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Vladimir Putin: Requirements for Russia to fulfill the Minsk agreements look ridiculous

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Speaking at the Russia Calling! Annual Economic Forum, held under the auspices of VTB Capital, the Russian president said he was quite surprised when someone tries to “call on the Russian Federation to implement the Minsk agreements.” Vladimir Putin recalled that Russia is not a party to the conflict in Ukraine, which, according to the Russian president, is spoken by the official position, not backstage gossip, of Kiev.


Vladimir Putin: Requirements for Russia to fulfill the Minsk agreements look ridiculous


Vladimir Putin quotes news agency TASS:

There is no alternative to the Minsk agreements. But all the time talking about the fact that Russia must fulfill them becomes ridiculous. This is becoming frivolous, not funny, just ridiculous. There are many problems there, but the vast majority of them are not in our competence. Our colleagues in Europe and the United States see it or not?


Further, Putin noted that the West sees the see, but at the same time all the problems of Ukraine consciously trying to shift to Russia.

President of the Russian Federation:
I think see. I have reason to believe that they see exactly, but they are not comfortable saying that the current authorities in Kiev are not able to solve this problem. It is much easier to pass us on and say: “Look, you have to strengthen, triple and wear out there”. But we need our partners to fulfill their obligations.


Recall that in the Minsk agreements it is written in black and white about obligations for the parties to the conflict, which are Kiev on the one hand, and Donetsk and Lugansk on the other. If in the West they are persistently trying to “force Russia to fulfill the Minsk Agreements”, stating that it supports the LC and the DPR, then why does the West not call itself to Minsk-2, because it supports Ukraine?

This logic of double standards (or, rather, the standard of servicing purely their own interests, disregarding the interests of others) of our Western "partners" is increasingly getting out.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 13 October 2015 16: 22 New
    69
    Vladimir Putin is the god of Ukrainians. Otherwise, how to explain that they connect all the changes in their life exclusively with him.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 13 October 2015 16: 23 New
      52
      Quote: herruvim
      Vladimir Putin is the god of Ukrainians. Otherwise, how to explain that they connect all the changes in their life exclusively with him.

      That's right .... So it is!
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 13 October 2015 16: 23 New
        32
        I’m not a poet or a writer, I’m just learning (Do not judge strictly),
        написал стихотворение на злобу дня в категории: "Военный Юмор против врагов России!"
        To Your Court - Verse of the prose of life - solidarity with the President of Russia:
        ................................................. * Inspired by the Great Russian Poet A.S. PUSHKIN
        .............Читайте еженедельник "Домино на селе" /мой псевдоним В.В.ПУшТИН-Байконурский/
        ..................................................Рубрика "Записки старого степного космонавта"

        "Мой ОТветка ГринГейГнидам и ГейроГнусам (ГГГиГГ)!"

        I, V.V. PushTIN -
        THEY pale * house trumpet reeling,
        THEIR DRUM the scent trampled in
        THEIR African American tambourine pounded
        THEIR mattress maliciously, tore to shreds,
        They burned their greenfant
        THEIR HozdEpardamend chicken brain jackhammer hollowed on
        their sanctions spit
        their capitol scrap picking
        IX congressman, senator, governor-terminator cheek pinched,
        Their general, the admiral turned on our Admiralty spire (in St. Petersburg),
        They broke their leg in 46 places, then forced them to walk (did not let them grow together),
        THEIR mom and dad and grandparents ... called to visit, cookies with tea, offered a hookah!

        IH - invited ALL! (to meet, sit, drink, smoke, calmly think things over, discuss,
        ..................... understand, forgive, then about a stupid BAR-BASHKA stool and break all the bottles,
        ..................... with all the dope kirszachy beat off all internal organs, knock out all teeth and
        ..................... back, the first flight, in a galvanized coffin, with the best send!)

        They waited, waited, waited ...

        DO NOT COME!
        Why?
        Or maybe they like it? perverts!
        Or maybe it’s just - boyki-gray-nippers ?!

        I, to them, FSHAkalam, gave advice:
        so that they do not fit anywhere!
        his grunter in all the holes did not pop!
        normally, I would live together, work, I would not bother anyone,
        hamburger, French fries, ate Coca-Cola, drank and slept peacefully!

