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Korochenko: Air-launched missiles with a range of up to 4500 km are an integral part of Russia's strategic forces

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Air-launched missile systems with a range of 4,5 thousand km, which Vladimir Putin mentioned earlier, are part of the Russian strategic nuclear forces, reports RIA News statement of the famous military expert, director of TSAMTO Igor Korotchenko.




Earlier, Vladimir Putin said that “Russia is forced to modernize its army with high-precision and high-tech weapons"Because many complexes are already outdated, and “the weapon system in the world is being improved.” “Partners should know that Russia can use these weapons in the event of a threat to ensure its security,” he said, explaining that Russia has “air-launched missile systems with a range of 4,5 thousand km.”

“As part of the strategic nuclear forces of Russia there are aviation a component based on the possibility of using long-range air-launched cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. "This strategic weapon can be used only in extreme circumstances, in the event of a nuclear missile attack on Russia, or aggression against our country using conventional armed forces, when the very existence of the Russian state is threatened," - said the expert.

“A potential adversary knows that we have such weapons,” he added.

According to Korotchenko, these cruise missiles "are mass-produced and are coming into service with strategic aviation." Their carriers are Tu-95MS and Tu-160.

“Bombers are able to fly very quickly to a combat patrol zone and, even without using these weapons, show Russia's determination to use it to prevent possible aggressive actions against our country,” the expert concluded.
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  1. bulvas
    bulvas 13 October 2015 11: 02 New
    +4
    Interestingly, on strategists, are there air-to-air missiles to drive away fighters?


    After all, if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the earth, knock down a strategist and can intercept launched missiles

    1. Pro100Igor
      Pro100Igor 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
      +5
      Unfortunately not.
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
      +9
      The latest news on rockets for PAK FA.Russkaya ingenuity! fellow
      The PAK FA was armed with square rockets.Опубликованы фотографии нескольких типов новейших ракет класса "воздух-поверхность", предназначенных для вооружения российских самолетов - в том числе ПАК ФА. Среди них Х-59МК2 и Х-58УШКЭ квадратного сечения.

      The first ammunition is designed to destroy stationary ground targets with known coordinates. Combined guidance system: inertial and satellite GPS / GLONASS, the optoelectronic homing head is turned on at the final part of the trajectory. The flight of the rocket occurs at a height of 50-300 meters, the warhead of two types: penetrating and cassette.

      Вторая ракета противорадиолокационная. Оснащена широкополосной пассивной головкой самонаведения: ракета слышит любую активность в эфире, а ее не слышит никто. Летает "убийца радара в три раза быстрее звука на расстояние до 250 километров и доставляет к цели 150-килограммовую фугасную боеголовку.
      http://www.rg.ru/2015/10/12/raketa-site-anons.html

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      2. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 13 October 2015 11: 12 New
        10
        “Partners should know that in the event of a threat, Russia can use these weapons in case of a threat”

        "Партнеры!"....слово то какое ругательное уже стало!Да знают они уже все! Применим и точно в цель ..уже демонстрируем и не на учениях...Больницы ни одной не разбомбили!Кто следующие "партнеры", хочет "проверить" русское оружие?(помнится верещали многие... все сгнило и продали и т.д.)))))
        1. Homo
          Homo 13 October 2015 11: 38 New
          +7
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          "Партнеры!"....слово то какое ругательное уже стало!

          Зря Вы так, "партнёр" это очень ёмко. Партнёр и тот с кем танцуют тот кого в позу ставят! С партнёрами-друзьями мы будем танцевать, а партнёров-врагов ...!
      3. Nitarius
        Nitarius 13 October 2015 11: 41 New
        +4
        you need to know physics))) this is most likely hypersonic))) for partners))
    3. mQn
      mQn 13 October 2015 11: 06 New
      +1
      Of course not.
    4. ilyaches
      ilyaches 13 October 2015 11: 19 New
      +6
      Самое грустное, что как говорит один знакомый летчики данных самолетов - "Мы пилоты смертники, потому что рейс будет в один конец. туда прилетим, сбросим, а обратно можем не долететь, или топлива не хватит, либо собъют". (с его слов).
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 13 October 2015 11: 29 New
        12
        "Мы пилоты смертники, потому что рейс будет в один конец. туда прилетим, сбросим, а обратно можем не долететь, или топлива не хватит, либо собъют"

        Why? With a launch range of 4500 km, the bomb carrier may not intersect with enemy air defense. Quietly he shot back and lay down on the opposite course, and even let him defend the air defense with missiles.
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 13 October 2015 11: 48 New
          +3
          "Мы пилоты смертники, потому что рейс будет в один конец. туда прилетим, сбросим, а обратно можем не долететь, или топлива не хватит, либо собъют"

          Eh, you can’t edit the comment already ...

          Так вот, данная фраза вполне подходит для пилотов B-2. Основным оружием этого "стелса" являются свободнопадающие бомбы (ракеты, насколько знаю, он не умеет), так что вынужден подбираться к цели почти вплотную сквозь вражескую (нашу :)) ПВО. Его основная же защита - незаметность - показала себя недостаточной для таких фокусов.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 13 October 2015 11: 54 New
        10
        Quote: ilyaches
        Самое грустное, что как говорит один знакомый летчики данных самолетов - "Мы пилоты смертники, потому что рейс будет в один конец. туда прилетим, сбросим, а обратно можем не долететь, или топлива не хватит, либо собъют". (с его слов).



        Hmm ... In the same way, we can talk about the missile forces of the Strategic Missile Forces-air defense missile systems, the submarine crews, and many others ...

