

        It only grows and does not fall.
        1. dsi
          dsi 15 October 2015 07: 28 New
          +2
          Conclusion, you do not know anything about the politics of Sait!

          I suppose you know everything! So enlighten. sad
      2. Buffalo
        Buffalo 15 October 2015 08: 54 New
        +3
        And why is a democratic system bad when everyone is equal in the discussion?
        Marshals on the forum, from which ripples in their eyes, resemble a bathhouse, where people shine not with their bare ass, but with orders. laughing
    3. forester
      forester 15 October 2015 06: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      what do you want from the "yellow" site

      Then why are you here? go to some other blue one
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 06: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      "" Marshalov is increasing, but the quality of comments is decreasing ""
      what did you want from the yellow site?

      Shoot the "censor", he is "zhovto-blakitny"! laughing
    5. EvgNik
      EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      what did you want from the yellow site?

      You yourself are yellow, with blue.
    6. Turkir
      Turkir 15 October 2015 10: 03 New
      0
      It doesn’t matter what we want.
      The main thing you want.
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    8. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 15 October 2015 14: 35 New
      +1
      Why do you think that the site is "yellow"? On the "yellow" sites, Fili Kirkorov's coward and Alla Pugacheva's bra are discussed. And here are a discussion of foreign and domestic policy, an overview of weapons, historical excursions and much more, about which on the "yellow" sites and they never heard of it. Of course, if you like how Moiseyev's priest differs from Penkin's priest, then here you will definitely not find it.
  13. populist
    populist 15 October 2015 06: 22 New
    +1
    put a minus for the article, I will be very grateful to you, otherwise there is not much left for the "general".

    The author does not know what you can get the cons?
    The opinion of the author always coincides with the opinion of the majority, with the trend?
    I would have spoken out several times against it, and I would have received a "skull".
    One could speak out against the discussion of the base, sharply against it.
    And a bunch of cons in your pocket
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 15 October 2015 11: 04 New
      +1
      The author wants to pick up the pros, not the minuses. Just don't know how. Most people consider themselves to be the most ... Just like no luck. And I think that you need to be simpler, to perceive life as it is and not to bother with all kinds of nonsense.
  14. sl22277
    sl22277 15 October 2015 06: 27 New
    +6
    If I don't like some statement, comment, but there is no lie, insult or anti-Russian statement in it, I just pass it by. But if I liked the comment, I want to support the author's point of view, put a plus. And I am absolutely not moved by the opinion of the majority. Regarding the rank on the site, this only once again confirms that the comments of a person are relevant, interesting, sometimes controversial, there is a discussion, sometimes a dispute. But for this the forum was created. PS If Marshal wrote: "Death to the Fascists" this does not mean that I do not support him, I support him, I just do not appreciate.
  15. Yellow
    Yellow 15 October 2015 06: 29 New
    +2
    And how can one become a general on the forum, or at least a colonel?
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 October 2015 06: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Yellow
      And how can one become a general on the forum, or at least a colonel?

      Ask Vatnik, he will explain hi
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 07: 01 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Yellow
        And how can one become a general on the forum, or at least a colonel?

        Ask Vatnik, he will explain hi

        to "Meehan" in a "personal" - will enlighten! yes laughing
        1. Manul
          Manul 15 October 2015 10: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          to "Meehan" in a "personal" - will enlighten!

          belay What are you, Yurich?
          Yellow, you in no case do not listen to this wit! Mikhan will teach you only one thing - without the People’s Commissar 100 grams, even Samantha Power will be attractive to sin! wassat
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 15 October 2015 10: 38 New
            +3
            Quote: Manul
            Mikhan will teach you only one thing - without 100 grams of the People’s Commissar, to desire any scary chick, even Samantha Power!

            This is how unhealthy sensations are born request... What is Samantha ?? fool Meehan fuse love on psaku !! yes
            And not after 100g., But after a liter, and not the People’s Commissars, but Martel ... winked
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 11: 59 New
              +3
              This is how unhealthy sensations are born request... What is Samantha ?? fool Meehan fuse love on psaku !! yes
              And not after 100g., But after a liter, and not the People’s Commissars, but Martel ... winked[/ Quote]
              Plus you sclerosing partisans, for a quality amendment! yes
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 15: 42 New
              +3
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              Meehan crush on Psaku !!

