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Christmas tree on a stick, or How to force labor migrants to transfer money to Ukraine

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A strange thing happens in Ukraine. More and more Ukrainians are leaving to work abroad, and transfers from them are becoming less and less. It is not right. Under the dictator and the thief Yanukovych, when there was industry in the country, trade and a lot more, it was possible not to see how much it was translated. And now...


Now remittances are an item of income in the Ukrainian budget. And such a decent article. As a matter of fact, for Ukraine labor migrants, the Ukrainian Goskomstat perfectly shows. "From workers with love!" From which countries Ukrainians receive money:

Christmas tree on a stick, or How to force labor migrants to transfer money to Ukraine


If in the 2013 year, 2,7 billion dollars were transferred from Russia to Ukraine through various banks, then in 2014 there were only 2 billion. Where did the 700 million go? Yes, even at a time when Ukraine is heroically at war with Russia! But Russia has always fed the Ukrainians the most.

Of course, you can roll your eyes and thoughtfully conclude about Peremog and the aggressor country. It seems that patriotic Ukrainians do not want to build palaces and repair apartments "Katsapsins". Patriotic refuse, and all. It seems like unworthy of the "Mordovians" of such a great honor. May the representatives of this intelligent and kind people forgive me, but it is the Mordvinians, according to the Ukrainian version, who are the most common among us. And the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine is also a representative of the Mordovians.

But then who do the Ukrainians build? Americans? Germans? To british people

There is nothing easier to see and go there. Are they building in the USA? Well yes. For 2013 a year, 642 had already transferred millions of rubles with the presidents to Square. In the past, all 537. Does this mean that these snickering Americans are not worthy?

Now Europe. There, the Germans went to the main doors. 2013 year - 417, 2014 year - 328. And so on for all countries except one. UK increased transfers by as much as 17 million

Well, it will be little things. Let's think globally. In 2013, all transfers were already 8,5 billion dollars. And in 2014, the volume fell by a quarter. By the end of this year there will generally be a full seam.

What is the reason for such a fall in cash receipts for Ukrainian families, and for Ukrainian banks? According to the official version, the reason is that salaries have sharply decreased in both Russia and Europe. That’s all. The crisis in other countries. How is it in Ukrainian.

Only now, as it seems to me, not everything is so simple. A good specialist in any crisis earns well. But a crappy state, even in good times, steals from its citizens. Transfers are in dollars, and give them in UAH. Yes, undervalued. This is much more serious than reducing wages. This is the reason to look for ways to get money bypassing banks.

Another reason to pay attention: ATO. It is ATO. More precisely, these waves of mobilization that roll with ocean constancy. Nobody wants to admit that the man ran away to Russia. Not patriotic and even dangerous. Dogs can burn a hut.

The Ukrainian parliamentarians could not transfer such feelings. And the government crushes. It is necessary to squeeze out money from stingy Ukrainians. Like lemon juice for a democratic cocktail. Therefore, a new draft law has appeared.

People’s Deputies on Thursday, October 8, adopted the government draft law “On Labor Migration” (No. 2330a) as a basis.

According to the explanatory note, the bill is aimed at establishing legal norms and organizational bases for the movement, employment and social protection of citizens of Ukraine who work abroad and their family members.

Simply put, the Ukrainian Parliament simply can no longer look indifferently at how they mock Ukrainians abroad. They make you work for pennies or cents. They offer low paid jobs. Do not pay sick leave and everything else.

A labor migrant is a citizen of Ukraine who performed or is performing paid work in the receiving state in accordance with the legislation of that state. Everything. Immediately stupor! If a person works abroad and fulfills all the laws of the state where he works, then where is Ukraine?

Then just quote a part of the message. With the following comment.

"It is proposed to legislate that the rights of migrant workers to proper working conditions, remuneration, rest and social protection are governed by the laws of the host country and international treaties of Ukraine, the consent to be bound by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.

Also, according to the draft law, migrant workers pay taxes and fees in accordance with the tax legislation of Ukraine.

Also, according to the law, the employment of a labor migrant in the host country is carried out on the basis of an employment contract that regulates the labor relations between a labor migrant and a foreign employer, unless otherwise provided by law. A labor migrant is issued a labor contract by a party before leaving for the state of residence, which contributes to the employment of the migrant worker. "

So here it is, buried dogs cemetery. If now the Ukrainian is practically inaccessible for fiscal and other bodies of Ukraine, then with the adoption of this law, any labor activity will be possible only with the permission of the Ukrainian authorities and only subject to the conclusion of international contracts.

