Poroshenko about the "unique" American training program and the elections in the Donbass

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Petro Poroshenko said on Sunday on the air of Ukrainian television that next month, American specialists will begin to implement a "unique" expensive program for training units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reports RIA News.



“In November, the American side will launch a unique multi-million dollar training program for the Ukrainian armed forces and special forces,” the president said.

He also said that while in New York, he agreed to provide the Ukrainian army with non-lethal weapons, in particular “modern means of counter-battery combat.”

In addition, Poroshenko said that the Congress recently decided to allocate a significant amount next year for the defense needs of Ukraine.

As for the elections in the Donbass, according to the president, all the political parties of Ukraine should participate along with local candidates, otherwise the settlement of the situation in uncontrolled territories “will go to a remote corner”.

He recalled how in the negotiations of the "Norman Four" he firmly and clearly made it clear to Putin that the elections in the Donbas would be held according to Ukrainian laws.

Poroshenko said: “Without the Verkhovna Rada there will be no elections. Without elections in the occupied territories, a political settlement will go to a remote corner. ”

Earlier, the leader of the LPR, Igor Plotnitsky, stated that "the participation in elections in the republic of the Ukrainian parties involved in the military operation in the Donbas and the blockade of the region is excluded." According to him, the elections in the republic are postponed only in order to “give Kiev a chance to fulfill its obligations under the Minsk agreements.”
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  1. +15
    12 October 2015 10: 50
    The uniqueness of this program was that ukrov taught to throw their dead and wounded on the battlefield? Such meanness is not taught in the Soviet and Russian army.
    1. +43
      12 October 2015 10: 53
      How did he get everyone!

      Message from the militia with the callsign "Sych"

      "I'll start with the situation. The situation at the front is tense. The enemy is actively using the" assigned "weapons. In particular, tanks and mortars of 120 mm, Bakhmutka and the front in the Popasnoy area are under the blows. But our response often arrives at them. ! Enemy DRGs are trying to cross the front, but our machine guns interfere with them. After each of their sorties, patrols are combing the territory behind our defensive. Suddenly some group broke. So 2 DRGs were already discovered and destroyed. According to losses, there are 5-6 wounded in days and damaged, sometimes destroyed armor.Every day the enemy has at least 1 two hundredth.
      Regarding politics ... At first I didn’t understand the joke with the postponement of the elections, and the postponement of something else militarily ... I talked with friends and gathered info ... The conflict is being dragged and frozen. Not ready ... Neither we, nor Ukrainians ... Although the pace of our training is perhaps even higher than theirs. So, a rotation should take place in a week, and we will spend 3 days on vacation, and then for a month of landfills.
      A question to the "levers" why they are doing a large (2 times more since February), trained and well-armed army ... A strange drain of some kind ... which I do not see for some reason. After the withdrawal of weapons, Ukraine should adopt a law on elections agreed with the LPNR. That is, at least 2 conditions, this is without underwater ... So far, no condition has been met. And not the fact that it will be completed before February 21! And if it is not fulfilled, then consequently the elections must either be postponed again or abandon the Minsk Way. What will happen, we will follow. I personally intend to start worrying only when the enemy at least fulfills 2 conditions, and we will also fulfill it. Regarding statements that our army is incapable of combat. I hear this only from those who are either in Dill, or in Russia ... Those who are acting in the army of the LPR do not say this for some reason. Moreover, here they are sure that the enemy's army is more incapable of combat ... I myself see combat effectiveness. But I don’t make you believe. I ask you to watch and listen to the acting people of Givi, Motorola, Dremov, etc. I am completely sure of the combat effectiveness before the March units. In the fighting efficiency of the new, I am confident in the majority. The problem with interaction is being solved now. In addition, commanders are trained, who must quickly react to any maneuvers and actions of the enemy. Now our intelligence is also actively working. We almost all know what they have there (we cannot be sure of clarity).
      Regarding the situation in Syria, it is very remarkable that as soon as something starts to work out there. The West begins to threaten, and we have skeptics known from the comments about Novorossia .... The Syrian army, Kurds and the Aerospace Forces are advancing - again a bunch of articles about Syria, in which you can find opinions from "this is the new Afghan" to "Russia after victory in Syria, he will see a new prepared enemy at his borders. " I will not throw accusations. I will simply say that I do not agree with this view of the situation. Sorry, I would like to tell you more, but you need to go back to the position. Good night everybody!"
      1. +22
        12 October 2015 10: 54
        The slogan "Let's strangle corruption" was recognized as extremist in Ukraine as calling for the violent overthrow of the existing system.
        1. +1
          12 October 2015 10: 56
          unique multimillion-dollar program for training Ukrainian
          unique, fabulous dolbo ....! (film "Down House")
          1. +12
            12 October 2015 11: 02
            All the uniqueness of this program is summed up in two words "multi-million dollar program".
            1. avg
              +11
              12 October 2015 11: 07
              The Syrian opposition has already been taught under such a unique costly program - 500 people, for 500 million. Only 5, obviously, "especially gifted" remained, the rest went to the separatists.
              Now "Super cut" and come to Nenka, why not rejoice. good
            2. +3
              12 October 2015 11: 14
              Quote: Cap-3 of the USSR
              All the uniqueness of this program is summed up in two words "multi-million dollar program".

