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In Cairo, signed a contract for the supply of "Mistral"

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Last Saturday, an agreement was signed in Cairo for Egypt to purchase two Mistral helicopter carriers, originally built by the French company DCNS for Russia, reports bmpd blog with reference to the publication of Le Point.




The contract parameters are not officially disclosed, it is only known that both ships will be transferred to the Egyptian side in March 2016. Crew training (400 people) will take the 4 month.

According to the publication, "the actual value of the contract amounts to 950 million euros, and it is mainly funded by Saudi Arabia."

“Delivery to Russia of two helicopter carriers built under the 2011 contract of the year became impossible after the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions by the European Union in August 2014. The contract for the supply of these ships, defended at the shipyard builder STX France in Saint-Nazaire, was officially terminated by the Russian and French parties 5 August 2015, and already 23 August 2015, an agreement was reached to acquire both UDC Egypt, ”reminds the publication.
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  1. Byshido_dis
    Byshido_dis 13 October 2015 12: 52 New
    21
    The main thing is that the Egyptians do not resell them to us later ... this will be a BLOW to all Europeans and Americans ....
    1. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 13 October 2015 12: 55 New
      +4
      Yes, in general, deep down on s..t who bought them the main thing the grandmother returned with a trinity our better to create and build everything!
      1. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 14 October 2015 15: 05 New
        0
        it is necessary to invest in their shipyards ... but the foreshoremen only showed that it is dangerous to cooperate with them, they threw it once, and two
    2. Chaffinch
      Chaffinch 13 October 2015 12: 56 New
      18
      and we need it, especially for money ???
      Our fleet has other tasks.
      It's better to stick to this loot of small boats with "calibers" all over the world ocean!
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 13 October 2015 13: 05 New
        +2
        In order to arrange such ships across the ocean - we need support bases, but we have catastrophically few of them.
        1. shtanko.49
          shtanko.49 13 October 2015 14: 18 New
          +2
          It’s necessary that they fly for 5000, then the bases are not needed. Fill more in Petya and similar ships, here are the bases.
    3. Yuri from Volgograd
      Yuri from Volgograd 13 October 2015 12: 56 New
      13
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      The main thing is that the Egyptians do not resell them to us later ... this will be a BLOW to all Europeans and Americans ....

      Do not sell. There are many obligations.
      The main thing is now ours to sell devices to this trough (helicopters, equipment), because the Russified highways are imprisoned for our tasks and, accordingly, our weapons.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 13 October 2015 13: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
        Do not sell. There are many obligations.

        You are certainly right, but there were also contracts for the construction of the Mistral, however ......
        What prevents Egypt from imposing sanctions against the Hrenzuza? Theoretically, nothing ...
    4. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 13 October 2015 12: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      The main thing is that the Egyptians do not resell them to us later ... this will be a BLOW to all Europeans and Americans ....

      don't ... they’ve got us
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 13 October 2015 13: 08 New
        +1
        And I once sincerely rejoiced that we would have such gizmos.
        But after their attitude to us and to the agreements reached with us, let them "float" on them.
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 13 October 2015 13: 28 New
        +7
        Well, this is so, only the specific Syria and the BDK of the 4 fleets are working to the limit, making 2 flights per month each. And the reserve for building up the group is no longer there, the rest is either in repair or in the database in its fleet.

        You can’t use civilian contractors - because, under the law of the sea, when passing through other people's waters (Turkey), they are legally stopped and inspected. Turkey imposed sanctions against Assad and Syria, on this basis, the cargo will either be arrested and returned after a long trial, or the ship with the cargo will be deployed towards the point of departure. Although there Peter, Kuzya and Moscow will prank in the straits - these are international laws that Russia has also signed.
        1. marlin1203
          marlin1203 13 October 2015 14: 11 New
          +5
          Good idea. But you can consider introducing into the Navy a pair of dry cargo vessels or container ships in the auxiliary fleet. Raise the Andreev flag, guis and let them try to inspect. soldier
        2. twviewer
          twviewer 13 October 2015 14: 28 New
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          You can’t use civilian contractors - because under the law of the sea, when passing through other people's waters (Turkey), they are legally stopped and inspected. Turkey imposed sanctions against Assad and Syria, on this basis, the cargo will either be arrested and returned after a long trial, or the ship with the cargo will be deployed towards the point of departure.

