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Amnesty International accuses Kurds of war crimes in Syria

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Calling himself a human rights organization Amnesty International found in Syria those who commit war crimes. It would seem that it is not difficult to find such people in Syria, because in this country there are militant groups of “Dzhebhat al-Nusra” and ISIL, but AI accuses Kurdish militias fighting the same ISIL of crimes against humanity.


Amnesty International accuses Kurds of war crimes in Syria


In today's report published by the organization Amnesty International it is reported that the Kurdish formations "deliberately squeezed" the non-Kurd population from the north of the country, and those who refused to leave their homes were "affected by force". In particular, the report states that Kurdish militiamen allegedly burned down houses belonging to the Arab population of the northern provinces of Syria.

In addition, human rights defenders from Amnesty International reported that the Kurds "punished" those Syrian citizens who lived in localities occupied by ISIL militants. The report states that people were beaten after the liberation of settlements, suspecting local residents of complicity with the Islamic State militants.

From the report of the senior expert Amnesty International on Lama Faqih crises:
Intentionally destroying the homes of civilians, and in some cases demolishing and burning entire villages, expelling local residents without any military grounds, the Autonomous Administration abuses its authority and brazenly tramples international humanitarian law, carrying out attacks that amount to war crimes. In its fight against the IG, the Autonomous Administration appears to be increasingly neglecting the rights of civilians involved in the conflict. We are witnessing an increasing displacement of residents and the destruction of their homes, which is not the result of military operations. This report contains clear evidence of a deliberate and coordinated campaign to collectively punish civilians in villages previously occupied by IS, as well as in places where a small minority of residents are suspected of supporting this group.


AI message:
Amnesty International researchers visited 14 villages and villages in the provinces of al-Hasaka and al-Raghga (Raqqa) in July and August 2015, to investigate the forced displacement of residents and the destruction of their homes in areas under the control of the Autonomous Administration.


An eyewitness message is given:
They pulled us out of our homes and started burning them ... drove the bulldozers ... They destroyed the house behind the house until the whole village was destroyed.


An obvious piquancy to this report adds the fact that the Kurdish militia is officially supported by the United States. By the way, the report itself Amnesty International is called "Syria: Destruction of villages by an ally of the United States is tantamount to a war crime."

The State Department is clearly digesting the information, and its official representative is preparing comments "in his office" ...
Photos used:
http://amnesty.org.ru
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 13 October 2015 20: 07 New
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    From a report by Amnesty International Senior Crisis Expert Lama Fakih:
    Deliberately destroying the homes of civilians, and in some cases demolishing and burning entire villages, expelling local residents without any military reason,


    The rules of the site do not allow me to lay out cruel scenes .... and since I have been climbing in search of such things in SYRIA and IRAQ for specific sites for a long time I can say in most cases everything happens with the exact opposite.
    During the seizure of cities and villages, ISIS or AL-NUSRA militants or other similar organizations gathered people (mainly the male population) on the squares and instructively executed captured prisoners, supporters of ASAD, Christians and other Gentiles.

    There are many ways of executions ... banal shooting, chopping off the head, burning, clogging with bayonets (very cruel scenes), dragging the body on a rope and many other disgusting things ... that people with a weak mentality are better off not watching.

    Further, the most cruel things happened behind the scenes .... when people live fried like barbecue on a fire or cooked in boilers like pieces of meat, slowly stabbed with bayonets .... and all this Amnesty International should know and not speak to ASAD of the actions of people whose compared with ISIS butchers as angelic deeds.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 13 October 2015 20: 09 New
      +3
      Putin and Assad found a company - the Kurds.
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 13 October 2015 20: 30 New
        11
        The State Department received a brain explosion, not otherwise!
        1. Arh
          Arh 13 October 2015 21: 49 New
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          I am for the Kurds to fight on one side along with the Syrians, Iraqis, Russians and find their Kurdistan!
      2. Cossack Ermak
        Cossack Ermak 13 October 2015 22: 00 New
        +5
        East is a delicate matter. Although at the moment the Kurds are our allies in the fight against ISIS, do not forget about their true ultimate goal - the creation of a Kurdish state in Iraq, Turkey and Syria.
        Yes, while we are on the way. Yes, they suffered from ISIS and they hate. But to create their own state, they do not need Arabs on their territory. And they are not innocent babies. Remember only the attacks in Turkey.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 13 October 2015 22: 06 New
          +7
          Quote: Cossack Ermak
          Remember only the attacks in Turkey.

          For which no one took responsibility ...
          Terror always pursues indirect goals, for inciting hatred this is it.
          1. Cossack Ermak
            Cossack Ermak 13 October 2015 22: 11 New
            -1
            For which no one took responsibility.

