Who our missiles hit in Syria: who screams, hurts

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If we proceed from the speed with which the United States and NATO responded to the Russian airstrikes on the positions of the IG, the conclusion is that the strike goal was achieved instantly (even before the damage assessment among the militants). And judging by the semantic content of criticism of Russia, the geography of its sources, the volume of fakes and newspaper ducks, it turns out that this goal is far beyond the borders of Syria.

From the moment of the first strikes in public space, there was a discussion about the meaning and necessity of this operation. Questions and warnings sound very different. Whether Russia will be drawn into a ground operation, whether Syria will become a new Afghanistan for Russia, what will happen if Russia starts to suffer losses, does this operation strengthen the security of the country.

The composition of the moderate and unlimited opposition to Bashar Assad is thoroughly analyzed. The names of numerous terrorist (and not so) groups with a full layout by the number of fighters and weapons sound. Military experts are thinking about the impossibility of defeating the Islamic state with the help of some air strikes.

Questions are certainly important, worthy reflections, and serious warnings. However, in the heat of the controversy, the main question remained: what did Russia want to achieve by entering into military operations on the territory of Syria.

Decisions of this level are not made on the basis of, but “what can happen if ...”. Such questions are just subject to further discussion. The main motive for making turning decisions is always inevitability - the need to prevent an unfavorable scenario.

This does not mean at all that decisions of this kind are spontaneous. On the contrary, they are always inscribed on the global agenda, and they are a situational reaction to exacerbated global challenges, but they are prepared carefully and in advance.

If you look at events from this point of view, it becomes obvious that the threat of terrorism cannot be the cause of airstrikes. At least from those considerations that global terrorism has existed for 15 years, and during this time, Russia has never entered into hostilities with terrorists beyond its borders.

The gas implication cannot fully be such a cause. It certainly exists, but again it has already existed 4 of the year, since the signing of the Tripartite Memorandum between Iran, Iraq and Syria on the construction of a gas pipeline to the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. The memorandum was signed on 25 on June 2011 of the year, after which the US began to arm the moderate Syrian opposition and a civil war began.

The most logical is the assumption that the reason was the desire to preserve statehood as such in Syria. Especially when you consider that, in addition to air strikes, Russia also increased the supply of weapons to Syrian government troops. In addition, the United States directly calls this reason the purpose of Russia's intervention in the fighting. The United States in this situation acts as a victim, which means that they have more faith. True, Washington at the same time personifies the statehood of Syria in the personality of Assad, which is the first sign of manipulation.

Syrian President today represents the only structural force that opposes the jihadists, and he also acts as a guarantor of the observance of the memorandum on the construction of the gas pipeline. And the fact that his name is Bashar Asad is tenth. The Russian Foreign Ministry, by the way, defends precisely this (structural) position. However, it does not mention at the same time about the gas context, which would be strange.

The confrontation (under the guise of democratization) of the new global law and order and national jurisdictions is indeed the basis of the global conflict. A volley of cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea was another clue as to the reasons and reasons for Russia's entry into hostilities in Syria.

Observers and experts quickly responded to the hint, and the theme of the changed configuration of the entire world security system was articulated in public space. Military analysts took the compasses in their hands and began to draw circles on the map, denoting where the “hand of Moscow” could now reach.

Everything is just like that. Russia really broke the familiar picture of NATO military superiority in the world theater of possible hostilities. But even this conclusion does not describe the entire depth of tectonic shifts in the system of world security.

In order to appreciate the significance of the Russian air strikes and the Caspian salvo, one must understand that power superiority is not an end in itself, and security issues are inseparable from the issues of the political and economic structure of the world.

The USA explain their right to democratization by the presence of a certain universal formula (matrix) of prosperity and prosperity. Allegedly, any society can be immersed in this matrix regardless of the value bases, and this society will instantly become rich and happy. However, the matrix without its carriers does not exist, and any macromanagement (formation of trends) requires a police apparatus.

