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Defense News: The launch of Caliber missiles in the Caspian Sea is of paramount importance

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The American Defense News portal published material that says many analysts ignored the launch of the Caliber missiles, which Russian ships carried out on the Caspian Sea on October 7, but in reality the ability to use small, inexpensive and relatively simple ships to deliver high-precision strikes RIA writes "News".




Prior to that, Russian ships in the area were considered only as local forces, but now it is clear that the Caliber, which is in many ways similar to the American Tomahawk, can also be launched from small ships, such as the Buyan-M. Moreover, the same goals on the territory of Syria could have been destroyed with the help of other means, therefore, according to American officials, by launching Calibrov, the Russian Federation made it clear that it could use this technology.

A naval analyst at the Washington Center for Strategic and Budgetary Evaluation noted that, thanks to the Caliber missiles, the Buyan-M became the ship of the “distributed lethal strike.” This approach involves the installation of such weapons on several small ships dispersed to make it difficult to defeat, which are then combined to obtain the desired force of impact. The US is working on this concept, however, the Russian Federation has demonstrated a ready implementation.

The analyst stressed that small rocket ships of the Russian Navy with a displacement of 900 tons are less noticeable than warships of the coastal zone of the US Navy with a displacement of 4000 tons. According to him, the use of "Buyanov" allows to achieve even greater efficiency than the one to which the United States aspires.
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  1. chikenous59
    chikenous59 13 October 2015 10: 20
    41
    We do not have as much money as the United States, so we have the savvy!
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 13 October 2015 10: 31
      16
      But they warned!
      The President of Russia noted that "the answer must be asymmetric - so that everyone understands that yes, there is an anti-missile defense system, but it is meaningless in relation to Russia, because it has such a weapon that can overcome it. We will follow this path, it is cheaper for us, "Putin stressed, referring to the alternative to building our own missile defense system.
      This is 2007
      "Russia's military-technical response to the global American missile defense and its segment in Europe will be effective and asymmetric. And it will fully correspond to the US steps in the missile defense sphere. Within ten years, a large number of fundamentally new equipment will enter service with the Russian army, which will" see "further , shoots more accurately and responds faster than similar systems of any potential enemy. "
      This is already 2012 and also Putin.
      And the fact that this was an unpleasant surprise for the West speaks of the lack of professionalism of the local intelligence services and the clumsiness of the political leadership.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 13 October 2015 10: 41
        14
        Khe ... it was thought. The Americans with Caspian constantly have some kind of shocks. Caspian monster, Caspian volley of calibers, and then .... volley of calibers from Caspian monsters ... only from small and nimble that you can get as much as hell! wassat
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 13 October 2015 10: 51
          +6
          And how would overseas Obkomovtsa squealing with singing from the EU and NATO, if such a volley were really from the counterparts of the Caspian Monster. It is hard to imagine... belay
        2. Oman 47
          Oman 47 13 October 2015 11: 11
          +2
          Sid
          Recently, the info was leaked, incl. - and in the VO, - that the Russian Navy intends to revive the "Caspian Monsters" program.
          In the missile and amphibious versions.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 13 October 2015 11: 17
            +2
            Quote: Oman 47
            In the missile and amphibious versions.

            Duc, I thought. And the shipyard "MORE" in the Crimea here in the subject.yes
            Before the perestroika, they were planning to do ekranoplans.
          2. Batia
            Batia 13 October 2015 11: 54
            +1
            I also came across this info.
        3. Borets
          Borets 13 October 2015 12: 42
          +2
          A salvo with calibers of Caspian monsters) PS I know what a Caspian monster is, it just begs for itself to continue)
      2. GRAY
        GRAY 13 October 2015 11: 16
        12
        Quote: Penetrator
        and the clumsiness of political leadership.

        I must say that they rather quickly tried to add a fly in the ointment - I mean the missiles allegedly dropped in Iran.
        Even "proofs" appeared on the network:


        This is from here:
        http://asian-defence-news.blogspot.ru/2015/10/photos-allegedly-of-parts-of-russi
        an.html
        Comments under the photo deliver incredibly:
        And the radio-electronic circuit is like a refrigerator, of course I understand that the electronics are not very good for us, but not for a rocket in which every gram counts. ABBU, ABBUR, ABBRVAL ... In turn, sons of bitches ...

