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Media: British fighter aircraft are allowed to attack Russian aircraft in case of danger to life

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NATO pilots, including British pilots flying Tornado fighters, have the right to attack Russian combat aircraft in Iraqi airspace, if there is a “threat to their lives”, reports TASS The message, which appeared in the London newspaper Daily Star Sunday, referring to its sources.




“At the same time, pilots of the British Air Force were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at any cost,” the newspaper notes.

“The Tornado airplanes of the Royal Air Force will be equipped with air-to-air missiles and were given the blessing to attack unfriendly Russian aircraft,” the publication says.

“This step was taken after British ministers warned that the situation in the Middle East had become“ much more dangerous ”because of Russia's actions,” the article says.

“When airplanes fly at supersonic speed, it becomes very fast in the airspace, for this reason a collision may occur, or the Russian pilot may be mistakenly shot down”, - Said one of the interlocutors of the newspaper.
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  1. fox21h
    fox21h 11 October 2015 12: 46
    87
    Well, flying scrap metal did you think of yourself there?
    Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.
    Actually, it’s more like an exhaust of media or politicians, if seriously trying to bring down our plane for the attacker will turn out to be very big problems, even my mother will not have time to say a word ...
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 11 October 2015 12: 49
      23
      If they try, ours will tear their farts to the British flag! angry
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 11 October 2015 12: 55
        77
        Has Fashington decided to scare us with the help of his pet dog, England? Well, well, from the moment our operation began, my head is completely jammed, the return flow will fly.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 11 October 2015 13: 03
          +5
          Quote: vovanpain
          Has Fashington decided to scare us with the help of his pet dog, England? Well, well, from the moment our operation began, my head is completely jammed, the return flow will fly.

          That's right! We have enough "calibers" for all their airfields wink
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 11 October 2015 13: 29
            18 th
            I really hope that ours will be shot down at least one or two NATO aircraft am !
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 11 October 2015 13: 37
              50
              Quote: supertiger21
              I really hope that ours will be shot down at least one or two NATO aircraft

              And I hope that NATO planes will not dare to "push their tail" on our dryers! soldier
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 11 October 2015 15: 04
                21
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                And I hope that NATO planes won't dare "push their tail" on our dryers "!

                In Vietnam and Korea, they dared. Look, McCain knows ... He knows that bombing Hanoi is one thing, but hanging out with MiGs is a completely different leaf.
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 11 October 2015 16: 17
                  +8
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  And I hope that NATO planes won't dare "push their tail" on our dryers "!

                  In Vietnam and Korea, they dared. Look, McCain knows ... He knows that bombing Hanoi is one thing, but hanging out with MiGs is a completely different leaf.

                  Well, actually this durimar McCain in Vietnamese was bombarded with a missile. And in Syria, our fighters use much more serious MIGs, the Su-30SM.
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                  2. nadezhiva
                    nadezhiva 11 October 2015 17: 50
                    +4
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    And in Syria, our fighters use much more serious MIGs, the Su-30SM.

                    Threats go through the airspace of Iraq. Like, the Anglo-Saxons Russians in the sky over Iraq are not waiting.
                    The representative of the Iraqi Foreign Ministry said that an official was sent to the Kremlin. appeal. The Kremlin’s response has not been voiced so far, nor has the appeal received.
                    The British decided to take a chance.
                    1. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 11 October 2015 19: 01
                      +6
                      Quote: nadezhiva
                      The Kremlin’s response has not been voiced so far, nor has the appeal received.
                      The British decided to take a chance.

                      The box reported that the Russian Foreign Ministry had formally requested clarifications from London regarding statements by some British media.
                      London time is silent ... Holds a pause.
                      But the trial balloon has already been launched, "NATA will see" how the Russian Federation will react.
                      On the other hand, this is a signal to scumbags: run to Iraq, here Russian planes will not get you, here we will cover you.
                      But in fact, without the Lizards, the Britons in the sky against the SU-30SM do not shine.
                      1. krot
                        krot 11 October 2015 19: 19
                        +1
                        A suicide club has opened, called England!
                      2. Throw
                        Throw 11 October 2015 20: 17
                        +4
                        British fighters are allowed to attack Russian aircraft in case of danger to life

                        In general, a danger to life arises as soon as the pilot climbed into the cockpit.
                        And if during the meeting there was a danger to life, then ours is already attacking .. wink
                    2. Botanologist
                      Botanologist 11 October 2015 20: 19
                      0
                      To allow attacking Russian aircraft "in case of danger" is a contradiction in itself. It seems that they attacked - and the dangers became less. Life has become more fun. wassat
                  3. veksha50
                    veksha50 11 October 2015 21: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: nadezhiva
                    The representative of the Iraqi Foreign Ministry said that an official was sent to the Kremlin. appeal. The Kremlin’s response has not been voiced so far, nor has the appeal received



                    There is a problem ... Flying from Syria - more fuel - less ammunition ...

                    And the Iraqis offered to ours based on their base ... However, the Americans are also based there ... Most likely, this bothered our ... So they think ...
                2. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 11 October 2015 18: 39
                  +6
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Well, actually this durimar McCain in Vietnamese was bombarded with a missile. And in Syria, our fighters use much more serious MIGs, the Su-30SM.

                  What is the difference that McCain shot down the S-75? What is the difference, which planes were in Vietnam, and which ones in Syria? The main thing here is that NATO as a whole and America in particular have experience of a direct clash with Russia. And I would hope that they remember him and cool slightly. Although, in my opinion, these are empty hopes. They do not remember the story beyond yesterday's burger ....

                  By the way. I don’t know if it’s a secret in America or not, but in Afghanistan, our boys came across several times "spirits" with surprisingly good knowledge of English, but who did not understand any other languages ​​at all. Funny, isn't it? I hope they, "exchanged for soap" (see the film "Alexander Nevsky"), are still alive and well and can also tell something about how the Russians are fighting ...
          2. djqnbdjqnb
            djqnbdjqnb 11 October 2015 13: 37
            37
            On the eve of, in my opinion, the Gangut battle, I may be wrong, the British said that if the Russian ships attack the Swedish, the British will support the Swedes. The Russians advised the British to keep "a decent distance ..." They did so.
            And then, and now it was an attempt at the most primitive intimidation. I would have come up with something more elegant. Primitive and stupid.
          3. kalibr
            kalibr 11 October 2015 13: 38
            10
            Are you in such a hurry to burn in a flame of a nuclear explosion?
            1. Shturmovik
              Shturmovik 11 October 2015 14: 25
              12
              I agree! The beginning of a confrontation at the level of air battles can lead to a real war, who needs it?
              1. shvn
                shvn 11 October 2015 14: 57
                +5
                But do you also need to answer intimidation from the "giant"?
              2. korol yasheriz
                korol yasheriz 11 October 2015 16: 53
                +4
                I doubt very much about the war, but I’ll definitely lead to an exchange, because I think there will be no fools to attack our planes
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 11 October 2015 17: 48
              +3
              The flight time of Trident 2 ICBMs from the UK will be only 6-7 minutes.
              1. snifer
                snifer 11 October 2015 18: 23
                +5
                as they say "and cho" ?? After our answer, the UK will de facto cease to exist.
                1. Maksus
                  Maksus 11 October 2015 18: 59
                  +4
                  After that, we will all look like your avatar (
                  1. snifer
                    snifer 11 October 2015 19: 28
                    +3
                    it’s not a matter of who will become like anyone else, but of the fact that these Papuans on their island, it’s impossible (even in their erotic fantasies) to start a nuclear war with Russia. And so it’s deep for us ... how much is the flying time .This will be a shot at his temple
                    1. clidon
                      clidon 11 October 2015 21: 17
                      0
                      So nobody seems to want to shoot at the temple. I think that’s why the conflict will fade away.
                    2. ydjin
                      ydjin 12 October 2015 03: 10
                      0
                      Quote: snifer
                      it’s not a matter of who will become like anyone else, but of the fact that these Papuans on their island, it’s impossible (even in their erotic fantasies) to start a nuclear war with Russia. And so it’s deep for us ... how much is the flying time .This will be a shot at his temple

                      Please do not insult the Papuans, they are much more noble people than the Britons! Miklouho-Maclay witness it! laughing
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 11 October 2015 21: 05
                  +1
                  Hypothetically, their nuclear missiles can deliver 896 warheads to our territory - then we will have what.
                  1. snifer
                    snifer 11 October 2015 21: 41
                    +1
                    The UK government has revealed information about the country's nuclear arsenal. According to AFP, citing a statement by the authorities, the number of warheads on constant alert is 160 units, and the total number of nuclear warheads will be no more than 225 units.

