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Fleet not shamed

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Nobody expected such activeness from the Russian sailors in the Syrian conflict


The Russian fleet demonstrated a high level of combat readiness in Syria, not only having managed to create a fairly large grouping of ships in the Mediterranean, but also launched an effective missile attack on ground targets from 1500 kilometers, unexpectedly using small and relatively inexpensive ships of the near sea zone.

The first information about the beginning of the active operations of the Russian Navy was received on October 7, when it became known that a group of ships of the Caspian launched a missile strike flotilla Russian Navy on the objects of the "Islamic State". In the salvo, 26 Caliber-NK-type missiles were fired, which hit 11 targets in Syria controlled by the Islamic State armed forces.

Small but strong


It is worth a bit to dwell on which ships took part in this strike. Judging by the military composition of the Caspian Flotilla, it is the guard (rocket) ship “Dagestan” of the 11661 project (type “Cheetah”) and three small rocket ships of the 21631 project - “Grad Sviyazhsk”, “Uglich” and “Veliky Ustyug” (of the “Buyan- M ”). All of these ships each have an eight-cell DPS allowing the use of Caliber and Onyx missiles. There are no other ships in the Caspian flotilla that are armed with such a missile system. The launch of the 26 missiles means that the entire available shipboard personnel of the Caspian flotilla, armed with long-range cruise missiles of the Caliber-NK type (the largest ammunition load available on these four ships of the flotilla, is 32 missiles) was involved. This indicates a sufficiently high level of technical condition of the ship composition of the Caspian flotilla, at least that part of it, which is represented by new ships.

Fleet not shamed


In total, there are four units of guard (rocket) ships of the "Cheetah" type in the Russian Navy, two of which are part of the Caspian Flotilla. This is a multipurpose ship, which, with the full displacement of 1930 tons, has quite powerful armament. In addition to the above-mentioned eight-cell TLU for the Kalibr-NK CRDB, it has powerful electronic weapons, including highly efficient SIGMA ICS, Monolith RLC, which allows for the scouting of surface targets by means of active radar and radio intelligence, anti-aircraft weapons and anti-submarine weapons. In the Caspian Sea, this ship has no equivalent enemy. True, its anti-submarine capabilities in this theater of operations are hardly required, the shallow depths in most of the Caspian Sea do not allow the use of submarines.

Small missile ships of the “Buyan-M” type are more in tune with the peculiarities of the Caspian MTVD. With a significantly smaller displacement (949 tons) and draft, they carry the same strike armament as the Gepard-type ships, the TLV on eight cells for the Kalibr-NK missile defense system, have powerful 100-mm single-barrel AU A-190, allowing solve the problem of fire support troops on the coastal direction.

The flight trajectories of the rocket salvo they executed ran across Iran and Iraq. Moreover, the Iraqi sector took place for the most part over the territory controlled by the Islamic State. The missile overflight was agreed with the governments of Iraq and Iran through the newly created coalition focal point in Baghdad.

Consumption weapons to hit one target made up two or three missiles (on 11 targets 26 missiles). The flight time of missiles to targets could range from an hour to one and a half depending on the distance of the target and the chosen flight path, which was set individually for each missile, bypassing the air defense zones and areas of dense location of the armed forces of the Islamic State. With a high-explosive type warhead weighing 400 kilograms and an accuracy of five to seven meters, we can conclude that the targets were relatively small objects of the type of compactly located groups of buildings or reinforced concrete structures. Most likely, it could be the operational and strategic management points of the Islamic State, weapons and ammunition depots of central subordination, or military equipment repair companies. The fact that such a large number of objects was able to hit such a large number of weapons (as confirmed by objective control) testifies to the high technical reliability of the missiles themselves.

The missile salvo area was located in the southern part of the Caspian Sea. The time it takes for the ship strike group to advance to the area at the economic speed of 14 – 18 knots is 12 – 16 hours. Taking into account the time to return to the base, the preparation of flight missions for new missiles, the replenishment of ammunition and the return to the launch point, a re-salvo can take place in two to three days upon receipt of a relevant order and if there are enough such missiles in place doubt. It is absolutely clear that ships of the Caspian flotilla cannot exert fire influence on the militants of the “Islamic state” with other weapons.