Tell me, are you, as the owner of the cottage, which needs repair, ready to conclude international agreements? For example, I do not like such a heart. What for? Well, not Ukrainian, so Moldovan or Armenian. At the worst, Tajik or Uzbek. After all, I am doing repairs, not solving political issues on my own plot.

"The employment contract is in the state language in Ukraine and in one or more languages ​​used in the host country, and contains obligations that the foreign employer undertakes, in particular, regarding: working conditions (including relatively safe and harmless working conditions) his payment (including the amount of guaranteed wages); deductions from wages, working hours and rest time, the duration of the employment contract and the conditions for its termination, the provision of social and medical assistance, the implementation of social insurance, compensation for harm caused to the health of the first in the case of an industrial accident or temporary disability, repatriation of migrant workers ", - stated in the bill.

And what conclusion can be drawn from this bill? Simple and straightforward. Ukraine is doing everything to stop the flow of labor migrants from its territory on the one hand. And at the same time, it generally brings labor migration to the shadows. There are only a few truly competent and necessary specialists in this country. The bulk of migrant workers are hard workers. And no one will bother with all the papers and all sorts of contracts for the sake of the ordinary worker. I'm not the only one so lazy.

This kind of concern for ordinary people today is typical for Ukraine. Straight tree sticks. More precisely, a Christmas tree on a stick.
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  1. Stranger03
    Stranger03 13 October 2015 06: 12 New
    +22
    And rightly, abroad will help them, laughing
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 13 October 2015 07: 33 New
      +12
      Looking forward to redistributing spheres of influence for jobs in construction organizations in Russia?
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 13 October 2015 08: 42 New
      +11
      Apparently someone in the Ukranovstvo grates that such a stream of money passes by.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 13 October 2015 09: 10 New
        +10


        They have the main zarobitchchanin, this is Petya - a beggar


        1. zzz
          zzz 13 October 2015 09: 56 New
          +16
          Meanwhile: Ukraine agreed to increase the price of coal from the DPR
          Accordingly, the DPR resumed deliveries of grade A coal to Ukraine.

          DNI raised the price of coal for Ukrainian thermal power plants from 1350 UAH. up to 1700 UAH (at today's rate of approximately $ 75) per 1 ton.
          Show all

          This information was confirmed on October 12 at the Ministry of Coal Industry of the DPR.

          “Representatives of the DPR agreed with the Ukrainian side to increase prices for Donetsk coal. If before Donetsk sold coal to Kiev at 1350 UAH. per ton, now the price has increased to 1700 UAH. per ton. This will increase the profitability of coal enterprises of the republic, reduce the level of social tension in the region, ”said a source in the DPR. vk.com/samooborona.donetsk
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 13 October 2015 14: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: zzz
            Meanwhile: Ukraine agreed to increase the price of coal from the DPR
            Accordingly, the DPR resumed deliveries of grade A coal to Ukraine.

            DNI raised the price of coal for Ukrainian thermal power plants from 1350 UAH. up to 1700 UAH (at today's rate of approximately $ 75) per 1 ton.
            Show all

            This information was confirmed on October 12 at the Ministry of Coal Industry of the DPR.

            “Representatives of the DPR agreed with the Ukrainian side to increase prices for Donetsk coal. If before Donetsk sold coal to Kiev at 1350 UAH. per ton, now the price has increased to 1700 UAH. per ton. This will increase the profitability of coal enterprises of the republic, reduce the level of social tension in the region, ”said a source in the DPR. vk.com/samooborona.donetsk


            Dear zzz, the information is very interesting. hi
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 13 October 2015 20: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: bulvas
          They have the main zarobitchchanin, this is Petya - a beggar

          While the authorities will be preoccupied with the problem - how to spend, not how to make money ........... everything will remain so!
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      3. Lukich
        Lukich 13 October 2015 09: 50 New
        +4
        Quote: vodolaz
        Apparently someone in the Ukranovstvo grates that such a stream of money passes by.

