Opinions of Russians about the anti-terrorist operation in Syria

Last week, the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM) began publishing surveys from a single series called “Ours in Syria”. The main task of the survey, according to statements by representatives of the sociological monitoring service, is connected with the identification of the Russians' opinion on the participation of Russian military personnel in the counter-terrorist operation in Syria. In addition, the level of interest of Russian citizens in Syrian topics is estimated.


One of the questions of sociological research was related to those whom Russians consider the main culprits in the protracted Syrian conflict.

Question VTsIOM:
In Syria, 4 is already a year of bloody war. In your opinion, on whom does the main part of the blame lie for the fact that it continues?


Most respondents believe that the United States of America and its allies are guilty of Syrian bloodshed. So answered 56% of respondents. Against this background, only about 7% of respondents believe that the current Syrian President Bashar Assad’s cause is the culprit of all Syrian ills. 17% of respondents are inclined to believe that blame for the bloodshed should be placed on the opposition, and 14% are sure that the opposition, which is not far from the militants of the terrorist organization Islamic State, and 3% - on those who are accepted in certain circles call "moderate." Less than 1% of respondents from 1600 surveyed in 46 regions of the Russian Federation stated that it was all their fault ... Russia.

The next question VTsIOM draws attention to is related to the fact what support should Russia provide to Damascus?

This question could be given no more than three answers from the proposed. The triple of answers, which leads in the frequency of choice of respondents at VTsIOM, is as follows:

diplomatic support, humanitarian and economic assistance with air strikes.

Opinions of Russians about the anti-terrorist operation in Syria


5% of respondents chose to help in the form of a ground force operation in Syria as one of the answers. Interestingly, among these people there are those who answered the question above about the perpetrators of the bloodshed in Syria, answered: "Russia"? ..

24% of responses came from the option: deliveries to Syria Russian weapons.

Further VTsIOM proposes to choose one of the options after some introductory text. The text and the question are as follows:
26 years ago ended the Afghan war. What do you think is the main lesson to be learned from the war of the USSR in Afghanistan?


Response options proposed by the Russians who participated in the VTsIOM survey.

Russia does not need to participate in the Syrian conflict, and then Islamic terrorists will attack Russia.

29% of respondents were in favor of this option.

Russia needs to participate in the Syrian conflict in order to stop Islamic terrorists on long-distance approaches, and not on their own territory.

This answer has become the most popular. 64% of respondents were in favor.

At the same time, 66% of respondents (results on a different issue) said they were generally positive about the decision of Russian President Vladimir Putin to send the Russian military to Syria aviation to fight the militants. 27% of respondents do not approve of this decision.

As seen from results, published by the All-Russian Public Opinion Research Center, the majority of Russians approve of the fact that the Russian authorities sent aviation to the Russian Federation Air Force to attack terrorists outside the Russian Federation, and the actions of Russian aviation themselves.

Naturally, such results automatically upset "our non-survivors." The ultra-liberal mass does not know which way to rush in order to “debunk” the successful counter-terrorist actions of the Russian HQs in Syria and equally successful strikes against the insurgents from the Caspian Sea. How can, the mass of this help foreign media resources, including groups in social networks.

The most recent trend, “the cost of an attack carried out by Caliber cruise missiles, is more than half a billion rubles — it would be better for Putin to raise pensions for the elderly and disabled!” From the same series: “Russian military aircraft bombed Syrian territory so much that it would be better to invest these funds in an economy that has already been torn to shreds. ” There are not only ordinary people who try to think in such categories, but also quite respected (in certain circles, of course) economists. One promise: expensive, you know, very expensive! It would be better if the old women distributed everything ...

Distributing old women is, of course, wonderful, but here’s an incident: most often those who still in 90 have managed to be part of the glorious Russian government of the Yeltsin era, when the ста old women ’did not give out what there are rockets, but even what they were supposed to do according to the law. - People couldn’t get their tiny retirement month for 5-6 ... And now the figures who took part in the economic section of the Soviet pie and, sorry, slanted the economy (with the accent on the second syllable), bringing half of the country's population to poverty, suddenly, as it were, They say, knowingly, what the state should spend money on and should not.

I wonder why no one from this “glorious galaxy” who estimated the cost of economists-professionals or amateur economists who were released by “Calibrov” tells the “old ladies”, why did the cost of a barrel of oil increase by 10% from the start of the Russian antiterrorist operation in Syria? Why doesn’t he talk about how much money this made it possible to get the Russian budget on the basis of newly concluded contracts?

In the end, why do critics of the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria say nothing about the “penny” it cost and, unfortunately, the opposition to the terrorist threat on Russian territory continues to cost? These are enormous funds, given the systematic work of identifying the activity of the gangster underground, curbing the activities of extremist preachers, eliminating the channels of internal and external financing of terrorism. Or, according to the adherents of Russia's sitting on the “pope exactly” and contemplating how the new and new terrorist scum is being set on the country, and this money “would be better to distribute to the old women”? If so, then the main question is: did not those who think in such categories try to stop serving the interests of foreign sponsors of the terrorist infection, but simply start working and paying taxes to the Russian treasury? After all, then the benefits of "old women" will be immeasurably more ...
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  1. Dimsanych 13 October 2015 06: 13 New
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    The opinion of the Russians-it was necessary to crush this bastard in the bud !!! It is a pity we were not cat to this. But now you need to take the bull by the horns.
    If we want to sell our oil and gas to Europe.
    1. ssn18 13 October 2015 06: 20 New
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      "... it was necessary to crush this bastard in the bud !!!"

      I would add: "and those who gave birth to this bastard."
      1. Baikonur 13 October 2015 09: 45 New
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        Quote: ssn18
        "... it was necessary to crush this bastard in the bud !!!"

        I would add: "and those who gave birth to this bastard."

        I would also add these:
        Less than 1% of the 1600 respondents in 46 regions of the Russian Federation said they were to blame for everything ... Russia.
        1. Koshak 13 October 2015 11: 29 New
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          Quote: Baikonur
          I would also add these:
          Less than 1% of the 1600 respondents in 46 regions of the Russian Federation said they were to blame for everything ... Russia.

          1% - it’s apparently they ran into some kind of “refugees” during the survey.
          1. Foxmara 14 October 2015 02: 54 New
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            besides refugees, we have people who have long and consistently taken an anti-Russian position, read radio freedom, mourn Nemtsov, as a rule people are very short-sighted, but they are real living people, here’s an example for you, lives in Russia, builds a house, enjoys Putin’s stability and He hates him. typical dill? He doesn’t hear arguments, firmly believes in what he wants. please do not crap on the page, cited only as an example)) and still will not appreciate and understand. http://vk.com/id134299985
        2. veksha50 13 October 2015 14: 06 New
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          Quote: Baikonur
          I would also add these:



          Hmm ... but these just need to put at the head of the queue on the scaffold ...
          1. Talgat 13 October 2015 21: 02 New
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            it is very important to repulse the liberals about "handing out to old women"

            This is an outright lie and hostile propaganda! Here in the 90, they have already destroyed both the military-industrial complex and the defense. how would the people go - and so what?

            The result is impoverishment. They began to consume meat, cheese, bread, everything in 5-10 times less (Kara Murza has all the naked statistics - you don’t have to go far) and there’s also a complete stop to medicine. education and kindergartens all turned into "offices" and warehouses of speculators. Factories and enterprises stood up - all without work - women on the panel. men or gangsters or homeless people

            In general, we passed know, outrageously. that they’re trying to re-steam such crap

            The military-industrial complex and the army guarantee sovereignty and independent politics, protecting the population, and also the engine of the economy

            It’s another matter that there is a balance in the budget and that the defense does not eat up the social sphere - but this is another matter - depending on the international and external situation at the borders

            I, too, have many friends wondering why the KZ contains the second Air Force after Russia (it also started to buy Su-30), numerous tanks and ground forces - partisan formations from the south are a real threat - there is no need to fight against NATO. Plus, the fleet in the Caspian - albeit a small one, but why the type at all - is there a Russian

            I agreed at one time, but now I think that the Russian Federation cannot alone bear the whole load. And KZ is the second largest budget in the EAC after the Russian Federation and probably should bear some kind of load on the general defense, except that it "closes the southern border"

            Like in WWII, our Panfilov division came in very handy at the difficult moment when the “NATO” was near Moscow
      2. Alexey-74 13 October 2015 10: 01 New
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        soak these geek everywhere ..... even nothing to blame
      3. Aksakal_07 13 October 2015 10: 46 New
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        The "germ", as I recall, arose in the ever-memorable Interregional Deputy Group, whose members were fully used by the blind Americans and their special services. Perhaps the CPSU elite was not entirely capable, but it was not a servant of instrumental capital. In a word, unfortunately, the Americans had a half-orange half-revolution already in the late 80s, but, to our happiness, carried out semi-successfully at the end of perestroika.
        1. ZU-23 13 October 2015 13: 39 New
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          Our opinions are crystal clear as morning dew, soaking the igil everywhere in the flesh to sartir.
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      4. northern 13 October 2015 15: 15 New
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        Quote: ssn18
        "... it was necessary to crush this bastard in the bud !!!"

        I would add: "and those who gave birth to this bastard."

        Blow to ISIS headquarters?
        1. Thronekeeper 14 October 2015 16: 38 New
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          It seems that the headquarters of ISIS and al-Qaeda is located in Langley, and not in the Pentagon.
          1. northern 14 October 2015 18: 04 New
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            But they do not say where the real ones are, and where the moderate ones, we will assume that some of them are in the pentagon.
        2. Victor Demchenko 15 October 2015 13: 29 New
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          why one plane? !!! this object requires at least two links of "white swans" with full ammunition load!
    2. Felix1 13 October 2015 06: 22 New
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      and where does Syria and the sale of oil and gas to Europe? strange somehow, and whom to crush in the bud?
      1. Pro100Igor 13 October 2015 06: 30 New
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        And at the same time, dear Victor, that America wants to draw a gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar controlled to Europe and oust Russia from the European market. But Assad does not allow this to be done, which led to his disfavor for the West. You need at least a little interest in the roots of this conflict, so as not to look silly with such questions!
        1. orskpdc 13 October 2015 06: 46 New
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          So it’s good. There is nothing to feed these reptiles with our "wealth".
          1. Homo 13 October 2015 10: 29 New
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            Quote: orskpdc
            So it’s good. There is nothing to feed these reptiles with our "wealth".

            You need to change the flag. The principle "I myself will not give a damn and I will not give it to others" is not our principle. Russia will not be able to digest all the oil and gas within itself. And having surpluses, why not make money on it?
            1. goblin xnumx 13 October 2015 13: 40 New
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              Of course, the sale of surpluses at an inflated price within the state is the highest measure for ...- litter:) - Concern for citizens:) - How did I not immediately understand that
              1. orskpdc 13 October 2015 14: 08 New
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                Yes, judging by the increase in gas prices, "surplus" was not enough.
              2. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 03 New
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                goblin xnumx

                The sale of petroleum products at an inflated price in the domestic market is a state tax collection program.

                Do not forget that under the capitalist system, the state is one of the market participants. Participant of the competition. At the same time, the state maintains a balanced social policy. It feeds the army and internal apparatus. Medicine and free education. At the same time, in order not to go into debt, you need to have state ownership and be able to collect taxes.

                So that the state needs help. And take care of it like the apple of an eye. And then you’ll retire to live in a cardboard box.
                1. orskpdc 13 October 2015 21: 49 New
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                  give money to the state or buy gasoline for an American 300 heavily jeep .....
                  decided to sell and buy a hare
                2. Lenin 15 October 2015 09: 52 New
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                  Judging by what is happening with the pension fund and demographics, many will still go to live in a cardboard box.
        2. atalef 13 October 2015 07: 10 New
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          Quote: Pro100
          And at the same time, dear Victor, that America wants to draw a gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar controlled to Europe and oust Russia from the European market. And Assad does not allow this.

          Why does Assad not want this?
          Tk from your words it turns out that the war in Syria because of the interests of Gazprom
          Tell me something like that?
          Investment. Transit fee. cheap gas.
          Why was he against and was there anyway, is this the reason?
          Quote: Pro100
          You need at least a little interest in the roots of this conflict, so as not to look silly with such questions!

          Here I am about that.
          If you think that the reason is a mythical gas pipeline. all the more so given that there are ways not only through Syria - still ask about the real causes of the conflict.
          1. Boris55 13 October 2015 07: 22 New
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            Quote: atalef
            So from your words it turns out that the war in Syria because of the interests of Gazprom

            In your opinion, Gazprom is an organization independent of the state and whose interests do not in any way affect the welfare of state employees, pensioners, students, etc. If this is so, then you are deeply mistaken or are engaged in misinformation.
            1. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 07: 40 New
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              Quote: Boris55

              In your opinion, Gazprom is an organization independent of the state and

              It’s strange, then, why Ukrainian politicians are running to Putin about gas. All the crowds would run to Miller.
              Quote: Boris55
              whose interests are not reflected in any way on the welfare of state employees, pensioners, students, etc.

              It only means that you absolutely don’t know where the Gazprom money goes. If you have all of them, where to put it in the bank, you will immediately feel it. Well, maybe not you, but pioneers and state employees for sure.
            2. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 30 New
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              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: atalef
              So from your words it turns out that the war in Syria because of the interests of Gazprom

              In your opinion, Gazprom is an organization independent of the state and whose interests do not in any way affect the welfare of state employees, pensioners, students, etc. If this is so, then you are deeply mistaken or are engaged in misinformation.


              No, I perfectly understand that Gazprom is a state, but based on your post you can understand only one thing - only Russia was interested in the war in Syria.
              Otherwise, I will not understand your logic.
              1. The Chat 13 October 2015 09: 55 New
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                The interest of the war in Syria was in the USA, Saudis and Israel - fighters for the "democratization" of the whole world.
                1. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 14 New
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                  The Chat

                  Israel has a conflict with Syria only from the perspective of the return of the Dutch Heights.