        Transmission from the tractor and a piece of TV ...... Oh .... how funny I am))))

        Photo 1
        It looks like a tank turret rotation reducer.
        The vryatli chip is related to this gearbox.
        Photo 2
        No less aldite piece of iron, wall thickness about 3 mm.
        I think these are pieces of a torn tank.
        Conclusion:
        Not exactly like the details of a 21st century rocket.

        They lie. our tube-based rockets, and then some high technology. Again, there is no coal scattered anywhere - in any case, it remains in the bunker. The cast-iron filling is apparently spindili. But she has a unique destructive power. In a radius equal to the radius of the striking element 100% destruction.

        Beside the corpses of the pilot and two stokers

        It looks like a checkpoint from 6, damn, the pilot was controlled by a suicide bomber.

        BL smile , YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TRUE PHOTOS !!! WHAT IS THIS LABELING "ABBU" WRITTEN BY THE FLOMASTER BY HAND?
        THIS FUCES RUSSIA, DO MISSIONS AT PLANTS WHERE THE LABELING IS STAMPED, NOT WRITTEN FROM HAND !!!

        This is garbage from the garbage. My wife even said that it could not be a rocket. Look at the thickness of the metal, This is probably a piece of a tank or car. Morons.
        1. Proud.
          Proud. 13 October 2015 11: 48
          +6
          Quote: GRAY
          Comments under the photo deliver incredibly:

          Thanks for the link! This comment amused too: "ABBU - Used Air Bomb ....."
        2. Sergey333
          Sergey333 13 October 2015 19: 29
          +1
          You, dear, work on the defense industry and you will understand that this filling is like the truth. Do not see how it is from the inside do not panic with stupid comments.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 13 October 2015 21: 26
            +2
            Quote: Sergey333
            You, dear, work on the defense industry and you will understand that this filling is like the truth.

            You, my dear, pay attention to the fact that there is not a single fragment of the feselage and you will understand that this does not seem to be true.
    2. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 13 October 2015 10: 43
      +2
      chikenous59
      We do not have as much money as the United States, so we have the savvy!

      Therefore, not only they are very worried ... but also in certain branches of production - sheer jubilation. For example, IN THE PHARMACOLOGICAL INDUSTRY! Still would! Just imagine HOW MUCH DIFFERENT ANTI-DEPRESSANTS, PILLS FOR HEADACHE AND INSOLIA IS NOW IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE "WASHINGTON OBKOM"! Packages and boxes! How to do business the American way!
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 13 October 2015 10: 48
      +2
      The Americans admitted that someone in something is better ... yes! belay
    4. smith7
      smith7 13 October 2015 11: 07
      +2
      Quote: chikenous59
      We do not have as much money as the United States, so we have the savvy!

      And estimate what will happen if you give money? They steal half, but then they will create it! I believe in Russian technical genius! Unified State Exam has been canceled and the popularity of engineering professions raised ... To the stake ?!
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    6. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 13 October 2015 11: 18
      +2
      You just learned that the Russians are such inventors that you want to make even a stick an effective weapon! wink
    7. Lukich
      Lukich 13 October 2015 13: 42
      +9
      Quote: chikenous59
      We do not have as much money as the United States, so we have the savvy!
    8. Sea Wolf
      Sea Wolf 13 October 2015 14: 59
      +2
      Just Russian-talented people.
  2. Ross_ulair
    Ross_ulair 13 October 2015 10: 21
    11
    Our designers and counterintelligence have obviously eaten their bread for the past decade and a half soldier
    1. FID
      FID 13 October 2015 10: 41
      +7
      Quote: ROSS_Ulair
      Our designers and counterintelligence have obviously eaten their bread for the past decade and a half



      In 1983, the development of RCC Alpha (ROC Turquoise) began to participate in the competition of the USSR Ministry of Defense (together with RCC Yakhont) for the creation of a new RCC, which it won. First introduced at MAKS-93. Subsequently, Alpha became the basis for the 3M54 anti-ship missiles (export limited range options: 3M54E, shortened to the standard NATO 3M54E1 torpedo tube) universal caliber complex (OKR Caliber), complemented by the strategic KR 3M14, based on the strategic KR Grenade previously developed at SMKB Novator ( 3M10) with a combat radius of 3000 km, as well as an 91R1 / 91RT2 anti-submarine missile (export options 91RE1 / 91RTE2).

