Benefit "caliber"

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A series of successful launches is only a prologue to the great work on the rocketization of the Russian Navy.

The successful launch of a massive missile strike on IG facilities in Syria by sea-based cruise missiles (SLCM) Kaliber was highly appreciated not only by ordinary citizens of Russia, but also by those who know in detail the real situation and complexities of the modern military-industrial complex and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

But let's start with the background. At the end of November 2012, in one of the basing points of the ships of the Red Banner Caspian flotilla - the city of Makhachkala hosted the ceremony of raising the naval flag of Russia on the latest missile ship Dagestan, project 11661K. A ship was accepted into the composition of the CCFL, which not only changed the combat capabilities of the flotilla as an operational association, but, one can safely say, significantly strengthened the state's position in the Caspian region.

"Dagestan" was the first ship in the Russian Navy, armed with the newest missile complex "Caliber-NK", designed to launch rocket attacks on targets at a distance of 2600 kilometers. With the sea-based cruise missiles of such a range in service, the Red Banner Caspian Flotilla can already solve not only operational, but also operational-strategic tasks.

Rocket complex "Caliber" conducts its history since the 70-ies, with the cruise missile "Granat". The "Grenade" clash allowed at the turn of the end of the 80-x to raise the issue of developing missiles with sharply improved performance characteristics.

In 90-s, the leaders of the Novator Design Bureau “P. Kamnev and V. Volman were able to preserve and develop the resulting backlog by creating the CLUB family of export cruise missiles.

With the opening of full funding for research and development of the Navy, using the experience gained at the CLUB complex, as well as saved and trained young personnel, work continued on the creation of missiles for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, including the Caliber complex for the Navy.

In general, the nomenclature of missiles is as follows.

Anti-ship missiles


3MW.COM. .

3M-54KEUD (3M-54TEUD) 3M-54KE1UD (3M-54TE1UD) 3M-54KEUS (3M-54EUS) 3M-54E1US, 3M-54KERM (3M-54TERM) and 3M-54KE1RM (3M-54TE1RM) - respectively training and operating bench (for training in refueling with liquid fuel) and training split models of missiles from the PF complex, placed in a transport / launch container / cup for training and practicing the practical skills of personnel on the operation and maintenance of missiles.

3М-54КЭГВМ and 3М-54ТЭГВМ are dimensional and weight models intended for training personnel in loading and unloading operations.

Missiles against ground targets


3М-14К / 3М-14Т (3М-14КЭ / 3М-14ТE) is a standard configuration missile with a high-explosive warhead placed in a transport / launch container / cup.

3M - 14KEU The composition of the TCB complex, placed in the transport and launch container / cup for training and practicing the practical skills of personnel in the operation and maintenance of missiles.

3M-14ТЭГВМ - weight-dimensional layouts designed for training personnel handling.

Anti-submarine missiles

Rocket torpedo 91Р1 (91РЭ1).

Rocket torpedo 91РТ2 (91РТЭ2).

Indexes

"K" - missiles are in transport and launch containers.

"T" - missiles are in transport and launch glasses for submarines.

"E" - export execution (due to restrictions under international treaties).

Separately, it is necessary to dwell on the features of the high-precision cruise missile 3М-14Э. It is intended for destruction in simple and complex weather conditions by day and night of stationary (sedentary) land and sea targets. Typical targets for the 3М-14E rocket are ground command posts, weapons and fuel depots, airfield and port facilities.

The 3М14Э rockets in various configurations are included in:

- Club-S missile system for submarine armament;
- Club-N missile system for arming surface ships;
-Mobile rocket complex Club-M;
rocket complex weapons Aviation-based Club-A.


The Club-S complex’s missiles are launched from standard 534 millimeter-sized submarine torpedo tubes or vertical launch installations from 30 – 40 meters, and the Club-N complex from below-deck standardized vertical 3C-14E launchers or deck inclined PS-14PE.

Benefit "caliber"


According to the US / NATO classification, the 3М-14 rocket was designated SS-N-30. The 3M-14E cruise missile is equipped with a starting solid-fuel engine, in the tail section of which there are lattice stabilizers. TRDD-50B propulsion engine is a small-sized dual-circuit turbojet, unified for all Caliber missiles developed by the Omsk Engine-Building Design Bureau (OMKB OJSC). The 3M-14E rocket is equipped with a combined guidance system. In-flight rocket control is completely autonomous. The on-board control system is based on the autonomous inertial navigation system AB-40E (developed by the State Research Institute of Instrument Engineering). The rocket control system includes a radio altimeter of the type RVE-B (developed by UPKB “Detail”) and a satellite navigation system receiver (GLONASS or GPS). The radio altimeter provides a flight in the rounding mode of the terrain by precisely keeping the flight altitude: no more than 20 meters above the sea, no more than 50 to 150 meters above land (approaching the target to 20 m).

The flight of missiles passes along a previously laid route in accordance with intelligence data regarding the target position and the availability of air defense systems. The missiles are able to overcome the zones of the developed enemy air defense system, which is ensured by extremely low flight altitudes with rounding of the terrain and autonomy of guidance in the “silence” mode on the main leg. Correction of the rocket flight trajectory on the march segment is probably carried out according to the satellite navigation subsystem and the terrain correction subsystem. The principle of operation of the latter is based on a comparison of the terrain of a particular area where the rocket is located with reference maps of the terrain along its flight route, previously stored in the memory of the onboard control system. Navigation is performed along a complex trajectory, the rocket has the ability to bypass strong enemy air defense / missile defense zones or difficult terrain sections by entering the coordinates of the so-called turning points of the route into the flight task.

