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Syrian Islamists are planning a terrorist attack at a Russian air base in Latakia

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The representative of the Movement for the Liberation of Homs - a faction of the opposition Syrian Free Army, interacting with Al-Qaeda - spoke in an interview with The Daily Beast about plans to introduce a suicide bomber into the staff of the Russian air base in Lattakia.




“At first we will withstand violent aerial bombardments, then we will weaken Russia in all possible ways, including by introducing agents into the armed forces of the regime in order to obtain data on the actions of the Russians. We will carry out operations with the participation of suicide bombers from among the implanted militants, ”he said. "Reedus".

Al-Hourani noted that the strikes of Russian aircraft lead to panic in the ranks of the opposition, and a particularly difficult situation has developed in the enclave between the cities of Homs and Hama in the western region of Syria.

According to him, the militants of the Movement for the Liberation of Homs and the Islamic State are in the dense environment of government units and are subjected to constant air strikes. To counter them, they need to get information about the plans of the troops of Bashar Assad and the Russian military from the inside.

In addition, Al-Hourani appealed to the United States with a request for the supply of modern weapons, in particular, air defense, stressing that the military wing of the Movement for the Liberation of Homs closely cooperates with Al-Qaeda, but is not part of the "Islamic State ".

The Pentagon and NATO have repeatedly repeatedly accused the Russian Federation of attacks on the so-called moderate Syrian opposition, while the data on exactly where their positions are and has not followed. Moreover, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg could not name any armed group that would fight against the Assad regime, not cooperating with the IG and Al-Qaida.
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  1. teron
    teron 13 October 2015 12: 19 New
    35
    "...боевое крыло «Движения за освобождение Хомса» тесно взаимодействует с «Аль-Каидой», но не входит в состав «Исламского государства»."

    No, well then everything is fine. These are moderate, for democracy. The fool is clear.
    1. Orel
      Orel 13 October 2015 12: 23 New
      -128
      It is not clear what we are counting on there.

      I believe that our main goal in Syria is not ISIS (the international coalition has bombed ISIL for more than a year, and there is no result, it is naive to believe that something will change here from the participation of our Air Force). So the main goal is different. The main goal is to keep Assad's regime in power, at all costs. That means they will bomb everyone who opposes Assad, and this is not only ISIS, but also other opposition groups, including those opposing Assad and ISIS. So we are no longer fighting terrorism, but are becoming participants in the civil war, one of the parties to the civil war. What are the consequences of such a step, history has shown repeatedly.

      I don’t know who Putin’s adviser to Syria, but we put ourselves in an extremely bad strategic situation, as we refused to participate in the international coalition against ISIS, which has already been created. We decided to act on our own. However, we are not in Syria the force on which the development of events depends, we immediately lose initiative and become a subordinate side. Our position here is extremely vulnerable. We depend on how the situation develops on the land theater of operations, which is not modeled by us, but ISIS, the Syrian opposition, Kurds, Assad’s troops and the international coalition. In an environment where Assad’s army is retreating and losing new areas every year, we may be in a situation of direct military conflict on the ground if Assad’s opponents reach our military bases.

      Давайте представим, что завтра Асад скажет Путину, что армия Сирии истощена, на нескольких участках фронта прорвались ИГИЛ или оппозиция и ему требуется еще большая военная помощь, в том числе и сухопутными войсками, иначе наша авиабаза будет под угрозой. Что ответит Путин? Альтернативы только две: мы направляем в Сирию еще войска, потом еще, потом еще, в том числе и сухопутные, либо мы сворачиваем все операции и уходим из Сирии, что будет восприниматься в мире, как "убежали с мокрыми штанами". Других вариантов нет. И оба варианта плохие. Теперь мы зависим от Асада еще больше, чем он от нас.

      In terms of strategy, we got involved in Syria in a very dangerous game that we will not be able to win. Afghanistan and Vietnam also began with small contingents, but every year they only increased.

      We are gradually getting involved in a foreign civil war, rather than participating in the war on international terrorism.
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 13 October 2015 12: 33 New
        66
        Quote: Orel
        С point of view of strategy, we got involved in Syria in a very dangerous game that we will not be able to win.

        Еще один великий стратег - "всёпропало, мывсеумрём". Поменяй лучше ник с Орла на Страус. Или Петух.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 13 October 2015 12: 36 New
          13
          Penetrator-
          Another strategist:
          apparently at home one channel on a CNN TV box ...
        2. alekc75
          alekc75 13 October 2015 14: 26 New
          +2
          broiler is better
      2. Orel
        Orel 13 October 2015 12: 35 New
        -62
        Why are there so many minuses))) Does everyone here believe that the Syrian army is able to conquer all of Syria with the support of our 30 airplanes and helicopters ??? What did Assad expect these 4 years then, if his army is so strong? 30 planes? Guys. You are crazy. Take off your pink glasses, otherwise you will have to wash your face with blood in the Syrian sands, after the arrival of the summon for the mobilization of reservists.
        1. pofigisst74
          pofigisst74 13 October 2015 12: 39 New
          22
          Do you know what they did to alarmists at all times? Find out.
          1. alekc75
            alekc75 13 October 2015 14: 27 New
            +3
            shoot right away
        2. theadenter
          theadenter 13 October 2015 12: 43 New
          29
          I explain the minus:
          1. It is necessary to restore control of the Syrian government over the territory.
          2. The international coalition did not work with the Syrian government, so neither the first nor the second made progress. (although it’s still questionable whether the goal of the coalition is the destruction of ISIS)
          3. It seems to me that you are here specifically and knowingly verbally turning the situation around.

          I will not say that you are a mishandled Cossack, let other users decide this.
          1. Penetrator
            Penetrator 13 October 2015 12: 59 New
            10
            Quote: theadenter
            1. It is necessary to restore control of the Syrian government over the territory.

            First of all, it is necessary to restore control over the border. To interrupt the supply and replenishment in the ranks of the militants. The rest will follow.
            1. theadenter
              theadenter 13 October 2015 13: 21 New
              +3
              Of course, the main thing is to cut off the militants from the supply routes. But I doubt that the person to whom I answered - these details will be interesting. So desperately pushing his (is it true?) Point of view.
            2. Russiamoy
              Russiamoy 13 October 2015 20: 48 New
              0
              а как вы это представляете? обустройство границы это дорогое удовольствие даже для развитых стран. а для Сирии это вообще невозможно. к тому же ее протяженность в Сирии огромная. СССР мог себе это позволить а вот Россия к сожалению не везде. что говорить о Сирии. хотелось бы услышать что-то оптимистическое. но только общие фразы. а на что? и как? непонятно. к тому же недругов вокруг чересчур уж много. и даже при хорошем раскладе при открытых границах с Турцией и др "соседями" будут продолжатся бандитские и террорестические вылазки экстремистов всех мастей
          2. Maxom75
            Maxom75 13 October 2015 13: 17 New
            +5
            The international coalition bombed both ISIS and the Syrian Army, for the international coalition there is no difference. Now the Syrian army under the umbrella of Russian air defense, that’s perked up. Plus, regular attacks by our Air Force on supply bases, warehouses and convoys of militants significantly weakened their combat potential, and morale. Especially when you know that at any moment a bomb may fall on your head and you cannot stop it.
        3. Oman 47
          Oman 47 13 October 2015 12: 45 New
          15
          Dear Orel!
          You are slightly (to put it mildly!) NOT IN THE TOPIC.
          Went on a business trip, were a month on the islands, or - otherwise cut off from life?
          It's not about kvass patriotism or pink glasses.
          Почитайте для начала подборку на тему "ВКС РФ в Сирии" хотя бы на ВО. Политический, военный расклады и перспективы развития ситуации в Сирии и вокруг неё - terribly far from your ideas.
        4. Penetrator
          Penetrator 13 October 2015 12: 49 New
          17
          Quote: Orel
          Take off your pink glasses, otherwise you will have to wash your face with blood in the Syrian sands, after the arrival of the summon for the mobilization of reservists.