All this construction ideologically rests on the premise that the laws of the market are unconditional and in no way connected with the ideas of good, evil and justice. The statement itself is controversial. But even agreeing with him, it should be recognized that in addition to the laws of the market, there is criminal, customs and tax legislation, which does not work without a coercive apparatus.

Simply put, whoever maintains order distributes cumulative profits. The thesis of the US on the universality of the laws of the market (the so-called “de-ideologized ideology”) actually hides the proposals of themselves as the main regulator of the world economy, or rather, confirming the status of the main regulator. And each bombardment by the NATO forces of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya or Syria is only an assignment of this status to Washington.

By the way, in the legislation of all countries of the world the priority of international legal norms over national ones is fixed. All countries except the United States, whose national legislation claims to be extraterritorial.

No doubt. A single market requires uniform rules. The only question is who will set these rules and control their implementation, the UN or the US? The right to use force will be formed inclusively (I apologize for the fashionable term) or alone?

These questions were central to the last UN General Assembly. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping talked about the need for common efforts. Barack Obama talked about the US exclusive right to use force, and he had every reason to.

Russian precision strikes weapons on the positions of the Islamic state in Syria and the Caspian volley deprived Washington of the grounds not only to talk about the exclusivity of their rights to use force, but also of the exclusive. Exclusive on establishing common world rules.
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  1. +16
    October 13 2015
    The calibers hit many Faberge. The Americans quickly removed their aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf on a plausible pretext.
    1. +23
      October 13 2015
      global terrorism has existed for 15 years, and during this time Russia has never entered into hostilities with terrorists outside its borders

      The best defense is an attack ... Stop fighting on your territory ... So that trouble doesn’t come to our house, you need to lock her in her house ... Let her have domestic problems ... And we must create these problems for her.
      1. +14
        October 13 2015
        Quote from the article
        Behind the US thesis on the universality of market laws (the so-called "De-ideologized ideology") actually hiding offers in the role of the main regulator of the global economy, rather, confirmation of the status of the main regulator. Simply put, whoever provides order distributes total profit.
        And every NATO bombardment of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya or Syria is just a consolidation of this status for Washington.
        Russian air strikes precision weapons on the positions of the Islamic state in Syria and the Caspian volley deprived Washington of bases not only talk about the exclusivity of their rights to use force, but also the exclusivity itself. Exclusive on the establishment of general global rules.

        Article everything is said not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
        This is magnificent - well, just a workshop (!) - the author’s analytical article!
        Moreover, the brevity of this article is a sign that the author has great talent! drinks
    2. +4
      October 13 2015
      Quote: oleg-gr
      The calibers hit many Faberge.

      For those who had no brains))) the others screaming, judging by the intonation, hit the cerebellum with fragments)))
      1. +7
        October 13 2015
        Obama spoke of the exclusive right of the United States to use force, and he had every reason for it.

        Just a moment. The author, and why did you get the idea that he had reason for this? Well, the United States had that right, it's all their sick fantasies.
        1. +6
          October 13 2015
          This is from the point of view of Obama, not international law.
        2. +4
          October 13 2015
          + This is exactly how "soft power" manifests itself in the information war. Everything seems to be correct, and then bam, get a fly in the ointment on a barrel of honey! Let's think that it came out unintentionally, a typo or a torn out context.
    3. KAV
      +3
      October 13 2015
      The calibers hit many Faberge.

      But, just not according to the "Faberge" of our "brothers" ... winked They are all in the fog of the intoxicating belief of their own power. wassat
    4. KAV
      +3
      October 14 2015
      Another plus is an eclipse of the brain. laughing
    5. 0
      October 14 2015
      About how you manage to hit the "Faberge" and not only.

      How IS militants are scanned from the air: the IL-20 riddle plane in Syria.
      http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201510140813-h80f.htm
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    1. +3
      October 13 2015
      Russia has never entered into hostilities with terrorists outside its borders.