                    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/weapons_in_the_world/yadernyy-arsenal-velikobritani
                    i-izvesten27-05-2010-00-06-00/

                    Yes, and not a little 225, but in any case, after this war (God forbid) Russia will be, and Great Britain will not. We will not start the first but roll back the mother, do not grieve. Therefore, let them consider the flight time of our missiles, and not us hi
                  2. veksha50
                    veksha50 11 October 2015 21: 50
                    +2
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    Hypothetically, their nuclear missiles can deliver 896 warheads to our territory - then we will have what.



                    Hmm ... let me first ask - what is a "nuclear rocket" in your understanding ???

                    If you manage to explain, then the second question will be: where did the firewood come from, that is, 896 warheads ??? All these figures that the media operate on are ordinary profanity and ignorance of the true situation ...

                    For you to know, some of the warheads are in special storage facilities and are not installed in the normal state of alert on missiles ... And as soon as they begin to install, all this is detected, and countermeasures are taken ... maybe, right up to a preventive strike ... In general, how the chip will fall ...

                    PS But the way Shoigu and Putin "celebrated" the birthday of VVP may speak of his determination and readiness for an acute response to all these already annoying threats ...
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 12 October 2015 13: 25
                      0
                      Nuclear missiles - Trident 2 ICBMs can carry 14 warheads with a capacity of 100 kilotons each, UK submarines 4 each with 16 ICBMs each Trident 2 now carries 4 warheads, but nothing will hinder in the event of a worsening situation in the USA for this rocket. And there will be no preemptive strike on our part - we will not be the first to attack.
                3. igorka357
                  igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 03
                  0
                  And de facto and de jure, and in general for all the facts)))!
              2. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 11 October 2015 19: 33
                +8
                Quote: Vadim237
                Flight time of the Trident-2 ICBM from the UK
                Actually, Trident-2 is a naval ICBM, so there is nothing for it to do on the territory, but from the waters of the Greenland or Norwegian seas - yes, 10-15 minutes, depending on the RBD and the target being attacked.
                And this is the last argument of the kings!
                But the question is: where do they, sinners, go from their fragile islet when answering?
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 11 October 2015 19: 44
                  +2
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  Actually Trident-2 - naval ICBM

                  And when did the Tridents modernize? The rocket is, to put it mildly, not new.
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  And this is the last argument of the kings!

                  Moreover, taking into account the growing our missile defense group, the argument is more and more doubtful every day. And they will begin to put S-500 on duty, so in general the argument will become completely debatable.
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  But the question is: where do they, sinners, go from their fragile islet when answering?

                  by the year 20, the answer may not be at all bright for amers, since the Sarmatians, God forbid, will begin to replace the Voivode, and the Barguzins will become operational.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 11 October 2015 20: 57
                    0
                    The missile is not new, but it surpasses our new Mace in accuracy and thrust-weight ratio.
                  2. clidon
                    clidon 11 October 2015 21: 18
                    +1
                    Moreover, taking into account the growing of our missile defense group,

                    Have we got a "growing missile defense grouping"? When!? Apart from the Moscow region, there is nothing yet.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 11 October 2015 21: 44
                      +2
                      Quote: clidon
                      Have we got a "growing missile defense grouping"? When!? Apart from the Moscow region, there is nothing yet.

                      Crimea, the Arctic, Kaliningrad, the introduction of new S-400, early warning systems, etc. we do not notice?
                    2. clidon
                      clidon 11 October 2015 22: 27
                      +3
                      Since when has the S-400 suddenly become a complex capable of intercepting the Trident-2 warhead (just like any other ICBM)? And with the help of a radar, you can't knock much.
                    3. snifer
                      snifer 11 October 2015 22: 53
                      0
                      since then with what caliber flew HZ knows where yes laughing
                    4. clidon
                      clidon 12 October 2015 05: 22
                      +1
                      Well, now we are knee-deep in the sea.
                    5. igorka357
                      igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 12
                      +1
                      What does "caliber" and s-400 have to do with it?
                2. igorka357
                  igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 10
                  0
                  Сlidon correctly tells you, SPRN is first of all sharpened on a reciprocal counter strike!
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 12 October 2015 13: 30
              0
              The S-500 air defense system will cover Moscow - all 10 divisions as an addition to the A 235 missile defense system.
          4. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 October 2015 21: 22
            -5
            10-15 minutes is just the flight time of missiles to the Urals, and just 5 to 7 minutes to Moscow, St. Petersburg and all military facilities in the western part of Russia, during which time we won’t even have time to put troops on alert, not to mention preparation for launching missiles.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 11 October 2015 21: 45
              +3
              Quote: Vadim237
              10-15 minutes is just the flight time of missiles to the Urals, and just 5 to 7 minutes to Moscow, St. Petersburg and all military facilities in the western part of Russia, during which time we won’t even have time to put troops on alert, not to mention preparation for launching missiles.

              Have you heard anything about the Perimeter system? The Americans called it the "Dead Hand" ...
              1. Aleksandr1959
                Aleksandr1959 11 October 2015 22: 12
                +1
                Have you heard anything about the Perimeter system? The Americans called it the "Dead Hand" ...

                It is very good that you reminded about this system. In recent times, only mention of it was a deterrent for blatant Saxons.
            2. igorka357
              igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 21
              +1
              I don't understand how you got to such a rank? I explain the situation ... the early warning system detects missile launches, calculates where they are flying and from where, and reports ... then an instant report to the Supreme Commander, approval for the launch ... then the complexes are on alert in all three environments receive an order to deliver a retaliatory nuclear missile strike on the territory from which the launch was carried out in our direction! And our country is large, and the Strategic Missile Forces are omnipresent in its vastness, so the answer will be oh-oh .. And we also have " dead hand "ask what it is! Well, the ground forces in a nuclear armageddon of a planetary scale with "the side of the burn" hi !
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 12 October 2015 13: 34
                0
                But do not tell me how long it takes for all these actions?
          5. igorka357
            igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 06
            0
            The territorial waters of the UK is also their territory, do not confuse the comments!
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 October 2015 13: 55
      17
      Quote: supertiger21
      I really hope that ours will be shot down at least one or two NATO aircraft am !

      No, well, this is superfluous. They do not touch us, and we will not. The aggravation of the situation no one needs. It is only necessary to streamline the interaction of our videoconferencing and coalition so that no excesses occur. In theory, they should help us. So you need to force them to do this, otherwise they’ll beat someone for more than a year request
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 11 October 2015 14: 04
        +7
        Quote: GSH-18
        So you need to force them to do this, otherwise they’ll beat someone for more than a year

        No, let it be better for them to have "their own wedding, and we have our own." It's more expensive to contact them. They will bomb a peaceful population somewhere (out of habit), and they will blame us, go and prove later that you are not to blame.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 11 October 2015 14: 15
          +3
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: GSH-18
          So you need to force them to do this, otherwise they’ll beat someone for more than a year

          No, let it be better for them to have "their own wedding, and we have our own." It's more expensive to contact them. They will bomb a peaceful population somewhere (out of habit), and they will blame us, go and prove later that you are not to blame.

          Very easy in that case. But now it’s more difficult to do. After all, with proper coordination, flight control will be coordinated and it will be known where whose planes were and when what was bombed.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 October 2015 14: 01
      +3
      Quote: supertiger21
      I really hope that ours will be shot down at least one or two NATO aircraft am !

      Why bring down that? wink Krasukha-4 to whiten the monitors and put them on OUR airdrome. And after the pilot to the Englishman explain everything in the scoreboard with his corpus callosum. yes And then let them ask you to return the plane back, and we take a look and think about whether to return our corn fields to irrigate Amer’s high-tech child prodigy. drinks
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 11 October 2015 21: 48
        +1
        Well, how many times can I repeat that Krasukhoy can’t whit anything further than 100 km.
        And she doesn’t land planes.
        Basically.
        And even if someone stupidly releases Krasukha into Syria and she joins in there, she will either immediately catch Harm, or all the Anglo-Saxon special forces will go to her capture.
        And the English special is not inferior to ours. Yeah.

        D, B!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 11 October 2015 21: 55
          +3
          Quote: mav1971
          Well, how many times can I repeat that Krasukhoy can’t whit anything further than 100 km.

          Did the designer report on the performance characteristics of Krasukha-4? By the way, during the exercises Krasukha-4 blinded the SU-30 ... there was news not so long ago, even at VO.
          Quote: mav1971
          And even if someone stupidly releases Krasukha into Syria

          Again, the news of recent days was about the transfer of Krasukha-4 complexes to Syria, and they are ALREADY there!
          Quote: mav1971
          or all the Anglo-Saxon special forces will go to its capture.