              Directly ripped off my keyboard. good Ukraine would have some other program to dig, for example, its own independent sea. Or let the Yankes pay them a space program - a cosmodrome and other toys ... That would be a program like a program! "Multi-billion dollar"!
              1. +3
                12 October 2015 11: 18
                let the fence first be built on the border with Russia .... Do not have to fenced off
                1. +3
                  12 October 2015 12: 03
                  Upon learning that the Russian Federation struck ISIS at a distance of 1500 km, Ukraine expanded the defensive ditch and established yet another row of netting - netting, backing it with sticks and old tires
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            3. +7
              12 October 2015 11: 35
              Quote: Cap-3 USSR
              All the uniqueness of this program is summed up in two words "multi-million dollar program".

              What's the point? Ruin has nothing to fight!

              Vasily Volga: Yaresko leaves Ukraine, no more money

              PLANE FOR BRIGHTLY
              Stream events. Everything twists, as in the epicenter of a hurricane.
              War is over. Defaulted. “Heroes” have returned from the front and these “heroes” do not want to work. They will march around Kiev, throw grenades and scare Poroshenko. 70% of Ukrainian industry does not work. Loans do not give. # Yaresko is leaving.
              Yesterday, the American Wall Street Journal, according to The Wall Street Journal, published an interview with our finance minister, in which the proud Jaresko stated that she had done everything she could for Ukraine and considered her historic mission accomplished.
              Of course, she could continue to work as Minister of Finance, but since finances in Ukraine are over, she has nothing more to do here. And since the evil Ukrainian ministers do not want to reform anything else, she can stop her business trip at any moment and go home.
              In a word, “I’m no longer going here. A carriage to me, a carriage! ”
              And the carriage is already standing at the Borispol airport. Modern, comfortable and with champagne
        2. +12
          12 October 2015 11: 14
          Yep ...
          And here is what Ukrainians think about Poroshenko / Waltzman himself and the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ...
          (Please note this is Live, as the truth is, the womb laughing)
          1. +4
            12 October 2015 11: 43
            No, well said the aunt, and, most importantly, politely. Although both of these preziks (Poroshenko and Obama) deserve stronger comparisons.
            1. +1
              12 October 2015 13: 06
              Quote: Fox_1959
              No, well said the aunt, and, most importantly, politely

