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Flamethrowers "Sunshine" recorded in Syria

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For militants of terrorist organizations in Syria, difficult times have come, believes Messenger of Mordovia. Not only does the Russian one work efficiently and methodically on them aviation, so now even the heavy sun-throwing systems "Sun" are being pulled up to the front.


Flamethrowers "Sunshine" recorded in Syria


On the appearance in Syria, "Sunshine" testify published on the Internet photos.

“The fact that this is not Iraq and not some other country where the Sunsheets were previously delivered can be judged by the base: the machine is made on the T-72 chassis, and not on the T-90. It was the “nineties” that became the basis for installations aimed at Iraq, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. Most likely, the Syrian heavy flamethrower depicted in the photo used to be part of the Russian army, ”writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.



The publication provides technical characteristics of the flamethrower: “Mass - 44,3 tons, crew - 3 people., Maximum speed - 60 km / h, power reserve - 500 km. The number of guide tubes is 24 pcs., The firing range is the minimum 400 m, the maximum 6000 m, the time of a full volley is 6 seconds. Type of ammunition - Nurs.

Photos used:
Courage2004 / vestnik-rm.ru
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  1. vorobey
    vorobey 12 October 2015 14: 58 New
    +82
    Bad omen ... said an ideological Afghan

    quote .. “The fact that this is not Iraq and not some other country where the Solntsepecs had previously been delivered can be judged from the base: the machine was built on the T-72 chassis, not the T-90. It was the "nineties" that became the basis for installations aimed at Iraq, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.

    nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 15: 01 New
      +116
      Quote: vorobey
      Bad omen ... said an ideological Afghan

      The Mujahideen remember ... But "Rus" is respected! But in fact, we kill each other for the sake of these!
      1. Vend
        Vend 12 October 2015 15: 05 New
        +63
        After today's prevention of the terrorist attack in Moscow, I think not only the Solntsepeks will appear there. So that brains appeared and it wasn’t mischievous.
        1. marlin1203
          marlin1203 12 October 2015 15: 13 New
          +152
          Great stuff, albeit "inhumane." You’re lying to yourself with a gun “don’t touch anyone” ... And suddenly, bang !!! Within a radius of a kilometer, oxygen disappeared ... burned out ... with you ... laughing
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 15: 15 New
            +74
            Quote: marlin1203
            You’re lying to yourself with a gun “don’t touch anyone” ... And suddenly, bang !!! Oxygen disappeared within a kilometer ... burned out ... with you

            Even Allahu Akbar will not have time to shout ... bully
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 12 October 2015 15: 25 New
              +112
              Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
              Even Allahu Akbar will not have time to shout ...

              So let them feel what that pilot in the cage that they burned alive felt. God is not a fraer angry
              1. Berthan
                Berthan 12 October 2015 17: 16 New
                +37
                Yes, with its official, so to speak - publications; they put themselves - beyond all conventions. A locust flock cannot have rights - by definition.
              2. Arjuna
                Arjuna 13 October 2015 06: 16 New
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                God is not a fraer

                Continuation of the saying: "He knows whom he chooses and where he sends."
              3. edge
                edge 15 October 2015 15: 59 New
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                God is not a fraer

                and will pay tribute to everyone according to his deeds
            2. iConst
              iConst 12 October 2015 15: 51 New
              +29
              Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
              Quote: marlin1203
              You’re lying to yourself with a gun “don’t touch anyone” ... And suddenly, bang !!! Oxygen disappeared within a kilometer ... burned out ... with you

              Even Allahu Akbar will not have time to shout ... bully
              - No, they’ll have time. This thing farts twice - the first time is not strong, but the second ...

              Will be in time the first word. And then, with surprise, their eyes “see” that they are flying ahead of each other ... laughing

              Chet, I didn’t get it ...
              1. avia1991
                avia1991 12 October 2015 16: 00 New
                +5
                Quote: iConst
                Chet, I didn’t get it ...

                Does this mean “not in accordance with the flag” ?! Then for sure - not in that one! laughing
                Probably "at the call of the Soul" wink , and this is stronger.
              2. SteelRatTV
                SteelRatTV 12 October 2015 16: 14 New
                +8
                Quote: iConst
                Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
                Quote: marlin1203
                You’re lying to yourself with a gun “don’t touch anyone” ... And suddenly, bang !!! Oxygen disappeared within a kilometer ... burned out ... with you

                Even Allahu Akbar will not have time to shout ... bully
                - No, they’ll have time. This thing farts twice - the first time is not strong, but the second ...

                Will be in time the first word. And then, with surprise, their eyes “see” that they are flying ahead of each other ... laughing

                Chet, I didn’t get it ...

                Not chesslovo, although it is inhumane, but neighing from the heart! good
            3. Maxom75
              Maxom75 12 October 2015 19: 34 New
              +3
              Died while inhaling?)))
            4. Abakan
              Abakan 13 October 2015 09: 32 New
              -3
              they only alla i bar know how to fuck
              1. PENZA
                PENZA 14 October 2015 19: 42 New
                0
                I have a grandfather Fayzrakhmanov Abdukhai 4 war broke what do you think for whom?
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 October 2015 15: 23 New
            +13
            Quote: marlin1203
            Great stuff, albeit "inhumane." You’re lying to yourself with a gun “don’t touch anyone” ... And suddenly, bang !!! Within a radius of a kilometer, oxygen disappeared ... burned out ... with you ... laughing

            It seems that the Syrians decided to make a barbecue ala “a needle of strong roasting.” I’m sure they won’t forget our people invited to this event with KABs wink
          3. Karabanov
            Karabanov 12 October 2015 16: 03 New
            +23
            Quote: marlin1203
            Great thing, although "inhumane"

            The thing is excellent, but does not agree with the definition - inhumane. It all depends on who to use ... For such non-humans who cut off people's heads and burn them alive, this is still a very easy death for them.
            Although you have "inhumane" in quotation marks, maybe this is such sarcasm.
            1. good uncle
              good uncle 13 October 2015 06: 46 New
              +5
              To increase the humanity, release ONLY moderate Sunflower shells painted in such a light, moderate color.
            2. 2С5
              2С5 13 October 2015 21: 17 New
              +3
              ... war in general is an inhuman thing in itself, and in such a situation and with such enemies it’s not worth the blame ...
              1. kumaxa
                kumaxa 14 October 2015 05: 17 New
                0
                1000%! I agree .
          4. Baikonur
            Baikonur 12 October 2015 16: 24 New
            +9
            Quote: marlin1203
            Great thing, although "inhumane"
            I don’t understand the application of the term “humane” to weapons! explosive bullets are impossible, inhumane, and explosive grenades are possible.
            1. iConst
              iConst 12 October 2015 16: 31 New
              +5
              Quote: Baikonur
              Quote: marlin1203
              Great thing, although "inhumane"
              I don’t understand the application of the term “humane” to weapons! explosive bullets cannot be inhumane and explosive grenades can.
              - And scatter cassettes with mad hamsters in the steppes? Think what you say! (with) laughing
              1. marlin1203
                marlin1203 12 October 2015 17: 04 New
                +5
                Yeah !!! Having hamsters against !!! laughing
            2. Umka1367
              Umka1367 13 October 2015 19: 19 New
              +1
              What humanity can there be when thugs with knives break into your house? Fry and send home until cool! wink
          5. 31R-US
            31R-US 12 October 2015 18: 29 New
            +6
            All of them are Russia "not humane." They cannot understand that the "heating season" has begun in Russia.
            Housing Summary laughing
          6. varov14
            varov14 12 October 2015 19: 06 New
            +5
            It is clear that cutting off our heads is the height of humanism and tolerance, that is why the West is hysterical at our air strikes. Glory to the god of the sun, we will not apply, we asked to deliver, planted, we fulfilled the request.
          7. Ile ham
            Ile ham 12 October 2015 23: 58 New
            +3
            On the contrary, it’s very humane .. First, oxygen will be taken away, so they won’t even have time to get scared .. And then .... It won’t hurt, for sure ..
          8. win
            win 14 October 2015 10: 34 New
            +3
            Oxygen disappeared within a kilometer ... burned out ... with you ... laughing