          Oh how scary laughing We modestly keep silent about our specialists and the Marine Corps ... there are Ramba at the Britons, and here we are, the guys went for a walk ...
          1. asar
            asar 11 October 2015 23: 32
            0
            Good all!
            On the other hand, this is a signal to scumbags: run to Iraq, here Russian planes will not get you, here we will cover you.

            Well, okay, not DRYING from the sky, we'll fill it up like that, on the "earth", in a simple way!
            and so we guys went for a walk ...

            "Tour" to historical places
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 38
            0
            Our specialists are fine, but the Marine Regiment is against highly specialized intelligence saboteurs foolAre you going to bury our guys? Our marines will not even be able to offer them anything! Marines are not special forces, they are just a branch of the army specializing in seizing bridgeheads on the enemy’s coast, and the marines simply have better preparation! Marines and airborne forces are the first wave strike, it should to be powerful and shocking, before the approach of the main forces, against reconnaissance and sabotage detachments, these units are ineffective! There are reconnaissance units for both marines and airborne forces, those are more or less prepared for such situations, but ordinary marines ... haven’t! We heard something about the PDSS, about the special forces of the airborne forces, and even the GRU special forces have their own special forces ... like that, like specialists in the special forces ... something like that!
            1. your1970
              your1970 12 October 2015 13: 08
              0
              How the praise of the words "spetsura", "saboteurs" was distorted!
              There are centuries-old ways of protecting troops from enemy penetrations. Everything has long been described in the charters of all countries of the world. All this, subject to strict compliance, is quite effective in the conduct of hostilities.
              And even in cases of successful saboteurs, some very serious consequences do not occur for the troops. See examples of WWII (the actions of "Brandenburg" for example), and any military conflict of the 20th century.

              Intelligence is a completely different matter ...
        2. igorka357
          igorka357 12 October 2015 06: 27
          0
          Well, about the "special services" I agree, not frail guys ... they don't even try to talk about them ..))), but all sorts of amerovskie "deltaforce" and "greenberets" are not sure .. the guys from there really haven't fought for a long time!
        3. dali
          dali 12 October 2015 10: 06
          0
          Quote: mav1971
          And the English special is not inferior to ours. Yeah.
          Well, I see you yourself agree with this ... laughing

          And at the expense of the English specials a lot of things are written ... read, read ... laughing
          Those. I don’t want to say that these are weak guys, besides, not all are stupid, therefore they are not suicides, and they are not ready to die for the green !!!
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    4. edge
      edge 11 October 2015 15: 09
      +3
      Quote: supertiger21
      I really hope that ours will be shot down by at least one or two NATO aircraft!

      and after that there will be boots, foot-cloths, a machine gun and an ozk ..... you are ready to try them on and remember everything
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 11 October 2015 18: 34
        +1
        Quote: hert
        and after that there will be boots, foot-cloths, a machine gun and an ozk ..... you are ready to try them on and remember everything

        We must always (or must, if you want) be ready to do everything that you said. But I agree with you, which is not the case.
  2. veksha50
    veksha50 11 October 2015 14: 33
    +7
    Quote: GSH-18
    That's right! We have enough "calibers" for all their airfields



    Hmm ... Why are our Calibers ... After all, the day before yesterday Iran loudly announced that all American and "coalition" bases are under the gun of Iranian missiles ... And now we have an alliance, a coalition and a Coordination Council ...

    It’s interesting how the Britons will realize their ideas ...

    PS They think that our pilots will not receive a similar order ... they completely lost their minds ...
    1. asar
      asar 11 October 2015 23: 36
      0
      Maybe that's why the AUG civilian left the PZ ?!
  3. bastard
    bastard 11 October 2015 15: 01
    +3
    Quote: GSH-18
    That's right! We have enough "calibers" for all their airfields

    As one negative movie hero said through the mouth of Dzhigarkhanyan: "Don't be afraid, we won't hurt you, chick - and you're already in heaven."
  4. ZKB
    ZKB 11 October 2015 20: 38
    0
    here gauges are not needed. put s-400 and not one without our permission will not take off. and it will not be crowded in the airspace ... then even gulls with our permission will fly
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  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 11 October 2015 13: 19
    19
    vovanpain
    Has Farmington decided to scare us with his pet dog, England? Well, well, since the beginning of our operation, the head has completely jammed ...

    ... yes, it was they who decided to scare our videoconferencing with fright ... the point is not "iron", and the supply of diapers is running out ... the defensive reaction of the weak - SCARE the STRONG!
    Our answer must be concrete: WE ARE HERE, IN SYRIA, AT THE INVITATION OF THE LEGAL STATE AUTHORITY! THE SAME WANTED IN THE GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ!
    What are you doing here? Did the UN Security Council give you the go-ahead or OFFICIALLY invited the Government? So which of us, gentlemen is PANIKOVSKY, violators of the Convention? Henceforth, any violation of the Syrian airspace, by means of airborne missiles or missiles, we WILL CONSIDER A VIOLATION WITH ALL THE OCCURRING CONCLUSIONS AND REACTION TO PREVENT SIMILAR VIOLATIONS!
    I am sure that the annual supply of diapers will be sold out in a week! WEAKNESS ALWAYS RESPECT FORCE!
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 11 October 2015 13: 40
      18
      Oni berut na pont i pytajutsja IG v Irake spasti ot russkoj sviacii ....
    2. shvn
      shvn 11 October 2015 15: 20
      +3
      Sir, the question is raised about the sky over Iraq ... There we still do not have an official invitation
    3. mav1971
      mav1971 11 October 2015 21: 51
      0
      "What is the strength in, brother?" (from)

      D, B!
  • Temples
    Temples 11 October 2015 13: 26
    +6
    I think scare dawned on the London newspaper Daly Star Sunday

    Military departments communicate.
    And just about the interaction of pilots in the sky say.

    So that it’s just water pouring from the pages of the newspaper.
    1. Michael_59
      Michael_59 11 October 2015 13: 44
      +1
      Quote: Temples
      it's just water


      Nah, it's not just water)))
      1. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 11 October 2015 15: 14
        +2
        Do not be afraid of the one who shouts a lot, sing to the one who is silent but does his work.
        1. 97110
          97110 11 October 2015 21: 02
          0
          Quote: go21zd45few
          sing to the one who is silent

          Do you mean the Baltic states?
  • Pashakashin
    Pashakashin 11 October 2015 13: 59
    +3
    Yes, they do not scare us, but their citizens. Specially bred this tantrum.
  • Monos
    Monos 11 October 2015 14: 07
    18
    Their memory is a bit short. Recall.
    Siskin "Phantom".
    1. Bird the Talker
      Bird the Talker 11 October 2015 15: 38
      +5
      American pilots are FORBIDDEN to approach Russian planes closer than 32 km ...
      1. asar
        asar 11 October 2015 23: 43
        0
        Guys! Good to all!
        I think this is not from the fright of American pilots in front of ours!
        At current speeds in the sky (how long does a modern fighter, attack aircraft, bomber fly these 32 km?), Plus a super-nervous situation, a small spark, from which ... (everyone knows further) God forbid!
        Let them be forbidden, because it’s calmer!

        And about "shooting down Russian planes ..."
        I really want to believe that fake, and not bad!
        And I do not want to believe that all this is just a test ball, with indications for the future!
        In the end, they also want to live, don't they, shaving ?!
  • SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 11 October 2015 14: 24
    +9
    I would like to see when the Americans, after the sudden destruction of British aircraft in Iraq, will bleat quietly falling into a stupor, and sculpt all kinds of excuses that "everything is not so simple" (c), that it was accidental and NATO pilots simply killed themselves.
    The British are not so suckers, however (and especially cunning, because they have not yet received full-fledged lyuli from us, although they are our original enemies).
    It’s one thing the NATO organization, the crowd doesn’t score particularly strong countries, but here they propose to the British alone, under their own responsibility, to run into the Russians?
    British pilots probably laughed at the "American joke" for a long time.
    It reminded me of the time when the peacekeeping Rusbat of the Airborne Forces seized the Slatina airfield in Kosovo. offered to knock out (120 Russian paratroopers !!!) from the airport by means of a motorized British brigade.
    After all, everyone remembers the recent recognition of NATO officials in Europe about powerlessness against the Russian Armed Forces.
    After the "omission" of the states and the demonstration of the strength of the Aerospace Forces and the Navy, the Anglo-Saxons need to bleat something, clumsily trying to keep their face - their mine.
    This is not for you!
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 11 October 2015 14: 29
    +5
    Quote: vovanpain
    Has Fashington decided to scare us with the help of his pet dog, England? Well, well, from the moment our operation began, my head is completely jammed, the return flow will fly.

    they threw you a fake and you hung up your ears
    and administrators still need to carefully select the material, and it’s not a site but a garbage can
    a yellow newspaper with a history of only 13 years
    The newspaper’s theme is mainly stories about celebrities, sports, as well as news and gossip about popular television programs such as TV shows and reality shows
    gentlemen, the next stage is the discussion of articles from speedinfo ?!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 11 October 2015 16: 46
      +4
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      they threw you a fake and you hung up your ears


      Fake is not a fake, but it’s necessary to troll .. that’s where the Defense Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs began to troll ..