      Enough of our borders was enough for us!
      Greed is a terrible vice! laughing
      1. +4
        October 13 2015
        In short, our experts and political scientists have put everything on the shelves for understanding by all of our all sorts of different "partners"!))) They chewed and put them in their mouths. It remains only to swallow and not choke.))) And, previously, the hint was understood, and the American strike aircraft carrier proceeded, out of harm's way (and that's right!) On other matters and to another place. True, they promised to return, but, as he said Comrade Sukhov: "This is hardly ..."
  3. +6
    October 13 2015
    Putin’s game is very unpredictable for the West and very complex, it’s a mixture of chess and poker ...
    1. +7
      October 13 2015
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      Putin’s game is very unpredictable for the West and very complex, it’s a mixture of chess and poker ...

      Putin's game is unpredictable not only for the West, but also for the citizens of Russia, including the so-called "elites". Is it good or bad? Of course, it is good if it benefits the state, and not only oil and gas TNCs.
  4. +14
    October 13 2015
    If you look at events from this point of view, it becomes obvious that the threat of terrorism cannot be the cause of airstrikes.

    How is the threat of terrorism not the reason for our actions in Syria? Do away with Syria and Iran, redirect hordes to Russia and the SA. Putin said everything frankly.
  5. +12
    October 13 2015
    Resetting the European missile defense ... satisfied .. and not only missile defense ... !!!
    1. +3
      October 13 2015
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      Resetting the European missile defense ... satisfied .. and not only missile defense ... !!!

      Euro missile defense as such, as it was "0" 100 years ago, has remained the same, and the most important thing will never be anything else, unless of course we consider that it is still only a missile defense system, and not an advanced strike complex, but in this case there is more efficient surgical instrument of the Iskander M type;)
  6. +2
    October 13 2015
    As not an expert in missile matters, I wonder why the all-seeing missile defense systems didn't shoot down our "Calibers" ?! Or is it some kind of electoral system ?! No sarcasm, explain! hi
    1. +6
      October 13 2015
      First, "zhahnuli" from there from where no one expected. Secondly, the nearest missile defense "patriots" are in Turkey, and the "calibers" flew through the territory of Iran and Iraq, perhaps the launches were made when there were no satellites over the Caspian Sea, but this is unlikely, rather, the "mattress makers" did not attach importance to the flares. That's probably something like that ...
    2. 0
      October 13 2015
      Because their air defenses against our missiles are blind and defenseless. And all their "invisible" are made with the aim of making invisible the huge amount of money spent on them. In turn, our even outdated air defense systems perfectly detect everything flying with the NATO badge. That is why it tears them up with anger, hearings in Congress break many lives and profits.
  7. +8
    October 13 2015
    RUSSIA declares its right as a world power. That it is no longer ready to block, the US Security Council has different initiatives. But it shows its muscles. Before you do any kind of revolution, you need to think about it and ask the beam WHAT RUSSIA IS THINKING ABOUT . Bravo to the power block of RUSSIA, professionals. Volodya keep it up.

    But the economic bloc, followed by learn from the military pile work to do.
    1. +5
      October 13 2015
      This "our" economic bloc is doing its job well. Only this work is not for us, not for Russia, but for the world government.
  8. +3
    October 13 2015
    In the legislation of all countries of the world, the priority of international law over national is fixed.