            I'm not talking about the latter. For 50 years, the Kurds have carried out many terrorist attacks in Turkey for which they are officially responsible.
        2. Altona
          Altona 13 October 2015 22: 11 New
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          Quote: Cossack Ermak
          East is a delicate matter. Although at the moment the Kurds are our allies in the fight against ISIS, do not forget about their true ultimate goal - the creation of a Kurdish state in Iraq, Turkey and Syria.

          -------------------------
          In fact, there is a civil war in the region, on the territory of two states, in this war, war crimes can be hung on either side ... The same thing was done in Yugoslavia, blaming all the victims on the Serbs ... Even if the US supports someone, it’s not it means that they will not abandon the ally ... Everything is done for the sake of a momentary situation ... And in general, the USA creates and supports quasi-state formations - Kosovo, Ukraine, ISIS ... What they themselves created, they support ... This It’s profitable for them, it’s a source of bad news on TV, a source of misfortune for neighbors ...
          1. Cossack Ermak
            Cossack Ermak 13 October 2015 22: 15 New
            +5
            Quote: Altona
            In fact, there is a civil war in the region, on the territory of two states, in this war, war crimes can be hung on either side ... The same thing was done in Yugoslavia, blaming all the victims on the Serbs ... Even if the US supports someone, it’s not it means that they will not abandon the ally ... Everything is done for the sake of a momentary situation ... And in general, the USA creates and supports quasi-state formations - Kosovo, Ukraine, ISIS ... What they themselves created, they support ... This It’s profitable for them, it’s a source of bad news on TV, a source of misfortune for neighbors ...

            and who argues?) It is clear where the legs grow from.)
            He helped the Kurds, helps Turkey, helps ISIS, supports the Saudis, Israel ... In short, all who can. If only this meat grinder never ended.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 13 October 2015 23: 47 New
              +3
              Quote: Cossack Ermak
              He helped the Kurds, helps Turkey, helps ISIS, supports the Saudis, Israel ... In short, all who can. If only this meat grinder never ended.

              А я бы ещё вспомнил, кто финансировал Гитлера. А ещё - как Черчилль в 1937-м называл Гитлера "величайшим политиком современности"...

              I don’t know English so well to check - есть ли в английском языке аналог нашей поговорки: "Кому война, а кому мать родна"?
              1. Firstvanguard
                Firstvanguard 14 October 2015 05: 56 New
                0
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                есть ли в английском языке аналог нашей поговорки: "Кому война, а кому мать родна"?

                Sayings - no, the principle of life - is. soldier
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 14 October 2015 07: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Firstvanguard
                  Sayings - no, the principle of life - is.

                  Somewhere, I had guessed that for the naughty Saxons to make money in the war is the most faithful and coveted earnings throughout their bloody history. War has never been a disaster for them - only business ...
            2. Seryoga DV
              Seryoga DV 14 October 2015 05: 55 New
              0
              so the minke whales do not deny this, if I remember correctly, they call it controlled chaos, their problem is that chaos often gets out of control
              they imagined something about eternal business, forgetting about the principle of boomerang and the theory of chaos:
              Today you spat in the well, and tomorrow your house was washed away by the tsunami)
        3. Asadullah
          Asadullah 13 October 2015 22: 26 New
          +6
          do not forget about their true ultimate goal - the creation of a Kurdish state in Iraq, Turkey and Syria.


          Is it possible in more detail? Who is voicing this, who is the leader, what is the vision of such a state? So far, this is only talked about in the United States, when you need to put pressure on Turkey. And the Kurds themselves only talk about autonomies, about the same as they have in Iran. The second point, the Kurds are too fragmented. And while there is no political force that could unite them.

          Yes, and finally, do you think that a people of forty million people does not have the right to their statehood, and Estonia, of a million, has?
          1. Cossack Ermak
            Cossack Ermak 13 October 2015 22: 36 New
            0
            Quote: Asadullah
            Is it possible in more detail? Who is voicing this, who is the leader, what is the vision of such a state? So far, this is only talked about in the United States, when you need to put pressure on Turkey. And the Kurds themselves only talk about autonomies, about the same as they have in Iran. The second point, the Kurds are too fragmented. And while there is no political force that could unite them.

            Yes, and finally, do you think that a people of forty million people does not have the right to their statehood, and Estonia, of a million, has?

            I am not against the Kurds and their statehood. this is first
            Secondly, do not make fun of autonomy. Kurds live compactly in 3 = x countries. And even suppose that suddenly they all got autonomy there. Will you be so naive that they will not want more? There are 40 million of them.
            their leader .... Well, let's say you know about the leader of the Kurdish workers' party sitting in Turkey.
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 14 October 2015 06: 29 New
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            Quote: Asadullah
            does Estonia have a million people?