        The only thing is that when these guys join the battle, not only will they not come back from the battle ... Armageddon is for everyone ... So this question does not need to be fanned ...

        PS And the pilots of long-range aviation knew who they studied for, who they gave the oath to, and that this oath provides ... There is such a profession - to protect the homeland ... A world without wars - does not happen, which confirms the centuries-old development of human civilization ...
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 October 2015 11: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: ilyaches
        Самое грустное, что как говорит один знакомый летчики данных самолетов - "Мы пилоты смертники, потому что рейс будет в один конец. туда прилетим, сбросим, а обратно можем не долететь, или топлива не хватит, либо собъют"

        ...так было, когда они "сидели в ямах" под самолетом на БД. Когда основным оружием было - атомные бомбы, а из средств самообороны - спаренные авиапушки (точек 5) с центральным огневым постом. laughing

        Счас, когда их якобы "перехватывают" и сопровождают - считай они тренируются на трассах будущих ТВД. К моменту обнаружения в боевом режиме - они уже пустые и должны возвращаться домой...
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2015 13: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: ilyaches
        Самое грустное, что как говорит один знакомый летчики данных самолетов - "Мы пилоты смертники, потому что рейс будет в один конец. туда прилетим, сбросим, а обратно можем не долететь, или топлива не хватит, либо собъют". (с его слов).

        One way flight It will be for another reason - if the strategists are unloaded for the purpose with the products for which they were designed, then they will most likely have nowhere to return.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 13 October 2015 14: 04 New
          +2
          That is, approximately equal forces will oppose and destroy each other. This is not Iraq to the amers or in Syria to bomb us bandits.
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 13 October 2015 14: 01 New
        +1
        But this pilot did not know what he was doing, when he entered the flight school and then took the oath? And he does not know that we, those who remain under his wing on day X, will be targets for his Western colleagues. If hour X happens, then everyone will have to fulfill their duty and die if they are not lucky. And about luck - so everyone has a minimal chance, and you will not envy the survivors. And we need to do everything so that in the West they finally understand that they too cannot hide from inevitable retaliation.
    5. andrei.yandex
      andrei.yandex 13 October 2015 11: 20 New
      0
      Strategists enter the air defense coverage area, and for this, long-range missile systems are being made. It's time to understand the obvious things and ask such questions.
      1. zzz
        zzz 13 October 2015 11: 27 New
        +2
        I don’t know if it’s a duck or not, but here’s what it found: NATO is taking control of Ukraine’s airspace. Ukraine will regain control of airspace with the help of NATO. This was stated by Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Igor Dolgov.

        According to him, last week, NATO experts paid a visit to Ukraine, during which they figured out what needs to be done to improve airspace control over Ukraine. According to the results of the visit, the necessary conclusions were made, and now experts know in which direction you need to work and “upgrade”, Dolgov emphasized.

        He added that Ukraine and NATO have been exchanging information on the situation in the air for several years now. However, after the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation, some opportunities were lost. They can be compensated by creating joint software and information security systems.

        As EADaily reported, the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine announced the complete cessation of air links with Russia from October 25. On September 25, Kiev announced a ban on flights to Ukraine to the 25 largest Russian airlines.

        Source: http://mpsh.ru
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 13 October 2015 11: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: zzz
          Don't know duck or not



          If this is not a duck, then with regret we can state a fact: we - were late ...

          Infantry, albeit in small quantities, in the territory of Urkaina under the guise of instructors, is possible and may increase ... The same thing will happen with weapons technology, and with the Air Force, and then ours really can’t go there without a direct clash with NATO ...
        2. Rus2012
          Rus2012 13 October 2015 12: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: zzz
          According to him, last week, NATO experts paid a visit to Ukraine, during which they figured out what needs to be done to improve airspace control over Ukraine.

          ...НАТА и в преболдоне "не полностью контролирует воздушное пространство", только до момента взлета наших ВВС и до момента применения противовоздушных систем оружия. Что уж говорить про руину... laughing
      2. demo
        demo 13 October 2015 11: 34 New
        0
        Strategists enter the air defense coverage area,

        I mean do not go?
        1. Sura
          Sura 13 October 2015 11: 47 New
          +3
          They don’t have to go in, I don’t see the point of making a large and expensive piece of iron with 4500km rockets, giving birth, growing up, for a long, long time to teach the crew and all this one-time use, Russian-made kamikdze, by God it’s nonsense.
      3. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 13 October 2015 11: 48 New
        +4
        andrei.yandex
        Strategists enter the air defense coverage area, and for this, long-range missile systems are being made. It's time to understand the obvious things and ask such questions.


        By your logic, long-range cruise missiles are being made so that strategists enter the zone of enemy air defense?

        Mr. Evidence, it seems that you froze stupidity, and not the one to whom you answered so rudely)))
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 13 October 2015 12: 12 New
          0
          Quote: viktorrymar
          andrei.yandex
          Strategists enter the air defense coverage area, and for this, long-range missile systems are being made. It's time to understand the obvious things and ask such questions.


          By your logic, long-range cruise missiles are being made so that strategists enter the zone of enemy air defense?

