Netherlands Ambassador to Moscow says "the end of efforts to create an international tribunal for the perpetrators of the crash of MH-17"

The Ambassador of the Netherlands in Russia, Ron van Dartel, said that the actions to create an international tribunal on the fact of the crash of a Malaysian airliner in the Donbass have been stopped. According to the Dutch diplomat, this step had to be made in connection with the clear position of the Russian Federation in the UN Security Council. Recall that Russia vetoed a resolution to establish such a tribunal, since the investigative commission did not publish the final results of the investigation, and some countries have already rushed to appoint the perpetrators.

RIA News cites a statement by the Ambassador of the Netherlands to the Russian Federation:

Russia very clearly stated its position with the help of a veto. This is the end of the efforts to establish the tribunal, and now we are looking for alternatives to it.

One of the "alternatives" is the so-called "tribunal of grieving countries." The creation of such an institution of dubious legitimacy was announced by the Australian authorities, identifying not only Australia itself, but also Ukraine, Malaysia, Belgium, and the Netherlands as mourners. It is this composition of the "mourners" that official Canberra explained by the fact that specialists from these states are included in the composition of the investigative commission.

Recall that tomorrow (October 13), this very commission is going to present the results of the investigation into the MH-17 crash. Malaysian experts have stated in advance that they are dissatisfied with the investigation, because it ignores the questions asked by the Russian side and the data published by Russian weapons experts.

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[Irokez]

The same thing. And then the tribunal.
They would have made it for themselves, but immediately realized. The tail is tightened.

[sever.56]

The mustache ... Bobik died ... !!!

[iConst]

Quote: sever.56

The mustache ... Bobik died ... !!!

- Tryndets! Mourning countries! And do not forget to include Zimbabwe.

Yes, insanity grew stronger, and the mind ...

[gunter_laux]

Well, what kind of mind is there, where does it come from in empty "bots" filled with booze under the lid ...

[Kostyar]

Kotu do nehren, he licks eggs ...........

[Lelek]

Quote: iConst

Tryndets! Mourning countries!

Grieving countries, what kind of club is this? It reminds me personally:
(for the administrator - just peaches)

[MIKHALYCH1]

Declare the guilty with evidence first! A tribunal will be mandatory (as if you would not turn from an accusing party into an accused, for concealing facts, etc.)

[Alexey Boukin]

But what about Ukraine, then, to pretend to be a "grieving country"? She needs to grieve for a completely different reason. By the fact that it allowed its collapse by the fascist elements that came to power. This makes it sad not only for her, but also for us.
Mournfully for a nation that destroys its own power.
Well, and to hang the blame on an innocent is in the rules of the United States, posing as an "all-seeing eye" and having assumed the right to "arbiter of destinies" on Earth.

[SteelRatTV]

"The tribunal of the mourners ..." Immediately I remembered: "... with a mournful belly" (A. Tolstoy) And these, no other than on the whole head MORNING.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexey Bukin

But what about Ukraine, then, to pretend to be a "grieving country"? She needs to grieve for a completely different reason. By the fact that it allowed its collapse by the fascist elements that came to power. This makes it sad not only for her, but also for us.
Mournfully for a nation that destroys its own power.

The most interesting thing is that Australia most of all has to do with a Malaysian plane shot down in Ukraine. Some suspicious compassion ... In my opinion, it is financed from the same wallet as the cookies on the Maidan.

The next step is the unveiling of the Bandera Monument in Australia. And the kangaroo in Kuev ...

[kot28.ru]

And when will the tribunal of states affected by the Naglosaksonsky colonialism?

[vovanpain]

Quote: kot28.ru

And when will the tribunal of states affected by the Naglosaksonsky colonialism?

forgot to include the USSR in this list in 1991.

[Igor39]

I’m waiting tomorrow, the report will be ....

[alvog]

Ukraine allowed the passage of a civilian plane over the territory where military operations are being carried out (it was a pity to lose money), which became the main cause of the tragedy, here is the culprit of what happened. And how much more time will it take to understand this, or will this performance last as long as the Nesky will ask?