    Not just in legislation, but in the Constitution, the most important document. If things go on like this, then the "civilized world" can push through anything in the international legal field, and they will be forced to do it.
  9. +1
    October 13 2015
    -Who have something to hurt, then talk about that! laughing
  10. +1
    October 13 2015
    What a nice accurate, direct headline! He - like the work of the videoconferencing and CF - shot exactly where they are most afraid of it. ISIS are we all withtrampled (all or one Russia, then we'll figure it out), but more priority goals we have only sight! (Here’s a verse, it’s just right for any general! Although no, it’s better for a journalist by the level of a joke)
  11. +6
    October 13 2015
    Whoever rubs about exclusivity, the whole world is waiting with a locked heart for what Putin will say.
  12. +5
    October 13 2015
    When one compares Afghanistan and Syria, it is probably not entirely correct. In Afghanistan, the ultimate goal was to establish a "communist" regime; in Syria, the task is different. And even though Putin is a "celestial", he keeps his hand on the pulse like any "GBeshnik". Compare him with the sick and old L.I. Brezhnev is not worth it. Our task in Syria, in my opinion, is to weaken ISIS, to lower it below the plinth. To show in practice what our Armed Forces are capable of, it is one thing "war 8.8.8", and another thing the Middle East and the Kyrgyz Republic with a range of destruction of 1500 km (and maybe more). Get experience using weapons in a BU. The timing of the operation is determined by the ability of our economy to withstand pressure from outside. In the end, we end up with refrigerators there and don't send the rest of the "little thing", I hope ....
    1. 0
      October 13 2015
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      In Afghanistan, the ultimate goal was to establish a "communist" regime

      nonsense. There has never been such a goal.
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      in Syria, the task is different

      which "other"? Exactly the same - a loyal regime.
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      Our task in Syria, in my opinion, is to weaken ISIS, to lower it below the baseboard.
      no, not like that. This is a struggle with the monarchies and the company for markets. In particular, for the European one.
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      another thing is the Middle East and the Kyrgyz Republic with a range of 1500 km
      Yes, yes, everyone was inspired by the Caspian salvo, of course. To believe that geopolitics rests on the performance characteristics of Caliber - I'm sorry, and Diotism.

      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      The timing of the operation is determined by the ability of our economy to withstand pressure from outside

      what are you talking about? If you associate the terms of a VKS group of 50 units in the Syrian theater with the possibilities of the economy, then things are bad.
    2. +3
      October 13 2015
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      KR with a range of 1500 km (or maybe more).



      Putin has already spoken about the KR with a range of 4500 km (true, the aircraft have YES) ... So who prevents our scientists and designers from "shamanizing" the calibers ???

      PS Once already podshamanili ... suddenly instead of a range of 300 km flew 1500 km ... and, as they say, this is not the limit ...
      1. 0
        October 13 2015
        Quote: veksha50
        Once already podshamanili ... suddenly instead of a range of 300 km flew 1500 km ... and, as they say, this is not the limit ..

        I don’t quite understand what I’m talking about.
        1. 0
          October 13 2015
          Quote: Das Boot
          I don’t quite understand what I’m talking about.



          I just had in mind that they were talking about a range of 300 km, and they launched one and a half thousand ...

          Podshamanit - does not necessarily mean a new super-item to do ...
  13. +2
    October 13 2015
    Wild ensign looked into the water - we wail, and more than once soldier
  14. +5
    October 13 2015
    Evgeny Satanovsky (..part of the review ... completely here: http://news-front.info/2015/10/13/stingery-uzhe-v-sirii-evgenij-satanovskij/)

    Anyway, the parliamentary elections in Turkey are approaching and the further strategy of Erdogan in the Syrian direction largely depends on their results. In the meantime, judging by the latest information, field commanders fighting against Assad in Syria have received consent from the curators in Riyadh and Doha to supply the latest generation of MANPADS to them. Among the main recipients are the detachments “Jabhat al-Nusra”, “Ahrar al-Sham” and the remnants of the Syrian Free Army (FSA), based in southern Syria - in the area of ​​Hama and Homs. The operational units of the General Intelligence Agency (RBD) KSA will take over the supply and supply of MANPADS, and the operatives of the Turkish MIT special services will transfer the MANPADS from Turkey to the north of Syria. They will be engaged in the study of the technical and logistical aspects of these operations.