          Насчёт "мобилизации резервистов" ты рассмешил. Хотя, даже при такой гипотетической возможности, тебе это явно не грозит - в случае получения повестки заверещишь: "Я за яхту Абрамовича умирать не намерен!" и сдристнешь в сторону западной границы.
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        6. Homo
          Homo 13 October 2015 12: 56 New
          +8
          Quote: Orel
          Why so many minuses)))

          For a statement based on nothing!
          Quote: Orel
          Does everyone here believe that the Syrian army is capable of conquering all of Syria with the support of our 30 airplanes and helicopters ???

          А ВЫ считаете что бы "навалять" плохо обученным абрекам нужно 100500 самолётов?
          Quote: Orel
          What did Assad expect these 4 years then, if his army is so strong?

          For 4 years, Assad alone fought off the United States, the EU, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, NATO, etc., and now Russia, Iran, and some others have come.
          Quote: Orel
          Take off your pink glasses, otherwise you will have to wash your face with blood in the Syrian sands, after the arrival of the summon for the mobilization of reservists.

          Do you listen to the President? There will be no ground operation!
          Or do you care, are you on your own wave?
        7. Sirocco
          Sirocco 13 October 2015 13: 08 New
          +4
          Quote: Orel
          Does everyone here believe that the Syrian army is capable of conquering all of Syria with the support of our 30 airplanes and helicopters ???

          Does this tell you anything?
          To fight not by numbers, but by skill?
          Once 30 aircraft perform the task, it means A.V. Suvorov lives, we know how to fight.
        8. INGVVAR
          INGVVAR 13 October 2015 13: 08 New
          +7
          Why do you need advantages if you are a minus in life ... The fifth column acted in such a way that generated fear, insecurity, rumors, suspicions, panic. The Syrian army was strong enough and that is why it lasted 4 years. Russia also retreated to Moscow and once even burned it ... Only the final result is completely different ...
        9. perm23
          perm23 13 October 2015 13: 11 New
          +6
          Cons are not for your vision of the problem, but for the fact that there is no need to express such thoughts here. Why think about it. And about washing with blood, it may have to, well, it’s better there than in their cities. I think you as a man should understand this, that you need to protect your family, protect your homeland, and not let the enemy into your house, so that you can expel him from there later. One of my grandfathers after the war said that when they retreated at 41, the old men and women spit after them and shouted that the army was leaving us, running away. Then he reached Kenisberg, the second died at 42. And about Assad’s army, it’s not powerful, it’s normal and aviation is very necessary in such conflicts. Assad did not have it, and there were no pilots or weapons for her. So we can provide very substantial assistance to the ground forces with 30 airplanes. During the Second World War, there was one Messer or the Junkers who caused fear. And when the enemy is afraid and fearful, this is a good groundwork for victory.
        10. Fregate
          Fregate 13 October 2015 13: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: Orel
          Why are there so many minuses))) Does everyone here believe that the Syrian army is able to conquer all of Syria with the support of our 30 airplanes and helicopters ??? What did Assad expect these 4 years then, if his army is so strong? 30 planes? Guys. You are crazy. Take off your pink glasses, otherwise you will have to wash your face with blood in the Syrian sands, after the arrival of the summon for the mobilization of reservists.

          Can you take off the pink glasses from your eagle eye?
          Why when the United States needed to remove Hussein in Iraq and Gaddafi in Libya, they bombed them quickly enough despite the fact that these were states that had their own armies, aviation, and air defense systems. And ISIS, which has neither serious air defense, nor aviation, has been bombing this coalition for two years, and they only capture new territories?
          Почему, те 50-60 бойцов подготовленных США для так называемой "умеренной оппозиции" сразу перешли на сторону ИГИЛ вместе с оружием? И даже не задержались в "оппозиции". Может, потому что нельзя задержаться в том чего нет? И таких почему много.
        11. Maxom75
          Maxom75 13 October 2015 13: 13 New
          +3
          Nobody believes that he can. I think that the Syrian army will be able to stabilize the front. To recapture key cities and highways, and then, with the support of the Iranians, will be able to slowly clean up the entire territory. Maybe Russia will open its Lenglis and begin deliveries of T-72, TOS, BTR, BMP, self-propelled guns from storage depots. The accumulation of military equipment and a stable front will continue the offensive to the east of Syria. In the eastern part of Syria, desert regions prevail, where the superiority in aviation will be more significant than in the western. Assad will have to solve a number of tasks, such as agreeing with the Kurds on the federation, expanding the powers of the Sunnis in power and closing the borders tightly, the passage yard that existed earlier will not allow to save the country. Plus, the restoration of the country and the revision of its guidelines when communicating with neighbors, Assad was faced with the fact that Israel is not the only enemy for Syria (Jordan, Turkey and part of Lebanon). We should try to explain to him that the state of Syria will not survive if it continues to pursue an ideology in the spirit of Iran (we will destroy Israel, and whatever happens). It's time to start thinking and as soon as possible.
        12. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 October 2015 13: 30 New
          +8
          Quote: Orel
          will have to wash themselves with blood in the Syrian sands, after the arrival of the agenda for the mobilization of reservists.