                  Let me remind you. The Dutch Heights were captured by Israel during the conflict with Syria.
                  The Dutch Heights are of strategic defense to Israel. For half of Israel is shot directly from these hills. Israel is not a big country.

                  Weakened Syria is beneficial for Israel, since they will not demand the height back. But Israel is not profitable to have destroyed Syria, since there will be no one to control the gangs of Islamists and they will climb into the territory of Israel.

                  Opinion of Jacob Kedem. Israeli analyst.
                  1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 15: 18 New
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                    Quote: gladcu2
                    Weak Syria Benefits Israel

                    She and dissected is beneficial to many. Turkey, Kurds, Israel, Jordan. Iraq and Lebanon will not be beaten ...
              2. Angro Magno 13 October 2015 14: 14 New
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                The interest of protecting Syria in Russia and Iran. for China, this is not so critical. Neighbors of the same Syria desired to enrich themselves on it. Failed. Hence the universal sadness.
                This is if it is very short.
                1. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 18 New
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                  Angro Monroe

                  There the question is not about enrichment, but about the loss of control over the situation by the hegemonic country. They wanted something, and then they rattled everyone and everything. Redid the government for themselves (like). Did not work out. Then they began to redo it and in the end they scored everything. In short, as always.
            3. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 30 New
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              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: atalef
              So from your words it turns out that the war in Syria because of the interests of Gazprom

              In your opinion, Gazprom is an organization independent of the state and whose interests do not in any way affect the welfare of state employees, pensioners, students, etc. If this is so, then you are deeply mistaken or are engaged in misinformation.


              No, I perfectly understand that Gazprom is a state, but based on your post you can understand only one thing - only Russia was interested in the war in Syria.
              Otherwise, I will not understand your logic.
              1. Boris55 13 October 2015 10: 16 New
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                ... but based on your post, only one thing can be understood - only Russia was interested in the war in Syria.

                Global policy issues never pursue only one goal.

                You have touched on one aspect of Russian interests in Syria, I answered you on it. I do not think that the gas issue is critical for us - we are completely self-sufficient and in the West the light has not converged.
              2. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 22 New
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                It is doubtful at the expense of Gazprom.

                If anyone remembers. At that time, states and governments were destroyed by external influence. Therefore, the pipe through the territory of Syria could most likely be a fictitious reason to change the idea of ​​the interests of the parties involved in the conflict.
          2. Pro100Igor 13 October 2015 07: 22 New
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            Dear Alexander. The pipeline through Syria from Qatar will affect mainly the economy of Syria itself, also by the way the oil country. To a greater extent than the interests of Gazprom. Moreover, this is not my opinion, as you deigned to say, but the opinion of the world's leading experts in the economy. And if you think that the “mythical” gas pipeline because of which America is trying to remove Assad, financing the militants, is a legend, then maybe this is so. Is this just an excuse to support global terrorism? In your words, it turns out that way. I recommend that you delve deeper into the history of this problem, before engaging in cap-making.
            1. atalef 13 October 2015 08: 23 New
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              Quote: Pro100
              Dear Alexander. The pipeline through Syria from Qatar will affect mainly the economy of Syria itself, also by the way the oil country. To a greater extent than the interests of Gazprom. Moreover, this is not my opinion, as you deigned to say, but the opinion of the world's leading experts in the economy. And if you think that the “mythical” gas pipeline because of which America is trying to remove Assad, financing the militants, is a legend, then maybe this is so. Is this just an excuse to support global terrorism? In your words, it turns out that way. I recommend that you delve deeper into the history of this problem, before engaging in cap-making.

              Of course, it would influence which side you tell me: Turkey (it’s like fighting for the South Stream to pass through it (in order to influence and have money for transit) in all articles of the Russian media, discusses the absurdity of the behavior of Bulgaria itself, which would have investments, cheap gas and transit fees, but for some reason, in a conversation about the garden, they say that the reason is the refusal to carry out the gas pipeline from Qatar, I once again ask, what do you think are the reasons that Assad seems to have appeared and because of this the war, maybe (by to my opinion) this runs counter to any logic, then (about Syria, as an oil country, you were all in a bit of a hurry, once again a question - the pros and cons of passing the pipeline through Syria (for Syria) and what made Assad not to accept this project at the cost of war (Based on your version) Regards!
              1. Erg
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                And what made Bulgaria abandon the "southern stream"? And what makes Ukraine and the Baltic states do "hara-kiri" for themselves? You, sir, did not think about politics. hi
                1. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 09 New
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                  Quote: Erg
                  And what made Bulgaria abandon the "southern stream"? And what makes Ukraine and the Baltic states do "hara-kiri" for themselves? You, sir, did not think about politics. hi

                  Of course, I thought, therefore, the answer is pliz, which personally for Syria were the pros and cons of building a gas pipeline - first answer this question, and then we will move on to the question - who bothered.
                  1. Manul 13 October 2015 12: 04 New
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                    Quote: atalef
                    Of course, I thought, therefore, the answer is pliz, which personally for Syria were the pros and cons of building a gas pipeline - first answer this question, and then we will move on to the question - who bothered.

                    But it is not clear to you why the gas pipeline from Qatar is needed precisely through the destruction of Syria? Not in order to earn money, but in order to deprive Russia of a military base in the East, a stable source of income and the ability to set conditions for European countries. You just don’t have to pretend that you don’t understand this. Still say that if Assad suddenly leaves, then the whole war will end, a “democratic” ruler will come and Syria will turn into a flourishing paradise. Do not be a cynic.
                    1. atalef 13 October 2015 12: 12 New
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                      Quote: Manul
                      But you don’t understand why the gas pipeline from Qatar is needed precisely through the destruction of Syria.


                      Through destruction? This is a new turn, they decided to destroy Syria, put bandits there and then lead a gas pipeline through it. Wonderful are your deeds, Lord, I haven’t heard such a version yet. or maybe you could just agree with Assad? Have you carefully read my previous comments?
                      Quote: Manul
                      Not in order to earn, but in order to deprive Russia of a military base in the East

                      And that the gas pipeline passed through Tartus?
                      Quote: Manul
                      stable income and opportunities to set conditions for European countries

                      Deprive Russia of all this (as I understand it?)
                      Quote: Manul
                      . Just do not pretend that you do not understand.

                      Then, based on your logic, the only one who was disturbed by the pipeline through Syria
                      Quote: Manul
                      to deprive Russia of a military base in the East, a stable source of income and the ability to set conditions for European countries

                      It's Russia. those .... then who started the war?
                      1. goblin xnumx 13 October 2015 13: 38 New
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                        so laid out :) smile
                      2. Manul 13 October 2015 19: 44 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Through destruction? This is a new turn, they decided to destroy Syria, put bandits there and then lead a gas pipeline through it.

                        You (you) are importunate in your desire to splurge. The main thing is to divert attention from the main topic, the confrontation against Russia. And do you really not understand that all of our people (of course, pumped up by propaganda wassat ), they are considering Syria after Iraq, Yugoslavia and Libya. And here you are fading and flashing. None of yours have ever farted at the indecent behavior of America in restoring their order. But to consider Assad - you are much more likely. Take down your fountain.
                        PS And I do not understand why the site administration allows the thinnest trolls to host here. They don’t be rude (they themselves catch on rudeness and rudeness), they don’t lie (they distort reality a little) - well, such darlings love !!! But protects their admins stop - Well, they just tear the vest on the chest.

                        Of course, I am against when mines fly to the Jews, and rockets to the Palestinians. And to the Syrians. And to all in general. And even to the Americans. But the Israelis are specifically talking about America - they are ours, even if not friends, then we are still kneeling before them - they are a cool nation. This "nation" is creating lawlessness all over the world, and now our argument has been simplified, the showdown has been reduced to " that guy offended me, and now he’ll fly to ... lo "
                    2. andj61 13 October 2015 12: 34 New
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                      Quote: Manul
                      But it is not clear to you why the gas pipeline from Qatar is needed precisely through the destruction of Syria? Not in order to earn money, but in order to deprive Russia of a military base in the East, a stable source of income and the ability to set conditions for European countries.

                      The material support point in Tartus does not pull on the status of byza. Until recently, there was just everything, as they say, "two piers - four people." God grant that a normal base is done, but this is still very far away.
                      Stable article of income Russia to rob through the destruction of Syria?
                      Yes, it’s much easier — and cheaper! —To build a gas pipeline through Saudi Arabia and the Egyptian Sinai, or through Iraq and Turkey, or, at worst — Saudi Wahhabis are unlikely to do this — through Jordan and Israel.
                      But Russia's ability to set conditions for European countries is out of the realm of speculation! Both the USSR and Russia never set conditions for gas and oil supplies, emphasizing that these are completely economic projects. From your statements it’s not far from accusing Russia of starting this war: there will be a war, there will be no gas pipeline, Russia is in chocolate! request
                      It is much easier to explain the civil war in Syria with other reasons:
                      1. Internal economic contradictions between the government and the majority of citizens, between the rich and the poor. At the same time, the Alawites act as the authorities and the rich, and Sunnis as the majority of citizens and the poor.
                      2. The Arab spring inspired by European countries and the US-led policy of controlled chaos in North Africa and the Middle East.
                      At the same time, B. Assad, who received a European education and lived and worked in the West for a long time, is no less guilty of US politicians - reform policies in the Arab East cannot be carried out by European methods, and European results and European reaction of the population can be expected from it. The power structures, that is, the Alawites, used reforms to improve exclusively their position, and the majority of the population reacted similarly - and peaceful protests under the influence of Islamists quickly ceased to be peaceful.
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                        and peaceful protests under the influence of Islamists quickly ceased to be peaceful


                        100500 (+) to the point hi
                      2. atalef 13 October 2015 12: 49 New
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                        Quote: andj61
                        and peaceful protests under the influence of Islamists quickly ceased to be peaceful


                        100500 (+) to the point hi
                      3. Manul 13 October 2015 21: 54 New
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                        Quote: andj61
                        Russia in chocolate!

                        You’re not talking about Russia in chocolate, my dear Jewish friend. For it wasn’t about that. If we are talking about finances, let's start. But before that, we’ll end the war.
                        PS <A very abusive word in relation to the representation of a beautiful nation (like many others), but it’s precisely the representatives of these paisas who kindle everything here. But the poor Jews are being wetted all over the planet. And no one noticed how many Russians and Armenians died. And the Germans. And the Ukrainians, who were for their nation, but against the Cove - the Nazis. Now - your way out, you bastard.
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                        I agree Qatari gas is far-fetched here, the conflict in Syria is the logical chain of the Arab spring
                    3. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 36 New
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                      Manul

                      In understanding and determining the political situation, one should not be guided only by the determination of the parties in immediate immediate profit. Like for example a gas pipe. Syria could receive dividends from a gas pipe for transit. Which could bring the cost of gas to a standard price in Europe. In other words, Syria could benefit from the project as well.
                  2. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 30 New
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                    atalef

                    You drew attention to the fact that brought to the surface, for a logical understanding of the situation.

                    In fact, there were stakes on seizing power in Syria and turning the state into slavery. Without the right to conduct foreign and most important domestic policies.

                    This is the idea of ​​globalization.

                    A gas pipe is most likely a bluff.
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                    The answer is friendship with Russia. It costs a lot. wink
              2. Pro100Igor 13 October 2015 09: 04 New
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                Look for the answer in PM. Yours faithfully!
                1. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 12 New
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                  Quote: Pro100
                  Look for the answer in PM. Yours faithfully!

                  I did not ask you to reprint the article, we will come to this later, I asked you to answer what personally the pros and cons of building a gas pipeline for Syria, what it gained and what it lost-Syria personally, with respect
                  1. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 09: 20 New
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                    , I ask you to answer, what personally were the pros and cons of building a gas pipeline for Syria

                    Sanya, he doesn’t answer here, he stupidly puts down the cons and that’s it. Read all of his comments on this topic, the mind goes into the mind. He put everything together. This is XNUMX percent Girkin himself
                    Sanya, he introduced me to the emergency wassat But I keep seeing his masterpieces lol
                    1. Felix1 13 October 2015 09: 31 New
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                      That's for sure :-)
                    2. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 35 New
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                      Sanya, he doesn’t answer here, he stupidly puts cons and that's it

                      so is he also minifying?
                      It’s a pity, but I thought the marshals did not get such a childhood illness. laughing
                      Apparently the profile picture is true, Girkin had the same so many hopes, and was blown away like a rubber baby doll.
                      1. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 09: 48 New
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                        there were so many hopes on Girkin

                        There were no hopes for him, it was just that his mass media were publicizing everything.
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                        There were no hopes for him, it was just that his mass media were publicizing everything.

                        And try to hurt him - fans of this girkin immediately drive you into the minus.
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                  3. andj61 13 October 2015 09: 58 New
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                    Sanya, he introduced me to the emergency, but I continue to see his masterpieces

                    Moderator in an emergency? That's cool! good
                    It is necessary even before the heap and the administrator to make! fellow
                2. andj61 13 October 2015 09: 43 New
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                  what were the pros and cons of building a gas pipeline for Syria personally, what did it gain and what did it lose - Syria

                  Greetings, Alexander! This gas pipeline - I agree with you - is truly mythical. It could well have been transported from Iraq through the same Turkey, a NATO member, and Assad would not only not have refused to build a gas pipeline through Syria, but, on the contrary, would have immediately seized on this idea: economic injections will undoubtedly strengthen power. If only, of course, such a strengthening was generally included in the plans of those wishing to build a gas pipeline.
                  But, in my opinion, the same idiotic US policy takes place here under the name of a policy of controlled chaos ", aimed at overthrowing independent, in American terminology," dictators "in the Arab world .. In Tunisia - it turned out, in Libya - with the intervention of the West - also succeeded, in Egypt - success again, however, then the army nevertheless restored the status quo. And in Syria the "dictator" found himself with iron bells, and did not succumb - that's all. And even in the case of the Islamists coming to power in Syria - while there is simply no other scenario for Assad’s defeat and there simply isn’t any other force — Christians, Alawites, Kurds, Druze, and many of the Sunnis who reject the idea of ​​creating a state living according to Sharia law will be destroyed. was a secular state, and the alternative to it now is only medieval savagery. request
                  1. atalef 13 October 2015 10: 17 New
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                    Greetings, Alexander!

