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Who our missiles hit in Syria: who screams, hurts

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If we proceed from the speed with which the United States and NATO responded to the Russian airstrikes on the positions of the IG, the conclusion is that the strike goal was achieved instantly (even before the damage assessment among the militants). And judging by the semantic content of criticism of Russia, the geography of its sources, the volume of fakes and newspaper ducks, it turns out that this goal is far beyond the borders of Syria.

From the moment of the first strikes in public space, there was a discussion about the meaning and necessity of this operation. Questions and warnings sound very different. Whether Russia will be drawn into a ground operation, whether Syria will become a new Afghanistan for Russia, what will happen if Russia starts to suffer losses, does this operation strengthen the security of the country.

The composition of the moderate and unlimited opposition to Bashar Assad is thoroughly analyzed. The names of numerous terrorist (and not so) groups with a full layout by the number of fighters and weapons sound. Military experts are thinking about the impossibility of defeating the Islamic state with the help of some air strikes.

Questions are certainly important, worthy reflections, and serious warnings. However, in the heat of the controversy, the main question remained: what did Russia want to achieve by entering into military operations on the territory of Syria.

Decisions of this level are not made on the basis of, but “what can happen if ...”. Such questions are just subject to further discussion. The main motive for making turning decisions is always inevitability - the need to prevent an unfavorable scenario.

This does not mean at all that decisions of this kind are spontaneous. On the contrary, they are always inscribed on the global agenda, and they are a situational reaction to exacerbated global challenges, but they are prepared carefully and in advance.

If you look at events from this point of view, it becomes obvious that the threat of terrorism cannot be the cause of airstrikes. At least from those considerations that global terrorism has existed for 15 years, and during this time, Russia has never entered into hostilities with terrorists beyond its borders.

The gas implication cannot fully be such a cause. It certainly exists, but again it has already existed 4 of the year, since the signing of the Tripartite Memorandum between Iran, Iraq and Syria on the construction of a gas pipeline to the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. The memorandum was signed on 25 on June 2011 of the year, after which the US began to arm the moderate Syrian opposition and a civil war began.

The most logical is the assumption that the reason was the desire to preserve statehood as such in Syria. Especially when you consider that, in addition to air strikes, Russia also increased the supply of weapons to Syrian government troops. In addition, the United States directly calls this reason the purpose of Russia's intervention in the fighting. The United States in this situation acts as a victim, which means that they have more faith. True, Washington at the same time personifies the statehood of Syria in the personality of Assad, which is the first sign of manipulation.

Syrian President today represents the only structural force that opposes the jihadists, and he also acts as a guarantor of the observance of the memorandum on the construction of the gas pipeline. And the fact that his name is Bashar Asad is tenth. The Russian Foreign Ministry, by the way, defends precisely this (structural) position. However, it does not mention at the same time about the gas context, which would be strange.

The confrontation (under the guise of democratization) of the new global law and order and national jurisdictions is indeed the basis of the global conflict. A volley of cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea was another clue as to the reasons and reasons for Russia's entry into hostilities in Syria.

Observers and experts quickly responded to the hint, and the theme of the changed configuration of the entire world security system was articulated in public space. Military analysts took the compasses in their hands and began to draw circles on the map, denoting where the “hand of Moscow” could now reach.

Everything is just like that. Russia really broke the familiar picture of NATO military superiority in the world theater of possible hostilities. But even this conclusion does not describe the entire depth of tectonic shifts in the system of world security.

In order to appreciate the significance of the Russian air strikes and the Caspian salvo, one must understand that power superiority is not an end in itself, and security issues are inseparable from the issues of the political and economic structure of the world.

The USA explain their right to democratization by the presence of a certain universal formula (matrix) of prosperity and prosperity. Allegedly, any society can be immersed in this matrix regardless of the value bases, and this society will instantly become rich and happy. However, the matrix without its carriers does not exist, and any macromanagement (formation of trends) requires a police apparatus.

All this construction ideologically rests on the premise that the laws of the market are unconditional and in no way connected with the ideas of good, evil and justice. The statement itself is controversial. But even agreeing with him, it should be recognized that in addition to the laws of the market, there is criminal, customs and tax legislation, which does not work without a coercive apparatus.