          Уважаемый, для всех вам подобных государство уже позаботилось и приготовило особый вариант "Ратника".
        13. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 13 October 2015 13: 37 New
          0
          "30 самолетов? "
          The ISIS has no and never will.
        14. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 13 October 2015 13: 47 New
          +5
          There are so many minuses for not moving your brains. There are no idiots who will remove the mobilization reserve from their native expanses to remote theaters of war. Your training manual is not perfect.
        15. UREC
          UREC 13 October 2015 14: 15 New
          -1
          set a plus, but it turned out that 7 minuses, well, not a miracle, huh?
          1. northern
            northern 14 October 2015 18: 03 New
            0
            checked on you - minus is normally set.
        16. Evildaddy78
          Evildaddy78 13 October 2015 15: 15 New
          0
          Well, I didn’t convince .... I wouldn’t have sat in the tank with you ... In general, I’d take you out into the open field, put you facing the wall - and a bullet in the forehead.
        17. dilrax
          dilrax 13 October 2015 18: 48 New
          0
          If Assad’s Army wasn’t capable, it wouldn’t have survived 4 years
        18. 8982795roman
          8982795roman 15 October 2015 00: 40 New
          0
          kaolitsiya only pretends to be at war with igil. day bomb the desert at night throw off weapons.
          igil vsegolish instrument of political terror in the hands of the usa wassat
      3. zzz
        zzz 13 October 2015 12: 36 New
        22
        Quote: Orel
        In terms of strategy, we got involved in Syria in a very dangerous game that we will not be able to win

      4. lwxx
        lwxx 13 October 2015 12: 37 New
        +7
        I believe that our main goal in Syria is not ISIS (the international coalition has bombed ISIL for more than a year, and there is no result, it is naive to believe that something will change here from the participation of our Air Force). It seems that you have missed the last two weeks. Well, yes, this is our propaganda: that we have done more in a week than the illegitimate coalition led by the SGA. bully Or firmly believe that partners, oh sorry, colleagues are fighting ISIS? laughing And the calculation is primarily economic, political and military. And about the ground operation, the president clearly outlined our position and I believe him.
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 12: 48 New
          -26
          It seems that you have missed the last two weeks. Well, yes, this is our propaganda: that we have done more in a week than the illegitimate coalition led by the SGA. bully Or firmly believe that partners, oh sorry, colleagues are fighting ISIS?


          I have not missed anything. I just don’t see how we can achieve our goals. The goals are global. Destroy ISIS. Do you believe that 30 planes and helicopters are capable of this ??? Or is the Syrian army capable? (what she did then these 4 years, if so strong). So it turns out that Assad is not able to win, and our military intervention is not able to make a decisive contribution to the victory over ISIS. Then the question. Why is this all? If we are going to get involved in the war, then it’s understandable, but it’s still a dead end.
      5. pofigisst74
        pofigisst74 13 October 2015 12: 37 New
        +8
        "Хороший ты мужик, но не Orel" (с) lol
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 October 2015 17: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: pofigisst74
          You are a good man, but not Orel

          There are different eagles in the world. There are eagles that fly, there are those that feed on carrion(a lot of pecking). Feel the difference!
      6. Batia
        Batia 13 October 2015 12: 38 New
        +4
        I recommend fortune telling on the cards of some fortuneteller. Maybe something more beautifully predicted than your calculations.
      7. northern
        northern 13 October 2015 12: 40 New
        +7
        Ты забыл добавить "путинслилвсепропало", не отвлекайся от методички.
      8. james
        james 13 October 2015 12: 41 New
        +5
        Change the nickname from the eagle to something softer.
      9. Sirocco
        Sirocco 13 October 2015 12: 42 New
        10
        Quote: Orel
        I don’t know who Putin’s adviser to Syria, but we put ourselves in an extremely bad strategic situation, as we refused to participate in the international coalition against ISIS, which has already been created.

        Dear, you didn’t eat whites by chance? Who is it, and who should it join?
        You probably forgot that it was precisely Russia that acts in Syria legitimately, and that it complies with all international obligations.
        Quote: Orel

        In terms of strategy, we got involved in Syria in a very dangerous game that we will not be able to win. Afghanistan and Vietnam also began with small contingents, but every year they only increased.

        Are you not a liberal democrat?
        Obviously, you have one of these habits, everything is gone.
      10. ROD VDVshny
        ROD VDVshny 13 October 2015 12: 44 New
        12
        Quote: Orel
        I don’t know who is Putin’s adviser in Syria,

        well that's not you
        Quote: Orel
        but we put ourselves in an extremely bad strategic situation

        Who are "we? I’m embarrassed to ask ... Does your military education allow you to talk about strategy?
        Quote: Orel
        but we put ourselves in an extremely bad strategic situation, as we refused to participate in the international coalition against ISIS, which has already been created

        Quote: Orel
        We decided to act on our own. However, we are not in Syria the force on which the development of events depends, we immediately lose initiative and become a subordinate side.

        Do you even understand what you are writing? Well, Klitschko is clear, the brains are beaten off. You are contradicting yourself in three lines.
        Being the head of a rat is better than the tail of an elephant (Russian folk wisdom)
        Quote: Orel
        We are gradually getting involved in a foreign civil war, rather than participating in the war on international terrorism.

        Do not read before dinner, at night, and in the morning liberal media
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 12: 56 New
          -17
          Who are "we? I’m embarrassed to ask ... Does your military education allow you to talk about strategy?


          And your military education allows you to believe that 30 aircraft can destroy ISIS?)))
          1. ROD VDVshny
            ROD VDVshny 13 October 2015 13: 18 New
            15
            Quote: Orel
            And your military education allows you to believe that 30 aircraft can destroy ISIS?)))

            My education and some combat experience let me know:
            - if you sit tight in a trench and don’t snarl, then they will first be bombarded with mines, then with hand grenades, eventually they will throw donkey shit ... and they will shoot in the same trench
            - I also think that war is fueled by supplies. Roads are the arteries of war. Transport is her blood. It is necessary not only to pound forehead on the forehead, but also to break down well-functioning mechanisms. No b / p - no shooting. There is no food and water, no rest - no physical strength. No salary - the mercenaries fell out.
            - an adversary who walks to his full height without any concern, overgrows with fortifications, develops infrastructure, impudes, accumulates fats and reserves. He begins to think about gold and white captives, which Russia has a lot of infidels ... so, for me, let him crawl on his belly, dirty and hungry, and think how to save the skin under the bombs, and is it better to squander, because along with the Russian bombs on the ground is the Syrian army.
          2. I am
            I am 13 October 2015 13: 35 New
            +3
            Even 30 aircraft (PO-2) during the Great Patriotic War, controlled by girls, caused awe, fear and respect from the Nazi army. Only in Syria is far from PO-2. Therefore, knowing for what purposes they work, what ammunition they use, and their performance characteristics. it can be assumed that such a quantity is enough to bring another 2 or 3 unfriendly countries in the neighborhood into a non-operational state.
      11. vovanpain
        vovanpain 13 October 2015 12: 46 New
        12
        Of course, you’re an outstanding strategist and analyst, but thank God, the position of an ostrich with his head in the sand and an ass at the top would not have done well. Where would ISIS go after Assad’s fall on a guess from Washington guess 3 times. And this coalition is oh don’t tell my cat, following your liberal values, it’s too expensive to bomb dunes, excavators, weddings and hospitals, so join the coalition yourself
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 12: 50 New
          -19
          If you are all for the war and are so brave, then pack your bags and go volunteers to fight for Assad. Your position is even more cowardly than mine.
          1. dali
            dali 13 October 2015 13: 21 New
            +3
            Quote: Orel
            If you are all for the war and are so brave, then pack your bags and go volunteers to fight for Assad. Your position is even more cowardly than mine.