    The question of Jordan’s position remains open. The initial consultations of the Saudis in Amman did not lead to a positive result for them. Amman is cautious about the prospect of turning Jordan into a rear base for the transfer of MANPADS systems to Syria, believing that this could lead to the spread of violence to the territory of the kingdom. Moreover, the local population is not too loyal to the royal power, sympathizing with the IG. According to experts, the supply of MANPADS, if the Americans close their eyes to them, will restore the balance of power on the fronts.

    Western analysts also point out that the airstrikes of Russian aviation in Syria are the preparation of a ground operation of government forces, Iranians, Iraqi and Lebanese Shiite militias. Detachments of Afghan Hazaras will be thrown into battle, who will begin to clean up the liberated areas and stand in them by garrisons and roadblocks. Three possible directions of the upcoming offensive: north of Homs, the Al-Gab area and mountainous areas north-west of Hama, as well as the Air Force "Kveyris", which is blocked by Islamists. Surrounding militants in the “Homsky pocket” eliminates the threat of their attack on Homs and Ham. Through the Al-Gab area, the army enters the operational space for the liberation of the city of Jisr al-Shugur, which is the gateway to Latakia, which removes the threat of an Islamist offensive from the idlib bridgehead. Fighting for the Air Force base "Kveyris" is of great importance for raising the morale of the Assad army.

    Consultations of the Kurdish militia command in Damascus about supporting their actions against the IG by Russian aviation give additional impetus to the US in a short time to organize an attack on Raqa by the forces of the 20 of the thousandth Kurdish militia and the five thousand Turkoman police. This allows Russia to use the hands of the United States to undermine the IG’s position in Syria, at the same time complicating Washington’s relations with Ankara. Moreover, if the States close their eyes to delivering MANPADS to Islamists through Turkey, and information about the indirect participation of American security forces or their inaction is leaked to the media, the damage caused to the Democratic Party and its candidates by the start of the election campaign will be great. That for President B. Obama is quite important.
  15. +2
    October 13 2015
    By the way, in the legislation of all countries of the world the priority of international legal norms over national is fixed. All countries except the USA ..


    It’s time for us to tie this up, especially against the backdrop of
    ... of all countries except the United States, whose national law claims extraterritoriality.
  16. +2
    October 13 2015
    It is not clear whether in whom? Whoever screams the loudest, got into that one.
    1. +6
      October 13 2015
      Absolutely right! In Syria, defenseless American children die under Russian bombs and missiles ...
  17. +2
    October 13 2015
    "By the way, In the legislation of all countries of the world, the priority of international law over national is fixed. All countries except the USAwhose national legislation claims to be extraterritorial "...

    Who would be surprised ...

    It’s high time to burn this shameful article from the Constitution with a hot iron ... The interests and the right of no state should prevail over the interests of Russia ...

    And what about the "Caspian strike" that tickled the nerves of the West ... Who is there - Kerry or Carter - muttered about some Russian surface and underwater platforms ... So, without violating the Treaty (from which we still won't get out), it is necessary to place "Calibers" in the Peipsi and Ladoga lakes ... The radius of destruction will be decent, not only the Balts will have to "cough" there ...
    1. 0
      October 13 2015
      Quote: veksha50
      And about the "Caspian strike" that tickled the nerves of the West ...

      the man in the street was tickled. The Pentagon is generally aware of our potential. As we are aware of them. Populism is expensive. As a grill comrade. Suslov - we do not skimp on ideology. Rocket launchers are not a message to the Pentagon. And even more so not IGogoshkam. This is a message to us. For me - so after EBNovskogo stinking brothel with rectal abuse of the "once great" - just right. In the 15th century, China burned down the fleet and massacred sailors, abandoning its expansionist policies. Although, for a minute, I had tankers for fresh water, ocean barges for the cavalry, Ceylon nishtyaks, and so on. And by no means did he greet coaster adventurers like Columbo. So what? HRC for XNUMX+ years ...
  18. 0
    October 13 2015
    Squeak from impotent rage.
    1. 0
      October 13 2015
      Quote: cergey51046
      Squeak from impotent rage.

