Peru can opt for Chinese tanks

China offers Peru to acquire from it one hundred major tanks VT4 (MBT-3000). Peruvian authorities are still vacillating, reports ВПК.name with a link to the portal defense-blog.com.

The Peruvian government has not yet decided which tanks to choose - Russian or Chinese. The Chinese are trying to put their armored vehicles in a more favorable light. In particular, they assured potential buyers that from now on, “all tank components and ammunition are made exclusively in China (the rights to the gearbox of the previous version MVT-2000 tank belonged to Ukraine),” the newspaper writes.

According to him, the cost of one Chinese tank is about $ 4 million, while the price of the American Abrams is $ 6,9 million (the value of the Russian tank is not given).

The portal also reports on Pakistan’s intention to manufacture Chinese VT-4, which will be called Al-Hyde, on its territory under license.

Help edition: “VT-4 is equipped with a 125 mm cannon capable of firing both projectiles and missiles (when firing a TUR, the firing range is 5000 m). An armor-piercing feathered projectile is able to pierce armor 1000 mm thick at a distance of 2000 m. Ammunition is 38 shots, including 22 in the automatic loader, rate of fire - 8 shots / min. "

Comments

[Maxom75]

It is necessary for the Peruvians to think, especially after the tank biathlon, when the Chinese vomited caterpillars due to hollowness in the body of the fingers. It will be cool if, in the event of a battle, half gets up before reaching the enemy and is destroyed by him because of a factory marriage.

[Patton5]

it’s unfortunate but, but there were unpleasant moments with our technology ...

[inkass_98]

Quote: Patton5

there were unpleasant moments with our technology ...

If you drive into the concrete wall at full speed with an 46 ton engine, you can not only tear the metal and lose the track guides, you can end up in the engine compartment from the driver’s drive point and find your tower aside.

[monah10]

You do not show us a photo, but the percentage of failures and breakdowns per 1 unit of equipment, sound. As far as I remember, all countries traveled on our tanks. And you are practically the only fact that we are voicing. In Chinese, they themselves drove. At the same time, 2-3 times a day the equipment was changed due to failures and breakdowns. Statistics however. By the way, they put one of the Asian countries ATGM. The best in the world, according to them. Only half later worked, the rest can only be used with a baton. I don’t know about the performance characteristics or not.

[inkass_98]

Quote: Maxom75

when the Chinese caterpillar vomited

Well, there they quickly changed the supplier.
I, on the site of the Peruvians, on the contrary, was wary when I knew that ALL the components of the tank were made in China ...

[vodolaz]

Quote: Maxom75

It is necessary for the Peruvians to think, especially after the tank biathlon, when the Chinese vomited caterpillars due to hollowness in the body of the fingers. It will be cool if, in the event of a battle, half gets up before reaching the enemy and is destroyed by him because of a factory marriage.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Moreover, the Chinese were breaking their very own production vehicles, which are in service.

[marlin1203]

In military equipment, in addition to top performance indicators of speed, range, accuracy, etc. Practicality in combat conditions and maintainability "in the field" play a very important role. Why "Ferrari", if it grunts immediately on the dirt road, and the "Niva" is not so fast, but just where it needs to get there.

[kodxnumx]

We saw what are the Chinese tanks at the biathlon that took place in Russia! Good luck to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Peru.

[K-50]

Quote: kod3001

Good luck to the soldiers of the sun of Peru.

The most unpleasant, in my opinion, those who decide on the procurement of a particular military equipment, as a rule, do not use it and do not exploit it. Hence the often-encountered kickback policy when purchasing it.
if those who make decisions on procurement would exploit it, and even in real conditions, then the choice would be more thoughtful and not far-fetched.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: K-50

The most unpleasant, in my opinion, those who decide on the procurement of a particular military equipment, as a rule, do not use it and do not exploit it. Hence the often-encountered kickback policy when purchasing it.
if those who make decisions on procurement would exploit it, and even in real conditions, then the choice would be more thoughtful and not far-fetched.

The whole world would ride our tanks.

[Voha_krim]

And what if the reliability competition is held between them? At the tank biathlon, Chinese equipment proved to be not in the best light (especially last year)!

[vovanpain]

Yes, China will earn more on spare parts than on the tanks themselves. In Peru, the wallet is probably dimensionless.

[Seneca]

Yes, rather the opposite. But apparently they do not know the Russian everyday wisdom "we are not rich enough to buy cheap things" - well, in terms of cheapness, they quickly become unusable and need to be bought again.

[SgaSuperblade]

The tower is already very similar to abrams. The Chinese in general, all the equipment is always similar to some kind)))

[Cossack Ermak]

The issue of cost. And how much are ours? And as I understand it, all of our tanks are modernized, and the Chinese are pushing that their tanks are a new development.

[gjv]

Quote: Cossack Ermak

And how much are ours?

Venezuela in 2012, 92 T-72 at 2,174 million dollars per car.
Uganda in 2010 100 T-90S at 3,4 million dollars per car.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Cossack Ermak

and the Chinese stress that their tanks are a new development.

Yeah, based on the old T-72.

[roskot]

Which country - such and tanks. They need them for the parade on the cobblestones.