            And you are also a demagogue, besides ... everyone should do their job and do well. If it’s a doctor, then it’s good to treat it, if it’s a military man, he can fight skillfully ... that means if he is a citizen of Russia, then defending Russia's interests is most effective, i.e. in accordance with their profession.

            So your words, like, but why don’t you fight in Syria, are not worth a damn !!!

            Какой ты Орёл, ты ... "вдоржывопрыжврывжи" ... слов нормальных просто нет на тебя!!! am
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          3. ROD VDVshny
            ROD VDVshny 13 October 2015 13: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: Orel
            If you are all for the war and so brave

            Do you know why the state of Israel is still alive?
            Потому что они волки, а не стадо блеющих овец. Их политика имеет массу темных пятен, противоречива, а методы не блещут стерильностью. Но...они живут в "бородатом окружении" уже давно. Вокруг них размахивают черными флагами и ножиками, однако знают - в случае необходимости евреи их с грязью перемешают, и влындят так, что полетят и перья, и черные флаги, и ножики.
          4. subbtin.725
            subbtin.725 13 October 2015 14: 15 New
            +4
            Quote: Orel
            go to fight for Assad.

            What does Assad have to do with it ?, pilots are fighting for Russia's interests.

            Quote: Orel
            Your position is even more cowardly than mine.

            Where is it more cowardly ...?
      12. TVM - 75
        TVM - 75 13 October 2015 12: 49 New
        +3
        Not an eagle, not an eagle at all. And so .... No.
      13. kit-kat
        kit-kat 13 October 2015 12: 55 New
        11
        Boris Borisych? Nadezhdin? It is you?
      14. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2015 12: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: Orel
        I don’t know who Putin’s adviser to Syria, but we put ourselves in an extremely bad strategic situation, as we refused to participate in the international coalition against ISIS, which has already been created.

        Вы уверены, что эта коалиция была создана против ИГИЛ? А не для защиты т.н. "умеренной" оппозиции, которая воюет исключительно против Асада, а при встрече с ИГИЛ и Аль-Каидой постоянно проигрывает, теряя оружие прямо в заводской упаковке?

        К тому же напомню, что ещё в прошлом месяце коалиция обсуждала вопрос о бесполётной зоне и открытых поставках оружия в Сирию. А что такое "бесполётная зона" все прекрасно помнят по Ливии.
        Quote: Orel
        We depend on how the situation develops on the land theater of operations, which is not modeled by us, but ISIS, the Syrian opposition, Kurds, Assad’s troops and the international coalition.

        You forgot two more players who are actively fighting on earth: Hezbollah and Iran behind it.
        Quote: Orel
        We are gradually getting involved in a foreign civil war, rather than participating in the war on international terrorism.

        Проблема в том, что эта гражданская война по сути ведётся террористами. А "умеренные" марионетки просто снабжают их оружием, имитируя бои.

        In addition, as the events of recent days show, the air strikes of the aerospace forces and the navy are not bad at promoting dialogue on an intra-Syrian settlement with the true owners of those fighting against Assad.
      15. General Frost
        General Frost 13 October 2015 13: 02 New
        +7
        I apologize-- hi But really, Bashar al-Assad has not proved in so many years of fighting against scumbags that he will not leave Syria and his people hi ,да и основной костяк армии Сирии уже далеко не подготовленное амерами "вооружённые силы Ирака,Афганистана и т.п. и т.д.",я думаю Асад прекрасно всё понимает и помнит завещание Каддафи hi .My humble opinion. With respect to all members of the forum hi
      16. kill the fascist
        kill the fascist 13 October 2015 13: 04 New
        +3
        перепостите эту хрень на ухе... ой, конечно же на "Эхо Москвы" и Цензоре - соберете много плюсиков.
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 13: 17 New
          -11
          I understand that it is difficult to think logically, when victorious reports are broadcast from all the media, but this must be done ... Do not exaggerate or overestimate the capabilities of Assad and Russia in this conflict. Underestimating the enemy and reassessing one’s strength is a definite defeat. While you are reasoning everything in this vein.
          1. dali
            dali 13 October 2015 13: 29 New
            +7
            Quote: Orel
            I understand that it is difficult to think logically, when victorious reports are broadcast from all the media, but this must be done ... Do not exaggerate or overestimate the capabilities of Assad and Russia in this conflict. Underestimating the enemy and reassessing one’s strength is a definite defeat. While you are reasoning everything in this vein.


            Well, enlightened us, the orphans and the dead, you are our light. You are our all-logical logician, appreciated it means that only you alone are correct, and all our intelligence, and all Syrian intelligence, Iranian ... are dumb and stupid ...

            But you, in fact, offer to bow to the mattresses to go ... and if you were at the beginning of World War II, how would you sing ... everything, it's time to give up, that would save people ...? Do you know who you are after this, to tell or guess yourself?
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      18. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 13 October 2015 13: 15 New
        +2
        Orel SU Today, 12:23 ↑
        It is unclear what we are counting on there .... From the point of view of strategy, we got involved in Syria in a very dangerous game that we will not be able to win.

        К-а-а-а-нечно! Виноваты во всём...виноваты кругом! "Белых и пушистых" парней, воспитанников самой демократической власти на Земле, посмели бомбить. Они же поголовно демократы и борцы за американский образ жизни! Н-э-э-э-зя так! А ещё больше виноваты в том,что:
        The militants of the Homs Liberation Movement and Islamic State are surrounded by government units and are subjected to constant air strikes. To counter them, it is necessary to obtain data on the plans of the troops of Bashar al-Assad and the Russian military from the inside.

        По причине тог, что совсем никто не сообщает...куда полетят ВКС РФ...где будет удар!!! Раньше Иудушки в частях ВС СИРИИ были...а сейчас - извелись...однако... В российском контингенте никто не интересуется получением "30 сребреников"...
        But the worst thing is that the Russian Federation REFUSED FOR THREE DAYS TO REPORT THIS Amer before the air strike! How to fight, if there is NO INFORMATION FROM THE OWNER and you do not know WHEN AND WHERE TO GO, AND WHEN IT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE FEET .... If it goes on like this, then I MAY rather, and not MONEY EARN ...
        Most Russians do not fight correctly!
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 13: 28 New
          -7
          Simple question. What did the Syrian army do for 4 years? Why didn’t she liberate the country, if so strong? Why did she wait for Russian intervention and retreat? 30 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces - is Assad's decisive advantage in the war or what ???

          Ответ на поверхности. Нет у Асада военной силы для победы на земле. Кто даст эти наземные силы? Пока непонятно. Никто не хочет их предоставлять. А значит вся эта "красивая картинка" с ТВ не приносит решающих результатов. Если цели не достигаются, значит ресурсы потрачены даром. Цель - уничтожить ИГИЛ. Так мы заявили. Теперь подумайте, как это возможно, учитывая вышеуказанные факты, которые налицо. Нельзя это отрицать. Асад слаб. Отправлять пехоту и танки должны или Россия, или Иран. Иран масштабно вмешиваться не будет, у них снятие санкций на носу. Мы, не знаю, не хотелось бы, у нас физических сил для этого нет. Это объективно.
      19. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 13 October 2015 13: 34 New
        +5
        I haven’t set a minus yet, but I’ll indicate what is wrong in your text, as it seems to me personally.
        Quote: Orel
        I believe that our main goal in Syria is not ISIS (the international coalition has bombed ISIL for more than a year, and there is no result, it is naive to believe that something will change here from the participation of our Air Force).