      The Russian Embassy has asked the British Foreign Office for clarification on media reports that the British Air Force, which is participating in the coalition operation against Islamic State terrorists, has been given permission to strike Russian planes, Ambassador Alexander Yakovenko said Sunday.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 11 October 2015 17: 02
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        Fake is not a fake, but it’s necessary to troll .. that’s where the Defense Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs began to troll ..

        trolling and seriously discussing these are two different things
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  • APASUS
    APASUS 11 October 2015 15: 26
    +1
    Quote: vovanpain
    Has Farmington decided to scare us with his pet dog, England?

    It will not be difficult for the Americans to bring down a couple of Aglitz aircraft, but the provocation can turn out really real, and then the world media will spread it around the world ..................
  • SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 11 October 2015 15: 39
    +3
    Quote: vovanpain
    Has Farmington decided to scare us with his pet dog, England?

    Do not set the right accents. In the long-established triumvirate: Great Britain-Vatican-USA, the head has always been Great Britain, the ideologist of the Vatican, and the frightening bogeyman is the United States. There is a lot of evidence for this, and if you want to make sure, start your research with why identical Egyptian stella were installed on the main squares of all three countries. recourse But this is a slightly different story ....
    And the rest
    Quote: vovanpain
    Well, well, since the beginning of our operation, the head has completely jammed, the return of a sickly one will fly.

    right train of thought hi
  • Lelek
    Lelek 11 October 2015 16: 06
    -1
    Quote: vovanpain
    Has Farmington decided to scare us with his pet dog, England?


    The question arose, what is NATO doing in Syria? Or have they expanded their area of ​​influence from the Pacific Ocean to the Pacific Ocean? Well, we need to close Syrian airspace. Who will appear in this zone - "I'm not to blame." request
  • vex
    vex 11 October 2015 19: 56
    +2
    The shavers were always the instigators of war, so that everyone would kill each other and could not reach their islands.
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 11 October 2015 12: 56
    -3
    The people confirmed information about the downed Mig 29 near Turkey? Or again stuffing be-be-ce? Or ours again classified?
    1. wow
      wow 11 October 2015 12: 59
      20
      Actually, our MiG-29 was not there. Where did he come from you need to find out from the "omniscient democratic" media. They already know and see truncated.
    2. nemec55
      nemec55 11 October 2015 13: 01
      11
      ????? Where is it written ??? / It’s also written on the fence, the link is please.
      1. Scandinavian
        Scandinavian 11 October 2015 13: 04
        10
        Our Kazakh trolls began to boast of this as conceived for NATO. The link is not given, but the precipitate is left. And you know, one throw will make and rushed through the forums.
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 11 October 2015 14: 21
          +2
          Likely your Kazakhs link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267595/Russian-jet-shot-Turkish-forces-
          flew-country-s-airspace.html on the Daily mail to the British of those fake producers of the Loch Ness monster is the work of this newspaper.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 October 2015 13: 07
      +7
      Quote: Scandinavian
      The people confirmed information about the downed Mig 29 near Turkey? Or again stuffing be-be-ce? Or ours again classified?

      Well, ours already said that MIGs, neither at bases in Syria nor in this region at all, belong to the Russian Federation and we did not have them there. Miserable unprofessional scam.
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 11 October 2015 14: 34
      +2
      if they had knocked it down, they would have screamed everything from CNN to the BBC
    5. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 11 October 2015 15: 04
      +3
      Others will not forget that there is a fierce info war.
      For the sake of distracting attention from their shame and political impotence, sinter saxons and hedgehogs with them will be found anywhere (who had at least a little similar planes), brought to be burnt next to Syria or Iraq, the debris will be scattered and raise a howl, poking with fingers. With them it will become. Freaks are moral, however.
      They can only sneak shit, and in a crowd - by the "progressive world community", because alone is something press-press.
      The screech and howl will stop (to a pissed whine in a dark corner) inversely with the increase in the scale and intensity of Russia's actions in the geopolitical space, coupled with the allies.
      The endless nightmare of the Anglo-Saxons must go on !!!
  • gav6757
    gav6757 11 October 2015 13: 13
    +9
    Aha
    A small caveat - you need to avoid meeting with Russian aircraft, and if it doesn’t work out, the pilot will feel threatened, then attack!
    For some reason, it seems to me that at first they will evade, and then they will not feel the threat ...
    Why do they need it?
    Live Hotz !!!
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 11 October 2015 13: 44
      11
      Nazyvaetsja sohranenie mordy lica ...
  • Andrea
    Andrea 11 October 2015 13: 19
    +2
    Quote: Baikonur

    If they try, ours will tear their farts to the British flag!
    A bad trend ... not only do they themselves do not want to fight with the IS, they are also trying to put sticks in the wheels for us.
    Who will determine the degree of danger, when you can just fart, and when to open fire. That's what is alarming!
    If you take into account the psychological tenderness of NATO warriors ... A psychoanalyst will not take or call with you, but fear has big eyes.
  • iConst
    iConst 11 October 2015 13: 36
    +9
    Quote: Baikonur
    If they try, ours will tear their farts to the British flag!

    Back in the 45th, Kozhedub flunked two pendocs. The surviving pilot said they were a little mistaken - La-7 Kozheduba was mistaken for a fokker.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 11 October 2015 21: 34
      +2
      Quote: iConst
      The surviving pilot said that they were a little mistaken - La-7 Kozheduba was mistaken for a fokker.
      According to I.N. Kozhedub, these were two little black, curly-haired with big lips flier. And they did not confuse anything, for they were engaged in attacking our airfields, knocking our pilots on take-off from the airfield, which was attacked by amov. And he pinched them at the comcor’s order, flying out for free hunting. After that, the raids ended, as if the grandmother had whispered.
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 11 October 2015 13: 50
    23
    Quote: Baikonur
    If they try, ours will tear their farts to the British flag


    Well, you can answer them like in 1977, the commander of the BOD Vasily Chapaev answered when entering Bombay when he was warned at the raid by an American aircraft carrier that if he tried to enter, he would raise his planes, the answer was "lift, there will be nowhere to land." Mutual understanding improved immediately.
  • Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver 11 October 2015 14: 19
    +5
    No, do not tear. English pilots were allowed to attack Russian planes, but they would definitely be forbidden to take off. tongue
  • Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 11 October 2015 14: 33
    0
    ah-th-th-th-I have a tantrum !!!!!!!!!!! A soldier will not offend a child, like that!
  • edge
    edge 11 October 2015 15: 07
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    If they try, ours will tear their farts to the British flag!

    actually, the shaves of the master of provocations also use any chance to start another war (and the last 2 world ones are an example)
  • Sterlya
    Sterlya 11 October 2015 15: 35
    +1
    I hope there will be no conflict. We do not need this. But if there is a provocation, it must be given in the teeth so that the head flies off unambiguously. Provocations are likely to be.
  • smershxnumx
    smershxnumx 11 October 2015 16: 58
    +1
    I suggest urgently dropping on diapers! winked
  • Longmire
    Longmire 11 October 2015 18: 23
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    If they try, ours will tear their farts to the British flag!

    Well, kaneshno, all 6 bombers will be overtaken by the royal air force and will be torn again ....
  • Petrovich1952
    Petrovich1952 11 October 2015 20: 39
    0
    If they try, ours will tear their farts on the British flag! Better on the US stripes more.
  • VP
    VP 11 October 2015 20: 49
    +3
    It's amazing how you can become a marshal, throwing all the hats.
    And who will "tear"?
    Bombers?
    Su-25?
    Or as many as 4 Su-30s to the entire Middle East against many dozens of NATO fighters?
    And, well, yes, you don’t have to tear up, so such trifles never concern you.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 October 2015 02: 06
      +1
      Quote: VP
      Or as many as 4 Su-30s to the entire Middle East against many dozens of NATO fighters?