              When did he, adulter? am But what about the promise to blow Vasilyeva?
              1. evil partisan
                evil partisan 15 October 2015 16: 54 New
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                he promised to blow Vasilyeva! Only now something is going for a long time. Or do we not know something?

                What would you, Colleague, know Mikhan and Vasiliev from one city - Orenburg yes.
                After the first promises of Meehan to blow sad as you deigned, Vasilyeva abruptly turned to the opposition to Putin yes and dumped in Ukraine. yes So the process of inflating is not possible request for purely technical reasons. Not yet possible ... winked
                1. Captain45
                  Captain45 15 October 2015 19: 20 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                  What would you, Colleague, know Mikhan and Vasiliev from one city - Orenburg

                  Colleague, don’t you confuse about Vasilyeva? that she gave out the list of the Orenburg football team "Gazovik" for the list of soldiers of the Russian Armed Forces who died in Donbass
                  1. evil partisan
                    evil partisan 15 October 2015 19: 44 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Captain45
                    As far as I remember, she is from Murmansk,

                    what
                    Hmmm sad ... Well, then Meehan got it there too yes .
                  2. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 16 October 2015 04: 12 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Captain45
                    that she gave out the list of the Orenburg football team "Gazovik" for the list of soldiers of the Russian Armed Forces who died in Donbass

                    you're talking about different basil ....
                    1. evil partisan
                      evil partisan 16 October 2015 06: 03 New
                      0
                      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                      you're talking about different basil ....

                      Those. You, Colleague, suspect that Mikhan is simply excited by the name of Vasiliev? what And I thought: why did they keep Serdyukov’s girlfriend for so long under house arrest? And it’s over there that ... By the way. If suddenly Meehan wants Samantha, then he needs to hurry, otherwise they will lead away:
                    2. Captain45
                      Captain45 16 October 2015 09: 47 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                      Quote: Captain45
                      that she gave out the list of the Orenburg football team "Gazovik" for the list of soldiers of the Russian Armed Forces who died in Donbass

                      you're talking about different basil ....

                      Possibly. They, entich Vasilyevs, now like guano after a bath and all have something to do with it. No wonder and confuse requestWhether it’s the case in the early days, they will put the stamp of the BOP on the forehead, you won’t confuse who stole and who buried laughing
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 15 October 2015 15: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          to "Meehan" in a "personal" - will enlighten!

          Himself so! wink And in general, do not drive against Mikhan, he promised to blow Vasilyeva! repeat Only now something is going for a long time. Or do we not know something? request
          And for the experience of gaining a rating, ideally, you need to send Thoughts to the Giant! laughing
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    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 45 New
      12
      Quote: Yellow
      And how can one become a general on the forum, or at least a colonel?

      1. Change the flag to Israeli.
      2. Often write well about the US president.
      3. Stay democratic values.
      And you will be happy wink
      1. atalef
        atalef 15 October 2015 07: 25 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Yellow
        And how can one become a general on the forum, or at least a colonel?

        1. Change the flag to Israeli.
        2. Often write well about the US president.
        3. Stay democratic values.
        And you will be happy wink

        With the help of about such wishes, Eve slipped off an apple and ... now we suffer.
        1. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 15 October 2015 09: 28 New
          +7
          Quote: atalef
          Eve chucked an apple and ... now we suffer


          "-Adam! Well, are you sorry for the ribs !?
          - No, God, it's not a pity! Just a premonition of some kind ... "
      2. Buffalo
        Buffalo 15 October 2015 09: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        1. Change the flag to Israeli.
        2. Often write well about the US president.
        3. Stay democratic values.
        And you will be happy wink

        Something I do not see happiness on atalef's face, although he has something similar in abundance. laughing
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 15 October 2015 11: 08 New
          +2
          This is humor. A list of what you do not need to do.
        2. atalef
          atalef 15 October 2015 12: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Bison
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          1. Change the flag to Israeli.
          2. Often write well about the US president.
          3. Stay democratic values.
          And you will be happy wink

          Something I do not see happiness on atalef's face, although he has something similar in abundance. laughing

          What is due to Jupiter. Not allowed to a bull
          1. Buffalo
            Buffalo 15 October 2015 13: 16 New
            +1
            As they say in the army:
            - The laid .... laughing
    3. Turkir
      Turkir 15 October 2015 10: 05 New
      0
      Depends on the number of your comments and pluses-endorsements to your thoughts.
    4. evil partisan
      evil partisan 15 October 2015 10: 39 New
      -1
      Quote: Yellow
      And how can one become a general on the forum, or at least a colonel?