                    Hey . Andrew !!
                    Quote: andj61
                    This gas pipeline - I agree with you - is truly mythical. It could well have been transported from Iraq through the same Turkey, a NATO member, and Assad would not only not have refused to build a gas pipeline through Syria, but, on the contrary, would have immediately seized on this idea: economic injections will undoubtedly strengthen power.

                    otozh
                    Quote: andj61
                    But, in my opinion, there is the same idiotic US policy called the policy of controlled chaos ", aimed at overthrowing independent, in the terminology of Americans," dictators "in the Arab world ..

                    Andrei, I absolutely do not rule out the possibility and, moreover, I agree that the EU and, first of all, France, and then the United States, have joined the crisis in Syria, BUT
                    Many of you did not even know about the crisis and the beginning of the mess in Siri, before specific military actions began there, as it was not covered in the Russian media. We, as it was seen from the first days of the development of events. Neighbors like.
                    Well, the fact that the water crisis began with the withdrawal of the Efrat River (Turkey) in Syria doesn’t tell you anything, it started as early as 8-10 years ago and led to the mass impoverishment of the peasants (mainly Sunnis), but Pope Assad kept them well and pummeled they were generally afraid. But dad died, Bashar came and being generally a European person (at the same time not ready to rule the country, having no will, etc., the most dangerous people, I would say. Maybe the weak always try to prove that they have the biggest eggs and therefore they decisions are not logical (often), but it’s not real to retreat for them (and even then to strategically win) - well, the Bashar came and saw the impoverishment of the people. he decided (as a European-educated person) to carry out economic reforms but his whole life After living in Europe and treating others with vision, he turned out to be completely blind and did not understand the main thing - HE IS NOT IN EUROPE, AND ON B.V.,
                    all his reforms boiled down to one, the corrupt ALAVITA elite gathered all the foams sharply enriched, while the Sunni peasants became poorer more and more.
                    Where did they (ruined Krkstyans) rush to? That's right - in the cities (doesn’t it remind you of anything?). Having created the huge suburbs around the financial centers in Syria - slums. Uneducated, radicalized. beggars - peasants _ Sunni. And whom they see around, the RICH ALAVITS (heretics and apostates, although at the first stage this did not play a role)
                    The Arab spring begins (I don’t want to point out where, how and why), but it has come down to Syria, and as you know, the ground for discontent was fertilized, plowed and watered, WHOM? BASHAROM is a fact and there is no getting away from it. But in Syria, the people were not yet very fundamental, so they came out with demands for reforms, reducing the influence of the Assad clan and the Alawites, and simply stupidly wanted to live better
                    THAT'S BEGINNING WITH IT. And it went on for quite some time, peaceful demonstrations and nothing more (you didn’t see anything, maybe the Russian media didn’t cover it or paid minimal attention).
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                      But returning to Assad and his eggs - you realized, yes, that he did not give them anything. in general (maybe the old guard simply didn’t give him) and at some point, one of the demonstrations was not something that was dispersed. and the youth was arrested and ... the muhabarat broke his fingers. The next day, Uncle Bashar arrived there and ... promoted an officer (who did this in the rank) - after that the first shots started.
                      TELL that you knew all this?
                      Well, then, it started, like com. Assad drew an army against the suburbs (and there are Sunni peasants) ... and all the Sunnis (the military deserted) and where?
                      SSA and further down depending on the radicalization of views.
                      Now look at the territory of Syria, see where anyone controls whom, put an economic map on it and you will understand
                      ISIS - peasant (Sunni) areas. This is their concept of life and ideology that is understandable and accepted by the local population
                      SSA - the suburbs and more less industrialized areas of Syria (the same Sunnis, just say so - technical intelligentsia)
                      Assad - Alavite raions and large cities (city center) where in general the Alavite elite and others like them sat
                      Al-nusra (Sunnis) border with Turkey - in the politics of the Turkish Muslim brothers, they are much closer than the secular SSA.

                      Kurds. Druze - I do not touch - they generally will not have problems. Alawites in the problem, well, so they pleased her.
                      Well, now looking at this alignment and about the development of the situation I have described, your conclusions
                    2. andj61 13 October 2015 11: 08 New
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                      Well, now looking at this alignment and about the development of the situation I have described, your conclusions

                      Conclusions - you and I have already discussed this - Syria cannot exist in its former quality. Assad will leave sooner or later, there is no getting away from it, here is a classic revolutionary situation: the upper (Alawites) cannot control in the old way, and the lower classes (in this case, the Sunnis) do not want to live in the old way. And to make them live in one state - I don’t even know what can make it. So the collapse of Syria into four parts is more real than ever. The intervention of Russia can prevent the destruction of the Alawites (Kurds and Druzes, too), only the Syrians themselves can save a single state. But they are unlikely to want to. Too late - it had to be done about five years, preferably ten years ago.
                      The main thing is that the Sunni state that has arisen in Syria is not under the control of the Islamists.
                  2. Manul 13 October 2015 12: 12 New
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                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, the fact that the water crisis began with the withdrawal of the Efrat River (Turkey) in Syria doesn’t tell you anything, it started as early as 8-10 years ago and led to the mass impoverishment of the peasants (mainly Sunnis), but Pope Assad kept them well and pummeled they were generally afraid. But dad died, Bashar came and being generally a European person (at the same time not ready to rule the country, having no will, etc., the most dangerous people, I would say. Maybe the weak always try to prove that they have the biggest eggs and therefore they decisions are not logical (often), but it’s not real to retreat for them (and even then to strategically win) - well, the Bashar came and saw the impoverishment of the people. he decided (as a European-educated person) to carry out economic reforms but his whole life After living in Europe and treating others with vision, he turned out to be completely blind and did not understand the main thing - HE IS NOT IN EUROPE, AND ON B.V.,
                    all his reforms boiled down to one, the corrupt ALAVITA elite gathered all the foams sharply enriched, while the Sunni peasants became poorer more and more.
                    Where did they (ruined Krkstyans) rush to? That's right - in the cities (doesn’t it remind you of anything?). Having created the huge suburbs around the financial centers in Syria - slums. Uneducated, radicalized. beggars - peasants _ Sunni. And whom they see around, the RICH ALAVITS (heretics and apostates, although at the first stage this did not play a role)
                    The Arab spring begins (I don’t want to point out where, how and why), but it has come down to Syria, and as you know, the ground for discontent was fertilized, plowed and watered, WHOM? BASHAROM is a fact and there is no getting away from it. But in Syria, the people were not yet very fundamental, so they came out with demands for reforms, reducing the influence of the Assad clan and the Alawites, and simply stupidly wanted to live better
                    THAT'S BEGINNING WITH IT. And it went on for quite some time, peaceful demonstrations and nothing more (you didn’t see anything, maybe the Russian media didn’t cover it or paid minimal attention).

                    And Yanukovych is a tyrant, a thief and a despot. If not for him, Ukraine would now roll like cheese in butter.
                  3. atalef 13 October 2015 12: 26 New
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                    And Yanukovych is a tyrant, a thief and a despot. If not for him, Ukraine would now roll like cheese in butter


                    And why didn’t he add, the USA should be destroyed, otherwise the comment is not complete?
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                    Quote: atalef
                    And why didn’t he add, the USA should be destroyed, otherwise the comment is not complete?

                    You and comrades all the time curse the damned Assad. And Russia has nothing to do with it (for now). The main thing is to overthrow the bloody dictators. Hussein, Milosevic, Gaddafi, now Assad. Come on, quote your quotes when the mattresses bombed them (as soon as you squeeze you completely about them, you shrug your shoulders and say, “Well, this is the strongest nation on the planet, what can we do about it” Gee. laughing ) bombed previous dictators .. Shinity, Sunnis, peasants, Arabs, Montenegrins, Albanians, self-determination .. fi. We already have immunity to your trolling. And even more, I’ll tell you a secret lol
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                    To the point, friend. I consider Stalin a great leader. From here it is not difficult to calculate what I will express. Worse there is no weak power. And Bashar with our support is a strong power. And to put horseradish on all enemy hands. The country must be raised. And this is given to the strong.
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                And Yanukovych is a tyrant, a thief and a despot. If not for him, Ukraine would now roll like cheese in butter


                And why didn’t he add, the USA should be destroyed, otherwise the comment is not complete?
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                And why didn’t he add, the USA should be destroyed, otherwise the comment is not complete?

                You can look at my comments. And ask Romanov. I have never commented on this. Maybe and added on joys.
                But in principle, if a war is being waged against me, it is logical to assume that I am counting on the surrender of the opponent.
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                And why didn’t he add, the USA should be destroyed, otherwise the comment is not complete?

                Hey, atalephic creature .. And what about America?
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            Thank you for the description of the prehistory of the conflict, but this is commonplace and can be projected to any country, Ukraine is permissible. Syria and at the moment Ukraine are just nodes where the interests of many geo-players clashed, and then according to the usual scenario, protests of the dumb poor, pumped-up gangs and weapons, bloody chaos and a change of power, statehood will then be restored by and large the initiators would not care Egypt example
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  2. Angro Magno 13 October 2015 14: 17 New
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    The gas pipeline from Qatar is only one of the versions, moreover, beloved by the Scammers.
    In reality, as already noted above, there can be many reasons and not all of them lie on the surface.

    Threat. I apologize for interfering in the conversation.
  3. gladcu2 13 October 2015 15: 26 New
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    atalef

    First of all, Assad appeared independence. And this was enough to organize against him internal covertization and foreign policy pressure. So, guessing about the pipe is not worth it. Then in another place the dogs rummaged.
  • hydrox 13 October 2015 08: 51 New
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    I recommend that you delve deeper into the history of this problem, before engaging in cap-making.

    You don’t know the history of the issue: the Qatari gas pipeline is the end of Gazprom’s monopoly on profit from Europe (Gazprom’s money is the largest component in the Russian budget) and the loss of political and economic influence on Europe. After all, it is not Ukraine that is interested in Europe, but the fate of gas transit.
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      1. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 09: 18 New
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        Quote: Pro100
        I advise you to be more careful in reading my comments.

        Oh yeah wink
        Quote: Pro100
        America wants to draw a gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar controlled to Europe and oust Russia from the European market. But Assad does not allow this to be done, which led to his disfavor for the West.

        Well, you should read another koment and you understand that gas has nothing to do with it wassat
        Quote: Pro100
        Yes, just Russia does not want to allow militants igil to the territory of their country. This is the answer to all questions.

        You really, like that person on your avatar, spin this way and that, if only it was in color.
    2. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 09: 21 New
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      :: Qatar gas pipeline is the end of Gazprom’s monopoly

      Gazprom has no monopoly in Europe. And if it were to displace Gazprom in this way, they would have built Nabucco long ago .. and cheaper and safer. But no.
    3. mark2 13 October 2015 10: 12 New
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      Well, at least someone came to the right conclusion. The pipeline through Syria is the end of Gazprom’s monopoly. The leadership of the corporation Gazprom-Russia understands this. Therefore, they got into this war. The goal is simple. Do not let the pipe flow to Europe, or take it under control. And this is normal. It’s normal from the point of view of the GAZprom-Russia Corporation, but not from the human point of view. Capitalism has entered the stage of corporate wars. Corporations decide everything. Only there is one caveat. Their corporations are just beginning to enter into a synthesis with the state. Our whole country is one continuous corporation, the Great Energy Power.

      Welcome to the Future, gentlemen !!

      Does everyone remember the movie "Screamers"? It was just about endlessly corporate wars. This is the future for us. We didn’t come up with this, but the doctrine of world globalization doesn’t suppose one figs, although it is silent. Our just fussed over time. And there is every reason to believe that Russia will be able to control all energy flows, at least on this continent. There is everything for this! Endless resources, huge support from the authorities, controlled people, a strong trained army, high-tech industries in the military-industrial complex.
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        The USSR, if you remember, was a huge corporation. And he had significant success on various issues in domestic and foreign policy. In other words, the stronger the state, the greater the chance of stability.

        No need to abuse the word "gentlemen".
        I am a man of the old slaughter, I do not see the master in myself. Neither in you nor in others all the more.
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      Gazprom money is the largest component in Russia's budget



      Study the budget structure.
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      (Gazprom money is the largest component in the Russian budget)

      Here I’m not sure, it seems we have more oil. But the impact on Europe is yes. We need this hobbyhorse.
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      it’s just that you don’t know the local gas distribution and the Qatari gas pipeline is nothing more than a myth
  • Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 07: 42 New
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    Tk from your words it turns out that the war in Syria because of the interests of Gazprom
    Tell me something like that?

    Sanya, do not take out their brain laughing
  • Felix1 13 October 2015 07: 47 New
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    Yes, all this is nonsense, there are many other sources of gas supplies. just a matter of time, such contracts are not quickly signed. Moreover, Assad himself could use the pipe selling gas in spot markets.
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      There are many other sources of gas supplies.

      All liberals think so: then why such a degree of their hysteria in the Syrian issue?
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        then why such a degree of their hysteria in the Syrian issue?

        Yes, they will hysteria on all issues. They hysteria about Khimki forest, hysteria about fagots ...
    2. mark2 13 October 2015 10: 26 New
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      Yes, but you still have to get to them. Norway will not be able to provide the whole of Europe. The adventure with shale gas has failed. All pipelines that will run around Russia are now easily accessible after the October 7 demontration. Well, in the matter itself, do not put the pipe through Australia?

      It so happened that Russia's position on the continent allows controlling the entire continent and it would be foolish not to take advantage of it.