              Alexander also did not offend anyone. He simply lucidly described the future of the citizens of his country.
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      3. +1
        12 October 2015 10: 57
        Little pig, little pig. Well, the pig face !?
        Most likely Piglet will hide in the United States. question? What will he do with pig brains?
        how is Bzezhinsky? yes to this idiot before "this" even, as to China on foot
        1. 0
          12 October 2015 12: 39
          The deceitful, helpless and absolutely inadequate, killed thousands of civilians in Novorossia, ruined and practically liquidated the state - a vivid example when criminals are in power with a full set of state instruments. And what is the "uniqueness" of the US program. In the fact that over the past decade not a single victory has been won, have all wars ended in complete failure?
      4. +1
        12 October 2015 11: 32
        Poroshenko has an unenviable fate ... to be in the eyes of adequate humanity a fabulous idiot, a liar and a butcher.
        And in the next world you’ll be counted - a pet ... ry counted out ... all your descendants will undo the curse that you put on it yourself
      5. 0
        12 October 2015 13: 28
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Regarding politics ... At first I didn’t understand the joke with the postponement of the elections, and the postponement of something else militarily ... I talked with friends and gathered info ... The conflict is being dragged and frozen. Not ready...

        ---------------------
        The transfer of Minsk-2 to 2016 is generally a brilliant diplomatic move ... Not only is the conflict frozen, but we are pushing the implementation of Minsk-2 to Merkel and Hollande, they are now unable to disentangle with the flow of refugees, and then there is a heated conflict on their borders. ..
      6. 0
        12 October 2015 14: 29
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Message from the militia with the callsign "Sych"

        Discussion of the "childish talk" of this "international military expert and observer" even at "Russian Spring" stopped.
    2. +4
      12 October 2015 10: 54
      It's already disgusting and disgusting to look at this face in the photo ... My whole soul is now in Syria!
      1. +6
        12 October 2015 11: 10
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        It's already disgusting and disgusting to look at this face in the photo ... My whole soul is now in Syria!

        What about this?
        1. +6
          12 October 2015 11: 19
          Quote: Voha_krim
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          It's already disgusting and disgusting to look at this face in the photo ... My whole soul is now in Syria!

          What about this?

          If she takes off her embroidery, then it’s normal!)))) I remember the national costumes of the peoples of the USSR and always respect them ...
    3. +6
      12 October 2015 10: 55
      the American side will launch a unique multi-million dollar training program for the Ukrainian armed

      We’ve already seen something similar in Syria. Somehow, mysteriously, 500 of Baku’s cartoons disappeared. Sawing my friend, we’re sawing ...
    4. +3
      12 October 2015 11: 02
      What? Even more unique than the training program of the so-called "Syrian opposition" 5 people for $ 500 million
      1. +4
        12 October 2015 11: 10
        Quote: Fregate
        Even more unique than the training program of the so-called "Syrian opposition" 5 people for $ 500 million

        Solovyov in "Sunday Evening" once suggested to Michael Bohm to dig in this direction. He said that after this investigation, Michael Bohm will become America's most famous journalist.

        In my opinion, such money - 100 lyamo raccoons per unit - even the Terminator is not worth it ... laughing And what kind of "Robocops" in Syria the American instructors turned out - everyone saw ...
    5. +3
      12 October 2015 11: 05
      He recalled how in the negotiations of the "Norman Four" he firmly and clearly made it clear to Putin that the elections in the Donbas would be held according to Ukrainian laws.
      A short joke on the topic: - Is it possible to pee on your bosses? - Sure! Just do not unzip your fly! laughing
    6. +7
      12 October 2015 11: 05
      Quote: Maxom75
      The uniqueness of this program was that ukrov taught to throw their dead and wounded on the battlefield? Such meanness is not taught in the Soviet and Russian army.

      I saw an article on the censornet where the ukrovoyaks, when liberating a village from the separatists, "discovered an unnamed burial of Russian soldiers." In the foreground is a wooden cross with a sign "Unknown Soldier", in the background - some men are either unloading coffins from the car, or loading onto it. The article said that the fact that the soldiers were Russian was established after the exhumation.

      And now the most interesting - coffins cleanwithout land. And in general, the fact that the coffins killed upholstered in a yellow-black cloth. Have you seen somewhere that the coffins of dead military personnel in Russia were yellow-black? On censornet, you’re probably used to lying so brazenly that they don’t even bother with Photoshop.