      Right now, I'll unsubscribe to you - how ... yes
  16. populist
    populist 15 October 2015 06: 33 New
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
    Even evaluating articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article,

    Firstly, percent of 90, they read only the headline and the maximum is the last paragraph.
    And secondly, things will change soon hi

    1 It is very interesting how things will change. The rating problem seems unsolvable.
    2 Sometimes it is enough to read only the heading and the fallacy of the author’s reasoning is already clear.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: populist
      The rating problem seems unsolvable.

      Even as solved.
      Quote: populist
      2 Sometimes it is enough to read only the heading and the fallacy of the author’s reasoning is already clear.

      Do you rate books by title too?
      1. populist
        populist 15 October 2015 23: 07 New
        0
        Still as solved

        Intrigued!
        Do you rate books by title too?

        Books also have authors.
        If you read the books of Isaev, Mukhin, Kara-Murza, Zinoviev, Delyagin, then there is a certain guarantee of quality.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: populist
      Sometimes it’s enough to read only the heading and the author’s reasoning is already clear.

      And sometimes the content of an article is exactly the opposite of the title. So it’s better to read the articles and not the headings.
      1. populist
        populist 15 October 2015 23: 24 New
        0
        EvgNik
        And sometimes the content of an article is exactly the opposite of the title. So it’s better to read the articles and not the headings.

        So then it is, but it is reasonable to object; what can the author of the article write if he failed to reflect his topic or main idea in the title?
  17. mr.vasilievich
    mr.vasilievich 15 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +4
    Too many cheers-patriotic comments, almost meaningless. Little responsibility.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 07: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: mr.vasilievich
      Too many cheers-patriotic comments, almost meaningless. Little responsibility.

      there are Rules for this, but in general the topic is already as old as the world: http: //topwar.ru/77943-commentarii-k-state-o-.html
  18. sl22277
    sl22277 15 October 2015 06: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Russian Uzbek
    "" Marshalov is increasing, but the quality of comments is decreasing ""
    what did you want from the yellow site?


    I don’t think you wanted to offend the site, you just phrased your thoughts in two ways. Therefore, they picked up the minuses, apparently the word "Yellow" - in a figurative sense of the word.
  19. Baloo
    Baloo 15 October 2015 06: 45 New
    18
    put a minus for the article, I will be very grateful to you, otherwise there is not much left for the "general".

    Yo ... a real colonel! I propose to introduce the rank of "even colonel", "odd colonel", "not yet a colonel", "already a colonel". Celebrating medal type, badge.

    Well, but seriously ... Here, military and civilian people exchange opinions, and someone conducts a meticulous multivariate analysis for themselves of events, phenomena, facts. What is VO for me? It’s like a tuning fork, where I compare my vision of what is happening in Russia, around Russia, against Russia with the public. The flying trolls here try to bend their line ... But the bears do not react to insects until the number of them exceeds a critical value. For me, this is a site of like-minded people and humor, even if not always e ... delicate, I welcome. Yellowness? In what? The conversational style prevails over the literary. So philologists have been periodically bouncing around and trying to reform the Russian language, although I personally am against it. I consider the VO site to be quite democratic, taking this opportunity, I thank the authors and moderators for their work, which allows us to communicate. hi
    Ps: be mutually polite, do not turn discussions into an exchange of spits and a bazaar.
    Politeness is a sign of the power of thought and play of the mind.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 15 October 2015 07: 01 New
      +2
      Well spoken Baloo! hi I join completely.
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 15 October 2015 08: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Balu
      Ps: be mutually polite, do not turn discussions into an exchange of spits and a bazaar.
      Politeness is a sign of the power of thought and play of the mind.