      It’s sad, of course, but money decides everything in this World! And huge money decides absolutely everything!
  • Baloo 13 October 2015 07: 47 New
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    You do not see the main thing: a tool in the global war for hydrocarbons and their transportation, macaques from fascington rely on terrorism and the fragmentation of sovereign states. Wipe your glasses, look at the whole picture, where Syria or Banderkrain are only puzzles. hi
  • hrych 13 October 2015 07: 52 New
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    There are no other ways for Qatari gas, the first condition is to get around Iraq, most of the fierce enemies are Shiites, and the border with Turkey is populated by Kurds, there is no prospect of a peaceful solution to the problem and the Turks will never agree to this option. The second condition: the geographically industrial west of Turkey, as a consumer and high mountain east with mountains under five thousand meters, gives certain coordinates for the passage of the pipe in Turkey itself. The third condition, “dad” and co-founder - Saudi Arabia, doesn’t want to have a pipe past itself ... The fourth condition - before Assad’s fall, it seemed like a few days (and the funds were invested, like the costs of building a gas pipeline), the main population is Sunnis and access to the Mediterranean Sea, as an additional prospect for the construction of a liquefaction plant and the prospect of an underwater wire in the EU bypassing Turkey. In a word, both geographically and politically, and theologically it is impossible to pass by Syria. And also, the straighter the pipe, the cheaper it is, while the pipeline pays off in years. And the hated Russians already have pipes and pump them every second, and they continue to build them, and these are all in projects, and even the south of the EU, where the pipe gets in consists of backward parasites (Greece, Bulgaria, the former Yugoslavia) ...
    1. andj61 13 October 2015 10: 12 New
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      There are other ways for Qatari gas, the first condition is to go around Iraq, there are most Shiite fierce enemies there, and the border with Turkey is populated by Kurds, there is no prospect of a peaceful solution to the problem and the Turks will never agree to this option.

      But is it impossible to pass through Saudi Arabia and the Egyptian Sinai? what In my opinion - easy!
      Yes, and through Turkey - it is also possible. At the junction of the borders of Iraq, Syria, Turkey, there are not only mountains of five thousandths - only Elbrus, Kazbek and Ararat are such in the Caucasus, but also four thousandths. It is possible to lay a gas pipeline, but this is Kurdish land, and Turkey does not want it - ensuring security would largely fall on it.
      There used to be a Trans-Arabian oil pipeline, it went through Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, but after Israel seized the Golan Heights where it passed, it was covered up: some Semites did not want to pump oil through the territory controlled by other Semites.
      The optimal gas pipeline route is through Jordan and Israel, but this is absolutely unrealistic in today's conditions.
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        But is it impossible to pass through Saudi Arabia and the Egyptian Sinai?

        Where? To Africa? EU consumer.
        Quote: andj61
        Optimal gas pipeline route - through Jordan and Israel

        And further only by sea, besides Israel is as far removed as possible, by land one devil is only Syria. With a sea wire, if we mean the Nord Stream, the wire from the supplier of the Russian Federation directly to the consumer in Germany, not only directly to the industrial area (although all of Germany is an industrial area), everyone has to pay for transit through the territory, here the high cost for underwater communication pays off . Profitability has not been canceled. Qatari gas in Austria or Italy will be more expensive and uncompetitive, plus the question immediately: Who will build the hubs and wires in the Balkans? With the South Stream, Gazprom took it upon itself, so again from the Russian Federation directly to the EU, the whole point is to throw off unreliable transit countries, but believe me, even Svidomo Ukraine is more reliable than ISIS, Kurds, Hamasevites, etc.
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        But is it impossible to pass through Saudi Arabia and the Egyptian Sinai? In my opinion - easy!


        Andrey - this is your way, but does not coincide with propaganda
        Quote: andj61
        The optimal gas pipeline route is through Jordan and Israel, but this is absolutely unrealistic in today's conditions.


        Optimal, but not necessary. Gigantic gas reserves have been found in Egypt, adding our 5 kopecks and Cyprus (which they will start to produce in spite of Turkey) - of course, another gas pipeline will come to Europe. And he will come to Jordan the same and 100% to him (the gas pipeline) will connect to Jordan and Saudi Arabia and Qatar and will calmly pump this gas, having done a simple thing, going to Europe, the gas pipeline will be from Sinai and then the wolves are full and the sheep are safe and the tale of the Syrian pipeline will scatter like smoke.
        As it was originally a fairy tale.
    2. Professor 13 October 2015 11: 05 New
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      Quote: hrych
      There are no other ways for Qatari gas

      Quote: hrych
      In a word, both geographically and politically, and theologically it is impossible to pass by Syria.

      I read and precipitate from geographic cretinism and political illiteracy. Pull the pipe from Qatar to Europe:
      1. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Europe
      2. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Europe

      As we see, Syria may not be at all in the way of the pipe. request
      1. hrych 13 October 2015 11: 29 New
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        geographic cretinism

        Professor, let me call you an assistant professor. Do not pull ... Do not already precipitate from your geographical cretinism ... The land route to your regret, bypassing Syria, is not an alternative to Iraq and Iran.
        Firstly, all your pearls end in the sea, and at the farthest point from Europe. Secondly, there are too many transit countries, moreover, Jews appeared somehow strange in your scheme. But does this miracle pass through the gas sector?
        1. Professor 13 October 2015 11: 47 New
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          Firstly, all your pearls end in the sea, and at the farthest point from Europe.

          End by the sea? Can not be? The sea is an insurmountable obstacle for a gas pipe. It is a pity the builders of the South Stream and the North Stream did not know about this. And then they are not literate pipe thrown on the bottom of the sea. And of course Italy or Greece are the most "remote" points of Europe. What do you have with geography in your head? wink

          Quote: hrych
          Secondly, there are too many transit countries, and, somehow strange, Jews appeared in your scheme.

          And let's count. By "your" non-alternative route:
          1. Qatar
          2. Saudi
          3. Jordan
          4. Syria
          5. Turkey
          arrived in Europe

          On my route:
          1. Qatar
          2. Saudi
          3. Egypt
          4. Turkey or directly to Europe

          And where do more transit countries come from? laughing

          A route through Israel also exists as an alternative. Security and stability in Israel are guaranteed.

          So is there a way from Qatar to Europe bypassing Syria or not? wink
          1. hrych 13 October 2015 12: 01 New
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            The Jewish gas pipeline is cunning - it winds through the desert, as Moses drove, and along the sea, as if on dry land ...
            Quote: Professor
            Security and stability in Israel are guaranteed.
            Ha ha ha ha! wassat
            In Egypt, a group of unknowns blew up a gas pipeline supplying fuel to Israel and Jordan, the BBC reports with reference to the country's security forces ...
            In this region, this is the second attempt this month to disrupt the operation of the pipeline connecting these countries. Previously, attackers managed to lay explosives, but they did not detonate. In addition, as a result of the attack on February 5, 2011. During mass protests against President H. Mubarak, gas supplies to Israel and Jordan were cut off for a month.


            Read more at RBC:
            http://www.rbc.ru/incidents/27/04/2011/583397.shtml
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              The Jewish gas pipeline is cunning - it winds through the desert, as Moses drove, and along the sea, as if on dry land ...

              the "Jewish" gas pipeline lies quietly and humbly to itself, does not touch anyone and pumps gas.

              Quote: hrych
              In Egypt, a group of unknowns blew up a gas pipeline supplying fuel to Israel and Jordan, the BBC reports with reference to the country's security forces ...

              Here I am about that. In Israel, nobody touches the gas pipeline, and if the gas pipeline in Egypt were laid along the bottom of the sea, then no one would touch it there.

              Quote: hrych
              Feel the difference.

              I felt it. We are pulling a branch from Saudi Arabia to Israel, and from there straight to Europe. We protect the pipe as we can and remove our walrus. Everyone is happy, Arabs sell gas, Europeans get energy security and Israel basks in the sun.
              1. hrych 13 October 2015 21: 13 New
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                Everyone is happy, Arabs sell gas, Europeans get energy security and Israel basks in the sun.

                I have a different version: Everyone is dissatisfied, Europe, as it had energy security, still has it, only thanks to the Rus, and from the Arabs there is only increasing migration and unrest, including the fall of the Saudi house, and Israel is basking in the radiant energy of the explosion of the Shiite plutonium charge ... laughing
        2. atalef 13 October 2015 11: 49 New
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          Firstly, all your pearls end in the sea, and at the farthest point from Europe.

          Well, Russia in any way interferes with gas pipelines by sea, what is the catch here? Moreover, you somehow do not take into account the fact that any gas pipeline through Syria should seem to go to Turkey, and by sea, there are no problems, even to Turkey. even to Italy. Further, for the money spent on Syria - it would be possible to build a gas pipeline through the South Pole long ago
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          . Secondly, there are too many transit countries

          Who is * Saudi Arabia-Egypt
          Qatar -Saudi-Egypt-Sea
          Or how are you - Qatar, Jordan. Syria-Turkey and further Greece or what?
          Not okay. the sea is free, it can also be more expensive to build, for there is no hemorrhoids with transit.
          Russia by the way understands this very well
          1. hrych 13 October 2015 12: 11 New
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            Well, Russia, however, interferes with the gas pipelines by sea

            Yes, and Gazprom will build you ...
            Quote: atalef
            Or how are you - Qatar, Jordan. Syria-Turkey and further Greece or how

            Qatar, CA and Jordan are allies. Turkey could not be toured, and Syria would not be a state, but the territory controlled by Qatar and the SA. In your Jewish scheme, the counter-revolutionary regime of Sisi, the enemy of the monarchies, democratic Israel (whose friend is he there?) And it all ended in the sea, i.e. the story is just beginning. The north and failed south of the RF directly into the EU, so even before Austria and others, she herself wanted to lead the poor Balkans. Feel the difference.
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  • Volzhanin 13 October 2015 08: 19 New
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    The main reason is of course the gas pipeline. There is nothing to talk about. And of course, besides this, there is still a bunch of additional ones.
    So the Pro100 Igor is absolutely right.

    If you know a more significant reason - please do not be lazy, write a couple of phrases on this topic. Only I doubt that you will do this, because you hardly want to be justly ridiculed.
    1. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 08: 40 New
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      The main reason is of course the gas pipeline. There is nothing to talk about.

      And whatever it was built, Russia unleashed a warrior in Syria yes wassat Well, brains then at least not much should be fool
      1. Baloo 13 October 2015 09: 17 New
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        It is a question of controlling not only production, but also transportation.
        1. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 26 New
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          Quote: Balu
          It is about controlling not only production, but also transportation
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          ok - expand your thought further.
          Syria would control Qatar gas (influence), participate in the construction of the gas pipeline (investment), receive a transit fee (real money for nothing) - i.e. everything is like Bulgaria - but in one case it seems like Syria’s refusal to do so at the cost of war is right
          in the second case, like Bulgaria, this is the height of stupidity
          in the first case, the EU forced Bulgaria
          then who forced Assad?
          maybe from all other points of view, the refusal of Syria from a gas pipeline through the territory is simply the height of the absurd.
          Maybe when you think about these things and if you accept the first version (war over the gas pipeline), then the logical chain leads straight to Gazprom and Russia
          or just realize that the version with the gas pipeline is simply absurd and untenable, but is intended solely to beat the brains of people who do not see beyond their nose.
          The war in Syria for completely different reasons and the gas pipeline does not play any role here. IMHO.
          1. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 09: 31 New
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            then who forced Assad?

            Scha templates will begin to tear, it turns out that Russia belay
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            The war in Syria for completely different reasons and the gas pipeline does not play any role here.

            Then it turns out the United States? Apparently, there is a US desire to limit the energy independence of the EU, and to force it to join the Transatlantic Union.
          3. Baloo 13 October 2015 11: 04 New
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            From my sofa, I present a slightly different picture: Those who are against Assad use terrorists to destroy Syria as a state, to establish control over oil and gas supplies from this region and seize a new gas field.
            Russia got involved on the side of Assad to destroy terrorists and have Syria as a predictable and reliable partner for mutually beneficial cooperation.
            So the goals in this war are different.
          4. Nyrobsky 13 October 2015 12: 22 New
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            Quote: atalef
            The war in Syria for completely different reasons and the gas pipeline does not play any role here. IMHO.

            Most likely - this is one of the reasons, among others.
            In 2011, Gaddafi proposed to use - the gold dinar, not the dollar, when calculating for oil, which was supported by Iran and Syria. As you know, 2012 did not meet Gaddafi, and the idea of ​​an alternative to the dollar in international settlements went out for a while (although today this process has gone from China and Russia, and Iran has switched to gold and barter)
            In 2011, there was an idea to link Libya, Syria, Iraq and Iran into one gas transportation system, which would give the gas of Qatar and the SA the opportunity to be present in this pipe only as transit. I don’t want to share, but I don’t want to finance the Alawites and Iranians even more.
            With the elimination of Assad, it becomes possible to squeeze the Russian Federation out of the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf - this is no longer an economy, it is geopolitics (although one is inextricably linked with the other).
            With the creation of chaos in the BV and the creation of micro-states, it becomes possible to drop oil prices and hit Russia, as in the 80s in the USSR. With the commissioning of the Qatar gas pipeline, CA-Europe, Russia will lose the European gas market either completely or a significant part of it - and this is 800 million people.
            Beneficiary from all this mess, only the USA. For 4 years Russia has watched the great "American construction" go on and tried to urge the "partners" to play by the rules. And Iran and Syria do not want to just bend under the mattress covers and lose their share in the future hydrocarbon market.
            Well, patience seems to be over, the “partners” are completely insane and non-contractual, and therefore the conversation went into the stage of action, moreover, successful. The Caspian argument convincingly showed the United States that they have no monopoly on force. Any mattresses will have to consider third-party “share” in their “construction”, and therefore agree.
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            Syria would control the Qatari gas (influence), participate in the construction of the gas pipeline (investment), receive a transit fee (real money for nothing)

            Are you serious? laughing Syria would control? But who will allow her. Does Libya and Iraq control a lot of their oil?
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        2. Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 09: 30 New
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          It is a question of controlling not only production, but also transportation.