Simply put, whoever maintains order distributes cumulative profits. The thesis of the US on the universality of the laws of the market (the so-called “de-ideologized ideology”) actually hides the proposals of themselves as the main regulator of the world economy, or rather, confirming the status of the main regulator. And each bombardment by the NATO forces of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya or Syria is only an assignment of this status to Washington.

By the way, in the legislation of all countries of the world the priority of international legal norms over national ones is fixed. All countries except the United States, whose national legislation claims to be extraterritorial.

No doubt. A single market requires uniform rules. The only question is who will set these rules and control their implementation, the UN or the US? The right to use force will be formed inclusively (I apologize for the fashionable term) or alone?

These questions were central to the last UN General Assembly. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping talked about the need for common efforts. Barack Obama talked about the US exclusive right to use force, and he had every reason to.

Russian precision strikes weapons on the positions of the Islamic state in Syria and the Caspian volley deprived Washington of the grounds not only to talk about the exclusivity of their rights to use force, but also of the exclusive. Exclusive on establishing common world rules.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 13 October 2015 14: 53 New
    16
    Калибры ударили по "фаберже" многих. Быстро америкосы убрали свой авианосец из Персицкого залива под благовидным предлогом.
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 13 October 2015 14: 54 New
      23
      global terrorism has existed for 15 years, and during this time Russia has never entered into hostilities with terrorists outside its borders

      The best defense is an attack ... Stop fighting on your territory ... So that trouble doesn’t come to our house, you need to lock her in her house ... Let her have domestic problems ... And we must create these problems for her.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 13 October 2015 16: 05 New
        14
        Quote from the article
        Behind the US thesis on the universality of market laws (the so-called "De-ideologized ideology") actually hiding offers in the role of the main regulator of the global economy, rather, confirmation of the status of the main regulator. Simply put, whoever provides order distributes total profit.
        And every NATO bombardment of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya or Syria is just a consolidation of this status for Washington.
        Russian air strikes precision weapons on the positions of the Islamic state in Syria and the Caspian volley deprived Washington of bases not only talk about the exclusivity of their rights to use force, but also the exclusivity itself. Exclusive on the establishment of general global rules.

        Article everything is said not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
        This is magnificent - well, just a workshop (!) - the author’s analytical article!
        Moreover, the brevity of this article is a sign that the author has great talent! drinks
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 13 October 2015 15: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Калибры ударили по "фаберже" многих.

      For those who had no brains))) the others screaming, judging by the intonation, hit the cerebellum with fragments)))
      1. Vend
        Vend 13 October 2015 15: 23 New
        +7
        Obama spoke of the exclusive right of the United States to use force, and he had every reason for it.

        Just a moment. The author, and why did you get the idea that he had reason for this? Well, the United States had that right, it's all their sick fantasies.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 13 October 2015 15: 54 New
          +6
          This is from the point of view of Obama, not international law.
        2. VadimSt
          VadimSt 13 October 2015 15: 57 New
          +4
          + Именно так и проявляется "мягкая сила" в информационной войне. Все вроде правильно, а потом бац, получите ложку дегтя на бочку меда! Будем думать, что это вышло неумышленно, опечатка или вырванный контекст.
    3. KAV
      KAV 13 October 2015 23: 36 New
      +3
      Калибры ударили по "фаберже" многих.

      Но, только не по "фаберже" наших "братьев"... winked They are all in the fog of the intoxicating belief of their own power. wassat
    4. KAV
      KAV 14 October 2015 00: 41 New
      +3
      Another plus is an eclipse of the brain. laughing
    5. Buffalo
      Buffalo 14 October 2015 14: 10 New
      0
      О том, как удаётся попадать по "фаберже" и не только.

      How IS militants are scanned from the air: the IL-20 riddle plane in Syria.
      http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201510140813-h80f.htm
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    1. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 13 October 2015 14: 56 New
      +3
      Russia has never entered into hostilities with terrorists outside its borders.