The target trajectory is guided by the anti-jamming active radar homing head ARGS-14E, which effectively highlights subtle, small-sized targets against the background of the underlying surface. The head ARGS-14E with a diameter of 514 of millimeters and a weight of 40 kilograms was developed by JSC NPP Radar MMS (St. Petersburg), has a viewing angle in azimuth (bearing) ± 45 °, in elevation - from + 10 ° to -20 ° . The detection range of a typical target is about 20 kilometers. Exceptional maneuverability allows you to accurately bring a rocket to the target.



The 3M-14E missile is equipped with a powerful 450-kilogram high-explosive warhead with the option of an air blast. A variant of the rocket with a cluster warhead, completed with fragmentation, high-explosive or cumulative striking elements for striking at areal and extended targets.

The flight range of the export version of the rocket is limited to 300 kilometers. For the Russian Navy, the range, according to media reports of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, is 2600 kilometers.

The first launch of this type of rocket took place from the side of the Republic of Kazakhstan "Dagestan" in the spring of 2012. In September, 2012-th "Dagestan" re-launched the SLCM, successfully hitting the coastal target. After these shooting complex was adopted by the Russian Navy.

The main advantages of the complex "Caliber-NK":

-the ability to destroy marine and coastal objects;
-long range and shooting accuracy;
-the possibility of placing the complex on ships of various types, which allows you to effectively solve problems in the composition of the ship's shock groups.


RK "Caliber-NK" entered into service of the newest small rocket ships (MRK) of the project 21631 of the type "Buyan-M", accepted into the Caspian flotilla this year.

From the end of 2013 in the Caspian Sea, the newest IRCs of the 3 rank “Grad Sviyazhsk” and “Uglich” of the 21631 project built by the Zelenodolsk CVD began to be tested. They successfully launched the SLCM in the Caspian Sea. The IRCs of the 21631 project are armed with RK Caliber-NK eight cruise missiles each. The third ship of this project, the Velikiy Ustyug MRK, is already part of the Caspian flotilla.

The series of launch of the SLCM 3М-14 from the ships of the Caspian Flotilla on the Syrian ISIS facilities (total 26 missiles launched) is really a big and significant victory. The Russian Navy has demonstrated in practice the presence of a powerful, high-precision instrument of non-nuclear deterrence and the destruction of remote targets. However, the event has an undistinguished side.

Despite the massive deliveries of SLCMs for export, the Navy actually blew off its rearmament (mass rocketization, let's say so) at a time when the budget allowed it to be done without undue effort. The task and so it is necessary to solve. But now in the midst of a severe economic crisis. The holiday took place, but the question arises: what next?

And then we need blood from the nose to accelerate the mass equipping of the Navy with modern high-precision missiles with the task of not just multiplying the rocket volley, but increasing it more than an order of magnitude. And it is necessary to solve this problem in the conditions of crisis and sanctions, which will require unconventional and tough decisions, up to and including a significant revision of the fleet equipment program. The existing one raises too many questions.

For example, the Pacific Fleet, until the launch of the 949AM project at the Irkutsk nuclear missile system, remains without carriers of non-nuclear SLCMs. At the same time, there are a number of very serious operational problems in this theater, which cannot be solved without using a powerful salvo of SLCMs.

There are questions about the optimal structure of the SLCM carriers by fleets. For example, the effect of 7’s October 2015 attack on ISIS facilities would be significantly greater if submarines of the Black Sea and Northern fleets equipped with Kalibr PK were connected to it from the Mediterranean.

Today, the most decisive actions are needed to give the Navy a real impact non-nuclear potential, up to the adjustment of previously made decisions (LG, Shipbuilding Program, R & D), changes in the structure and distribution of the ship. In order to reduce the cost of creating a powerful group of CBMDs, an accelerated development of the “Big Caliber” is needed (which, according to expert estimates, provides a reduction in the cost of solving problems by about three to four times compared to conventional SLCMs).

In general, we are still only at the beginning of work on the re-equipment of the Russian Navy.
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  1. -10
    18 October 2015 06: 44
    -long range and shooting accuracy;

    KR accuracy has always been their Achilles heel. How is this problem solved in the described sample? TERCOM, GPS, Glonass, feedback link?
    1. +14
      18 October 2015 06: 55
      And you Professor, for what purpose are you interested? Or did you get a new assignment at the kibbutz?
      1. +11
        18 October 2015 07: 02
        Quote: KOMA
        And you Professor, for what purpose are you interested? Or did you get a new assignment at the kibbutz?

        In order to expand horizons.
        Cruise missile navigation methods


        PS
        It would also be interesting to see the moment and results of the strike. We all saw a launch and even a fly over Kurdistan, but hitting a target ...
        1. +15
          18 October 2015 09: 06
          Professor, I see you have already been demoted to colonels! And the marginalized are gaining plus signs, with simple phrases with the mention of "matzo", "kibbutz", "diapers" and "no analogue in the world." Nothing in the world is changing, at least for the better. Fools, flatterers and bawlers, as in all times, are held in high esteem ..
          1. +2
            19 October 2015 16: 40
            Quote: Tlauicol
            Professor, I see you have already been demoted to colonels! And the marginalized are gaining plus signs, with simple phrases with the mention of "matzo", "kibbutz", "diapers" and "no analogue in the world."

            It’s just that the professor does not comment on Saturday, and his rating sags due to the Sabbath))))
    2. +5
      18 October 2015 07: 50
      GLONASS.GPS your allies distort over the theater.
      1. +8
        18 October 2015 09: 34
        Only the jeepies signal is distorted, our GLONASS signalist - we ourselves produce it, no one can distort or jam it over the whole of Syria. The guidance system is most likely inertial with glanass / jeepies correction; in the last section, it is most likely an RCCH or less likely optical head.
        1. +10
          18 October 2015 09: 35
          Quote: Malkor
          in the last section, most likely, the RCCHS or the optical head is less likely.