        And then, I in their guantanoma and all of them replanted, and showed heavenly life!
        lash, camels, DRY, ARMATS, grenade launchers, mortars, Navy,
        NARROWS, YARS, ISKANDERS, Mace, SPACE ROCKETS punished!
        На иХ могила "ТЮЛЬПАН" и "ХРИЗАНТЭМа" поклал!
        Табличку "МИРУ-МИР" написал,
        "ТОЧКУ-У" поставил.
        _____
        PS: In short, on all of them and their upbringing, their lizunov - I - laid and cried with emotion!
        *бледный - читаетс"Я" и произноситс"Я" по-русски.
        ______________________________________________________________________________
        - I edited it for a long time, I hope moderators will like it! It seems everything is politically correct!
        . (if anything, paint over with a marker, please!)

        .................................................. .......... Regards, URA-patriot, M.E.N.!
        .................................................. ../ Vezhliff Vissarionovich PUSHTIN-Baikonursky /
        1. meriem1
          meriem1 13 October 2015 17: 41 New
          +3
          Baikonur ... SUPER !!! I'm under the table!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. Throw
            Throw 13 October 2015 18: 26 New
            +8
            It is necessary to tell the head of the Kosmodromovskaya medical unit to reduce the dose ...
            wassat
        2. Petrov the son
          Petrov the son 13 October 2015 18: 57 New
          +1
          Good! I like it!
        3. veksha50
          veksha50 13 October 2015 20: 55 New
          +3
          Quote: Baikonur
          Sincerely, URA-patriot, M.E.N.!



          Damn ... a futurist ... and a pervert (this is for Pushkin, who inspired his thoughts) ...

          But he put a plus ... laughed and delivered a positive for the night ... Continue on in the same vein ...
      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 13 October 2015 16: 25 New
        +5
        Попытки притянуть РФ к гражданской войне на Окраине прекратятся не скоро. Еще много раз придется "выразить удивление".
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 13 October 2015 16: 37 New
          +4
          oleg-gr
          Попытки притянуть РФ к гражданской войне на Окраине прекратятся не скоро. Еще много раз придется "выразить удивление".

          Correctly! Do not get hung up on trying to make us extreme! Although the jackals are howling ... and the caravan must go further!
          Но всё равно..."ОБЫДНО, ДА"!
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 13 October 2015 17: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Vladimir Putin is the god of Ukrainians.

        The most interesting thing is that we have already complied with the only condition of the Minsk Agreements that Russia was obliged to fulfill: Russia was to force LDNR to AGREE for the elections according to Kiev law and within the time frame that Kiev will appoint - and they agreed.
        Merkel and Hollande are all in s not and flow around!
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 13 October 2015 16: 24 New
      11
      It’s much easier to shift to us and say: “Look, you have to strengthen, triple and harden».

      Putin's hint that Russia will never be six in front of the West! yes
      In general, he coolly trolled the USA at the expense of our air strikes in Syria.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 13 October 2015 16: 28 New
      13
      Look, you have to triple, harden .... This is not for us, this is for kaklam, they are six of the West.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 13 October 2015 17: 00 New
        +6
        In general, money should be tripled, hardened, shorter, invested in the restoration of Ukraine by women-idiots: Ashton, Merkel, Morgeni, Nuland from their own pockets and recently borrowing bills. It was they who took an active part in organizing the riots.
    4. St Petrov
      St Petrov 13 October 2015 16: 40 New
      10
      And I think that power is in Putin, who has the stronger Putin.
      1. kizhe
        kizhe 13 October 2015 17: 07 New
        +2
        And who has Putin? AND ?
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 13 October 2015 17: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: kizhe
          And who has Putin? AND ?

          Where are you, huh?
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 13 October 2015 16: 47 New
      +1
      Выступая на ежегодном экономическом форуме «Россия зовёт!», проводимом под эгидой "ВТБ-Капитал", российский президент заявил о своём немалом удивлении, когда someone is trying to "urge the Russian Federation to implement the Minsk agreements"

      Some Western non-journalists, as well as their colleagues from Banderstat, are trying to promote schizophrenic nonsense (by order of the Americans), relying on the fact that most Western respondents did not see a clear list of the Minsk agreements in their eyes. Well, they are trying to powder the brains of the entire Western public. Only here is the Internet weapon
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=86KlfOqFDhA
    7. SPACE
      SPACE 13 October 2015 16: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: herruvim
      Vladimir Putin is the god of Ukrainians.