      Enough of our borders was enough for us!
      Greed is a terrible vice! laughing
      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 13 October 2015 18: 35 New
        +4
        Короче, наши эксперты и политологи всё по полочкам разложили для понимания всем нашим всяким-разным "партнёрам"!))) Разжевали и в рот положили. Осталось только проглотить и не подавиться.))) А, предварительно, намёк был понят, и американский ударный авианосец проследовал, от греха подальше (и ето правильно!)по другим делам и в другое место.Правда, обещали вернуться, но, как говорил товарищ Сухов:"Это вряд-ли..."
  3. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 13 October 2015 14: 54 New
    +6
    Putin’s game is very unpredictable for the West and very complex, it’s a mixture of chess and poker ...
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 13 October 2015 15: 09 New
      +7
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      Putin’s game is very unpredictable for the West and very complex, it’s a mixture of chess and poker ...

      Игра Путина непредсказуема не только для Запада, но и для граждан России, в том числе и так называемых "элит". Хорошо это или плохо? Конечно, хорошо, если идёт на пользу государству, а не только нефтегазовых ТНК.
  4. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 13 October 2015 14: 55 New
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    If you look at events from this point of view, it becomes obvious that the threat of terrorism cannot be the cause of airstrikes.

    How is the threat of terrorism not the reason for our actions in Syria? Do away with Syria and Iran, redirect hordes to Russia and the SA. Putin said everything frankly.
  5. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 13 October 2015 15: 03 New
    12
    Resetting the European missile defense ... satisfied .. and not only missile defense ... !!!
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 13 October 2015 15: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      Resetting the European missile defense ... satisfied .. and not only missile defense ... !!!

      Евро ПРО как таковое, как было "0" лет 100 тому назад, так осталось и самое главное никогда не будет чем-то иным, если конечно считать что это все таки только ПРО, а не передовой ударный комплекс, но на этот случай есть и более оперативный херургический инструмент типа Искандер М;)
  6. Decathlon
    Decathlon 13 October 2015 15: 07 New
    +2
    Мне, как не специалисту в делах ракетных, интересно: а почему всевидящие системы ПРО не сбили наши "Калибры"?! Или, это какие-то избирательные системы?! Без сарказма, поясните! hi
    1. Sasha_Sar
      Sasha_Sar 13 October 2015 15: 41 New
      +6
      Во-первых "жахнули" от туда от куда ни кто не ждал. Во-вторых ближайшая ПРО "пэтриоты" стоят в Турции, а "калибры" летели по территории Ирана и Ирака, возможно пуски произвели, когда не было спутников над Каспием, но это мало вероятно, скорее просто "матрасники" не придали значение вспышкам. Вот наверно как то-так...
    2. Foresterer
      Foresterer 13 October 2015 21: 04 New
      0
      Потому-что слепы и беззащитны их ПВО против наших ракет. А все их "невидимки" сделаны с целью сделать невидимыми огромные деньги, которые на них потрачены. В свою очередь наши даже устаревшие ПВО прекрасно засекают всё летающее со значком НАТО. Вот поэтому и рвёт их от злости, слушания в Конгрессе многим жизнь и прибыль ломают.
  7. Douglas
    Douglas 13 October 2015 15: 11 New
    +8
    RUSSIA declares its right as a world power. That it is no longer ready to block, the US Security Council has different initiatives. But it shows its muscles. Before you do any kind of revolution, you need to think about it and ask the beam WHAT RUSSIA IS THINKING ABOUT . Bravo to the power block of RUSSIA, professionals. Volodya keep it up.

    But the economic bloc, followed by learn from the military pile work to do.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 13 October 2015 15: 57 New
      +5
      Этот "наш" экономический блок, как раз, свою работу хорошо делает. Только эта работа не на нас, не на России, а на мировое правительство.
  8. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 13 October 2015 15: 13 New
    +3
    In the legislation of all countries of the world, the priority of international law over national is fixed.

