Belarus is not jumping

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The Central Election Commission of Belarus has summed up the preliminary results of the presidential elections after processing 98 with more than one percent of the ballots. Despite the fact that the head of the CEC of the Republic of Belarus, Lydia Yermoshina, insists that the result should be regarded as preliminary, the result of the elections is clear. The victory is once again celebrated by Alexander Lukashenko with a large margin, with which we congratulate him. The CEC, meanwhile, is counting results from foreign polling stations, including Russian ones.

Of the more than 6,1 million voters who came to the polls, about the current President of the Republic of Belarus gave their votes to about 5,1 million Belarusian citizens. This is almost 83,5%. If the item “against all” could be considered a real candidate, then he would take the second place in the voting with 6,4% of votes. Ticked in the box "against all" put, as many as, 390,4 thousand voters. This is about the same as how many (in total) live in the city of Mogilyov - the third (after Minsk and Gomel) in the population of the city of Belarus.

The three candidates who participated in the elections besides the current president did not get at all and 10% of votes. 4,42% of voters (about 270 thousand people) voted for Tatiana Korotkevich, 3,32% (202,3 thousand) for Sergey Gaidukevich, 1,67% (slightly more than 100 thousand) for Nikolai Ulakhovich. These results are demonstrated at turnout in 87,2%.

Infographics from the Belarusian Information Agency BelTA:

Belarus is not jumping


The statement of the head of the Central Election Commission of Belarus, Lydia Yermoshina (published on the BelTA channel on YouTube):



Ms. Korotkevich announced that she did not trust the results of the CEC, noting that she would expect data from observers. According to the loser candidate, she “knows for sure” that 15% of voters voted for her in Mogilev, and even more 20% in Grodno. Korotkevich said she did not intend to congratulate Lukashenko on winning the election. The lady, apparently, does not know how to play with dignity, and is trying to challenge obvious things.

Korotkevich on the air Euroradio:

We are waiting for the results of observations. They were not equal for all candidates. The conditions in the media were not equal. Conditions were not equal in the field. The whole country was not as liberal as Minsk. These were transparent non-democratic elections. We did not work to legitimize the regime, but worked on the need for change, but with power they are impossible. We should now put a comma as soon as possible, parse the flights, write a complaint. And we will take the next step.


Ms. Korotkevich’s next step, in her own words, is pickets and fundraising for campaigning.

Despite the violent reaction (which was predicted) on behalf of opposition candidates (especially the same Ms. Korotkevich), the elections were declared to be held.

International observers did not record any flagrant violations that could affect the final result. It should be added here that the interest of the observation corps in the presidential elections in the Republic of Belarus was enormous - about 40 thousands of registered observers from dozens of countries around the world.

Congratulations on the victory in the election of Alexander Lukashenko sent President Vladimir Putin. Message from the Kremlin press service:
The head of the Russian state congratulated his colleague with a convincing victory in the election of the President of the Republic of Belarus. It was noted that the voting results demonstrated A. Lukashenko’s wide support by the Belarusian society.
The President of Russia stressed the readiness to continue the intensive dialogue and joint work on building up the entire complex of bilateral relations and interaction within the framework of integration structures in the Eurasian space.


President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev, President of Armenia Serzh Sargsyan, head of Kyrgyzstan Almazbek Atambayev, Chairman of the PRC Xi Jinping, leaders of other countries of the world sent their congratulations to Alexander Lukashenko.

Brussels sent a peculiar variant of congratulations to Alexander Lukashenko. The European Union announced a "temporary" (for the time being 4 months), the lifting of sanctions against Belarus. Statement by French Secretary of State for International Affairs Arlem Desira (quote RIA News):

We made a decision in the light of the release of several political prisoners and after the elections, which took place in a reconciled atmosphere, although we are waiting for the report of the observers to have a more complete solution. The decision taken is to simultaneously have the opportunity to extend the sanctions against Belarus, but to suspend their action in order to promote respect for human rights, democracy, and the principles of the rule of law state. Therefore, for the next four months, it was decided to suspend the sanctions, but they can be activated immediately if this is justified.


Something like this ...

Returning to the congratulations voiced in a telephone conversation with Alexander Lukashenko Vladimir Putin, it is necessary to note the addition of the press service, which says that the leaders of the two countries discussed the situation in Syria and other problems. One of these problems raised in the conversation by the presidents of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus is Ukrainian issues. The fact is that on Sunday evening, when the election results were not known, Lukashenko rather unexpectedly turned to the official Kiev, accusing him of “throwing militants with weapons in hand".

The statement of the Belarusian president leads the news agency Interfax:
Do not throw us more militants. Tired of detaining them at the border. They come with grenades, bats, pistols. Let's live in peace. We hold hundreds of them at the border. They cannot explain why they come here. They simply did not think that Lukashenko would be able to close the border (with Ukraine).


At the same time, Alexander Lukashenko added that all those who had traumatic weapons with him were simply turned back by Belarusian border guards, and those armed with war guns were detained right on the border.

Considering the fact that Lukashenko made such a statement at the time that the election commission members started counting the votes given by citizens during the elections, it can be assumed that the president (who is also a presidential candidate at the time) was pretty nervous. The fact is that Alexander Lukashenko himself is well aware of the exact moment at which the most zealous oppositionists can be consolidated on an external team to carry out large-scale protest actions, often resembling outright provocations. According to all the laws of color revolutions (at least in the post-Soviet space), mass actions can begin on election day - usually after their completion and simultaneously with the announcement of the first preliminary results by the CEC chairperson. So it was in “orange” Kiev, it was in Tbilisi when Saakashvili came to power, as it happened in Bishkek several times. Maidan 2014 somewhat out of this list.

Nervousness of Alexander Lukashenko before the announcement of the results can be understood. After all, if on the territory of Belarus before the elections, people with weapons were actively thrown, it means that someone needs it ... Moreover, almost immediately after the polling stations in Minsk (on October Square) were closed, representatives of opposition forces began to gather, and, remarkably, the opposition leaders themselves were not noticed in their circles. Apparently, the lessons of past years are well learned ...

Gathering in the amount of about a couple of hundred people, the Belarusian (if only Belarusian?) Disagree with the flags of the European Union (well, not Belarus ...) and the posters "Lukashenko, go away" moved to the Independence Square.



Neither of which increased the mass was not the question. There are not enough appetizing cookies for certain individuals, and therefore the Belarusian version of the Maidan did not happen ... No "hto not jumping", no "on the knife." True, at least one yellow-blakitny still showed itself in the center of Minsk, although in comparison with its Maidan comrades-in-arms more than modestly:



Armed persons, who had made their way from Ukraine, were caught in time, by internal maydanuts (there are plenty of them everywhere, and in Russia, too) they explained popularly that shouting something about the freedom of Belarus under the flags of foreign states was moveton. As a result, the elections went smoothly, and the first post-election period also passed quietly, even if someone (especially outside Belarus) was very anxious for Batka to flare up.