        and above all the bucket
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 13 October 2015 09: 24 New
      +8
      Well, what kind of manic craving for crazy, harmful, useless and doomed to failure to comply with laws? Everything, the edge seems to be coming ...
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 13 October 2015 09: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: marlin1203
        Well, what kind of manic craving for crazy, harmful, useless and doomed to failure to comply with laws?

        so it’s necessary to show that it’s not for nothing that asses are in prison
      2. Aksakal_07
        Aksakal_07 13 October 2015 09: 59 New
        +6
        It was not bad to “inventory” Russian legislation. I am sure, and we have a lot of empty, declarative, absolutely useless normative acts that are regional and federal.
        1. cheega69
          cheega69 13 October 2015 22: 06 New
          +1
          I would also add harmful ones. Alas, there are a lot of them.
      3. OlegLex
        OlegLex 13 October 2015 20: 30 New
        +1
        No, it's psychiatry, people have long been living in their fictional world. In a world where the Black Sea is dug up by the great Ukrainians (or Urki, it doesn’t matter), where a maniac and executioner can not be a national hero.
        You know, if the umbilical cord is cut in utero, then a dead child will be born. Those who abandoned their roots, who their historical homeland - Kievan Rus, they betrayed the dead, some of them are zombies and there are ghouls with vampires. This is how terrible tales entered our lives.
      4. cheega69
        cheega69 13 October 2015 22: 05 New
        +1
        I look at you like in a mirror ....... The parliaments are there, that we have a campaign made up of the same clowns.
  2. fvandaku
    fvandaku 13 October 2015 06: 12 New
    +17
    They put their hands under the shirt and will milk until the nipples turn blue. laughing
  3. Grbear
    Grbear 13 October 2015 06: 17 New
    +18
    Everything is fine. Another attempt to solve the problem by creating another. The concept of "causal relationship" is completely absent. Good luck to you, cheaper neighbors! yes
    1. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 13 October 2015 06: 31 New
      +11
      Grbear
      Another attempt to solve the problem by creating another.


      ..... it’s still easier than these idiots thought up ....... if they said before that they were going to WORK .... now they will say that they were going to TREAT (treats, upgrades, rest ....) tongue
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 13 October 2015 07: 07 New
        +6
        they will now say that they are going-to TREAT
        Of course, now that they’ve just “changed the rules”, it can do a ride ..
        But nothing prevents them from turning out your pockets upon returning from the “treatment” at the border ..!
        Remember how recently quite at our cordons at the entrance: Is there a currency? .. Show \ Pass ...
        In Lat. / Est. / Lit.-this is already a completed stage ..
        Everyone is now sharing.
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 24 New
          +9
          Now money is transferred by electronic payment within a minute. No one will carry large sums with him.
          1. PROHOJIY
            PROHOJIY 13 October 2015 09: 04 New
            +7
            And what will prevent the cunning yellow state from putting its paw on such transfers as well?
            1. Eugene-Eugene
              Eugene-Eugene 13 October 2015 09: 33 New
              0
              That this state controls little. The stream of transfers through trust backgrounds will increase, that's all.
            2. your1970
              your1970 13 October 2015 14: 20 New
              +1
              and who's stopping putting money on a card established, for example, in Poland / Belarus? Yes, they will take the percentage when withdrawing from an ATM, but without control, the United States is generally not within reach of the 404 country
            3. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 13 October 2015 20: 02 New
              +1
              PROHOJIY
              And what will prevent the cunning yellow state from putting its paw on such transfers as well?


              ....... and where does this sly-toothed find ????? it is not on the Maidan to yell "cool in the forehead" !!! .... always at the clever .......... laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    2. avt
      avt 13 October 2015 08: 30 New
      +7
      Quote: GrBear
      Everything is fine. Another attempt to solve the problem by creating another.