Black Sea in readiness

In addition to the ships of the Caspian Flotilla, the formation of the Black Sea Fleet also takes part in hostilities against the Islamic State. True, while the Black Sea community did not enter into fire contact with the enemy, participating in these hostilities in a different way. Currently, there are five Russian warships in the northwestern part of the Mediterranean. However, in the first days of combat operations by the Russian group in Syria, their numbers were 15 units. The main part arrived in the area shortly before the start of the active phase of the fighting. The core is the shipboard shock group led by the 1164 project “Moscow” missile cruiser and including three escort ships - Ladny (1135 Ave), Pytlivy (1135M Ave) and Sharpy (01090 Ave).

In addition to this strike group in the Russian fleet near the coast of Syria, there was a combination of amphibious and support ships. Among them are four large amphibious ships (BDK): two 1171 projects (Saratov and Nikolai Filchenkov) and two 775 projects (Azov and Caesar Kunikov), a large naval tanker Ivan Bubnov, a shipmaster PM -56 "and auxiliary ship-keeper" KIL-158 ". In addition, in the Eastern Mediterranean zone deployed reconnaissance ship "Tatishchev."

The capabilities of the ship strike group are determined by the ship of its core - the missile cruiser “Moscow”. From the composition of its very diverse armaments, it is worthwhile to single out those systems that are most relevant for the solution of the tasks that were set for the shipboard strike group headed by them. This is primarily an anti-ship missile system "Vulkan", the missiles of which allow strikes against large enemy surface ships at a distance of 700 kilometers. With this weapon, the RKR "Moscow" is capable of crushing the NATO naval strike group consisting of a cruiser and two destroyers of URO. He is also capable of disabling an average aircraft carrier from a small-sized carrier group, such as, for example, the United Kingdom or France.

Other ships from the strike group cannot make a significant contribution to countering large surface forces or the defense of the Russian base due to the lack of appropriate weapons, without having long-range missile systems and having anti-aircraft fire to ensure only self-defense ship strike.

It should be particularly noted that in fact the entire ship structure of the Black Sea Fleet, capable of operating in the far sea zone, is sent to the Mediterranean Sea, which indicates that the level of technical serviceability of the ships is quite high. That is, over the previous two years, it was possible to carry out all the necessary repairs to restore the combat capability of the Black Sea Fleet.

The composition of the naval connection of Russia off the coast of Syria is changing regularly. So, part of the ship group, mainly landing ships, as well as the tanker left the Eastern Mediterranean. And on October 8 it became known that two ISCs - “Musson” and “Samum” passed the Bosphorus Strait, moving to the shores of Syria.

It is known from reliable sources that, in the future, the ship group from the Northern Fleet may also be sent to this area according to the plan of rotation of the ship. Thus, the Russian fleet takes a very active part in the hostilities in Syria, playing a key role in the logistics of the hostilities.
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  1. Geosun
    Geosun 14 October 2015 14: 03 New
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    I suggest using the fleet together with the Americans. They throw off weapons to the militants, we are waiting for them to approach him and the ROCKET !!!!
    1. Finches
      Finches 14 October 2015 14: 17 New
      17
      Надо же никто и подумать не мог про Каспийскую флотилию - а она за вымя потрогала, находясь во внутреннем, практически, море России, весь Ближней восток! Израиль грустит, Турция молчит, Алиев вообще молчит..., и где то очень грустит один чернокожий мальчонка, но грустит уже по взрослому -"Теодор Рузвельт" на всех парах улепетывает из региона... laughing
      1. pilot8878
        pilot8878 14 October 2015 15: 23 New
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        где то очень грустит один чернокожий мальчонка, но грустит уже по взрослому -"Теодор Рузвельт" на всех парах улепетывает из региона...