And at this moment, somewhere near Rostov or Moscow, a person named Viktor Fedorovich must have been saddened, who had not mastered the philosophy that, if not in time to stop the channel of receipt of imported cookies that cause the desire to jump and beat with hoofs, then you can profukat country.
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  1. -15
    13 October 2015 06: 10
    But was the point in holding these elections? Lukashenko would immediately declare himself king and deal with the end, and then his son will grow up. Although no, the point was Europe won the sanctions, it was worth trying and show a model of democracy
    1. +26
      13 October 2015 06: 20
      After Khokhlomaydan it was expected. Although 80 percent is direct nonsense ... what
      1. +5
        13 October 2015 08: 13
        Have seen enough of the "European Ukraine" and think: well, nafig, it's better to live peacefully with our "dictator" wink
        1. +10
          13 October 2015 09: 51
          Yes, you know, in this election there was not a single candidate from the State Department fosterlings, they were not allowed to go to the polls and they were not allowed to squabble, and if money is not paid, who will go to jail for free ?? and people are also not fools, Ukraine has dispelled all the myths about Europeans, I didn’t go to the polls, I don’t vote for Lukashenka in principle, and I despise his lackeys from other candidates, but if the elections were fair, Luka would still have 55 - 60%, all my friends either against all, or for the woman Karatkevich voted, she is the only one of the "appazitsi" for Russia
        2. -5
          13 October 2015 10: 26
          Quotation marks could not be put. They live with dutators not from a good life, but where to go, it’s really better than Maidan
          1. +1
            13 October 2015 21: 11
            Crap and lies that Old Man is a dictator

            He is not a "dictator" at all - but just a strong business executive and Soviet leader

            He did not allow the plunder of Belarus, no oligarchs of Khodorkovsky Berezovsky and other ... ovsky

            In fact, people really voted for him - because they want stability and strengthening of the country, and not become a "colony" of the West and the Fed

            That's how many people don’t take from us, all my relatives, friends, everyone respects Old Man, no less than GDP, even sets an example for our leadership: all the same, social justice is a great achievement and the fact that there are no oligarchs and stratification of society

            I am personally proud that such a republic and such a leader are among the three closest friends and allies of our KZ and that we are also uniting with such a country - maybe we will take something from the Old Man
      2. +4
        13 October 2015 08: 41
        Quote: Sid.74
        After hohlomaidan this was expected.Although 80 percent is straight nonsense ... what


        And what's wrong, actually?

        For example, as of October 4.10.2015, 73, according to the FOM poll, 83% of Russians would vote for V. Putin. Not XNUMX% of course, but also the vast majority.

        And in a referendum on the status of Crimea in 2014, 96,7% of the total number of people who came to the polls voted for joining the Russian Federation. Also nonsense?
        1. +4
          13 October 2015 09: 46
          Quote: Petergut
          And what's wrong, actually?

          Everything is so, only all "democratic" Western leaders have at best 40%. And Batka, Putin and Nazarbayev have 80%. It is immediately obvious that "not democratic" "dictators". laughing
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      4. +3
        13 October 2015 09: 07
        After the fight, they don't wave their fists, so I will not discuss the lack of airtime among candidates, the debates at 6 am and the mass ouster of students, military personnel and state employees for early elections, but still "Radiant" has achieved his goal.
        The EU Council agreed to suspend sanctions against Belarus for four months. This was announced today by French Secretary of State for European Affairs Arlem Desir.

        Washington welcomes the peaceful holding of Belarusian presidential elections, but disappointed by Minsk’s failure to comply with its international obligations regarding free and fair elections

        the opposition just got into a puddle - about 200 people took part in the demonstration, half of whom "passed"

        1. 0
          13 October 2015 20: 12
          the opposition just got into a puddle - about 200 people took part in the demonstration, half of whom "passed"
          Well, and another part "passed" from the southern borders, judging by the placards and flags that have been preserved from the Kiev Maidan.
      5. +3
        13 October 2015 10: 11
        80 there is definitely no percent, there is something like this:
        Turnout at the site was only 67,6%. 1415 people voted, the number of voters - 2093.

        The majority of votes cast for Alexander Lukashenko - 924 votes (65,3%), for Tatyana Korotkevich - 354 votes (25%), for Sergey Gaydukevich - 35 votes (2,47%), for Nikolai Ulakhovich - 9 votes (0,63) %). 74 people (5%) opposed all, and 19 (1,3%) spoiled ballots.
        1. 0
          13 October 2015 16: 15
          80 there is definitely no percent, there is something like this:
          The majority of votes cast for Alexander Lukashenko - 924 votes (65,3%), for Tatyana Korotkevich - 354 votes (25%),


          So what's the difference? All the same "constitutional majority", more than 50%. Let's not kid ourselves. Elections at present are not actually elections, but an indicator of the population's support for one or another political force. It is not possible to draw any percentage of votes and, for example, the difference between the results of the EDR and the GDP personally, although speaking from the same positions, albeit victorious in both cases, immediately allow us to talk about who enjoys the support of the people and who does not. So here you too, well, the Belarusians do not support Western ideas. Because they have not been brainwashed for 25 years, like the Ukrainians. That's all, but +/- 15% with such an overwhelming result does not make the weather.
        2. +1
          13 October 2015 21: 51
          in which section?
          write more precisely. There are a lot of polling stations in some and there was a turnout below 50%, I am glad that not like last time, only 200 thugs, and the most interesting thing is that some "anti-Lukashenka" people did not in principle join the protesters on the street due to the fact that there were people with flags of Ukraine. So they said, "and that I will go under the flags of Shukhevych and Bandera to stand?"
      6. -3
        13 October 2015 10: 24
        As they said in advertising of the 90s: "there is no other alternative." In Minsk, more than 20 percent voted against everyone. That's the whole alternative. The political field is being cleared of competitors, just like ours. Now she has announced elections in the country, so there is no one to choose except Putin. And if something happened to him, then discord would begin in the country, because there are no other leaders.
        1. +2
          13 October 2015 10: 51
          Until 2000, no one knew about Putin, he was simply announced and everything, if the GDP, God forbid, leaves, I think the Kremlin will find someone to put
      7. +4
        13 October 2015 10: 35
        This is not to be expected! This is a pattern when a real president always stands for deeds for his people and his country. A rolling stone gathers no moss!
      8. 0
        14 October 2015 00: 50
        Quote: Sid.74
        After Khokhlomaydan it was expected. Although 80 percent is direct nonsense ...

        Why nonsense? Thank you very much to the Ukrainian Maidan monkey and the western visitors of this Ukrainian zoo feeding from the hands of these Maidan animals. laughing
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    4. 0
      13 October 2015 22: 13
      better a good king than a traitor democrat
  2. +6
    13 October 2015 06: 10
    Congratulations to the President’s comrade on victory, there are no easy victories, but the trust of the people is deservedly honest. Successes to the Belarusian and all the best.
  3. +6
    13 October 2015 06: 11
    Old Man well done, congratulations on the victory in the elections, good
  4. -1
    13 October 2015 06: 15
    Belarus is not jumping
    this is good, but Luka's flirtations with the west are alarming, it may end up "racing". And I can't help but add: Kolya has pissed him off! He just freezes! everywhere drags the offspring with him, sleeps at least separately?
  5. +2
    13 October 2015 06: 23
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    Belarus is not jumping
    this is good, but Luka's flirtations with the west are alarming, it may end up "racing". And I can't help but add: Kolya has pissed him off! He just freezes! everywhere drags the offspring with him, sleeps at least separately?