      Here are 25 they also blocked the Russian sky. Kiev’s in-country campaign decided to follow the example from the video about Borodoch, well, in which he was going to suck gasoline from the parking lot in the parking lot, and here the gopniks came up, well, the Trudovik -, stand up, otherwise it will be like this ! "I stuck my awl in my thigh. Kiev’s people didn’t calm down until everyone and everyone in Ukraine didn’t poke Russia with awl. Well, to hell with them wretched. One thing interests me - that they’ll ruin everything to the ground, do they really seriously think that as in the USSR, Russia will squirm and invest money in restoring industry even to the level of the times of Yanukovych ??? fool For 1991, and I’m not saying.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 13 October 2015 12: 33 New
        +7
        One thing interests me - that they’ll ruin everything to the ground, do they really seriously think that as in the USSR, Russia will squirm and invest money in restoring industry even to the level of the times of Yanukovych ???
        History repeats itself, genetic memory does not give ancient ukram peace. It reminds them that the territory of modern Ukraine once upon a time was a Wild Field, so they strive for their roots, then they will remember that they are nomads and will rush to the EU with the whole herd. laughing
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    3. andj61
      andj61 13 October 2015 08: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: GrBear
      Everything is fine. Another attempt to solve the problem by creating another. The concept of "causal relationship" is completely absent. Good luck to you, cheaper neighbors! yes

      They are going our way. When we were in the active phase of the war in the Caucasus, terrorist acts were committed throughout the country, and with the Luzhkov’s filing, the State Duma had been actively discussing the law on bees and beekeeping for several days, putting aside the more urgent ones.
      Well, it happens ... True, if the law on bees can be useful, then such a law on migrants is harmful - it cannot be implemented, and by its existence undermines the belief in the adequacy of the state. Looking at this law, others will be treated the same way.
      1. avt
        avt 13 October 2015 09: 14 New
        +8
        Quote: andj61
        . When we were in the active phase of the war in the Caucasus, terrorist acts were committed throughout the country, and at the request of Luzhkov, the State Duma was actively discussing the law on bees and beekeeping for several days, putting aside the more urgent ones.

        You will not believe it, but when the Patriotic War was on and there were difficulties with food, Stalin took up .... beekeeping! By decision of the Council of People's Commissars, it was exempted from taxes, and those who decided to engage in bees were given minimal, but concrete equipment in those difficult times. That's interesting - what is it from? Well, probably - ,, tyrant "was tyranny, I see no other answer wassat
        Quote: andj61
        True, if the law on bees can be useful, then such a law on migrants is harmful - it cannot be implemented, and by its existence undermines the belief in the adequacy of the state.

        May be . Can only green be useful? Do you need to ban sweets? Or maybe it’s good to eat honey, and paint fences with the right color, and not contrast one another?
        1. Andryukha
          Andryukha 13 October 2015 12: 09 New
          +10
          Do not underestimate the bees. :-)
          My grandmother fed a whole kindergarten in the village with honey after the war. There was hunger, there were no vitamins.
        2. orskpdc
          orskpdc 13 October 2015 14: 12 New
          0
          Russia has seven troubles, and the answer is one oil, bees and corn. good
        3. your1970
          your1970 13 October 2015 14: 52 New
          +6
          my great-grandfather on the bees gave two planes to the front ..
          and you are bees ......
          1. orskpdc
            orskpdc 13 October 2015 15: 32 New
            -4
            I hope your great-grandfather was not like that
            "Of great importance in raising funds for the defense fund was the leadership of party and Soviet bodies. Examples of donations like the ones given should have had an educational, patriotic effect on others. But out of a desire to look no worse than others, to find impressive examples, leaders sometimes committed unseemly acts In the history of Chuvashia, the fact is well known that the collective farmer of the Krasny Ray ray collective farm of Alatyr district A.M. Sarskov contributed 100 thousand rubles for the construction of a combat aircraft for fellow countryman Hero of the Soviet Union F.N.Orlov. in the regional committee of the CPSU (b) the details of this event became known.
            In 1942, the leadership of the Alatyr RK of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the District Council of Workers' Deputies proposed that the board of the Red Ray collective farm select a candidate from among collective farmers to deposit money in the amount of 100 thousand rubles to the country's defense fund. and acquisitions of an aircraft with these funds for transfer to the Hero of the Soviet Union F.N. Orlov. The farm did not find a collective farmer who could contribute a similar amount. In this regard, the RK VKP (b) and the district executive committee instructed to pay this amount to the collective farm, and draw up documents for one of the collective farmers, which was finally done. At first, the collective farmer K.P. Tsaplin, but he categorically refused the proposal made to him, saying that he did not want to become famous at the expense of collective farmers. Then the same was proposed to the collective farmer A.M. Sarskov, who at first also refused, and after a while agreed. Sarskov received a thousand kg of wheat from the collective farm, sold it at the bazaar, and donated it to the collective farm, where they were capitalized, and then gave it to Sarskov, who contributed it, in the amount of 100 thousand rubles, to the country's defense fund as personal savings. In fact, they contributed 330 kg of wheat to the country's defense fund.
            From the reports of the NKVD it is known that the collective farmers were unhappy with such a decision of the board and party bodies. They said that the collective farm bought the plane, and glorified Sarskov. “The collective farmers sit hungry, and Sarskov reigns in the labor of others ... What right did the party leaders have to control collective farm bread, who gave them the right to glorify Sarskov at the expense of collective farmers? We ourselves would have bought a plane and handed it over if we wanted to. ""
            1. PROHOJIY
              PROHOJIY 13 October 2015 18: 27 New
              0
              Well, the position is “if you wanted” ...
            2. your1970
              your1970 13 October 2015 18: 41 New
              0
              my great-grandfather was the first ...
  4. Ayujak
    Ayujak 13 October 2015 06: 22 New
    +4
    And after all, one of the Ukrainians will abide by this law. what
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 17 New
      +5
      You do not know Ukrainians.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 13 October 2015 20: 00 New
      0
      And after all, one of the Ukrainians will abide by this law. ,,
      in vain do you think so. whoever doesn’t like when his pocket is poking around.
    3. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 14 October 2015 05: 28 New
      0
      Ayujak
      And after all, one of the Ukrainians will abide by this law