            Surely burns, the temperature of 3000 degrees, it looks like hell. But they hope to go to heaven. But in their paradise is also no better ...
            Anecdote:
            - Where I am?
            “In paradise, Mohammed, in paradise.”
            - Glory be to Allah. Is it true about virgins?
            “True, Muhammad.” Truth..
            - Glory be to Allah. Why do I have breasts and ...?!
            - You see, Mohammed, there aren’t enough virgins ...
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          10. shed
            shed 14 October 2015 18: 54 New
            0
            now everything in adulthood is not a civilian jeep with a machine gun to ride, soon these creatures will lose their desire to fight, and everything to Europe, Merkel will accept all friends
        2. Snake AAA
          Snake AAA 12 October 2015 15: 31 New
          +11
          Yeah, you need to fry these teryug, they have nothing sacred !!!
          1. Voha_krim
            Voha_krim 12 October 2015 16: 34 New
            +9
            Quote: Snake AAA
            Yeah, you need to fry these teryug, they have nothing sacred !!!

            In this regard, it is proposed to look at the map of Syria and Iraq controlled by ISIS along with oil production facilities. You don’t have to be a strategist with the ability to wisely use your finger on the map to make a small, but very optimistic forecast: in the near future, dissecting attacks on Raqqa, Mayadi and Deir Es-Zor simply beg to dismember the terrorist group, eliminate the main transshipment hub, and major points of production and processing of oil smuggling. As a result, terrorists will remain driven into the far north-eastern corner of Syria, and the vast territory of the country, along with people and resources, will be freed.
          2. iConst
            iConst 12 October 2015 16: 40 New
            +6
            Quote: Snake AAA
            Yeah, you need to fry these teryug, they have nothing sacred !!!
            - Holy - holy! What is the meaning of frying? belay
            If in a pan - this is to the shaitans, but if in the sense of ... well, fry ... - this is in Geyropu ... laughing
        3. olegglin
          olegglin 12 October 2015 15: 44 New
          +24
          After today's prevention of the terrorist attack in Moscow, I think not only "Solntsepeki" will appear there


          Russia’s plans were reported to send more than 20 Mi-28 helicopters to Syria at the request of official authorities.
          (The use of Mi-28 in Iraq.)
          1. Ramzaj99
            Ramzaj99 12 October 2015 18: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: olegglin
            Russia’s plans were reported to send more than 20 Mi-28 helicopters to Syria at the request of official authorities. (Use of the Mi-28 in Iraq.)


            Wow cool. I have not seen this video yet. Even the electronics on MI-28 are no worse than on Apaches "exceptional"
            1. wanderer
              wanderer 12 October 2015 21: 35 New
              +3
              Ramzaj99- Well, I don’t know where you are, "the electronics are no worse than on the Apaches" you saw, judging by the fact that the Live Lake video clip and all the data in English, it seems that the Americans worked and the UAV control them too, so this video to MI 28 has nothing to do. litter.
              1. HMR333
                HMR333 12 October 2015 22: 58 New
                0
                Well, a clip about Iraq and Iraqi troops are fighting on Russian technology! they have not american
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          3. Dimka off
            Dimka off 12 October 2015 19: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: olegglin
            It was reported about Russia's plans to send more than 20 Mi-28 helicopters to Syria

            It would also be nice to run the Ka-52 there.
          4. Disant
            Disant 13 October 2015 02: 21 New
            +3
            where did you get that this is a shot with mi? indicators are displayed in Latin letters.
        4. nazar_0753
          nazar_0753 12 October 2015 16: 48 New
          +7
          Many people in the comments on the news of the bombing asked to put in Syria, “Pinocchio” and “Sunshine”. It looks like their pleas were heard laughing
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 12 October 2015 19: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: nazar_0753
            Many people in the comments on the news of the bombing asked to put in Syria, “Pinocchio” and “Sunshine”. It looks like their pleas were heard laughing

            Already it seems they managed to break in
            1. ikshacooper
              ikshacooper 13 October 2015 09: 37 New
              +4
              I believe this is the work of Gradov and not TOS.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 13 October 2015 18: 13 New
                0
                Quote: ikshacooper
                I believe this is the work of Gradov and not TOS.

                You better not assume, but make a comparison. The Internet is full of material for comparison
        5. Alex_Rarog
          Alex_Rarog 12 October 2015 19: 25 New
          +1
          The warriors in Iraq were delighted with the sun! Now the lines will follow them ...
          Cheap and cheerful.
        6. gav6757
          gav6757 12 October 2015 23: 49 New
          0
          Yes, let them warm up, guys from ISIS!
          The Syrians have fun, the militants are warm, well, what else do you need?
      2. SMS
        SMS 12 October 2015 15: 32 New
        +7
        Here on these scum from Solntsepyok would strike !!!!!!!!
      3. vitaliy.rnd
        vitaliy.rnd 12 October 2015 15: 45 New
        +1
        Not for the sake of, but because of.
      4. avia1991
        avia1991 12 October 2015 15: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        But in fact, we kill each other for the sake of these!

        ... Especially the right one - pure Rat! There is something in it .. INHUMAN. Like a cockroach from "Men in Black" that got into the body of a murdered farmer. am
      5. rustemkm
        rustemkm 12 October 2015 16: 16 New
        +3
        it is necessary for the "Solntsepekami" to burn out all the rockefellers and Rothschilds, then calm will come !!!
      6. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 12 October 2015 16: 59 New
        +1
        Erysipelas of devil ... nauseous by and large. !!! am
      7. lukewarm
        lukewarm 13 October 2015 09: 31 New
        0
        I looked at the signature of the demotivator. I completely agree. Only to destroy it is necessary to find and get. They are unattainable. Unfortunately.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 15: 26 New
      +17
      Quote: vorobey
      nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

      Well, the guys from the World of Tanks will catch up and find out.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 12 October 2015 15: 36 New
        +2
        And we ourselves should not be discouraged either. And then we got to the point of absurdity: we export cars better than in the army.
    3. Sukhoi
      Sukhoi 12 October 2015 15: 47 New
      +2
      nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

      look at the trucks.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: Sukhoi
        nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

        look at the trucks.


        And what ... looked at the tracks .. Caterpillars with binoculars for 72 years already 4-5 put ... T72B3
        1. Sukhoi
          Sukhoi 12 October 2015 18: 13 New
          +1
          And what ... looked at the tracks .. Caterpillars with binoculars for 72 years already 4-5 put ...