    Oh! someone minusanul! interesting But father or Kolka? what laughing
    1. +3
      13 October 2015 09: 55
      I promoted, satisfied. Comrade AGLukashenko does not flirt, but leads a policy, judging by the results of a rather successful one, and there is nothing to get into the personal lives of strangers for you.
      1. +1
        13 October 2015 10: 36
        A successful policy? Oh well. Its success lies in the fact that he milked Russia all this time, promising her loyalty and integration, while earning on cheap oil, gas, and now customs duties and re-export of sanctioned goods. In the same way, we fed Ukraine for two decades, and she said such thanks to us. Now the sanctions will be lifted from the Old Man, you see he will also start conversations about European integration. Well, this is to milk us even more.
        1. +9
          13 October 2015 10: 48
          And what is the failure? In that he defended the interests of Belarus? I believe that the main obstacle to integration between our countries is Russia with its incomprehensible economic policy and financial zigzags. For Russia’s money in Belarus, the answer is simple for everything and for the stupidity of the 1991 collapse, otherwise Minsk is interested in sticking to Moscow. And it’s incorrect to compare with Ukraine Moscow’s meaningful policy towards Kiev was never there, and there they will drive the Maidan on the Maidan and Maidan. It’s Moscow’s happiness that Minsk is an ad-hoc leader and does not support his height of stupidity.
          1. +1
            13 October 2015 12: 06
            And so we support without sparing money. It’s just a shame that in words they talk about fraternal relations, but live with you for the sake of money, and not for love. Although, perhaps you are right. In this sense, Lukashenko is completely rational, and we are to blame for the fact that this is happening.
        2. MrK
          +4
          13 October 2015 11: 19
          Quote: Nikolai K
          Its success lies in the fact that all this time he milked Russia, promising her loyalty and integration, while earning on cheap oil, gas,


          In Belarus, unlike Russia, there is no oil and gas of its own. And how would she live under the direction of Old Man Lukashenko, having her own energy resources. This is the first

          The second one. Who is stopping our leaders from milking other countries in the interests of the common people of Russia? And then the income of pensioners, due to the actions of one woman, whom Putin praises very much, has doubled over the past year, in dollar terms.
          Yes, and my pension is the same. And all this if there is a lack of oil and gas in Russia.
        3. -1
          13 October 2015 22: 18
          what is the success? In that milked. And he will milk))) And unlike the Ukrainians, he did not bite the hand with which he was feeding.
  6. +5
    13 October 2015 06: 31
    For the fifth term, the Old Man went.
    At a speech to the correspondents, he famously besieged ukroSMI, and gave examples of repeated detentions of ukrokhunta militants on the border. Interestingly, the media slipped infa that among the detainees there are those on the international wanted list.
    And take off what the Belarusian security agencies did?
    Really let go home?
    1. +2
      13 October 2015 08: 22
      Joke: Mother scolds the young son for having a tattoo.
      - Well, what have you done Vasya. You don’t understand that it’s forever. What did you think?
      - And what did you think mom when you voted for Lukashenko for the fifth time?
  7. +19
    13 October 2015 06: 59
    I have a different attitude to the current government and the president. If I had the right to vote, I would probably vote against everyone. But! Even if you are an oppositionist at least three times, hate Lukashenko even from boldness, but what kind, excuse me, are you bothering with the EU flag to the square ?! There is an official flag, there is a white charvono white flag if you do not like the official one. But why the flag of the European Union? Isn't it easier to wave a German, British or American flag? Or wave the flag the color of the rainbow because you are traitors. And the one with yellow-blue came fool he is 15 years old strict. Go dear from where you came and there jump even to the shit or better jump from the house and the flag as a parachute.
    I have the honor soldier
    1. -2
      13 October 2015 14: 23
      But! Whether you are at least three times an oppositionist, hate Lukashenka at least with a crush, but what, excuse me, are you running with the EU flag on the square ?! hate Lukashenko even with a crush


      Lukashenko has ruled 20 for years.
      He brought up just such a youth.
      Note-people with the flags of Russia as it is not.
      Strange.
      So let it be with rainbow. Tolerant is so tolerant.
  8. +4
    13 October 2015 07: 12
    With the flags of the European Union, these are provocateurs paid by the State Department and others like them. Ukraine showed everyone where these Maidan novices of Europe can lead the country. Belarus and Great Russia is a strong and powerful force.
    1. 0
      13 October 2015 14: 04
      Krajina has shown to everyone where these mayan-observants of Europe can lead


      Showed, I do not argue, where the country leads but father ????
      ??
      ?
  9. +12
    13 October 2015 07: 17
    There was no question of any increased mass character. There is no proper number of delicious cookies for certain people, and therefore the Belarusian version of the Maidan did not happen ... No "hto do not jump", no "knives".


    That is how it should be.
    The recipe is simple: you need to give stars to all sorts of obscure elements in a timely manner, not to allow all these funds of Soros and other NGOs to multiply, and no one will go anywhere to jump.
    And yes, again: you must be determined to disperse any leaps (for the peace of your own people in the future).
  10. +4
    13 October 2015 07: 24
    The ballot paper directly says: “The ballot is recognized as normal and participates in voting only if a check mark is put in only one place ...” Nothing prevented the regions from “spoiling” unwanted votes. This is exactly what we observe - in Minsk (international observers) about 60% voted for the incumbent, and in the regions - all 90%. Of course, I am against the opposition, as it is all about Poland, but fair elections are a guarantee of citizens' love for the president. And we are considered for "".
  11. +1
    13 October 2015 07: 30
    Attitude to the elections in Belarus, Lukashenko, less evil for Russia than other candidates ..
    1. +10
      13 October 2015 08: 37
      Lukashenko, less evil for Russia than other candidates.

      Sorry, this is how to understand? Is Belarus a hotbed of anti-Russian sentiment or do we consider Russia an aggressor?
      If Lukoshenko is a lesser evil, then Poroshenko can be considered an ideal ally for Russia. So what?
      1. MrK
        +1
        13 October 2015 11: 22
        Quote: Baloo_bst
        If Lukoshenko is a lesser evil, then Poroshenko can be considered an ideal ally for Russia. So what?


        Respected. A parusnik colleague spoke about Belarusian candidates. And what does Poroshenko have to do with it?
        1. +4
          13 October 2015 12: 04
          Respected. A parusnik colleague spoke about Belarusian candidates. And what does Poroshenko have to do with it?

          I hope that I understood correctly. From a quote
          Lukashenko, a lesser evil for Russia than other candidates ..
          I conclude:
          Four Belarusian candidates are evil to one degree or another.
          So the ideal president should be the exact opposite of Lukashenko.
          I agree that Poroshenko is not a good example.

          I apologize if I'm wrong.
          1. +1
            13 October 2015 14: 02
            So the ideal president should be the exact opposite of Lukashenko.

            laughing
            Bull's-eye!
      2. 0
        13 October 2015 16: 55
        If Lukashenko..was a true friend of Russia, the Union State of Belarus and Russia would have worked for a long time, but alas, it does not work .. My personal attitude to Lukashenko is a little better than Yanukovych .. and so, the same beggar and a blackmailer .. since he sometimes behaves, allies, if we really are allies, they don’t do this ... Silently Belarusian nationalism cherishes, just in case ... yes, it doesn’t turn around, it understands, it’s fraught .. but no less .. Ah, forgive me, for imperial views .. I believe .. Belarusians, Little Russians, Great Russians .. one people ..- Russians ...
        1. +1
          13 October 2015 17: 34
          If Lukashenka ... was a true friend of Russia, the Union State of Belarus and Russia would have been working for a long time, but alas, it does not work.