          Doesn’t roll, because what did the EU take with regard to gas suppliers? Who will control what?
  • hydrox 13 October 2015 08: 40 New
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    all the same, take an interest in the real causes of the conflict.

    Let it be to you!
    We also understand that Israel has its own interest in Syria. but whether it coincides with the Russian - ba-aa-alshoy question ...
    1. atalef 13 October 2015 09: 45 New
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      Quote: hydrox
      Quote: atalef
      all the same, take an interest in the real causes of the conflict.

      Let it be to you!
      We also understand that Israel has its own interest in Syria. but whether it coincides with the Russian - ba-aa-alshoy question ...

      Are we talking about gas pipelines or is there something to say on the topic? So far (judging by the bulk of the comments that the reason for the war is the gas pipeline), a logical chain leads to completely different countries. hi
      1. EvgNik 13 October 2015 10: 42 New
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        Quote: atalef
        Are we talking about gas pipelines or is there something to say on the topic? So far (judging by the bulk of the comments that the reason for the war is the gas pipeline), a logical chain leads to completely different countries.

        The main reason, after all, is complete control over the Middle East. Interested in this are the states, Israel, Turkey, countries of Western Europe. In general, again - NATO. NATO must stop meddling in the affairs of countries that are not members of it. Give countries the opportunity to choose their own path of development. The unceremoniousness with which NATO is acting will eventually come out to her side.
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          Quote: EvgNik
          The main reason, after all, is full control of the Middle East

          No one will have full control over BV. Very different goals, religiosity, and indeed. Well, how and who will control the same Egypt?
          Quote: EvgNik
          Interested in this are the states, Israel, Turkey, countries of Western Europe

          That is why there is no complete control and will not be, there are too many interests and many
          Quote: EvgNik
          Give countries the opportunity to choose their own path of development. The unceremoniousness with which NATO is acting will eventually come out to her side.

          But this is from propaganda.
      2. Manul 13 October 2015 12: 26 New
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        Quote: atalef
        Are we talking about gas pipelines or is there something to say on the topic? So far (judging by the bulk of the comments that the reason for the war is the gas pipeline), a logical chain leads to completely different countries.

        Don’t bother. You’re not talking about the gas pipeline, but about the gas pipeline. We are finding out the reasons for the war in Syria. And it has been going on there for several years. And for some reason you need to troll us and make Assad bad. Here he is to blame for everything and, and when he leaves, everything will immediately become good.
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    3. andj61 13 October 2015 09: 54 New
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      Quote: hydrox
      We also understand that Israel has its own interest in Syria. but whether it coincides with the Russian - ba-aa-alshoy question ...

      Syria was a fairly strong state, and for a long time under the leadership of Hafez al-Assad and then Bashar al-Assad opposed Israel, sometimes - rarely enough - even successfully.
      Israel's interest is weak Syria. And if it breaks up into several states - Alawite on the coast between Lebanon and Turkey, Druze on the border with Jordan and Israel, Kurdish near the Turkish border and Sunni on the rest of Syria - it is beneficial for Israel. If this does not happen, Israel will ALREADY benefit: over 4 years of the civil war, Syria has significantly weakened.
      For Russia, of course, it would be more beneficial to maintain a united Syria, but such a disintegration would not be catastrophic, provided that the Islamists did not come to power in the Sunni part of Syria. But this, apparently, is extremely difficult to avoid.
      Therefore, the interests of Israel and Russia, of course, do not coincide, but also clearly do not contradict each other.
  • tracker 14 October 2015 06: 49 New
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    I agree with you, the Qatari gas pipeline is nothing more than mythical
  • Felix1 13 October 2015 07: 38 New
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    Well, how then are the gas tankers that China is building for the United States, for beauty? and the sanctions that were temporarily lifted from Iran? By the way, the lower house of the US parliament has already voted to lift the ban on the sale of oil and gas abroad.
    1. hrych 13 October 2015 08: 14 New
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      Liquefied gas will always be more expensive, except for gas carriers, a network of liquefaction plants and pipelines from ports to the final consumer, inland from the EU, are needed, and most importantly, the network has already been built only from our gas pipelines and no one is going to rebuild it, no matter how congressmen vote. The main consumer of LNG in the world is Japan and South Korea, for obvious reasons. So, from the Sakhalin-1 and Sakhalin-2 deposits, pipes have already been brought to the DPRK while the gas is bought by the PRC, in order to prevent the pipe from reaching South Korea and giving direct competitors preferences in terms of energy costs and lowering the final product for the consumer.
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        give direct competitors preferences in terms of energy costs and lower end products for consumers

        laughing
    2. Baloo 13 October 2015 08: 15 New
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      Tankers began to build not yesterday, but more than 100 years ago. They are not eternal, some drowned, others in scrap metal. The late Onansis rose and became a billionaire in the tanker fleet.
    3. hydrox 13 October 2015 08: 59 New
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      then the gas tankers that China is building for the USA, for beauty

      Not for beauty, but for liberaurs: firstly, there is no gas for sale in the United States, and secondly: from other sources, LNG is one and a half times more expensive than Russian gas.
      So Russia just needs to keep Europe’s gas market
  • Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 07: 46 New
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    And at the same time, dear Victor, that America wants to draw a gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar controlled to Europe and oust Russia from the European market.

    Listen, stop writing crap. What kind of gas pipeline, who will invest billions of bucks where chaos and warrior are. Where is the ghostly Libyan oil that so many people wrote about? What kind of gas pipeline is it in a stump, just think for yourself fool And then, following your logic, Russia unleashed a warrior in Syria so that the gas pipeline would not be built.
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    And Assad does not allow this.

    lol
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    You need to be at least a little bit interested in the roots of this conflict.

    Judging by what you write, how it all began, you don’t know anything at all.
  • NEXUS 13 October 2015 09: 26 New
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    And at the same time, dear Victor, that America wants to draw a gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar controlled to Europe and oust Russia from the European market. But Assad does not allow this to be done, which led to his disfavor for the West. You need at least a little interest in the roots of this conflict, so as not to look silly with such questions!

    I will add. Cooperation with Iran, Iraq and subsequently with Syria. Control over the Bab-el-Mandeb Strait and the influence on the price of oil on a global scale, thereby ousting the Saudis and weakening the influence of Amers in this region.
  • Uncle Joe 13 October 2015 15: 37 New
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    America wants to draw a gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar controlled to Europe and oust Russia from the European market. And Assad does not allow this.
    In other words, commodity hucksters from the USA and the Russian Federation, using their states and satellite states to defend their financial interests, fight for the loot for their loved ones, share the market.

    Politicians and the media, who are in the service of hucksters, hang noodles on the ears of the townsfolk and present this battle for the interests of hucksters as a struggle for upholding certain national interests - for some as a struggle for freedom and democracy, for others as a struggle against American "democracy" and expansion.

    And the inhabitants - like the last suckers take the side of their state, working exclusively in the interests of hucksters, who also rob them. They begin to support and approve the actions of the state in upholding the interests of hucksters. They begin to hate each other.


    The national struggle under the conditions of rising capitalism is a struggle between the bourgeois classes. Sometimes the bourgeoisie succeeds in drawing the proletariat into the national movement, and then the national struggle in appearance takes on a "nation-wide" character, but this only in appearance. In its essence, it always remains bourgeois, profitable and pleasing mainly to the bourgeoisie.
    I. Stalin T.2 s.308
  • tracker 14 October 2015 06: 47 New
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    one of the theories, the most unattractive even for the states
  • Baloo 13 October 2015 07: 44 New
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    Wipe the Felix1 glasses. what the Macington macaques do does not begin today.
    I’m a boy, 40 years ago, if not more, I read articles about this.
  • The Chat 13 October 2015 09: 53 New
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    This bastard.
    And oil despite the fact that bandyugan from the so-called "Oppositions" sell oil for a pretty penny to their owners, i.e. brutally dumped. As soon as they began to be crushed, supplies of almost free oil fell, the price rose.
    I believe that as soon as they put things in order in Syria, Libya, Iraq (which by the way the striped Sherkhan and the jackals that have joined him very much), the price of oil will soar again to 100 dead raccoons ....
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      I believe that as soon as they restore order in Syria, Libya, and Iraq (which, incidentally, the striped Sherkhan and the jackals who have joined him very much do not want), the price of oil will soar again to 100 dead raccoons ..

      Shale production will again become very profitable and again the drilling fluid will be injected into the wells to increase the recovery of the formation, the price of hydrocarbons is reduced by increasing the supply
  • Tambov Wolf 13 October 2015 21: 10 New
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    ISIS oil wells, of which the Turks and the United States sell oil for 20 bucks a barrel. They will bomb and oil for 80 bucks. This has long been clear to everyone.
  • Tatar 174 13 October 2015 06: 25 New
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    The opinion of the Russians-it was necessary to crush this bastard in the bud !!! It is a pity we were not cat to this. But now you need to take the bull by the horns.

    As they say, better later than never, that's right - you need to push even in the toilet, as the classic said.
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    If we want to sell our oil and gas to Europe.

    So far, yes, we have to, but we must categorically refuse this dependence, oil derivatives inside the country must be sold at prices at least half the price than today. This will be a giant breakthrough in development and industry and trade, and it will pull everything else along with it.
  • igorka357 13 October 2015 06: 27 New
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    That is, only because of selfish goals? Or maybe still something to ensure a safe future for their children and their country?
    1. Pro100Igor 13 October 2015 06: 39 New
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      You see, the namesake. The thing is that self-interest of the states has led to the financing and development of the militants of the Isis. Sensing their impunity, they began to mess. They were inspired by the support of America. Only this chaos is set up not only to destabilize the situation in the entire Middle East, but also on the territory of almost all neighboring states. Well, as a result, in Russia. For this reason, this question is divided, I think, not correctly.
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    If we want to sell our oil and gas to Europe.

    So you were reformatted - nothing personal, just business. And before, Russians were pleasing for justice.
  • Alexander Romanov 13 October 2015 07: 49 New
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    If we want to sell our oil and gas to Europe.

    And who will prevent the sale of oil and gas to Europe?
    And it’s not so relevant now, the eastern direction is developing. But for some reason, how Ukrainians wedge themselves on oil and gas.
    1. hydrox 13 October 2015 09: 03 New
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      Why do you, how Ukrainians wedge on oil and gas.

      Yes, and let it wedge.
      All the same, BV remains a political jam on the path of the multidirectional economic interests of Russia and the West.
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        Yes, and let it wedge.

        And it’s clear, thinking is superfluous, yes wink
  • vodolaz 13 October 2015 08: 05 New
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    I like comrades who claim that it was expensive to shoot Caliber. Well, the cost is very relative, but at least it fights off the reputation and fear of our weapons. The second point: oil begins to grow in price and we earn more, respectively, and the igil merges it cheaply from the captured fields. They do not need to pay back investments in exploration and development.
    1. Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 31 New
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      Shooting is expensive, of course, but the missiles are for this purpose and the money has long been allocated, and the goals have been achieved - helping Syria, raising their own prestige ...
      In addition, the military industry must be loaded with new orders.
      1. hydrox 13 October 2015 09: 07 New
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        Any war is money: selling weapons, jobs, maintaining domestic demand, budget taxes, developing related industries, developing technologies ...
        Remember HOW the States profited from World War II ...
  • Volzhanin 13 October 2015 08: 13 New
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    It would be advisable to keep our own oil and gas. Useful.
    It is better to develop industry and agriculture.
    To do this, you need an analogue of 1937, but without executions. The working hands of Russia have always been needed.
    1. Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 33 New
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      It is believed that oil is a self-healing product.
      These are not fermenting dinosaur remains, but a product obtained during the synthesis of a number of substances in the bowels under the influence of pressure and temperature.
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        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        It is believed that oil is a self-healing product.
        These are not fermenting dinosaur remains, but a product obtained during the synthesis of a number of substances in the bowels under the influence of pressure and temperature.

        And there is real confirmation of this. So in the Staroprmyslovsky district of Grozny, on the site of old, dry-pumped oil production sites, in the deep basements of private houses it began to smell noticeably oil. Drilled in several places - it turned out, the oil reappeared. From where - it is not clear. request
        This, by the way, happens in many - but not all - places of oil production.
  • Max_Bauder 13 October 2015 09: 58 New
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    I have such an opinion about pensions and roads, which, supposedly, could be built for the place where the missiles were launched. Are you so naive? Even if Putin had directed this money to all this, the local bureaucrats would pocket a good half, if not more, of this money, and until the very construction or payment there would remain crumbs, "only to lip anoint." For corrupt officials did not fly from Mars, but grew out of Russia itself, every official came out of the people, then the people themselves are like that, so such reasoning is in the minds of people. Putin’s entourage has so many pockets for the time being, so far he hasn’t come out of good people.
    “So I would become a governor, I would give out money to everyone”, And shish! firstly, you yourself can become the same, because gold sparkles and it’s hard to keep yourself, so try to quit smoking, money beckon also, only a person of strong will can not take bribes. And secondly, they won’t let you, you won’t steal, they’re “removing” such people, silently and silently, “accident”, a man disappeared and that’s all. So EVERYTHING must be changed, consciousness must change in society, from evil to good, from consumerism to creation. Then we will not rely on Putin alone, but there will be millions of them.
  • max702 13 October 2015 12: 58 New
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    Any war should justify itself, the Syrian company is justifying itself both from a political and economic point of view ..
  • goblin xnumx 13 October 2015 13: 32 New
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    and this one there, selling oil and gas ...
  • Ratnik555 13 October 2015 14: 05 New
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    Let me ask you something with this oil and gas?
  • Ratnik555 13 October 2015 14: 05 New
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    Let me ask you something with this oil and gas?
  • NordUral 13 October 2015 14: 25 New
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    It was necessary and necessary to crush this bastard. And he crushes his scum in power, which is pulling the country into the abyss of globalization. But to sell oil and gas - it’s time to gradually tie this up. And if we sell, then at a minimum and only for the modernization and construction of a new industrial base, for the development of the country.
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    we have chosen the perfect time for intervention. The "partners" have prepared the perfect target - an absolute evil and are now not able to roll the stuffing backwards, i.e. to declare the IG knights of good, whom the evil Russians destroy, only laurels will not be given to "partners", but to us soldier
  • Oleg552 16 October 2015 02: 38 New
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    Do not believe those who say that quitting smoking in a week is impossible. There is a special and really working technique that will save you from this addiction in a few days, here https://dmitrinosov.blogspot.ru link Itself could not quit for a very long time, but this time it really happened.
  • Alex_Rarog 13 October 2015 06: 15 New
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    Damn and the people then start to think!
    Although there is no greater lie than statistics ...
  • aszzz888 13 October 2015 06: 17 New
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    Russia needs to participate in the Syrian conflict in order to stop Islamic terrorists on long-distance approaches, and not on their own territory.