          The caterpillar with one finger (we carefully look at the photo in the article) was placed on the T-72, but not on the T-90.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Sukhoi
            The caterpillar with one finger (we carefully look at the photo in the article) was placed on the T-72, but not on the T-90.


            Here you got the smart gentlemen ...

            1. The basis for the creation of the T90 was the base of the T72 tank - you will not deny it?
            2. T72 and T90 are tanks with an artillery turret, a special-purpose control system, created on the basis of the T72, differing only in their internal filling ..
            3. A simple conclusion .. both Pinocchio and Solntsepek were created on the basis of the T72 tank .. but not the T90 in any way because the T90 is the T72 base with a new turret and weapon complex .. fuh .. briefly like that .. wink and let's take a look at what the manufacturer writes?
            1. Sukhoi
              Sukhoi 12 October 2015 18: 56 New
              +1
              Here you got the smart gentlemen ...

              1. The basis for the creation of the T90 was the base of the T72 tank - you will not deny it?
              2. T72 and T90 are tanks with an artillery turret, a special-purpose control system, created on the basis of the T72, differing only in their internal filling ..
              3. A simple conclusion .. both Pinocchio and Solntsepek were created on the basis of the T72 tank .. but not the T90 in any way because the T90 is the T72 base with a new turret and weapon complex .. fuh .. for a short time .. wink

              Instead of admitting that you were in a hurry and made a mistake, we decided to pull the owl on the globe. Good luck hi
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 12 October 2015 19: 03 New
                +1
                Quote: Sukhoi
                Instead of admitting that you were in a hurry and made a mistake, we decided to pull the owl on the globe


                what was my haste and mistake?
                1. Sukhoi
                  Sukhoi 12 October 2015 19: 10 New
                  0
                  what was my haste and mistake?
                  :
                  visually distinguish the T90 base from the T72

                  The answer was given to you: on a one-finger caterpillar, mounted only on a tank with the T-72 index. The fact that the T-90 grew out of 72 is undeniable, but it has nothing to do with the matter.
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 12 October 2015 19: 19 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Sukhoi
                    The answer was given to you: on a one-finger caterpillar mounted only on a tank with the T-72 index. The fact that the T-90 grew out of 72 is undeniable, but it has nothing to do with the matter


                    You clung to the question itself, but from what it leaked you did not pay attention - the statement in the article that the sunshines for Iraq were based on the T90 ..
                    1. Sukhoi
                      Sukhoi 12 October 2015 19: 27 New
                      0
                      You clung to the question itself, but from what it leaked you did not pay attention - the statement in the article that the sunshines for Iraq were based on the T90 ..

                      Well you (we, me))) so, I specifically singled out a piece from your post regarding which I commented. But I’m not even going to argue about Iraq with you, because I can’t refute or confirm with 100% certainty.
                      Iraqi Sunshine in the photo. Arrows tried to note a design other than on the T-90 VLD protection. In your photo, the T-90 is clearly visible.
                      1. Sukhoi
                        Sukhoi 12 October 2015 19: 32 New
                        0
                        In Azerbaijan, you can better see:
                      2. vorobey
                        vorobey 12 October 2015 21: 33 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Sukhoi
                        Iraqi Sunshine in the photo. Arrows tried to note a design other than on the T-90 VLD protection. In your photo, the T-90 is clearly visible.



                        once again .. T90 on whose base is created? Based on the T72 tank chassis ... (if that’s more clear). And the sun and Pinocchio are created only on the basis of the T72 tank chassis
                        there is no T90 tank chassis .. at least take a look at the arrows looking for differences, I’ll explain the essence to you ..
                      3. Sukhoi
                        Sukhoi 12 October 2015 22: 53 New
                        0
                        once again .. T90 on whose base is created? Based on the T72 tank chassis ... (if that’s more clear). And the sun and Pinocchio are created only on the basis of the T72 tank chassis
                        there is no T90 tank chassis .. at least take a look at the arrows looking for differences, I’ll explain the essence to you ..

                        OK. On the basis of which modifications of the T-72 are produced Solntsepeki?
                      4. rererilka
                        rererilka 12 October 2015 23: 21 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Sukhoi
                        OK. On the basis of which modifications of the T-72 are produced Solntsepeki?

                        Oh, damn it, how everything is started then what
                        T-72 is the base, further, as fantasy drives.
                        No, we want to troll? Duc, again, looks stupid.
                        And on the basis of what modification of the planet Earth, the current civilization appeared belay
                      5. Sukhoi
                        Sukhoi 12 October 2015 23: 58 New
                        0
                        Oh, damn it, how everything is running, what
                        T-72 is the base, further, as fantasy drives.
                        No, we want to troll? Duc, again, looks stupid.
                        And on the basis of what modification of the planet Earth, the current belay civilization appeared

                        T-72 are different. And everyone has a specific index, independent of your imagination. Don't like the word base, ok, I assume that its use in this context is incorrect, suggest another. The question remains the same: on the basis of what modifications of the base T-72 (Object 172M) are the Solntsepecs produced?
                      6. rererilka
                        rererilka 13 October 2015 02: 40 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Sukhoi
                        T-72 are different.

                        Not, stubborn, or where what
                        Well, imagine, a body is welded from armor, there are six torsons on each side along the entire transverse side (don’t look for symmetry, from 44, one harp is slightly shifted backward, like the right one, I don’t remember, it’s not important), the gearbox on the leading ones, this is the well-developed, to perfection, T-72 base. Next, stick the engine, which you like in size, on the shoulder strap, on top of the turret, gun, defense, you get a tank, a double-sided blade in front and a turret with a manipulator, you get an IMRka, well, you’ll still build a “Mona” laughing
                        Yes, then call it what you want, but the base is the first one to be released, T-72 request , suffice to suffer, and do not argue with fuel oil, otherwise you will scoop up the messenger, and I’ll add a handle from BSL-110 laughing
                      7. Sukhoi
                        Sukhoi 13 October 2015 09: 43 New
                        0
                        Not, bullshit, or where what

                        Yes, you do not be so nervous. If it’s the case, then it’s possible with a rammer, the crown will not fall from the head. But I would like to dot all the i. sad
                        So,
                        armored welded box
                        .... i.e. Is VLD included in the concept of "base"?

                        PS
                        , one harp is slightly shifted back
                        And why?
                      8. vorobey
                        vorobey 13 October 2015 14: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Sukhoi
                        Those. Is VLD included in the concept of "base"?


                        Yes, there is no such a concept at all ... there is a concept of a tank chassis ... it’s common people use the automotive term base ..
                      9. Sukhoi
                        Sukhoi 13 October 2015 14: 39 New
                        0
                        Yes, there is no such a concept at all ... there is a concept of a tank chassis ... it’s common people use the automotive term base ..

                        Well, with a tank chassis everything seems to be clear - these are torsion bars, rollers, the bottom of the hull and .... correct where I made a mistake.
                        Take the hull of the four tanks T-72, T-72A, T72B and T-90A. They have the same shape and dimensions, but the composition and layout of the armor differ. Is it possible to say that the "bases" are also different? If the course of the rollers and the shape of the bottom are different, then what is the tank chassis different (not dramatically, but separate parts)? If I take, for example, the case from T-72A and T-90, remove all unnecessary, add the right one and call it Solntsepek, then how do I designate them? After all, the characteristics and cost are significantly different.
                    2. vorobey
                      vorobey 13 October 2015 14: 29 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Sukhoi
                      , one harp is slightly shifted back. And why?


                      because the independent torsion bar suspension and torsion bars go through the entire body .. and physically cannot be placed on one axis therefore they are located one after another, hence the displacement is small .. not only tracks but track rollers ... everything is fine with the pieces.
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  • vorobey
    vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 14 New
    +3
    and this t90 find five differences .. laughing well, or three ...
    1. Sukhoi
      Sukhoi 12 October 2015 18: 28 New
      +1
      and this is t90 find five differences .. laughing well or three ...