          Mr. Evidence, it seems that you froze stupidity, and not the one to whom you answered so rudely)))


          Просто у него клавиатура букву "НЕ" не печатает wink
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    7. Mera joota
      Mera joota 13 October 2015 11: 21 New
      -9
      Quote: bulvas
      After all, if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the earth, bring down a strategist

      The strategist will be shot down immediately when trying to open the bomb bay, no one will ask for permission.
    8. Awaz
      Awaz 13 October 2015 11: 27 New
      +3
      Well, from the North Pole to Washington just enough missiles)))
    9. demo
      demo 13 October 2015 11: 33 New
      +1
      Recently I read somewhere or watched about which planes and in what quantity are going along with the strategists.
      There is a tanker, fighter jets, and strategists.
      1. andj61
        andj61 13 October 2015 11: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: demo
        Recently I read somewhere or watched about which planes and in what quantity are going along with the strategists.
        There is a tanker, fighter jets, and strategists.

        Fighters have a limited range, the refueler either meets the strategist when he returns, or refuel him when moving there, but all this is under the protection of the fighters. But the strategists carry out a flight to the territory of the adversary alone. request
    10. tommy717
      tommy717 13 October 2015 11: 38 New
      +2
      Поэтому пуски ракет предполагается совершать вне зоны действия системы ПВО вероятного противника, а ПВО амеров - это в основном перехватчики. А еще у нас на всякий случай имеются ПЛАРБ (кто не знает атомный подводный флот), а еще БРЖД реанимируются. А еще "растут Тополя". Ну и всегда на "запасном пути" Каспийская флотилия.
      1. Col.
        Col. 13 October 2015 11: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: tommy717
        And just in case we have SSBNs


        ПЛАРБ - это у "них". А у нас - рпкСН. Класс кораблей один и тот же, но терминология разная.
        1. tommy717
          tommy717 13 October 2015 11: 47 New
          +1
          The change of terminology does not make it easier for states.
          1. Col.
            Col. 13 October 2015 12: 02 New
            0
            Quote: tommy717
            The change of terminology does not make it easier for states.

            Do not close your mouth to those who open your eyes.
            - Leonid S. Sukhorukov
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    12. hrych
      hrych 13 October 2015 11: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: bulvas
      Interestingly, on strategists, there are air-to-air missiles to drive off fighters

      Вся суть наших стратегов - не заходить в зону действия ПВО противника. А дальность пуска ракет только уменьшает возможность такого захода. И пусть Вас не смущает сообщение западных СМИ о "перехвате" наших стратегов на обратном пути - это делается специально для вскрытия системы ПВО противника, зачем обратно идти порожняком, плюс ни кто не отменял нанесение экономического и морального ущерба противнику, пусть тратят горючие, а ещё лучше, когда кто-нибуть из них расшибется.
    13. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 October 2015 11: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: bulvas
      if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the ground, knock down a strategist and can intercept launched missiles

      They launched missiles long before they were discovered by all sorts of forces, both NATO and NORAD ...
      Wiki
      X-101 (X-102) - strategic cruise missile. Designed by the ICB "Rainbow" from 1995 to 2013, the reason for the development was the absence of Russian military airbases abroad to cover the bombers. According to the test results, the missile has a KVO 5 m at a range of 5 500 km, the missile is capable of destroying moving targets, accurate to 2 m.

      Likely carriers - Su-34, Tu-22M, Tu-95, Tu-160


      And it starts automatically - the crew should only withdraw the aircraft to the area of ​​combat patrol ...
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      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 13 October 2015 12: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Rus2012
        the missile is capable of destroying moving targets, with an accuracy of 2 m.

        Это обман. Ракета предназначена для уничтожения стационарных целей чей "образ" известен и занесен в память ракеты. Ну и самое главное, вдарить б/ч на 250 кт по движущейся цели это зачем?
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 13 October 2015 14: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Mera Joota
          Ракета предназначена для уничтожения стационарных целей чей "образ" известен и занесен в память ракеты.


          http://defendingrussia.ru/enc/rakety_vz/perspektivnaja_strategicheskaja_krylataj
          a_raketa_kh101102-2499 /
          Second quality distinction X-101 with conventional warhead, from analogues is a combination of high range with the highest accuracy, including moving targets. Along with complementary inertial and satellite navigation systems, an optical homing head is installed on the X-101. In the final section, the correction is carried out by the television system "Octopus", which provides the possibility of defeat, including moving targets.

    14. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 13 October 2015 11: 54 New
      +1
      у них скорострельные спаренные пушки 23мм калибр.и в одно лицо без "пацанов" летают только по небу россии
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 13 October 2015 12: 08 New
        0
        It is strange if we are talking about the X-101/102 missile, then the range was promised 5500 kilometers, and not 4500 kilometers. Or for the X-101 4500 km, and for the X-102 (nuclear) 5500 km?
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        2. Mera joota
          Mera joota 13 October 2015 13: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          It is strange if we are talking about the X-101/102 missile, then the range was promised 5500 kilometers, and not 4500 kilometers. Or for the X-101 4500 km, and for the X-102 (nuclear) 5500 km?

          There is no open information. But the difference should be one and a half times.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 13 October 2015 14: 01 New
          +2
          Rather, we are talking about missiles X 55 and 555, and missiles X 101 and 102 are currently in service with quite a few.
    15. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 13 October 2015 12: 07 New
      +1
      I think the strategist will fly to the area where our fighters will free the sky. Also, the firing range of these missiles allows launching from our territory.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 October 2015 12: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Mareman Vasilich
        I think the strategist will fly to the area where our fighters will free the sky.