    This answer has become the most popular. 64% of respondents were in favor.


    Still, the majority, it is the majority. There is no arguing against simple arithmetic.
    But to breed demagogy - you don’t need a big mind.
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    We began to understand that the West is not friendly to us. The elections held recently in fraternal Belarus clearly showed that people are seeing their light. If a couple of years ago there were many supporters of pro-Western politics, then the events in Ukraine clearly showed what could happen to the country. And now many understand that Putin and Lukashenko are not so bad.
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    In the end, why are these critics of the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria saying nothing about what “penny” it cost and, unfortunately, the opposition to the terrorist threat on Russian territory continues to cost?
    . This was what we had to start with. IG militants were captured in Russia long before the operation in Syria. And that is a fact. Therefore, the location of our aircraft in the Middle East is a necessity dictated by time. That attitude of the West is another. At the discharge of Gaddafi, Russia did not say anything; at the discharge of Saddam, there was silence too. Then they went to the station, and decided to merge Assad. But suddenly Russia intervened. Storm of indignation in the West, NATO in shock. Yes, just Russia does not want to allow militants igil to the territory of their country. This is the answer to all questions.
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      Yes, just Russia does not want to allow militants igil to the territory of their country. This is the answer to all questions.

      That is, oil and gas have nothing to do with it.
      Well, you have a weather vane laughing
  • MuadDib 13 October 2015 06: 31 New
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    The armed conflict that began four years ago in Syria is to blame for the United States and its allies and the Russian Federation, the Syrians themselves, and the EU. The current war in the Middle East is multifaceted and many states have directly or indirectly participated or are participating in it. So you don’t need to “appoint a bad guy”, as the United States does or “look for a switchman,” as is customary with us. It is time to understand that peace and stability on Earth is a common goal. And imbalance is a shared responsibility.
    1. Vedroid 5.0 13 October 2015 06: 40 New
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      All grit is to blame. And the killer and the victim. As well as cops, family, school, kindergarten, government, neighbors and the pope. The logic.
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        All grit is to blame. And the killer and the victim. As well as cops, family, school, kindergarten, government, neighbors and the pope. The logic.

        God who endowed man with free will. Logics. laughing
        Do not bring the blame on the healthy.
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        You have lowered the global problem to the household level. Read my comment again. Especially the last part. If you still don’t understand what I’m talking about collective security and collective responsibility for its preservation, then ... I don’t even know what to advise.
  • My address 13 October 2015 06: 32 New
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    I am against Putin, my friend for. But here we both praise him in vain. Most likely because both are former production workers and we know that it’s impossible to do good things with shit. And strangle him early. Engineers are my friend, not intellectuals.
    1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 06: 40 New
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      Quote: My address
      I am against Putin, friend for.

      “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
      And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi
      1. andj61 13 October 2015 08: 14 New
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        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past.

        All this, of course, is absolutely fair - it WAS - until the last year. This year, the people no longer have the money accumulated in the "fat" years, there are no incomes that allow them to hope for a painless return on loans, there is no way to take a loan - loans have become very heavy. As a result, car dealerships are suffering losses, and many are closing down - official representatives of a number of companies are leaving Russia - hopes for Russians buying their products have disappeared along with a drop in oil prices. Moreover, the decline in people's incomes does not occur at all because of sanctions: the contribution of sanctions to reducing our well-being is small - no more than 10-20 (maximum!)%. The main thing is the decline in oil prices due to a slowdown in world industrial growth and the competition of Saudis with shale oil producers in the United States.
        But this decline in living standards is not a reason at all to revise Russia's foreign policy, as well as the costs of improving defense capability. Over the past 30 years, or even more, we finally have a reason to be proud of the country. And this is the main point. These public opinion polls confirm this clearly.
        But difficulties - a temporary thing - we will survive!
        1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 08: 39 New
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          Quote: andj61
          All this, of course, is absolutely fair - it WAS - until the last year. This year, the people no longer have the money accumulated in the "fat" years, there are no incomes that allow them to hope for a painless return on loans, there is no way to take a loan - loans have become very heavy.

          You need to live within your means, and not in debt with an overpayment, generating inflation.

          Quote: andj61
          As a result - car dealerships suffer losses, and many are closed - official representatives of a number of companies leave Russia

          The air will be cleaner.
          Quote: andj61
          The main thing is the decline in oil prices due to a slowdown in world industrial growth and the competition of Saudis with shale oil producers in the United States.

          Resource prices are autonomously assigned by the naglosaks, at least get out.

          Quote: andj61
          But this is a decline in living standards

          I insist that this is a decrease in CONSUMPTION, not a standard of living.


          Quote: andj61
          Over the past 30 years, or even more, we finally have a reason to be proud of the country. And this is the main point.

          This is what I’m talking about. But it doesn’t reach many.

          Quote: andj61
          But difficulties - a temporary thing - we will survive!

          We need to give birth to children. We won’t survive one child per family, and women who are embarrassed by sex and feminism will kill unborn children.
          1. andj61 13 October 2015 09: 18 New
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            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            You need to live within your means, and not in debt with an overpayment, generating inflation.

            I agree, but not everyone succeeds. I took a loan only once, at the end of December 2013, paid off for a year, overpaid 500 thousand for a loan. But I already won in the price of a car - and decently. And our government and the Central Bank, which pursue a thoughtless policy in the field, stimulate inflation much more. tariffs for the population (including loans), and not people buying on credit.
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            The air will be cleaner.

            The air will not be cleaner: instead of expensive and relatively environmentally friendly, they will buy cheaper and "dirtier", or will ride on the old one.
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            I insist that this is a decrease in CONSUMPTION, not a standard of living.

            This is terminology for professionals. If a person ate meat 5 times a week, and began to eat three times - then call it a decrease in the standard of living, or the level of consumption - for the people it is the same.
            But we can say that people began to eat more healthy foods. laughing
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Resource prices are autonomously assigned by the naglosaks, at least get out.

            If everything was so simple, then this bacchanalia with prices was not. The Saudis deliberately increased oil production in the face of a clear crisis in the world, and especially in China, knowing that this would lead to lower prices and uneconomic shale oil production in the USA. And at a price of 100 green per barrel, shale oil could already compete with conventional and very successful. Yes, the Saudis sold - and are selling - oil in the USA is CHEAPER for a couple of dollars than in other countries. Funny, isn't it?
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            We need to give birth to children. We won’t survive one child per family, and women who are embarrassed by sex and feminism will kill unborn children.

            How many children do you have? I have five (four in the family and one is the sin of youth), and not a Muslim, not a sectarian - an ordinary person. I believe that I have fulfilled the debt to the country in this regard. hi
            1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 10: 06 New
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              I took a loan only once

              It's funny how. You, uncle, have robbed me, and robbed yourself ... laughing
              2.2.3. Credit and money issues
              It lies in the fact that every new loanprovided by the bank to the borrower increases the national money supply, at least by the amount of the loan. In other words, a new bank loan is a credit issue of cashless funds, or, as they sometimes say, banks themselves create new money.


              Quote: andj61
              But he has already won in the price of a car - and decently. And our government and the Central Bank are pushing inflation much more, pursuing a thoughtless policy in the field of tariffs for the population (including loans), rather than people buying on credit.

              I insist that the corrupt brainless communists, who dismembered the USSR in 1991 and imposed capitalism on us, are to blame. They also contributed to brainwashing you. Do not be too lazy to see it for 5 minutes in total - https://yadi.sk/d/OlRVu3b6jW8K3

              Quote: andj61
              Funny, isn't it?
              The main product of the USA is DOLLARS. wink
              Quote: andj61
              The air will not be cleaner: instead of expensive and relatively environmentally friendly, they will buy cheaper and "dirtier", or will ride on the old one.

              You come from today's Wishlist imposed on you. laughing I don’t care, dear edition, when a herd of morons stick out in traffic jams arranged by them, cursing ... the authorities. fool laughing
              Quote: andj61
              If a person ate meat 5 times a week, and began to eat three times - then call it a decrease in the standard of living, or the level of consumption - for the people it is the same.

              This is called POST. And he only adds health, that is - increases the standard of living. laughing
              Quote: andj61
              I have five (four in the family and one is the sin of youth), and not a Muslim, not a sectarian - an ordinary person. I believe that I have fulfilled the debt to the country in this regard.

              Well done, but this is not an isolated case. And it’s too late for me, my grandchildren are already growing.
              1. andj61 13 October 2015 10: 30 New
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                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                And it’s too late for me, my grandchildren are already growing.

                My grandchildren and I are growing - already four. And it was necessary to have children in due time, and now only remains - to throw slogans!
                Or maybe there is still gunpowder in the powder flasks and berries in the buttocks? wink
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                You come from today's Wishlist imposed on you. laughing I don’t care, dear edition, when a herd of morons stick out in traffic jams arranged by them, cursing ... the authorities.

                Actually, you come from Wishlist. Try to get a person who has already traveled by car to ride on public transport! winked I strongly doubt that you will succeed. request
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                I insist that the corrupt brainless communists, who dismembered the USSR in 1991 and imposed capitalism on us, are to blame.

                Sales Communists - I agree with this - did it 24 years ago Of course, they alone are to blame for the current inflation! bully
                I agree with you - corrupt communists are to blame for many things, but blaming them for all the current troubles is too much! negative
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                  Or maybe there is still gunpowder in the powder flasks and berries in the buttocks?

                  Need to give birth to young.
                  Here the woman clearly explains when white humanity began to die out http://domestic-lynx.livejournal.com/23214.html
                  This is a problem for all countries affected by scientific and technological progress.

                  Quote: andj61
                  Try to get a person who has already traveled by car to ride on public transport! winked Very much I doubt that you will succeed. request

                  I will even say more, I walk on foot when I have a car. At 10km + per day, more often and I like it, the further, the more. What I wish you to do of your own free will, as I do, and not for medical reasons, like the vast majority.

                  Quote: andj61
                  I agree with you - corrupt communists are to blame for many things, but blaming them for all the current troubles is too much!

                  So, in fact, the USSR was then divided and the causes of all ills come from there.
                  Today, Russia has restored the status of a superpower, but this is not a problem.
            2. asiat_61 13 October 2015 10: 52 New
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              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              I insist that this is a decrease in CONSUMPTION, not a standard of living.
              This is terminology for professionals. If a person ate meat 5 times a week, and began to eat three times - then call it a decrease in the standard of living, or the level of consumption - this is the same for the people .... This is verbiage. Life has become worse, we are not dying of hunger, but? whatever, real incomes have fallen. The blame is not on oil prices and sanctions, but on a liberal government. And yet, I think we’ll break through.
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                Quote: asiat_61
                If a person ate meat 5 times a week, and began to eat three times - then call it a decrease in the standard of living, or the level of consumption - for the people it is the same .... This is verbiage

                good
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                If a person ate meat 5 times a week, but began to eat three times

                This is POST and it goes for the benefit of fasting, which means it improves the standard of living. But you will not believe that meat is a direct cause of cancer.

                Quote: asiat_61
                It’s not the oil prices and sanctions that are to blame, but the liberal government. And yet, I think we’ll break through.

                If Russia in 1991, corrupt brainless communists had not entered Russia into the world economy, I would have agreed with you. And so, alas and ah.
                You can only scold.
        2. AlexSK 13 October 2015 09: 01 New
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          Quote: andj61
          This year, the people no longer have the money accumulated in the "fat" years, there are no incomes that allow them to hope for a painless return on loans, there is no way to take a loan - loans have become very heavy. As a result, car dealerships are suffering losses, and many are closing down - official representatives of a number of companies are leaving Russia - hopes for Russians buying their products have disappeared along with a drop in oil prices

          C'mon, this year I got even more cars in the yard in the evening I went through altogether, not really everything was forced. And, in general, everything in traffic jams in the city, and on any day of the week, including weekends. I live in Krasnoyarsk.
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            C'mon, this year I got even more cars in the yard in the evening I went through altogether, not really everything was forced. And, in general, everything in traffic jams in the city, and on any day of the week, including weekends. I live in Krasnoyarsk.

            Yes, you are Putin's agent and associate of VseDoFeN !!! laughing
      2. Was mammoth 13 October 2015 08: 45 New
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        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past.

        And here is a vivid example against the background of "pinching" pensioners and other people:
        "The Ministry of Finance proposed to double the salaries of State Duma employees."
        https://news.mail.ru/politics/23610709/?frommail=1
        Inaccuracy crept in. It would be necessary:
        "Today, under Putin, A PART OF the people in Russia lives as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past."
        Active actions in Syria, and not only Russia, were pushed by the so-called partners.
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          Quote: Was Mammoth

          "The Ministry of Finance proposed to double the salaries of State Duma employees."
          https://news.mail.ru/politics/23610709/?frommail=1
          Inaccuracy crept in. It would be necessary:
          "Today, under Putin, A PART OF the people in Russia lives as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past."

          That is, do you think that the courtyards of Russian cities were scored exclusively by the State Duma? wassat

          Quote: Was Mammoth
          Active actions in Syria, and not only Russia, were pushed by the so-called partners.