      I don’t understand why are you trying to drag the comparison of the T-90 and T-72B3 when the old T-72 track is clearly visible in the Syrian photos?
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Sukhoi
        and this is t90 find five differences .. laughing well or three ...

        I don’t understand why are you trying to drag the comparison of the T-90 and T-72B3 when the old T-72 track is clearly visible in the Syrian photos?


        Go back to the very first comment and re-read. there is a quote from the article .. the wise guy wrote .. about suns based on the T90 ... All of them are based on the T72, I explained to you why above ..
  • vodolaz
    vodolaz 12 October 2015 15: 50 New
    +5
    Hard. In Afghanistan, Mujahideen changed their minds about attacking Kabul only after hearing about the Pinocchio.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 12 October 2015 16: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: vorobey
    who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from the T72 already argued in one topic ..


    See zhuravkofff Learning to distinguish between T-64, T-72 and T-80 tanks! Manual for dummies.
    http://pikabu.ru/story/likbez_uchimsya_razlichat_tanki_t64_t72_i_t80_posobie_dly
    a_chaynikov_2597232
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Cherdak
      Learning to distinguish between T-64, T-72 and T-80 tanks! Manual for dummies.


      about the kettle ... cool .. laughing
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 12 October 2015 16: 25 New
    +4
    Quote: vorobey
    a visually distinguish the T90 base from the T72
  • denisey
    denisey 12 October 2015 16: 32 New
    +2
    who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from the T72 already argued in one topic ..
    Look at the tanks here
    Quote: vorobey
  • lelikas
    lelikas 12 October 2015 16: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: vorobey

    nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

    Not for the sake of argument, for example, for a vskidka for a non-specialist - on tracks, the lack of remote sensing on the VLD, the exhaust manifold.
    1. denisey
      denisey 12 October 2015 17: 02 New
      -1
      Solntsepek has 24 pipes instead of 30 for Pinocchio
    2. denisey
      denisey 12 October 2015 17: 02 New
      0
      Solntsepek has 24 pipes instead of 30 for Pinocchio
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: lelikas
      Quote: vorobey

      nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

      Not for the sake of argument, for example, for a vskidka for a non-specialist - on tracks, the lack of remote sensing on the VLD, the exhaust manifold.


      Neither for the sun nor for Pinocchio, the T90 base was never used ... there is no such base, there is a T72 tank chassis

      The case of the T72 B3 and T90 is almost identical .. the filling is different .. the inner world, so to speak .. pictures above .. laughing
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 12 October 2015 16: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: vorobey
    nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

    EMNIP, the easiest way is to use a dirt collector in front of the driver’s hatch: for “home” vehicles based on the T-72 it is a “corner”, for export vehicles based on the T-90 it is straight, horizontal.
    In addition, there are a number of other details, such as the shape of the fenders in the bow of the hull.
    1. alone
      alone 12 October 2015 17: 16 New
      0
      The war there is mainly in settlements. The use of flamethrowers in cities is nothing good.
      does not promise. We hope that this does not happen.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Quote: vorobey
      nonsense ... who will tell how visually to distinguish the T90 base from T72 already argued in one subject ..

      EMNIP, the easiest way is to use a dirt collector in front of the driver’s hatch: for “home” vehicles based on the T-72 it is a “corner”, for export vehicles based on the T-90 it is straight, horizontal.
      In addition, there are a number of other details, such as the shape of the fenders in the bow of the hull.


      on older versions yes ...

      no new ones ..
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 12 October 2015 18: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: vorobey
        on older versions yes ...

        no new ones ..

        In the photo, of course, it is difficult to make out - but, in my opinion, there is just a “corner”. If so, then it turns out just the car based on the T-72, and the old version. Like this one:
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 12 October 2015 18: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          based on the T-72, with the old modification


          and T90 on whose base? lol

          If you now say on the basis of T72 you yourself will understand everything ..
  • HMR333
    HMR333 12 October 2015 22: 53 New
    0
    on the ice rinks but the horseradish is not visible in the photo so for now it's a fake
  • bear-hn
    bear-hn 13 October 2015 05: 35 New
    0
    if on t-72 probably Pinocchio
  • Brewney
    Brewney 14 October 2015 23: 23 New
    0
    It seems like nonsense.
    It seems both Pinocchio and Solntsepek on the T-72nd ...
    Guides must be considered. 24 - Sunflower.
  • Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 15 October 2015 14: 59 New
    0
    it's definitely visually difficult
  • hedgehog in the fog
    hedgehog in the fog 12 October 2015 14: 58 New
    +1
    things, although it may be Pinocchio, the pictures are blurry
    1. morozik
      morozik 12 October 2015 15: 01 New
      +11
      24 guides clearly visible - Solntsepek, Pinocchio - 30
      1. Wolkin82
        Wolkin82 12 October 2015 18: 23 New
        0
        Speak correctly, uncle, this is "sunshine"
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 12 October 2015 15: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: hedgehog in the fog
      things, although it may be Pinocchio, the pictures are blurry

      So there is almost no difference. Some have more guides, others a little less. hi
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 12 October 2015 15: 10 New
        +2
        The shape of the block with the guides is different, it is impossible to mix up.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 15: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Kil 31
        So there is almost no difference. Some have more guides, others a little less.

        Firing range Pinocchio 3000 meters.
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 15: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Firing range Pinocchio 3000 meters.

          For Syria, just right .... We saw a flash fired! And further advance ...
      3. alone
        alone 12 October 2015 17: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Kil 31
        So there is almost no difference. Some have more guides, others a little less.


        pinotino
        Weight in combat position, kg 46 000
        Length in the stowed position, mm 6860
        Width in the stowed position, mm 3460
        Height in stowed position, mm 2600 (estimated)
        Clearance, mm 470
        weaponry
        Caliber mm 220
        Barrel length, mm 5000 (estimated)
        Number of rails 24 (30)
        Minimum firing range, m 400
        Maximum firing range, m 3600 (with new missiles - up to 6000)
        Area of ​​defeat, m² to 40 000
        BM calculation, people Xnumx
        Mobility
        Engine type V-12 diesel
        Maximum speed on the highway, km / h 65
        Cruising on highway, km 550
        Wheel formula crawler chassis

        sunshine

        Body length, mm 7240
        Case width mm 3580
        Height, mm 3073
        Clearance, mm 470
        Reservation
        Type of armor steel
        weaponry
        Caliber and brand of gun 220 mm
        Firing Range, km 0,4..6
        Sights TKN-3A, 1D14
        Machine guns 1 x 5,45 mm RPKS-74
        Other weapons 24 x NURS MO. 1.01.04
        Mobility
        engine's type
        [show] B-84MS
        Engine power, l with. Xnumx
        Highway speed, km / h 60
        Cruising on highway, km 550
        Type of suspension individual torsion bar
        Ground pressure, kg / cm² 0,9
        Gradeability, hail. thirty
        The overcome wall, m 0,85
        The overcome ditch, m 2,6..2,8
        Overcoming ford, m 1,2
      4. Wolkin82
        Wolkin82 12 October 2015 18: 25 New
        0
        Due to the large number of guides in the Caucasus, they were afraid to use them without protection. Since the ammunition protection is weak and fragments can cause detonation. Therefore, even the extreme 4 on each side were always empty. And the range of the sun, 2,5 km more.
    3. WUA 518
      WUA 518 12 October 2015 15: 32 New
      +8
      Quote: hedgehog in the fog
      although it may be Pinocchio, f
      1. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim 12 October 2015 16: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: WUA 518
        although it may be Pinocchio