        ...логика в этом есть, НО в чужое небо они должны вторгаться только когда ПВО-ПРО противника с гарантией уничтожено. Это бывает после "превентивной зачистки" bully
    16. renics
      renics 13 October 2015 12: 10 New
      +2
      Вы о чём вообще. Эти описанные ракетоносцы имеющие на борту подобное вооружение с крылатыми ракетами с дальностью поражения 5,5 тыс. км, могут поражать любые цели вне зоны досягаемости истребителей противника. Так как ракеты воздух воздух не способны поражать объекты на такой дистанции. А так же не входя в зону действия противовоздушной обороны противника. Поэтому ваш вопрос отпадает как не нужный. Так что, и, характеристики новой ракеты могут быть и иными. Но, чтобы "разочарование" наступило больше и сильнее, "добавим в бензинчик огня":
      Х-101 — это дозвуковая крылатая ракета большой дальности. Ведет ракету к цели навигационный комплекс на основе системы ГЛОНАСС. На случай радиоэлектронных помех и отключения спутниковых систем навигации ракеты оснащены автономными инерциальными системами позиционирования. Ракета оснащена оптоэлектронной системой коррекции траектории полета, а также телевизионной системой наведения на конечном участке полета. Это обеспечивает точность попадания в цель 12-20 м.За счёт новой электронной базы система наведения стала меньше, чем в советских ракетах. Освободившееся место заняло топливо и боевая часть. Существует и ядерный вариант новой ракеты, получившей индекс Х-102. Разработана в МКБ "Радуга" с использованием опыта создания КРБД Х-55. Скорость полета ракеты — крейсерская 680–720 км/ч, максимальная 900–970 км/ч. Ту-95МС могут нести до 8 ракет на внешней подвеске
      Tu-160 can carry up to 12 missiles in two internal compartments
      Submarines of project 885 Ash can carry up to 32 missiles in 8 missile silos.
      Geometric and mass characteristics.
      Length m
      EPR, m2 0,01
      Starting weight, kg 2200-2400
      Conventional warhead type
      Weight of warhead, kg 400
      Power point
      DTRD engine
      flight data
      Speed, m / s cruising 190-200
      maximum 250-270
      KVO, m 12-20
      Launch range, km 5000-5500
      1. gjv
        gjv 13 October 2015 12: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: renics
        Tu-95MS can carry up to 8 missiles on an external sling

        The Tu-95MS is equipped with a multi-position drum launcher designed for six small-sized X-55 long-range subsonic cruise missiles (range 2500 km).
        According to other sources, ten X-95 / X-16 / X-55 can be suspended under the wing on four nodes on a Tu-101MS-102 aircraft (currently, in accordance with the Russian-American agreement, all Tu-95MS aircraft carry missiles only internal suspension). Under the wing on two nodes of the external suspension of the Tu-95MS-6 aircraft, four more X-55 missiles are allowed.


        Tu-95MS-6


        Tu-95MS-16 (b / n “red 10”, reg. Number RF-94128, name “Saratov”). New strategic cruise missiles X-101/102 - up to 8 (or 10?) Missiles on the external sling + 6 X-55 on the intra-fuselage launcher.
    17. FID
      FID 13 October 2015 12: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: bulvas
      After all, if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the earth, knock down a strategist and can intercept launched missiles

      What interceptor are you talking about? Launch range 4500 ... Name the interceptor, please ...
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 13 October 2015 12: 17 New
        0
        Quote: SSI
        Quote: bulvas
        After all, if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the earth, knock down a strategist and can intercept launched missiles

        What interceptor are you talking about? Launch range 4500 ... Name the interceptor, please ...


        Interceptors, those that show how they fly next to the strategist.


        In general, the topic of using a strategist is quite open, thank you all



        1. Dimka off
          Dimka off 14 October 2015 13: 25 New
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          Interceptors, those that show how they fly next to the strategist.

          Strategists let fly interceptors. In peacetime, this is normal.
    18. Koshak
      Koshak 13 October 2015 12: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: bulvas
      After all, if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the earth, knock down a strategist and can intercept launched missiles

      First, let these interceptors intercept the strategist for 4500 km to the target, and then try to shoot down. They, probably, will also not be sent to the combat use area without fighter cover.
    19. Engineer
      Engineer 13 October 2015 12: 59 New
      +2
      The Tu-95 was developed as a plane to clean up the United States after a nuclear missile strike against it. So according to plans, in general, enemy planes should not meet him in airspace. Tu-160 can escape from the pursuit easily.
    20. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 13 October 2015 13: 19 New
      +1
      With a launch range of 4500 km, the strategic strategist is violet with the presence of interceptors, which even have a short range. Not to mention the combat radius.
    21. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 13 October 2015 14: 52 New
      +1
      Only electronic warfare, which do not give aim to a fighter or air defense. Pretty strong.
    22. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 13 October 2015 14: 52 New
      0
      Only electronic warfare, which do not give aim to a fighter or air defense. Pretty strong.
    23. Talgat
      Talgat 13 October 2015 23: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: bulvas
      Interestingly, on strategists, are there air-to-air missiles to drive away fighters?