          Contractors are not allowed, but renting with transfer to the Navy is possible, of course, you will have to tinker with pieces of paper, but here, as they say, the one who wants is looking for opportunities and who does not want it - excuses :)
        3. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 October 2015 15: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          And the reserve for building up the group is no longer there, the rest is either in repair or in the database in its fleet.

          Nuuu .... there is one reserve. And it seems that this year this attraction will be torn off from the mooring wall. smile
          Quote: donavi49
          You can’t use civilian contractors - because, under the law of the sea, when passing through other people's waters (Turkey), they are legally stopped and inspected.

          Not everything is so sad ... Here, for example, what does the ferry "Alexander Tkachenko" of the company "SMT Crimea" do after the closing of the tourist season in Crimea:

          Pomnitsa, when this photo appeared, everyone wondered why Syria needed "Urals", PAZs and tanks ... smile

          But a ro-ro vessel as part of the Navy under the flag of the auxiliary fleet would be more reliable, yes. Moreover, for him, and without the Syrian express, enough work.
        4. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 13 October 2015 15: 30 New
          0
          .... You can’t use civil contractors - because of the law of the sea, ...

          .... The fleet may include quite civilian cargo ships ..... Question of the flag .... Withdraw from civil registration and make the ship supply the Navy ..... As an option ....
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    6. Maxom75
      Maxom75 13 October 2015 13: 22 New
      +1
      I support, the main thing is that we do not get this "miracle" of French technology. It's not a problem to buy equipment, it's a problem to service it later. That's the whole point.
    7. marlin1203
      marlin1203 13 October 2015 14: 22 New
      +1
      The main thing is that they bought an air wing of 50 helicopters from us, and then were serviced for another 50 years ... not free ... laughing
  2. andj61
    andj61 13 October 2015 12: 54 New
    +4
    В Kire Mistral Supply Contract signed

    Moderators - please correct: after all, in Cairo ...
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 13 October 2015 13: 10 New
      +1
      For the first second I thought "in Cyprus". And then he opened the news.
  3. LM66
    LM66 13 October 2015 12: 54 New
    +2
    In such contracts, everything is stipulated, it is impossible to resell to anyone, not cheese in the end
  4. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 13 October 2015 12: 55 New
    +3
    Or maybe it was all conceived ... We will help them equip them! BUT THERE IS WHY THEY ARE THEM ..? They’ll drown after the first opportunity ... bully
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 13 October 2015 13: 00 New
      0
      In Mira signed a contract for the supply of "Mistral"
      Where is it? Have they signed an agreement in Iran?
      According to the publication, "the actual value of the contract amounts to 950 million euros, and it is mainly funded by Saudi Arabia."
      Who will give the Saudis money, is it possible that Amers are so rich that they would make such purchases through intermediaries?
    2. Koshak
      Koshak 13 October 2015 13: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Or maybe it was all conceived ... We will help them equip them! BUT THERE IS WHY THEY ARE THEM ..? They’ll drown after the first opportunity ... bully

      Obviously, the Mistals did not last long. At one time in the war with Israel, how many Egyptians of Soviet technology prosrali. And basically it was not combat losses, but everything was stupidly abandoned.
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 13 October 2015 13: 24 New
      0
      Who will drown? Hussites from the Metis / Competition? Or Caliphate from Cornet? Or maybe Dawn of Libya with recoilless / MiG-25 cast iron? These are all likely opponents and areas of application of ships.

      So they got a whole FREMM in the escort + Rafali + they bought Govindas to the Mistrals (which cost more than the Mistrals).

      There is peace and harmony with Israel, until cooperation in the Sinai and the active development of the Israel-Egypt military-technical cooperation.
  5. bocsman
    bocsman 13 October 2015 12: 56 New
    +7
    They will be leased along with their home base in Egypt.
  6. bvi1965
    bvi1965 13 October 2015 12: 59 New
    +2
    Until March, a lot of time, and suddenly with laughing some kind of anchor ...
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2015 12: 59 New
    +2
    They will also buy "Aligators" for them, for the money of the Saudis, like to protect them. Money for helicopters is better than money for oil ...
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 13 October 2015 13: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They will also buy "Aligators" for them, for the money of the Saudis, like to protect them. Money for helicopters is better than money for oil ...