      About a decade and a half of work somehow ...
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 13 October 2015 10: 51
        +4
        Quote: SSI
        About a decade and a half of work somehow ...

        But it is worth noting that the concept itself)) consciously or not, the nomes were ahead of the United States))
        that thanks to the caliber rockets "Buyan-M" became the ship of the "distributed lethal strike." This approach involves the installation of such weapons on several small ships, dispersed to complicate the defeat, which are then combined to obtain the desired impact force. USA working on this concept, but The Russian Federation has demonstrated the finished implementation.
        Small missile ships of the Russian Navy with a displacement of 900 tons are invisible than warships of the coastal zone of the US Navy with a displacement of 4000 tons. According to him, the use of “Buyans” allows you to achieve even greater efficiency than that which the United States seeks.

        These moments cannot but please)) taking into account the fact that traditionally the US Navy was conceptually perhaps more advanced, and we all focused on our Air Force (Koryavo put it, but something like that)))) I am very happy for our Fleet.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 13 October 2015 11: 00
        +1
        SSI! Can i ask you? 3m25 Meteorite. It seems everything was going fine and suddenly everything about this rocket disappears. What did Gorbachev pass? Or the tests did not go. It seems that it was already going to the conveyor?
        1. FID
          FID 13 October 2015 11: 46
          +2
          Quote: Amurets
          What did Gorbachev pass her?

          Simply, ALL stopped testing and releasing ... Remember the meetings at Malta and everything else, and, further, the liberals who came from EBN continued the collapse. My heart bleeds when I came to the factories ...
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 13 October 2015 12: 34
            +3
            Thank you! I remember how Gorbachev said that we would produce high-tech frying pans at military factories. Fools aren’t mammoths, they don’t die out and they aren’t listed in the Red Book, I’m talking about Gorbachev and EBN. Thanks again for the consultation.
  3. Constructor1
    Constructor1 13 October 2015 10: 22
    +4
    Yeah, gradually after the shock from the "Caspian caliber" the Americans began to come to their senses laughing
    Articulate began to talk wassat
  4. Balu495
    Balu495 13 October 2015 10: 23
    51
    As a matter of fact, everything was:

    A night special communication call woke the commander of the Caspian Flotilla.
    - At the device! said the rear admiral, squinting at his watch.
    “Igor Vladimirovich,” he heard in the pipe the cheerful voice of the Minister of Defense. - Do you still have rusty and non-flying Caliber missiles?
    - These are the ones that fly a maximum of three hundred kilometers? - asked the commander.
    - I got the joke! Well done! - answered Shoigu. - Listen to the battle order!
    Having listened to the order, the rear admiral jumped into his tunic, looked at the photo, where he stood embracing the commanders of the Pacific and Northern fleets and smiled triumphantly:
    - Well, Seryoga and Vovka? Who is "floating in shallow kayak"?
    Five minutes later, the rocket ship of the 11661 Dagestan project made its first launches.
    Ten minutes later, the frustrated Northern Fleet Commander called the Minister of Defense to allow him to support the Caspian sailors ’initiative by launching the Bulava from the Yuri Dolgoruky submarine-launched cruiser.
    - One small start! - Admiral boomed. - One small such "Bulava" ...
    - quit! - Shoigu decisively ordered, imagining a “small Mace” and shuddering. - The whole and united Syria in the region does not mean - Syria, the only surviving in the region. After all, there are still many different and original countries!
    - Yes? - surprised the admiral. “It's just that I can't see the periscope from here, it's to blame!”
    And by noon, the sailor of the rocket ship Arsen Muradov became an icon of the whole of Dagestan, as he managed to write on the cruise missile "Dagi - power!" Before launching
    lol
    1. Balu495
      Balu495 13 October 2015 10: 29
      34
      The reaction of the democratic West to the next sortie of the Russian military was stormy.
      - By this, Russia showed its weakness! - said the US president and ordered to immediately remove the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt from the Persian Gulf in order to show his strength, after which it became completely clear to the civilized world that Raska was everything.
      Thousands of military experts did not go to school that day and began scribbling analytics, where, like two and two, they argued that the Russian Federation had no missiles, no fleet, and no Caspian Sea.
      Turkish President Erdogan Pasha, realizing that the freebie with oil at ten bucks a barrel ends, rashly stated that Turkey would give up Russian gas and nuclear power plants, which immediately broke the unprecedented achievements of Ukrainians who left themselves without the Russian market, the sky and money.
      Erdogan was immediately approached by enterprising Japanese with a proposal to sell the Fukushima nuclear power plant for low-cost excellent, with low mileage, after engine reassembly, painting, replacing iron in a circle and with a beautiful Sparco sticker on the hole in the reactor.
      In general, paraphrasing the classics, the consequences of the Russian missile strike were felt not only by the terrorists - few who have not yet felt them.
      1. Tanker55
        Tanker55 13 October 2015 12: 14
        +1
        Thanks to "Balu495", made me happy and laugh.
    2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 13 October 2015 14: 18
      0
      I do not believe. Even the children in the pioneer camp do not speak or reason this way. And the "icon of Dagestan" is already too much. It's a sin for them. Better to put the word "hero" No.
  5. DenZ
    DenZ 13 October 2015 10: 24
    +2
    According to him, the use of "Buyans" allows you to achieve even greater efficiency than the one that the US is striving for.