        Ukrainians zayut laughing
  • RUS96
    RUS96 12 October 2015 14: 59 New
    +38
    Well, the field "solarium" has arrived. Now the bearded blush will be leveled)))
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 12 October 2015 15: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: RUS96
      Well, the field "solarium" has arrived

      laughing
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 14: 59 New
    +7
    There they work a lot of land ....
  • Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 12 October 2015 14: 59 New
    +14
    Warm yourself in the sun, barmalei.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 12 October 2015 15: 00 New
    +27
    Oh, and without luck, the igil will first fry the sdes on the ground, and then in a frying pan in hell, the way to the shaitans is there.
    1. win
      win 12 October 2015 17: 25 New
      +4
      the igil is first fried on the ground, then ina pan in hell


      Now the media will scream - disproportionate application
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  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 12 October 2015 15: 00 New
    +11
    And they thought - my father’s house, my mother’s apartment? Nah, it's only the beginning!
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 12 October 2015 15: 02 New
    +7
    So, we’ll fly around the aircraft ourselves, the Syrians will help with the ground part (armored personnel carriers, “Solntsepeki”) ... That’s another way to check the air defense systems repeat .
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 12 October 2015 15: 02 New
    +44
    Disco - "200 vacar per minute."

    And then Zamzur decided that he no longer likes to cut people's heads:

    1. morozik
      morozik 12 October 2015 15: 28 New
      +8
      there is an opinion that this is Tornadoes)
      1. Themi30
        Themi30 12 October 2015 16: 08 New
        +9
        it’s hail, too fast for tornadoes and weak.
        1. Nikoha.2010
          Nikoha.2010 12 October 2015 16: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: TheMi30
          it’s hail, too fast for tornadoes and weak.

          Judging by this link: youtube.com ›watch? V = iozvKRftgqg yes, Grad.
      2. brr1
        brr1 12 October 2015 16: 15 New
        +3
        I support. Definitely cluster munition. Rather tornadoes.
      3. Averias
        Averias 12 October 2015 16: 16 New
        +6
        Quote: morozik
        there is an opinion that this is Tornadoes)

        I support, the first thing that catches your eye is the speed of fire. TOS-1A works more slowly, on RAE-2015 I personally observed from a distance of 50 meters how TOS-1A fires. And that year I saw how the MLRS "SMERCH" works, very similar to the one on the video. Only now it seems that they work almost direct fire. But “Tornado” cannot do this (although I won’t argue), but TOS-1A is just the same. But the fact that hell is at the epicenter of the volley is unambiguous.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 15: 28 New
      +11
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Disco - "200 vacar per minute."

      And where is Solncepek's work on the video?
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 12 October 2015 15: 42 New
        +4
        But how they lament behind the scenes. One particularly zealous voice stands out. So many lamentations there. Probably involuntarily trying on themselves the observed picture.
    3. HAM
      HAM 12 October 2015 15: 36 New
      +5
      For some reason, all these sounds, about “alla, I'm at the bar!” Are perceived as: “that's it, we ..kon ..... ec!”
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 October 2015 15: 44 New
        +7
        Quote: HAM
        For some reason, all these sounds, about “alla, I'm at the bar!” Are perceived as: “that's it, we ..kon ..... ec!”

        They pray in advance, and then they do not have time. laughing
    4. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 12 October 2015 15: 48 New
      0
      I think that Russian (Solntsepyok) does not mean at all that Russia uses it.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 October 2015 16: 13 New
        +5
        Quote: vitaliy.rnd
        I think that Russian (Solntsepyok) does not mean at all that Russia uses it.

        Of course not. This is a portable pan from the Underworld, so that the process goes faster.
    5. sabakina
      sabakina 12 October 2015 16: 42 New
      +1
      In this video, the most spectacular is the beginning, the ending is not so cool ...
    6. kotvov
      kotvov 12 October 2015 19: 13 New
      0
      Disco - "200 vacar per minute."
      You can understand them, 4 years of war. After such work, go collect trophies on metal.
  • Hubun
    Hubun 12 October 2015 15: 03 New
    +4
    it will become very hot for someone, God forbid, fall under him
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 12 October 2015 15: 09 New
      +31
      Quote: Hubun
      it will become very hot for someone, God forbid, fall under him



      Kebab-mashlyk, ordered ??? !!! good soldier
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 12 October 2015 15: 40 New
        +2
        It would be great to bring UR-77 Meteorite there. 700 kg suitcase arrives!
      2. samara-58
        samara-58 13 October 2015 11: 57 New
        0
        Rather grill! bully
  • kultiapin
    kultiapin 12 October 2015 15: 03 New
    +12
    They have been waiting there for a long time, the machine will lift the morale by the Syrian alone
  • Maksus
    Maksus 12 October 2015 15: 03 New
    +4
    Old info already, there were these photos on the network. A question with evidence that it is precisely Syria that is open. Barmalei are the same everywhere ...
  • morozik
    morozik 12 October 2015 15: 03 New
    +11
    speak from under the Hama photo
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 15: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: morozik
      speak from under the Hama photo

      This photo is in many articles, even those that do not apply to Syria at all. 30.06.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX
      1. morozik
        morozik 12 October 2015 16: 26 New
        +1
        then they say it is wrong) ... misled)
  • ML-334
    ML-334 12 October 2015 15: 04 New
    +8
    Sacred lice will be burned, and without them only to the shaitan.
  • Conn
    Conn 12 October 2015 15: 08 New
    +8
    Nekhai, the Yankees will see how their friends from ISIS are frying, maybe then they will grow wiser!
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 15: 18 New
      +7
      Quote: Conn
      Nekhai, the Yankees will see how their friends from ISIS are frying, maybe then they will grow wiser!

      Dill is also useful ...
      1. jovanni
        jovanni 12 October 2015 17: 19 New
        0
        Nekhai, the Yankees will see how their friends from ISIS are frying, maybe then they will grow wiser!