          There is no optical seeker there
          Active radar homing head ARGS-14E
          1. +7
            18 October 2015 10: 01
            Quote: professor
            Active radar homing head ARGS-14E [/ leech]

            Professor! The letter E after the numbers indicates that this is an EXPORT option. You see, export. And what is on our Caliber, I think so is not subject to disclosure.
            1. +2
              18 October 2015 10: 54
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Quote: professor
              Active radar homing head ARGS-14E [/ leech]

              Professor! The letter E after the numbers indicates that this is an EXPORT option. You see, export. And what is on our Caliber, I think so is not subject to disclosure.

              We read the article: Guidance on the final section of the trajectory is carried out using an anti-interference active radar homing head ARGS-14E, effectively distinguishing subtle small targets against the background of the underlying surface.
              1. +8
                18 October 2015 12: 47
                KR accuracy has always been their Achilles heel. How is this problem solved in the described sample? TERCOM, GPS, Glonass, feedback link?

                We are reading an article: Guidance on the final section of the trajectory is carried out using the ARGS-14E interference-protected active radar homing head, which effectively distinguishes subtle small-sized targets against the background of the underlying surface.

                the professor asks questions to himself, and he himself answers them ...
                1. +2
                  18 October 2015 12: 52
                  Quote: mirag2
                  the professor asks questions to himself, and he himself answers them ...

                  I re-read it again. Where's the answer?
                  How does a navigation system bring a missile into the target area? Inertial with satellite correction? Is that all?
                  How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?
                  1. +3
                    18 October 2015 15: 05
                    Professor and you don’t think that you stick your nose out of your business?
                  2. +7
                    18 October 2015 16: 08
                    Quote: professor
                    How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?

                    The image of the evil igilovite is laid, flies and looks for him, if you have a beard, then better shave off.
                    As they generally flew to Syria and did not get lost in the mountains, almost 150 times changed the direction of flight.
                    1. +1
                      18 October 2015 19: 04
                      Quote: saturn.mmm
                      The image of the evil igilovite is laid, flies and looks for him, if you have a beard, then better shave off.

                      The problem is that it flies very low. Who will she have time to see from such a height? wink
                      1. +1
                        18 October 2015 20: 19
                        Quote: professor
                        Who will she have time to see from such a height?

                        Seriously, the coordinates were laid, according to Glonass, did she find them, or highlighted them, or set the beacons, is there any problem with this?
                      2. -3
                        18 October 2015 20: 25
                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        Seriously, the coordinates were laid, according to Glonass, did she find them, or highlighted them, or set the beacons, is there any problem with this?

                        Of course have. Satellite navigation will be jammed with interference. Backlighting is not implemented IMHO. Many millionth rocket "hang" on a soldier with a laser? Beacon, you need to climb onto the bunker and install the beacon.
                      3. +1
                        18 October 2015 23: 35
                        Quote: professor
                        Satellite navigation clogged with interference.

                        That is, Israeli drones will not score and a Russian missile will be hit. What makes you think they’ll score?
                        What’s wrong with the fighter, he could set the backlight a month ago, you can light it from the drone, hang the beacon on your favorite ram’s ram, this can be done in a complex if the rocket is very expensive for sure.
                        There are astronavigation, laser gyroscopes, mapping.
                      4. +1
                        19 October 2015 06: 33
                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        That is, Israeli drones will not score and a Russian missile will be hit. What makes you think they’ll score?

                        And the Israeli drone will be killed if desired, but such ammunition is not dangerous for electronic warfare.


                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        What’s wrong with the fighter, he could set the backlight a month ago, you can light it from the drone, hang the beacon on your favorite ram’s ram, this can be done in a complex if the rocket is very expensive for sure.

                        All wrong. This soldier must be from the local majahideen in order to penetrate unnoticed on the object. And there are 26 of them?

                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        There are astronavigation, laser gyroscopes, mapping.

                        Well? How did they aim here?
                      5. +2
                        19 October 2015 07: 37
                        Quote: professor
                        Well? How did they aim here?

                        They didn’t point but set the coordinates, the image of the target
                        Quote: professor
                        All wrong. This soldier must be from the local majahideen in order to penetrate unnoticed on the object. And there are 26 of them?

                        Why climb onto an object for highlighting?
                        It’s not necessary to be present near the laser itself.
                  3. +3
                    18 October 2015 16: 12
                    Quote: professor
                    How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?

                    And why do you need to RECOGNIZE? The GLONASS marker coincided with the standard laid down in the program and Voila! However, radio beacons can also be switched on remotely a few minutes before the lionfish arrives .. Nobody canceled the intelligence reconnaissance ...
                    1. +1
                      18 October 2015 19: 10
                      Quote: zennon
                      The GLONASS marker coincided with the standard laid down in the program and Voila

                      Such expensive missiles do not rely on satellite navigation, which the enemy can clog with.

                      Quote: zennon
                      ! However, radio beacons are also possible to be switched on remotely a few minutes before the lionfish arrives .. Nobody canceled the intelligence reconnaissance ...

                      Perhaps, but not much is real. It is not too reliable to rely on a bearded man who should put a beacon in the headquarters of the enemy.
                      1. +2
                        18 October 2015 19: 36
                        Quote: professor
                        Perhaps, but not much is real.