    So it is so only for some reason they forget that American ships armed with tomahawks are still ships of the oceanic zone, unlike the Buyans, so it is incorrect to compare one with the other in principle.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 13 October 2015 10: 36
      +1
      Why do we need the ocean? If this is not the Arctic Ocean (while the Arctic, perhaps) the ocean.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 13 October 2015 13: 03
        +2
        But what about the Pacific Ocean, a big puddle? But a third of the sea border is the eastern border on the Pacific Ocean.
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 13 October 2015 14: 29
          +1
          And one of the experts can say: Does Russia really need a large fleet? Our army is victorious. The rich traditions of successful land battles and operations. But the fleet is somehow not easy. In the Second World War, sailors showed themselves mainly on land. I don’t feel like talking bad about him. Now the situation is different, or can we still only defeat the Turks or Swedes? Only please, without hatred, in essence.
  6. chikenous59
    chikenous59 13 October 2015 10: 25
    +2
    Quote: Designer 1
    Yeah, gradually after the shock from the "Caspian caliber" the Americans began to come to their senses laughing
    Articulate began to talk wassat

    Honestly, I doubt that their intelligence did not know about such capabilities of our fleet, it’s just that nobody covered it in the media to preserve the image of US exceptionalism. The Americans are not scared, their opportunities are really huge militarily. And the courage of American soldiers can only be verified by a real combat clash with a major power, but I hope that the world will not slide to such a thing!
    1. theodore rasp
      theodore rasp 13 October 2015 10: 39
      +9
      Surely something, and the courage of American soldiers has been tested many times over the past 100 years. The result - well done against the sheep, and against the well done the sheep himself.
    2. CAMS
      CAMS 13 October 2015 11: 22
      +1
      It’s true, analysts wrote about the possibilities of the new caliber a year ago. And I do not understand the puppy delight of visitors to this site. Americans are far from stupid, but very practical, which is not very comparable with stupidity. There is a multi-way section, a redivision of the Middle East, so there will be surprises and not only from us.
  7. Evkur
    Evkur 13 October 2015 10: 26
    +6
    In the spirit of the Russian fairy tale - "Kashchei's death is in the needle and the needle is in the egg" and now Kashchei is shocked by the Russians !!!
  8. zzz
    zzz 13 October 2015 10: 27
    +5
    The United States is working on this concept, however ..... it's time to go back to the plantation)
  9. volot-voin
    volot-voin 13 October 2015 10: 27
    +4
    At the same time and teachings and with benefit for business.
  10. rodin12
    rodin12 13 October 2015 10: 27
    +1
    We are the first in the world how the caliber proved to be unlike tamahawks
  11. NEXUS
    NEXUS 13 October 2015 10: 27
    +7
    I think in the next three to five years the Kyrgyz Republic will appear better and more long-range Calibers, both sea and land-based. Of course, small ships of the coastal zone with such an arsenal are wonderful, but we need to start building destroyers of the project Flurry and Leader as soon as possible equipping them with such or more advanced complexes in the future as Caliber-NK. And every day the question of the speedy construction of Leaders and Shkvalov is becoming more acute, because our fleet is aging and most of the ships are still built in Soviet times. And the adversary does not sleep and builds new ships, technological and modern, taking into account the new realities of combat use.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 13 October 2015 10: 49
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      I think in the next three to five years, the KR will have better and more long-range calibers, both sea and land-based.