        Сомневаюсь я, что уход "Тедди" связан с "Калибрами".
        The second thing that caused some concern:
        With this weapon, the RKR “Moscow” is able to defeat the NATO naval strike group as part of the cruiser and two URO destroyers. He is also able to disable an average aircraft carrier from a small carrier group, such as, for example, the United Kingdom or France.
        Other ships from the strike group cannot make a significant contribution to countering large surface forces or the defense of the Russian base due to the lack of appropriate weapons, without having long-range missile systems and having anti-aircraft fire to ensure only self-defense ship strike.

        AUGs of France or Great Britain are unlikely to appear there, but to confront the AUGs of the USA, surface forces of the Black Sea Fleet are rather weak, considering
        that in fact the entire Black Sea Fleet, capable of operating in the far sea zone, was sent to the Mediterranean Sea, which indicates that the level of technical serviceability of the ships is quite high.

        But also about the insufficiency of forces and means.
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 14 October 2015 15: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: pilot8878
          that in fact the entire Black Sea Fleet, capable of operating in the far sea zone, was sent to the Mediterranean Sea, which indicates that the level of technical serviceability of the ships is quite high.
          But also about the insufficiency of forces and means.

          В принципе да. недостаточность у ЧФ налицо, особенно учитывая необходимость действия в Средиземном море. В то же время, собственно, в Бассейне Черного моря ситуация несколько иная. Здесь уже и береговая авиация и береговые войска с ПКР. да и американцам особого смысла направлять атомные авианосцы в ЧМ нет (и дело не в конвенции Монтрэ, что делает проблематичным проход таких кораблей через проливы). У нас есть "непотопляемый авианосец" Крым. А у них - Турция и Южная Европа(пуст с оговорками, но есть). Так что любой гипотетический конфликт - вещь комплексная. это и флот и авиация и много чего еще...
          1. pilot8878
            pilot8878 14 October 2015 16: 08 New
            +5
            Quote: Bronis
            I guess, yes. Black Sea Fleet deficiency is evident, especially considering the need for action in the Mediterranean Sea.

            Я и имел в виду действия в Средиземке. На ЧМ, конечно же, ситуация кардинально меняется, учитывая различные корабли, поддерживаемые береговой обороной. Но в свете желаний "померится пипи**ками" со стороны мирового гегемона за своё влияние на Средиземном море, как мне кажется настойчиво просится вывод о необходимости усиления ЧФ может быть и не столь монументальными, как РКР "Москва", кораблями, но имеющими такой состав вооружения, который бы усиливал флагмана и придавал КУГ возможность наносить удары по побережью.
            1. Bronis
              Bronis 14 October 2015 22: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: pilot8878
              усиления ЧФ может быть и не столь монументальными, как РКР "Москва", кораблями, но имеющими такой состав вооружения, который бы усиливал флагмана и придавал КУГ возможность наносить удары по побережью.

              по факту, такими кораблями и собираются перевооружать ЧФ. Прежде всего, это 6 фрегатов 11356. плюс минимум 3 буяна М. Как раз ПУ для "Калибра". С 11356 есть некоторые трудности в виду того, что ГЭУ - украинская. Но, вроде головной и два серийных введут в течение 15-16 гг. а дальше видно будет. Вообще по факту, именно ЧФ подлежит первоочередному перевооружению. 6 шт. ДЭПЛ, 6 шт. 11356 плюс энное кол-во корветов. плюс авиация.
        2. Altona
          Altona 14 October 2015 18: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: pilot8878
          AUGs of France or Great Britain are unlikely to appear there, but to confront the AUGs of the USA, surface forces of the Black Sea Fleet are rather weak, considering