          Absolutely!
  12. +11
    13 October 2015 07: 31
    On the second poster "Boycott of Dictature" below is the English translation ... for what? For Belarusians or for reporting to foreign breadwinners.
  13. +5
    13 October 2015 07: 41
    Yesterday I sent a telegram with congratulations to Alexander Grigorievich. Nyahay and then pratsue in this position. Health to him!
  14. +5
    13 October 2015 07: 46
    GOOD BELARUSIANS! AND WHO IS NOT SATISFIED, SUITCASE, STATION AND GEYROP !!! BORDERS ARE OPEN ...
  15. +1
    13 October 2015 08: 05
    It's funny In addition to Lukashenko, the list of candidates includes Rabinovichi.
    1. +1
      13 October 2015 09: 43
      No, there is one more, generally incomprehensible nationality - "Against all"
  16. +1
    13 October 2015 08: 13
    "Belarus does not jump"

    Yes, if only the Old Man himself would not jump. And then he is still a person ...
    1. 0
      13 October 2015 14: 01
      Yes .. with surprises .. request
  17. +2
    13 October 2015 08: 16
    With such a number of observers, 83% of those who voted for BATKA, we can say that the people voted for stability, Belarus does not want to "ride".
  18. +2
    13 October 2015 08: 27
    Belarus is not jumping - and rightly so!
  19. -7
    13 October 2015 08: 32
    Yes, there was no such appearance, and 83% he did not score. Just half scored for the election (since it’s useless to choose), and the second - svyadoya, warriors, cops, brms and others for father. The fact that he would have won on any I have no doubt, but not with such stunning performance. And then the indicators seemed to be voted only by him with two sons and some other candidate.
  20. +1
    13 October 2015 08: 46
    there really is no serious alternative in Belarus for the daddy, is it worth "jumping" and puffing up convincing himself otherwise ...
    1. +1
      13 October 2015 14: 15
      There is really no serious alternative in Belarus


      After 20 years of "rule" - there is no alternative to it, there is no economy either, but "pocket" and not very nationalists were brought up.
      Funny ...
      Interesting results ....
      I'll write my dissertation ..
  21. +12
    13 October 2015 09: 00
    Personally, he himself has been to the election commissions several times over the past 8 years! And read bullshit about the fact that no one goes to vote or about the fact that everything is completely falsified, even disgusting !! stop There is a certain percentage of those who really do not care (finished alcoholics, asocial elements such as malicious defaulters, homeless people, etc.), as a rule, they are few and they fit into the percentage of the remaining unused ballots, which, believe me, are cut off and handed over . And always everything hit us in quantity. No extra or other stuffing. But this is with us, in a small town, like others have, I don’t know. I judge only by what I see.
    People themselves see what is happening around. Whatever they say, but in addition to our channels, we also have a lot of Russian diluted with Euronews. Therefore, people themselves REALLY MAKE their choice, and not under the total control of the KGB, as many want to see lol
    And Europe ate with its war to the past and the imposition of homosexuals, and had seen enough of Ukraine with its hungry paraboks, who had already decently come here and ruining in transit ...
    I myself voted for Lukashenka, and no matter what the zmagars, the dissatisfied and other riffraff sang there, I think that I act according to the proverb "I choose the lesser of two evils" because it is better to have a consistent policy with an attempt to be friends politically with everyone and economically with those with whom I really want to be friends (which is what is done, so that those who do not want to think again sing there ...
    Personally, my opinion hi
    1. +5
      13 October 2015 10: 01
      I fully support.
      Anyone could sign up for observers. Yes, and so more than 40 accumulated.
      Much more for our country.
      1. +4
        13 October 2015 12: 38
        Since such a drunken boobs went, then I will agree with Rurikovich (4) BY.

        The only thing that of the 2 evils choose the least - this is not a buzz. Itself did not vote, it is more senseless.
        + dads: stability, social.
        - dads: Unfortunately everything else. I know our executive committees from the inside, my relatives are in directors of state enterprises. The economy is TIN !!! How to live further with such a bureaucracy - no one will give an answer. If the Europeans do not attack, we will fall apart. This is close to the authorities say. The budget is empty for 5-7 years already, etc. ...

        And how do you like this news http://finance.tut.by/news468307.html

        Well, I’m kind of like a party, and the party’s line on the relations with rapprochement with the Russian Federation is satisfied by the Kazakhs. Clean, calm. But as you look into the wallet, you drip somewhere a little deeper - we are leaving with a capital letter in socialism. The bureaucracy is stuck, the prospects for the development of zero without a stick. By the end of the year, layoffs are predicted. The scope of design (mine) is CHAOS. They do not give work as supervisory organizations. The budget frightens my organization for the fact that they themselves do not pay us for the work done. Here are the accounts frozen. Batteries do not include pennies in organizing yum. And the customer of the projects is the state. And they do not give to redeem in private hands. And how to live on without prospects? Is it possible for our big brother to rejoice. This and bask drinks
        1. +3
          13 October 2015 17: 33
          Quote: Sling
          . But as you look into the wallet, you drip somewhere a little deeper - we are leaving with a capital letter in socialism.

          Once, Lukashenka was pissed off with whining about European salaries. The answer was: "I will give you European salaries, but you will also pay according to European - 100% communal services, medicine, education ..."
          that is why we are trailing in such a "perverted" socialism, because a lot is spent on social programs and subsidies for transport, and because salaries are such that all this is free or at least with ridiculous prices must be compensated.
          There is always a choice - either pure European capitalism, or socialism (as it is).
          Personally, my opinion hi
          PySy. In order to understand how they live in the West, you need to know everything thoroughly, and not what we are fed by those who want to hang noodles on their ears wink And there oh how not honey ....
          And I’ll add - now it’s not easy for everyone. All the same, the crisis ... And the number of sold MAZs and tractors with salt does not allow everyone to live freely feel Alas, we do not have oil and gas request
          1. 0
            14 October 2015 02: 11
            Alas, we do not have oil and gas

            But it’s interesting to read you.
            You crammed a lot of information into a small comment. Very sincerely.
    2. 0
      13 October 2015 13: 53
      Himself voted for Lukashenko, and that there would not sing zmagary


      And Lukashenka is in itself ... This choice is not politics, but a specific person.
      Like a prince from the Saudi dynasty in Saudi Arabia.
  22. +2
    13 October 2015 09: 07
    Lukashenka's victory is certainly expected. And you shouldn't be ironic over the numbers. The fact that the majority support him is not going anywhere. And the so-called opposition, judging by the "protest" speeches (thin), has lost too many of its supporters. Which is what I wish for ours.
  23. 0
    13 October 2015 09: 19
    3015, Lukashenko Alexander Grigoryevich becomes the President of Belarus for the nth time)))))
    1. +3
      13 October 2015 10: 31
      Quote: YaMZ-238
      3015 year the president of Belarus for the nth time becomes Lukashenko

      Set the correct current date on your computer. If you don’t have enough brains, ask your neighbor.
      1. 0
        13 October 2015 13: 54
        Change! We are waiting for changes.... am
  24. 0
    13 October 2015 10: 20
    Loved the last paragraph of the article winked
  25. +3
    13 October 2015 10: 39
    Old Man honor and congratulation for the deeds and words that do not differ from the deed. Therefore, people vote like that.
    1. 0
      13 October 2015 13: 50
      Old man of honor


      Like Belarusian pilots in Syria! Respect and respect! soldier

      Together - we are force !