      No, there are no such rockets there

      In the event of a conflict, strategic bombers should not go into the intercepts of enemy fighters - that’s why they have such a flight range

      Russian strategists (as they write) must go to the northern latitudes and thousands of kilometers away, without entering the air defense zones, launch distant missiles
    24. Dimka off
      Dimka off 14 October 2015 13: 12 New
      0
      Quote: bulvas
      After all, if the interceptors see the launch of a rocket from a strategist, they will warn the earth, knock down a strategist and can intercept launched missiles

      A strategist with such missiles is not included in the coverage area of ​​enemy fighter aircraft. And launched missiles can of course be intercepted, but this is a difficult task - because they immediately descend and fly almost off the ground. In addition, strategists must hide behind our fighter aircraft, and especially in dangerous areas.
      And as I understand it, what is it about X-101 missiles? then why is the range underestimated? Will there be another surprise? laughing
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 13 October 2015 11: 03 New
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    Можно пускать эти ракеты, не заходя в зону действия ПРО противника. Так что все эти системы, расположенные в Европе, конечно штука серьезная, но - вместе с "Искандерами" и "Калибрами", ракеты воздушного базирования являются серьезным аргументом в сдерживании потенциального агрессора.
  3. St Petrov
    St Petrov 13 October 2015 11: 03 New
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    Korotchenko fumbles

    Why all these European cries, discussions about thousands of kilometers and calibers - there is a poplar and it flies more than 9 km. The rest is lyrics.

    As if woke up yesterday. We showed a stick to Europe, and they already forgot about the club, fear paralyzes

    Now we need to launch a couple of poplars live on Kamchatka, to make it beautiful as in an American show.


    1. Col.
      Col. 13 October 2015 11: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: s-t Petrov
      Korotchenko fumbles


      Korochenko: Air-launched missiles with a range of up to 4500 km are an integral part of Russia's strategic forces

      Sharit, but not really. Missiles are not forces, but facilities (means of destruction). And therefore, it was necessary to say: "Ракеты воздушного базирования дальностью до 4500 км состоят на вооружении стратегических сил России".

      Жаль, такой известный эксперт, и такие грубые ляпы допускает. А может, это журналюги снова "отредактировали" по-своему.
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 13 October 2015 12: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Colonel
        Missiles are not forces, but facilities (means of destruction). And therefore, it was necessary to say: "Ракеты воздушного базирования дальностью до 4500 км состоят на вооружении стратегических сил России".

        Жаль, такой известный эксперт, и такие грубые ляпы допускает. А может, это журналюги снова "отредактировали" по-своему.

        It is not clear why you cling to words and blame a person for incompetence. After all, if something is in the arsenal of some kind of troops, then it is their component.
        1. Col.
          Col. 13 October 2015 15: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Koshak
          It is not clear why you cling to words and blame a person for incompetence.


          Это не "цепляние к словам". Просто мне, как профессионалу, сразу режут слух подобные промахи. Нас долго учили точности и однозначности в выражениях. Ведь нелепо сказать, что, например, подкалиберные снаряды являются составной частью бронетанковых войск? В советские времена очень хорошо учили в академиях...
          Ещё меня коробит от выражений вроде "использовать вооружённые силы". Нас сразу обрывали фразой "Используют" презервативы, а силы apply!" Ну и т.д.
    2. Berthan
      Berthan 13 October 2015 11: 37 New
      +3
      Well yes. And as a target - to put together a model ...
      Damn - the imagination goes off scale, from the number of potential goals)
    3. Koshak
      Koshak 13 October 2015 12: 50 New
      0
      Quote: c-Petrov
      Why all these European cries, discussions about thousands of kilometers and calibers - there is a poplar and it flies more than 9 km. The rest is lyrics.

      Предлагаете по каждой ракетной позиции ПРО, по каждой казарме и складу долбать "тополями"? Накладненько получится, да и где столько "тополей" набрать. Если все МЕЖКОНТИНЕНТАЛЬНЫЕ ракеты по Европе использовать, то на матрасию ничего не останется.
  4. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
    +8
    Quote: bulvas
    Interestingly, on the strategists, there are some kind of air-to-air missiles

    Of course not. yes they are not needed there
  5. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
    +7
    In-in ... if something happened, Ipanem so ... that Mama do not grieve ... the message was learned?
  6. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
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    Their carriers are Tu-95MS and Tu-160.

    Symbols of peace, bear and white swan.
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 13 October 2015 11: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      Their carriers are Tu-95MS and Tu-160. Symbols of peace, bear and white swan.

      Beautiful and terrifying
      1. gjv
        gjv 13 October 2015 12: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: vc 72019
        Beautiful

        I like this photo, strong...

        Ту-160 "Александр Новиков" борт №12 рег.№ RF-94109, Энгельс, 2013
    2. gjv
      gjv 13 October 2015 11: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      Their carriers are Tu-95MS and Tu-160. Symbols of peace, bear and white swan.

      Quote: vc 72019
      Beautiful and terrifying


      Ту-160 "Павел Таран" (путинский) участвует в лётно-тактических учениях 2005 года, пуски Х-555, дозаправка в воздухе, Оленегорск, 16 августа 2005
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
    +9
    Airborne-based missile systems with a range of 4,5 thousand km, which Vladimir Putin previously mentioned, are part of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation


    Thus, our bombers, without entering the NATO or US air defense coverage area, can launch long-range missiles against targets on the territory of EUROPE and the USA ....
    not bad at all.
  8. Scoun
    Scoun 13 October 2015 11: 05 New
    +6
    And I have this photo on the headband))) and the Strategist is named after my / our city))) fellow
    so we envy silently))) tongue
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    2. gjv
      gjv 13 October 2015 13: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Scoun
      And I have this photo on the headband))) and the Strategist is named after my / our city)))

      Ту-95МС б/н "20" «Дубна» RF-94177. Без натовца...

  9. Igor39
    Igor39 13 October 2015 11: 05 New
    +6
    Well, why so immediately 4.5 thousand km, another 1,5 did not count and then new data wink
  10. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 11: 05 New
    +8
    Quote: sever.56
    You can launch these missiles without entering the enemy’s missile defense coverage area.