          ---------------------
          To counter the potential enemy’s AUGs in the Mediterranean, there is an Tu-22M3 aviation group equipped with cruise missiles ... Or rather, it should have been presented earlier in the Crimea with Tu-16 and Tu-22 ...
    2. Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 14 October 2015 14: 18 New
      +4
      Молодцы братишки! Помните назидание дедов - "Гармонь пропью, но флот не опозорю"!
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 14 October 2015 14: 52 New
        +7
        Nuuuuu, now the Caspians are rejoicing with pride, otherwise the other fleets did not count them before and for the sailors. laughing soldier
      2. Drmadfisher
        Drmadfisher 15 October 2015 02: 31 New
        0
        I will drink the FRIGATE, but I will not disgrace the fleet (it was like that)
  2. Bronis
    Bronis 14 October 2015 14: 07 New
    +3
    In total, the Russian Navy has four units of the Cheetah type patrol (missile) ships, two of which are part of the Caspian Flotilla. This is a multi-purpose ship, which, with a full displacement of 1930 tons, has quite powerful weapons.
    in fact, there are only 2 pcs. and both in the Caspian. the rest were being built and are being built for Vietnam
    1. edge
      edge 15 October 2015 15: 29 New
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      Quote: Bronis
      in fact, there are only 2 pcs. and both in the Caspian. the rest were being built and are being built for Vietnam

      So far, 6 pieces will leave for Vietnam, but after such a demonstration, I think the number of orders will increase ... Russian animals can make any svoe keep themselves at a respectful distance - the Vietnamese skillfully figured out the options and picked up the best, as it turned out.
  3. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 14 October 2015 14: 08 New
    +3
    However, no matter how you say it, but pride goes through the roof for our Navy !!! drinks
  4. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 14 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +4
    It should be especially noted that in fact the entire composition of the Black Sea Fleet was sent to the Mediterranean Sea,

    And on the other hand, it turns out that the fleet has no reserves.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 14 October 2015 14: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      And on the other hand, it turns out that the fleet has no reserves.

      Unfortunately, they are not in any situation, what is with Syria, what is without. sad
  5. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 14 October 2015 14: 12 New
    +1
    Приятно читать о том ,что не умер флот как того желали "коллеги"! Да и останавливающий фактор на лицо.!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 October 2015 15: 00 New
      +8
      Quote: 3
      Приятно читать о том ,что не умер флот как того желали "коллеги"!

      But he’s not alive yet. Most of the ships in the fleets are still Soviet-built. And the fleet is aging. And our bureaucrats are running around with the mock-ups of the Flurry (destroyer) and the Leader in the exhibitions, they talk a lot about the first Russian aircraft carrier, about the new 5th generation submarines, but so far it doesn’t go further than mock-ups. We need new shipyards and people capable of professionally and quickly building ships of any displacement and complexity. Financing and technical base. And we are only at the beginning of this journey. In essence, we rejoice in the advances of our Moscow Region, which speaks of building Ash-trees before 20 years, as many as 7 pieces, on the modernization by 18 of Nakhimov, on submarines with anaerobic installations on the early start of the construction of Leaders and Shkvalov ... but for now these are just mock-ups and words. Forgive me, to my delight, I added a fly in the ointment. But not to say of this, it means not understanding the problems and tasks that will have to be addressed.
      1. Denis_469
        Denis_469 14 October 2015 22: 15 New
        +1
        The first nuclear submarine of the 5th generation has already been laid this year. And that’s all for now. That is what appeared on the Internet. The parallel construction of several types of nuclear submarines began at once. Next year, as was said, another 1-2 nuclear submarines of the 5th generation will be laid down. They won’t be able to, since the capacities are still clogged by the 4th generation and it needs to be built.
  6. Monos
    Monos 14 October 2015 14: 21 New
    +5
    Well, so far, the function of the naval grouping in the Mediterranean (except for displaying the flag and providing the ground component) is not clear to me. Well, I'm not a strategist. But the Caspians have clearly shown who is the boss in the house!
    1. edge
      edge 15 October 2015 15: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Monos
      so far, the function of the naval grouping in the Mediterranean (except for displaying the flag and providing the ground component) is not clear to me. Well, I'm not a strategist.

      ... it's simple, cut off the Amer fleet, create a military base, ensure the safety of caravans, ensure air defense, and keep a pack of Syrian friends behind the fence.
  7. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 14 October 2015 14: 25 New
    +5
    Small missile ships of the Buyan-M type are more consistent with the features of the Caspian MTVD.

