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Police carbines family KS-23. Part four

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This is a continuation of an article about carbines of the KS-23 family. The first part is HERE.




KS-23K (Special carabiner, mm 23, short)

KS-23K is a further development of the theme “Thrush”. It was created by experts of the Tula KBP in 1998, based on the main components and mechanisms of the KS-23 and KS-23M Drozd carbines, namely the trigger and the barrel.

The KS-23K was born because the security officers were not quite satisfied with the previous modifications of the KS family carbines because of the small capacity of the tubular stores used in them, the low rate of fire and the inability to quickly replace one type of used ammunition with another, for example cartridges with gas grenades for bashing or shotgun cartridges. In addition, the dimensions of the above samples weapons proved to be unsuitable for use in cramped spaces.

Taking into account the wishes of the operators, the Tula gunsmiths decided to equip the new model with a detachable box magazine with a capacity for 7 cartridges, and
To make the weapon smaller in size, the “Bull-pap” layout was used with all the technical solutions that are inherent in this layout.

Police carbines family KS-23. Part four

The only photo KS-23K (Special Carabiner, 23mm, Short)


The reloading is carried out with the help of a mobile forearm, which is rigidly connected to the bolt.
Thanks to the prompts of the users of “Sanya.vorodis” and “Gross kaput”, it became known that the handguard is connected to the bolt with a single thrust, which is located on the left side.
This solution was applied to the hunting pump guns TOZ-94, TOZ-194 and IL-81.

The fuse of the KS-23K is mechanical, flag-type and located above the pistol grip, on the left side. The ejection sleeve window is located on the right side of the receiver. The ejector window is covered with a special plate that opens only when the shutter moves backward to eject the liner. The store latch is located behind the store receiver. On the back of the receiver has a rubber butt pad. The sight of the carbine KS-23K unregulated, open type. The high sight frame serves as a handle for carrying the carbine.

For shooting in the KS-23K the same ammunition is used as in the KS-23 and KS-23M. There is no data on compatibility and use of the “Cat”, “Nozzle-6” and “Nozzle-12” nozzles.

Initially, the production of carbines KS-23K was established at NPO Tekhnika, which is now included in the PKU NPO STiS of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia.
Whether the KS-23K is being produced now, whether they are adopted and whether they are used are questions that I haven’t found the answers to.
Most likely, the KS-23K were issued in a limited test lot and were no longer produced.
At least in the official list of weapons, which is in service with the Interior Ministry carbine KS-23K missing.

Comparison table with TTX carbines KS-23:



Civilian version of the carbine KS-23

As a result of the mass conversion in the middle of 90, the Tula Arms Plant offered hunters a modern interpretation on the subject of the “weaver”.

It was a TOZ-123 pump shotgun for amateur and commercial hunting of the 4 caliber (23,75 mm) for special shotgun cartridges 4х81. The TOZ-123 rifle was developed on the basis of the KS-23 carbine and in fact differed from its “donor”, ​​except that it had a smooth bore (without rifling) and the ammunition used. In English Wikipedia it is written that TOZ-123 tried to offer and for export. In particular, the manufacturer was interested in supplies to the American market, but the Clinton administration imposed a ban on the import of TOZ-123 in the USA.

The same gun was produced in Klimovsk (TsNIItochmash) under the brand “Selezen-4”.



TTX TOZ-123. Screen of the page that no longer exists. It was posted on the website of the Tula Arms.


The “Drake-4” is a heavy, powerful gun, so it turned out to be of little use for hunting in its modern sense. Therefore, sensible hunters did not see the point in using such a mortar. The gun was bought either by novice hunters, or simply by collectors of interesting and unusual types of weapons, which in the vague 90 were not so many. The demand for the gun “Drake-4” was so low that its production quickly turned.

It was not possible to find out the exact number of shotguns produced, but, most likely, the total number of produced “Drakes” hardly exceeded 150-200 units.
















The gun “Drake-4” barrel without rifling.




Today, “Drake-4”, due to its limited circulation and unusualness, causes a greater interest among weapon lovers and collectors of weapons than in the dashing 90. Therefore, there is a small but steady demand for second-hand “Drakes”.



I want to note that the sale or purchase of this giant “pump” is no different from the design of other hunting rifles of a smaller caliber. From August 1996 of the year “Drake” can be bought, and then registered with the Licensing Authority Department and used for hunting, sports shooting or self-defense.