      But all the time to say that Russia must fulfill them becomes ridiculous.

      Well, not for himself, he composed the Minsk agreements, in the late hour, half past twelve, seven thousand above the ground ...))
      1. jjj
        jjj 13 October 2015 17: 48 New
        +1
        Vladimir Vladimirovich also said that they asked the United States to give the coordinates of places in Syria where it is impossible to bomb. They refused in this
        1. skaramaks27
          skaramaks27 13 October 2015 18: 31 New
          +1
          But on this issue I will ask in more detail! If you can’t bomb there ... then there ... everyone understands the extent of his depravity
    8. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 13 October 2015 19: 04 New
      0
      There is no alternative to the Minsk agreements. But all the time talking about the fact that Russia must fulfill them becomes ridiculous. This is becoming frivolous, not funny, just ridiculous. There are many problems there, but the vast majority of them are not in our competence. Our colleagues in Europe and the United States see it or not?


      They are either pretending.
      1. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 14 October 2015 16: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        They are either pretending.

        If the filter eats some expressions, then write in English letters)))
  2. jaguarstas
    jaguarstas 13 October 2015 16: 24 New
    +7
    I support this opinion.
    Moreover, every time Russia takes responsibility for one or another demand of the West, the West becomes more and more impudent.
    Теперь уже на Путина "повесили" поднимающиеся цены на нефть. Предела абсурду не будет. Потому что Запад - это театр абсурда. Он этим живет.
  3. Vend
    Vend 13 October 2015 16: 24 New
    +5
    I think this is not a matter of double standards. The fact is that the West wants to shift the responsibility for Ukraine to Russia. Like you pull it out of shit, and then we will accept them in the EU and NATO. The US and the EU must deal with Ukraine themselves. You can’t keep the state afloat with your Nazi regime, divide Ukraine. To each according to ability and position laughing and forget about what happened. Or pretend we forgot
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 13 October 2015 17: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: Wend
      Like you pull it out of shit, and then we will accept them in the EU and NATO.

      Here they are clearly a bummer!
      In this form, it’s only a suitcase without a handle for them, but Russia WILL NOT throw money into the upsurge of the Ukrainian economy - they themselves have fallen off, they’ll be restored!
      The whole question is, HOW to make this euro a shame to invest in the Ukrainian economy - by itself, no one will invest in this power ...
  4. Zai pali
    Zai pali 13 October 2015 16: 25 New
    +2
    In 1993, I realized that this country is going a long way. I am not Wang, but I was right.
  5. Ross_ulair
    Ross_ulair 13 October 2015 16: 25 New
    +5
    And do not give a damn about them.
    And so it is clear that the West will never tolerate a strong Russia at hand, will never recognize its own participation in the collapse of Ukraine.

    The import substitution is going according to plan, the country is not starving, the defense industry is getting stronger, and the crisis in the economy ... will pass smile
    "Война - это все приходяще, а музыка вечна" (с) Маэстро
  6. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 13 October 2015 16: 26 New
    0
    It’s much easier to shift to us and say: “Look, you have to strengthen, triple and harden there”.

    Угу. Сами говорящие перед Вашингтоном "ушестеряют" и нас пытаются заставить...
  7. N-SKiy
    N-SKiy 13 October 2015 16: 28 New
    +1
    The West does not call itself to implement Minsk-2, because it supports Ukraine? ..

    From Ukrainians infected.
  8. solvi
    solvi 13 October 2015 16: 35 New
    +4
    A few questions:
    Почему запад не призовет самого себя урегулировать конфликт в Сирии политическим путем, разве не он финансирует, тренирует и вооружает террористов? Вон намедни несколько тонн оружия скинули "умеренной оппозиции" (они их, наверное, по цвету тюрбанов отличают)
    Why should Russia finance Ukraine, which the West has rolled to zero with its external governance?
    Why does the West never take responsibility for anything even when it destroys the statehood of entire countries?
    1. Mik-51
      Mik-51 13 October 2015 17: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: solvi
      Why does the West never take responsibility for anything even when it destroys the statehood of entire countries?