      .... half of the business in the former Ukraine is smuggling !!! ..... it’s someone, it definitely won’t, because it didn’t, NEVER !!!!!!! hi
  5. Totalwar
    Totalwar 13 October 2015 06: 23 New
    +9
    Yes, simple hard workers do not care for these pieces of paper, with these pieces of paper they just wipe the ass! But specialists due to this next effort can completely lose!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 October 2015 07: 16 New
      +8
      Yes, they are already losing. Yuzhmash, aircraft factories, Zaporizhzhya turbo engine.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 October 2015 06: 25 New
    +8
    Another stick, which will be beaten ukrorabig, will be more. If they pass the bill.
    And apparently they will. unnecessarily expect from him income to the non-salary part, or someone else’s pocket, which is almost the same thing.
  7. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 13 October 2015 06: 26 New
    +10
    But a crappy state, even in good times, steals from its citizens.

    About Ukraine, like, said.
    Laughed.
    1. Passer
      Passer 13 October 2015 08: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: MainBeam

      About Ukraine, like, said.
      Laughed.

      This is called "optimization" here. And a lot of other words were invented.
  8. Kubatai
    Kubatai 13 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +6
    To increase profitability from foreign earnings of workers, removing the possibility of earning abroad ..
    Well, lately I’m already used to the fact that decisions are made there clearly not with my head, I won’t come up with such a head ...
    1. ltc22A
      ltc22A 13 October 2015 09: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Kubatai
      To increase profitability from foreign earnings of workers, removing the possibility of earning abroad ..
      Well, lately I’m already used to the fact that decisions are made there clearly not with my head, I won’t come up with such a head ...

      Absolutely in the ASU the coast was lost. Rob your people. It is necessary to come up with this.
      Although a conclusion (question) begs here: do they rob their own people? maybe in the Verkhovna Rada alone "zhalitanki" But it is so: there (in the Verkhovna Rada) there are no true Ukrainian patriots, not in words but in deeds.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 13 October 2015 12: 37 New
        +2
        Absolutely in the ASU the coast was lost. Rob your people.
        Under capitalism, in any state they first of all rob their people. wink
  9. D-Master
    D-Master 13 October 2015 06: 39 New
    +11
    Great article. While basically countries sign a double taxation convention on which, if you paid taxes in one country, and basically it is a host country, then you do not pay taxes in your country. Then in the most European country in the world, people want to tax completely. First, the legalization of prostitution, now taxation is essentially double. I think the process of leakage of people from Ukraine flowing in spring will turn into turbulent rivers. Reed soon Ukropshchina. laughing
    1. JACTUS RECTUS
      JACTUS RECTUS 13 October 2015 08: 39 New
      +3
      The most interesting thing is that it is practically impossible to renounce Ukrainian citizenship. Nankinsky slaves.
  10. Domino45
    Domino45 13 October 2015 06: 51 New
    +9
    Why translate if they already live abroad.
    It remains to issue citizenship and transport relatives.
  11. uestlend
    uestlend 13 October 2015 06: 58 New
    +2
    It is not clear why they were allowed to come to us, a whole bunch of diseases, health care is alarming from measles to polio, but all channels are silent, let them jump back.
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 13 October 2015 06: 59 New
    +4
    And at the same time, it generally brings labor migration into the shadows. Truly competent and necessary specialists are now in this country.