      And CLUB-K? This is also the Caliber family. And the Club-M mobile coastal defense missile system on the MZKT-7930 chassis. Everything is already there.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 13 October 2015 11: 01
        +1
        Quote: Sid.74
        A CLUB-K? This is also the Caliber family.

        Yes, but the export version is not so long-range. With reduced performance characteristics. I'm talking about a fundamentally NEW rocket and complex. In fact, the same CLAB-K is a development of the Soviet era and the Caliber rocket of the 80s. It is clear that this is all is being modernized taking into account new technologies, but still, I think our designers are preparing a "surprise" for the foe even more unpleasant.
  12. Barboskin
    Barboskin 13 October 2015 10: 28
    +1
    Considering the Caspian Sea, which is closed to strangers, with good air defense, you won’t get anything!
  13. ilyaches
    ilyaches 13 October 2015 10: 29
    +3
    How, recently, Americans have come to love such adjectives as "lethal", "moderate". They need to memorize two words "Polite people". soldier
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 October 2015 10: 38
      +4
      They do not have a suitable translation. laughing
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 13 October 2015 11: 04
        +3
        The Americans have a poor supply of words, which is already degrading, yielding more and more interjections like Yo !, Wow !, Chet! and by the way.
      2. Thronekeeper
        Thronekeeper 13 October 2015 13: 04
        0
        Galant men. Idiomatically, "gentlemen" can be translated. Why not. In the press, Britons and Pen * ostan are quite translating themselves.
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  14. mpzss
    mpzss 13 October 2015 10: 33
    +2
    I am interested in two things:
    1-how so the USA, with their "vaunted" intelligence, slept through SUCH capabilities of the "Caliber" ?;
    2-what are they up to us in return !?
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 13 October 2015 11: 58
      0
      How did you get the idea that they were profiling something? Infa in range Caliber in 1500 or even 2600 has long been freely available on the network.
  15. Solidgrasp
    Solidgrasp 13 October 2015 10: 34
    +2
    And how do they look at the fact that the Gauges are able to fly out of 30-foot sea containers from the deck of peacefully plowing the expanses of the ocean of merchant ships.
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 October 2015 10: 43
      +4
      Excuse me, what are 30-foot ones? lol
      1. Solidgrasp
        Solidgrasp 13 October 2015 10: 46
        0
        Weed. 40 feet.
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    3. Sea Wolf
      Sea Wolf 13 October 2015 15: 08
      +1
      There are no such containers. There are 40ft and 20ft. The height is still slightly different. There are also refrigerated containers and tanks enclosed in a steel frame.
  16. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 13 October 2015 10: 34
    +6
    ship distributed lethal blow-what a delicious sound! all the same, you cannot refuse these eloquence to analysts.
  17. teron
    teron 13 October 2015 10: 42
    +2
    "... The USA is working on this concept, but the Russian Federation has demonstrated a ready-made implementation.

    The analyst stressed that small missile ships of the Russian Navy with a displacement of 900 tons are more invisible than warships of the coastal zone of the US Navy with a displacement of 4000 tons ... "

    They won’t succeed. And not because they don’t know how to do it, but because there is a lot of money. Therefore, they will have such ships with a displacement of 4000 tons. And cost accordingly.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 13 October 2015 10: 53
      +5
      After all, there is no place on the 900-ton ship for a restaurant, a fitness center and other naval conditions, without which it is impossible for an American to fight on the sea-ocean.
      1. teron
        teron 13 October 2015 12: 02
        +1
        This is on the one hand. And on the other - how to justify considerable defense expenditures with a 900 ton ship? We need to think wider.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2015 10: 46
    +1
    the use of “Buyans” allows you to achieve even greater efficiency than that which the United States seeks.