            Эстония, Латвия, Литва это искусственные образования, созданные Антантой в качестве "санитарного кордона" против большевистской России (лимитрофы).
        4. gans_sp
          gans_sp 13 October 2015 22: 47 New
          +2
          I can be mistaken, as far as I remember, the attacks of the Kurds were always directed against the army or the police
        5. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 13 October 2015 23: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Cossack Ermak
          Although at the moment the Kurds are our allies in the fight against ISIS, do not forget about their true ultimate goal - the creation of a Kurdish state in Iraq, Turkey and Syria.
          Yes, while we are on the way. Yes, they suffered from ISIS and they hate.

          Already in Moscow, one could hear how Churchill's teeth gritted when he called us allies ... And where to go? If it were not for the USSR, Great Britain would have lived a maximum of a couple of months - until the first German landing.

          The war did not end yet, and he was already persuading the United States (in April 1945!) To atomic bombing of the USSR.

          And when it became clear that there was nothing to fear, in 1946, in Fulton, Sir Winston turned around in full, showed jackals teeth from under pig's cheeks ...

          Why am I talking about Churchill? And besides, for now, maybe we are on the way ... And then, after ISIS, when the Kurds want to chop off a piece from the same Assad? Who will we bomb? Может, сразу определяться нужно? Только НИ В КОЕМ СЛУЧАЕ не основывать своё решение на мнении таких идеологических потаскух, как "Амнистия"...
        6. Foxmara
          Foxmara 14 October 2015 01: 49 New
          +1
          do not forget that the Kurds were forcibly divided into artificial states, thus creating an age-old conflict. Something to do with this.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 13 October 2015 20: 10 New
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      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      in most cases, everything happens with the exact opposite.

      Therefore, there will be no vacancy for you at Amnesty International. smile
      A clear piquancy to this report is added by the fact that the Kurdish militia is officially supported by the United States. By the way, the report of Amnesty International itself is called "Syria: Destruction of villages by a US ally is tantamount to a war crime."

      And there is no piquancy here. US surrendered Kurds to Turks for breaking with Russia. Only business.
      1. DDR
        DDR 13 October 2015 20: 25 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        USA surrendered Kurds

        Наглядный пример другим "союзникам",что ждать от матрасников!
        1. Chak
          Chak 13 October 2015 20: 34 New
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          Курды всегда были разменной картой англосаксов. Курды расселены вдоль асецй Малой и Средней Азии и никогда не имели своего государства. Бритты их периодически натравливали то на Турцию, то на Иран, то на Афганистан и т.д., заставляя эти страны быть сговорчивее. Нужда отпадала и курды предавались вчерашним "другом". Опыт нескольких веков их ничему не научил
          1. just exp
            just exp 14 October 2015 06: 46 New
            0
            а малые народы всегда были проститутками , поэтому они никогда и не научатся , у них рефлекс не на уровне "генетическая вековая память" как у нас , а на уровне "сейчас выгодно с этими , этим и подмахну" , а то что в итоге не они попользуют , а ими попользуются они не понимают .
        2. Monos
          Monos 13 October 2015 21: 02 New
          +8
          Well, that means that we will have another real ally in BV. As I understand it, the time has come for everyone to determine who is with whom and against whom they are friends. And the Kurds, if anything, about 40 ml.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 14 October 2015 00: 35 New
        +2
        And there is no piquancy here. US surrendered Kurds to Turks for breaking with Russia. Only business.
        The piquancy is that the United States too began to surrender its allies. They handed over Israel in negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program. They handed over the Kurds. Slowly they began to surrender Ukraine. Is this politics or recognition of its weakness?
        1. just exp
          just exp 14 October 2015 06: 46 New
          0
          this is a lack of funds.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 13 October 2015 20: 18 New
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      Эта"Международная амнистия"амерская шарашкина контора которая кормится из рук госдепа оправдает хоть Гитлера,лишь бы оправдать доверие своих хозяев и получить очередной грант,США похоже сливают курдов туркам
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 13 October 2015 21: 07 New
        0
        Иногда это у них случается(ошибочка вышла,т.е.рамсы попутал..).Была из "обкома"заявка-огласить злодеев,наверное подразумевали наших летчиков и моряков.Почему сослались на курдов,не пойму-там у них вообще теперь всё мутно.
        Quote: vovanpain
        Эта"Международная амнистия"амерская шарашкина контора которая кормится из рук госдепа оправдает хоть Гитлера,лишь бы оправдать доверие своих хозяев и получить очередной грант,США похоже сливают курдов туркам
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 13 October 2015 23: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: vovanpain
        Эта"Международная амнистия"амерская шарашкина контора которая кормится из рук госдепа оправдает хоть Гитлера,лишь бы оправдать доверие своих хозяев и получить очередной грант,США похоже сливают курдов туркам

        From Wikipedia, there are proofs for documents
        the organization constantly receives grants for its activities from many Western government funds and government agencies, in particular from the UK Department for International Development [21], the European Commission [22], US State Department[23] [24] and other governments [25] [26].