[Shuttle]

Quote: alvog

Ukraine allowed the passage of a civilian plane over the territory ...

Oh, do not tell!
"Ukraine has allowed ..."
Not Ukraine, but Benya Kolomoisky. And he didn’t allow, but ordered. And not a span, but a slaughter.
This once again emphasizes that the very country as a unitary state has long been gone. There are a handful of professional dribblers who are even ready to put in their pants, if only to grab something else and take it out, and take it out of the nenka.

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[unsinkable]

In general, everything is true, but about the monuments is cool.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Zoldat_A

The most interesting thing is that Australia most of all has to do with a Malaysian plane shot down in Ukraine. Some suspicious compassion ... In my opinion, it is financed from the same wallet as the cookies on the Maidan.

Alexei, Australia is legally a protectorate of Great Britain, the owner said to bark, here they are barking.

[unsinkable]

I’m not sure that they caught on. But * * tightened the tail * I agree 100%.

[Juborg]

Sami shot down themselves mourn?

[vodolaz]

So it is necessary to create a tribunal for the downed Iranian A300 in 1988, what is the little thing?

[Air Force captain]

I'm afraid the investigation of the crash of the Boeing will be overly ANGAGED !!

[Irokez]

Quote: Air Force Captain

I'm afraid the investigation of the crash of the Boeing will be overly ANGAGED !!

And why should the investigation be afraid so biased against Russia in favor of Ukraine. But there are still too many accidents and coincidences that led to disaster, and it’s better to quietly cover up this investigation, which they are trying to do and want to take the investigation aside.
"Pug knows whose meat he ate."

[iConst]

Quote: Air Force Captain

I'm afraid the investigation of the crash of the Boeing will be overly ANGAGED !!

- I get the impression that all this investigation and the materials are collected so that they can be turned in any direction.
And the pendocs are waiting - they will be able to set Russia up - they will dump Mr. Beggar, take root in f .. dill - they will dump everything on them.

But time goes on and they are standing in a row - Russia has not framed.

Add .: And it is possible that there will be a conclusion "It was Buk, but where he came from - fifty-fifty (ie f / z).

[Svetlana]

The tribunal with the powers of the party of beer lovers.

[Same lech]

According to the Dutch diplomat, such a step had to be taken in connection with the clear position of the Russian Federation in the UN Security Council.

Bummer ... the times when RUSSIA allowed itself to be flogged are gone.
On the other hand, we need to create our own tribunal for such cases.

After all, KUCHMA did not suffer punishment for killing dozens of passengers on a flight ...

A severe plane crash that occurred on October 4, 2001. Over the Black Sea, the Siberian Airlines airliner Tu-154M crashed on an SBI1812 flight on the Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk route. All 66 passengers and 12 crew members were killed. According to the conclusion of the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC), the plane was shot down by the Ukrainian S-200 anti-aircraft missile,

And I remember his words ... well, think you’ve knocked down ... lousy freak ...

[kil 31]

Russia has made its position very clear with a veto. This is the end of the efforts to establish a tribunal, and now we are looking for alternatives to it.. Russia has declared that it is not necessary to make it extreme. You want striped want to make it extreme. Russia does not like it.

[Amurets]

Yesterday there was already a statement that the report was postponed to February.

[Lelek]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

And I remember his words ... well, think you’ve knocked down ... lousy freak ...

Too many in the world of such uro doo divorced.

[AdekvatNICK]

I'm waiting for the funniest report on a plane crash in the world in history.

[vorobey]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

I'm waiting for the funniest report on a plane crash in the world in history.

yes even let them publish something ... yesterday we just discussed it ... and still there will be no report ... if I am mistaken, I undertake to shout to the crow three times ... Atalef, Sanya, where are you ... you wanted to argue ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: vorobey

... Atalef, Sanya, where are you ... you wanted to argue ...

Che you scream, you don’t see everyone is sleeping. No one gives a damn about the report.
If someone publishes something, then there will be something like the following.
Boeing was hit by a rocket and that’s it Boring, uninteresting and trite.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Che you scream, you don’t see everyone is sleeping.