    The United States, with its desire for scale and size (so that everyone can see what has been done in the United States) and overestimated self-conceit, had previously considered (represented in the media) Russia a regional power that had little to do with the world arena. Well, they waited until they were lowered from heaven to earth in front of the whole world. And it's not just about "Calibers".
  19. shturman112
    shturman112 13 October 2015 10: 46
    0
    There is one nuance here. From open sources, the length of the Caliber rocket is two meters longer than the ax. The declared range of the Tomogavka is 2,5 thousand km. I do not think that ours are much stupider than the ones. Draw your own conclusions.
  20. pvv113
    pvv113 13 October 2015 10: 56
    +4
    From the Black and Caspian Seas, the "caliber" covers the territories of Europe, the Mediterranean Sea and the Middle East almost completely
    http://zagopod.com/blog/43420991809/Realnaya-zona-pokryitiya-kryilatyimi-raketam
    i-Kalibr-NK
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 13 October 2015 11: 04
      +3
      And from the Baltic, you can reach London and Paris.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 13 October 2015 12: 52
        +3
        You cannot reach London and Paris from the Baltic, the range is excessive, they fly over.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 13 October 2015 12: 23
      0
      Quote: pvv113
      From the Black and Caspian Seas, the "caliber" covers the territories of Europe, the Mediterranean Sea and the Middle East almost completely

      the circles are a little incorrectly outlined - imagine not from the middle of the reservoir, but from any edge, or with the entry into the flowing rivers! another calico comes out ... wink
  21. papont64
    papont64 13 October 2015 11: 08
    +1
    4 calibers are easily packed in a 20-foot container, target designation and guidance station in one more. And that 2 containers with calibers and 1 with a control unit, and any container ship, train, container platform, car platform turns into horror for NATO ...)))
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 13 October 2015 11: 59
      0
      What about the power supply? This is like another, separate container.
  22. Edvid
    Edvid 13 October 2015 11: 08
    +2
    In an interview with Solovyov on October 7, President V. V. Putin said that Russia, on the analogue of the "caliber", has systems with a range of 4500 km.
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 13 October 2015 11: 56
      0
      As I understand it, they meant x-101/102, maybe even sea-based, because Aviation-based have a range of 5500+.
  23. skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 13 October 2015 11: 18
    0
    Quote: chikenous59
    We do not have as much money as the United States, so we have the savvy!

    the United States has even less money, only debts and candy wrappers, very soon aircraft carriers will begin to cut into scrap metal ...
  24. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 11: 19
    0
    Quote: mpzss

    1-how so the USA, with their "vaunted" intelligence, slept through SUCH capabilities of the "Caliber" ?;
    2-what are they up to us in return !?

    What makes you think that you overslept? They are well aware of this, especially since we have been carrying these missiles to exhibitions since 1993. To calculate the maximum possible range - it’s not good news what task. so they are very knowledgeable in the performance characteristics of our rocket options
    They simply did not expect that ours would use them from the Caspian in Syria.

    What are they up to? Wait and see. The next version of the ALCM DB, as an example. Made with stealth technology
  25. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 11: 25
    0
    Quote: teron
    They won’t succeed. And not because they don’t know how to do it, but because there is a lot of money. Therefore, they will have such ships with a displacement of 4000 tons. And cost accordingly.

    And what can a 900-ton ship do in the Atlantic or the Pacific? Their "littoral" ships are actually intended for operations in the ocean, hence the displacement ...
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  27. press officer
    press officer 13 October 2015 11: 34
    +1
    Quote: mpzss
    I am interested in two things:
    1-how so the USA, with their "vaunted" intelligence, slept through SUCH capabilities of the "Caliber" ?;
    2-what are they up to us in return !?



    Answer: 1. So their entire intelligence works only in Hollywood! And Bruce was apparently on vacation at this time .. belay
    2. will come up with ... NEW SANCTIONS! NATO has already announced this ... What else can they? There are weapons, but only all of the fabulous laser from the "star warriors" .. laughing

    3. Russians are not victorious! drinks good soldier
  28. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 11: 34
    0
    Quote: Edvid
    In an interview with Solovyov on October 7, President V. V. Putin said that Russia, on the analogue of the "caliber", has systems with a range of 4500 km.