      I would not be surprised if I saw this photo in another place and with a different signature. But on the censor, yellow-black coffins, and even with Russian soldiers inside ... Quite Ukraine jumped its head on the Maidan ...

      Here, as far as I remember, even zinc was tightened in red.
    7. +1
      12 October 2015 11: 16
      Chocolate has one feature: it can utter a bunch of words that do not add up to the whole picture. So now nothing happened in my head.
    8. +8
      12 October 2015 11: 20
      Quote: Maxom75
      The uniqueness of this program was that ukrov taught to throw their dead and wounded on the battlefield? Such meanness is not taught in the Soviet and Russian army.

      So dill for them the Papuans bought for cookies are not people, but fabulous brains
    9. 0
      12 October 2015 12: 25
      We have already seen this program in Syria with moderate opposition. wassat
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  3. +4
    12 October 2015 10: 50
    “In November, the American side will launch a unique multi-million dollar training program for the Ukrainian armed forces and special forces,” the president said.


    This is something like training the 30th brigade of the moderate opposition in SYRIA .... or the super troops of SAAKASHVILI in GEORGIA ... don’t tell my slippers.
    A good cut of US budget money.
    1. +1
      12 October 2015 10: 55
      Do not forget Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
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  4. +1
    12 October 2015 10: 51
    Yeah, the Americans have already tested this unique technique on the "moderate Syrian oppositionists" !!!
    We all know how it ended.
  5. +2
    12 October 2015 10: 52
    "Sometimes chewing is better than talking" !!! (stimorol)
  6. +2
    12 October 2015 10: 53
    Yeah, the unique American technique for training warriors how Georgia came in handy in 2008 laughing
    When will this people stop jumping? ... request
    1. 0
      12 October 2015 12: 38
      When will this people stop jumping? ... ,,
      Alas, not soon, they completely washed their brains. The media is a terrible force.
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  8. +1
    12 October 2015 10: 54
    It would be better to attend to how the country survives the winter.
  9. +3
    12 October 2015 10: 55
    It is interesting, and how is he going to force the APU to fight, when the country will default and the catastrophic fall of the hryvnia? Although, of course. He needs to say something every day. Continuously speak, chattering his horror of the inevitable. I can imagine how the Lipetsk factory is the only island of stability in the spreading world that warms his soul.
  10. +5
    12 October 2015 10: 56
    How many such "unique" expensive programs the United States already had! And in the Arab world, and in Europe ... But they all ended in blood and unnecessary numerous victims. Who said that now it will be different, and, Pan Waltzman?
    1. +2
      12 October 2015 11: 05
      Waltzman is the president of blood.
      War criminal.
  11. +1
    12 October 2015 10: 56
    Some have already been taught. They are going to learn dill.
    1. +2
      12 October 2015 11: 03
      Quote: roskot
      Some have already been taught. They are going to learn dill.

      Yeah, how to bomb hospitals. But these are dill and without them they can.
  12. +4
    12 October 2015 10: 57
    Sometimes you look at some people and think: “Yeah, the stork dropped you on the way!” ..
    1. +1
      12 October 2015 12: 04
      Yes, he probably dropped it with great zeal.
  13. +4
    12 October 2015 10: 58
    Regarding statements that our army is not combat-ready. I hear this only from those who are either in Dill, or in Russia ...