Cartridges
While the “Drake” was produced and over the next few years after its removal from production, VNIItochmash produced 4 caliber cartridges with a hinge of Sokol brand powder 3,9 gr. and 47 gr. fractions. The weight of the fraction in these cartridges could be surprising: after all, any magnum - the cartridge of the 12 caliber has 48 grams of fraction. However, according to experienced hunters and owners, “Drake” can withstand shots with self-loaded cartridges, with a weight of up to 65-70 g fraction. This possibility to some extent justifies the sense of a gun as utyatnits.

Self-equipment of cartridges is the only thing that remains for the owners of “Drakes”: they are not on sale, as cartridges have not been produced for a long time. But this occupation is not simple. There are no 4 caliber sleeves for sale, no pyae containers, no devices for home assembly of cartridges. The owners of these guns can only buy gunpowder, shot and caps. Therefore, savvy owners of “Selezny” use cardboard sleeves from 4 flare calipers for cartridges to assemble cartridges. Cartridges for rocket launchers are still being produced, and the standard primer can be replaced with the one you need.

For the same purpose, with small alterations, even liners from aircraft systems are used to shoot heat traps of the ASO type. The procedure is as follows: an electric capsule is removed from the spent casings from the ASO, then a sleeve is installed in its place in which the standard capsules of the type “Zhevelo” or KV, which are sold in hunting stores, are pressed into it.

On the basis of the KS-23 carbine, one more sample of civilian weapons was developed for the 16 and 12 caliber cartridges: the Bekas smoothbore shotgun. “Snipe” and its numerous modifications are made at the “Hammer” factory.



His история It began with the fact that at the beginning of 90-s, TsNIItochmash specialists turned to the Hammer VMRP and proposed to develop a civilian pump-action pistol based on the same K-23 carbine. At the Vyatka-Polyansky plant, no one had any experience in designing smooth-bore hunting weapons, but a month later a rifle was developed for ammunition with a short sleeve 16х35. Soon they made a prototype, which, given the weak cartridge and a large mass of weapons, caused only surprise and smiles. The work continued, and a prototype was born under the once popular cartridge 16x70. In 1997, a trial batch was made that did not exceed the 20 trunks. After passing the test appeared "Snipe" in the base case.

Since then, 18 years have passed, but “Snipe” is made to this day, and all new versions and modifications appear. Currently available on the market is a self-loading version of a rifle called “Bekas-avto”, which is produced by “Molot Armz”.

Alternative Development

Carabiner special OTs-28

Carabiner KS-23K was developed in KBP, at the end of 90-s. In parallel with it, a branch of KBP (TsKIB SOO) was engaged in its own development, as a result of which a special carbine OC-28 appeared. The OTs-28 did not come into service at least for economic reasons: its production was more expensive than the KS-23K, so the latter was adopted.


Special OTs-28 carabiner with a muzzle nozzle No. 12 for firing 82-mm grenades "Bird cherry-12"


The special OTs-28 carabiner is built according to the “traditional” layout scheme, according to which the trigger is located behind the store.
The layout scheme is the main difference between the OC-28 and the COP-23K, which is built according to the bullpup scheme.

Carabiner OZ-28 is equipped with a folding shoulder rest, which in the folded position is superimposed over the receiver and fixed.
Shoulder support in the folded position can serve as a handle for carrying weapons.

About sighting devices I have no data. It is possible that the rear sight is located on the upper part of the receiver, and with the folded shoulder rest (in the folded handle) - covered diopter sight, as in the M16.

For shooting in the KS-23K, the same ammunition is used as in the KN-23 karabiners, including the “Cat”, “Nozzle-6” and “12” nozzles.

A wide range of 23-mm cartridges for carbines of the KS-23 family gave impetus to the creation of cheap single-shot products.

In the Research Institute of the Special Machinery of the Ministry of Internal Affairs they remembered the German Sturmpistole and developed an insert rifled barrel-liner for installation in the GP-25 "Koster" grenade launcher. Replaceable stem called "Larry".

Not ignored and SPS. Using the rocket launcher of the Second World War as a prototype, they developed a single-shot rifle of a turning construction, which received the OF-93 “Farmer” index.

On the base of the crop from the OF-93 was developed a pistol that received the index "Tulyak".


Farmer's weapons: ОФ-93 “Farmer”







Pistol 'Tulyak', developed on the basis of OF-93


This is all that I was able to collect and organize on the subject of 23-mm weapons of Soviet / Russian development.
I will be grateful to you for any additions and comments.

Finally, I would like to share the document “Technical Description and Operating Instructions of the KS-23”. I posted it on Google Drive for general use. The document is in PDF format and is located HERE. It can be opened and simply viewed or downloaded and saved on your computer.