      We don’t take into account the air defense systems that were delivered to Syria, which Iran bought, as I understand it. As well as our naval grouping off the Syrian coast with the same sea-based air defense systems, as well as electronic warfare systems, we also do not take into account? Iranian Air Force as I understand it to the side ... Then of course, where are there 4 SUSHKY against the swarm of NATO aces wassat
      1. VP
        VP 12 October 2015 04: 28
        0
        Of course we do not take into account. The basis of the air defense group at the airfield is Shell. Take a look for fun radius of action. Even if there is a beech. Useless from this?
        Fleet. And what will he get from the Mediterranean Sea to Iraq, Interson?
        Reveal this great mystery to us.
        The area of ​​the airfield and the coastal zone are covered, well, not like the Darkness in question
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 12 October 2015 08: 50
          +1
          Quote: VP
          Fleet. And what will he get from the Mediterranean Sea to Iraq, Interson?

          And our DRY now fly over Iraq? Do you know more than others?
  • Greyhound famously
    Greyhound famously 12 October 2015 01: 39
    0
    I remember that not so long ago the British got the experience of confrontation with the Su-30 of the Indian Air Force.
    http://ria.ru/world/20150807/1169100924.html
    So it is quite possible to predict what the outcome will be in the same confrontation over Syria but with the participation of our pilots.
    1. VP
      VP 12 October 2015 06: 33
      0
      This is an experience of close combat flight. Do you think that in real battles it will be so, everyone will try to get into each other's tail and not launch missiles from 30 kilometers?
  • Vend
    Vend 11 October 2015 12: 50
    22
    Quote: fox21h
    Well, flying scrap metal did you think of yourself there?
    Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.

    Our falcons are certainly good, but you can attack unexpectedly. In general, this appeal of the British is like an open call for war and the defense of ISIS.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 11 October 2015 12: 52
      11
      And also, right there, he burst out laughing:
      British Air Force pilots instructed at any price avoid contact with Russian fighters
      laughing
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 October 2015 13: 24
      +4
      Quote: Wend
      Quote: fox21h
      Well, flying scrap metal did you think of yourself there?
      Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.

      Our falcons are certainly good, but you can attack unexpectedly. In general, this appeal of the British is like an open call for war and the defense of ISIS.

      Suddenly, they will not succeed. Serious anti-aircraft defense deployed in Syria. This can be judged by the reports of the American media that their stealth drone drone (in particular, “Global Hawk” and “Predator”)
      were repeatedly intercepted by the Russian Air Force. And it happened so that the American warriors themselves could not determine the detection technology. They discovered this when their drones were already illuminated by Russian weapon guidance radars! So it goes request
      1. retardu
        retardu 11 October 2015 13: 31
        +2
        Well, ground-based air defense will not cover all of Syria while at the base, nothing.
        And about this article, articles about drones and other clashes where someone refers to anonymous sources or retired generals, nonsense, IMHO.
        When there was a situation with Cook, the Pentagon made an official statement.
        And here is the reason to gain popularity of the channel
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 11 October 2015 13: 44
          +3
          Quote: retardu
          Well, ground-based air defense will not cover all of Syria while at the base, nothing.

          Our air defense is located not only at our bases in Syria, where did you get this in general? A network of unmanned aerial vehicles, air defense of Russian ships in Tartus and the water area is operating from Syria, a group of GLONASS satellites is involved, most important objects are probably covered by Panyr-S. Su-30SM are constantly in the air. And god knows what else. For a relatively small territory of Syria, this is more than enough.
          1. retardu
            retardu 11 October 2015 18: 20
            0
            Only su-30, like drones and glonass, will help ground defense for hundreds of kilometers from what you have called. Will they launch missiles? No.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 11 October 2015 14: 39
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        They discovered this when their drones were already illuminated by Russian weapon guidance radars! So it goes



        It is necessary not to highlight, but to bring down ...
      3. Longmire
        Longmire 12 October 2015 04: 05
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        Serious anti-aircraft defense deployed in Syria. This can be judged by the reports of the American media that their stealth drone drone (in particular, “Global Hawk” and “Predator”)
        especially when you consider that
        Global Hawk and Betrayer are not stealth laughing
    3. Private Starley
      Private Starley 11 October 2015 13: 29
      0
      This is not even an appeal ... this is a direct threat, they say they were going to shoot down the unfriendly ... One wish to the RF flyers: -Be alert ...! These creatures love to beat around the corner and stealth ... Although, they are already there with diapers already flying ...
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 11 October 2015 12: 56
    +9
    “The Tornado airplanes of the Royal Air Force will be equipped with air-to-air missiles and were given the blessing to attack unfriendly Russian aircraft,” the publication says.

    An attempt at an attack with a very high probability can end very badly for these Tornadoes and their airfields! By the way they will automatically pass into the category of ISIS aviation. am
    “At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed at all costs to avoid contact with Russian fighters”

    But this is a sound idea.
    1. SSR
      SSR 11 October 2015 13: 05
      +3
      Quote: GSH-18
      “The Tornado airplanes of the Royal Air Force will be equipped with air-to-air missiles and were given the blessing to attack unfriendly Russian aircraft,” the publication says.

      An attempt at an attack with a very high probability can end very badly for these Tornadoes and their airfields! By the way they will automatically pass into the category of ISIS aviation. am
      “At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed at all costs to avoid contact with Russian fighters”

      But this is a sound idea.

      In general, the Naglosak policy is indicative, that is, at supersonic speeds there is a great danger of collision and threat, and their order to open FIRE is not a threat?
      PS
      I repeat. Iraq must ask the Russian Federation for the deployment of air defense in Iraq and prohibit the flights of the Saxophone. (Although the arrogant Saxons do not listen to them because the air defense of Iraq has been removed / destroyed completely.
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 11 October 2015 13: 16
        +4
        The more successful the actions of the Russian air forces, the greater the likelihood of provocation like the Malaysian Boeing. Now there is a sounding of the reaction to this stuffing of InosMI. Next, an analysis will be carried out and the preparation of the provocation itself will begin.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 11 October 2015 13: 49
          +2
          Pakost oni gotovjat odnoznacno ... Skoro uvidim ...
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 11 October 2015 14: 11
            +5
            Quote: Karlovar
            Pakost oni gotovjat odnoznacno ... Skoro uvidim ...

            Perhaps .. But whoever is warned is armed! And about this indirectly, and the Americans trindels, "the shooting down of Russian planes will begin soon," and now this infa from non-profit Britain .. I think ours are initially packed and ready for anything. And the firing of cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea was not accidental either. "Calibers" will easily reach all coalition airfields in the region request
            I think all the opponents understand this well.
            1. volgroo
              volgroo 11 October 2015 20: 37
              -1
              TASS ... Caspian fleet destroyed ISIS airdrome caliber missiles with Phantoms located on them ...)))))
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 11 October 2015 13: 40
        +5
        The source of information is so-so ... this press is yellowish. I think that no one will specifically fight with us. But to throw a tantrum with or without reason, this is from our Naglosokson "partners", forgive God, always please. winked It is beneficial for the United States and Great Britain that this problem with Alkaida and ISIL should be decided by the Russian Aerospace Forces. For there is no more confidence in the current policy of the West in BV.
        The situation in the BV dictates a new strategy for the withdrawal of the Brit and the US from the region.
        The cost of the military component has long exceeded the reasonable chapels and benefits from cheap oil from BV.One pentagon spent 1996 of 8,5 of the trillion dollars from XNUMX of the year, and could not report on the expenses.
        57 thousand sorties, despite the fact that every sixth sortie was empty. All this somehow does not give hope to the Western public. And now the Pentagon general has also published a report on the actions of the UAV, in which it is clearly seen that often fields and lonely farm buildings were bombed. These are the "effective" bombings from NATO. And then the people wonder why the Americans are talking about excavators, hospitals and weddings. And there is no one on earth who would correct their bomb strikes.
        1. retardu
          retardu 11 October 2015 14: 47
          0
          Quote: Sid.74
          And lonely farm buildings.

          How to determine?) Farm building or hidden command post?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 11 October 2015 15: 27
            +7
            Quote: retardu
            How to determine?) Farm building or hidden command post?


            definitely not a wedding and not an excavator .. and the "farmer" in a pickup truck quickly gave it ..

            Do you know the word intelligence? and if a drone hangs over a farm building, then a peaceful tractor can certainly be removed from a high-speed camel from a school drive to a hump ..
          2. Sid.74
            Sid.74 11 October 2015 15: 29
            +9
            Quote: retardu
            How to determine?) Farm building or hidden command post?