      Also, our equipment, which should have been removed, will also have to be bought.
  8. ilyaches
    ilyaches 13 October 2015 13: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    They will also buy "Aligators" for them, for the money of the Saudis, like to protect them. Money for helicopters is better than money for oil ...


    I agree, we’ll fix our budget a little drinks
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  10. Zmii
    Zmii 13 October 2015 13: 03 New
    +1
    Why is Kira a new yacht? And more than one?
    1. reservist
      reservist 13 October 2015 18: 42 New
      0
      or maybe a catamaran will make a budet of two yachts? wassat
  11. ssn18
    ssn18 13 October 2015 13: 04 New
    +1
    Well, maybe these menstruals really need Egypt so much. I think that we still have the design documentation for these galoshes and, if necessary, it will be possible to build something better.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 October 2015 13: 21 New
      +1
      Since the 2013 of the year, the Nevskoye Design Bureau has been easily encroaching on naval projects with advance projects. Generally +7 years from the beginning of financing to the lead ship and try to accommodate the price in 500 million dollars per ship - this is the application of the Nevsky Design Bureau.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2015 15: 31 New
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Since 2013, the Nevskoye Design Bureau has been engulfing the Navy with advance projects. In general, they will try to accommodate a price of $ 7 million per ship for 8-500 years from the start of financing to the lead ship - this is the application of the Nevsky Design Bureau.

        Yeah ... and this is the second approach to the projectile. Earlier, the Nevskoye PKB tried to offer its alternative to the "mistrals" ordered at that time, but domestic shipyards said that no places - all suitable slipways are occupied, there is nowhere to lay the ship. And looking at "Gren" - you can understand them. smile
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 13 October 2015 13: 05 New
    +2
    now Egypt has already got two floating resort-hotels, now they will go by the sea and ride tourists bully
    1. smoke break
      smoke break 13 October 2015 13: 46 New
      0
      How in China from "Minsk" and "Novorossiysk" they will make a museum of the French Navy and a casino!))))
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  13. Masya masya
    Masya masya 13 October 2015 13: 07 New
    +3
    "Mistral" what series?
  14. alstr
    alstr 13 October 2015 13: 10 New
    +1
    But it’s interesting, do they also have captains on such ships or will they also be trained in 4 months?
    I looked at their composition and found nothing more than 5000 tons. But 5 thousand tons and 20 thousand tons, even in management, are significantly different.
    1. Ronino
      Ronino 13 October 2015 17: 47 New
      0
      Here everyone is sitting and scratching turnips ...
      Like a fish needs a bicycle ?
  15. kirpich
    kirpich 13 October 2015 13: 11 New
    0
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    Or maybe it was all conceived ... We will help them equip them! BUT THERE IS WHY THEY ARE THEM ..? They’ll drown after the first opportunity ... bully


    And control of two seas at once? Oh, the Suez Canal? No, everything is correct, although I thought that India would be the first to hurry up. India needs the Mistral
  16. Bradypodidae
    Bradypodidae 13 October 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    What the Saudis say to Egypt, he will do with these ships. Maybe it will be like a ship providing pin-dos and their sixes. And what about I. Gren? When the contract with the Mistrals was just negotiated, it was already under construction, Mistral had long been ready, even oversold, and I.Gren what?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 October 2015 13: 19 New
      +3
      By the day of the Navy 2016 - a real entry into the fleet.

      Prikaznoy under the tree - otherwise without prizes everyone will be sad to celebrate the new year. The first exit to the ZHI is December (formally, to close the task on the 1 exit and surrender - but the fleet will accept it by the spring of 2016 - everyone is happy, everyone with bonuses wink ).