      Slavs!
  26. +5
    13 October 2015 11: 14
    I have been reading this site for about a year, I could not help registering on a topic that was sore for me, after reading these "comments". First, the feeling that half of the comments were left by more than just readers of the site. Secondly (to treat people who have expressed their sincere opinion), who are you to judge what Belarusians want? Just don't poke your finger at the figures drawn by the AHL. Visit the same Minsk, chat with people and hear the real opinion of people about the king who has been sitting on his neck for over 20 years. First of all, people naturally care about the kind of * opera we lived and live in. I have been working for the last 1,5 years as a process engineer. At the moment, the salary is about $ 290 - an indicator of almost my salary in the first years of ro ​​= work after university. In Belarus, 90% now have paw sucking and making ends meet. The slogan "if only there is no war" is used as a cover for just narrow-minded people. It's like rejoicing that the drunk neighbor doesn't hit you on the stairs, but just thumps behind the wall and yells songs at night. And what, it cannot be otherwise ??? An internal policy aimed at besides stuffing one's own pockets (how much more ??) can not be carried out? Why when visiting friends in the Moscow region, we are surprised to see the same medicines in pharmacies are 3-4 times cheaper than ours ??? Why is Belarusian cheese cheaper in Moscow than ours? Why is EVERYTHING cheaper than ours? Therefore, there is no need to write enthusiastic odes to the Tsar for all Belarusians.
    As for the elections themselves. Personally, my wife and I (registered at different addresses) did not even receive a piece of paper where our polling stations are located. As a result, I had to run at random and look. When I asked this question to the chairman of the commission, in response I heard a frightened response: "Quiet, don't speak loudly." All 36% of those who were cast into voting ahead of schedule (and these are students, the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, etc.) were redrawn to the king. There was constant propaganda about early voting. The chairwoman of the election commission even drew attention to her early voting. Ask yourself why ???????? Celebrate New Year then on December 29 ahead of schedule. Of course, there are people who support the only prisident), but they are not 80%. I agree with the post of a comrade, who indicated an approximate figure of 65%. Therefore, the elections, like everything before, with the participation of Comrade A.G. Lukashenko is a farce. It was natural for everyone to understand. In Belarus, many simply do not go.
    P / S / Not a supporter of Europe, America, etc. I just want to live not in such a deceitful and dictatorial country!
    1. +2
      13 October 2015 13: 27
      Well written, man. You say 1.5 of the year you work as a technologist, and pay 290 ye? Little, of course, but what have you done to get more? How many ratsuh has submitted, how many have introduced, I don’t ask about inventions anymore, don’t you even dream about them? What do you read by profession, what advanced training courses did you attend, how are things with a foreign student, when was your last visit to the library? I would advise you to go to the evening faculty of a university in a close specialty and get a second higher education - this stimulates brain activity and raises the general level. Read smart books on working with people, on team management, on psychology ... In the end, work at two jobs, if you can't turn your brains on, slaughter the loot.
      In short, you need to plow, and not moan and smear the snot. I revered you and I see that you are a ready-made loser in life. So break yourself, act ...
      1. +6
        13 October 2015 13: 38
        Hey, be careful with the engineers. Regarding the salary, I absolutely agree with minipig79, because I myself am a representative of this profession, which is dying in the country. I am an architect of the 2nd category, team leader, GAP. I get 4.5 million ($ 260) and they say that they will reduce it. Work experience 6 years.
        I go through enhancement courses every six months with an intensity. The latter was defended the other day by a radiation safety specialist. Prior to this, the GAP crust and Fire Safety studied. You Oldman either live in Minsk, or ... I just don’t know where you are reacting to at 290 from your salary. Dad said about 10 years ago that all the engineers are laborers. After that, salaries did not increase, but only cut. And there are more supervisory authorities over us than cops on the roads. They are at our expense and fed.
        And if it weren’t for my earnings at night sitting over hacks with matches in my eyes, then I would buy a train for myself and my wife every 2 years. I am generally silent about my corner - on removable huts all my life.

        So softer, excuse the expression, "weirdo."

        Oh yes. About the salary of the rest. How do you like the initial earnings of a young specialist architect of 2.5 million?
        1. +2
          13 October 2015 14: 12
          You see, Sling, I went through all the engineering categories, and led the engineers, so I know this path firsthand. It is sad that the architect of the 2 category, hands. groups gets xnumx ye. However, you can change these realities of life only by your work. You can sit all your life on this RFP, be on the 260 category and shed tears that you are not overestimated, but you can also work for your future. By the way, why don't you have the 2 category? Do you have experience if you have hands? group, GAP, then there are serious projects behind your shoulders, require certification. If you are a pro and know your capabilities, send your resume right up to Russia to other organizations, because today there is an opportunity to work around the world ...
          1. +4
            13 October 2015 14: 24
            This is a conversation. By the way, you can just Eugene. drinks
            I did not receive the 1st category, because jumped into the leaders. That is, the category is no longer important.

            I’m doing something like that to you .. I didn’t respond softly. I don’t have to live with my eyes closed, and I think it is unreasonable to miss the shortcomings of our state sector. Here in Belarus the budget is empty, and the people have the dough in their hands - UUUH. This is what I mean. So it seems to me that the people are hunched over in 3 sweats, and are slowly collecting. But the state apparatus is incapable of anything (this is me about the economy). Old Man, of course, cannot be displaced in any case, but what will we do with ossification?
            By the way, I should not feel sorry for my salary, I normally work on the side http://dom-morozov.by/proekty-domov/all/. And I work just in all CIS countries, including Israel laughing And I’m sitting in a state organization only because of the accumulation of experience. But it’s a shame that I could give 100% to the organization, and not think about how to make money on the side.

            It’s just people, which is simpler, a pity, which for a number of reasons can work only one job (children, caring for parents, etc.)
            1. +3
              13 October 2015 15: 18
              Well, I see that you understand the situation quite adequately and work, I wish you good luck.
              The people do the right thing, that they are hunchbacked and collects, so the whole civilized world works. Old Man maybe would like to increase the RFP, but he does not have objective opportunities for this, and here are our neighbors’s different problems ...
              In short, who does not work does not eat - the iron law of the market, such a time.
        2. 0
          13 October 2015 22: 23
          By the way, fellow countrymen, now in Russia the engineering school is slowly being revived, we already understood what the loss of the engineering school could lead to. The design bureaus, especially the military, in shipbuilding and aircraft construction are starting to pay money, maybe not big by the standards of the West, but worthy of ours. I hope this goes on, the process has just started. I myself regret that a humanist with a technical education would have prospects. And, by the way, engineers and skilled workers from Ukraine and other CIS countries are now eagerly luring
      2. +1
        13 October 2015 14: 04
        Quote: Oldman
        I revered you and I see that you are a ready-made loser in life. So break yourself, act ...