            With the help of ground reconnaissance, which I understand, neither NATO nor the United States have any.
            But in the photographs in the Lockheed Martin reports, it is clearly shown how nearby farmhouses are bombed next to fortifications, and the fortified area is bypassed. And what the West is doing now is an imitation of the fight against IS, not a real fight. Recently, the Iraqi troops covered the militant camp and found US parachutes. The US sent parcels to IS. This is how the West "fights" against terrorism. Buying oil from IS and supplying it with weapons, destroying the infrastructure of Syria. And another NATO country, Turkey, is bombing the positions of the Kurdish militia in Syria, and Iraq, who are kind of like allies of the West in the fight against IS, and General Petraeus, calls An-Nusra (Alkaida) an ally of the United States in the fight against IS ... there are simply no words. The West has moved to direct support of terrorism. And your whole democracy is just divorce and hypocrisy. And the fighters trained by the CIA are even laughing at the chickens!negative
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          4. GSH-18
            GSH-18 11 October 2015 17: 08
            +1
            Quote: retardu
            How to determine?) Farm building or hidden command post?

            In order to determine this, there must be an intelligence intelligence network, which the American coalition in Syria does not have. But here we have it! That bombers amper hospitals, excavators and weddings, as well as the desert regions of Syria. And at this time IGO captures more and more new territories request
            1. retardu
              retardu 11 October 2015 18: 23
              0
              Well, of course, they probably wrote on the Internet what they have and what they don’t have laughing
              The fact that they seize the territory is not their fault, and not a special desire to fight the Iraqi army.
              I have already cited several times how many cities they helped to free, in Syria and in Iraq. Or do they want them to fight for them?
          5. K-50
            K-50 11 October 2015 19: 18
            +2
            Quote: retardu
            How to determine?) Farm building or hidden command post?

            By radio intensity, at least. hi
  • War and Peace
    War and Peace 11 October 2015 13: 29
    +2
    Media: British fighter aircraft are allowed to attack Russian aircraft in case of danger to life


    oops big war, or what? and what the hell is shaved aircraft doing in the skies of a sovereign state of Syria? This is a very dangerous order, especially considering our eternal caution to do everything "according to the law" when all other countries did not give a damn about the laws. If the shaved ones attack, and ours will answer, then it will be a big BOOM ...
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 11 October 2015 14: 43
      +2
      Quote: War and Peace
      oops a big war, or what? and what the hell is shaved aviation doing in the sky of a sovereign state Syria?


      It's about airspace IraqEtc.

      These are our planes so far in Syria ... However, there is already an agreement that part of the Russian planes will be based at one of the air bases in Iraq ... And what a bummer is about - that Amer planes are based at the same airfield ...

      So far, silence ... Iraqis have suggested - ours are thinking ...
      1. War and Peace
        War and Peace 11 October 2015 15: 32
        -1
        Quote: veksha50

        It is about the airspace of Iraq ...

        These are our planes so far in Syria ... However, there is already an agreement that part of the Russian planes will be based at one of the air bases in Iraq ... And what a bummer is about - that Amer planes are based at the same airfield ...


        so ours, the Americans, Iraq, and where does the shaved?
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 11 October 2015 21: 55
          0
          Quote: War and Peace
          so ours, americans, iraq, and where does the shaved?



          Hmm ... They cover ... ugh, destroy ... unshaven, entering a coalition from 65 countries ... So, either on this base, or nearby, on another, there are their planes ...

          There are custodians there ... in general, every creature in a pair ... It is said - 65 countries !!!
  • Karlovar
    Karlovar 11 October 2015 13: 36
    +5
    Oni tak bzdjat .... svoeobrazno ...
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 11 October 2015 13: 37
    +1
    Quote: fox21h
    Well, flying scrap metal did you think of yourself there?
    Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.
    Actually, it’s more like an exhaust of media or politicians, if seriously trying to bring down our plane for the attacker will turn out to be very big problems, even my mother will not have time to say a word ...

    A lot of interesting news, China sends an aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean Sea to the coast of Syria (it would be interesting if Chinese planes join the bombing of terrorists), Iran is testing a new long-range ballistic missile. North Korea launched a new missile yesterday.
    The United States is probably in a state of infarction.
  • Juborg
    Juborg 11 October 2015 13: 41
    +2
    I don’t think the words “scrap metal”, “ours will tear”, etc. are correct. We fly and bomb on rarities of the Cold War, with a few exceptions. Any vehicle carrying missiles or a cannon is a potential threat not only to our aircraft, but primarily to pilots (our people!). Time will tell who will break whom, but to take an official permission, or even better a request from the legitimate government to carry out bombings (as with Syria!), This will be the best protection in case of provocations of the "partners".
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 October 2015 14: 39
      +3
      Quote: juborg
      We fly the same and bomb the rarities of the Cold War

      Dear, you are apparently not in the subject. Su-24 and Su-25 aircraft used in Syria are a very deep modernization of Soviet options. In fact, only the glider remained untouched, which misleads ordinary people. But in fact, these are all-weather modern bombers and attack aircraft using high-precision weapon systems (which they naturally did not have in Soviet times).
    2. edge
      edge 11 October 2015 15: 36
      +3
      Quote: juborg
      We fly the same and bomb on rarities

      but say cute-akm m-16 is not a rarity? Germans out of the latest g-36 refuse .... here you have rarities
  • self-propelled
    self-propelled 11 October 2015 14: 04
    +2
    Quote: fox21h
    Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.
    Actually, it’s more like an exhaust of media or politicians, if seriously trying to bring down our plane for the attacking side will turn out to be very big problems, even my mother will not have time to say a word ..

    an attack on the property of the Russian Federation (regardless of the type of property) is fraught with consequences! Are the Britons afraid of retaliation ?! and so all NATO is on the ears "from the actions of the Russians." or do the Britons still consider themselves a great and invincible empire? dear, your time has passed (and you have become a bedding for the Yusovites, despite your imperial ambitions). behave more modestly. the whole world (in spite of its best analysts) does not know what the next step of the GDP will be ... perhaps this step will be in the direction of "stupid crap." isn't it scary?
  • mihasik
    mihasik 11 October 2015 14: 23
    +4
    Quote: fox21h
    Actually, it’s more like exhaust media or politicians

    I think that such an order is received by any pilot, including ours in a combat situation, and there is nothing unusual here, but ...
    Ours do not put it out in the public eye, unlike NATO. This is another PR with nasty pants: like "We are still cooler and more important here"!
    And now from the side of international laws.
    Example: An airplane of an illegal coalition represented by NATO is shot down by a Russian aerospace forces aircraft in Syria, which is a legal force from the point of view of international law.
    Who will be right when disassembling at the UN?)
    So as the saying goes: "Whoever has more rights is the one who is right!" And ours now have more).
    So this is another NATO "bunch" in the desert.
    PS By the way, at the expense of covering our VKS. Do not forget about the cruiser "Moscow").
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 October 2015 16: 11
      +2
      Quote: mihasik
      So this is another NATO "bunch" in the desert.
      PS By the way, at the expense of covering our VKS. Do not forget about the cruiser "Moscow").

      Reasonable remark. Its 16 heavy anti-ship missiles can make more noise than 26 "Calibers"! hi
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  • Persistent
    Persistent 11 October 2015 15: 56
    +4
    Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.


    .
    The State Duma advised Britain "not to wake up a Russian bear" because of the permission of NATO pilots to attack the aircraft of the Russian Federation lol fool

    Earlier, the London newspaper Daily Star Sunday, citing its own sources in the British defense department, said that in case of danger, Tornado multipurpose fighters received the right to attack Russian aircraft in Iraqi airspace.
    According to a member of the State Duma’s Defense Committee, Vladimir Bessonov, these actions can only be regarded as an attempt by the UK to "raise its profile" in the region. The parliamentarian told about this to the Moscow Says radio station.
    “Firstly, it is possible to question whether this permission or not. And secondly, the application is very doubtful - the speed is from a thousand to two thousand kilometers per hour, the removal of ten kilometers, how can one determine if there is a threat to life or not a threat to life? Frowned, huh? There is nothing behind this, just an attempt by England to raise its profile in the Middle East. And any serious actions can be a threat to the adequate actions of Russia, and from my point of view, it is better for England not to wake up the Russian bear, ”the deputy said.

    The Russian ambassador to Britain later requested clarification from the Kingdom’s Foreign Ministry regarding the publication in the Daily Star Sunday. “Concerned by media reports, since it is a question of links to senior cabinet members. An urgent request for clarification from the British Foreign Office. At the same time, the very hypothesis of a potential conflict between British and Russian aircraft in the sky over Iraq is not clear. As you know, Russian aviation does not participate in attacks on IS facilities in the territory of this state, ”he quotes“ Russia Today. ”
  • papas-57
    papas-57 11 October 2015 16: 25
    +1
    Have new diapers brought to the warehouses of the British Air Force?
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  • meriem1
    meriem1 11 October 2015 16: 32
    +1
    Quote: fox21h
    Well, flying scrap metal did you think of yourself there?
    Try it, you won’t even have time to pull the catapult.
    Actually, it’s more like an exhaust of media or politicians, if seriously trying to bring down our plane for the attacker will turn out to be very big problems, even my mother will not have time to say a word ...