    Yeah ...

    farmer thinking in the leadership of UKRAINE, no large-scale thinking, live one day ..... stupid children, still to teach them to teach.
    Yes, here's the trouble from the older brother who helped them in difficult times, they refused and now they are alone in the cruel world ... and they will get a stick on their forehead more than once.
  13. mich0055
    mich0055 13 October 2015 07: 51 New
    +6
    Ukrainians working in Russia receive money in rubles, not dollars. The dollar exchange rate has almost doubled, and the cost of work and services continued to be calculated in rubles, while not increasing. In reality, if you count in rubles, Ukrainians transferred more money from Russia than in the previous year.
    1. JACTUS RECTUS
      JACTUS RECTUS 13 October 2015 08: 41 New
      +2
      So what ??? What is your entry ??? Considered in dollars.
    2. Kachesgm
      Kachesgm 13 October 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      At the time of the 14th year, the dollar has grown in current since October, so a decrease in transfers most likely occurred. The figures for the 15th year are more interesting.
  14. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 13 October 2015 07: 52 New
    +1
    Typically Jewish approach.
    Obviously, we’ll not see such subverts yet ...
  15. BLOND
    BLOND 13 October 2015 07: 57 New
    +1
    ... because temporary workers are in power
    And all their sovereign attempts are not aimed at creation!
  16. evil partisan
    evil partisan 13 October 2015 08: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: T
    More precisely, a Christmas tree on a stick.

    no
    With a stick (or with a pod sad ... In general: who has what request...) on the Christmas tree yes. The country of masochists ...
  17. pts-m
    pts-m 13 October 2015 08: 10 New
    +3
    inappropriate comparison by the author of Mordovians and Kakhlovs. two different people. Take a look at the face and everything will become clear. Yatsenyuh and his clique who brought him to power are entirely a nation of amphibious relatives.
  18. Kaccad
    Kaccad 13 October 2015 08: 19 New
    +2
    1. With what changes on the "contour map" of Ukraine - Crimea?
    2. But the author should take into account:
    - devaluation, albeit the end but the year 2014 struck.
    - how are transfers to Lugansk and Donetsk now taken into account?
  19. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 13 October 2015 08: 23 New
    +3
    First, transferring money has become more difficult since it has become more difficult to earn money.
    Secondly, many generally decided to move to Russia, and therefore it makes no sense to transfer something.
    The idea of ​​contracts is complete nonsense.
    The main profession of Ukrainian citizens is saleswomen in clothing and other markets and work in small semi-legal firms. And then no one wants to take.
  20. Oman 47
    Oman 47 13 October 2015 08: 32 New
    +2
    Beat your own - so that others are afraid! good

    Skakunskaya LOGIC - just some non-Euclidean geometry ... hi
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2015 08: 33 New
    +5
    Slaughter a chicken that lays golden eggs, this is so in khokhlyatsky! And then take offense at the neighbor that there are no more eggs. Neither simple nor gold ...
  22. JACTUS RECTUS
    JACTUS RECTUS 13 October 2015 08: 33 New
    +2
    Citizen of Ukraine, this phrase is identical to the word slave.
  23. Wolka
    Wolka 13 October 2015 08: 42 New
    +2
    I'm not interested, Ukrainians Svidomo themselves sought this and got what they wanted, what else to grieve
  24. srha
    srha 13 October 2015 08: 46 New
    +2
    "If now a Ukrainian is practically inaccessible to fiscal and other bodies of Ukraine, then with the adoption of this law ..." - well, that's all according to the promptings of the states. Remember that in 2010 the USA adopted the Law “On Taxation of Foreign Accounts” - the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA), you had to fill out the state forms in your native banks? And we have to in Kazakhstan.
  25. Billikid
    Billikid 13 October 2015 09: 03 New
    +1
    Is there any interesting Ukrainian citizen on the site? And what does he think about this? (If there is one)
  26. ava09
    ava09 13 October 2015 09: 16 New
    0
    (C) Well, not Ukrainian, so Moldovan or Armenian. At worst, Tajik or Uzbek. I’m doing repairs, and I’m not solving political issues at my site.