        Поскольку с заказчиком определились, теперь послушаем "музыку"
        “The evidence we possess indicates that Russia is fueling the conflict by direct intervention, as well as by supporting separatists in the east of Ukraine. Russia must stop the uninterrupted flow of weapons and other assistance to the separatists, since they are the ones who contribute to the creation of grave violations in the field of human rights in the region, ”said the head of Amnesty International Salil Shetty.

        Salil Shetty said that "all parties to the conflict" demonstrate "disregard for the lives of the civilian population." The organization collected evidence of immigrants and residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, who reported torture, murder, kidnapping and violence by the separatists against the local population.


        And after that, let Amnesty International tell me that the grass is green and the water is wet - I won’t believe it! Какая, к чёрту, амнистия? Тупо отрабатывают заказ плательщика. А плательщику по фигу, кто там в Сирии хороший, кто плохой - лишь бы воевали. За бабло "Амнистия" белое покрасит чёрным, а чёрное - белым.

        Между прочим, Нобелевскую премию мира, цену которой все увидели после Горбатого и Обамы, "Амнистия" получила аж в 1977-м! Ну, в такой компании Нобелевскую премию мира осталось дать только Гитлеру посмертно, поделив её с Порошенко...
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 13 October 2015 20: 54 New
      +3
      The same lech ... Well, you have nerves!
      As for me, the devil has already come, and where he is, we all know. The question is, do we have the strength to fight it?
      P.S. I'm not about technology, I'm about spirit ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 13 October 2015 21: 01 New
        +6
        As for me, the devil has already come, and where he is, we all know. The question is, do we have the strength to fight it?


        If you love your family ... mother, wife, children, beloved cat smile Respect people and just love your homeland, you will always remain a normal person and everything will be in order with the spirit.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 October 2015 21: 40 New
          +2
          Do you doubt my ability to love relatives and those around me?
          Bad, you respected me know ... If you have questions, then in PM.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 13 October 2015 21: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: sabakina
            the ability to love relatives and those who stand nearby

            А
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            cat

            ? smile
          2. Same lech
            Same lech 14 October 2015 02: 48 New
            0
            I don’t doubt how much ... hi ... do not be offended, I did not mean you personally.
    5. skifd
      skifd 13 October 2015 21: 02 New
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Site rules do not allow me to post violent scenes


      Here is just a link, I don’t advise you nervous.

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=809_1395163651
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 13 October 2015 22: 01 New
        +6
        Quote: skifd
        Here is just a link, I don’t advise you nervous.

        Yeah, I looked. angry Have you noticed that all the mzraz, that in Ukraine, that in Syria in masks? What are they, tvari, afraid of if they believe that they are fighting for a just cause?
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 October 2015 21: 29 New
      +5
      October 12, 2015 Su-34, Su-24M and Su-25SM aircraft completed 88 sorties on 83 sites ISIS terrorist group in the provinces of Raqqah, Hama, Idlib, Latakia and Aleppo. Airplanes attacked command posts, field headquarters ammunition and weapons depots; accumulations of military equipment, factories for the production of explosives, field camps and militant bases:
      Su-24M in the area of ​​the village of Anadan (Aleppo province) dealt a targeted blow to the field headquarters and ammunition depot. As a result of a point bomb strike by the KAB-500 adjustable bomb, the field headquarters of the militants was destroyed. And the explosion of ammunition stored in the basement destroyed four units of terrorist vehicles.
      Su-34s hit a bunker with an ammunition depot in the area of ​​El Latamna (Hama province). The construction is completely destroyed.
      Su-34 aircraft destroyed the field headquarters of the command of the gangs and the ammunition depot in the suburbs of El Bab (Aleppo province). Objective control data recorded the detonation of artillery ammunition stored at the facility.
      The attack of a Su-25 attack aircraft in Aleppo province attacked a convoy of fighters carrying fuel and ammunition. A fuel truck, three trucks with ammunition and two escort vehicles equipped with heavy machine guns were destroyed.
    7. g1v2
      g1v2 13 October 2015 21: 49 New
      10
      Есть информация , что "армия завоевания", созданная из просаудовской Фронт ан-Нусра , протурецко-катаровского Ахрар аш-Шам и других более мелких группировок , должна была именно ударить по Латакии и Тартусу и устроить геноцид алавитов и христиан . Матрасники же должны были обеспечить бесполетную зону и помогать им нанося удары по объектам саа и войскам. Результатом должно было быть истребление и массовое бегство основной опоры асада - алавитов и христиан. После чего асада завалили бы , а нас выставили из Тартуса. Речь шла о второй половине осени . Но один парень из Питера поломал им всю пьесу. Наш крейсер Москва, истребители и пво закрыли побережье от натовских ударов , установив для матрасников свою бесполетную зону , а наши вкс начали наносить удары по приготовившейся к наступлению армии завоевания и ее основным членам - нусре и Ахрар аш-Шам. И сейчас в Хаме, Латакии и Идлибе сирийская армия и наши вкс перемалывают тех , кто должен был стать палачами для алавитов(как например резня в баруди). И чего то я не вижу , чтобы этих ребят в плен особо брали в отличие от других фронтов. Это подготовленная несколькими странами армия для решения алавитского вопроса. И сейчас под нашими бомбами горят деньги и планы саудитов, катарцев, турок и матрасников. Правда это или нет - хз , но сильно похоже на правду. И если так , то значит что Россия спасла алавитов от подобия резни турками армян сто лет назад.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 13 October 2015 20: 07 New
    +7
    As I understand it, public opinion is being prepared for decisive attacks on the Kurds. It is not clear why the Americans need this, because Amnesty International is their office
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 13 October 2015 20: 36 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      It’s not clear why the Americans are why, because Amnesty International is their office

