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Peru can opt for Chinese tanks

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China offers Peru to acquire from it one hundred major tanks VT4 (MBT-3000). Peruvian authorities are still vacillating, reports ВПК.name with a link to the portal defense-blog.com.




The Peruvian government has not yet decided which tanks to choose - Russian or Chinese. The Chinese are trying to put their armored vehicles in a more favorable light. In particular, they assured potential buyers that from now on, “all tank components and ammunition are made exclusively in China (the rights to the gearbox of the previous version MVT-2000 tank belonged to Ukraine),” the newspaper writes.

According to him, the cost of one Chinese tank is about $ 4 million, while the price of the American Abrams is $ 6,9 million (the value of the Russian tank is not given).

The portal also reports on Pakistan’s intention to manufacture Chinese VT-4, which will be called Al-Hyde, on its territory under license.

Help edition: “VT-4 is equipped with a 125 mm cannon capable of firing both projectiles and missiles (when firing a TUR, the firing range is 5000 m). An armor-piercing feathered projectile is able to pierce armor 1000 mm thick at a distance of 2000 m. Ammunition is 38 shots, including 22 in the automatic loader, rate of fire - 8 shots / min. "
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  1. Maxom75
    Maxom75 12 October 2015 10: 05 New
    +23
    It is necessary for the Peruvians to think, especially after the tank biathlon, when the Chinese vomited caterpillars due to hollowness in the body of the fingers. It will be cool if, in the event of a battle, half gets up before reaching the enemy and is destroyed by him because of a factory marriage.
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 12 October 2015 10: 09 New
      +7
      it’s unfortunate but, but there were unpleasant moments with our technology ...
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 12 October 2015 10: 45 New
        +18
        Quote: Patton5
        there were unpleasant moments with our technology ...

        If you drive into the concrete wall at full speed with an 46 ton engine, you can not only tear the metal and lose the track guides, you can end up in the engine compartment from the driver’s drive point and find your tower aside.
      2. monah10
        monah10 12 October 2015 10: 48 New
        +20
        You do not show us a photo, but the percentage of failures and breakdowns per 1 unit of equipment, sound. As far as I remember, all countries traveled on our tanks. And you are practically the only fact that we are voicing. In Chinese, they themselves drove. At the same time, 2-3 times a day the equipment was changed due to failures and breakdowns. Statistics however. By the way, they put one of the Asian countries ATGM. The best in the world, according to them. Only half later worked, the rest can only be used with a baton. I don’t know about the performance characteristics or not.
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 12 October 2015 10: 42 New
      +10
      Quote: Maxom75
      when the Chinese caterpillar vomited

      Well, there they quickly changed the supplier.
      I, on the site of the Peruvians, on the contrary, was wary when I knew that ALL the components of the tank were made in China ...
    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 12 October 2015 11: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Maxom75
      It is necessary for the Peruvians to think, especially after the tank biathlon, when the Chinese vomited caterpillars due to hollowness in the body of the fingers. It will be cool if, in the event of a battle, half gets up before reaching the enemy and is destroyed by him because of a factory marriage.

      Yeah, I thought the same thing. Moreover, the Chinese were breaking their very own production vehicles, which are in service.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 12 October 2015 11: 14 New
        0
        In military technology, in addition to top indicators of speed, range, accuracy, etc., practicality in combat conditions and maintainability "in the field" play a very important role. Why do you need a “Ferrari” if it grunts immediately on the dirt road, and the “Niva” wouldn’t be so strong, but it’s exactly where you will go. soldier
  2. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 12 October 2015 10: 06 New
    +14
    We saw what are the Chinese tanks at the biathlon that took place in Russia! Good luck to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Peru.
    1. K-50
      K-50 12 October 2015 11: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: kod3001
      Good luck to the soldiers of the sun of Peru.