    You can launch these missiles without entering the range Defense the adversary.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2015 11: 07 New
    +4
    show Russia's determination to use it to suppress possible aggressive actions against our country

    Думаю, что в результате последних событий в решимости России у западных "партнеров" сомнений не осталось. Другой вопрос - как далеко могут зайти эти "партнеры" и хватит ли у них решительности развязать войну?
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 13 October 2015 11: 19 New
      +3
      "This strategic weapon can be used only in extreme circumstances, in the event of a nuclear missile attack on Russia, or aggression against our country using conventional armed forces, when the very existence of the Russian state is threatened," If my memory serves me right. For a long time, the concept of warfare with nuclear weapons has not changed much. The GDP said that now we can use nuclear weapons in preemptive strikes against an adversary who could start a war against us in the near future.
  12. ilyaches
    ilyaches 13 October 2015 11: 16 New
    +3
    "Их носителями являются Ту-95МС и Ту-160"

    And these beauties are based in our city of Engels, Saratov Region.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 13 October 2015 11: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: ilyaches
      "Их носителями являются Ту-95МС и Ту-160"

      And these beauties are based in our city of Engels, Saratov Region.

      In a month, my son’s sister’s son will come from the army. I'll ask you how it is. hi
    2. VadimSt
      VadimSt 13 October 2015 13: 36 New
      +1
      This is without you, everyone has long known. And excessive talkativeness is a contagious disease, and does not add credibility!
  13. roskot
    roskot 13 October 2015 11: 26 New
    +4
    “A potential adversary knows that we have such a weapon”

    We are not threatening. We warn that in case of a threat there is something to answer.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2015 11: 29 New
    +2
    Зачем "стратегам" лезть в зоны ПВО вероятного противника. При такой дальности полета КР и трудностях ее перехвата - стратега под нашим зонтиком просто не достать ничем. Это такая быстро перемещающаяся оружейная платформа.
  15. Kalmar
    Kalmar 13 October 2015 11: 39 New
    +2
    Было бы забавно эту чудо-ракету приладить, скажем, к Су-34. Получился бы интересный аппарат с уже "стратегическими" возможностями, но при этом не попадающий под договор СНВ: у самого носителя дальность до стратегической не дотягивает. Ну и на аэродромах базирования простые "сушки" привлекали бы куда меньше внимания, чем Ту-95/160. Эх, мечты, мечты...
  16. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 13 October 2015 11: 40 New
    +2
    Больше всего понравилось "are serially produced"
  17. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 13 October 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    the armor is strong and our tanks are fast, and our people and nefig speak :)
  18. veksha50
    veksha50 13 October 2015 11: 47 New
    +2
    "и, даже не применяя это оружие, показать решимость России его использовать для пресечения возможных агрессивных действий против нашей страны"...

    So let the guys fly ... And they - training, and the enemy - not to sleep and not to a quiet life ...

    PS Not all of them - to us - to troll ...
  19. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 11: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Kalmar
    Так вот, данная фраза вполне подходит для пилотов B-2. Основным оружием этого "стелса" являются свободнопадающие бомбы (ракеты, насколько знаю, он не умеет), так что вынужден подбираться к цели почти вплотную сквозь вражескую (нашу :)) ПВО

    Does not have or cannot bear? Actually, it could use AGM-129 ACM cruise missiles. Another thing is that now these missiles are destroyed, but what they are going to replace, alas, we still do not know ...

    Quote: Kalmar
    Было бы забавно эту чудо-ракету приладить, скажем, к Су-34. Получился бы интересный аппарат с уже "стратегическими" возможностями, но при этом не попадающий под договор СНВ: у самого носителя дальность до стратегической не дотягивает. Ну и на аэродромах базирования простые "сушки" привлекали бы куда меньше внимания, чем Ту-95/160. Эх, мечты, мечты...

    In-in. especially considering that her pylons are not designed for that weight laughing
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 13 October 2015 12: 13 New
      +1
      Does not have or cannot bear?

      I suppose nothing fundamentally impossible is possible, but right now there are only bombs for the B-2. In principle, it is expected: if you make a long-range missile (2000 km or more), then why use the expensive B-2, it will be much cheaper and easier to hang it on the same B-52. And B-2, in the end, is needed only to symbolize :)

      In-in. especially considering that her pylons are not designed for that weight

      А вот не факт, кстати. У Х-101 (речь ведь о ней?) стартовый вес - 2400 кг. Вместе с тем, на Су-27 (или кого-то из этого семейства) навешивалась ракета Х-41, она же "Москит", весом почти 4000кг. Так что с этой точки зрения затея все еще выглядит реализуемой.
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    3. Amurets
      Amurets 13 October 2015 15: 23 New
      +2
      Old26! Now I rummaged through everything that was available and found only one, well, this is not a secret for you, these are agm-137 (TSSAM) combat modules. And the statement that experimental research is being carried out on hypersonic missiles. I haven’t found anything more on new developments in the USA. I don’t understand or they’ve kept it secret, or they really are still thinking; where to go.
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 13 October 2015 22: 12 New
        0
        I don’t understand or they have kept it secret, or they really are still thinking; where to go.

        I will voice my expert sofa opinion. Even the most modern bomber has near-zero chances of survival in the area of ​​operation of modern air defense systems. And until some fundamentally new means of counteracting air defense have appeared, the most promising is the concept of a strategic missile carrier capable of hitting targets from very large distances.