      A rhetorical question, try to answer for yourself.
      But Russia needs to act more often as in Syria and Ukraine.
  9. veksha50
    veksha50 13 October 2015 16: 37 New
    10
    And then December is approaching and the time of the return of Russia of 3 lard green wrappers (or Eureka?) ... And already Russia has loudly declared that it will not accept any talk about debt restructuring ...

    Так вот и сейчас приплетут это нежелание России "помочь" агрессору-побирушке (а как еще Уркаину назвать ?) также подрывом Минских словоблудий и договоренностей ???

    Where is Merkel and Hollande ??? Where is Storage and Germany ??? Where, in the end, is this Shtatovskii infection, whose money is this mess made ??

    PS All these claims suggest some stupid thoughts ... Here comes the district policeman and says: on the outskirts of the city (in that micro-district) two neighbors fought ... Do you know one of them ??? Well, I know ... So why didn’t I take measures so that they did not fight ??? Here you have it for the beginning of 15 days (as sanctions), through the court, naturally ... And remember - if they start to fight again - we will put you in five years ... Theater of the absurd ...
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 13 October 2015 16: 40 New
    +2
    Russia is not a party to the conflict, to demand something from it. A more serious hysteria is a hysteria of those who are losing, or rather, have already lost the world leadership of the United States. So the behavior of the United States and the West did not come as “sudden” and “shock to Putin,” no matter how much the Ukrainian media and the West would like.
  11. Zoriz
    Zoriz 13 October 2015 16: 44 New
    +4
    Well, in principle, Russia can fulfill ALL Minsk agreements .... By the forces of the Central Military District and the Black Sea Fleet ... But the question is: Will Geyope and NATE need this ??? It’s time for the hospod to think unconventional orientals before saying something ....
  12. cniza
    cniza 13 October 2015 16: 45 New
    +6
    [quote = veksha50]
    Where is Merkel and Hollande ??? Where is Storage and Germany ??? Where, in the end, is this Shtatovskii infection, whose money is this mess made ??


    They giggle on the sidelines and dream that good Russia will not abandon the fraternal people and will tear themselves ...
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 13 October 2015 16: 49 New
    +2
    Западные "партнёры" любят прикидываться шлангом. Всё время придумывают для России требования одно абсурднее другого. Но, конечно, самое любимые - это не выполнение минских соглашений, не называя какие конкретно пункты соглашения взяла на себя Россия. Мы говорим таких нет, а они с упорством маньяка - есть! Раз Путин плохой, значит есть. Там прописано, что надо вернуть Крым укропам, там написано, что Россия должна внести изменение в украинскую конституцию, там написано, что Россия должна согласовать эти изменения с Донбассом. Всё написано, а Путин, редиска, не выполняет. Ату его санкциями. Демократическими санкциями. А он всё равно не выполняет. В таких условиях ЕС невозможно работать - гонит и гонит газ в Европу, супостат проклятый. Да ешё нападает на прибалтов, Норвегию и, о Боже, на Англию с Австралией! Штаты вообще не знают как от него отбиться.э Всё утыкали базами, заметьте, мирными, ни против кого не направленными, а он всё наскакивает и наскакивает.
  14. Oman 47
    Oman 47 13 October 2015 16: 49 New
    +2
    Провести своеобразную (дело долгое) "трепанацию черепной коробки" Запада всеми доступными способами: экономическими, психологическими, военными, - с одной целью.
    Чтобы вовек забыли это дурное словосочетание "Россия ДОЛЖНА..." hi

    However, flat brains understand and respect only STRONG.
  15. Koronik
    Koronik 13 October 2015 16: 51 New
    +6
    ." Владимир Путин напомнил, что Россия не является стороной конфликта на Украине, о чём, по словам российского президента, говорит и официальная позиция, а не кулуарные сплетни, Киева".