      More specifically, you can pro in the impotent rage of squeakers? This hto? Islamists? Americans?
  19. +1
    October 13 2015
    All 26 Caliber missiles hit the NATO point. NATO is now ready for larger caliber missiles ...
  20. 0
    October 13 2015
    and it’s clear to the fool that the missiles have reached the desired goal — the Americans have built bases for almost 3 years, brought in weapons and ammunition, and the Russians destroyed everything in two weeks
  21. 0
    October 13 2015
    Who is Assad’s enemy is our enemy. He invited us, his enemies must be beaten. They are ours by default.
  22. 0
    October 13 2015
    The SGA appropriated this right to itself by ruining the USSR with the help of traitors to the teachings of K. Marx and no one could squeak, especially Russia torn apart by EBN privatization. And only the coming to power of GDP and K allowed the Russian Federation to rise from its knees. The consistent policy of the reforms now allows the Russian Federation to limit the lawlessness of the SGA internationally, which is a signal to unite countries dissatisfied with such a policy of the MNC SGA, to create other economic and political unions, as opposed to those created and created under the flag of the SGA. hi
  23. 0
    October 13 2015
    Clear, capacious, understandable, concise and to the point. Bravo good !
    hi
  24. 0
    October 14 2015
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Sasha_Sar
    KR with a range of 1500 km (or maybe more).



    Putin has already spoken about the KR with a range of 4500 km (true, the aircraft have YES) ... So who prevents our scientists and designers from "shamanizing" the calibers ???

    PS Once already podshamanili ... suddenly instead of a range of 300 km flew 1500 km ... and, as they say, this is not the limit ...

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////
    It was already criticized here that it is impossible to hit a moving target (for example, an aircraft carrier) with a cruise missile at ranges of 1500, especially 3000 kilometers. Having some knowledge in this area, I note that there are over-the-horizon radars that confidently detect surface targets at a distance of 2000 km or more, which can, for example, through space, correct the flight of a rocket. Second, the obvious answer lies on the surface, if it is impossible to carry a charge and a radar on the "caliber", then you can remove the warhead (and this is several hundred kg) and install the necessary radar. The application is as follows: after detecting a moving target with long-range means, they release one leader missile with a radar and with a short interval a "flock" of missiles with warheads. A rocket with a radar near the target area begins to scan the sea and gives the specified target coordinates for the "flock", and then everything is clear ...
  25. 0
    October 14 2015
    Quote: Decathlon
    As not an expert in missile matters, I wonder why the all-seeing missile defense systems didn't shoot down our "Calibers" ?! Or is it some kind of electoral system ?! No sarcasm, explain! hi



    and here even to me as ... "not an expert" everything is clear as day! No sarcasm. They either do not work for them (as they said about it), or generally stupid Hollywood is pure water in all weapons and defense! Their tanks can be pierced, helicopters fall by themselves, their planes are shot down ... etc. etc... what In short ... after they could not provide the same data as we gave on the downed Boeing over Donetsk, I have vague doubts that they actually have at least something working there, because in fact, there are only bazaars! There are, of course, weapons, but either completely fig, or old stuff or "multimillion-dollar projects" where the grandmothers stole something, they showed something there, but it doesn't plow ... bully So, most likely they did not shoot down for this) Intelligence does not bother them, they probably eat their donuts and watch TV, about how "exceptional" they are. drinks good
  26. 0
    October 14 2015
    and you don’t have to doubt, everything is thought out, balanced, everything according to the protocol, everything is under control, like that, Yankees, you need to prepare a war if you decide to declare it, otherwise you should not shake the air, blow your cheeks and blow bubbles, that's all in an adult way, in war, as in war ...

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