        Тут у вас две утверждения ошибочных. Во-первых, наша цель как раз Игил. Именно в ее рядах воюют жители кавказа и средней азии, которые вернувшись, будут вербовать "братьев" на священную войну против России, чтобы построить халифат, как некогда пытался сделать басаев напав на дагестан из чечни, хотя истинная цель этих бандитов просто резать и убивать людей безнаказанно, получать деньги от сша и нато, и конечно насиловать кучу девушек, у каждого чтобы было гарему по сотни рабынь. Вот цель каждого бандита игила. Ислам - прикрытие для грабежа и убийств.
        И второе утверждение - международная коалиция не бомбит игил и не бомбила, она "сосала" деньги у своих налогоплательщиков, благо зарплаты там большие чем у нас, чтобы изобразить ведение войны, будто бомбят, хотя на самом деле где-то в пустыне сбрасывают снаряды и бомбы, а реально что делал запад - это только то, что снабжал боевиков оружием и техникой, "случайно" роняя на их головы. Вот в этом они преуспели настолько, что игил этот вырос до двух третей территории Сирии и Ирака. Сравните с тем эффектом чего добилась авиация РФ всего за неделю боев.
        Quote: Orel
        keep Assad in power at all costs

        Assad’s regime needs to be preserved not so much because he is personally attractive to Russia, but because he is the legitimately elected president of Syria and secular authorities. And who do you think is more worthy than he is for power in Syria, Islamist radicals cutting heads? whoever it is, it will be the choice of the Syrian people only, after clearing the country of the infection of the igils, they will most likely hold a referendum in Crimea, to decide how many parts Syria will break up, and who will rule the confederation.
        Quote: Orel
        In an environment where Assad’s army is retreating and losing new areas every year, we may be in a situation of direct military conflict on the ground if Assad’s opponents reach our military bases.

        Армия Асада если не смотрите новости и не читаете, сейчас занята только тем, что освобождает город за городом от игил. А в случае приближения к нашим базам, у РФ имеются и круче бомбы чем ракеты "калибр" могущие испепелить территорию сравнимо с городом, так что не доберутся.
        Quote: Orel
        We are gradually getting involved in a foreign civil war, rather than participating in the war on international terrorism.

        civil war is when their own people of one country are fighting for power, for a regime which they believe will be more appropriate for the country, and the army is fighting for the army. And when hastily gathered bandits, thugs from different countries slaughter and kill citizens, the inhabitants of one country do not care about the country at all - this is genocide, this is intervention, this is terrorism.
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 13: 46 New
          -10
          ISIS can be defeated only by a common front, and it will not be until Assad is in power. No matter how regrettable it may sound, Assad must leave. The Syrian army will remain, but will receive the support of all key players (both from the West and from the East) and then ISIS will be able to defeat. While Assad is in power, his opponents on earth will be fed with everything necessary and the alignment here is not in our favor. To calculate the defeat of Assad, one calculator is enough. This is already arithmetically calculated. Assad must sacrifice his power to restore the country. Otherwise, the Syrian army will be exhausted, destroyed and conquered Syria will be no one.
          1. VOLOD
            VOLOD 13 October 2015 15: 20 New
            +3
            storyteller. the Syrian army for 4 years was destroyed by the whole world and it is still combat ready. the world is not blind to see who has cheated where and supporters of the actions of the Russian Federation more and more.
          2. Proud.
            Proud. 13 October 2015 22: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Orel
            ISIS can be defeated only by a common front, and it will not be until Assad is in power. No matter how regrettable it may sound, Assad must leave. The Syrian army will remain, but will receive the support of all key players (both from the West and from the East) and then ISIS will be able to defeat. While Assad is in power, his opponents on earth will be fed with everything necessary and the alignment here is not in our favor. To calculate the defeat of Assad, one calculator is enough. This is already arithmetically calculated. Assad must sacrifice his power to restore the country. Otherwise, the Syrian army will be exhausted, destroyed and conquered Syria will be no one.

            Absolutely false concept - Events that happened earlier (Iraq and Libya) proved this. The Syrian government army only keeps it because it is rallied around Assad.
      20. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 13 October 2015 13: 35 New
        +3
        "...если противники Асада доберутся до наших военных баз."
        One of the key phrases. They, opponents of Assad, can only be reached there under guard and with their trousers cut.
        "...когда армия Асада отступает и с каждым годом теряет новые районы"
        The latest data does not match your statements.
        To you -
      21. wild
        wild 13 October 2015 13: 42 New
        +3
        Picked up :-) :-) :-)
        1. Orel
          Orel 13 October 2015 13: 51 New
          -8
          Picked up :-) :-) :-)


          Минусы меня слабо беспокоят. Интересно просто сколько у нас "ура-патриотов". Приятно обнаружить в своих постах плюсы, но это не главное. Главное, что есть еще люди, которые способны критически мыслить. Значит есть надежда.
          1. Orel
            Orel 13 October 2015 13: 57 New
            +2
            Всем спасибо за дискуссию. И тем кто "за" и тем кто "против". Я уважаю мнение всех, но к сожалению не согласен с большинством. Всем удачи! ;) Прошу прощения, что не смог ответить всем, Вас много)))
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 13 October 2015 14: 22 New
              +7
              Quote: Orel
              Всем спасибо за дискуссию. И тем кто "за" и тем кто "против".

              Да-а-а, не хило Orel провёл "соцопрос" по теме нахождения ВКС России в Сирии! laughing Obviously, someone is probing the mood of Russian citizens on this issue.
          2. vovanpain
            vovanpain 13 October 2015 14: 14 New
            11
            Quote: Orel
            Picked up :-) :-) :-)


            Минусы меня слабо беспокоят. Интересно просто сколько у нас "ура-патриотов". Приятно обнаружить в своих постах плюсы, но это не главное. Главное, что есть еще люди, которые способны критически мыслить. Значит есть надежда.

            You have a bad hope for VO, then ostriches hiding their heads in the sand, and then when he gets a bearded shaitan they don’t greet him to put up his head, so you’d better go to the State Department’s Echo or rain, they’ll warm it, pat it on your head, cry there, a cookie receive, and here it seems to you it will be difficult for sdes.
      22. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 13 October 2015 13: 54 New
        +5
        Quote: Orel
        It is not clear what we are counting on there.
        I believe that our main goal in Syria is not ISIS (the international coalition has bombed ISIL for more than a year, and there is no result, it is naive to believe that something will change here from the participation of our Air Force). So the main goal is different.