    Что же они "родимые"будут делать,когда всё это в хохляндии закончится.Думаю, как будто бы ничего не бывало напомнят Россиянам что мы один народ,хорошо если попросят прощения. "Что заставило украинцев так поступить? Почему они с такой легкостью перечеркнули все наше с ними совместное прошлое, почему пошли за историческими ничтожествами? Пропаганда англо-саксов сделала свое дело? Не надо упрощать. Если не познаем суть явления, оно повторится. Не сомневайтесь.... Украинское нацистское государство должно быть уничтожено. Только тотальный военный разгром, как Германии в 45-м. С последующей денацификацией. Иного выхода нет"
  16. Old warrior
    Old warrior 13 October 2015 16: 55 New
    +4
    zae ..... la already this usraina ....
    And reading about it is not interesting ...
    there is no such country for me.
  17. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 13 October 2015 17: 01 New
    +1
    I have not seen the agreement. Is there a signature of Russia there or not?
    If Russia does not have a signature, then there is nothing to fulfill.
    But if there is, then it is already interesting.
    I could show this piece of paper. )
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 October 2015 17: 33 New
      -4
      There are 5 signatures.
      One of them is Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Zurabov

      Full text here:
      http://gordonua.com/news/politics/CHto-podpisali-v-Minske-po-Donbassu-Polnyy-tek
      st-dokumentov-66263.html
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 13 October 2015 18: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        One of them is Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Zurabov

        I still did not understand why Ukraine should comply with these agreements signed by the Former President of the country. The status of LD Kuchma is determined by what agreements or appointments ..............
      2. glavnykarapuz
        glavnykarapuz 14 October 2015 17: 34 New
        0
        Интересная должность - "Второй Президент Украины". wink
      3. Awaz
        Awaz 14 October 2015 21: 19 New
        0
        these are the signatures of the tripartite contact group. I just don’t distinguish where there are three sides. Well, although rather it is Zurabov Kuchma and Finnish. Since the junta refuses to negotiate with Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky. But according to Minsk 2, they must conduct direct negotiations with Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky. And at the official level. This is one of the main conditions. And if you read the text, it’s not there that Russia is obliged to do something. These three are like seconds. With all three, there is no demand.
  18. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 13 October 2015 17: 08 New
    +1
    Further, Putin noted that the West sees the see, but at the same time all the problems of Ukraine consciously trying to shift to Russia.

    Western haulage from the fact that something needs to be done with Russia, but it is scary. But, most likely, they will make a forceful decision in Ukraine, because Russia is their number one hindrance. Yet, they are still ripening.
  19. kizhe
    kizhe 13 October 2015 17: 16 New
    +1
    Again, the GDP shut up the geyropeytsev. A simple fuck. So they will receive (as long as moral) plumes if they do not learn to move the gyrus.
  20. X Y Z
    X Y Z 13 October 2015 17: 52 New
    +1
    Yes, the requirements for Russia to fulfill the Minsk agreements are extremely ridiculous, but more ridiculous statements are used in information wars. I must say that the West used this call quite effectively and zombified many of them. The question arises why we did not act so effectively and did not initially require Germany and France to implement the Minsk agreements in the form of pressure on Poroshenko. This should have been done not now, but much earlier with the involvement of the press. We are late.
  21. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 13 October 2015 17: 58 New
    +1
    The West itself misled in Ukraine, when its representatives lied on the Maidan about the upcoming European standard of living, and they themselves brought to power the junta with the help of trained Bandera fascists, who, in addition to killing and robbing, are incapable of anything.
    And now they’re blaming their shit on Russia.
    The West has no honor, no conscience, no shame, they are trying to become rich in the blood of the people of Ukraine.
    Даже слушать их враньё противно, но правильные выводы ,чего следует ожидать от этих "партнеров" сделать надо обязательно.
  22. beer-youk
    beer-youk 13 October 2015 18: 10 New
    +2
    "...когда кто-то пытается «призвать Российскую Федерацию выполнять Минские соглашения»".