    They here on the discovery channel touted their shelter))) But they did not forget to say that all the details are from TITANIUM. made in Russia !!! Or from Russian titanium rolled, etc., etc. Let them revel in their hopes !!!
  • Finches
    Finches 11 October 2015 16: 56
    +2
    I think this is fake! There are a lot of freaks in London, but they don’t have suicides!
  • varov14
    varov14 11 October 2015 17: 18
    +1
    The partners are completely overwhelmed, so try to create a joint coalition.
  • Alexey Lesogor
    Alexey Lesogor 11 October 2015 18: 00
    0
    or a Russian pilot may be mistakenly shot down


    Does the IG have airplanes? Who can confuse our pilots with?
  • Kent0001
    Kent0001 11 October 2015 18: 29
    0
    Sit at home if it is dangerous for you to fly next to us, and we should be fighting. That's all.
  • YARUSSIAN39
    YARUSSIAN39 11 October 2015 19: 49
    0
    It is precisely said, plus I read that in addition to bombs, air-to-air missiles are also installed on our planes and bombers, so the British are in any case hung with "lyuly": D
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 October 2015 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: RUSSIAN39
      It is precisely said, plus I read that in addition to bombs, air-to-air missiles are also installed on our planes and bombers, so the British are in any case hung with "lyuly": D

      Who in general will let the British into the Syrian sky? We blocked it and the Americans were very sad about this. If the Englishman decides to fly in to bring down our plane, he will either calm down the air defense system on the way, or the electronic warfare systems, or the pilots themselves. So the Englishman is still flying over Syria, while it will look out for our planes, it is necessary to survive.
      In addition, which state will exhibit aggression, especially in direct confrontation, with respect to a state with nuclear weapons?
  • Baloo
    Baloo 11 October 2015 21: 48
    0
    Everyone was so excited about this fake. Ours have long agreed on areas of responsibility. Ours do not fly to where the arrogant Saxons, arrogant Saxons do not climb to us.
    They are trying to put pressure on us, to discredit our assistance to Syria.
    Assad's "guilt" before the Naglo-Saxons, Saudis, Janissaries and macaques from Fashington not only in pipelines, but primarily in a new gas field.
    These jackals gnaw at Syria, and the initiator of the destruction of Syria as a state-Erdogan. They have already decided everything for themselves, as with Libya, Iraq and further on the list. hi
  • kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 12 October 2015 10: 39
    0
    What can you say on this score the land will rest in peace with the British Air Force pilots!
  • Enot_33
    Enot_33 11 October 2015 12: 46
    18
    In my opinion this is a fake. Britons were never distinguished by iron eggs.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 11 October 2015 12: 54
      +9
      Quote: Enot_33
      In my opinion this is a fake. Britons were never distinguished by iron eggs.


      I don’t even want to comment ...

      “At the same time, pilots of the British Air Force were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at any cost,” the newspaper notes.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 11 October 2015 13: 02
        20
        Quote: vorobey
        I don’t even want to comment ...

        “At the same time, pilots of the British Air Force were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at any cost,” the newspaper notes.

        In the sky of Iraq ... Where our planes are not lol
        It's all empty. If the Iraqi government asks for help from Russia, then the British will squirrel from there quickly and they will have to cheek out in some other place.
        Meanwhile, on the border of Syria and Turkey:
        At this place, the brave ISIS become poor refugees. Cast back beards and forward to Europe through Turkey. Still scary when Russia is at war.

        1. vorobey
          vorobey 11 October 2015 13: 06
          +4
          Quote: GRAY
          If the Iraqi government asks for help from Russia, the British will squirrel from there quickly and


          while again safely passing .. in the arrival of our aircraft in Iraq ..
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 11 October 2015 13: 15
            +4
            Quote: vorobey
            while again safely passing .. in the arrival of our aircraft in Iraq ..

            Even if they notice, they still can not do anything.
            1. kil 31
              kil 31 11 October 2015 13: 56
              +3
              Quote: GRAY
              Quote: vorobey
              while again safely passing .. in the arrival of our aircraft in Iraq ..

              Even if they notice, they still can not do anything.

              I would not be so optimistic. Amers in Iraq have several bases, if we find ourselves there we have to agree on air corridors. This they naturally do not accept. They will simply forbid the Iraqi government to invite us. We adhere to international law and cannot without an invitation.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 11 October 2015 14: 12
                +1
                Quote: keel 31
                They will simply forbid the Iraqi government to invite us. We adhere to international law and cannot without an invitation.


                Caliber invitation is also required?
              2. GRAY
                GRAY 11 October 2015 14: 20
                +1
                Quote: keel 31
                I have to agree on air corridors. This they naturally do not accept. They will simply forbid the Iraqi government to invite us

                At the current stage, Russia does not need this, too many resources will be required. First, in Syria, success must be achieved, if it succeeds, then Amers will trample from the region.
                1. kil 31
                  kil 31 11 October 2015 14: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: GRAY
                  Quote: keel 31
                  I have to agree on air corridors. This they naturally do not accept. They will simply forbid the Iraqi government to invite us

                  At the current stage, Russia does not need this, too many resources will be required. First, in Syria, success must be achieved, if it succeeds, then Amers will trample from the region.

                  So I about the same. We don’t have a lot of money to fill all countries with their videoconferencing. Now squeeze this pimple out of Syria and then we'll see. Actually, the Americans promised to protect them, let them protect. If they fail, then the Iraqis will have to kick them out and invite us. But then they will have to give amer bases for at least a hundred years. Article is garbage for a dumb English man in the street, any normal person knows we are flying over Syria, and Iraq is a completely different state. Why scare the Russians if they are not there at all? hi
                  1. GRAY
                    GRAY 11 October 2015 15: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: keel 31
                    Article is bullshit for a dumb English man in the street,

                    A refutation is already there.
                    The press service of the British Ministry of Defense told TASS that "they are not commenting on such statements by the press," making it clear that this information is not correct.
                    Earlier today, the London tabloid Daily Star Sunday, citing certain sources in the defense department, wrote: pilots of NATO countries, including British Tornado fighter pilots, received the go-ahead to open fire on Russian military aircraft in Iraqi airspace.
                    1. kil 31
                      kil 31 11 October 2015 15: 16
                      0
                      Quote: GRAY
                      Quote: keel 31
                      Article is bullshit for a dumb English man in the street,

                      A refutation is already there.
                      The press service of the British Ministry of Defense told TASS that "they are not commenting on such statements by the press," making it clear that this information is not correct.
                      Earlier today, the London tabloid Daily Star Sunday, citing certain sources in the defense department, wrote: pilots of NATO countries, including British Tornado fighter pilots, received the go-ahead to open fire on Russian military aircraft in Iraqi airspace.

                      Well, this is to be expected. Here's how to make sure that their people do not hawala. For me, this is not a solvable mystery. hi
                2. iConst
                  iConst 11 October 2015 15: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: GRAY
                  Quote: keel 31
                  I have to agree on air corridors. This they naturally do not accept. They will simply forbid the Iraqi government to invite us

                  At the current stage, Russia does not need this, too many resources will be required. First, in Syria, success must be achieved, if it succeeds, then Amers will trample from the region.

                  How to say - if you do not finish the hydra, it will grow its head. And the main territory of ISIS is still the territory of Iraq.

                  And then - who said about the resources? Crossing the pendos from the Middle East - and so far they can only have a bridgehead in Iraq - is worth a lot.
                  Why not save resources - time, a blow to prestige (you tried hard, tried, and the apple fell into the hands of Russia) - you can’t calculate the savings by any means.
              3. iConst
                iConst 11 October 2015 14: 58
                +3
                Quote: keel 31
                They will simply forbid the Iraqi government to invite us.
                - Saying that the Iraqi government is looking in the mouth amers not necessary.
                Although the pandocs formed a coalition government, where posts are divided between representatives of the Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds, it is premature to talk about loyalty to the Americans.

                The same Sunnis bent their finger on the Americans not so much for Saddam as for lost privileges and war, Shiites, contrary to expectations, did not support the Pendocs, and their religious leaders called for a jihad against the United States.

                In general, the situation is difficult and they can completely, having forgotten about the feuds for a while, politically unite against the mattresses in the direction of Russia.
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 11 October 2015 21: 58
          0
          Quote: GRAY
          At this place, the brave ISIS turn into poor refugees.