        Unfortunately, they will not grow wiser until their skin starts to burn! We got used to doing dirty tricks to others, and ourselves sit behind the ocean ...
    2. Remedio
      Remedio 12 October 2015 16: 16 New
      +2
      What are the "friends"? Consumable!
  • GRDS
    GRDS 12 October 2015 15: 10 New
    +14


    Here is a video found. The truth is Iraq
    1. jjj
      jjj 12 October 2015 15: 27 New
      0
      Heard shouting:
      -Andrey! Andrey!
    2. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 12 October 2015 15: 28 New
      +6
      Isn’t that the tenth second is written by Iraqi Tos-1 MLRS in Action?
  • sl22277
    sl22277 12 October 2015 15: 11 New
    +5
    It’s time to burn out with fire. The murderers deserve even more severe punishment. Fascist rabble of all countries gathered there. Their death is a legal punishment.
    The militia would have a couple of such “Solntsepeks” as many ukrozopy kebabs would have turned out.
  • hannibal lecter
    hannibal lecter 12 October 2015 15: 12 New
    +2
    They are familiar to the sun, and therefore black. But this one will probably make black coal deposits from them.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 12 October 2015 15: 17 New
      +2
      Rather, a brilliant anthracite.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 October 2015 15: 27 New
      +9
      The news is of course very good, but these systems, such as the Grad, Smerch MLRS, are not very "applicable" in those conditions, since terrorists are unlikely to gather in large formations for the destruction of which MLRS is required.
      The fights there are mainly of this type:

      It requires BMPT, BMP-3, tanks for the "urban battle", etc.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 15: 59 New
        0
        Quote: quilted jacket
        The news is of course very good, but these systems, such as the Grad, Smerch MLRS, are not very "applicable" in those conditions, since terrorists are unlikely to gather in large formations for the destruction of which MLRS is required.

        About the opinion of the expert, all military branches of Syria, Russia, the USA and Israel and the forces of ISIS. Where he served, answer the people not shy already.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 12 October 2015 16: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          On the opinion of the expert, all military branches of Syria, Russia, the USA and Israel and ISIS forces

          For the USA, Israel and ISIS, please answer yourself, they seem to be "closer" to you smile
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Where he served, answer the people not shy already.

          Well, unlike you, I even served lol
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 16: 25 New
            0
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Well, unlike you, I even served

            Well, where did you serve? Our military then supplies Tornadoes, Hurricanes and Grads to Syria, and you consider this inexpedient.
            Well, answer the specialist of everything and everything, where did he serve?
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 12 October 2015 17: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Our military then supplies Tornadoes, Hurricanes and Grads to Syria, and you consider this inexpedient.

              I personally believe that in the present conditions they will not be particularly effective in view of the absence of significant groups of militants, this is not so to say a "big" war, for example against Israel, wherever they are useful.
              And the contracts for the supply of MLRS could be concluded before the current war and are now simply being implemented, or maybe they were (Tornadoes, Hurricanes) in the Syrian army earlier.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well, answer the specialist of everything and everything, where did he serve?

              Why do you want it? In general, you pose strange requests - show your photo or tell where and by whom you served belay
              Then what will follow the question - where do you live and what is your address?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 17: 41 New
                0
                Quote: quilted jacket

                Then what will follow the question - where do you live and what is your address?

                Fuck me your address, where did you serve? As a rule, the one who did not serve leaves the answer, since they scorch quickly.
                Quote: quilted jacket
                - show me your photo

                I have a skype, I can give a look. I really have nothing to hide.
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 12 October 2015 17: 51 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Fuck me your address, where did you serve? As a rule, the one who did not serve leaves the answer, since they scorch quickly.

                  Well, consider that you "split" me smile just don't be so nervous lol
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  I have a skype, I can give a look. I really have nothing to hide.

                  Look at you belay
                  Why do I need you. I haven’t seen you and I honestly don’t want to see you.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 18: 02 New
                    0
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Well, consider that you "split me

                    Vata, well, why are you so, there are a lot of show-offs in you, but in fact what? - zero turns out.
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Why do I need you. I haven’t seen you and I honestly don’t want to see you.

                    I asked for a photo. I’m becoming more and more convinced that a 17-year-old skinhead is sitting there at the computer and he is crazy, hell knows who. There were already dozens of Jewish-minded specialists, only where are they all ......
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 12 October 2015 18: 57 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Vata, well, why are you so, there are a lot of show-offs in you

                      Oh, you want to insult me ​​using the fact that you are a moderator belay
                      By the way, your appeal - Vata - you strongly remind me of a citizen from Israel.
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      but in fact what? - zero is obtained.

                      Do you yourself when you write your comments you think of them and hits the "fountain of intelligence"? lol
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      I asked for a photo.

                      Am i with you? belay You are confusing me with someone.
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      I’m becoming more and more convinced that a 17-year-old skinhead sits there at the computer and stands on his own, hell knows who.

                      Well, I have long made up my opinion about you.
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      There were already dozens of experts obsessed with Jews, only where are they all ...

                      Well what happens in life happens.
  • Witamin72
    Witamin72 12 October 2015 15: 15 New
    +3
    all the barmaley in the pan !!!! am
  • sinukvl
    sinukvl 12 October 2015 15: 20 New
    +5
    For Allah Akbar, everything is just beginning. It’s not for them to play war game with the “invincible American army” for 4 years.
  • Watchdog
    Watchdog 12 October 2015 15: 20 New
    +8
    Mdaaa. Terrible weapon. They woke up the bear - get it, sign it - on the receipt - vacuum bombs, cruise missiles, heavy flamethrowers. Armageddon. Who else wants to fry for the sake of Matrasstan?
  • IAlex
    IAlex 12 October 2015 15: 20 New
    +3
    The Bulletin of Mordovia is not only a valuable source of information, but also a constant generator of funny jokes and useful comments ... :)))))))))))))))))))))
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 12 October 2015 15: 21 New
    +5
    3 I part "Burnt by the Sun"
  • ilyaches
    ilyaches 12 October 2015 15: 21 New
    +2
    Cruel tin. The guys are burning. am
  • SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 12 October 2015 15: 25 New
    0
    The circumcised ones are now browned. And that's good.
  • Karlssalone
    Karlssalone 12 October 2015 15: 28 New
    0
    palm up i pour you the sun
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 12 October 2015 15: 30 New
    0
    Is the Sunshine a sort of export modification? If it was in service with the Russian army, then Pinocchio should be with 30 trunks?
    1. quote
      quote 12 October 2015 16: 26 New
      0
      With thirty "trunks" !?
      Guides.
  • Stas Karpov
    Stas Karpov 12 October 2015 15: 35 New
    -52
    In connection with the latest events in Russia, jihad has been declared by all these radical Muslim groups.
    Terrorist attack prevented in Moscow, 15 bandits detained. I wonder how many terrorist services the special services can’t prevent?
    In 2 years, to make the enemies of Russia 40 million. Ukrainians and an immense number of Muslims, we must try.
    1. Oznob
      Oznob 12 October 2015 16: 20 New
      +6
      You are not us, you pity them wink
      1. Stas Karpov
        Stas Karpov 12 October 2015 16: 59 New
        -7
        I just do not regret you. Go rather to war with your "couch" general epaulettes laughing .
        1. Oznob
          Oznob 12 October 2015 17: 09 New
          +2
          Good. And will they give me a spear of general and a knife?
    2. brr1
      brr1 12 October 2015 16: 22 New
      +3
      Come on. Do not bzdi. This whirlwind is eternal with wars, jihad, resentment, bending one another. Everyone will forget as soon as the mutual benefit appears somehow. They will either give you a gobble. 40 million Ukrainians are occasionally offended by Russia, then again brothers. And so in a circle.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 October 2015 16: 30 New
      +12
      Quote: Stas Karpov
      In 2 years, to make the enemies of Russia 40 million. Ukrainians and an immense number of Muslims, we must try.