      The most unpleasant, in my opinion, those who decide on the procurement of a particular military equipment, as a rule, do not use it and do not exploit it. Hence the often-encountered kickback policy when purchasing it.
      if those who make decisions on procurement would exploit it, and even in real conditions, then the choice would be more thoughtful and not far-fetched. sad request
      1. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 12 October 2015 15: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: K-50

        The most unpleasant, in my opinion, those who decide on the procurement of a particular military equipment, as a rule, do not use it and do not exploit it. Hence the often-encountered kickback policy when purchasing it.
        if those who make decisions on procurement would exploit it, and even in real conditions, then the choice would be more thoughtful and not far-fetched. sad request

        The whole world would ride our tanks.
  3. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 12 October 2015 10: 11 New
    +8
    And what if the reliability competition is held between them? At the tank biathlon, Chinese equipment proved to be not in the best light (especially last year)!
  4. vovanpain
    vovanpain 12 October 2015 10: 13 New
    +20
    Yes, China will earn more on spare parts than on the tanks themselves. In Peru, the wallet is probably dimensionless.
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    2. Seneca
      Seneca 12 October 2015 10: 17 New
      +8
      Yes, rather the opposite. But apparently they don’t know the Russian worldly wisdom "we are not so rich to buy cheap things" - in terms of cheapness they quickly become unusable and you need to buy again.
  5. SgaSuperblade
    SgaSuperblade 12 October 2015 10: 15 New
    +6
    The tower is already very similar to abrams. The Chinese in general, all the equipment is always similar to some kind)))
  6. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 12 October 2015 10: 22 New
    0
    The issue of cost. And how much are ours? And as I understand it, all of our tanks are modernized, and the Chinese are pushing that their tanks are a new development.
    1. gjv
      gjv 12 October 2015 10: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Cossack Ermak
      And how much are ours?

      Venezuela in 2012, 92 T-72 at 2,174 million dollars per car.
      Uganda in 2010 100 T-90S at 3,4 million dollars per car.
    2. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 12 October 2015 16: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Cossack Ermak
      and the Chinese stress that their tanks are a new development.

      Yeah, based on the old T-72.
  7. roskot
    roskot 12 October 2015 10: 31 New
    0
    Which country - such and tanks. They need them for the parade on the cobblestones.
  8. ssn18
    ssn18 12 October 2015 10: 36 New
    +3
    If you recall some pearls of folk art such as:
    - Chinese children do morning exercises, and at lunch they carry it to the Euroset;
    - Avaricious pays twice, stupid pays three times, sucker always pays;
    “There is a joke in every joke.”
    That, I think, it is possible to draw very correct conclusions. laughing
  9. Mercenary
    Mercenary 12 October 2015 10: 36 New
    0
    roskot!
    There are no paving stones in China or Peru, what kind of dirty hints?
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    2. gjv
      gjv 12 October 2015 10: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Mercenary
      In China, not in Peru, there are no paving stones

      Is this asphalt or laminate flooring? wassat Or is Beijing not China, and Moscow is not Russia?
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    4. gjv
      gjv 12 October 2015 11: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      In China, not in Peru, there are no paving stones

      And here it is - Lima - the capital of Peru (actually, so, if that).


      We take off our boots from our eyes and see that the streets are paved with paving stones, the flower beds are fenced with tires. fellow
  10. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 10: 37 New
    +1
    Our buy Peruvians! They are tested in real fighting ... Yes, and in the parades look spectacular and menacing ..
  11. kil 31
    kil 31 12 October 2015 10: 38 New
    0
    The Peruvian government has not yet decided which tanks to choose - Russian or Chinese. The article does not say which tanks they can buy from us. Peru is armed with the T 55, maybe they want the same. We seem to have them in storage. The article is not clear about us. request
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    2. gjv
      gjv 12 October 2015 11: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Kil 31
      Peru is armed with T 55

      Tanks: 165 T-55 (another 75 in storage); Light tanks: 96 AMX-13.

      T-55M1 aircraft of Peru. It differs from the T-55M in the absence of KUV 1K116-1 Bastion.
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 October 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    Ordinary marketing. He who speaks more complexly and whose pictures are more colorful, will sell his product.
  13. DMB3000
    DMB3000 12 October 2015 10: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Patton5
    it’s unfortunate but, but there were unpleasant moments with our technology ...