    Не просто в законодательстве, а в Конституции, главнейшем документе. Если так дело дальше пойдёт, то "цивилизованный мир" может протащить в международном правовом поле всё что угодно, и выполнять заставят.
  9. Buffalo
    Buffalo 13 October 2015 15: 13 New
    +1
    -Who have something to hurt, then talk about that! laughing
  10. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 13 October 2015 15: 15 New
    +1
    What a nice accurate, direct headline! He - like the work of the videoconferencing and CF - shot exactly where they are most afraid of it. ISIS are we all withtrampled (all or one Russia, then we'll figure it out), but more priority goals we have only sight! (Here’s a verse, it’s just right for any general! Although no, it’s better for a journalist by the level of a joke)
  11. fn111
    fn111 13 October 2015 15: 16 New
    +6
    Whoever rubs about exclusivity, the whole world is waiting with a locked heart for what Putin will say.
  12. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 13 October 2015 15: 20 New
    +5
    Когда сравнивают Афган и Сирию, наверно не вполне правильно. В Афгане конечной целью было установление "коммунистического" режима, в Сирии задача стоит другая. Да и Путин хоть и "небожитель", но руку держит на пульсе как всякий "ГБешник". Сравнивать его с больным и старым Л.И. Брежневым не стоит. Наша задача в Сирии на мой взгляд, ослабить ИГИЛ, опустить его ниже плинтуса. Показать в деле на что способны наши ВС, одно дело "война 8.8.8", а другое дело Ближний Восток и КР с дальностью поражения 1500 км (а может быть и больше). Получить опыт применения оружием в БУ. Сроки проведения операции определяться способностью нашей экономики противостоять давлению из вне. В конце то концов, мы туда холодильники и остальную "мелочь" не отправляем, я надеюсь....
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 13 October 2015 15: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      В Афгане конечной целью было установление "коммунистического" режима

      nonsense. There has never been such a goal.
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      in Syria, the task is different

      какая "другая"? Ровно такая же - лояльный режим.
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      Our task in Syria, in my opinion, is to weaken ISIS, to lower it below the baseboard.
      no, not like that. This is a struggle with the monarchies and the company for markets. In particular, for the European one.
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      another thing is the Middle East and the Kyrgyz Republic with a range of 1500 km
      Yes, yes, everyone was inspired by the Caspian salvo, of course. To believe that geopolitics rests on the performance characteristics of Caliber - I'm sorry, and Diotism.

      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      The timing of the operation is determined by the ability of our economy to withstand pressure from outside

      what are you talking about? If you associate the terms of a VKS group of 50 units in the Syrian theater with the possibilities of the economy, then things are bad.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 13 October 2015 16: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      KR with a range of 1500 km (or maybe more).



      Путин уже говорил о КР с радиусом действия 4500 км (правда, у самолетов ДА)... Так кто мешает нашим ученым и конструкторам "подшаманить" калибры ???

      PS Once already podshamanili ... suddenly instead of a range of 300 km flew 1500 km ... and, as they say, this is not the limit ...
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 13 October 2015 16: 53 New
        0
        Quote: veksha50
        Once already podshamanili ... suddenly instead of a range of 300 km flew 1500 km ... and, as they say, this is not the limit ..

        I don’t quite understand what I’m talking about.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 13 October 2015 20: 52 New
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          Quote: Das Boot
          I don’t quite understand what I’m talking about.



          I just had in mind that they were talking about a range of 300 km, and they launched one and a half thousand ...

          Podshamanit - does not necessarily mean a new super-item to do ...
  13. Denis DV
    Denis DV 13 October 2015 15: 27 New
    +2
    Wild ensign looked into the water - we wail, and more than once soldier
  14. morozik
    morozik 13 October 2015 15: 40 New
    +5
    Evgeny Satanovsky (..part of the review ... completely here: http://news-front.info/2015/10/13/stingery-uzhe-v-sirii-evgenij-satanovskij/)

    Anyway, the parliamentary elections in Turkey are approaching and the further strategy of Erdogan in the Syrian direction largely depends on their results. In the meantime, judging by the latest information, field commanders fighting against Assad in Syria have received consent from the curators in Riyadh and Doha to supply the latest generation of MANPADS to them. Among the main recipients are the detachments “Jabhat al-Nusra”, “Ahrar al-Sham” and the remnants of the Syrian Free Army (FSA), based in southern Syria - in the area of ​​Hama and Homs. The operational units of the General Intelligence Agency (RBD) KSA will take over the supply and supply of MANPADS, and the operatives of the Turkish MIT special services will transfer the MANPADS from Turkey to the north of Syria. They will be engaged in the study of the technical and logistical aspects of these operations.