        Waiting for an answer, sir tongue
        1. +2
          13 October 2015 14: 40
          I have already answered. But I would like to add. You see, Sling, my experience convincingly says that out of several dozen engineers in a particular team, they work fruitfully and have no more than five growth prospects. Alas, this is a medical fact, and it is observed in all major engineering teams. All other engineers play a supporting role, and this mass of engineers has no chance of getting into the "people" if they do not take extraordinary measures to improve their skills. I know very few such examples. Why it happens? Long conversation ...
          1. +1
            13 October 2015 14: 42
            I agree....
      3. +1
        15 October 2015 20: 16
        He wrote a complete crap, buddy! Nobody needs your racuhi for a long time. Career depends on kinship and shoulders and not on knowledge. As if this is new to someone. And why is it that people after 8 hours of work in a prosperous country still have to turn around ah? What about the family? What about children? Let the street bring up? Yes, and when then self-educate if you spin?
        You have never been to production or even sniffed this life to teach someone. Your advice is book propaganda from the 70s. Nothing to do with reality. I suspect that you are not an old man, but a young Komsomol member. A man an adult does not write this.
    2. -2
      13 October 2015 13: 48
      Visit the same Minsk, chat with people and hear the real opinion of people about the king, who has been sitting on his neck for more than 20 years. First of all, people naturally care about the kind of * opera we lived and live in. I have been working for the last 1,5 years as a process engineer. At the moment, the salary is about $ 290 - an indicator of practically my salary in the first years of ro ​​= work after university. In Belarus, 90% now have paw sucking and making ends meet. The slogan "if only there is no war" is used to hide just narrow-minded people.


      Well, like, yes. Lukashenka has already "pulled out" everyone in Russia. A sort of monument to myself. He will definitely not bring Belarus to any good. He is not "his own man" either in the EU or in the Russian Federation.
      The guy is actively fighting for personal powerwhile hiding behind the Belarusians ..
    3. +1
      13 October 2015 19: 08
      Hmm .. Something and I, and all my relatives are buying products in Belarus, because there is cheaper + quality :)
      1. 0
        13 October 2015 20: 21
        Hmm .. Something and I, and all my relatives are buying products in Belarus, because there is cheaper + quality :)


        It is called business
      2. +1
        15 October 2015 20: 19
        It will end soon. So eat up for the future. For the sake of containing prices in conditions of inefficient production, they begin to bodyage already. Raw materials are getting worse and worse. We have already felt. Will reach you soon. There are no miracles and you won’t make candy out of shit
    4. +3
      13 October 2015 20: 23
      The fact is that you have to choose from the bad and the very bad. Lukashenko’s problem - this political system is completely tied to it, so 20 years is of course a lot for any person, no matter how good he is. Belarus is a small country and in the modern world, any small country should be integrated into other economic systems. For Belarus, this is the EEC or Russia. Now imagine that in Belarus the supporter of the EEC has become the president. What will happen to the economy in this case? I tell: privatization will begin. Belaz will buy Caterpillar, in 2 - 3 years, he will not be. Maz - will buy the Daimler-Benz type, in 2-3 years the same thing, and so it will be with all machine-building, instrument-making and other enterprises of redistribution 4 and 5. Only enterprises of 2nd and 3rd redistribution will remain (Belaruskali, oil refineries and, perhaps, all), and we will have to say goodbye to agriculture. In Europe, an overabundance of production capacity and agricultural products. Those. 80 - 85% of the economy of Belarus will simply disappear. Yes, Putin’s corrupt regime in Russia isn’t the best, but it’s not forever. So Lukashenko has to spin like a snake in a frying pan. There is no other way out. The economy is mainly tied to Russia. Therefore, when you say what is bad and what you can offer, based on the realities that exist. Yes, in Russia it will be worse than yours. We have almost paid medicine, almost paid higher education. You have a lot of police, but I haven’t seen or heard something of the police lawlessness in Belarus. Your children can walk quietly without adults. Believe me, public safety is also money, you just don’t notice it. You can complain about the official, and they will check him and draw conclusions. This has not happened in Russia for a long time.
  27. +1
    13 October 2015 11: 39
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    Yes, you know, in this election there was not a single candidate from the State Department fosterlings, they were not allowed to go to the polls and they were not allowed to squabble, and if money is not paid, who will go to jail for free ?? and people are also not fools, Ukraine has dispelled all the myths about Europeans, I didn’t go to the polls, I don’t vote for Lukashenka in principle, and I despise his lackeys from other candidates, but if the elections were fair, Luka would still have 55 - 60%, all my friends either against all, or for the woman Karatkevich voted, she is the only one of the "appazitsi" for Russia

    quite rightly said, and such a position with the majority - in the figs for Geyrop and mattresses, but Lukashenko should not go to vote. For some reason, the article does not say how many people went to the polls. 40 percent did not go because they were not going to vote for Lukashenko, and the rest of the candidates were just about anything!
    1. +1
      13 October 2015 12: 27
      So the article is so laudatory - "Belarusians don't want to ride"! Yes, nobody wants to ride. But this does not mean that the mustache is supported by the majority of the population and that in 21 years he has not been a joke of everyone.
    2. 0
      13 October 2015 13: 49
      in the figure that Geyrop and mattress, but do not go to vote for Lukashenka


      correct position.
  28. -2
    13 October 2015 14: 00
    What keeps dad? - on the contradictions between the EU and Russia.
    I really hope that Putin will come to an agreement not only on Syria. All the same, such an "exotic" regime in the center of Europe is not comme il faut. Something needs to be changed. Even the late Brezhnev was more in line with the era.
    While Lukashenko is in power, Belarus will stand in a dead end.
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  30. +1
    13 October 2015 15: 08
    Quote: minipig79
    I have been reading this site for about a year, I could not help registering on a topic that was sore for me, after reading these "comments". First, the feeling that half of the comments were left by more than just readers of the site. Secondly (to treat people who have expressed their sincere opinion), who are you to judge what Belarusians want? Just don't poke your finger at the figures drawn by the AHL. Visit the same Minsk, chat with people and hear the real opinion of people about the king who has been sitting on his neck for over 20 years. First of all, people naturally care about the kind of * opera we lived and live in. I have been working for the last 1,5 years as a process engineer. At the moment, the salary is about $ 290 - an indicator of almost my salary in the first years of ro ​​= work after university. In Belarus, 90% now have paw sucking and making ends meet. The slogan "if only there is no war" is used as a cover for just narrow-minded people. It's like rejoicing that the drunk neighbor doesn't hit you on the stairs, but just thumps behind the wall and yells songs at night. And what, it cannot be otherwise ??? An internal policy aimed at besides stuffing one's own pockets (how much more ??) can not be carried out? Why when visiting friends in the Moscow region, we are surprised to see the same medicines in pharmacies are 3-4 times cheaper than ours ??? Why is Belarusian cheese cheaper in Moscow than ours? Why is EVERYTHING cheaper than ours? Therefore, there is no need to write enthusiastic odes to the Tsar for all Belarusians.
    As for the elections themselves. Personally, my wife and I (registered at different addresses) did not even receive a piece of paper where our polling stations are located. As a result, I had to run at random and look. When I asked this question to the chairman of the commission, in response I heard a frightened response: "Quiet, don't speak loudly." All 36% of those who were cast into voting ahead of schedule (and these are students, the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, etc.) were redrawn to the king. There was constant propaganda about early voting. The chairwoman of the election commission even drew attention to her early voting. Ask yourself why ???????? Celebrate New Year then on December 29 ahead of schedule. Of course, there are people who support the only prisident), but they are not 80%. I agree with the post of a comrade, who indicated an approximate figure of 65%. Therefore, the elections, like everything before, with the participation of Comrade A.G. Lukashenko is a farce. It was natural for everyone to understand. In Belarus, many simply do not go.
    P / S / Not a supporter of Europe, America, etc. I just want to live not in such a deceitful and dictatorial country!