        You make a mistake and answer it yourself ...
        1) It is naive to believe that coalition air forces bomb them at all.
        2) Do you really think that after inflicting 28 thousand blows in a year and dropping about 70 thousand bombs, they fell on ISIS? Even if there was a bomb for every action movie, this organization had to lose half of its members.
        3) Russia in 1 week delivered 112 attacks and destroyed:
        Command points 19
        Ammunition depots, fuel and lubricants, weapons 12
        Explosive factories 9
        Armored vehicles 71
        Manpower 380 fighters
      23. Now we are free
        Now we are free 13 October 2015 13: 57 New
        +5
        I read your message to the end of Orel. Although after these lines
        I was personally struck by laughter
        Quote: Orel
        as refused to participate in the international coalition against ISISalready created.

        What coalition? Coalition wants to remove Assad Therefore, according to your words, the special forces of the GRU of the Russian Federation should physically destroy Assad and for this Barak would give Vova a candy with the words well done Vovchik, are you now my favorite poodle and not Cameron? laughing

        Quote: Orel
        However, we are not in Syria the force on which the development of events depends, we immediately lose the initiative and become a subordinate.

        We would be a subordinate if we entered into a coalition that is tightly controlled from Washington.

        Quote: Orel
        Syrian army exhausted, ISIS broke through in several sections of the front

        We have been hearing this mantra for 4 years ... Unlike Libya, Syria has been holding these same 4 years despite the weapons of the States, Saudi-Qatars grandmothers, ISIS training camps in Turkey and Jordan ... + You generally map the military operations in Syria watched when was the last time ??? Where exactly is ISIS and how far is it from Latakia?

        Summing up:
        Воевать с ИГИЛ и всеми другими группировками которые к нему примкнут (скорее всего так и будет ибо "Тёмный господин" соберёт всех воедино дабы объявить России "Проплаченный джихад") в Сирии есть кому это -Курды, Сирийцы алавиты/шииты, Ливанцы, Иранцы. Первых трёх при поражении Асада ждёт одна альтернатива отрезание головы и они об этом знают Иран подобная участь ждет на несколько лет позже... Так, что там есть кому сражаться и мотивация самая что ни на есть сильная -НЕ ЛИШИТЬСЯ ЖИЗНИ.

        А по Вашему "Анализу" подобному заезженной пластинкой "либералов из 90" можно сказать одно он отдаёт -Некомпетентностью.
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      25. Averias
        Averias 13 October 2015 14: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Orel
        It is not clear what we are counting on there.

        I will say briefly - Eyes open!

        За то, что на "ТЫ" пардон, но эта фраза другого обращения не подразумевает, не тот коленкор.
      26. alekc75
        alekc75 13 October 2015 14: 25 New
        0
        have you been given much silver coins?
      27. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 13 October 2015 14: 49 New
        +1
        You can enter the coalition, it is important when. First you need to finish everything that goes along the border with Turkey, this is not ISIS, but from there the supply goes, and there the oil goes. And then you can fight ISIS together. That would then not to share power in Syria with anyone. In this game, everyone has two aces fake in his pocket and no one needs fair play.
      28. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 13 October 2015 14: 49 New
        0
        You can enter the coalition, it is important when. First you need to finish everything that goes along the border with Turkey, this is not ISIS, but from there the supply goes, and there the oil goes. And then you can fight ISIS together. That would then not to share power in Syria with anyone. In this game, everyone has two aces fake in his pocket and no one needs fair play.
      29. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 13 October 2015 15: 26 New
        0
        Орлу "захотелось встать и сказать умную вещь, получилось лечь на пол и пукнуть" (с) lol even minus laziness that crap ...
      30. There are a lot of us
        There are a lot of us 13 October 2015 15: 31 New
        0
        not an eagle or even a falcon ...
    2. Firstvanguard
      Firstvanguard 13 October 2015 16: 12 New
      0
      Quote: teron
      No, well then everything is fine. These are moderate, for democracy. The fool is clear.

      Well, for the moderate, the aerospace forces in Syria have moderate bombs. Pink in flowers and birds bully
  2. roskot
    roskot 13 October 2015 12: 19 New
    +7
    The enemy is cunning and treacherous. Warrior - be vigilant !!!
  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 13 October 2015 12: 19 New
    +6
    Ну, совсем филиал "Аль-Каеды" оборзел! ПВО им давай... Плохо вам не будет, господа "умеренные"? Ну а что до смертников... Вы теперь все под Аллахом ходите, ВКС просто помогают вам побыстрее с ним встретиться.
  4. ilyaches
    ilyaches 13 October 2015 12: 19 New
    +6
    Well, now the real work and the opportunity to show their professional suitability for the special services of Syria have appeared. The main thing is that they do not oversleep this special contingent.
  5. zzz
    zzz 13 October 2015 12: 20 New
    +6
    Are you ready to accept the answer?
  6. Decathlon
    Decathlon 13 October 2015 12: 20 New
    +4
    "...о поставках современного вооружения..."
    Somewhere this request met me! Now, however, the beggar petition was somehow forgotten ... Not up to him, miserable!
  7. vovanpain
    vovanpain 13 October 2015 12: 21 New
    12
    It’s good that the shaitans give an interview. Whoever is warned is armed. Let the shaitan live until at least tomorrow the scarecrow kuev
  8. Solidgrasp
    Solidgrasp 13 October 2015 12: 21 New
    11
    Something was not heard of their threat when the Americans bombed
  9. horoh
    horoh 13 October 2015 12: 21 New
    +5
    Ну вот и "умеренные" свою рожу показали.
  10. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 13 October 2015 12: 22 New
    +4
    In addition, Al-Khurani turned to the United States with a request for the supply of modern weapons, in particular, air defense systems, stressing that the combat wing of the Homs Liberation Movement works closely with al-Qaida, but is not part of the Islamic State "

    Очень интересно, как они собрались официально просить поддержки вооружением из Америки, учитывая, что Аль-Каида - это организация, официально признанная ООН, да и самими США террористической. Типа "может, прокатит"?
  11. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 13 October 2015 12: 22 New
    +7
    " Сначала мы выдержим яростные воздушные бомбардировки, затем ... " Кто останется жив - сбреет бороды и в Европу
  12. Denis DV
    Denis DV 13 October 2015 12: 22 New
    +3
    And the USA will provide them with suicide bombers?
  13. Altona
    Altona 13 October 2015 12: 23 New
    +6
    And how do they want to enter the staff? Yes, there probably is a check on the base using technical means, and not all objects in the local community should have access ... I can’t imagine, to be honest, how it will be if there are means of checking the regime at the air base ...
    1. Barboskin
      Barboskin 13 October 2015 12: 27 New
      +2
      I agree, this is not to go to the supermarket. To penetrate such a closed facility, and even in wartime it is more difficult than to be born back to mother.
      1. A-Sim
        A-Sim 13 October 2015 12: 46 New
        +1
        "Осел, груженный золотом, пройдет в любые ворота."
  14. Masya masya
    Masya masya 13 October 2015 12: 23 New
    +4
    Forewarned is forearmed!
  15. kil 31
    kil 31 13 October 2015 12: 25 New
    +1
    In addition, Al-Hourani appealed to the United States with a request for the supply of modern weapons, in particular, air defense, stressing that the military wing of the Movement for the Liberation of Homs closely cooperates with Al-Qaeda, but is not part of the "Islamic State ". Что-то я не понял. " Аль- Каида" в штатах считается террористической организацией. Также и в ООН. Ан- нусра под которой маркой они прячутся, так-же считается, тер. организацией. Не ужели этот бородач, что-то знает и уверен в помощи.
  16. udincev
    udincev 13 October 2015 12: 26 New
    0
    The Pentagon and NATO have repeatedly repeatedly accused the Russian Federation of attacks on the so-called moderate Syrian opposition, while the data on exactly where their positions are and has not followed. Moreover, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg could not name any armed group that would fight against the Assad regime, not cooperating with the IG and Al-Qaida.