Thank you for attention!

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  1. inkass_98
    inkass_98 16 October 2015 07: 41 New
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    Thanks again for the review. In the civilian sphere, there is no place for such “elephantiasis”, there is no one to hunt for, as self-defense weapons will not work either, you can easily go under the article, since getting from Drake to any part of the body will lead to its separation and automatically to the article for exceeding self-defense.
    1. Slobber
      Slobber 16 October 2015 07: 50 New
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      there is no place for such "elephantiasis, no one to hunt for

      Lengthen the trunk to 1,5-1,8-2 meters and you get pantang for ducks. From the boat, judging by the literature - that's it.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 16 October 2015 19: 31 New
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      Quote: inkass_98
      you can easily go under the article, since getting from Drake to any part of the body will lead to its separation and automatically to the article for exceeding self-defense.

      Do you think that getting hit with a bullet or buckshot of 12 cal is more comfortable for a person? smile
  2. gross kaput
    gross kaput 16 October 2015 10: 23 New
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    Given the wishes of the military - what kind of military figures !? Have you ever reposted pieces from the writings of others, at least edit them.
    Reloading is carried out using a movable forend, which is rigidly connected to the shutter. Judging by the image - the forearm most likely moves with the barrel. You understand what you wrote? if your fore-end lock and barrel are firmly connected, then the spent sleeve is removed and the new cartridge is probably sent by shamanistic spells? laughing The key phrase is - with the help of a movable fore-end, which is rigidly connected with the shutter, find the photo of KS-23K on the left side and we will give you happiness with a movable barrel in addition. laughing
    1. Mister X
      16 October 2015 10: 56 New
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      hi
      What are you restless.
      Quote: gross kaput
      Taking into account the wishes of the military - which FIG military?! Have you ever when repost pieces of scribbling others at least edit them.

      Do you think that took into account the wishes of civilians?

      Quote: gross kaput
      The key phrase is with a moving forearm,

      Read my opinion in the comments just above.

      Quote: gross kaput
      Find a picture of the COP-23K on the left side and you will be happy with a moving barrel to boot.

      You just have to gloat.
      Find a picture of KS-23K on the left side and I will be very grateful to you.
      As with any other information on the topic.
      1. gross kaput
        gross kaput 16 October 2015 14: 20 New
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        Quote: Mister X
        Do you think that took into account the wishes of civilians?

        No, I just think that it was not necessary to pull out the information on this device from the muddy opus where it is presented as a weapon of the Special Staff Directorate for wall penetration laughing So, for reference, KS-23 was never in service with the Ministry of Justice that the USSR was not a member of the Russian Federation and was not even considered as such, its inheritance was from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB of the USSR and then, after the division of the offices, he migrated to the Ministry of Justice, the FSB and the UFSIN.
        Quote: Mister X
        No matter how much I looked at his photo, I didn’t get any other ideas, except for a tubular type thrust wrapped around the barrel ...

        Is it a movable barrel or a “wrapped” thrust? those. you didn’t even bother to look at the “competitor” KS-23K, where such a principle was once realized? Well, look, see how such a solution looks in hardware and compare them.
        Quote: Mister X
        You just have to gloat.

        Yes, and where is it? Are you a teenager or what? or write for kindergarteners?
        Quote: Mister X
        Find a picture of KS-23K on the left side and I will be very grateful to you.
        stop - you kind of collected the material yourself yourself and you didn’t call me as a co-author so why are you offended by criticism and suggest me to look for something - I gave you a hint to unravel its design - look at this miracle from the other side - but how to do this is up to you.
        Quote: Mister X
        As with any other information on the topic.

        Well, I gave you a cup of info on the cartridges, my opinions about the perceived recoil (and I burned more than one hundred cartridges from the KS-23) - and that something has changed? Maybe you edited the article?
        1. Mister X
          16 October 2015 15: 55 New
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          Quote: gross kaput
          So for spravochki KS-23 never in service with the Defense Ministry that the USSR that the Russian Federation was not

          Did I write what is?
          I referred to rumors and wrote that there are no official data on this subject.

          Quote: gross kaput
          Taki moving trunk or "wrapped" thrust? those. You even didn’t bother to look at the “competitor” KS-23K, where just such a principle was implemented, didn’t you?

          Taki looked at and compared.
          He drew attention to a large difference in the thickness of the trunks, so the assumption about the wrapped thrust was swept away.