    My salary is "dirty" 166 ye ... It's hard to live - come to us, you will have a rest ...
    1. -3
      13 October 2015 15: 17
      My salary is "dirty" 166 ye ... It's hard to live - come to us, you will have a rest ...


      Dont be upset. Belarus will catch up with you in a few years. By the way everything goes.
  31. +7
    13 October 2015 15: 26
    Reading the comments of the Belarusians, I find myself in 2013, before the Maidan. All these words "we are not against the Russians, we are against .....", "we want to live better ...". How familiar it all is. It turns out that the Belarusian engineer, receiving 260 bucks a month, considers himself offended, having an official job and additional income. This was the case in Ukraine (with a certain degree of correlation) before the Maidan. And so, the Maidan came ... Why are smart people (judging by the comments) are led on cheap promises? Why, in order to appreciate what you have lost, you need to lose it? You live, suffer in your apartment - "suffer" further ... It will not be easier after the Maidan. Turn it over.
    1. 0
      14 October 2015 02: 17
      Why are smart people being kept on cheap promises?

      Perhaps because they are not so smart?
  32. +8
    13 October 2015 16: 08
    I like the conviction of some comrades that if Lukashenko is replaced, then everything will be adjusted automatically in the country.

    I see two scenarios really, and both will not go to the plus for the ordinary population.

    1) The pro-Western president with all the joys - the closure of all heavy industry, the decline of social programs at times, etc. This is the worst option available.

    2) President-protege of the Russian Federation. The result - all the remaining enterprises are bought out by Russian oligarchs at lower prices, profits are transferred to offshore companies according to established schemes (which no one is going to deal with in the Russian Federation, only loud statements are made once the actual actions are zero) - reduction of tax collection inside country.
    The social network itself sags, as the Kremlin no longer has any incentive to inject money into the region + a drop in tax collection.
    There will be no boom in industrial growth, and there is no need to dump the selections from the doneunas site. At least one analogue is closed for each new enterprise in the Russian Federation. There will be no new reindustrialization until Putin repeats over and over again "the liberal economic path is the only correct one." And if the Russian Federation, with its endless resources, despite the oligarchs' power over the economy, can still somehow keep the standard of living, then the coming of such comrades to power in Belarus will lead to an inevitable SHARP drop in the standard of living SIGNIFICANTLY below the current one.

    So, dear brothers-Russians, before demanding from Belarus to become back the "North-Western edge of the Russian Empire" politically and economically, first put things right in your economy and "people will reach out to you."

    PS And by the way, it would be very useful for the Russian elites to take the example of the Old Man - there are no accounts abroad, there are no children in Western universities / on the boards of transnational corporations, and there are no hostile states in the spouses of citizens. That is, in fact, there are no levers of influence.

    At the same time, the overwhelming majority of the economic and political elites of the Russian Federation continue to work to the detriment of the economy of their own country, and Putin has no will to really change this (as his recent statement about liberal economic policy shows). Your elites are not yours, they are headlong in the pockets of arrogant Saxons.

    Of the two things "bread and circuses", Putin successfully provides only the second at the expense of a genius foreign policy. But he is not going to turn off the "liberal dollar vacuum cleaner" that sucks resources out of the country in exchange for freshly printed paper.

    TL; DR: straws, logs, etc. etc. Less unreasonable harsh statements and let's live in peace.
    1. -2
      13 October 2015 16: 46
      Why not discard being pro-Western or pro-Russian, and just be guided by common sense? Here is a tax on the unemployed while cutting jobs in all sectors (including government organizations) - is it pro-Western or pro-Russian? And the arrests by the police of "suspicious" citizens numbering more than three in the group is pro-Western or pro-Russian? About bills abroad, smiled))). Did the AHL tell you personally on a lie detector? Or do you expect him to tell on TV how much and where he keeps money. And WHAT in Belarus belongs to him directly or indirectly. The children have grown up very well and are fighting Belarus together with their dad, why should they go and learn something somewhere. And the surnames Peftiev and Chizh-don't tell you anything? And they don’t bring money to AHL? The unselfish person was found, yeah.
      1. +1
        13 October 2015 21: 03
        You can’t drop everything. It is necessary to integrate either into the EEC or into the ruble zone. It won’t work out differently. There is such a thing - the international division of labor. Not a single economy of any country, and especially Belarus, can develop separately, but must be built into some kind of economic system (zone) with its own products, which should be in demand. Look at the structure of the economy of Belarus. The huge sector is machine and instrument engineering, which is tied to Russia and the CIS. Choosing a UES means losing these sectors and destroying almost the entire economy, because Belarus’s products are not needed there.
    2. +1
      13 October 2015 20: 46
      OK. I agree with you 100%. Putin's regime is a continuation of the same liberal course. And the fact that our liberals are scamming there are reasons for this. When Putin came to power, everything was divided. And which Putin would agree to be just a president without a dough. Therefore, I had to squeeze already divided. And he depressed the Americans. This is Sakhalin-1, when they threw the ov out of there (they did it right, because the conditions were awful on the basis of the production sharing law), and Yukos (Khodorkovsky already agreed to sell the Rodschilds). After that, Putin became a blackout and an enemy of the United States. Only ordinary Russians didn’t feel much easier from this, the tsar and his retinue began to take the loot, and not the Americans. Therefore, our liberals also want him because they feed, including from another trough. The structure of the economy has not changed, as it was the raw material, and has remained. And all these olympiads and championships are such a gentry from the feeling of power, I want to hold the Winter Olympics in a subtropical climate, I want to, the World Cup. It seems that he built Olympic facilities for himself, so he does not crawl out of Sochi. Therefore, his foreign policy coincided with the interests of Russia. But it would be different, I’m sure everything would be like under Yeltsin, the Foreign Ministry would be Kozyrev or his type.
  33. 0
    13 October 2015 16: 17
    Hospadi ... Well, where does the Maidan. The article is not about whether an armed coup is needed or not. It's about our "non-bendable and non-bendable" permanent king. Which, despite any crises, oil prices, phases of the moon and the position of the stars, is directly responsible for the chaos in the economy. Compare what Stalin did in 21 years, what the AHL did. Notice nobody sharpens sabers on RB and is not going to attack with weapons. And why should we be equal to Ukraine, where the people are now even worse and beggarly. Compared to Zimbabwe, we are all kings, but why look at the worst. And the point is not that at my work I get $ 290 and I consider myself offended. Not at all. Irritating wild delays in the salary. And everything comes from the top, from non-payments to the budget to large and medium-sized businesses, and then downward. And through the courts you can stand in line for at least 100 years, there is no money. What, the sole ruler is not responsible for this bottom? And everyone seems to blindly love him and choose. FUNNY !.
    PS Oldman. Until now, the technologist worked as the head of the sales department and earned up to $ 1500. Therefore, do not rush at me with words. As the next crisis in Belarus came 1001 times, the closures and reductions went everywhere. And you know this no worse than me. And now it’s extremely difficult to find additional work.
  34. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 03
    Quote: Olezhek
    My salary is "dirty" 166 ye ... It's hard to live - come to us, you will have a rest ...