                        Why the bearded man? The GRU's reputation is very serious and respected. Yes, I am simply convinced that our people have been working there for many years, given the severity of the conflict and long-standing ties with Syria. But as soon as there are doubts, it would not be a bad idea to ask how Is this problem solved in BGM-109 Tomahawk? It is reported that they also have a trajectory correction system for the image of the terrain AN / DPW-23 of the "McDonnell Douglas" corporation of the TERCOM type ("Terrain Contour Matching") + SINS LN-35 (on KLG), that is, a laser gyroscope. Here is our KM-11-1A produced by the Research Institute "Polyus". Well, at the final section there are digital maps of the area + Infrared GOSN. It is considered that in Russia the processing system, that is, the digitization of space images, is one of the best.
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                  5. 0
                    18 October 2015 16: 46
                    Quote: professor
                    I re-read it again. Where's the answer?


                    By and large, you yourself answered, it flies to the target along Glonass, on the final one, most likely there is a map of the area in the corresponding radiation range and the final aiming is already done there.
                  6. +4
                    18 October 2015 17: 09
                    How does a navigation system bring a missile into the target area? Inertial with satellite correction? Is that all?


                    The right question.
                    I think that it is he who is worrying many headquarters now.
                    Also, I think that is why he will remain unanswered. wink
                  7. 0
                    18 October 2015 20: 02
                    Quote: professor
                    How does a navigation system bring a missile into the target area? Inertial with satellite correction? Is that all?
                    How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?

                    If the system is combined, then in the final section for recognizing the target, Glonas can be used - for adjustment, or in general something exotic for the RC up to (in the order of delirium) until the target is illuminated in one way or another.
                  8. 0
                    18 October 2015 22: 51
                    How does a navigation system bring a missile into the target area? Inertial with satellite correction? Is that all?
                    How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?


                    May is humble to think Americans help. E-8 Ji-star flew, everything took a picture in RL mode. On this map and fly with an active radar-seeker! wassat
                    And they swear and blew twists to disguise.

                    This is a conspiracy!
              2. +4
                18 October 2015 15: 52
                Quote: professor
                Guidance on the final portion of the trajectory is carried out using the ARGS-14E interference-protected active radar homing head, which effectively distinguishes subtle small targets against the background of the underlying surface.

                Well, the journalists we still have are those peppers, for example, in the central news on RTR, the announcer proudly explained that the letters SM in the name of the Su-30SM aircraft designate are super maneuverable.
                1. mvg
                  +1
                  18 October 2015 20: 57
                  And on the "rambler" did not look, what are the 5 most deadly weapons? Quiet horror! Just like before that they "drew" that the Su-25 is an interceptor .. So the central media do not bother ... And the "professor" should not ..
                  I think that we are flying along the markers .. Inertial, adjusted by GPS \ Glonass leads to the goal, make a slide, about 150 meters, look around, see the marker ... (maybe we map) and attack. Maybe even a laser backlight.
          2. +2
            18 October 2015 10: 39
            Recently, there was no such 2600km range. wink
          3. 0
            18 October 2015 20: 50
            This is on the RCC (3M-54 which)
    3. +7
      18 October 2015 08: 08
      Quote: professor
      -long range and shooting accuracy;

      KR accuracy has always been their Achilles heel. How is this problem solved in the described sample? TERCOM, GPS, Glonass, feedback link?

      Contact OKB "Novator". There they will tell you everything at once.
    4. +16
      18 October 2015 11: 38
      Guys !!! Clean-neighing !!! ....
      "Pavel Felgenhauer, referred to in the press as" a Russian military observer and analyst "(by the way, a biologist by education), brought the quilted jackets to clean water: it turns out that the" Caliber "missiles with which Russia scared the whole world are DISPOSABLE. Disposable, Karl!

      Quote:
      "In general, these missiles are not very new, since they were developed back in the 70s in response to the emergence of corresponding American technologies. Americans have been using similar technologies for over 20 years. However, there is one catch. These missiles have a very small turbojet engine with a very small motor resource, since it is a one-time use. Moreover, these engines were still produced at the Zaporozhye plant "Motor-Sich". "

      Here it is, it turns out! In bad cotton missiles, the engine has a small engine life! Not like the good American Tomahawks, who, apparently, according to Pasha Felgenhauer, make many sorties to the targets, time after time, time after time. Check and check, cotton!
      rented from a peekaboo wassat
      1. +2
        18 October 2015 13: 50
        Well, yes. I agree. To quote Felgenhauer here is the same as arguing about Rachmaninoff or Rimsky-Korsakov with Iggy Pop.
    5. +1
      18 October 2015 16: 01
      Quote: professor
      How is this problem solved in the described sample?

      ANN + RLGSN.
    6. +2
      18 October 2015 19: 45
      Quote: professor
      KR accuracy has always been their Achilles heel. How is this problem solved in the described sample? TERCOM, GPS, Glonass, feedback link?

      Here, most likely, a combined method. The only thing - GPS should be sweep away immediately.
      Apparently, the accuracy achieved is not bad - at least, statements that some missiles missed, fell, etc. turned out to be fake.
      1. -5
        18 October 2015 19: 53
        Quote: andj61
        Apparently, the accuracy achieved is not bad - at least, statements that some missiles missed, fell, etc. turned out to be fake.

        Fake? Did you see the targets before, during and after the strikes?
        1. +2
          18 October 2015 20: 20
          Quote: professor
          Quote: andj61
          Apparently, the accuracy achieved is not bad - at least, statements that some missiles missed, fell, etc. turned out to be fake.

          Fake? Did you see the targets before, during and after the strikes?

          Yes, even those who reported it admitted it; at first they said that 4 missiles fell in Iran with reference to "a source in the Pentagon", then a Pentagon spokesman said that they did not have such data, and the Iranians said that the missiles did not fall. And no one has provided any evidence of missile missiles, so a detailed video report of each missile's flight seems to be unnecessary - the missiles hit where they were aiming. bully hi
          Who can - let him try to prove the opposite, it will be interesting to look at the arguments. laughing
          1. -2
            18 October 2015 20: 28
            Quote: andj61
            And no one presented any evidence of missed missiles.