          Everything in the world is interconnected and interdependent. wink
          1. Was mammoth 13 October 2015 09: 41 New
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            That is, do you think that the courtyards of Russian cities were scored exclusively by the State Duma? wassat

            -Living in debt is not good. How many cars were bought on credit?
            -Of the machines, of course, you can add more telephones, computers, refrigerators, the use of sewers .... However, in the XXI century we live. This is not an indicator of well-being, but an indicator of technological development.
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              -Living in debt is not good. How many cars were bought on credit?

              A lot of. Ask Rosstat.

              Quote: Was Mammoth
              However, in the XXI century we live. This is not an indicator of well-being, but an indicator of technological development.

              There are loot - there are purchases. No dough - no purchases. Able to repay a loan with an overpayment - there is a loan, not able to - there is no loan.
              Do not build illusions, they will not bring to good.
              1. Was mammoth 13 October 2015 13: 46 New
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                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Do not build illusions, they will not bring to good.

                I do not build illusions, rather the opposite. I remember better times.
                Quote: VseDoFeNi

                “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past.

                This is just an illusion.
                1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 15: 16 New
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                  Quote: Was Mammoth
                  This is just an illusion.

                  So again, CAREFULLY read.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                  And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi
      3. Bekas1967 13 October 2015 09: 21 New
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        You can repeat it at least a thousand times, only people will not become smarter in economic terms. Because they overpay the predatory interest. Banks rob the population, make money and live richly ... Average pension is 8 thousand rubles. Rich ??? Fat from 5 to 8 thousand rubles. And eat from the garden ... so who lives richly? people? or businessmen ... a teacher in a rural school will get a? doctor in a clinic? But the manager and Gazprom at least 100t., It's not like that! The people live poorly, this is where they are born, the prisons are full, there is no one to work at the construction site (gastras agree for 40t.) How many men are security guards, youth telephony sells and home appliances .... but what am I talking about? let’s launch rockets! here’s the joy))) it’s necessary for the people to show a movie about it, from morning till night on TV. They fought in Afghanistan without PR. He was not needed. They got involved in Ifo-wars.
        1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 13: 14 New
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          So. Again...
          In 1991, corrupt brainless communists destroyed our country for the second time in the last century. The political system was changed to CAPITALIST. In the 90s, banks, mineral resources, industry, the media, etc. were seized on Western money.

          “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this are courtyards of Russian cities clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
          And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

          Once again. If you are not able to repay the loan, no one will give it to you. Bankers are scum, but not !!!
  • Same lech 13 October 2015 06: 38 New
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    Less than 1% of the 1600 respondents in 46 regions of the Russian Federation said they were to blame for everything ... Russia.


    Every family has its black sheep.

    This one percent will spit on your plate of borscht and will be pleased that you have done something for the sake of Western democracy.
  • Reptiloid 13 October 2015 06: 38 New
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    Western countries are not so friendly. It’s quite the opposite. After all, they voluntarily surround the Russian Federation with military bases. But now it turned out that the Russian Federation is much higher than all this fuss. No one expected such an answer from the Russian Federation! I am proud that this happened!
    Quote: aszzz888
    Russia needs to participate in the Syrian conflict in order to stop Islamic terrorists on long-distance approaches, and not on their own territory.

    This answer has become the most popular. 64% of respondents were in favor.


    Still, the majority, it is the majority. There is no arguing against simple arithmetic.
    But to breed demagogy - you don’t need a big mind.
  • Oman 47 13 October 2015 06: 38 New
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    The article is a plus.
    I liked the questions and answers at the end of the article.
    Arguments against the CURVED flawed sophistry of white-winged liberandons.
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    The decision that Assad decided to help is certainly good. Now the main thing is not to abandon this venture as in Afghanistan, but to bring it to a victorious end.
  • Nymp 13 October 2015 06: 55 New
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    1% of those who answered that Russia is to blame are most likely not Russians at all. You didn’t check your passports. Or are they liberalists.
  • sergeyzzz 13 October 2015 06: 56 New
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    A whole percentage of the population are complete traitors!
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      A whole percentage of the population are complete traitors!

      In fact, there are more traitors :: liberal-consumptions somewhere around 8-10% of the total population
  • Servla 13 October 2015 06: 57 New
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    Hooray! they shouted.
    We are stronger than all - echoed others.
    But two consecutive revolutions quietly crept in, first of February, then of October.
    Give Gd that this does not happen now.

    Well this is not our war. Not ours.
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      Well this is not our war. Not ours.


      But I don’t agree with you .... these little children in SYRIA are preparing for bombings in our cities and it may happen that one of them turns out to be near my or your home ..... and this is our war.
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        Tell me, how can these little children in Syria get to us, taking into account the fact that we have no borders with this state? And to suppress those who wish, We have competent authorities. So, in my opinion, the arguments are unconvincing. If you draw parallels with history, then in the 14th year, Nikolash was also supported be healthy, including people who disagreed with his policy, but in the end - it turned into what turned out to be.
        The only thing is that I would not want my opinion to be confused with the opinion of a liberal-minded person, for such a shame it becomes.
        1. Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 46 New
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          The Syrians got to Germany, even the sea didn’t stop them.
          Well, the story of Tsar Nikolai is not as simple as it seems. The revolutionary sentiments have been hatched by the Russian intelligentsia for decades.
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          Quote: Servla
          Tell me, how can these little children in Syria get to us, taking into account the fact that we have no borders with this state?

          We have a huge melon in the border - the Turkish section. And Turkey is the nursing mother of ISIS. Draw conclusions.
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          Quote: Servla
          If we draw parallels with history, then in the 14th year Nikolasha

          You Volosh first learn to respect people, especially those killed by conspiracy of the western ushlepok. By the way, they do not disdain these methods at present.
        4. wanderer_032 13 October 2015 12: 24 New
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          Quote: Servla
          Tell me, how can these little children in Syria get to us, taking into account the fact that we have no borders with this state? And to suppress those who wish, We have competent authorities.


          Which do not enough so that "willing", did not get here.
          And then all sorts of "refugees" from the Middle East are already climbing through Siberia and the Urals. Moreover, they are "discovered" only when they themselves come to the FMS ... lol
          And how does this fit with the expressions: Border on the lock? Or: Is the border sacred and untouchable? It turns out that it is not "locked" and not "sacred and untouchable" ...
          What can you say about this?
        5. Karavan-150 13 October 2015 16: 46 New
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          The parcel laughing Well, think for yourself ?!
      2. Maksus 13 October 2015 08: 18 New
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        Ku Klux Klan is back !!!
      3. Ratnik555 13 October 2015 14: 50 New
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        Such children and parents in our country are enough without Syria. Internal problems must be dealt with. This is not our war.
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        Such children and parents in our country are enough without Syria. Internal problems must be dealt with. This is not our war.
    2. crazy_fencer 13 October 2015 07: 33 New
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      Now it’s not 1917 and not even 1941. And the concept of “not our war” long ago has sunk into oblivion. You can’t sit behind your fence. In this regard, I really liked the expression in one of the articles published here: "Every ISIS fighter, regardless of nationality, destroyed by our weapons in Syria, will no longer kill Russians in Russia."
      1. Servla 13 October 2015 08: 12 New
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        Russians in Russia are killed by Ukrainians. (I’m talking about the Russian spring and the DNI with the LC). Why are we not showing our strength there?
        1. VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 08: 22 New
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          Quote: Servla
          Russians in Russia are killed by Ukrainians. (I’m talking about the Russian spring and the DNI with the LC). Why are we not showing our strength there?

          Ukrainian, this is a very stupid Russian. Do not believe? Then tell me, a tiger born in a pigsty will become a pig or will it remain a tiger? wink
        2. AlexSK 13 October 2015 09: 05 New
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          Russians in Ukraine are killed by Russians who were brainwashed or forced to call for fratricidal war. And all this is done under the leadership of the Jewish elite, led by Petya Valtsman.
    3. Servla 13 October 2015 08: 11 New
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      Well, in principle, expected ...
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        it doesn’t smell like pluralism !!! request
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      I can’t put a plus or a minus ... I completely agree with the first part, but with the second ... Maybe the war is not ours, but the training ground and the bridgehead are ours!
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      8 (sad. So zamusunuvat ...
  • Retvizan 8 13 October 2015 07: 05 New
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    Personally, I love my Motherland Russia, I am proud of it and its successes, I consider it a great world power!
    I don’t like it when some not-so-big figures begin to rank Russia as worthless, regional powers!
    Events in the Middle East are geopolitics, and I like that we participate in these events (which means we defend our interests).
    But this is my opinion, it is probably closer to someone so that we do not protrude, and a piece of parmizan is held in his hands and there is no greater problem in the country than the legalization of same-sex marriage.
  • afrikanez 13 October 2015 07: 07 New
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    Less than 1% of the 1600 respondents in 46 regions of the Russian Federation said they were to blame for everything ... Russia.
    And these people live in Russia and are considered Russians. Nothing patriots .... sad
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      Well, there’s the hell with those old saying: “The family has its black sheep” and a bunch of others like that.
  • Mitrich76 13 October 2015 07: 17 New
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    Terrorists really need to be destroyed, and the faster and further from our borders, the better. But I have the impression that it is not only IG.
    In Crimea, Russia acted very softly, politely. In Syria - decisive precision airstrikes and Caliber. It looks like we are unobtrusively demonstrating to interested parties - we CAN act as we see fit. And besides solving real geopolitical problems, we make you think about how it is more profitable to perceive us as a threat, enemy and aggressor and provoke a conflict, or consider a partner and cooperate.
    Well, not in our own territory, we demonstrate hard power.
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      Yes, where is the training ground, and where is the field of activity.
  • parusnik 13 October 2015 07: 17 New
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    But didn’t those who think in these categories stop serving the interests of foreign sponsors of the terrorist infection, but simply start working and pay taxes to the Russian treasury?... What taxes, with 30 silver coins ..
  • 1536 13 October 2015 07: 24 New
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    The dog barks, the cow is walking. All of these await the losses promised by the US Secretary of Defense on our part. And then not barking begins. Howl!
  • Neophyte 13 October 2015 07: 27 New
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    A lot of near-minded people in Russia, in the sense of distributing and sharing to grandmothers? A friend of mine sang this
    "song", but shut up when I gave him arguments for the disposal of missiles and ammunition in peacetime!
    And already, the fact of the destruction of bandits in another country for the security of Russia, completely finished off this "wise guy"!
  • rotmistr60 13 October 2015 07: 57 New
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    Less than 1% of the 1600 respondents in 46 regions of the Russian Federation said they were to blame for everything ... Russia.

    This should be considered a statistical error. Although the liberals with great pleasure attributed to these less than 1% several figures. In each village there is a d.u.r.a.ch.o.k.
  • Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 42 New
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    We have already succumbed enough to the Americans and there is simply nothing left to give in.
    Ideally, take advantage of the Syrian conflict and raise the Arab people to fight the oppressors - sheikhs and princes of the Persian Gulf countries. Then, with oil (with us) everything will be fine. But this is in the future. Now the main thing is to preserve the Syrian army as a large combat-ready unit. Alliance with Iran and the Kurds. Or maybe the war with the Saudis is already underway?
  • vladimirvn 13 October 2015 09: 29 New
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    Question:
    - What city should be bombed in order to destroy ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban, Kosovo Liberation Army, Palestine Liberation Front, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Abu Sayyaf, Babbar Khalsa, OUN and the Right Sector?
    Answer:
    - Washington.
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      - Washington.


      Not a fact - real "puppeteers" know how to hide. tongue
  • Russian_Bear 13 October 2015 09: 57 New
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    Good afternoon, comrades.
    On the timing of the start of the operation, you can talk infinitely much, the main thing is that the mechanism is running.
    Our Hero pilots exterminate this creature on distant approaches. This is a huge result !!!
  • Idunavs 13 October 2015 10: 18 New
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    The readiness of the NATO-United States-France coalition to put an end to the obstacles that were raised against their gas interests in the Middle East is based on the fact that they needed to ensure stability and a favorable attitude on the part of the local population to gas production facilities and investments. Syria responded by signing a contract for the transit of Iranian gas through its territory and the territory of Iraq. Thus, the struggle for Syrian and Lebanese gas comes down to the question, whose resource base will this gas be: Nabucco or Nord Stream?
    Revealing the Syrian gas secret allows us to realize the magnitude of the stake on Syria. He who controls Syria will control the whole Middle East. And after Syria, the gateway to the Middle East, he will receive the “key to the House called Russia,” as Tsarina Catherine II claimed, as well as the key to China, through the Great Silk Road. In this way, he will gain the ability to rule the world, because this century is the Gaza Century. It is for this reason that the parties to the Damascus agreement allowing Iranian gas to pass through Iraq and gain access to the Mediterranean Sea, opening up a new geopolitical space and cutting the line of life for the Nabocco project, stated by this that "Syria is the key to a new era."
  • loaln 13 October 2015 10: 42 New
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    I wonder why no one from this “glorious galaxy” who estimated the cost of economists-professionals or amateur economists who were released by “Calibrov” tells the “old ladies”, why did the cost of a barrel of oil increase by 10% from the start of the Russian antiterrorist operation in Syria? Why doesn’t he talk about how much money this made it possible to get the Russian budget on the basis of newly concluded contracts?


    It’s just interesting why the author doesn’t ask the liberals: “Didn’t you create the conditions under which the Russian economy can be torn to shreds? Wasn’t this the task that was set for you? And now you are angry that you didn’t finish it !?"
  • wanderer_032 13 October 2015 10: 47 New
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    Well, as I disagree with the actions of the authorities, then immediately an ultra-liberal.
    And if, for example, I disagree because the authorities who got in did not take care at least that our borders were better protected. At least so that the bearded do not climb through them.
    It is no secret that, for example, 7,5 thousand km. border with rep. Kazakhstan is not well guarded in order to guarantee a peaceful sleep for Russian citizens.

    Border checkpoints along this border are located only on large roads and railways. Everything else is a wild field. Walk where you want, carry what you want.
    And why for this me for example, to write to some liberals, if such a problem really exists?
    Drug brought from Afghanistan? It is brought. And that means there are holes in the border through which it is twisted to us. Are there illegal immigrants from Central Asia? There is. And how do they get here?