      The Kurds are not allies to the Americans; they are fighting ISIS. Turkey (US ally) - bombes the Kurds, France (US ally) is also marked on them.
      A pair of unidentified aircraft attacked a former camp of Kurdish militias in the Syrian province of Raqqa. This was announced on condition of anonymity by the commander of one of the units of the Kurdish militia.

      “The silhouettes of two aircraft with a characteristic triangular wing and one keel were seen by militias in the sky above their positions on Friday night,” he described the cars that participated in the raid. According to the squad leader, the planes dropped air bombs a few kilometers from the positions - in the camp, which was left by the militia in the summer. As a result of the air raid several warehouse buildings and former barracks were destroyed, reports TASS.

      A NATO strike was unambiguously hit, it is most likely that the triangular-wing aircraft were the French Dessault Rafael, which according to official information last night allegedly bombed ISIS positions in Syria.

      Earlier, the head of the defense department of France, Jean-Yves Le Drian, on the air of the Europa-1 radio station, said that last night the French Air Force attacked the Islamists in Syria.

      “Two Rafales bombed ISIS fighters' training camp *. The tasks have been completed, ”explained Jean-Yves Le Drian.
      1. Cossack Ermak
        Cossack Ermak 13 October 2015 22: 08 New
        +1
        The Kurds are not allies to the Americans; they are fighting ISIS. Turkey (US ally) - bombes the Kurds, France (US ally) is also marked on them.

        The Kurds are fighting and fighting with everyone. who is against their plans. With Turkey, ISIS, with Saddam Hussein, the emirates ... At this stage, they are like allies to us. In the East, each side adheres to its own benefits and often intolerant enemies of yesterday become dearest friends against the third common enemy.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 13 October 2015 22: 30 New
          0
          Quote: Cossack Ermak
          The Kurds are fighting and fighting with everyone. who is against their plans.

          Assad could offer them at least autonomy. But he chews something.
          All against all is a mess, in a word.
    2. Rader
      Rader 13 October 2015 20: 46 New
      +2
      It’s just that the Americans suddenly realized that it’s somehow impossible to control the Kurds ... Kurdish society is by no means monolithic, there are both ardent supporters of the creation of Kurdistan and people who fully support Assad. But the overwhelming majority are ready to cooperate with Assad and come forward as a united front to fight against the Islamists. But this is exactly what Americans do not like, not Erdogan. So they decided to merge the Kurds with their Kurdistan ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 October 2015 17: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: GRAY
        Kurds to Americans are not allies,

        This is the basis on which you made such a conclusion?
        Today, the Kurds are allies of the United States, which the Americans do not just endure - with whom they are fighting in close coordination.
        Today, Kurds are a force that is no longer scattered across several enclaves, but has a whole territory.
        Today, the Kurds are the most combat-ready of the recognized international forces in the region.
        Add up these three factors - and you will see in total a weighty application for the long-awaited Kurdish state.
        Moreover, there are all indications that the US bet on the Kurds as the main counterbalance to ISIL
        The Bloomberg news agency, in its article “The Kurds have become closer to their own state,” remarks: “These joint military victories underscore a dramatic change in US policy: starting in 2015, the US military will train three brigades of militias and spend more than $ 350 million to equip them ...

        Quote: Rader
        It’s just that the Americans suddenly realized that it’s somehow impossible to control the Kurds ...