            Just as no one provided evidence of a hit.

            Quote: andj61
            So a detailed video report on the flight of each missile seems to be not required - the missiles hit where they were aiming.

            In god we trust; all others must bring data.

            Quote: andj61
            Who can - let him try to prove the opposite, it will be interesting to look at the arguments.

            request
        2. 0
          18 October 2015 22: 58
          Apparently, the accuracy achieved is not bad - at least, statements that some missiles missed, fell, etc. turned out to be fake.
          Fake? Did you see the targets before, during and after the strikes?


          Don’t bother! In 10 years after the completion of all cases everything will be clear and understandable. But in real time there is no truth.

          Or do you still have photos of targets before, during and after strikes?
          Then the photo is in the studio!
    7. 0
      18 October 2015 20: 49
      TERCOM + Glonass
    8. Dam
      0
      19 October 2015 08: 24
      I will answer with a quote from Mango Mango: "we have such rockets, but we will not tell you about them."
  2. 0
    18 October 2015 06: 49
    more, would such ships, with such missiles !!! they can also go to the Baltic and the World Cup (inland seas)?
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 23: 03
      more such ships, with such missiles !!! they can also go to the Baltic and the World Cup (inland seas)?


      The Green Dol and Grad Sviyazhsk declared for the Caspian will go to the Black Sea Fleet.
      It was said at the meeting of "Novorossiysk" in Novorossiysk.
  3. +6
    18 October 2015 08: 07
    it was necessary to send the crews in advance to the goals of the Caliber so that everyone in 3D would shoot as expected)
    1. +2
      18 October 2015 08: 20
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      it was necessary to send the crews in advance to the goals of the Caliber so that everyone in 3D would shoot as expected)

      The film crew is already there. One group carries out reconnaissance and target designation, and the other (sometimes the same) analyzes the results of the attack. Drones seem to have, where is the picture? At least such.
      1. +5
        18 October 2015 09: 06
        Yeah, I’m probably in a terrorist television station, about two thousand people and a couple of ammunition trucks were parked?
        1. -6
          18 October 2015 09: 07
          Quote: Kos_kalinki9
          Yeah, I’m probably in a terrorist television station, about two thousand people and a couple of ammunition trucks were parked?

          This is what your General Staff calls the "command post of terrorists."
          1. +3
            18 October 2015 10: 18
            that is most likely the same as your general staff!
          2. +4
            18 October 2015 12: 48
            Yes, not for this they were launched. All these targets and from the air could hit. It was a demonstration of opportunities. I think that the lap-eared curators of ISIS carefully read the results and draw conclusions. What is in the media, then let it be on the conscience of journalists and PR specialists. Probably, the accuracy turned out to be sufficient, once conclusions are drawn. Why did they take off the aircraft carrier? And in general, they began to hear Russia.
            1. 0
              18 October 2015 13: 14
              The aircraft carrier has been without a shift for six months and is scheduled for repairs. and now he drove off to the Bay of Bengal, where he conducted the planned exercises with the Indians and Japanese (which the Indians reported back in July). This is One!

              back in August, Russian newspapers reported that Roosevelt would leave the Persian Gulf in October, and in winter he would be replaced by Truman. This is Two!

              What does Caliber have to do with it? Yes, and not RCC?
            2. +8
              18 October 2015 15: 13
              "It was a demonstration of the possibilities" ///

              I agree that it was a demonstration of power intended for the Americans.
              Demonstration of long-range precision weapons - an analogue of the Tomahawk rocket.
              The demonstration was a success.
              They replace aircraft carriers strictly according to the rotation plan, this attitude to Caliber
              does not have.
              1. 0
                18 October 2015 19: 09
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Demonstration of long-range precision weapons - an analogue of the Tomahawk rocket.
                The demonstration was a success.

                Here is the answer to all the questions of the professor. What is the difference how, the main thing is what happened. By the way, I think that they got where they wanted, even despite the lack of video.
                1. +1
                  18 October 2015 19: 24
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  By the way, I think that they got where they wanted, even despite the lack of video.

                  Where did the headquarters get there? wink
                  1. 0
                    18 October 2015 20: 22
                    Quote: professor
                    Quote: shuhartred
                    By the way, I think that they got where they wanted, even despite the lack of video.

                    Where did the headquarters get there? wink

                    That's right - and who can prove otherwise? bully
                  2. 0
                    19 October 2015 04: 54
                    Professor, they hit the mark, judging by your attempt at trolling, and judging by the fact that our "partners" noticed and appreciated everything. So the accuracy is sufficient. The tasks of the CD are different - overcoming enemy air defenses and solving strategic tasks with the help of nuclear warheads. All other mass launches of the CD are an attempt to solve the problem of intimidating a potential enemy. As your compatriot noted and absolutely correctly noted: it is much cheaper, and therefore more effective, to solve the problem of destroying enemy targets on the territory of Syria using the aviation forces located there. Yes, yes. So the RCs were solving a different problem and I think they hit more than they missed, judging by the objects at which they were tagged ...) Before the launch of the missiles, you as an object were in a different state, after the launch from professional curiosity you got nervous ...
  4. +2
    18 October 2015 08: 13
    . Say, the effect of the October 7 impact of the year 2015 on ISIS facilities would be substantially greater if the submarines of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets, equipped with the Caliber RK, were connected to it from the Mediterranean Sea.