    А сколько было с.рача на разных ресурсах и форумах по поводу целесообразности их строительства. А ведь они повторили триумф (намного больший сейчас)своего времени советских ракетных катеров (потопление египетскими РКА пр.183Р израильского ЭМ "Эйлат" в 1967 году). А если к этому прибавить, что их ("Буяны"), можно перебазировать по внутренним водным путям на любую позицию для стрельбы, где есть водоем (Балтика, ЧМ, внутренние озера или водохранилища), или например "по Псаки", в "Белорусское море" laughing , then naturally our partners have stupor and congruent dissonance.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 October 2015 14: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: surovts.valery
      And how many s.racha was there on various resources and forums about the appropriateness of their construction

      Not only about the feasibility of construction, but also about their receipt primarily in the Caspian.
      Противники "буянов" на этом ТВД рассматривали МРК, в основном, в противокорабельной роли - и делали вывод об избыточности такого числа "калибров": "There is no one to shoot there ... they have more PUs than targets ... etc.".
    2. edge
      edge 15 October 2015 15: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: surovts.valery
      можно перебазировать по внутренним водным путям на любую позицию для стрельбы, где есть водоем (Балтика, ЧМ, внутренние озера или водохранилища), или например "по Псаки", в "Белорусское море"

      and on the Neman, with the Dnieper will feel good (and in the future on the Danube)
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 14 October 2015 14: 40 New
    +1
    "Других кораблей в составе Каспийской флотилии, имеющих на вооружении такой ракетный комплекс"

    Плохо, что их вообще нет. Почти. На ЧФ, вроде, 2 "Буяна" проходят испытания. Надо срочно пополнять флот подобными кораблями.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 14 October 2015 14: 50 New
      +1
      Ну вообще то фрегаты 11356 так же вооружены "Калибрами". В течении года 3 шт должны на ЧФ прийти. 22350 так же, но их в ближайшее время только 1 предвидится. И потом не забывайте про Варшавянки а их 6 шт в ближайшее время будет (3 уже в строю), они так же вооружены. "Калибр" - комплекс универсальный!
      1. red_october
        red_october 14 October 2015 17: 22 New
        +1
        11356 3 СКР * 8 "Калибров" = 24 шт.
        22350 2 frigate * 16 calibers (like for the Black Sea Fleet, however, the 2 frigate of this project is intended) = 32 pcs.
        21631 2 МРК (как минимум) * 8 "калибров = 16 шт.
        636.3 6ДЭПЛ * 4 "калибра" = 24 шт.

        Итого (минимум) 96 "Калибров" в разных исполнениях (КР, ПКР)ожидается на ЧФ в 2016-2017 г.

        Вполне возможно, что и "Москву" в дальнейшем переоборудуют под "Калибры"
        1. Denis_469
          Denis_469 14 October 2015 22: 16 New
          +1
          No, if Moscow will be modernized, then only for Zircons. Most likely Ustinov is also being modernized under them.
  9. bmv04636
    bmv04636 14 October 2015 14: 41 New
    0
    I’m wondering, can such kids like Buyan-M from the rivers and reservoirs be able to launch rocket attacks?
    1. kote119
      kote119 14 October 2015 14: 52 New
      +1
      maybe there are no obstacles
  10. Samen
    Samen 14 October 2015 14: 42 New
    +4
    Ещё каких-то N-цать годков назад сложно было представить фразу: "флот воюющий в пустыне"... Однако вот оно: пожалуйста! Ещё КАК воюют!!!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 14 October 2015 14: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Semen
      Ещё каких-то N-цать годков назад сложно было представить фразу: "флот воюющий в пустыне"... Однако вот оно: пожалуйста! Ещё КАК воюют!!!

      Even a year ago, no one really could explain why so many RTOs are being built. Now 26 answers at once;).
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 14 October 2015 17: 08 New
        +1
        In the Baltic and Black, so far we will have enough of such ships, so that the adversary ob_s_ral_sya)) There is no need for more. And for the North and the Pacific, it’s time to build something more! Oh, sadness, sadness ..
    2. edge
      edge 15 October 2015 15: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Semen
      Ещё каких-то N-цать годков назад сложно было представить фразу: "флот воюющий в пустыне"..