    And in this regard, you can ask yourself the question: can international terrorist elements leak through our border in order to arrange any dirty trick on our territory? The answer is obvious. It may well.
    So why did the authorities plan such an operation abroad, and knowing that uninvited guests could come back from there with no serious measures to strengthen border protection? Maybe the author of the article will answer? Since it is a lot of those who disagree with the actions of the authorities, put on a par.
  • Dan Slav 13 October 2015 11: 21 New
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    VTsIOM conducted a survey. Vtsiom, by the way, is a state structure. Who is included in the bosses can be read on their website. Well, whoever pays, he dances the girl.
    It was necessary to reinforce the operation in Syria with the opinion of the Russians - it is easy to reinforce!
    Give old women money. Like, it's kind of funny even. However, these old men and women created the very weapons that are now used in Syria, and the country of the USSR from the ruins, it is not ridiculous it seems, they raised it.
    Moreover, now the authorities are carefully driving the country into ruins and isolation, and people into poverty.
    Syria project and gas pipelines. No need to think so straightforwardly and simply.
    In the world for a long time except the USA and Europe, and of course Russia, there are many countries. China and the countries of the Islamic world. Resources are a valuable thing, but even more valuable are people and world domination.
    There were wars long ago on the Crusades.
    Christians versus Muslims. Now it will continue.
    Feudalism, capitalism, communism, fascism, Nazism, ... - all these isisms still lead to war. Islam will lead to this now.
    Resources and world domination are at stake. Well, they woke all together this beast. Here and the United States and Europe, and Russia, and .....
    Well, the world is multipolar.
    China is now gaining ground and watching. I already said, sitting on the shore and waiting ...
    So many people a quarter of the world's population also want something. But while their leaders are in thought. And they’re doing it right.
    The countries of the Islamic world are strong in their population and unity. Yes, yes to them. There, in addition to jeeps with machine guns, there are many smart people. Not in vain do we recall philosophers from the East. Now these people think and use their co-religionists as the most powerful weapons. Women of the East give birth a lot, unlike the pampered and emancipated Europeans.
    Directing the flow of migrant refugees to Europe is a good idea. The conquest of Europe without weapons. To the cries of Welcome and snot about dead children. Take care of your children, Europeans! Those who arrived, if necessary, will easily take up arms and will shoot at the snotty Europeans.
    We are waiting for the development of events!
    IMHO!
    For me it was not necessary to shove into Syria and it was necessary to raise our country and spend on our people, and not throw money away on military adventures.
  • triglav 13 October 2015 11: 32 New
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    All these ultra-liberals are nothing but the notorious "fifth column" fed by the same States. At one time they acted radically with such people: they were expelled from the country.
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    Quote: Professor
    I read and precipitate from geographic cretinism and political illiteracy

    Well, if you fell there, so which one again surfaced from there?
  • Algetxnumx 13 October 2015 11: 45 New
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    But this is from propaganda.

    However, your position is strange, it means only Israel can choose its development path, only it has geopolitical, economic and other interests, and you don’t know how to “not dare” others, does it already seem like fascism?
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      Quote: Alget87
      However, your position is strange, it means only Israel can choose its development path, only it has geopolitical, economic and other interests, and for others it’s “not to dare”

      possible, of course, only about gas pipelines - propaganda devoid of any logic

      Quote: Alget87
      you know it already smells like fascism, don’t you think?


      I would advise you (and not only) to deal with terms such as
      fascism
      Nazism
      junta
      genocide
      international law
      and something like that, and then rush with words (cool after all). but they don’t know the meaning.
      Although you can. on this occasion, bring some fictitious quote from Bismarck or Clausewitz (it sounds beautiful, but nobody will check it all the same), then add a couple of lines to the EW and .. for a couple of days, marshal's epaulettes are provided to you

      Good luck hi
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        Quote: atalef
        you can. on this occasion, bring some fictitious quote from Bismarck or Clausewitz (it sounds nice, but no one will check anyway), then add a couple of lines to the EW and .. for a couple of days you’ve got marshal epaulets

        Good luck hi

        good There are several more recipes: to light up among the first comments on any topic, to issue patriotic slogans for any reason (now, however, there are a lot of lovers of these slogans on VO), add a few phrases with pictures that Washington should be destroyed (it may , and rightly - but not 10 times a day from the same person) - and all will be happy! fellow hi
  • akudr48 13 October 2015 12: 34 New
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    As you know, polls and analysis of public opinion largely depend on the question, on the principle of what the question is - that is the answer.

    The slightly dissident almost liberal with a state bias, the head of the VTsIOM did not dare to ask here more weighty and direct questions about Syria, preceding the next survey.

    For example, to ask Russian people what is more expensive for you, Russians in the Donbass or Arabs in the Middle East?

    And if it turns out that Arabs are more expensive to Russians, then continue to ask about Syria.

    And if nevertheless the Russians are more expensive than the Donbass, then ask about the Donbass.

    Or else, to ask whether the current corrupt and corrupt “elite” that is ruling the country is capable of winning 2 wars that are being waged in the Donbas and now in Syria, yes or no?

    The VTsIOM will not ask this, because it is very loyal, although a little liberal - a dissident.

    But everyone can ask such questions himself and can ask himself quite, which is very interesting, what the answers will be.
  • provincial 13 October 2015 12: 48 New
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    garbage, not comments. I read, read and spat. Sorry clever and clever.
    1. orskpdc 13 October 2015 13: 20 New
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      What are you, this is not garbage. It turns out Russia is bombing Syria because of gas and oil. Gazprom and RosNeft are wetting competitors.
  • Algetxnumx 13 October 2015 13: 26 New
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    Quote: atalef
    possible, of course, only about gas pipelines - propaganda devoid of any logic

    And what does the gas pipeline have to do with it, I actually asked about the right of each state to self-determination, and again about every crap, just in the style of “ProHessor and others like them”, I asked a lot of questions, instead of the same direct and honest answer verbal slamming, which creates the impression that the "author" in the topic is the most indulgent and in general, I already said something like "ProHessor and company", you don’t like it here, why are you all crawling and crawling like some kind of maniacs, to live here learn, you need to be more modest and people can understand. Good luck hi stop
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    Quote: andj61
    There are several more recipes:

    You’re probably quoting your experience, won’t be a marshal already, it’s a pity you probably don’t have any more titles, sadness crying
  • Algetxnumx 13 October 2015 13: 36 New
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    Quote: atalef
    I would advise you (and not only) to deal with terms such as

    "Shura, don’t teach me how to live," but don’t like fascism, then Zionism, it’s probably closer to you.
  • veksha50 13 October 2015 14: 04 New
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    "The recent trend -" the cost of the attack carried out by Caliber cruise missiles is more than half a billion rubles - Yes, it would be better if Putin raised pensions for the elderly and the disabled!"" ...

    It has long been noted that the most fierce "concern" about the fate of Russian pensioners and people with disabilities is publicly shown by creatures who are the real enemies of our state, country, and, therefore, these pensioners and people with disabilities ...

    I belong to the category of both pensioners and disabled people, but my tongue wouldn’t turn to say that - give us the money instead of destroying the IS fighters ... Because then tomorrow they will come here to our land, and then it’s certainly like that ( yes no) an increase in retirement will not increase our lives ...
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      Dear pensioner, did you even get into the problem? This ISIS is gaining 30 thousand people by force, there are more numerous groups, for example, the front of an-nusra, which is fighting both Assad and ISIS, considering the latter "rabid sabaks." Who told you that they haven’t come here yet (it’s already been said about the borders above) You need to invest money in internal problems, and not shoot missiles at 2 bearded diggers for the interests of Gazprom. Trust less propaganda.
  • sa-ag 13 October 2015 15: 02 New
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    Well, if you look who would be in plus and minus from this mythical gas pipeline,
    so in plus:
    Qatar - sales of raw materials continuously and in large volumes;
    Saudi Arabia is a major transit country
    Syria - less transit
    Turkey - as a possible transit
    EU - an alternative supplier of raw materials, a decrease in the share of Gazprom as a growl of pressure;
    USA - a decrease in the presence of the Russian Federation in the European market, a reversal of EU markets on itself;
    Who would build - maybe the Italian Eni

    Who is in the red;
    Iran - it is pushed away from the EU market;
    Russia - a decrease in the share of supplies, someone’s business will suffer, and this is unacceptable
    Oddly enough, Syria, Iran and Hezbollah and the Shiites of Iraq will turn their backs on it, it will generally become an outcast in the Arab world, and it’s unacceptable for it to live in it

    maybe I missed something ...
  • Olfred 13 October 2015 15: 12 New
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    Less than 1% of the 1600 respondents in 46 regions of the Russian Federation said they were to blame for everything ... Russia.
    Looks like "these same ones", those who are most concerned about Russia ...
  • Koteg 13 October 2015 16: 40 New
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    the ambiguous decision with the blows of course is still smooth, but if our pilots are captured as a Jordanian ig, on the one hand ig thugs and the beast they need to be solved and on the other those tricks that fought there for ig when they return home with their finger they threaten to be under the stairs at school they drank beer or walked lessons and didn’t cut their heads and give the local imam a bail
  • unsermann 13 October 2015 19: 37 New
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    Russia sent a contingent of the aerospace forces to Syria at the request of the legal leadership of this country. Yoksel-Moksel !!! And why wasn’t such a contingent sent to Ukraine at the request of pro-Russian militias last year ??? Why, why does the KREMLYADI defend the Alavites and abandon their own - RUSSIAN Donbass ??? Why, damn it, and ???

    The answer is rather simple: an uncle arrived from Switzerland with a suitcase and showed which of our eblyats how much and where the dough is kept from them. If you do not want to lose this very loot, do not pop into Ukraine. And our participation in Syria is beneficial to them rather than to us ... No one, after all, this time did not come with a suitcase ...
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    Quote: north
    Quote: ssn18
    "... it was necessary to crush this bastard in the bud !!!"

    I would add: "and those who gave birth to this bastard."

    Blow to ISIS headquarters?

    There is little and tactical, probably ... You need to take some Malaysian 747 thread, stuff it with the Dutch, in half with Ci4, or more interestingly and calmly plant it right in the center .. And then a year and a half then conduct an investigation into the failed landing, such as the length of the runway was not enough. .. it was better to teach Papuan pilots .. and not to smoke in the cockpit .. In general, Langley is a little out of place ... From there, everything is evil.
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      Better immediately like this http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/084/ifxi238.jpg
  • Ratnik555 13 October 2015 21: 11 New
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    Someone all the same can clearly explain why we should fight in Syria? Or just the replica “we’ll kill everyone in the outhouse” evokes positive emotions here, especially in people and the machine is never in their hands.
    1. NEXUS 13 October 2015 21: 36 New
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      Quote: Ratnik555
      Someone all the same can clearly explain why we should fight in Syria? Or just the replica “we’ll kill everyone in the outhouse” evokes positive emotions here, especially in people and the machine is never in their hands.

      You take and take a look at ISIS plans, and what territory they want to include in their Caliphate. The second is that Russia does not need a war on its territory at all, and therefore we beat ghouls in Syria, and not on the banks of the Volga. And third, ask a simple and understandable question: WHOM IS LUCKY BENEFIT AND FOR WHAT?
      1. Ratnik555 13 October 2015 22: 15 New
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        1) Making plans and implementing them is a big difference. Our country also at one time made plans for the victory of the world revolution. 2) For war on foreign territory, you need to reliably cover the rear. Provide confident anti-terrorism protection of the population within the country. Reliably control borders, etc. Are you sure that we have it at the proper level? 3) But this is the most interesting ... who benefits from writing off huge funds for the war? The population is asked to tighten their belts ... and at the same time double the salaries of the State Duma deputies. The second person in the country writes an article like "How will we live the Rasseians? In the conditions of the crisis and he does not give an answer to more than one question ... but you have Syria and look
  • Homegoblin 13 October 2015 22: 11 New
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    I want to be afraid ;-) .... this video as a voting option did not offer? request

  • gammipapa 13 October 2015 22: 15 New
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    And if the fifth column had been cleaned up, then there was no 1% against. Good Putin, everything somehow pulls with this issue.
    After all, how many slops really pour on power paid or just stupid people, and pour it publicly in social networks and TV.
    Then I rummaged through classmates and a note accidentally fell into my eyes, one fool very violently scolding our current mayor, for bad roads, for lack of light, and all that he stole the bastard. A crowd of people assenting to it, and yes, what a bastard, he plundered everything, it would be better if the old women gave a pension. .. And everything would be fine if I had not grown up with this mayor, studied and did not consider him my friend. And then I definitely know that he is just a genius and clever, he achieved everything with his hump, certainly not a thief, and for pride he does everything possible and impossible. But how to shut up such people who either pursue their goals or are just as stupid as a cork ...
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      Are your roads really good and bright?
  • serg2108 13 October 2015 23: 58 New
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    hollow bearded .... it is necessary in full ...!
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      hollow bearded .... it is necessary in full ...!


      And remember - no aggression! Beat and smile ...
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  • Maks2169 14 October 2015 00: 23 New
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    In vain you argue here, if we got involved in this conflict, then we will bring it to the end. We did not start it, but we will bring this situation to its logical end. We will put things in order and bring peace to this region.
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    All this is great! Crush the terrorists so that no one remembers the outskirts! So that on the first and second channel the news anchors (hiding from laughing and shooting shooters nowhere) broadcast their reports from Syria. So that spice does not poison children in kindergarten. So that pensioners are not thrown until 2016 and never at all. Weather commentators have not tempted you to go to Turkey to have a rest ... But they won’t build a gas pipeline? Okay, drove through! One thought does not leave, I ask specialists to explain how OFAB250 can so “hit" so precisely? Reset, and then? Stupidly flies, and on you right in the window ...?
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  • Insurgent LC 14 October 2015 02: 26 New
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    something like this approximately