    About already on the analogue of "Caliber" ??? Well, the range of this missile is growing rapidly. And whatever, whoever says - everything at once "by the ears" became famous at once "Caliber".
    Dear Edvid! The President spoke about completely different missiles, air-launched missiles, which are superior in length and caliber to the "caliber". And they have a different index, and another KB did ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 October 2015 13: 46
      +1
      Hello Volodya! That's where the Meteorite would come in handy. I looked specifically at the characteristics. Both the air and ground versions were actually ready for production. And yet, the correct observation is that, at the Pacific Fleet, large ships are needed. 900-toners simply have nothing to do in the ocean. Here, larger ships are needed. I don’t understand why ours are so eager for the Atlantic? After all, the East Coast is much closer to the Far East and Pacific Fleet. I think in vain so little attention is paid to this region.
  29. Proud.
    Proud. 13 October 2015 11: 41
    +1
    "... the United States is working on this concept, but the Russian Federation has demonstrated a ready-made implementation ..."- Key phrase. "... the use of Buyans makes it possible to achieve even greater efficiency than that which the United States is striving for ..."- The result.
  30. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 13 October 2015 11: 45
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    Quote: mpzss
    I am interested in two things:
    1-how so the USA, with their "vaunted" intelligence, slept through SUCH capabilities of the "Caliber" ?;
    2-what are they up to us in return !?

    What they are up to - a suitcase, a train station, New York from the Middle East.
  31. roskot
    roskot 13 October 2015 11: 55
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    The Russians are invincible.
  32. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 13 October 2015 11: 59
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    Of course, it does matter. Only on all of our marine carriers, there are fewer missiles than the same on one American destroyer, and there are 64 of them.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 13 October 2015 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Only on all marine carriers we have fewer missiles than the same on one American destroyer

      Everything has its time. And the construction of our Armed Forces is not created by magic. The main thing - do not stand still!
  33. Mestny
    Mestny 13 October 2015 12: 07
    -1
    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    If only for the "half plundered" they planted ... at least!

    Honestly, if they created super-wunderwaffles, one could forgive theft. Let be.
    You just work, guys, and boots and fat to you without an account.
  34. linadherent
    linadherent 13 October 2015 12: 29
    +1
    We built, built and finally built ... Set fire to mahmut... Or rather: "Sergey, launch it" !!! soldier lol
  35. bmv04636
    bmv04636 13 October 2015 12: 39
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    Interestingly Buyan-M on our rivers (Volga, Kama) and reservoirs can walk?
    1. ism_ek
      ism_ek 13 October 2015 13: 59
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      They were built in Tatarstan ....
  36. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 13 October 2015 12: 57
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    Quote: kod3001
    You just found out that the Russians are such inventors that you want to make an effective weapon, even a stick! wink
  37. March
    March 13 October 2015 13: 00
    +1
    Balu495 :) made fun of :)
    Or maybe it was?
  38. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2015 15: 37
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    Quote: bmv04636
    Interestingly Buyan-M on our rivers (Volga, Kama) and reservoirs can walk?

    These are ships of the "river-sea" class
  39. mamont5
    mamont5 13 October 2015 16: 44
    +1
    Quote: Sid.74
    Khe ... it was thought. The Americans with Caspian constantly have some kind of shocks. Caspian monster, Caspian volley of calibers, and then .... volley of calibers from Caspian monsters ... only from small and nimble that you can get as much as hell! wassat

    But when these boats arrived in the Caspian at the forum there were disputes - why such a powerful weapon on such a limited theater of operations as the Caspian. Now they have shown to the whole world WHY.
  40. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 14 October 2015 20: 52
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    Quote: Sid.74
    Khe ... it was thought. The Americans with Caspian constantly have some kind of shocks. Caspian monster, Caspian volley of calibers, and then .... volley of calibers from Caspian monsters ... only from small and nimble that you can get as much as hell! wassat


    In the event of a fight, to make it completely simpler - one "Buyan-M" - a pair of AUG (if the warhead is nuclear), such a sickly "NK calibration". Really the CIA did not taste the topic on time ??? Where were their eyes and ears? Or are they suckers?