    I think that the effect has turned out that way. Merikatosov is still a sausage! laughing
  5. +2
    18 October 2015 08: 15
    Thanks to the author of the article-educated!
  6. +2
    18 October 2015 08: 59
    "And then we need blood from our nose to accelerate the mass equipping of the Navy with modern high-precision missiles with the task of not just increasing the missile salvo several times, but increasing it by more than an order of magnitude."
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 10: 20
      so this issue has long been dealt with by the already unforgettable sergeych Nikita!
  7. 0
    18 October 2015 09: 12
    The target trajectory is guided by the anti-jamming active radar homing head ARGS-14E, which effectively highlights subtle, small-sized targets against the background of the underlying surface. The head ARGS-14E with a diameter of 514 of millimeters and a weight of 40 kilograms was developed by JSC NPP Radar MMS (St. Petersburg), has a viewing angle in azimuth (bearing) ± 45 °, in elevation - from + 10 ° to -20 ° . The detection range of a typical target is about 20 kilometers. Exceptional maneuverability allows you to accurately bring a rocket to the target.

    On the marching section of the flight, everything is clear - inertial guidance with correction according to the flight mission. It is not clear to me with the final section of the flight, but specifically with aiming at the target. As I understand it, the radar homing system turns on automatically after a certain number of kilometers, depending on the range of the target. The coordinates of the target (as I understand it) are entered in advance, as are the turning points. Question to the experts: considering that guidance at the final stage through the radar detection system, does the target have to be radio-contrast or is it possible to undermine the warhead in accordance with the flight mission at a certain point in the terrain?
    1. +6
      18 October 2015 12: 17
      Quote: figter
      guidance at the final stage through the radar navigation system, must the target be radio-contrast or is it possible to undermine the warhead in accordance with the flight mission at a certain point in the terrain?
      Hello, Zhenya.
      For the operation of the RLGSN, a radar-contrasting target is needed. It can be a large building, a well-defined * benchmark * or something else that you can * attach to *.
      Question: you when broadcasting on a box SUCH seen? -- No!
      What did we see? - A flat underlying surface over a well-camouflaged object of impact (CP, bunker, etc.). That is * catch on * RLGSN - nothing.
      But what else have we seen? TLV broadcast from the target location, with the TLV visor (* crosshair * in the frame), and this indicates that the CC was provided from the drone above the object, probably a laser ...
      I do not exclude that the illumination could be from the ground, ground advanced aircraft guides ...
      But the fact that before the Caliber strike hit the CABs without the RLP was right on target is the first reconnaissance sign that they were guided either by TLV or by the CC laser system.
      Question: if the conditions are the same and there are no r / l of contrasting targets, and the CRBD is hit * by a peg * - then ??? Well, at least, they were not induced by the RLGSN.
      Remember Yugoslavia. Amsky Axes were pointing at the beacons previously set up by the f / s of the RDG. A couple of times on the laser CPU. And this despite the fact that there was r / l of contrasting targets there was a carriage and a small cart.
      Maybe I'm wrong, but the logic and previous experience speak in favor of the above.
      Yours faithfully, hi
      1. +2
        18 October 2015 15: 06
        Boa KAA (3) RU Today, 12: 17 ↑
        Quote: figter
        guidance at the final stage through the RLGSN, the target must be radio-contrast or is it possible to undermine the warhead in accordance with the flight mission at a certain point in the area? Zhenya, hello.
        For the operation of the RLGSN, a radar-contrasting target is needed. It can be a large building, a well-defined * benchmark * or something else that you can * attach to *.
        Question: did you see ANYTHING when broadcasting through the box? -- Not!
        What did we see? - A flat underlying surface over a well-camouflaged object of impact (CP, bunker, etc.). That is * catch on * RLGSN - nothing.
        But what else have we seen? TLV broadcast from the target location, with the TLV visor (* crosshair * in the frame), and this indicates that the CC was provided from the drone above the object, probably a laser ...
        I do not exclude that the illumination could be from the ground, ground advanced aircraft guides ...
        But the fact that before the Caliber strike hit the CABs without the RLP was right on target is the first reconnaissance sign that they were guided either by TLV or by the CC laser system.
        Question: if the conditions are the same and there are no r / l of contrasting targets, and the CRBD is hit * by a peg * - then ??? Well, at least, they were not induced by the RLGSN.
        Remember Yugoslavia. Amsky Axes were pointing at the beacons previously set up by the f / s of the RDG. A couple of times on the laser CPU. And this despite the fact that there was r / l of contrasting targets there was a carriage and a small cart.
        Maybe I'm wrong, but the logic and previous experience speak in favor of the above.
        Regards, hi

        Hello, Alexander! hi
        So I likewise thought about the method of targeting at the final stage, since with the radar method it would be possible to "peel" at the previously known, and in fact, fixed radio-contrast targets (in my understanding). I also tend to think that the seeker was not a radar, but a TLN with a sighting device or a dropped transmitter (beacon). An extreme case is illumination from a UAV or helicopter. Or, if, after all, the RLGSN, then (I dare to say) - the targets were with the use of a large number of metal structures. But then we would hear disgruntled screams ... but for now, silence.
        1. +3
          18 October 2015 17: 59
          I agree. Although * the head * is not such a powerful radar to shine for several meters underground. Although we actually have such systems.
          Yours faithfully, hi
          1. +2
            18 October 2015 18: 52
            The option with reconnaissance groups is unlikely - 11 goals after all. Throw a couple dozen RDGs into the most gadyushnik? The guarantees of success are clearly less than an optical seeker or even a radar detector. Then, if tomorrow it will be necessary, for example, to bomb Iraq, Libya, Romania, Sweden - again send scouts with pointers? Huge risk. The same thing with aviation and UAVs - such a system will only work with the Papuans, this will depreciate the whole idea of ​​using the Caliber Caliber.
            Non-contrasting targets may have been highlighted by UAVs (a couple of three), but we have not been shown all 26 explosions. So that RLGSN is quite possible.
  8. +3
    18 October 2015 09: 46
    Quote: starshina pv
    more, would such ships, with such missiles !!! they can also go to the Baltic and the World Cup (inland seas)?