Not all, or rather, someone just ate.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Nobody cares about the report.

do you think everyone? look tomorrow

Quote: Alexander Romanov

If someone publishes something, then there will be something like this. The Boeing was hit by a rocket and that’s all

Sanya report will be complete. with all the calculations and evidence. Who, Than and where.
We’ll check tomorrow. or I don’t understand anything in the Dutch.

[iConst]

Quote: atalef

or I don’t understand anything in the Dutch.

- And how do you like the course of Dutch mannerism? And the Utrecht Karavagists?

Joke ...

[atalef]

Quote: iConst

? A Utrecht Karavagist

I love Caravaggio, and the small Dutch are just a masterpiece

[atalef]

Quote: iConst

? A Utrecht Karavagist

I love Caravaggio, and the small Dutch are just a masterpiece

[Amurets]

atalef! There will be nothing, in the first place of the report. On Sunday, the commission of inquiry announced that the report was postponed supposedly to February 2016. Therefore, a statement followed that Holland was leaving the tribunal.

[srelock]

Quote: atalef

the report will be complete. with all the calculations and evidence. Who, Than and where. We’ll check tomorrow. or I don’t understand anything in the Dutch.

Most likely, the report will describe in detail that the plane crashed under unclear circumstances and probably under the influence of an external force that cannot be overcome. There should not be any "shot down" in the report, otherwise all responsibility will automatically fall on Ukraine. Other options are not provable.

[vovanpain]

But the mourning mothers of Teresa are all itchy about one place about the Boeing tribunal, it would be better if it was so itchy about the tribunal about ukrokhunt crimes in the Donbass.

[Wolka]

indeed, the cart cannot roll in front of the horse ... first finish the investigation of the case and then try to blame and punish

[Executer]

It can be seen ... if you harness the other way around. What they tried to do. Only ICAO can draw any conclusions. And these attempts are a caricature of the investigation. ICAO typically does an RESEARCH rather than an investigation.

[aszzz888]

The results of the investigation can be predicted.
This is a custom-made investigation, created under the guidance of the mericatos, with the unequivocal refutation of ALL these facts.
Does it go any further?

[Scoun]

And why is he silent about the discontent of the Malaysians? and indeed.

An article titled "Russians are outraged by the Dutch investigation" appeared in the oldest Malaysian newspaper "The New Straits Times" two days before the announced date of the publication of the report of the Dutch Security Council, leading the case of the sinking of the "Boeing" near Donetsk. Until this moment, the course of the investigation was closed. But the Malaysian journalists got a letter from the deputy head of the Federal Air Transport Agency Oleg Storchevoy addressed to the President of the International Civil Aviation Organization, which is investigating plane crashes all over the world. The Russian side does not consider the investigation carried out to be complete and impartial.
"The investigation team, instead of first examining the nature of the damage to the nose of the aircraft and the fuselage, and then drawing logical and final conclusions, immediately announced that the airliner was shot down by a Buk anti-aircraft missile system, moreover, from that place, which was indicated immediately after the disaster, "the letter says.

See the original material at http://www.1tv.ru/news/social/293921

[Mikhail m]

There will be a report, the reason will be announced, but the culprit will not be identified. Everyone "knows" that they are Russia and Putin. And in light of recent events, I would not be surprised if it is announced that the Boeing was shot down by Caliber from the Caspian Sea.

[rererilka]

Sapsem stole, it seems Locked on the tribunal, at least some, but the tribunal

[mr.vasilievich]

At first, an adequate investigation - then a tribunal.

[venaya]

Quote: mr.vasilievich

At first, an adequate investigation - then a tribunal.

They are so not interested, according to their rules: First, the accusation of the unprofitable, then the punishment of them in the form of sanctions, then the tribunal of third-party countries, and only after that, the investigation can be carried out indefinitely, it is no longer interesting and does not matter, since the thing is done, and what else can be said, the meaning disappears.