      I absolutely agree and fully support good And then a lot of "familiarity" began to appear, who, without seeing a person, without delving into the meaning of what they said, begin to play familiar with a periodic transition to a banal spreading with sprinkling of snot winked
      This is disgusting. We are Russian people, and not some Western "it" lol
      hi
    3. Bekas1967
      Bekas1967 15 October 2015 09: 12 New
      +1
      And also self-righteousness. What is the strength, brother? .....
  20. free
    free 15 October 2015 06: 47 New
    +1
    make me ordinary!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 06: 51 New
      0
      Quote: free
      make me ordinary!

      And what's the use of building up the pros and becoming a general again.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 15 October 2015 07: 08 New
      +5
      Ordinary general divan troops agree? Telegraph urgently to the General Staff of divan troops. bully
  21. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 October 2015 06: 48 New
    +6
    I would tell the author of the article how to stay a colonel, but I won’t ..... (some comrades will be offended)))))
    And there have already been a lot of such articles on the site ... I call them silent articles about myself! hi
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  23. mamont5
    mamont5 15 October 2015 07: 05 New
    0
    "For the reasons indicated above, I would prefer to remain in the" officer corps ""

    Does this title give you anything? This is not the first time that such a question has been raised, but what exactly is to be done? Either review and evaluate EVERY comment, which is physically impossible even for the army of moderators, or ... ignore these ranks. And if you want to make an opinion about a person, then look at him and his statements specifically.
    And as for the issuance of "military secrets", then ... I doubt it very much. Then it is necessary to prohibit the printing of numerous detective and spy literature, otherwise, there, sometimes, SUCH advice can be gleaned. What, by the way, is the CIA doing, if, of course, you believe the book "6 Days of Condor".
  24. askort154
    askort154 15 October 2015 07: 18 New
    10
    For a pensioner in winter, the Internet is an outlet. I "travel" to all sites like in space.
    But most of all "pulls" on the VO. Why? It's just that it pulls here like a warm house on a cold day.
    nasty things and come here to "recharge". Naturally, there is no "Olympus" here, but where is he ?! And we are not "geniuses" here either.
    I cast a quick glance at the "titles" to determine the "experience" of the participant. I don’t put any downsides in principle (maybe a couple and jumped out by mistake). It is especially comfortable here on the pre-holiday and holidays - there is no smell, the clinking of glasses is not heard, and the mood is like in a sauna, the spirit of a united team is felt. Thanks to the site organizers. Well, and the skeptics and whiners
    always have been, are and will be, as in any collective. The world would have long gone mad if there had been a majority.
  25. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 15 October 2015 07: 36 New
    +6
    Again raised the issue of color differentiation of pants. ☺
  26. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 15 October 2015 07: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Ivan Slav
    Even evaluating the articles, many, not understanding the essence of the article, but highlighting individual phrases, taking it out of context, begin to judge and put pros or cons.


    But wasn’t it always and everywhere?
  27. Roust
    Roust 15 October 2015 08: 19 New
    +1
    Frankly, only it smells of PR. But! Everyone has a purely personal opinion on their own, and striving on this highly respected site to "deserve" the "title" is boyishness.
  28. Stinger
    Stinger 15 October 2015 08: 24 New
    0
    The author is right. When collecting proposals for improving the site, among other proposals, it was proposed to exclude these children's ranks. I think it was the right offer. Gradually, VO turns into a computer game - who first reaches the highest level.
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 15 October 2015 09: 05 New
      +3
      The first was Romanov ...
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 15 October 2015 10: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Banshee
        The first was Romanov ...

        Nobody will catch A. Romanov .. I tried)))) I don’t want to! crying
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 16 October 2015 09: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Banshee
        The first was Romanov ...

        How is Adam, then who is Eve? lol I remember the women were present on the site in greater numbers, now it’s mainly Egoza (Elena), the rest can be seen by the life of her husband, whitewash, children laughing
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 15 October 2015 09: 07 New
      +3
      well, along with opinions on improving the site, there was also a harvest by rating and shoulder straps. polls were created, and the majority voted for the format that we see today. That is, the majority then satisfied with the pluses / minuses and stars, and at the request of the "Bolsheviks" the result. in the old forum it was all immortalized, but it was cleaned up.
      but in general VO also likes it) how long have these topics come up periodically and recruits are reminiscent of the good old Military Review.
      PS
      Roma writes that the first was Romanov ... really?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 11: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Gleb
        Roma writes that the first was Romanov ... really?