        Under these conditions, the B-2 turns into a suitcase without a handle. In the role of a missile carrier (i.e., in fact, an air platform for launching the KR), it is too expensive, in the role of a simple bomber, it is useless (for it will be knocked down). At the same time, you won’t hand him over either: taxpayers are very upset by such a mediocre write-off of the crown of American aircraft construction worth a third of the aircraft carrier.

        The most profitable thing in this situation is to portray the turbulent activity of turning the B-2 into something really useful and quietly wait until it just runs out of resources. And there you can already write off without too much talk.
  20. Belousov
    Belousov 13 October 2015 12: 14 New
    +1
    It happens that the Bears fly. It's still Russia lol soldier
  21. botsman80
    botsman80 13 October 2015 12: 40 New
    +1
    Знать и видеть в действии - разные вещи! Вот если бы прилетела такая с Мурманска и в СМИ ненароком показали карту и объяснили, что от Мурманска до Дамаска столько же сколько и до Лиссабона (крайней точки Европы) - "Старый Свет" на ...опу бы и сел...
  22. Zmii
    Zmii 13 October 2015 12: 57 New
    +1
    One can’t believe it, looking at the frame, if the strategists really go to work, not for a walk, then all kinds of flies will be allowed to spin around them. In the meantime, let them be proud of the photo shoot against their background. For some, this is truly an event of a lifetime, try not to get rid of only their appearance, albeit of advanced age.
  23. Termit1309
    Termit1309 13 October 2015 13: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Kalmar
    Вместе с тем, на Су-27 (или кого-то из этого семейства) навешивалась ракета Х-41, она же "Москит", весом почти 4000кг

    Yeah, I saw the picture in the Model Designer. Only besides this picture, I did not find any real photos or launch data request
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 13 October 2015 14: 01 New
      +1
      Here is a subject already suspended from the Su-33. You can read the link: http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/pkr/moskit.html.
    2. renics
      renics 13 October 2015 14: 14 New
      +1
      In the mid-seventies, the United States Central Intelligence Agency began to receive reports that the Russians had begun developing an anti-ship cruise super-rocket. It was about the only Mosquito cruise missile in the world that rushes literally over the crests of waves at a speed two and a half times faster than the speed of sound. Why is this rocket called "Sunburn" by NATO forces and what is its uniqueness about this in the film the designer himself, as well as the vice president of Tupolev OJSC, lieutenant general, former commander of the 37th air army Mikhail Oparin will tell. The design bureau Raduga, which is headed by professor Seleznev, except for Mosquito, for the Navy Russia also created other missiles, which are equipped with almost all aircraft of the Long and Naval Aviation.
  24. renics
    renics 13 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +3
    The new Russian weapons, the world's first maneuvering hypersonic cruise missile, must successfully overcome any missile defense system. The missile is called the X-90, and is the Kremlin’s response to Washington’s missile defense program. A prototype missile is designated as GELA (a hypersonic experimental aircraft). In the west, the project is known under the harmless name "AS-X-21 Koala".

    Russia's new weapon is the X-90 Koala cruise missile • The X-90 missile is launched with the help of Tu-160M ​​strategic bombers, which are a symbol of Russian military power. "M" - modified - means in this case that the wings of the machine are increased. The experimental X-90 was successfully tested in February 2004, during the strategic command and staff exercises "Security 2004" in the presence of Vladimir Putin.
    According to the developers, the X-90 missile is able to overcome all available as well as advanced missile defense systems and destroy targets with great accuracy, including on other continents. According to reports, the missile was planned for adoption in 2010.
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 13 October 2015 14: 28 New
      0
      The experimental sample X-90 was successfully tested in February 2004

      As a prototype of the X-90, the GEL experimental apparatus is mentioned. Regarding it, the following occurs (quote from Wikipedia):
      On December 13, 2012, the representative of the ICD "Rainbow" in an interview with the newspaper Izvestia stated the following:

      GELA has been “out of date for 10 years” and “no prototypes have been produced there.” The design bureau does not know about any experimental flights.
      - Perhaps, colleagues from TsAGI are talking about a formal decision, because the closure of the project is already a fait accompli. We have not been working with him for 10 years, ”he said.


      Judging by the fact that, in addition to the mysterious tests of a decade ago, this rocket never surfaced anywhere else, it actually does not exist (in any case, in a more or less finished form).
  25. renics
    renics 13 October 2015 14: 20 New
    +1
    [img = left] http://voenkor.info/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/articles/r
    lrrl1qyrsc.jpg?itok=058Z4tzq[/img]Японская радиостанция NHK сообщила, что располагает данными о поступлении на вооружение России новейших крылатых ракет с ядерной боеголовкой под названием "Одуванчик", передает группа "Политика".

    The publication gives the tactical and technical characteristics of the Russian product, which it calls a real nightmare for the countries included in the NATO bloc and for Japan.

    "Новейшая русская крылатая ракета "Одуванчик" с ядерной боеголовкой способна становиться невидимой для ракет перехвата, благодаря способности сбрасывать внешний слой в момент подлета ракеты-перехватчика и ее захвата системами наведения. Для достижения невидимости используются хладогенты. То есть, отделяется внешняя обшивка, имеющая определенную температуру и на которую срабатывают системы целеуказания перехвата, а электроника ракеты, используя хладогенты, понижает температуру второй обшивки до состояния "невидимости" на определенный промежуток времени, достаточный для выхода из зоны поражения.