    Sea-river ships? Their exploitation in the Black Sea, not to mention the Baltic, is under a big question. The Caspian Sea is by and large a lake, and the storms on it are not the same as on the Black ...

    Quote: aszzz888
    . Say, the effect of the October 7 impact of the year 2015 on ISIS facilities would be substantially greater if the submarines of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets, equipped with the Caliber RK, were connected to it from the Mediterranean Sea.


    I think that the effect has turned out that way. Merikatosov is still a sausage! laughing

    Submarines of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets? And they are with "calibers". The only one in the Black Sea is now undergoing preventive maintenance after the inter-fleet crossing. And there are 4 missiles in it. And what is there in the north? With "Calibers"?
    1. +1
      18 October 2015 10: 26
      it’s not appropriate to argue here! that - as they know reliably the current of several responsible persons and the corresponding structure of the Ministry of Defense.
    2. +3
      18 October 2015 13: 00
      Volodya, hello! I always read your comments with interest. Therefore, allow a few words about what you said.
      Quote: Old26
      A big question is their exploitation in the Black Sea, not to mention the Baltic. The Caspian is basically a lake, and the storms on it are not the same as on the Black ...
      Firstly, Gauges can be used up to sea waves 6 points. In the Caspian, this is not uncommon, although it is a lake in terms of its geographical essence, but a normal sea in physical terms. Therefore, nothing prevents to have such RTOs on both the Baltic Fleet and the Black Sea Fleet.
      Quote: Old26
      The only one on the Black Sea now after the interflot transition undergoes preventive repair. Yes and ammunition in it 4 missiles. And what is there in the north? With "Calibers"?
      About 4 rockets. This is a typical loading of submarines, which goes off-line, before which there is no task of attacking coastal objects. Change the task - the load will change! Well, unless the RCs are tightly attached to the upper SLTs equipped with a data input system in the CRBD. But you can make a system for reloading products inside the 1st compartment from the lower racks to the upper ... Although, I will not lie, this probably is not there yet. But such a thought is already floating in the minds of naval commanders ...
      About the north. "Severodvinsk" carries Caliber. In 2012, at Severodvinsk, in accordance with the program, the Kalibr missile system was successfully tested from the surface and submerged position against ship and coastal targets. June 17.06.2014, 560 K-XNUMX "Severodvinsk" was accepted into the KSF. So, there will be * the monarch's will * - we will start from the PL!
      The photo shows the K-560 shooting from underwater.
  9. +1
    18 October 2015 11: 40
    I heard that pr 21631M is planned for the Black Sea Fleet. I would like to know the opinion of experts about the seaworthiness of the project in 1 kt and the possibility of using "Calibers" for the weather?
  10. -3
    18 October 2015 12: 29
    It would be interesting to know the real value of the Caliber .. Given their small series, it seems that for $ 5 million, which is much more expensive than Tomahawk (1,2 million / $)
  11. 0
    18 October 2015 13: 27
    The media say that 26 missiles cost the state 1 billion rubles
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 16: 06
      This money is already budgeted and must be spent
  12. -1
    18 October 2015 13: 45
    Quote: tforik
    Firstly, Gauges can be used up to sea waves 6 points. In the Caspian, this is not uncommon, although it is a lake in terms of its geographical essence, but a normal sea in physical terms. Therefore, nothing prevents to have such RTOs on both the Baltic Fleet and the Black Sea Fleet.

    Hello, Alexander. The fact that before the excitement of 6 points "Gauges" can be used is good. The question is different. What is the seaworthiness of these ships of 950 tonnes of displacement? I'm not sure that the "river-sea" class will be able to "work" with such waves. I would be glad to be mistaken ...
    About the Caspian. It is difficult to say what he was like in a storm, but at 6 points, to be honest, I did not hear, although they lived in Kaspiysk, and even served there, including and at KVF quite a lot.

    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    About the north. "Severodvinsk" carries calibers

    here people mainly rely on "Varshavyanka", and all of them, in the Baltic Fleet, in the Northern Fleet - 877. Of course, "Severodvinsk" can do it. But it is necessary to conduct it in-1 unnoticed in the SPM. Earlier, during our intensive campaigns, this was done quite often, as now - HZ.

    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    About 4 rockets. This is a typical loading of submarines, which goes off-line, before which there is no task of attacking coastal objects. Change the task - the load will change! Well, unless the RCs are tightly attached to the upper SLTs equipped with a data input system in the CRBD. But you can make a system for reloading products inside the 1st compartment from the lower racks to the upper ... Although, I will not lie, this probably is not there yet. But such a thought is already floating in the minds of naval commanders ...

    Unfortunately, judging from open and semi-open sources, they are precisely tied to the top two TAs. Therefore, a volley - only two, then reload and two more. True reload automatic, quick reload device. Of course, you can take on board not 4, but more KR instead of torpedoes, the issue of overloading from the lower racks to the upper ones still remains
  13. +1
    18 October 2015 13: 55
    Quote: tforik
    It would be interesting to know the real value of the Caliber .. Given their small series, it seems that for $ 5 million, which is much more expensive than Tomahawk (1,2 million / $)

    I met the figure of 6,5 million dollars apiece, but I do not know how reliable it is
  14. -1
    18 October 2015 15: 49
    Quote: deduly1957
    Professor and you don’t think that you stick your nose out of your business?