    NOVOROSSIA or Lao PDR (as you want) have been living independently for two years now and I think people will not be able to get people back under KIEV’s power so they won’t be able to talk about MINSK-2 ... 3..4, etc.
  14. +5
    12 October 2015 10: 59
    He recalled how in the negotiations of the "Norman Four" he firmly and clearly made it clear to Putin that the elections in the Donbas would be held according to Ukrainian laws.
    How firmly and clearly he made it clear to Putin that the whole world saw
  15. 0
    12 October 2015 11: 00
    “He recalled how, during the negotiations of the Normandy Four, he firmly and clearly made it clear to Putin that the elections in Donbass would be held according to Ukrainian laws” - the eco Piglet went overboard! laughing
  16. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 02
    Poroshenko again did not understand what he said. Who the Americans have not trained since the Contras in 81. An increase in the combat effectiveness of the "trained" was not noticed anywhere.
  17. +4
    12 October 2015 11: 03
    A unique multi-million dollar land preparation program. fool
  18. +5
    12 October 2015 11: 03
    And when it was the second army (after Russia) in Europe! With a powerful industrial and scientific potential ... These are politicians like Waltzman and turn the country into a "laughing stock" ...
  19. 0
    12 October 2015 11: 04
    And on Poroshenko’s forehead, smeared with green. Or it seemed to me?
  20. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 04
    Whoever is rich will become even richer. Multi-million dollar money laundering. How to go to latrine Nahuat probably dill. When did they come under fire? Who and what can be taught if he himself never fought for the present?
  21. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 08
    Soon we will see how Parashenko will kill just like Gaddafi wink
  22. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 08
    Poroshenko went to the ass ....
  23. +3
    12 October 2015 11: 09
    "He recalled how in the negotiations of the Normandy Four firmly and clearly made clear to Putin"...

    In the morning - and such a positivist ... Poroshenko ... firmly and clearly ... made it clear ... to Putin ...

    Gunpowder, what are you talking about ??? Well at least he didn’t say that he “gave it in the teeth”, like the whole of Russia, which you also loudly stated ...
  24. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 14
    “In November, the American side will launch a unique multi-million dollar training program for the Ukrainian armed forces and special forces”

    After reading this, Saakashvili remembered for some reason. How he was puffed at the parade in Tbilisi with pride in the army, which was prepared by the Americans and the Britons. Fizzed so that he decided to attack South Ossetia. The result is known to all. And this clown of a certain (or not quite) nationality is fussing like a tie-eater.
  25. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 14
    we see how American advisers train military specialists on the scandal in Syria and the experience of the war in Georgia. The Americans spent on Syrian bandits even more than going to Ukrainians. But this is not the main thing. Future generations of Ukrainians will work out this money, because in any case the Americans will present an account, although Ukrainians will never see this money. Well, Americans do not have the experience of war with an equal adversary, moreover, even more creative, whose soldiers are more motivated and devoid of some complex and restrictions in the rules of warfare. Khokhlam would change his mind and take as training personnel soldiers who have proven themselves on the eastern front. In any case, there are such and it would be cheaper and more useful at times. But this should not bother us at all ...
  26. 0
    12 October 2015 11: 15
    Americans helping the "Syrian opposition" have lost 500 million greens, and even more so, American aid will be mastered by local arms dealers.
  27. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 16
    As for the elections in Donbass, according to the president, all political parties of Ukraine should participate in them, along with local candidates,

    Well, Potroshenko bent. Chuckle.
    1. 0
      12 October 2015 12: 59
      well, let them try. That's how I think that this election should end with a bloodless liberation of the occupied territories from the junta. As if according to Ukrainian laws, the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, the subjects seem to be perceived in full, which means that the power that they choose will be distributed to all territories and those under occupation. And the majority of the population lives under the militia, and if everything goes right and normal, it is likely to vote for the militia in the majority, even despite the proponents from the west of Ukraine. I think that the junta understands this and is unlikely to allow elections according to the rules of Minsk 2 ... And it would be interesting to see how everyone would behave later ...
  28. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 21
    Quote: vodolaz
    Chocolate has one feature: it can utter a bunch of words that do not add up to the whole picture. So now nothing happened in my head.


    a squirrel whispered to him ...
  29. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 22
    This is who, Petyunya made it clear to Putin firmly and clearly. Yes, he was sitting there, he was not afraid to say too much. And just do let him remember about "Caliber".
  30. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 22
    He recalled how in the negotiations of the "Norman Four" he firmly and clearly made it clear to Putin that the elections in the Donbas would be held according to Ukrainian laws.