        Lies Banshee like a gray Meren
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 15 October 2015 11: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Gleb
          Roma writes that the first was Romanov ... really?

          Lies Banshee like a gray Meren

          Sasha, but you’re not afraid of warnings ..)))) laughing
  29. Terminolol
    Terminolol 15 October 2015 08: 49 New
    +3
    There are really not enough competent comments in the news section. It happens that any patriotic vyser in the forefront gains a bunch of likes, when a thoughtful comment reflecting the opinion of the author gains dislikes just because it does not coincide with the majority opinion.
    It infuriates when minus interesting articles (news) only because they are not patriotic, not understanding or forgetting why this minus is needed.
  30. Old26
    Old26 15 October 2015 08: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: venaya
    How I personally experience it. As soon as a comment essentially requires thinking, endless minuses immediately fly.

    Not necessary. Of course there is such an option, but sometimes it’s minus for the fact that your comment is contrary to the opinion of the minus.

    Quote: Rav075
    I completely agree! You express your own opinion on an article or a discussed issue, and instead of a discussion you get "-". You try to explain further, and then .... ATU HIS, ATU !!! After that, there is no desire to comment on anything for several days.

    And you "score" on all these disadvantages. There are always adequate people on the site who will not only support the discussion, but also sometimes discover something new for you that you do not know (and no one is given to know everything about everything). Do not pay attention to the "cons", especially if you yourself are 100% sure of what you wrote. Just a "minus" means that the one who "missed" you is, as they say, "not in the subject" (although his self-esteem and self-esteem can go off scale).

    Quote: Good Me
    Another, "reverse process" is also possible, which is confirmed by practice: the user begins to troll, drawing the interlocutor into a discussion on favorable terms for himself, using the method "PROVE IT!", While unceremoniously touching upon the themes of religion, interethnic relations and other "sore" issues ...

    I always used and use one rule. And here and on other sites / forums. "If you don't want to get an enemy (foe), never talk to strangers about three things: about women, religion and football."
    Therefore, participation in discussions on political branches I reduce to a minimum. I prefer to talk about "hardware"
  31. Million
    Million 15 October 2015 08: 51 New
    +1
    No wonder they say that brevity is the sister of talent! To read the multi-page thoughts of a person who is in no way involved in military service, or to the army in general, building its conclusions on unverified information from the Internet, no, thank you!
    PS.A title can be canceled
  32. akudr48
    akudr48 15 October 2015 08: 51 New
    +4
    Marshals added, and the quality of comments falls.

    Yes it is. Thanks to the author for paying attention.
    So far, the portal provides an opportunity to indicate only the quantity of "like - dislike" for any comment of any quality.

    One more indicator should be introduced - the quality of the commentary, since there are very reasoned and detailed remarks that are clearly useful, but which you disagree with, for example, for ideological reasons.
    Then one could put a "-" in the existing rating, and, nevertheless, put a "+" for the content or quality of the comment.

    Since everyone here is part of the armies of the sofa, and there are also sent Cossacks and traitors in the troops, it would be useful to introduce the sign "friend or foe" with criteria such as "patriot", "liberal", "statesman", "market man" or immediately "5th column", etc.
    Thus, the community of the portal would automatically be structured according to the specified criteria into divisions, regiments and battalions of their own and others.

    There is much to offer without getting off the couch.
    For example, sending, if necessary, companies of their patriots to the enemy’s websites, say on ECHO MOSCOW, to scout the situation and restore order there by force of argument.
    Or put the HBO team on a tank biathlon if HBO is a thinking tank, which is indisputable, in my opinion. Rogozin will be stunned looking at our victories ...
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 15 October 2015 10: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: akudr48
      Since everyone here is part of the armies of the sofa, and there are also sent Cossacks and traitors in the troops, it would be useful to introduce the sign "friend or foe" with criteria such as "patriot", "liberal", "statesman", "market man" or immediately "5th column", etc.

      Someone here has suggested for a long time to introduce the "shoot button .." Laughter laughter, but the point is in this! bully
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 October 2015 11: 53 New
        +2
        Someone here has suggested for a long time to introduce the "shoot button .." Laughter laughter, but the point is in this!