      Amerov is not embarrassed that in 15 years they have made half of humanity enemies, and they are fierce.
      And it’s probably your philosophy to cave in under each one. So sorry for my French, TAKE YOUR TOLERANCE AND DRIVE WHERE YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH YOUR BEDDING.
      ISIS fears and takes people like you, cutting off their heads and burning people alive in bundles. Only this rabble understands the language of power and no other. And about Ukraine, so Russia is to blame if two generations of frostbitten fascists were brought up by the Ukrainian educational system under dictation Soraza and others like him. And with this garbage afraid to ruin the relationship? Your grandfather, who probably fought, would listen to you. Isn’t it a shame?
      1. Stas Karpov
        Stas Karpov 12 October 2015 17: 29 New
        -18
        My grandfathers fought for their homeland, defending the country, and did not participate in dubious adventures.
        And you should be ashamed that you and your fake marshal epaulettes still tryndit on the forum, and do not show your heroism in a hot spot ... did he even serve in the army? laughing
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 12 October 2015 17: 37 New
          +9
          Quote: Stas Karpov
          but did not participate in dubious adventures.

          Do you think that it is better to fight ISIS on your territory?
          Quote: Stas Karpov
          My grandfathers fought for their homeland, defending the country,

          And now our soldiers defend our Motherland there in Syria from the invasion of this abomination on OUR land. And if you turn on your brains, you will understand that I am right.
          Quote: Stas Karpov
          And you should be ashamed that you and your fake marshal epaulettes still tryndit on the forum, and do not show your heroism in a hot spot ... did he even serve in the army?

          He served and gave his full duty to the Motherland. Well, you’re not so fake here to talk about friendship with terrorists and fascists in order to live together with everyone? I think your two grandfathers, HONOR AND A LOW BOW TO THE EARTH, to you, for your the reasoning of the scoreboard would have elementarily filled the workers and peasants.
        2. iConst
          iConst 12 October 2015 17: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: Stas Karpov
          My grandfathers fought for their homeland, defending the country, and did not participate in dubious adventures.
          - You're not right. These are the same grandfathers or future grandfathers are just as well fighting for our country.

          The world has changed and the methods of warfare, too - you cannot help but see this. Now it is possible to destroy peoples with the help of sanctions, destroying the economy.
          Or nurturing terrorists.
          Waiting for them to come to your house (and they will come) is stupid.

          If you do not understand this, then you should not discuss it here - go to the Ear of Moscow or to the ukro-censor.
          They can take you there.
          1. Stas Karpov
            Stas Karpov 12 October 2015 18: 45 New
            -6
            For some reason, the Union with its self-sufficient economy did not care about any sanctions, and he could afford Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam, Angola, etc.
            And the Russian economy, and therefore the Russian people, is destroying the Kremlin. Their total corruption and theft, their foreign trips, their foreign accounts and real estate, their children "over the hill", the transformation of Russia into a raw materials appendage of the West, etc.
            More recently, there was such a minister as Serdyukov, who clearly worked not for the good of Russia. Something quickly all of this was forgotten and forgiven.
            Until 1985, the country (then the USSR) had state-patriotic power, and now it is corrupt-west-thieves.
            1. iConst
              iConst 12 October 2015 20: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: Stas Karpov
              For some reason, the Union with its self-sufficient economy did not care about any sanctions, and he could afford Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam, Angola, etc.
              - Almost self-sufficient, but very inefficient. The efficiency of the Soviet economy was extremely low, hence the much lower GDP. The Union got hooked on oil, which, coupled with the decay of the top, ruined it: too much spending.

              Quote: Stas Karpov
              And the Russian economy, and therefore the Russian people, is destroying the Kremlin. Their total corruption and theft, their foreign trips, their foreign accounts and real estate, their children "over the hill", the transformation of Russia into a raw materials appendage of the West, etc.
              “Not so bad.” Yes, the so-called “elites” thinking that when they rule the country according to the residual principle, and, first of all, by solving the problems of their families, they will not have problems on a national scale, many are already beginning to understand and turn to the side of state administration.
              It is difficult to break the liberal model, slid by the Americans and already existing for two decades, especially without shocks.
              Russia may not survive another “perestroika”.


              I see you are worried about the country, but try to understand the essence of the problems that are happening - you will see that everything is very complicated. There are different groups - patriots, libero-patriots, liberals, etc.
              And the funny thing is that the vast majority of them do not want harm to Russia. But for a number of reasons - relationships and the environment, their understanding that "good" or "bad" they do as they do.

              And the last: there is a good (albeit hostile) statement: Don’t ask what the country has done for you, ask what you can do for the country.
            2. brr1
              brr1 13 October 2015 05: 36 New
              +2
              Russia is destroyed by people like you, always aching liberalists.
        3. Disant
          Disant 13 October 2015 03: 17 New
          0
          don't need grandfathers - speak for yourself
      2. Disant
        Disant 13 October 2015 03: 11 New
        0
        so he didn’t seem to speak for fear. what is the deflection?
        the question for the attacks is correct.
        one must prepare and be prepared, and not sit and minus.
        a serious question
    4. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 12 October 2015 16: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Stas Karpov
      In 2 years, having done, enemies of Russia, 40 million Ukrainians and an immense number of Muslims, we must try.

      The Ukrainians themselves tried to make Russia an enemy, they survived completely out of their minds. The enemies of Russia are jackals, not Muslims!
    5. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 12 October 2015 17: 08 New
      +8
      Quote: Stas Karpov
      In 2 years, to make the enemies of Russia 40 million. Ukrainians and an immense number of Muslims, we must try.

      Bgggg ... of the 40 million, some went to Russia, taking Crimea with them. And the other part is actively working on the territory of the "enemy". And those who jumped and shouted about “we will never be brothers” never were friends.
      And no tales about pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine, whom we framed. There were none like that. There were only those who showed the cookie openly, and those who held it behind their backs. The same Poroshenko at one time was the sculpted sidekick of Profesor and one of the founders of the Party of Regions (not to mention his ministerial post at Yanyka).

      As for the Muslims, then whoever was the enemy remained the one to them. But who doubted Russia, he saw that Russia could protect its allies.
      1. iConst
        iConst 12 October 2015 17: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexey RA
        a part went to Russia, taking Crimea with them. And the other part is actively working on the territory of the "enemy". And those who jumped and shouted about "we will never be brothers" ...
        Exactly.
        They have been told "suitcase-station-Russia" for so long that they left with a suitcase and a station ... laughing

        Those that work a little pop .. live, but do not rush to the nenka.

        And the "non-brothers" (and the famous poet) are already whining about harassment and betrayal.