    The author did not mention the Russians. He thereby admitted that during the repair he still resolves the political issue. Just not in favor of Russia.
  27. komendant 64
    komendant 64 13 October 2015 09: 24 New
    +3
    Parliament gives birth to useless laws. It is trying to regulate what will obviously be ignored by the Svidomo population, and, especially, by the employer.
    The situation in its absurdity reminded me of how, in Soviet times (I don’t know how now), an air division twice a year issued an order for a mass flight of birds. Its essence is clear - providing a set of safety measures. But it seemed that without an extract from the order, the birds would not be on the wing.
  28. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 13 October 2015 09: 33 New
    +6
    Russia is a country of geniuses and paradoxes!
    About geniuses - in just a week, our Minister of Defense was able to significantly strengthen the national currency.
    On paradoxes, neither the prime minister, nor the finance minister, nor the central bank chairman were able to do this in a year.
  29. Sargaras
    Sargaras 13 October 2015 09: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: vodolaz
    Apparently someone in the Ukranovstvo grates that such a stream of money passes by.

    Envy is an international concept.
  30. crambol
    crambol 13 October 2015 10: 20 New
    +2



    Fresh case. Not later than yesterday I hired two representatives of one solar republic to cut branches on four poplars in the yard. The problem was solved in an hour and a half, including the solemn presentation of one thousand. Registration of the contract was not required.





  31. gridasov
    gridasov 13 October 2015 10: 49 New
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    Yeah sure! With what pleasure I would leave this country. If only someone accepted
  32. Leeder
    Leeder 13 October 2015 11: 01 New
    +1
    More and more are slipping into the feudal system. Soon, they will get rid of Ukrainian passports like a plague ...
  33. bubla5
    bubla5 13 October 2015 11: 06 New
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    Ukrainians Tatars from Dnepropetrovsk came to visit the pop-divide and shit us, ate our bread, took advantage of hospitality and left, damn it, they didn’t give a damn .. С_КИ
  34. 9o6peu
    9o6peu 13 October 2015 12: 01 New
    +2
    But what kind of paper will draw up these? Any Ukrainian going to Russia will say that he is going to stay with his grandmother. And what he will do in Russia - no one will track. The law is about nothing. He will not add a penny to the treasury, but will add only hatred to the “smart” Ukrainian government. Salo Ukraine!
  35. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 13 October 2015 12: 08 New
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    This is not a problem, here Siluanov said that we will capitalize our subsidiary Ukrainian banks by 2 billion, so there is no problem with a shortage of transfers.
  36. Naval
    Naval 13 October 2015 12: 11 New
    +2
    Acquaintances living in the Ruins, and working with foreign shipowners, in most cases, have already opened accounts in neighboring states, Poland, Turkey, the Baltic States, etc. Thus protecting their earnings from raking handles of the Kiev junta.
  37. Geser
    Geser 13 October 2015 12: 45 New
    +1
    It is time to already block the financial flows coming from Russia to Ukraine. Since Ukraine screams to the whole world about Russian aggression, then all transfers from Russia to Ukraine should be blocked. You should also stop giving work to all migrant workers, no matter where they come from, it is time to employ our citizens.
  38. xomaNN
    xomaNN 13 October 2015 14: 15 New
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    It seems that the bunny Senya was picking up in the "zarobitchane" to the west. Here are the laws "for themselves" pushes what
  39. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 13 October 2015 14: 22 New
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    Quote: avt
    One thing interests me - that they’ll ruin everything to the ground, do they really seriously think that as in the USSR, Russia will squirm and invest money in restoring industry even to the level of the times of Yanukovych ???

    Actually, this is what the US plan consists in: using the locust method to ruin the country under the slogan “For democracy, a brighter future!”, And quit, let Russia restore! Western “partners” didn’t dare to offer anything!
  40. _KM_
    _KM_ 13 October 2015 16: 09 New
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    Good law. Useful. And then they began to recruit contiguous citizens in the Russian Federation - to shops, construction sites, and even banks. wink
  41. zarya
    zarya 13 October 2015 16: 13 New
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    My Ukrainian-speaking colleagues in the USA are generally surprised how ordinary people manage to survive in Urka Ina. And then there it is ...