    The question of Jordan’s position remains open. The initial consultations of the Saudis in Amman did not lead to a positive result for them. Amman is cautious about the prospect of turning Jordan into a rear base for the transfer of MANPADS systems to Syria, believing that this could lead to the spread of violence to the territory of the kingdom. Moreover, the local population is not too loyal to the royal power, sympathizing with the IG. According to experts, the supply of MANPADS, if the Americans close their eyes to them, will restore the balance of power on the fronts.

    Western analysts also point out that the airstrikes of Russian aviation in Syria are the preparation of a ground operation of government forces, Iranians, Iraqi and Lebanese Shiite militias. Detachments of Afghan Hazaras will be thrown into battle, who will begin to clean up the liberated areas and stand in them by garrisons and roadblocks. Three possible directions of the upcoming offensive: north of Homs, the Al-Gab area and mountainous areas north-west of Hama, as well as the Air Force "Kveyris", which is blocked by Islamists. Surrounding militants in the “Homsky pocket” eliminates the threat of their attack on Homs and Ham. Through the Al-Gab area, the army enters the operational space for the liberation of the city of Jisr al-Shugur, which is the gateway to Latakia, which removes the threat of an Islamist offensive from the idlib bridgehead. Fighting for the Air Force base "Kveyris" is of great importance for raising the morale of the Assad army.

    Consultations of the Kurdish militia command in Damascus about supporting their actions against the IG by Russian aviation give additional impetus to the US in a short time to organize an attack on Raqa by the forces of the 20 of the thousandth Kurdish militia and the five thousand Turkoman police. This allows Russia to use the hands of the United States to undermine the IG’s position in Syria, at the same time complicating Washington’s relations with Ankara. Moreover, if the States close their eyes to delivering MANPADS to Islamists through Turkey, and information about the indirect participation of American security forces or their inaction is leaked to the media, the damage caused to the Democratic Party and its candidates by the start of the election campaign will be great. That for President B. Obama is quite important.
  15. NordUral
    NordUral 13 October 2015 15: 53 New
    +2
    By the way, in the legislation of all countries of the world the priority of international legal norms over national is fixed. All countries except the USA ..


    It’s time for us to tie this up, especially against the backdrop of
    ... of all countries except the United States, whose national law claims extraterritoriality.
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 13 October 2015 16: 03 New
    +2
    It is not clear whether in whom? Whoever screams the loudest, got into that one.
    1. Evil rabbit
      Evil rabbit 13 October 2015 17: 50 New
      +6
      Absolutely right! In Syria, defenseless American children die under Russian bombs and missiles ...
  17. veksha50
    veksha50 13 October 2015 16: 13 New
    +2
    "К слову, In the legislation of all countries of the world, the priority of international law over national is fixed. All countries except the USA, чьё национальное законодательство претендует на экстерриториальность"...

    Who would be surprised ...

    It’s high time to burn this shameful article from the Constitution with a hot iron ... The interests and the right of no state should prevail over the interests of Russia ...

    А насчет "каспийского удара", так пощекотавшего нервы западу... Кто там - Керри или Картер - бубнили о каких-то российских надводных и подводных платформах... Вот и без нарушения Договора (из которого мы все никак не выйдем) необходимо разместить "Калибры" в Чудском и Ладожском озерах... Радиус поражения приличный будет, там уж не только прибалтам "квохтать" придется...
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 13 October 2015 17: 34 New
      0
      Quote: veksha50
      А насчет "каспийского удара", так пощекотавшего нервы западу...

      обывателю пощекотали. Пентагон, в общем и целом, в курсе нашего потенциала. Как и мы в курсе их. Популизм - вещь дорогостоящая. Как грил тов. Суслов - на идеологии мы не экономим. Демонстрационные ракетопуски - это не Пентагону мессидж. И уж тем паче не ИГогошкам. Это нам посыл. По мне - так после ЕБНовского вонючего борделя с ректальными надруганиями над "некогда великой" - в самый раз. В 15-м веке Китай сжёг флот и вырезал моряков, отказавшись от политики экспансионизма. Хотя, на минуточку, имел танкеры для пресной воды,океанские баржи для конармий,ништяки цейлонские и проч. И отнюдь не приветсвовал каботажников -авантюристов типа Коломбо. И что? ПЦ на четыреста с гаком лет...
  18. cergey51046
    cergey51046 13 October 2015 16: 18 New
    0
    Squeak from impotent rage.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 13 October 2015 17: 12 New
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      Quote: cergey51046
      Squeak from impotent rage.