      -Not, there was a submarine in the steppes ukrain .....
  11. Aroma77
    Aroma77 14 October 2015 14: 45 New
    +2
    But a shipbuilder foresaw the situation before our missiles flew there. Well done, it turned out prosaically.) Http://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/86469.html
  12. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 14 October 2015 14: 47 New
    +1
    It is known from reliable sources that in the future, a naval group from the Northern Fleet can be sent to this area according to the plan for the rotation of the ship’s composition.

    А ещё и не исключено - корабельная группа ТОФ. Где-то проскакивала инфа (ссылку найти не могу), но точно было, что корабли ВМФ готовы нанести артиллерийские удары по террористам (оказать артиллерийскую поддержку сирийской армии). По слухам, готовят на БС с Аденский залив (а там и Средиземка рядом) ЭМ "Быстрый" ТОФ. А это наряду, с осташимися в живых, на СФ ЭМ "Адмирал Ушаков" и на БФ ЭМ "Настойчмвый", а также "Москвой" и "Варягом", единственные корабли, способные эффективно и предназначенные работать по берегу своим 130-мм. главным калибром.
    will wait.
  13. Zomanus
    Zomanus 14 October 2015 14: 50 New
    0
    More such ships are needed. And new projects, such as missile platforms with a lot of UVP.
    So that 32 rockets could be released from one unit.
  14. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 14 October 2015 14: 51 New
    +1
    По-моему, на "буянах" по 6 ячеек, а на "Дагестане" 8 ячеек. 3х6 + 8= 26. Сумма и даёт 26 ракет в залпе. request
  15. Balagan
    Balagan 14 October 2015 14: 53 New
    +1
    Кто-либо в курсе, а речные флотилии, типа Амурской, могут использовать "Калибры"? Илу у нас эти флотилии похе...ли?
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 14 October 2015 17: 10 New
      +1
      Тут на форуме писали, что Калибр - прямой родственник Club'а, а его хоть с любой баржи запускай, только контейнер на нее установи))
    2. edge
      edge 15 October 2015 16: 03 New
      0
      Quote: booth
      речные флотилии, типа Амурской, могут использовать "Калибры"? Илу у нас эти флотилии похе...ли?

      All of these are alive, they are provided by the Amur Shipyard.
  16. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 14 October 2015 16: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: surovts.valery
    It is known from reliable sources that in the future, a naval group from the Northern Fleet can be sent to this area according to the plan for the rotation of the ship’s composition.

    А ещё и не исключено - корабельная группа ТОФ. Где-то проскакивала инфа (ссылку найти не могу), но точно было, что корабли ВМФ готовы нанести артиллерийские удары по террористам (оказать артиллерийскую поддержку сирийской армии). По слухам, готовят на БС с Аденский залив (а там и Средиземка рядом) ЭМ "Быстрый" ТОФ. А это наряду, с осташимися в живых, на СФ ЭМ "Адмирал Ушаков" и на БФ ЭМ "Настойчмвый", а также "Москвой" и "Варягом", единственные корабли, способные эффективно и предназначенные работать по берегу своим 130-мм. главным калибром.
    will wait.

    On which bank of 130 mm caliber are you going to work, are you our dreamer? The main targets in the depths of the mainland are where 130-mm artillery will not reach, no matter how 152-mm, too.
  17. Old26
    Old26 14 October 2015 19: 58 New
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    Quote: Mikado
    Тут на форуме писали, что Калибр - прямой родственник Club'а, а его хоть с любой баржи запускай, только контейнер на нее установи))

    Caliber is Club. They are not relatives. This is she.

    Quote: booth
    Кто-либо в курсе, а речные флотилии, типа Амурской, могут использовать "Калибры"? Илу у нас эти флотилии похе...ли?

    We do not have these fleets now.