    So what. wing torn off. so it generally does not affect the speed. he bullets without them.
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 12 October 2015 14: 45 New
      0
      So what. wing torn off. so it generally does not affect the speed. he bullets without them
      you are extremely observant wink and the separation of the guide roller affects the speed?
  14. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 12 October 2015 10: 45 New
    +1
    The Chinese comrades are very tightly courting the Peruvians, and they hesitate. And they need to take the T-90SM, this is an intelligent car. I think if, in principle, the Uralvagon plant moves reasonably for the price. Yes, and I note, they won’t win tank biathlon on Chinese cars, then what’s the point take them? just for kickbacks?
  15. Thor
    Thor 12 October 2015 10: 48 New
    +1
    I think that: "... they assured potential buyers that henceforth" all components of the tank and ammunition are manufactured exclusively in China .. ", a very dubious argument from the Chinese side, because this is not a guarantee of quality! We can answer the same, and the quality of the Russian defense industry is more undeniable and famous in the world!
  16. Artyom
    Artyom 12 October 2015 11: 08 New
    0
    I think there are no suckers in Puru, field tests are simply being conducted on the ground, and the terrain is high-altitude, Chinese tanks are heavier and it is not known how they will manifest themselves in the mountains.
  17. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 12 October 2015 11: 32 New
    +1
    And we will soon have more ....
  18. Wolka
    Wolka 12 October 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    and a good product doesn’t need advertising ...
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 12 October 2015 12: 33 New
    +2
    China has made huge financial investments
    into the mining industry of Peru. For billions.

    How can I abandon the tanks? It is impolite ...
  20. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 12 October 2015 13: 39 New
    +3
    Arms shipments to Peru began in the USSR. The first Soviet-made aircraft that the Peruvian pilots met was a fighter - the Su-22 bomber. 32 single Su-22А and four two-seater Su-22У with a total value of 250 million dollars were purchased. In November, 1975 of the year for the armament of army aviation received 30 helicopters Mi-8T. In February and March 1978, 16 purchased by An-26 were transferred to the country. Airplanes in South American conditions did not perform well and were replaced by more modern An-32. In the same 1978, the X-NUMX Mi-6A transport helicopters were delivered. These giant helicopters were so much liked by the Peruvian military that after full wear they were replaced with more powerful Mi-6. In 26, a batch of X-NUMX Mi-1982A was purchased. In 12, Nicaragua managed to buy seven more crocodiles. In 24, Hungary bought the 1992 Mi-1992 for naval aviation. In 4-8, the Peruvian Air Force was able to acquire approximately 1992 Mi-94 and several An-20. Army aviation also has a small number of An-17 and 72 training IL-28. In 6, a contract was signed with Belarus for the supply of 103 MiG-1996, a pair of MiG-16UB, the same number of Su-29-x. MAPO "MiG" refused to maintain the purchased aircraft in summer condition. In the end, the parties came to an agreement: the Peruvians agreed to buy three brand new MiG-29SE in Russia, and in return, Russian specialists began to serve the entire MiG fleet.
    Thus, the Air Force of Peru consist modern MiG-29 and Su-25, 6 IL-103, 4 Mi-8T \ 17V, 12 Mi-25, 3 Mi-26, 12 Mi-2 and some Su-25.

    There were also active purchases of land weapons:
    280 T-55 tanks, currently only 50 in service.

    In order to replace the outdated T-55, a competition is held in which the main participants are T-90 and Leopard-2. Also, the Peruvians were offered the option of reworking the T-55 into heavy BTR-T and Terminator-type support vehicles.
    12 BTR-60
    30 PU ATGM 9P133 "Baby"
    1800 ATGM Baby "
    24 BM-21 "Grad" (in the 14 line)

    2 BM-13 "Katyusha", used for training
    20 BM-21P "Grad-P"
    36 130-mm guns M-46
    36 122-mm BG D-30
    32 ZSU-23-4 "Shilka"
    80 ZU-23-2
    14 СРК С-125 "Neva"

    288 ATGM "Kornet" and 200 MANPADS "Igla" delivered from Russia
    1. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 12 October 2015 16: 18 New
      0
      Thanks for the info from me +!