        This is a completely adequate answer, although now their goals are very much the same, unless they differ at the final stage. Kurds need a state, and Americans need another terrorist monster
  3. venaya
    venaya 13 October 2015 20: 08 New
    +3
    "Syria: Destroying villages as a US ally is tantamount to a war crime."

    Что удивительного, курды работают не только на инвестора, но и на себя, любимого, от этого никуда не уйти. Не та культура у курдов, чтобы повторять "европейские ценности", всёже курды, в своей массе, чисто номадные племена, занимающиеся ранее в основном скотоводством.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2015 20: 12 New
    +7
    Supported ISIS killers in Syrian Kurdistan? Suicides. Did you house the houses? Still easy to get off. Civil war in all its ugliness.
  5. james
    james 13 October 2015 20: 14 New
    +2
    Все верно, они ж не ИГИЛ и не "умеренная" оппозиция.
  6. GRAY
    GRAY 13 October 2015 20: 22 New
    +8
    Deliberately destroying the homes of civilians, and in some cases demolishing and burning entire villages, expelling local residents without any military reason

    Just like Israel in Gaza.
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 13 October 2015 20: 30 New
      0
      And white and fluffy barmalei from Gaza bring tomatoes and flowers to Israel. What do you know about Israel? Have you been there to speak out?
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 13 October 2015 20: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Maksus
        And white and fluffy barmalei from Gaza bring tomatoes and flowers to Israel. What do you know about Israel?

        Israelis break families of tomato and flower carriers at home and leave them homeless.
        Without any military necessity.
        Why didn’t you like the direct analogy?
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 13 October 2015 21: 27 New
          -2
          But were we right in Chechnya? Or are our barmaleas bad and good in Gaza? So those bearded ones are also happy to blow up buses, houses and soldiers. And in their Gaza hiding a mortar in the courtyard of the school.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 13 October 2015 21: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: Maksus
            But were we right in Chechnya?

            Which company do you mean, first or second?
            За первую трудно сказать - Ельцин же заявил: "Берите суверенитета сколько сможете", а чеченцам суверенитета не досталось почему-то, ну вот они сами и взяли, порядком при этом накосячив терактами. Гражданская война, по сути. Кто тут прав может быть?

            А за вторую, мы правы по любому. Суверенитет у чеченцев уже был, но они попали под влияние радикальных исламистов и захотели большего - удумали "Имарат Кавказ", ну дальше вы сами знаете...
            So those bearded ones are also happy to blow up buses, houses and soldiers. And in their Gaza hiding a mortar in the courtyard of the school.

            And ISIS easily cuts the head.
            1. Maksus
              Maksus 14 October 2015 07: 05 New
              0
              So, now Israel is going through both the first and second Chechnya, so do not judge further on in the text. On the first day of the bombing of Syria, the media also showed how we bomb schools and kindergartens ...
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 14 October 2015 08: 50 New
                -1
                Quote: Maksus
                So now, Israel is simultaneously going through the first and second Chechnya,

                Israel during the defensive war occupied the Palestinian territories - there is nothing in common with Chechnya.
                If Jews had seized half-apartments from me and settled there, I would also hate them and would definitely not have done without terror.
  7. Buffalo
    Buffalo 13 October 2015 20: 28 New
    +5
    American criminal swiftly sweeps!
    The Kurds did not have time to declare their intention to unite with the army of the SAR, as they were immediately declared criminals! Shemyakin court!
    Well, yes, God will not betray - the pig will not eat! And our Su-34s also work quickly and efficiently ...
  8. Darkoff
    Darkoff 13 October 2015 20: 28 New
    0
    Kurds are a harsh people. They can. But they were guided, most likely, not by a thirst for blood, but by their concepts of justice and retribution.
    1. alone
      alone 13 October 2015 20: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: DarkOFF
      Kurds are a harsh people. They can. But they were guided, most likely, not by a thirst for blood, but by their concepts of justice and retribution.


      It’s not a matter of severity. The region’s customs are such. Death for death, blood for blood.
  9. AlexTires
    AlexTires 13 October 2015 20: 30 New
    +5
    Just the Americans wanted to take Raqqu with the Kurds, and here Amnesty Kurds into war criminals writes. am
    I think that the Kurds are beginning to be pressed because it is unprofitable for them to fight along with the linden coalition headed by the United States, because you can then forget about your Kurdistan at all .... and Amnesty International is a smelly garbage can that works on order ...
  10. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 13 October 2015 20: 33 New
    +5
    Translation of arrows on the Kurds-political order.
    Perhaps someone needs to be shown that the Kurds are no better than ISIS.
    It is difficult to figure out what happens after the liberation of settlements after ISIS, perhaps the Kurds had information about involvement in the crimes, but the perpetrators are unlikely to talk about it AI.
  11. alone
    alone 13 October 2015 20: 35 New
    +9
    Civil war ... the most brutal, most bloody merciless war. A war where there are no laws, no codes. A war that you come to your house in the evening and see that all your relatives are destroyed only because you are a Kurd, an Arab, friends , Assyrian, Turkman. Because you are a Shiite or Sunni, a Christian or a Yezidi, because you are loyal to the authorities or you are dissatisfied with the policies of the authorities. Such are the realities.
    Civil war is ethnic and religious purges, mass executions and killings. No wonder Kurds or others do this. Such are the realities. Blood for blood, death for death.