    Where can they (and to whom?) Help deliver? Most states were clouded and lost. Would be pricked in a pure: true goals, agents of influence and communication, the goals of the created man-made mess ...
  17. hartlend
    hartlend 13 October 2015 12: 27 New
    +1
    Forewarned is forearmed.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 13 October 2015 12: 37 New
      +2
      It’s a pity, I didn’t give the names, it would be very good. wink
  18. artmoney
    artmoney 13 October 2015 12: 28 New
    -37
    I hope the Americans tossed the stingers .. the pilots must land and then they are getting impudent
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 13 October 2015 12: 31 New
      18
      .... I hope the Americans tossed the stingers .. the airstrikers need to be landed, or else they are being impudent ...

      .... got lost heart ???? ..... Scatter !!!!! ..... On the censor ..... There is your place !!!!
      1. northern
        northern 13 October 2015 12: 36 New
        +6
        they already started to run away from him, so it stinks there :-)
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 13 October 2015 12: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: artmoney
      I hope the Americans tossed the stingers .. the pilots must land and then they are getting impudent

      Fight in the cache. There, the Javelins are waiting for you.
    3. Wayna qhapaq
      Wayna qhapaq 13 October 2015 12: 37 New
      +4
      Sala to the heroes?
    4. V.ic
      V.ic 13 October 2015 12: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: artmoney
      I hope the Americans ...

      You should not hope for idiots ...
    5. Lyton
      Lyton 13 October 2015 12: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: artmoney
      it is necessary to land and then they are impudent

      , Characteristics, study the stingers and aircraft, sparrows will be shot down with the Americans together.
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    7. ultra
      ultra 13 October 2015 12: 58 New
      +2
      What's Durk open day? laughing
      1. VOLOD
        VOLOD 13 October 2015 15: 22 New
        0
        do not say some kind of influx (wise men)
    8. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 October 2015 13: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: artmoney
      I hope the Americans tossed the stingers .. the pilots must land and then they are getting impudent

      Oh yes ... Americans are sleeping and seeing how to better equip those whom they themselves bomb. For the moderate opposition has already become famous for the regular surrender of weapons to the opposition implacable.
      And how neighboring Israel will be glad to supply the latest MANPADS of the latest models ...
    9. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 October 2015 14: 16 New
      0
      They will throw it, only then all these weapons will fall to the Syrian army and for one proof there will be one hundred percent that the United States armed the militants.
    10. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 13 October 2015 15: 45 New
      +1
      how hearted you are crying got drunk overdue cookies, duck is now not like urine, already diarrhea in the head beats belay
    11. Altona
      Altona 13 October 2015 22: 03 New
      0
      Quote: artmoney
      I hope the Americans tossed the stingers .. the pilots must land and then they are getting impudent

      ---------------------
      Вы сами не из пивной ли пишете? Посещаете вечерами "Вечный зов" и "Ручей животворящий" поди?
    12. Proud.
      Proud. 13 October 2015 22: 45 New
      0
      Quote: artmoney
      I hope the Americans tossed the stingers .. the pilots must land and then they are getting impudent

      Go away!
  19. Oman 47
    Oman 47 13 October 2015 12: 28 New
    +3
    RESULT, really, therefore, ours are fucking them! ... hi
    - Well, for the hunt, Mikhalych! drinks
  20. ssn18
    ssn18 13 October 2015 12: 29 New
    +3
    Thanks for the warning! I think who should be heard.
  21. sagitch
    sagitch 13 October 2015 12: 33 New
    +4
    Тут на сайте, Вы все, пользователи, как будто специально для ИГИЛовцев и им подобных, уже раз провели совещание на тему "Как разбомбить, уничтожить, нанести максимальный урон нашим ВКС в Сирии", даже с привлечением опытных участников боевых действий.
    Probably it’s not necessary to lay out such considerations here, leave them to yourself, the site is not only used by patriotic Russians, I think the enemies respect it, and find a lot of interesting things for themselves!
    1. perm23
      perm23 13 October 2015 12: 59 New
      +1
      That's right, anyone has a reason, thoughts, experience, communicate with the same well in closed mode. not on a public site. I already wrote about this. started to minus.
  22. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 13 October 2015 12: 35 New
    +3
    the feeling that the speechwriter was written to him by the same speechwriter as John Kerry
  23. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 13 October 2015 12: 36 New
    +6
    something like that inspired
  24. Wolka
    Wolka 13 October 2015 12: 36 New
    +2
    ну, ну и где эта "умеренная оппозиция", все одно, террористы как не крути, хоть слева, хоть справа, хоть сверху вниз, один черт только вид сбоку, потому подлежать немедленному полному уничтожению...
  25. engineer74
    engineer74 13 October 2015 12: 39 New
    +1
    Похоже, этот "оппозиционер" лет 15 отроду... "Умеренная" Аль-Каида, шахиды на военной базе, средства ПВО - хорошо "Пэтриот" изучил? Или инструкторов тоже прислать? Детский сад, поямо Генштаб ВСУ! wassat
    Очередная утка от "The Daily Beast", сами придумали - сами распространили, Аль-Каиду приплели, чтобы другие идиoты всерьез поставками помощи не озаботились, а то за фейк отвечать придется. request
    IMHO
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2015 12: 46 New
    +2
    In general, at first I didn’t even understand why our planes were not in shelters, but in taxiing, built in a ruler.
    It is clear that it was easier to maintain. And ours are not afraid of artillery raid, since they blocked the entire district within a radius of 15 km.
    Against sabotage by the local - there is no protection. Whether you’ve been tested three times, your family is at risk, they will take the child, and they will blackmail you with his life. It just takes time, intelligence work, experienced personnel for any such action. The key word is time. Give them six months - get with a high degree of probability. For a month - the probability is much less.
  27. Lyton
    Lyton 13 October 2015 12: 50 New
    +1
    Al who? Hunyani, do not overdo it, otherwise your head will burst from dreams.
  28. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 13 October 2015 12: 53 New
    +1
    Когда монголы пришли на Русь,они кричали:"нас тьма!",а наши воины им ответили:"а насрать".Так же нужно ответить и бандитам.Придет время всех их приговорим к пожизненному расстрелу....из рогатки по яйцам!
  29. linadherent
    linadherent 13 October 2015 12: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: zzz
    Are you ready to accept the answer?