    Quote: Rurikovich
    По-моему, на "буянах" по 6 ячеек, а на "Дагестане" 8 ячеек. 3х6 + 8= 26. Сумма и даёт 26 ракет в залпе.

    8 cells each. Standard launcher 3S14. They just didn’t release the entire ammunition for some reason. Or they released the whole, but reached the goal of 26. Nobody will say that ...

    Quote: Zomanus
    More such ships are needed. And new projects, such as missile platforms with a large number of UVP. That would be 32 missiles could be launched from one unit.

    God forbid at least fulfill those plans. what is. We will not talk about rocket platforms yet ...
  18. RUS69
    RUS69 14 October 2015 22: 19 New
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    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Mikado
    Тут на форуме писали, что Калибр - прямой родственник Club'а, а его хоть с любой баржи запускай, только контейнер на нее установи))

    Caliber is Club. They are not relatives. This is she.

    Quote: booth
    Кто-либо в курсе, а речные флотилии, типа Амурской, могут использовать "Калибры"? Илу у нас эти флотилии похе...ли?

    We do not have these fleets now.

    Quote: Rurikovich
    По-моему, на "буянах" по 6 ячеек, а на "Дагестане" 8 ячеек. 3х6 + 8= 26. Сумма и даёт 26 ракет в залпе.

    8 cells each. Standard launcher 3S14. They just didn’t release the entire ammunition for some reason. Or they released the whole, but reached the goal of 26. Nobody will say that ...

    Quote: Zomanus
    More such ships are needed. And new projects, such as missile platforms with a large number of UVP. That would be 32 missiles could be launched from one unit.

    God forbid at least fulfill those plans. what is. We will not talk about rocket platforms yet ...

    Well, plans seem to be fulfilling
    And if you take into account that this complex can be located in a regular container, the devil knows how many more of them are traveling around the country or at some wholesale base near the border of a potential partner wink
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  20. RUS69
    RUS69 14 October 2015 22: 23 New
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    The video is old but it's always nice to watch
  21. DOMINO100
    DOMINO100 15 October 2015 02: 38 New
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    Now I would have to launch a volley with submarines on the positions of Allahovbar, so to speak, in order to consolidate the excitement. To show my strength in a stronger way. But if you recall, Crimea took famously, the Ukrainians were knocked out, but then they did not fix the result. The result was a massacre in the east Ukraine. In my opinion. Here it is necessary to hammer that there is urine from all calibers. They only take power for courage. However, like the Americans.
  22. Old26
    Old26 15 October 2015 08: 23 New
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    Quote: DOMINO100
    Now I would have to launch a salvo with submarines on the positions of Allahovbar, so to speak, to consolidate the hype. To show my strength in a stronger way.

    Зачем? Что даст еще пуск четырех "Калибров"? Эффект был в неожиданности, а не в том, что КР поразили что-то недоступное для других средств поражения. А так придется гнать лодку в Средиземное море и для чего? Чтобы отстрелять 4 "Калибра"?

    Quote: RUS69
    Well, the plans seem to be fulfilling. And given that this complex can be located in a regular container, the devil knows how many more of them are traveling around the country or at some wholesale base near the border of a potential partner.

    В планах (пока) кроме строительства 4-х уже заложенных - строительство еще одного плюс опцион на два. То есть максимум 3 корабля. При самом лучшем раскладе к 2019-2020 будем иметь 10 таких кораблей. Плюс другие корабли. Но там все двигается не так хорошо, как хотелось бы. Из 9 заложенных корветов проекта 20380 в строю только 4. Из двух заложенных в 2012-2013 корветов проекта 20385 - ни одного (а хотим к 2020 построить 10), из 4-х заложенных фрегатов 22350 в строю пока один. Судьба строительства еще 2-4 не определена. Флот, разумеется пополняется, но очень незначительными темпами. Причем максимум, что такие корабли могут иметь - это до 16 ударных ракет. Что кончено не идет ни в какое сравнение с аналогичным вооружением наших "заклятых друзей"

    А насчет контейнеров... Мне кажется мы сами того не хотя открыли "ящик Пандоры". Но это совсем другой разговор