    Judging by his face, in the running photo, they made it clear "firmly and clearly" from Roshen to Petski.
    Again it got drunk and tangled the coast. laughing
  31. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 36
    “In November, the American side will launch a unique multi-million dollar training program for the Ukrainian armed forces and special forces,” the president said.


    The key word is "multimillion". Only here is how dill do not teach, they are fighting according to the method of ISIS. Those. successfully until the chomp gets
  32. +2
    12 October 2015 11: 38
    He recalled how in the negotiations of the “Norman Four” he firmly and clearly made clear to Putin ...


    Ay, Pug, know she is strong, since barking around the corner .....
  33. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 41
    Poros would better explain to his Svidomo how to survive the winter and not die of cold and hunger
  34. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 42
    Parsley in a dream and in reality. A summary of recent dreams.
  35. +1
    12 October 2015 11: 57
    A unique training program for APU-how to properly wear diapers.
    The provision of non-lethal weapons is just diapers.
    I definitely made it clear to Putin, not exactly diapers + Valerian.
    ADVERTISING. wassat PAMPERS - the best non-lethal weapons of the USA, America is proud of its goods in the world market. wink
  36. +1
    12 October 2015 12: 05
    (He also said that while in New York, he agreed to provide the Ukrainian army with non-lethal weapons, in particular, “modern means of counter-battery combat.”

    In addition, Poroshenko said that Congress recently decided to allocate a significant amount next year for the defense needs of Ukraine.

    As for the elections in the Donbass, according to the president, all the political parties of Ukraine should participate along with local candidates, otherwise the settlement of the situation in uncontrolled territories “will go to a remote corner”.

    He recalled how during the negotiations of the “Norman Four” he firmly and clearly made clear to Putin that the elections in the Donbass will be held according to Ukrainian laws.)

    The other day Winst Churchilev said: "The truth is so precious that it must be guarded by battalions of lies."
    Pedril Waltzman is a good student and has mastered this subject of clever Anglo-Saxon perfectly. bully
  37. +4
    12 October 2015 12: 10
    As for the elections in Donbass, according to the president, all political parties of Ukraine should participate in them, along with local candidates,Chito then I have a poor idea of ​​how Yarosh's fascists or Lyashka's "advanced" party will participate in the elections in the Donbass. And agitation, but propaganda. And which of the candidates will go to the "mortal battle". After all that they have done there, it is better to let them not appear there at all.
  38. +2
    12 October 2015 12: 25
    Unique? Petya got confused in terminology, everything is "exclusive" laughing
  39. 0
    12 October 2015 12: 47
    The key word here is a multi-million dollar program fellow Petya will not get tired of doing two things in life: sawing and thumping ... drinks
  40. 0
    12 October 2015 12: 48
    The unique training has already been tested on the Georgian army and "moderate" terrorists from Syria. The results are stunning.
  41. +2
    12 October 2015 12: 59
    ...............................
  42. +2
    12 October 2015 13: 10
    American instructors will prepare from ukrokhokhlov superheroev maidana.
  43. +1
    12 October 2015 14: 12
    Americans can, just what a unique multi-million dollar program in Syria is worth, this is the standard for Ukraine!
  44. +1
    12 October 2015 14: 40
    we know how the United States teaches) Iraq, the Syrian opposition, theft is stolen, but 10 people will learn
  45. +1
    12 October 2015 18: 50
    Peter no longer pour ...
  46. +1
    12 October 2015 19: 21
    “In November, the American side will launch a unique multi-million dollar training program for the Ukrainian armed forces and special forces,” the president said.

    The Americans refused to train Syrian basmachi and began to train dill bully
  47. 0
    12 October 2015 21: 53
    The fool continues to amuse us
  48. 0
    12 October 2015 22: 37
    Again, did not bite.
  49. 0
    13 October 2015 07: 27
    You can safely not listen to what the Pig "squeals".
  50. 0
    13 October 2015 11: 38
    And what batteries didn’t please them. Poor Energizer with Duracell gray clouds thickened over them!

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