        So ban what? Just the three moderators are ready. So everything is according to the "laws of wartime".
      2. Manul
        Manul 15 October 2015 12: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Someone here has suggested for a long time to introduce the "shoot button .." Laughter laughter, but the point is in this!

        laughing Are the outfits out of turn?
        Maybe there is not enough elementary star shooting? Tucked up, minus a star without talking - this will be a warning. If it’s completely ordinary, it’s too much and not vital somehow, and it is used in very rare cases. And if you take off one at a time, this can often be brought up.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 15 October 2015 12: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Manul
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Someone here has suggested for a long time to introduce the "shoot button .." Laughter laughter, but the point is in this!

          laughing Are the outfits out of turn?
          Maybe there is not enough elementary star shooting? Tucked up, minus a star without talking - this will be a warning. If it’s completely ordinary, it’s too much and not vital somehow, and it is used in very rare cases. And if you take off one at a time, this can often be brought up.

          Well, Duc me "without trial and investigation", the shoulder straps were torn off and demoted to the rank of rank-and-file, I was in the "zindan" for a month in June ... In August, a heart attack from experience and grief crashed ... laughing laughing laughing Now he’s calm (sometimes he puts it on turns) So men don’t chase the rating .. Write what you think and analyze .. They always read good comments! hi
          1. Manul
            Manul 15 October 2015 12: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: MIKHAN

            Well Duc me "without trial", the shoulder straps were torn off and demoted to the rank and file, the rating for lam was, in "zindan" a month in June was sitting ... In August, a heart attack from experience and grief crashed ... Now he is calm (well, sometimes it brings cornering) So guys do not chase the rating .. Write what you think and analyze .. A good comment is always read!

            belay You, that .. You need to protect your health. Although I understand you - I have a similar situation in my life - after the affair I was expelled from the council where I had been for many years .. He grabbed my heart. So it’s heartless and cruel - to ban people and rip off shoulder straps, especially without warning. And I gave you a plus in the rating a long time ago, you’ve been a well-deserved marshal hi
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 15 October 2015 13: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Manul
              Quote: MIKHAN

              Well Duc me "without trial", the shoulder straps were torn off and demoted to the rank and file, the rating for lam was, in "zindan" a month in June was sitting ... In August, a heart attack from experience and grief crashed ... Now he is calm (well, sometimes it brings cornering) So guys do not chase the rating .. Write what you think and analyze .. A good comment is always read!

              belay You, that .. You need to protect your health. Although I understand you - I have a similar situation in my life - after the affair I was expelled from the council where I had been for many years .. He grabbed my heart. So it’s heartless and cruel - to ban people and rip off shoulder straps, especially without warning. And I gave you a plus in the rating a long time ago, you’ve been a well-deserved marshal hi

              Thank you Ilya! hi Take care of your heart .. Good luck!
    2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 15 October 2015 11: 24 New
      0
      I think not everyone wants to enroll in divisions, regiments, battalions. And to introduce their traitors among their "liberals" is already cool. Almost like a computer game. You have forgotten to divide people into whites and reds, nationalists and internationalists, zaputins and vsepapalschikov. And beat the pros and cons to a stupor. Sofa to sofa. Tryndets.
  33. ASK505
    ASK505 15 October 2015 08: 55 New
    -1
    Article on the merits. A plus. The level of communication needs to be raised. And "titles", as someone aptly noted earlier, "no more than feathers from the nth place."
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 15 October 2015 10: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: ASK505
      And "titles", as someone aptly noted earlier, "no more than feathers from the nth place."

      I was plucked, it was so luxurious ... laughing
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 15 October 2015 11: 55 New
      +2
      Article in essence. A plus. The level of communication needs to be raised.


      Again, the question is - how? The fascists were identified by the shape of the skull, the Jews are identified by the inimitable "grazing" in the word "time". How will we determine the level of the visitor on the VO?
  34. Oleko
    Oleko 15 October 2015 09: 24 New
    +2
    For the reasons stated above, I would prefer to remain in the “officer corps”, and since there is no other way to remain in the so-called “golden middle” (and sometimes you want to express your point of view), you, the users of the site, if not against it, put a minus for article, I will be very grateful to you, otherwise there is not much left to the “general”.