    By the way, do you know that in a civilized USA (without ridicule if Che), citizens' incomes are taxed around the world? Most likely they will motivate with an eye to it. But of course, they don’t understand what the United States (or Russia or China or the EU) is and what Urkain is in its scale and economic power.
  42. _KM_
    _KM_ 13 October 2015 16: 43 New
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    Quote: zarya
    citizens' incomes are taxed worldwide


    I did not know this. Curious moment.
  43. Prutkov
    Prutkov 13 October 2015 16: 52 New
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    Everything is logical. Most of the residents of Zarabotsk have long been hurt money abroad, it is not so important where, Russia, the EU. It is important that they do not pay taxes to the budget. And then they will want to have a pension "like in Europe." With this, in general, the Maidan began. There are still a lot of clever people who infect money abroad, and are planning to come to Ukraine to retire. They are the main "pushers" of the Maidan, because want to bring Ukraine closer to the EU. But not too much. To the pension (They) was, as in Europe, and the prices in Ukraine were current. And most importantly - there’s nothing to pay for this holiday of life!
    1. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 14 October 2015 05: 40 New
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      Prutkov
      Everything is logical


      ..... LOGIC is when they create jobs in their own country .... and this is, to put it mildly, complete nonsense! ... there is generally no logic ... some Wishlist !!! how do these morons imagine .... ???? ..for example: I need a worker, I drive up to the “flea market” - out of ten people who want to earn 8 they run to me .... and two stand with “pieces of paper” which I must sign to them ..... What do you think, who will earn today MONEY, and who is not ????? laughing
  44. _KM_
    _KM_ 13 October 2015 17: 57 New
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    Is logical. But, on the other hand, it turns out that citizens live according to 2 different laws and pay a double tax. In this case, the sovereignty of the receiving party is violated, as the laws of another country apply on its territory.

    And the United States and Ukraine are not alone in this. There is a similar order in Sweden, if I am not mistaken.
  45. gomer
    gomer 13 October 2015 18: 22 New
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    The question is an edge. How to get the ICF to send money to Dill. Money is sorely lacking.
  46. Stas57
    Stas57 13 October 2015 18: 53 New
    +2
    Do I see the minor in the first picture alone?
  47. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 14 October 2015 00: 25 New
    +1
    No, in order to break off all relations with the aggressor country, so let the aggressor country deal with the drafting of agreements with the residents of a deadly girl !?
    Madhouse on the road.
  48. Foresterer
    Foresterer 14 October 2015 00: 57 New
    +1
    Those who came to Russia to earn money are now transporting families here. Here the flow of money is weakening. And able-bodied men and child-bearing women go to us. So I want to ask Svidomo-so who are all the same fools, we, Russians or they are great "Ukrainians"?
  49. wadulya
    wadulya 14 October 2015 04: 16 New
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    About Ukrainians

    They popped it from under Donetsk, ”the old devil said thoughtfully, watching the crowd.
    - Now work to add! Who has six rush? Do not darken ... - The devil who handed over the cards hesitated, staring at the burnt tanker that appeared in front of them - Another one!
    “Out of the hundreds of heavens,” the little devil giggled, “We can congratulate you, you are dead!”
    - How did you die? - the tankman became agitated.
    “Well, you probably got hit by a grenade launcher,” the little devil suggested.
    “I can't be dead!” - The tankman got worried. - I have a girlfriend at home.
    - Do not worry! - The old devil discarded cards, - your girlfriend will not be lost! A couple of years in Europe, the floors will be washed, then he will marry a black man.
    - How come?
    - How everyone goes out. You yourself did it yourself!
    - I did not!
    - Went to fight? I go! Have you been killed? They killed! She married her husband to a black man.
    - I fought for Ukraine !!!
    The devils began to laugh:
    “You fought for your girlfriend to marry a black man,” the old devil said sympathetically. For this, you killed those who did not want you to die and your girlfriend married a black man ...
  50. dima mzk
    dima mzk 14 October 2015 05: 15 New
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    I still don’t understand in the tents! what have you achieved? What the hell did you ride for?
    1. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 14 October 2015 05: 45 New
      +1
      dima mzk
      What the hell did you ride for?


      .... ask any psychologist! jumping with a scream in the crowd reduces the thought process ...... As long as a crest skate ..... Jewish ... do not cry wink