          Quote: gross kaput
          I was not invited to collaborators

          No, did not call.
          I found a person who uses the KS-23 and sent him a draft of the article.
          He approved my stuff.
          I did not find the KS-23K users, so it turned out the way it did.

          Quote: gross kaput
          Well, I gave you a cup of info on the cartridges, my opinions about the perceived recoil (and I burned more than one hundred cartridges from the KS-23) - and that something has changed? Maybe you edited the article?

          I will edit it on Saturday, because on working days there is no possibility.
  3. _KM_
    _KM_ 16 October 2015 11: 14 New
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    Perhaps the "snipe" was created on the basis of KS-23, but the locking scheme has its own - a wedge that goes into the rectangular hole of the removable barrel. But the receiver seems to have an ancestor to the “drake”.
    1. Mister X
      16 October 2015 12: 11 New
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      Quote: _KM_
      Perhaps the "snipe" and is based on the KS-23

      My regards!
      This data is from the article by Mikhail Degtyaryov "The Birth of the Snipe".
      Published in the magazine "Kalashnikov".
      http://www.kalashnikov.ru/upload/medialibrary/13f/20_23.pdf

      Quote: _KM_
      But the receiver seems to have the progenitor of "drake".

      And Drake is the civilian version of the KS-23.
      hi
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 16 October 2015 14: 22 New
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        I agree with KM. Already the first snipes on sale came with a locking tilt shutter, it was not later than 97 years. I already wrote about this in the commentary to 2 parts. Maybe a snipe based on a drake was considered, but it doesn’t seem to have left the factory. But for the first time I learned about a drake with a long trunk, thanks for that.
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  5. La-5
    La-5 16 October 2015 14: 26 New
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    Farmer weapon review: OF-93 “Farmer”
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 16 October 2015 19: 29 New
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      Quote: La-5
      Farmer weapon review: OF-93 “Farmer”

      And why are you doing this? request
      1. La-5
        La-5 17 October 2015 00: 07 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: La-5
        Farmer weapon review: OF-93 “Farmer”

        And why are you doing this? request

        To the fact that this Farmer as a gun full G.
  6. La-5
    La-5 16 October 2015 14: 28 New
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    Farmer weapon review: OF-93 “Farmer” second part.
  7. Denimax
    Denimax 16 October 2015 16: 08 New
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    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    That is - the forearm, barrel and bolt after a shot together move backwards - and what about the ejected sleeve?
    And then everything moves forward together ???

    Perhaps it works on the principle of a long stroke of the barrel, as in semi-automatic machines.
  8. gross kaput
    gross kaput 16 October 2015 23: 42 New
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    Quote: Denimax
    Perhaps it works on the principle of a long stroke of the barrel, as in semi-automatic machines.

    But here’s what a long-stroke semiautomatic device has two return springs, one for the barrel and one for the shutter, which have a long stroke, and considering that the KS-23K forearm is tightly connected with the shutter, I don’t need to explain where is the weak point in your logical chain?
    Everything is simple and banal - KS-23K, unlike its ancestor, has 1 (one) thrust which is located .... bingo! on the left side of the weapon in this photo is simply not visible, the decision is quite controversial but for domestic pumps of the 90s is not something exceptional - TOZ-94 and IZH-81 to help you laughing
    PS Mister X I think after reading komenty you realized why I am negative about such "small mistakes"? Someone will read and have a wrong opinion, someone will use your article as a basis for their own - how did you use the "left" plate, and after a while, this "minor mistake" will be perceived as truth and to hell who you prove that this is not true. There are too many erroneous stable opinions like this to produce yet - the most stable and well-known are the removal of gases into the receiver in the M-16 and the rolling of the shutter in the MP-40.
    1. Denimax
      Denimax 17 October 2015 16: 26 New
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      I agree, nonsense froze. In this case, nothing prevents him from recharging himself and injuring his hand.)
  9. gross kaput
    gross kaput 18 October 2015 10: 53 New
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    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    as a “manual” weapon, one return spring is enough for the barrel, and the bolt is returned forward manually by the forearm movement, which is rigidly connected with the bolt.

    a question for connoisseurs - and then to hell then fence a garden with a movable trunk with its spring if your bolt is tightly connected with the forearm rod? Tea is not a semiautomatic device where such a solution is necessary for normal functioning.
  10. waiting in
    waiting in 4 November 2015 07: 17 New
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    I wouldn’t refuse to have such a house, just like a fireman ...
  11. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD April 7 2019 21: 32 New
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    read all articles about KS-23 - excellent work done by the author