    "How good it is to be a general, how good it is to be a general, I will not name the best work for you, seniors ...". The impression is that many got carried away and the simple game of stars and shoulder straps began to be taken seriously. I read VO and comments with pleasure. But the trouble is, in the wallet of a civilian pensioner with a military specialty "Barrage and demining of railways" from the rank of sergeant and sergeant absolutely nothing will be added. Therefore - business time, fun hour. I get off the couch and go scrolling through the yoga complex. Good deal. I've been doing it for 25 years. The savings on medications and the absence of visits to doctors are worth it. Yes, and the faithful brought a projection. It is necessary to make "strength" and light in a three-story house. 18 apartments. So, members of the forum, all the best to you.
  35. 2s1122
    2s1122 15 October 2015 09: 39 New
    0
    I don’t know, my opinion is all right. Comments should be essentially based on personal experience and knowledge, but with humor.
  36. kirpich
    kirpich 15 October 2015 09: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And secondly, things will change soon



    I want to believe. Ah, then the rules say one thing, but in fact ... request
  37. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 October 2015 09: 56 New
    +1
    If anyone does not want to be a general, contact us, we decide ... We will agree! bully
  38. Jackking
    Jackking 15 October 2015 10: 03 New
    0
    The article is correct. The only caveat is that those who have marshal's and general's stars are most likely, in terms of military experience, to the sofa troops of Russia. To put it simply, after watching movies, they flaunt their "knowledge" in tactics and strategies on the forum ...
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 15 October 2015 10: 13 New
      0
      The only remark is that those who have marshal and general stars are most likely to relate to the divan troops of Russia in terms of military experience.

      I think the current generals are busy with other things or not?
  39. Ignatius
    Ignatius 15 October 2015 10: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: akudr48
    Marshals added, and the quality of comments falls.

    Yes it is. Thanks to the author for paying attention.
    So far, the portal provides an opportunity to indicate only the quantity of "like - dislike" for any comment of any quality.

    One more indicator should be introduced - the quality of the commentary, since there are very reasoned and detailed remarks that are clearly useful, but which you disagree with, for example, for ideological reasons.
    Then one could put a "-" in the existing rating, and, nevertheless, put a "+" for the content or quality of the comment.

    Since everyone here is part of the armies of the sofa, and there are also sent Cossacks and traitors in the troops, it would be useful to introduce the sign "friend or foe" with criteria such as "patriot", "liberal", "statesman", "market man" or immediately "5th column", etc.
    Thus, the community of the portal would automatically be structured according to the specified criteria into divisions, regiments and battalions of their own and others.

    There is much to offer without getting off the couch.
    For example, sending, if necessary, companies of their patriots to the enemy’s websites, say on ECHO MOSCOW, to scout the situation and restore order there by force of argument.
    Or put the HBO team on a tank biathlon if HBO is a thinking tank, which is indisputable, in my opinion. Rogozin will be stunned looking at our victories ...