    Let those who contributed to this be cursed, who sat and waited for how it would end, when it was possible to end it in the bud.
  12. hly
    hly 13 October 2015 20: 38 New
    +2
    Water is poured into a Turkish mill. Well, I do not believe this amnesty .....
  13. afrikanez
    afrikanez 13 October 2015 20: 38 New
    0
    Autonomous administration abuses its powers and brazenly flouts international humanitarian law
    Already who would speak about abuses and international rights. The villain is the ONE number in the world, trying to blame someone. Well, not heresy? True lovers .you, it’s time for you to give it to the military tribunal for a long time, and you open your mouth to everyone.
  14. Region 23
    Region 23 13 October 2015 20: 38 New
    +7
    The complete lack of logic in the actions of international organizations, for the invasion and punitive operations in independent countries, Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, and fighters against terrorism are accused of war crimes.
    Gentlemen from Amnesty International, when the US military bombed a hospital in Kunduz, whose were they silent?
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 13 October 2015 23: 52 New
      +1
      Each Monsieur has his own file. I kept a quote; I don’t remember from which site about this organization.
      ------
      As it turned out, there is no big secret in who finances, for example, Amnesty International. All ways of “sponsoring” this organization, like many others, lead to the US State Department. It is this structure, as the German journalist Gunther Bush aptly put it, “feeds human rights defenders to the necessary form.”
      In addition, do not forget that at the helm of Amnesty International is the assistant to Hilary Clinton for affairs of international organizations - Susanne Nosell.
  15. Vadim12
    Vadim12 13 October 2015 20: 54 New
    0
    Ага, "правозащитники" проснулись. Ну, пусть в международный суд на ополченцев подают! wink Deliver them to the court of all! Will they send an agenda?
  16. Baloo
    Baloo 13 October 2015 21: 03 New
    +3
    Something = I don’t remember that these human rights activists condemn the crimes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass.
  17. nord62
    nord62 13 October 2015 21: 04 New
    +3
    Ну да - а по госпиталю "врачи без границ" влупить со всей дури - так это "гуманитарная помощь" . Обхохочешься с идиотизма этих правозащитников безмозглых (или наоборот - мозговитых, так как поют под дудку и за деньги Госдепа полосатого) wassat
    1. Seryoga DV
      Seryoga DV 14 October 2015 06: 45 New
      0
      why brainless?
      you need to remember the defenders of whose right they are ...
      although yes, brainless)
  18. NordUral
    NordUral 13 October 2015 21: 09 New
    +2
    This Amnesty International was dripping on our brains as early as in the Union. A disgusting bunch of paid ubl_yudok.
  19. moskowit
    moskowit 13 October 2015 21: 19 New
    +1
    In fact, the Kurds have long been fighting for their independence. They, like the Palestinians, do not have statehood.
    From an article published at VO a year ago:

    "Курды издавна хотели создать свое национальное государство. Этот многомиллионный народ с древнейшей историей и уникальной культурой, существенно отличающейся от культуры соседних арабов, турок или персов, вплоть до настоящего времени не имеет собственного государственного образования. Хотя его создание – цель национально-освободительной борьбы курдского населения Турции, Ирана, Ирака, Сирии. Как отмечает в своей кандидатской диссертации Самвел Сарибекян, «с молчаливого согласия великих держав в XX в. неоднократно подавлялись силой оружия многочисленные национально-освободительные восстания курдского народа, в результате чего курды несли огромные потери и жертвы. На примере курдского народа можно наблюдать политику двойных стандартов, выборочно применяемой странами Запада» (Сарибекян С.С. Курдский вопрос в международных отношениях. Автореферат диссертации кандидата политических наук, Москва, 2003). Одной из значимых попыток создания курдского национального государства в ХХ веке было провозглашение в 1927 г. на востоке Турции Араратской курдской республики, которая под ударами турецких войск прекратила существование спустя три года – в 1930 году. Следующим примером создания на кратковременный период курдского государства и была Мехабадская республика под руководством Кази Мухаммеда. "