    Likewise, urge the United States to implement the agreements of the Galactic Conflict Conference on Alpha Centauri.
    Calling for the implementation of someone’s agreement a country whose signature is not under the agreement is the height of idiocy!
  23. mamont5
    mamont5 13 October 2015 18: 44 New
    0
    "Владимир Путин: Требования к России выполнять Минские соглашения выглядят нелепо"

    So Svidomity did not read these agreements, because Piglet hid this piece of paper as soon as he returned to Kuev, otherwise they would beat (kill).
  24. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 13 October 2015 19: 34 New
    +1
    how so the descendants of the ancient UKRA lost to Spain, did they come up with football?
  25. roskot
    roskot 13 October 2015 19: 37 New
    +1
    The logic of dill flew out when they started to jump. You can no longer help them.
  26. cergey51046
    cergey51046 13 October 2015 22: 40 New
    0
    May Germany and France comply with these agreements.
  27. Wolka
    Wolka 14 October 2015 07: 15 New
    0
    nobody canceled that comment, formal logic, Putin showed it clearly by giving answers to questions asked to him, is it worth it after that to puff out his cheeks and blow bubbles ...
  28. win
    win 14 October 2015 15: 28 New
    +2
    Изначально не надо было лезть в ихние разборки. Для Запада - это лишние темы для пакостей. Надо сразу отвечать "грузите апельсины бочках..."
  29. solidus
    solidus 14 October 2015 16: 04 New
    -3
    Why ridiculous? We directly support the unrecognized republics, we make all the main decisions for them. in fact, we are a party to the conflict, no matter what Putin says. that is why the packages of the Minsk agreements were agreed with us and with our participation. In this situation, Putin's words are an example of a policy of double standards.
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 14 October 2015 16: 34 New
      0
      Maybe we arranged the Maidan in Kiev according to yours, in order to support the unrecognized republics later ??? Or, at the direction of Putin, were they created after normal people began to wave weapons there? And what could Russia do after all the crap started there ?.
      1. solidus
        solidus 14 October 2015 17: 01 New
        -2
        Quote: Tartar 174
        Maybe we arranged Maidan in Kiev
        no

        Quote: Tartar 174
        Or, as directed by Putin, they are created
        yes, exactly according to the scenario with the PMR (Transnistrian Moldavian Republic)
        Quote: Tatar 174
        And what could Russia do after all the crap started there ?.
        Вопрос стоит перефразировать " Что оставалось делать верхушке власти чтобы удержать свои позиции на фоне внедрения западной идеологии " все сделано правильно.
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 14 October 2015 19: 36 New
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          scratching turnip ... winked
  30. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 14 October 2015 17: 31 New
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    Quote: solidus
    Why ridiculous? We directly support the unrecognized republics, we make all the main decisions for them. in fact, we are a party to the conflict, no matter what Putin says. that is why the packages of the Minsk agreements were agreed with us and with our participation. In this situation, Putin's words are an example of a policy of double standards.

    Вот что это за "персонаж"? Иметь наглость писать от имени народа(МЫ). И всё и про всех этому "персонажу" ясно/понятно. таких "чудиков" лечить надо... принудительно(или просто в зубы дать), чтобы за всех не говорили.
    1. solidus
      solidus 14 October 2015 17: 49 New
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      Quote: glavnykarapuz
      . forcibly (or simply give in the teeth),

      It reflects the policy of our country: We are for Peace!
    2. glavnykarapuz
      glavnykarapuz 15 October 2015 15: 44 New
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      about! minus from solidus or from another liberal?
      1. solidus
        solidus 19 October 2015 14: 34 New
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        I'm not here for the pros and cons, so do not get me into your ratings)
  31. skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 16 October 2015 13: 56 New
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    Quote: herruvim
    Vladimir Putin is the god of Ukrainians. Otherwise, how to explain that they connect all the changes in their life exclusively with him.

    The wholefather was angry with Piglet with an egg and it became not good for the Ukrainians: he introduced a food embargo, banned civil aviation flights, he is trying to turn over the invested money ...
    And Ukrainians sold their soul to the devil:
  32. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 16 October 2015 16: 42 New
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    If you look like this, then if the West tells Russia to solve the problems of Ukraine, can it be considered that the West believes that Ukraine is part of Russia, otherwise, what the hell out of another country to solve the problems of a third country if they are not carriers of democracy?
    1. solidus
      solidus 19 October 2015 14: 36 New
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      The West is telling Russia to solve the problem of Ukraine, because Russia directly supports the opposition in eastern Ukraine and is a party to the conflict.