    But he has such a job; Baba Yaga is always against it, I would say more specifically, but they will ban him again.
  15. 0
    18 October 2015 16: 45
    Quote: professor
    KR accuracy has always been their Achilles heel. How is this problem solved in the described sample?

    Like all similar ones: GLONASS, GPS, inertial with a built-in map, and radar specifically to the target.
    Quote: professor
    How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?

    Incomprehensible question. Standing on the ground, beyond 20 m do not see? )
    1. +1
      18 October 2015 19: 17
      Quote: Denimax
      Incomprehensible question. Standing on the ground, beyond 20 m do not see? )

      Standing on the ground at a height of 20 meters, I see not far away, but moving at the same height at a speed of several hundred meters per second, I must accurately reach the target so as not to miss. It is not for nothing that some RCs make a slide in front of the target in order to "look around".
      1. 0
        18 October 2015 19: 40
        Why make a slide? -Although such a function, due to the possible complexity, the targets can program, or enter a different route. And the radar at the GOS can see far (over the entire horizon), take into account landmarks.
        1. 0
          18 October 2015 19: 55
          from a height of 20m "the entire horizon" is less than 17km
        2. 0
          18 October 2015 20: 00
          Quote: Denimax
          Why make a slide?

          To see further.

          Quote: Tlauicol
          from a height of 20m "the entire horizon" is less than 17km

          This is at sea, and if there is no Kherson steppe then ... And from this angle go go identify the target. After all, she was killed in memory by photographing from above.
        3. +1
          18 October 2015 22: 34
          They always make a slide.
          Accuracy from horizontal flight is a couple of orders of magnitude less than with a slide.
          Therefore, the slide in the final segment is justified.
  16. +1
    18 October 2015 17: 00
    Probably our bicycle did not reinvent and went along the beaten path of the Americans for the guidance and unification of caliber carriers. And the warheads are constantly being updated. This can be seen from the progress of the Tochka and Iskander warheads. The comparison is incorrect, but the progress is visible. The industry owns the technologies for creating both radar and optical heads. So far, only thermal imaging devices are lame. But this is a matter of time and desire. A big plus is that there is no need to invent the ideology of application, the USA did it for us 20 years ago and is constantly improving it. The only thing that surprises is why the missile complexes on the ground / water and in the air are different and their missiles are different? Was it impossible to unify?
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 19: 30
      Terrestrial should not be able to fire further than 500 km on the INF INF, if I am not mistaken.
  17. 0
    18 October 2015 17: 17
    Professor not long ago you stated "The Syrian issue is not being resolved in Moscow", it took no more than 2 months, about "Caliber" of all stripes on this site there was a detailed series of articles, who wants to find, a lot is described there, and a conclusion can be made by ourselves
    1. 0
      18 October 2015 19: 19
      Quote: 31rus
      Professor not long ago you stated "The Syrian issue is not being resolved in Moscow", it took no more than 2 months, about "Caliber" of all stripes on this site there was a detailed series of articles, who wants to find, a lot is described there, and a conclusion can be made by ourselves

      Even 26 Caliber will not solve the Syrian issue. He is not solved by rockets.
      1. 0
        18 October 2015 19: 49
        smile If with YaBCh, then the question can and will be solved.
  18. 0
    18 October 2015 19: 02
    No matter how Syria turns into 2nd Vietnam ...
    1. +1
      18 October 2015 19: 32
      Why, in Vietnam, the Americans were piled up properly. The main infantry not to send there
  19. +1
    18 October 2015 19: 38
    Quote: Zaurbek
    The only thing that surprises is why the RS complexes on land / water and in the air are different and their rockets are different?

    They have the same missiles. It’s just that there is a starting accelerator in the water / land variant, while the aviation one does not have a starting accelerator
  20. 0
    18 October 2015 19: 50
    I also think so, but the indices of the products are different and I read somewhere that the complex is different. Different KBs did.
  21. 0
    18 October 2015 20: 28
    Quote: Zaurbek
    I also think so, but the indices of the products are different and I read somewhere that the complex is different. Different KBs did.

    No, all missiles of the CLUB complex were made in one design bureau - the Novator design bureau. Here are the missiles for the Air Force (for strategists) - they were made by another design bureau, "Raduga"
  22. 0
    18 October 2015 20: 32
    Quote: Zaurbek
    but product indices are different

    The indices are really different. For anti-ship missiles, they are 3M54 (with variations), for a ship-to-ground cruise missile - 3M14. But everything can be traced there absolutely. "Granat" had the index 3M10, "Relief" EMNIP - 3M12. Caliber - it is 3M14
  23. +1
    18 October 2015 21: 13
    Quote: professor
    Quote: mirag2
    the professor asks questions to himself, and he himself answers them ...

    I re-read it again. Where's the answer?
    How does a navigation system bring a missile into the target area? Inertial with satellite correction? Is that all?
    How does the radar warning system detect and recognize a target from a height of 20 m? Sees through the earth?

    Sholom professor! Yes, you are "digging" in nature! bully
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  25. 0
    18 October 2015 22: 41
    The article generally liked, except
    ... the effect of the strike on October 7, 2015 on ISIS facilities would be substantially greater if the submarines of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets, equipped with the Caliber RK, were connected to it from the Mediterranean Sea.

    The cruise missile strike from the Caspian Sea has more political than military significance, a friendly message to our "partners" that was heard.
    It is not economically feasible to translate the KR "Caliber" of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets, the Aerospace Forces are coping with their task without it.
  26. 0
    19 October 2015 02: 33
    For the Russian Navy, the range, according to the media of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, is 2600 kilometers.
    Why so short ?? You can increase it by an order of magnitude !! Yes
  27. 0
    23 October 2015 23: 13
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