    Right! How about basking in the sun? Yes, and hail in the desert can begin, and a hurricane, and rooks may fly by, and ducklings ... negative
  30. Ustyuzhanin-35
    Ustyuzhanin-35 13 October 2015 12: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Orel
    We are gradually getting involved in a foreign civil war, rather than participating in the war on international terrorism.

    Come on ahead of time to panic. There will be no second Afghanistan, I personally believe in GDP (I have proved it more than once with my actions). And what our people are doing in Syria right now, everyone should understand this. Otherwise, sooner or later Beslan will be again and, God forbid, that is worse. soldier
  31. bmv04636
    bmv04636 13 October 2015 12: 58 New
    +2
    Soon the sun will be sunbathing on the way.
  32. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 13 October 2015 13: 09 New
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    I wonder how long the so-called IS, if it weren’t for the former officers of Saddam and the presence of supplies across the Turkish border? I read statements by IS figures and I understand that it’s good to run distillations with commanders like Al-Khurani wassat .
  33. ML-334
    ML-334 13 October 2015 13: 19 New
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    Отрезать от снабжения выполнимо?Думаю это и происходит.С америкосами беда-сбрасывают груз.Но и это поправимо если с земли"стингером", а кто и что а Х.. его знает,там этих групировок не счесть.
  34. boris-1230
    boris-1230 13 October 2015 13: 21 New
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    Whatever it was, but this reptile (ISIS) must be crushed, once climbed - it is necessary to achieve success
  35. press officer
    press officer 13 October 2015 13: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: coconut tim
    " Сначала мы выдержим яростные воздушные бомбардировки, затем ... " Кто останется жив - сбреет бороды и в Европу



    and Europe is waiting for them !!!
  36. Leeder
    Leeder 13 October 2015 13: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Orel
    And your military education allows you to believe that 30 aircraft can destroy ISIS?))

    It is impossible to completely destroy ISIS from the air. But to deprive the Malomalski of ammunition depots, command posts and training camps - completely.
    Modern warfare devours ammunition, it is difficult to estimate the total cost of ammunition in such a war, but I think they amount to tens of tons per day. Now imagine the supply of hundreds of small groups of terrorists from warehouses of 2-3 zinc on donkeys, because all transport will also be destroyed.
    Military logistics is one of the most important components of modern warfare. This sword does not need anything, and any firearm requires a lot of ammunition, mortars and artillery in general guard for logisticians. And this is not counting provisions for troops, uniforms, fuel and lubricants, etc. (However, ISIS is not quite an army)
    As a result, our air strikes will reduce the war to a partisan one, and this is already the case for the Syrian army, even later after the destruction of large groups of militants, for the Ministry of Internal Affairs and special services.
    So do not write about the philosophical discourse on the stupidity and futility of war ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 October 2015 14: 01 New
      +4
      The Syrian army, unfortunately, does not control the border
      with Turkey. From there is a continuous supply
      ammunition for militants. Some groups share with others
      (for the right to transport through its territory).
      As a result, all groups are armed.
      1. Hello
        Hello 13 October 2015 23: 05 New
        +3
        Kurds control almost half. With the support of Russia and the loyalty of the Kurds, Assad is able to return the rest of the border, though if he does not chew the snot and finally negotiates with the Kurds, only weapons and ammunition come from Iraq.
  37. Orel
    Orel 13 October 2015 13: 42 New
    -4
    Quote: Maxom75
    Nobody believes that he can. I think that the Syrian army will be able to stabilize the front. To recapture key cities and highways, and then, with the support of the Iranians, will be able to slowly clean up the entire territory. Maybe Russia will open its Lenglis and begin deliveries of T-72, TOS, BTR, BMP, self-propelled guns from storage depots. The accumulation of military equipment and a stable front will continue the offensive to the east of Syria. In the eastern part of Syria, desert regions prevail, where the advantage in aviation will be more significant than in the western. Assad will have to solve a number of tasks, such as agreeing with the Kurds on the federation, expanding the powers of the Sunnis in power and closing the borders tightly, the passage yard that existed earlier will not allow to save the country.


    Многое из этого уже сделано. Результата нет. Многому не суждено уже осуществиться. Поставки оружия идут давно. Про "Сирийский экспресс" не слышали? Во власть суннитов пустили, реформы пообещали. Но как говорится: "Поздно пить Боржоми". Точка невозврата пройдена. Асад обречен. Вопрос лишь во времени и в условиях его ухода.
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  39. mamont5
    mamont5 13 October 2015 18: 03 New
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    Quote: Penetrator
    Quote: Orel
    С point of view of strategy, we got involved in Syria in a very dangerous game that we will not be able to win.

    Еще один великий стратег - "всёпропало, мывсеумрём". Поменяй лучше ник с Орла на Страус. Или Петух.

    Судя по всему, это не "орел", а орлан белоголовый.
  40. mamont5
    mamont5 13 October 2015 18: 10 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    The Syrian army, unfortunately, does not control the border
    with Turkey. From there is a continuous supply
    ammunition for militants. Some groups share with others
    (for the right to transport through its territory).
    As a result, all groups are armed.

    This is all true, but ... one must strive to destroy the militants and take control of the border.
    As for the attacks against Russian bases, I think that there will undoubtedly be attempts, but here our (and Syrian) SB card is in hand.

    By the way, with regards to the Syrian Free Army:
    "Существует видео, где начальник генштаба Сирийской свободной армии генерал Салим Идрис называет ИГ своими братьями, рассказывая, как они совместно захватывали аэродром Абу-Духур.

    Это та самая «умеренная сирийская оппозиция», которую сегодня выгораживает Запад. Поэтому сегодня вопрос стоит не о спасении Асада, а о спасении самих сирийцев, и Россия вмешалась своевременно."
    http://warfiles.ru/show-97480-siriyskaya-svobodnaya-armiya-nazvala-ig-svoimi-bra
    tyami.html
  41. gammipapa
    gammipapa 13 October 2015 21: 37 New
    0
    There’s nothing bad, you’ll see. So far, all Putna’s moves have been based on 100% calculations that the actions will be successful. Example -Crimea, as they screamed that it was all the beginning of the war and the Russians shamefully escaped, they scared the terrorist attacks not childishly. Nitsche-all a bunch.
    The same thing is with Syria, the president clearly said in an interview - yes, we have thought through and calculated everything, there is no reason not to believe him.
    And then, why repeat the obvious nonsense about the second Agan? Officially announced - we will not participate in the ground operation. Even if everything is bad, there are still so many new bombs and warheads that have not been tested and are waiting in the wings. Russia can make quite simply a lunar landscape from the entire Middle East.
    You don’t need to be afraid of the fact that America and comrades will fit in for him - they will not fit in until the bombs fall on their heads, they will express concern, wrinkle their faces and endure, there is no particular fool to exchange a well-fed life for a quick death.