      More specifically, you can pro in the impotent rage of squeakers? This hto? Islamists? Americans?
  19. Straight
    Straight 13 October 2015 19: 55 New
    +1
    Все 26 ракет "Калибр" попали в натовское очко. Теперь нато готово для более крупного калибра ракет...
  20. chief.matros
    chief.matros 13 October 2015 20: 56 New
    0
    and it’s clear to the fool that the missiles have reached the desired goal — the Americans have built bases for almost 3 years, brought in weapons and ammunition, and the Russians destroyed everything in two weeks
  21. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 13 October 2015 21: 01 New
    0
    Who is Assad’s enemy is our enemy. He invited us, his enemies must be beaten. They are ours by default.
  22. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 13 October 2015 22: 17 New
    0
    The SGA appropriated this right to itself by ruining the USSR with the help of traitors to the teachings of K. Marx and no one could squeak, especially Russia torn apart by EBN privatization. And only the coming to power of GDP and K allowed the Russian Federation to rise from its knees. The consistent policy of the reforms now allows the Russian Federation to limit the lawlessness of the SGA internationally, which is a signal to unite countries dissatisfied with such a policy of the MNC SGA, to create other economic and political unions, as opposed to those created and created under the flag of the SGA. hi
  23. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 13 October 2015 22: 25 New
    0
    Clear, capacious, understandable, concise and to the point. Bravo good !
    hi
  24. Edvid
    Edvid 14 October 2015 05: 48 New
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    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Sasha_Sar
    KR with a range of 1500 km (or maybe more).



    Путин уже говорил о КР с радиусом действия 4500 км (правда, у самолетов ДА)... Так кто мешает нашим ученым и конструкторам "подшаманить" калибры ???

    PS Once already podshamanili ... suddenly instead of a range of 300 km flew 1500 km ... and, as they say, this is not the limit ...

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    Тут уже критиковали, что крылатой ракетой невозможно попасть в подвижную цель, (например, авианосец) на дальностях 1500, тем более - 3000 километров. Имея некоторые познания в этой области, замечу, что существуют загоризонтные РЛС, которые уверенно обнаруживают надводны цели на дистанции 2000 км и больше, которые могут, например через космос, корректировать полет ракеты. Второе, на поверхности лежит очевидный ответ, если на "калибре" невозможно нести заряд и РЛС, то можно убрать БЧ (а это несколько сот кг) и установить необходимую РЛС. Применение такое: обнаружив дальними средствами подвижную цель выпускают одну ракету-лидера с РЛС и с небольшим интервалом "стаю" ракет с боезарядами. Ракета с РЛС возле района цели начинает сканировать море и даёт уточнённые координаты цели для "стаи", а дальше всё понятно...
  25. press officer
    press officer 14 October 2015 07: 44 New
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    Мне, как не специалисту в делах ракетных, интересно: а почему всевидящие системы ПРО не сбили наши "Калибры"?! Или, это какие-то избирательные системы?! Без сарказма, поясните! hi



    а тут даже мне как ..."не специалисту" все ясно как день! Без сарказма. Они у них либо не работают (как то об этом говорили), либо вообще тупо Голливуд чистой воды по всему вооружению и оборонке! Танки их можно пробить, вертолеты падают сами, самолеты ихние сбивают... и т.д. и т.п... what Короче..после того как они не смогли предоставить такие же данные, какие дали мы по сбитому Боингу над Донецком, меня не покидают смутные сомнения, что у них там на самом деле хоть что то работает, ведь по сути одни базары! Есть конечно вооружение, но либо фиговое напрочь, либо старье или "многомиллионные проекты" где бабки стырили, чего то там показали, а оно не пашет... bully Так что, скорей всего по этому и не сбили) Разведка у них не робит, жрут наверное свои пончики да телек смотрят, о том какие они "исключительные" drinks good
  26. Wolka
    Wolka 14 October 2015 12: 42 New
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    and you don’t have to doubt, everything is thought out, balanced, everything according to the protocol, everything is under control, like that, Yankees, you need to prepare a war if you decide to declare it, otherwise you should not shake the air, blow your cheeks and blow bubbles, that's all in an adult way, in war, as in war ...