    Very constructive suggestions. The organizers and moderators of the site should think about their implementation.
  40. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 15 October 2015 10: 24 New
    +3
    Such articles really regularly appear on the VO website, I’m already reading the third in two years and they’ll probably continue to appear, because new participants come and they seem to care about this issue, the author only registered in the summer. I think that this childhood illness will get big shoulder straps gradually, and the site colleagues will stop paying attention to these virtual shoulder straps and will pay attention to the essence of the comment, so I have colleagues whose comments I always read with respect and support shoulder straps they are different, but I don’t and never will have a black list.
    I’ll say a few words about Uri patriots with slogan comments, they too annoyed me at first, but then I thought, what if it’s just a schoolboy who went to the site and, in fact, he can’t write anything but slogans, and then there’s big guys with big shoulder straps they took it and put it in a corner (zamusunuyut, and even laughed), because we were all young and did not immediately learn to think, and so involuntarily he will begin to read articles and comments, think, analyze. And so, this guy leaves the site and ends up on some liberal site, where he will be bombed with brains and watch, another fan of false values ​​has appeared. Let's be tolerant, or something. I have always been an opponent of turning the VO site into a narrow club of great experts.
  41. Buffalo
    Buffalo 15 October 2015 11: 07 New
    +3
    I read an article by sagitch about the reluctance to grow in the rank, remembered a joke about Brezhnev.
    Citizens communicate with the Secretary General. One asks:
    - Leonid Ilyich, I heard that you traveled the whole world and collected all the awards. Brezhnev in response:
    - Yes, I have been to almost all countries. As for the awards, then here you are mistaken. I even recently had to refuse one of the highest awards of the African state!
    - What is this award?
    - A nose ring.
  42. Abbra
    Abbra 15 October 2015 11: 10 New
    +3
    If I were in the place of the creators of "VO", I would also give orders ... "For Wisdom", "For Wit", "For Foolishness" ... A lot of things you can think of. fellow
  43. Old warrior
    Old warrior 15 October 2015 12: 48 New
    +1
    Seriously measured by the epaulettes - ridiculously and stupid.
  44. The Sparkle
    The Sparkle 15 October 2015 13: 22 New
    0
    These ratings must be weighty or they become ridiculous.
    To give officer ranks only if you write articles for the site - for labor / service / contribution to the development of the site.
    And the rest / like me / let them run in the rank from private to foreman.
    And in general I did not serve - "unfit for peace, ...". Maybe then take off my shoulder straps? It will be quite comfortable for me to live in ordinary users.)))
    Moderators can also make a distinction from simply writing articles for the forum - how the guard differs from the combined arms unit.
    I had the status of a moderator on one of the sites, and I know this is hard work! But about warrant officers do not come up with ...)))
    That's all...)))
    The thought broke off.)))
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 15 October 2015 13: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Flame
      The thought broke off.)))

      Sorry .... I would still read ..)))) laughing
  45. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 15 October 2015 14: 47 New
    +1
    Likes, pros, cons, speakers, generals, etc. On some sites, the sale is going on, on others it is necessary to get into the stream in accordance with the line. Or maybe, as old Famusov said from an immortal work, paraphrasing a little: , pluses, etc.), and burn it. "
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 15 October 2015 15: 16 New
      0
      Yes, it’s been noticed for a long time, how karma is fastened to the resource, the pursuit of pluses begins hi
      (although, say, in ancient times FIDO plus, on the contrary, was a punishment winked )
  46. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 15 October 2015 15: 04 New
    0
    I also wanted to have the sergeant’s shoulder straps fixed to me, but alas ...
    And about the fact that there are only adults here, I don’t know. The old forum "rule of 10 schoolchildren" also works here laughing
  47. Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 15 October 2015 15: 10 New
    0
    there is a rational grain, I also agree when they start discussing how the spirits will smash the air base, it seems that the command does not know the tactics and fundamentals of military operations, does not have combat experience and does not take into account the experience of military operations in the DRA and the Czech Republic.
  48. Vadim12
    Vadim12 15 October 2015 15: 43 New
    0
    It seems to me that smart people are sitting in our General Staff. I think all possible options have been calculated, provided for in terms of safety and technology and personnel.
  49. Radikal
    Radikal 15 October 2015 17: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Lukich
    Quote: Mahmut
    And I am 100% sure that our common enemies will certainly take advantage of these “tips” in Syria.

    but I’m not sure that the terrorists from Syria are tracking the comments on the Military Review website. with all due respect to the site

    Yes, most likely just like that, just a few other people do it .... Trained.
  50. sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 15 October 2015 17: 55 New
    0
    health
    I personally come here for the sake of humor. I understand something in psychology .... I do not need titles.
    I want to note this site is not always read by ordinary people. officials meet, they need to make a decision, there are opinions for and against. need to weigh. who will weigh? analysts pay big money? what for ? here suck up and down. if you drain the water ... sometimes there may be nothing left in the dry residue. will we help Russia with our brains?
    further more. Of course, did you notice how America refers to Internet resources? then they are monitoring. So, like the Russian nomenclature, they work out and earn their bread. So the Western nomenclature collects their bread here. will we help the west?
    and beyond. eeeee nuuuu I will not talk about creating public opinion. I will say that any site can be used to create public opinion. for this you can create some articles with the help of which you can check the "calibration" of your thoughts, your arguments ....
    and so all is well beautiful marquise, all is well.