    Dont be upset. Belarus will catch up with you in a few years. By the way everything goes.

    Should I be upset about being minus? Or because I have experienced 3 (three) Ukrainian revolutions (1991, 2004, 2014, heard that: "Ukraine is like France", "Ukraine is not Russia", "Ukraine is tse Europe"? It is important to understand that revolutions and coups do not make life better. It is necessary to defend what is already, now. What do Belarusians hear?
    1. 0
      13 October 2015 17: 57
      Or because I went through 3 (three) Ukrainian revolutions (1991, 2004, 2014, heard that: "Ukraine is like France", "Ukraine is not Russia", "Ukraine is tse Europa"?


      You are a smart person, and so you understand .... Yes
  35. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 08
    [quote] Compare what Stalin did in 21 years, what the AHL did. / quote]
    Do you need Stalin? Many people need him ...
    1. -1
      13 October 2015 20: 21
      Lee Kuan Yew
      Deng Xiaoping
  36. +1
    13 October 2015 17: 35
    Quote: Sling
    Hey, be careful with the engineers. Regarding the salary, I absolutely agree with minipig79, because I myself am a representative of this profession, which is dying in the country. I am an architect of the 2nd category, team leader, GAP. I get 4.5 million ($ 260) and they say that they will reduce it. Work experience 6 years.
    I go through enhancement courses every six months with an intensity. The latter was defended the other day by a radiation safety specialist. Prior to this, the GAP crust and Fire Safety studied. You Oldman either live in Minsk, or ... I just don’t know where you are reacting to at 290 from your salary. Dad said about 10 years ago that all the engineers are laborers. After that, salaries did not increase, but only cut. And there are more supervisory authorities over us than cops on the roads. They are at our expense and fed.
    And if it weren’t for my earnings at night sitting over hacks with matches in my eyes, then I would buy a train for myself and my wife every 2 years. I am generally silent about my corner - on removable huts all my life.

    So softer, excuse the expression, "weirdo."

    Oh yes. About the salary of the rest. How do you like the initial earnings of a young specialist architect of 2.5 million?


    The most adequate post here reflects our Belarusian reality. I just need to add that the same cops (whom Lou has bred the most in the WORLD per capita, 7 times higher than the average in Europe) have a salary at least 2 times higher than that of engineers, and the work is several times less .... And there is absolutely no fanaticism of this "Batkoy" among the people here. The actual turnout in the "elections" was about 30%. Mostly only those who voted for Lou came. Out of these 30%, 83% voted for Lou. The rest sat at home and did not participate in this circus.

    Early voting, which supposedly received 36%, is generally an ingenious invention of Lou for falsification. Students from other cities are driven there by compulsion on pain of eviction from the hostel, security officials, state workers and other dependent. Of course, the voices are recorded as "whoever they need." There is no question of control over the counting of votes during early and regular voting. They draw the numbers that Lou needs.

    And to everyone in the Russian Federation who is a fan of this "daddy", I recommend watching "Godfather Daddy-1,2,3,4,5" which is on youtube.com. It was filmed by NTV your Russian and it shows very well who he is and what he is.
  37. 0
    13 October 2015 17: 55
    If "Big Brother" turns his back on us, we will have a khan, regardless of the voices !!!
  38. -2
    13 October 2015 21: 30
    YES HELLO Old Man !!!
  39. -1
    13 October 2015 22: 33
    Yes, after vaccinations of the Maidan, I believe that in all the republics of the former USSR, one can safely no longer hold any elections, just wasting public money. If the state leader rules the country for the benefit of his state, declare a referendum and recognize him as a monarch with all powers. No monarch will rule the country so that his children spit on the graves of their fathers.
  40. 0
    13 October 2015 23: 00
    Live at least a month in Belarus, and you will realize that everyone was tired of the deadlock system a long time ago. Once we were on an equal footing with Poland, but now there is an abyss between us! You look at how ordinary people live there, and not the yapping political elite. At us, 83,49% would prefer the Finnish neutral model for Belarus and it is understandable without the current vertical. Well, fired workers from unprofitable industrial giants would be on the bays, and they would also go back to their farm roots and private shops, workshops, etc. The faster we get rid of soviet and collective farm thinking, the happier and richer our children will heal and we will grab prosperity. I would like to live here and now, and not how this person stuck in the past speaks to us. Pot yarp 10-20 years - got it !! Only hardworking private business and healthy competition is a progressive driver of the country's success!
    1. -1
      14 October 2015 00: 17
      Speak for yourself, your thinking is clip-style, divorced from the realities of the global and regional economies.

      Well, what can you expect from someone who speaks with copy-paste slogans from the charter and other cesspools and unian dumps.
  41. 0
    14 October 2015 00: 11
    Quote: Olezhek
    Lee Kuan Yew

    Minus for the replication of this comrade.
    His whole "economic miracle" lies in the fact that he agreed to make Singapore the capital of smuggling and money laundering of the "golden triangle". Citizens of Singapore, of course, get something from bounty, but much less than it seems to a passing tourist, and many huddle in "social housing" of 2-3 square meters per person (see photo below) with no hope of improvement, because real estate prices are exorbitant.

    Under the pretext of fighting corruption, he imprisoned all political competitors (those who did not "commit suicide"), and due to the limitations of the people's expression and the severity of punishments for going beyond the framework, this comrade far outstripped Old Man.
    1. +1
      14 October 2015 13: 53
      All his "economic miracle" is that he agreed to make Singapore

      He even achieved something.
      I'm not talking about the "miracle" I'm talking about the fact that the state has developed.
      The economy has earned.
      I assure you there is NOT ONLY money laundering. But the manufacturing industry is there.
      Powerful.
      But miracles do not happen at all.
  42. -1
    14 October 2015 09: 49
    And for me, there is more democracy in Belarus than here, in Russia, they have a point "against all."
    When this item was removed from us, I stopped going to all elections (local, State Duma, President), because I cannot express my will that all the candidates presented are "pi..anists" and absolutely do not impress me. There is no such item.
    1. -1
      14 October 2015 14: 15
      Do you think that even if 50% of the population of the Republic of Belarus ticks the box "against all", the president will not gain 80% at the end of the elections?))))))
  43. -1
    14 October 2015 17: 23
    Quote: minipig79
    Do you think that even if 50% of the population of the Republic of Belarus ticks the box "against all", the president will not gain 80% at the end of the elections?))))))

    At least (no matter how transparent everything is), there is a chance that if a lot of people are really "against all", then willy-nilly "those in power" (and they will know the real figure by anyone) will have to think about it. In the Republic of Belarus, the people were at least left the opportunity to say their "fu" to the candidates.
    1. -1
      15 October 2015 09: 33
      That's just from this "fu" the result is zero. The comrade just sat and is not going to get off. But of course, what can be done in this situation, you need to do everything, and not just whine in the kitchen as tired of everything. In this situation, the "get out of this country" solution is also in demand. Himself seriously thought with his wife.

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