    Территория будущего государства "Курдистан" предполагается такая...
  20. rx78
    rx78 13 October 2015 21: 31 New
    +3
    Курдов просто берут за яйца, на всякий случай. Чтобы не вздумали помогать России в Сирии например, помнили кто в доме хозяин. Гнилая тактика конечно, но у джентельменов так принято. Эмнисти редкостные мерзопакастные шестёрки, их содержат как раз для таких случаев. Только появились слухи что Россия пытается подключить курдов против ИГИЛ - и сразу "сенсация", ага. Раньше не знали что на войне кому-то делают больно. Если бы "умеренные" поддержали Россию, по CNN с утра до вечера крутили бы их зверства с обрубанием голов и пожиранием печени. Будни империи добра, .
  21. voyaka23
    voyaka23 13 October 2015 21: 38 New
    +3
    В наше время любой неугодный народ, уважающий свои традиции (и тем более если на его территории есть что нужно другим) может мгновенно "превратиться" в ТЕРРОРИСТОВ... crying
  22. Monos
    Monos 13 October 2015 21: 41 New
    +6
    Americans Turks bend. wassat What a terrible time we live in. Well, nothing sacred!

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/618/oift33.jpg
  23. ssn18
    ssn18 13 October 2015 21: 44 New
    +1
    "Называющая себя правозащитной организации Amnesty International"

    All. You can not read further. Otherwise, it’s like reading a girl’s confession of not heavy behavior. Some kind of masochism.
  24. Ignatius
    Ignatius 13 October 2015 21: 49 New
    0
    http://vk.com/wall-42162154?q=%23%D0%AE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80
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  27. sounddoc
    sounddoc 13 October 2015 22: 13 New
    +5
    Amnesty International is a model of truth, justice, independence and impartiality. The State Department guarantees!
  28. zerg
    zerg 13 October 2015 22: 31 New
    0
    If the Kurds were tolerant of Arabs actively supporting IS, etc. if they were waiting for protection from terrorists from Assad or Obama or ha ha Erdogan, then there would be no Kurds anymore. Such is their healthy national policy, well, they cannot afford tolerance today ... Here they would survive without feeling hunger. And Amnesty International is simply collecting dirt - a dossier. Well in the future you may need it. Type the Kurds are cut, they start inserting across the words of Huseynovich (or who the next democratizer is), they will recall everything, the dad will be washed out in the media and the Kurds will be banned, or they will be planted in sanctions, or they will be bombed - because of the circumstances ...
  29. gammipapa
    gammipapa 13 October 2015 23: 54 New
    +1
    Jacob soberly and competently outlined the prospects
  30. Garris199
    Garris199 14 October 2015 00: 22 New
    0
    Mattresses included durkee. White is black, and black is white. And nyipet. Make them behave politely, you can only pinch them painfully testicles.
  31. nomad74
    nomad74 14 October 2015 00: 24 New
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    As I understand it, public opinion is being prepared for decisive attacks on the Kurds. It is not clear why the Americans need this, because Amnesty International is their office

    This is for the Americans that they themselves are not doing anything, only with the wrong hands, in this case, the hands of the Turks will deal with the Kurds! So there is a process of demonization of the Kurds.
  32. tatarin_ru
    tatarin_ru 14 October 2015 00: 54 New
    +1
    Following a simple rule.
    Read American news, draw conclusions with the exact opposite.
    Never missed fellow
    1. Seryoga DV
      Seryoga DV 14 October 2015 06: 52 New
      0
      It looks like an oriental proverb about a woman)
  33. Thor
    Thor 14 October 2015 01: 09 New
    +1
    Из всего выше написанного сделал нехитрый вывод о том, что прозападные организации и СМИ уже запутались кого поддерживать и против кого настраивать, что пошли лить "правду"-матушку на своих же союзников smile winked
  34. strenadk
    strenadk 14 October 2015 05: 38 New
    +1
    США поддерживает курдов, курды воюют с ИГ; США поддерживают турков, которые воюют с ИГ и курдами; США поддерживает "свободную сирийскую армию", им сбрасывают боеприпасы для ...ИГ, которое воюет с курдами; recourse this is a tangle: wherever you spit, you will end up in the USA, because they support everyone against everyone, they will find the extreme in such a tangle. It will turn out to be ... it will turn out to be ... But they almost guessed it - it will turn out to be Putin, who managed to be born on the day of the volley from the Caspian Sea tongue
  35. Wolka
    Wolka 14 October 2015 07: 56 New
    0
    everything is right, the Kurds in this war in Syria pursue their long-standing political goals - the creation of their own state is therefore true and false (the war will write everything off) and purge their alleged territorial space ...
  36. cergey51046
    cergey51046 14 October 2015 08: 40 New
    0
    Disarm or destroy all illegal armed groups. They all work against a legitimate government with US support.