        That's it.
        1. Rader
          Rader 12 October 2015 19: 00 New
          0
          Of the Ukrainians made enemies of Russia for 25 years, and not 2 years - this time. Two - once a month, "Islam wars" declaring "jihad" of Russia / World / Universe are stably declared. Here, "Stas Karpov" talks about the prevented terrorist attack in Moscow and connects this (the intensification of terrorists) with the beginning of the bombing in Syria ... In fact, the preparation of the captured subjects lasted more than one month => the decision on otakas in the Russian Federation was made long before the appearance Sushke ...
          P.S. Stas is not the same request wassat
    6. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 12 October 2015 18: 39 New
      +1
      Stas Karpov - come out ...)))
      1. Stas Karpov
        Stas Karpov 12 October 2015 18: 46 New
        -7
        Cho is scared of the truth, fake colonel general? laughing
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 12 October 2015 21: 07 New
          +3
          Where is the truth? So far, only general terms in the spirit - "everything is gone." So any homegrown liberal can. Weak.
      2. Disant
        Disant 13 October 2015 03: 16 New
        0
        let him speak. I am also a pessimist
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    8. VeryBravePiggy
      VeryBravePiggy 12 October 2015 23: 33 New
      +3
      Over the years, our army, the police (including the SOBR and OMON), special services and "simple" volunteers (including the PMCs of the same Gazprom) have made tens of thousands of those who pathetically called themselves enemies of Russia. As a rule, all of this now dead minnow did not even have time to understand until the last moment that they were kirdyk. But very beautifully and bravely declared themselves in the media.
      As the saying goes, for the enemies we have both ammunition and the land is still quite enough. On average, one and a half cubic meters per carcass. After exposure to "Pinocchio", however, will remain much less.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 October 2015 15: 36 New
    +6
    Not humanely, like that ..! But there will be no corpses!
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 12 October 2015 15: 58 New
      +6
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Not humanely, like that ..! But there will be no corpses!

      What remains will be swept away by a broom or the wind will blow away, but in general a very humane weapon - even Allahu Akbar will not have time to repeat
      1. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim 12 October 2015 16: 28 New
        +7
        Quote: treble 72019
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Not humanely, like that ..! But there will be no corpses!

        What remains will be swept away by a broom or the wind will blow away, but in general a very humane weapon - even Allahu Akbar will not have time to repeat
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 12 October 2015 15: 42 New
    +2
    Make spirits hell on Earth! am
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      1. tupolev-95
        tupolev-95 12 October 2015 21: 08 New
        +2
        Something tells me - you just did not see them in your eyes.
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  • gukoyan
    gukoyan 12 October 2015 15: 45 New
    +2
    Ohhhh, hot days are coming for IG))
  • Sars
    Sars 12 October 2015 15: 53 New
    +1
    Where do the comrades from Mordovia get their information from? Of course, I am for Solntsepek and Burotin and Cheburashka in the steppes of Syria, but it seems - another fake.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 October 2015 16: 04 New
    +8
    It’s too early for us to leave Syria.
    Now still Terminators to try, our EW to try.
    Intelligence and target designation systems are various.
    That is, it is a testing ground for our new weapons.
    Well, plus the disposal of the old ammunition by shooting towards the enemy.
  • Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 12 October 2015 16: 06 New
    +3
    In addition to the "Sunlight" in the Syrian government forces "lit up" and armored cars "Lynx".

    Well, another good news, to help Syria joined China. At least the government forces have a large number of Chinese BJ-2022 SUVs.

    1. Қarabas
      Қarabas 12 October 2015 16: 16 New
      +4
      Mdaa .. God grant that the Syrian army triumphs, Russia helps Pts. seriously as we see
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 12 October 2015 17: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Well, another good news, to help Syria joined China. At least the government forces have a large number of Chinese BJ-2022 SUVs.

      And about the weather in Syria. The wind is moderate - northeast. laughing
  • Remedio
    Remedio 12 October 2015 16: 09 New
    +1
    It’s even scary to look at Solntseёk (if everything is in order with the imagination), and here there are such dashing comments that it seems that most of the commentators did not serve, did not fight.
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    2. Disant
      Disant 13 October 2015 03: 25 New
      0
      and what is wrong?
      - we will erase enemies in powder !!
      what's wrong? many exclamation marks?
  • Eustace
    Eustace 12 October 2015 16: 13 New
    +2
    Have a good tan, gentlemen Igilovtsy. drinks
  • KRIG55
    KRIG55 12 October 2015 16: 19 New
    0
    So after all, winter is coming soon and it’s probably getting colder too, let them warm themselves.
  • Mwg
    Mwg 12 October 2015 16: 30 New
    +1
    What is our "Messenger of Mordovia" is already very knowledgeable and significant, this is not the first time that his news on VO has been commented on. It seems that there, in Mordovia, more to know the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ...
  • TOZ-34
    TOZ-34 12 October 2015 16: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    things, although it may be Pinocchio, the pictures are blurry

    Some military APUs may claim that it is Cheburashki.
  • wild
    wild 12 October 2015 17: 41 New
    0
    They are already full
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 12 October 2015 17: 56 New
    0
    Information from the category of OBS / one grandmother said / if you write then make links to authoritative sources, they have permanent links to the Internet.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 October 2015 18: 07 New
    +1
    Pinocchio + ODAB 500, a good bunch for the assault on fortified objects.
  • CRASH
    CRASH 12 October 2015 18: 14 New
    +1
    They had sunshine, now the heat will be!
  • Alekspel
    Alekspel 12 October 2015 19: 48 New
    +2
    Sunshine is great, of course. They will burn the Ishilovites, seize and innocent of anything. And after all, in the heat of all this madness, most people do not understand that they will eventually die so that the old de-ro-mo-rockefeller or some sort of Soros would eat oysters, eat lobsters and drink them $ 1500 a bottle of wine. Or a man with the smile of an idiot Abdermovich sailed on his yacht to Nice and warmed his dull face in the sun there. We are too carried away by foreign policy and its manifestations, forgetting that our prices fall and do not think that they do not really pay wages, and even small officials build villas for bribes and other injustices are happening in our country. So there’s nothing special to enjoy. Although I fully approve of Putin's actions. It is a pity that there is just one more explosive to conduct a competent domestic policy. Because the cabinet, led by this funny guy, is a funeral team for the country.
  • flint1309
    flint1309 12 October 2015 19: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Stas Karpov
    For some reason, the Union with its self-sufficient economy did not care about any sanctions, and he could afford Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam, Angola, etc.
    And the Russian economy, and therefore the Russian people, is destroying the Kremlin. Their total corruption and theft, their foreign trips, their foreign accounts and real estate, their children "over the hill", the transformation of Russia into a raw materials appendage of the West, etc.
    More recently, there was such a minister as Serdyukov, who clearly worked not for the good of Russia. Something quickly all of this was forgotten and forgiven.
    Until 1985, the country (then the USSR) had state-patriotic power, and now it is corrupt-west-thieves.

    Damn, tell me ??? (well, let Moscow be) immediately built? Or did Yeltsin want !? There we did not make enemies ...
  • demandy1
    demandy1 12 October 2015 20: 08 New
    0
    Yes ... our people care about the "moderate Syrian opposition", worry that they don’t freeze in the winter, although .. they don’t care anyway - they’re unlikely to reach the winter
  • PRV-16
    PRV-16 12 October 2015 20: 24 New
    +1
    This is Pinocchio. Although for example Casanova, it’s Pinocchio upside down. So I think it doesn’t matter, “Pinocchio” or “Sunshine”. Still scary))
  • cergey51046
    cergey51046 12 October 2015 20: 29 New
    0
    It's time.
  • temirtau72
    temirtau72 12 October 2015 20: 57 New
    0
    Quote: iConst
    Quote: Snake AAA
    Yeah, you need to fry these teryug, they have nothing sacred !!!
    - Holy - holy! What is the meaning of frying? belay
    If in a pan - this is to the shaitans, but if in the sense of ... well, fry ... - this is in Geyropu ... laughing

    Hey guys! not everyone in Europe is bad. here, too, people live who are in solidarity with you and are taking, for their part, some measures to non-proliferation of the "hamster" infection))))