    Более того, русские подстраховались и если ракета перехватывается (сбивается) то ядерный заряд срабатывает в точке перехвата, то есть ядерная реакция произойдет вне зависимости от того, сбили крылатую ракету или нет, - получится наземный неконтактный взрыв, так как русский "Одуванчик" маневрирует на предельно низких высотах. И взрыв этот произойдет над территорией возможного перехвата (уничтожения ракеты). Учитывая, что перехват возможен только над территориями стран, входящих в блок НАТО или в непосредственной близости от Японии, то нанесенный ущерб от русской крылатой ракеты становится ужасным. Сбивать ракету или не сбивать - она все равно достигнет цели." - констатируют японские СМИ.

    We do not bear responsibility for the reliability, we attach the link to the source.
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 13 October 2015 14: 34 New
      +1
      Японская радиостанция NHK сообщила, что располагает данными о поступлении на вооружение России новейших крылатых ракет с ядерной боеголовкой под названием "Одуванчик"

      It is strange that no one except the Japanese (why Japanese?) Radio station knows about the new rocket.

      То есть, отделяется внешняя обшивка, имеющая определенную температуру и на которую срабатывают системы целеуказания перехвата, а электроника ракеты, используя хладогенты, понижает температуру второй обшивки до состояния "невидимости" на определенный промежуток времени, достаточный для выхода из зоны поражения.

      I'm sorry, what? Of course, I already do not remember physics well, but does the skin temperature affect the radar signal reflection parameters so much? And then, does this rocket really drag on itself an extra shell and a whole refrigerant bug? How much does she herself weigh then?
  26. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 October 2015 14: 54 New
    0
    4500 km are missiles with nuclear warheads. There is also with the usual, but the range there is 1500-2000 km. Warhead weighs more than Nuclear.
  27. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 16: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Kalmar
    Here is a subject already suspended from the Su-33. You can read the link:

    Read. Something designated as ASM-MSS is suspended on a special holder (instead of two standard ones) under the T-10K-9 prototype. Just there was ABSOLUTELY NO information about the tests of this anti-ship missile air-based. As there were no tests with a ground launcher on a car chassis. Although drawings and layouts wandered from exhibition to exhibition. The desire was, but not realized.
    И главное, смысл в размещении ракеты Х-101/102 на "сушке". Через Атлантику и Тихий океан она все равно не добьет, а ТТХ СУ-... при этом упадут причем значительно. Зачем из хорошего тактического бомбардировщика делать х.р.еновый стратегический?
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 13 October 2015 21: 59 New
      0
      Just there was ABSOLUTELY NO information about the tests of this anti-ship air-based missile

      Так я ж и не спорю. Речь шла о принципиальной возможности подвесить некое изделие весом в 2500 кг к "сушке". Если 4000 кг не отваливаются, то и 2500 реально удержать.

      И главное, смысл в размещении ракеты Х-101/102 на "сушке". Через Атлантику и Тихий океан она все равно не добьет, а ТТХ СУ-... при этом упадут причем значительно.

      As for the performance characteristics - why immediately fall? 2500 kg is not such a big load for her (how much is the maximum? 6000?). Aerodynamics can suffer - here you can play with fairings.

      Что касается "зачем" - в таком виде, скажем, "сушка" может заменить собой РСМД, о которых недавно снова стала грезить наша общественность. Под ограничения договора о РСМД она не подпадает, т.к. не является наземной установкой. Стратегом тоже не является, т.е. СНВ вроде как тоже побоку. Клепай в любых количествах, на радость Европе, Китаю и Ближнему востоку. Если уж совсем дать волю воображению, то с ПТБ и самолетами-заправщиками можно даже до западного побережья США докопаться, кстати говоря.

      Well, foreseeing criticism and minus, I’ll immediately make a reservation: all this is just free fantasy on the topic, nothing more. Please do not take too seriously :)
  28. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 13 October 2015 16: 53 New
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    Thank you, enlightened, nice to read!
  29. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 22: 53 New
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    Quote: Kalmar
    As for the performance characteristics - why immediately fall? 2500 kg is not such a big load for her (how much is the maximum? 6000?). Aerodynamics can suffer - here you can play with fairings.

    At standard loads, the combat radius is about 1200 km. probably due to increased resistance, the radius will fall, even 200-300 kilometers. Here I don’t understand what such an idea is. Option 1 aircraft-1 rocket - not optimal. It’s better to adapt the TU-101M bomber to the X-22 ....
    Я бы мог понять к примеру использование на СУ-34 авиационных вариантов "Калибра"
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 13 October 2015 23: 32 New
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      At standard loads, the combat radius is about 1200 km. probably due to increased resistance, the radius will fall, even 200-300 kilometers.

      If this crazy idea is considered as an alternative to the INF, the combat radius of the aircraft does not play a role at all: with a launch range of 4500 km, it can reach a lot right from the airfield. It’s unlikely to reach the United States, but Europe and China can easily please Europe.

      It’s better to adapt the TU-101M bomber to the X-22 ....

      Tu-22M, if they do not change my sclerosis, it is mentioned in the START treaty, and this is not so interesting. By the way, I climbed here on Wikipedia: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Х-101. And there:
      Su-34 can carry up to 2 missiles on an external sling
      Tu-22M can carry up to 4 missiles

      Well, nothing can be invented, everyone has already come up with me :) Although, of course, this can all be a duck.

      Я бы мог понять к примеру использование на СУ-34 авиационных вариантов "Калибра"

      Если верить доступным источникам, массо-габаритные характеристики "Калибров" и Х-101 не так уж и сильно различаются.