[Aksakal_07]

It is time to start the process of creating an international tribunal for judging the crimes of the Kiev Maidan junta.

[Executer]

More specifically, a tribunal over these "investigators"!

[Fox_1959]

... identifying not only Australia itself, but also Ukraine as a mourner

Well, that’s how it is certainly so ... Where is the West without a grieving Ukraine. She shoots her people with sorrow in her eyes and on her face (Poroshenko and Yaytsenyuk, at least) ... Two dozen hellish lads. True, the West does not care that the rest of the world perceives these two as two big piles of shit.

[nazar_0753]

It seems to me that there is no point in following this investigation. The Americans will not be able to use Russian research, experimental results, etc., because it is clear that in this case all the blame will be placed on them, and if they try to blame Russia, our competent people will always be able to declare the conclusions of the "experts" false and provide evidence of this. So I guess this story has run out

[33 Watcher]

Tomorrow we will receive a report in the style of: maybe rain, maybe snow, maybe, or maybe not. And the topic with Boeing will be drowned in oblivion ... The investigation has apparently come to a standstill, you can’t call the real culprits, and the desired, appointed ones can also resist, it’s also dangerous ... So I thought.

[Gormenghast]

"Violinist is not needed" (Kin-Dza-Dza)

Let ICAO understand as it should.

Let the ICC (in which Russia is not involved, and Ukraine, as the most democratic country - apparently yes) catch the drunk ukro-Buk operators who launched the ukro-rocket through a peaceful Boeing.

[sinukvl]

That's it, Bobik is dead !!! And now we need to demand an objective and open investigation into this case and bring the perpetrators to criminal responsibility, and not to shift it from a sore point to a healthy one and blur the facts. Raised the wind, get a storm.

[Masya masya]

It doesn’t stick together, they will continue to stick ...

[roskot]

We grieve too. Love. Remember.
But double standards will not pass. We will follow strictly.

[K-50]

Russia very clearly stated its position with the help of a veto. This is the end of the efforts to establish the tribunal, and now we are looking for alternatives to it.

What to stir up the water, they would publish the data that were sprinkled during the investigation and would dance from them, would make concrete claims with evidence.
True, who from Matrasia will allow them this?
It’s better to unfold everything on Russia and the militias!
It seems to me that all countries will be strongly affected by their non-constructive position in Russia, they will bite their elbows and their neighbor!

[jetfors_84]

And you need to start with these smokers who are investigating.

[evil partisan]

Wipe yourself, iron.

[siege]

Interesting. It turns out, Ukraine, a priori not guilty, because she mourns ... It looks strange. By analogy, the murder suspect in court sits in the hall, among the relatives of the victim and mourns in an embrace, together with his wife and children, according to the deceased, what is the picture?

[Victor-M]

One of the “alternative options” is the so-called “tribunal of grieving countries”.

Mourners for a failed attempt to blame Russia.

[drags33]

Everything is natural - there is NO what the "commission" wanted to present to the international tribunal, but what is, in general, can not be shown to anyone ... So it was not in vain that Russia "put" on them in the UN Security Council!

[Million]

Yes, the Netherlands to us * on this Boeing and on the dead, if only to please the states!

[AlexTires]

The Netherlands declares that, unfortunately, there will not be a tribunal, since the #MH17 flight apparently was really shot down by Ukrainians - it’s possible to diverge ......

[Tra-ta-ta]

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[Stinger]

The idea has outlived itself. The device ate the money. But is it time to create a tribunal to investigate the actions of the Dutch commission?

[avia1991]

One of the “alternative options” is the so-called “tribunal of grieving countries”.

Risk, PI Ostan's henchmen! So after all, by analogy, you can create a "Tribunal of ONE Grieving Russia": for whom of THEM we will "grieve", our VKS will take care

[4ekist]

Quote: Lelek

Quote: The same LYOKHA

And I remember his words ... well, think you’ve knocked down ... lousy freak ...

Too many in the world of such uro doo divorced.

Is this one of the mourners too? It is strange in general that Ukraine is called a "grieving" country. This is just a mockery of the dead people.