      "An order has been signed today to start mooring tests, which we plan to complete at the end of November and move on to factory sea trials. By the end of the year, the ship will be handed over to the Navy", - said Mikhailov.
      1. Bradypodidae
        Bradypodidae 13 October 2015 13: 27 New
        +1
        Thank you for the info. As everything is familiar. In 2002, they built the pumping station for SurgutNeftegaz. They handed over before the New Year. Early. Working prize, the administration of the PREMIA. And really, they brought to mind only by September next year.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2015 15: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        Prikaznoy under the tree - otherwise without prizes everyone will be sad to celebrate the new year. The first exit to the ZHI is December (formally, to close the task at the 1st exit and surrender - but the fleet will accept it by the spring of 2016 - everyone is happy, everyone with wink bonuses).

        Yep ... December 31 - rent, December 32 - rent, December 33 - rent ... December 50 - the object was commissioned!
  17. roskot
    roskot 13 October 2015 13: 15 New
    0
    Frenchmen shed their headache. Now in Egypt they will rust.
  18. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 13 October 2015 13: 15 New
    0
    Hollande rubs his hands ... He shook off the paddling pool still ... France in general, what time, he throws money at the Arabs ... And they clap their ears! (It would be better if they bought a couple dozen missile boats ...) Well, okay, not ours money will not threaten us .. And to whom? bully Israel is already reprogramming rockets, rubbing their hands to calluses! (it wasn’t obvious without them ..))))
  19. fridge
    fridge 13 October 2015 13: 21 New
    0
    Observe the fate of the Mistrals! With all the negativity to the crap, they didn’t have the likeness of Gorbachev and EBN, ours would be launched into scrap metal cutting. One is insulting how much resources were invested in the defense industry, funds torn off from the people, and then they were cutting up for scrap or simply withdrawing loot abroad.
  20. njvlin
    njvlin 13 October 2015 13: 25 New
    0
    QUESTION? And will Mistrals be sold with Russian equipment? Or, after all, Russia has dismantled its equipment? IN write a more detailed article on this subject
  21. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 13 October 2015 13: 27 New
    +1
    Since these ships are suitable for sailing in cold waters, is that the Egyptians afraid that the Nile will freeze?
    I don’t understand why they are to them. If the Saudis paid for them, then it’s clear: they don’t look in the teeth for a gift horse.
  22. polite people
    polite people 13 October 2015 13: 28 New
    0
    All that is not being done, all for the better, we will direct funds to more priority projects and directions :))) And as for Mistral, let them float in their channel :)))
    "The boat is floating, swinging ....."














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  24. ermolai
    ermolai 13 October 2015 13: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: theadenter
    To arrange such ships across the ocean, we need support bases, but we have a catastrophically small number of them.

    and such a small bird is placed in a sea container, and it can fly out from a satellite signal, so that it can be transported on simple container ships by the sea-oksiyan, or it can be released from suitable ports.
  25. drundel861
    drundel861 13 October 2015 14: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Byshido_dis
    The main thing is that the Egyptians do not resell them to us later ... this will be a BLOW to all Europeans and Americans ....

    YES to which they are to us? right here they say grandmothers returned and do not hi with the frogs hi
  26. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 13 October 2015 16: 18 New
    0
    The Black Sea Fleet is becoming a full-fledged fleet (the Caspian Flotilla is an integral part of it), the arrival of new boats ("black hole") will make it even stronger, so the Yankees in the Black Sea will simply not increase their grouping, do not consider them idiots, they know very well that the Crimean coastal complexes , if necessary, they will clog up the Bosphorus, the Dardanelles, and the Aegean Sea too. They will not risk breaking the convention on the Black Sea Straits. Therefore, I think they will follow the path that Russia has gone through, begin to strengthen the coastal component in Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, and possibly on the "square". Hence the conclusion: - Russia does not need a Mistral-type trough in the Black Sea, we will build a smaller large landing craft with more pronounced characteristics of a combat ship ourselves, experience has already appeared. Egypt, although not a public one, but almost now an ally and helicopters can only be bought in Russia (to do the same repair), so that we have not lost anything (I even hope we found new technologies!)
  27. mamont5
    mamont5 13 October 2015 18: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Byshido_dis
    The main thing is that the Egyptians do not resell them to us later ... this will be a BLOW to all Europeans and Americans ....

    What for? We do not need them. Until. And if necessary, we’ll build our own even better.