[ssn18]

If you recall some pearls of folk art such as:
- Chinese children do morning exercises, and at lunch they carry it to the Euroset;
- Avaricious pays twice, stupid pays three times, sucker always pays;
“There is a joke in every joke.”
That, I think, it is possible to draw very correct conclusions.

[Mercenary]

roskot!
There are no paving stones in China or Peru, what kind of dirty hints?

[gjv]

Quote: Mercenary

In China, not in Peru, there are no paving stones

Is this asphalt or laminate flooring? Or is Beijing not China, and Moscow is not Russia?

[gjv]

Quote: Mercenary

In China, not in Peru, there are no paving stones

And here it is - Lima - the capital of Peru (actually, so, if that).

We take off our boots from our eyes and see that the streets are paved with paving stones, the flower beds are fenced with tires.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Our buy Peruvians! They are tested in real fighting ... Yes, and in the parades look spectacular and menacing ..

[kil 31]

The Peruvian government has not yet decided which tanks to choose - Russian or Chinese. The article does not say which tanks they can buy from us. Peru is armed with the T 55, maybe they want the same. We seem to have them in storage. The article is not clear about us.

[gjv]

Quote: keel 31

Peru is armed with T 55

Tanks: 165 T-55 (another 75 in storage); Light tanks: 96 AMX-13.

T-55M1 aircraft of Peru. It differs from the T-55M in the absence of KUV 1K116-1 Bastion.

[rotmistr60]

Ordinary marketing. He who speaks more complexly and whose pictures are more colorful, will sell his product.

[DMB3000]

Quote: Patton5

it’s unfortunate but, but there were unpleasant moments with our technology ...

So what. wing torn off. so it generally does not affect the speed. he bullets without them.

[Patton5]

So what. wing torn off. so it generally does not affect the speed. he bullets without them

you are extremely observant and the separation of the guide roller affects the speed?

[aleksandrs95]

The Chinese comrades are very tightly courting the Peruvians, and they hesitate. And they need to take the T-90SM, this is an intelligent car. I think if, in principle, the Uralvagon plant moves reasonably for the price. Yes, and I note, they won’t win tank biathlon on Chinese cars, then what’s the point take them? just for kickbacks?

[Thor]

I think that "... they have assured potential buyers that from now on" all components of the tank and ammunition are made exclusively in China .. "is a very dubious argument from the Chinese side, since this is not a guarantee of quality! We can answer the same, and the quality of the Russian defense industry is more indisputable and well-known in the world!

[Artyom]

I think there are no suckers in Puru, field tests are simply being conducted on the ground, and the terrain is high-altitude, Chinese tanks are heavier and it is not known how they will manifest themselves in the mountains.

[MIKHALYCH1]

And we will soon have more ....

[Wolka]

and a good product doesn’t need advertising ...

[voyaka uh]

China has made huge financial investments
into the mining industry of Peru. For billions.

How can I abandon the tanks? It is impolite ...

[Roman 1977]

Arms deliveries to Peru began during the Soviet era. The first Soviet-made aircraft that Peruvian pilots met was the Su-22 fighter-bomber. A total of 32 single-seat Su-22A and four two-seat Su-22U were purchased with a total value of $ 250 million. In November 1975, 30 Mi-8T helicopters were supplied to arm the army aviation. In February and March 1978, 16 purchased An-26s were transferred to the country. The planes in South American conditions did not show themselves well and were replaced by more modern An-32s. In the same 1978 6 Mi-6A transport helicopters were delivered. The Peruvian military liked these giant helicopters so much that, after complete wear and tear, they were replaced by more powerful Mi-26s. In 1982, a batch of 12 Mi-24A was purchased. In 1992, seven more crocodiles were bought in Nicaragua. In 1992, Hungary bought 4 Mi-8s for naval aviation. In 1992-94, the Peruvian Air Force was able to acquire approximately 20 Mi-17s and several An-72s. Army aviation also has a small number of An-28 and 6 training Il-103. In 1996, a contract was signed with Belarus for the supply of 16 MiG-29s, a pair of MiG-29UBs, and the same number of Su-25s. MAPO "MiG" refused to maintain the purchased aircraft in airworthy condition. In the end, the parties came to an amicable agreement: the Peruvians agreed to buy three brand new MiG-29SEs in Russia, and in return, Russian specialists began to service the entire fleet of MiGs.
Thus, the Air Force of Peru consist modern MiG-29 and Su-25, 6 IL-103, 4 Mi-8T \ 17V, 12 Mi-25, 3 Mi-26, 12 Mi-2 and some Su-25.

There were also active purchases of land weapons:
280 T-55 tanks, currently only 50 in service.

In order to replace the outdated T-55, a competition is being held in which the main participants are the T-90 and Leopard-2. Also, the Peruvians were offered the option of converting the T-55 into heavy armored personnel carriers-T and support vehicles of the Terminator type.
12 BTR-60
30 PU ATGM 9P133 "Baby"
1800 ATGM Baby "
24 BM-21 Grad (in service 14)

2 BM-13 "Katyusha", used for training
20 BM-21P "Grad-P"
36 130-mm guns M-46
36 122-mm BG D-30
32 ZSU-23-4 "Shilka"
80 ZU-23-2
14 SAM S-125 "Neva"

Russia delivered 288 Kornet ATGMs and 200 Igla MANPADS

[Lekxnumx]

Thanks for the info from me +!