          I looked at these pictures - it seemed that a bunch of dead rats were lying around ...
      2. fif21
        fif21 11 October 2015 13: 21
        +3
        Quote: vorobey
        At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at all costs, ”the newspaper notes.
        And it is right! Ours and without permission will blow if their lives are in danger yes
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      4. veksha50
        veksha50 11 October 2015 14: 46
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        Avoid contact with Russian fighters at all costs



        Well so ... What are the problems ??? Fly around for 50-100 versts, and even better - fly, pigeons, home ...
      5. WUA 518
        WUA 518 11 October 2015 15: 53
        +7
        Quote: vorobey
        “At the same time, pilots of the British Air Force were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at any cost,” the newspaper notes.

        Caption: I'm with that moron
    2. zanoza
      zanoza 11 October 2015 12: 55
      13
      Quote: Enot_33
      In my opinion this is a fake.

      I also have a suspicion of this.
      Strange logic. Russian Air Force bomb ISIS (terrorists)In Syria, and it seems to Brit that this is a threat to their Air Force in iraq??? Such a conclusion can only be made if ISIS and the British are one.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 11 October 2015 13: 19
        +5
        Quote: zanoza
        and it seems to Brit that this is a threat to their air force in Iraq ???

        It can be assumed that they are afraid of losing the ISIL supply channel. The Iraqis recently found American parachutes again - they swore hard.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 11 October 2015 22: 02
        0
        Quote: zanoza
        Strange logic. The Russian Air Force bomb ISIS (terrorists) in Syria, and the Britons think that this is a threat to their Air Force in Iraq ???



        They are afraid that Russia will decide to correct the mistake made by the Soviet troops when meeting on the Elbe ... And in the case of the stupid behavior of foreign pilots, both British and Amer pilots will get ...

        Look, while the Syrian air defense is tightly holding the Turkish fighters ... The situation can be changed by delivering air defense systems from Russia by "express" ...
      3. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 12 October 2015 15: 15
        0
        Quote: zanoza

        [b] Strange logic. [/ b] Russian Air Force bomb ISIS (terrorists) [b] in Syria [/ b], and the Britons think that this is a threat to their Air Force [b] in Iraq

        They just have tight geography.
    3. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 11 October 2015 13: 06
      0
      Quote: Enot_33
      Britons were never distinguished by iron eggs.

      What is this conclusion drawn from?
      1. Rivares
        Rivares 11 October 2015 13: 18
        +6
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        What is this conclusion drawn from?

        From historical experience. The Britons can only fight with the wrong hands. Can you name the victories of the British Tommy for the last 100 years, at least equal in strength to the enemy? I have not seen this.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 11 October 2015 13: 30
          12
          Quote: Rivares
          Can you name the victories of the British Tommy for the last 100 years, at least equal in strength to the enemy? I have not seen this.


          Rommel had only a handful of soldiers, but he still managed to capture the fort of El Mekili. For unprecedented courage, the nation considered him a national hero, which is why the radio and the world press of all the warring countries paid him so much attention in their reports. When he embarked on the siege of the fort, he had 7 tanks and 4 armored personnel carriers. Trucks, radio stations, field kitchens and several Volkswagen vehicles were in the upcoming convoy, the main task of which was to raise as much dust as possible on the flanks, so that the enemy mistook them for a large tank formation. As a result of a sudden attack and because of the hasty flight of the British, almost all enemy army depots fell into the hands of German soldiers. Here was everything the advancing army could dream of - fuel, transport, food, weapons and ammunition. These gigantic trophies allowed Rommel to continue eastward. The reasons for the triumphal victories in the first battles in the African desert were as incomprehensible to the Germans as the British could not understand the reasons for their cruel defeats
        2. Andrey NM
          Andrey NM 11 October 2015 13: 39
          +1
          Argentina was fought quite successfully in 1982, and even at such a distance from the main bases.
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 11 October 2015 19: 16
            +2
            Argentina, in fact, could have won if it had not been for the use of high-precision missile weapons by the British (which Argentina could not counteract).

            England, after all, is not a sea power for large-scale ground hostilities. It has only well-trained special operations forces and a "NATO roof". They usually operate in conjunction with the American army. Accordingly, the methods and tactics are the same. They also don’t bother with strategic planning and thinking - this is not needed for a war with the “Papuans” and “Arabs”. And planning a war with Russia is still pointless. So they live - focusing on bribery and betrayal of pseudo-elites. For they know that in large-scale ground (and without hi-tech military resourse) military operations, the MTR and their tactics are not suitable.
            And as history and modern practice show, it is too early to write off the classic method. Especially if it is being improved.

            Therefore, the Anglo-Saxons come up with and push through "rules" and mythical international laws of waging war and other nonsense in their own interests, so as not to be beaten. And there are those who follow and adhere to this (how, after all, the world community ?!), but not for long, but the consequences of this are irreparable.
        3. gomer
          gomer 11 October 2015 14: 13
          +6
          And in the Crimea, the elite was put under our guns. Then they finished the fight ...
        4. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 11 October 2015 15: 40
          +2
          Quote: Rivares
          Can you name the victories of the British Tommy for the last 100 years, at least equal in strength to the enemy? I have not seen this.

          But nevertheless they became winners in the First World War.
          They fought well in the 18 century with the French and Spaniards, at sea, Admiral Nelson.
          So the Britons came across with iron eggs.
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 12 October 2015 01: 08
            +1
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            They fought well in the 18 century with the French and Spaniards, at sea, Admiral Nelson.
            So the Britons came across with iron eggs.


            I could not resist, I'm sorry, but their future elite in the Crimea ("Attack of the light cavalry") was knocked out. Although ours, for many years, was later also ordered in order.
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 12 October 2015 09: 09
              0
              Quote: zvereok
              I could not resist, I'm sorry, but their future elite in the Crimea ("Attack of the light cavalry") was knocked out. Although ours, for many years, was later also ordered in order.

              The British fought a lot, they had setbacks as well as ours.
    4. K-50
      K-50 11 October 2015 13: 16
      +8
      Quote: Enot_33
      In my opinion this is a fake. Britons were never distinguished by iron eggs.

      Fake, not fake. request
      But if only a British moron or his ilk fell for our plane, it doesn’t matter how he then explains his decision, if of course he remains alive, then such a mess can begin that he cannot speak in a fairy tale or utter a rumor.
      Of course, the Russian Air Force will frolic if the return team is there, but our guys will get there.
      In addition, the conflict will immediately grow from regional to global. Who cares? Mattresses of course.
      But still, such decisions can end in very big blood.
      Maybe the little Brittossaxians think that the Russians do not have enough spirit? request
      And if enough? What remains of the tin islands, memories on old maps and the tradition of antiquity deep?
      Somehow I would bring them to my senses without kindling a universal fire. No.
    5. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 11 October 2015 13: 58
      0
      Quote: Enot_33
      Britons were never distinguished by iron eggs.

      But periodically knew how to fight. what
  • Wezen
    Wezen 11 October 2015 12: 46
    18
    Try it guys! Attack Russian planes - this is not to bomb the desert! The answer is 100% will fly!
    1. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 11 October 2015 14: 15
      +3
      Our transporters fly through Iran and Iraq. Are there any attempts to close this route?
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 11 October 2015 12: 47
    +5
    They lost their mind completely.
  • Snake AAA
    Snake AAA 11 October 2015 12: 47
    +8
    These stupid media of the Anglo-Saxons and want to start a war, let Hitler remember, and think whether they need it !!!
  • emeldos2
    emeldos2 11 October 2015 12: 48
    +5
    afraid means respect. what was given to bring down the planes of Russia, thereby they set themselves up for a full-scale war and Britain will cease to exist in one hour.
  • 341712
    341712 11 October 2015 12: 48
    +6
    NATO pilots, including British pilots flying on Tornado fighters, are given the right to attack Russian combat aircraft in Iraqi airspace if there is a “threat to their lives,” TASS reports in a London-based Daily Star Sunday newspaper citing their sources.

    And in time?
    1. udincev
      udincev 11 October 2015 12: 57
      +1
      Quote: 341712
      And in time?

      Have time for what?
      Use the right to shoot down or obey instructions
      Avoid contact with Russian fighters at all costs

      Some kind of muddy information "of its source".
  • Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 11 October 2015 12: 48
    +9
    In general, the West exposes Russian pilots as a kind of threat, and we are talking about Iraq, where our aerospace forces are not yet represented at all. Russia is limited to Syria, but the Western press is already preparing the world for warfare in Iraq.
  • yushch
    yushch 11 October 2015 12: 48
    +5
    A link to "their sources" would be given by small-haired people, otherwise it looks like another button accordion. An attack on any aircraft of the Russian Federation means declaring war on it. Unless, of course, our planes start the attack first, which I doubt very much.
  • roskot
    roskot 11 October 2015 12: 50
    +5
    Well, we didn’t shoot down your planes. You want to try it. Do not be mistaken. Warning.
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 11 October 2015 12: 51
    +4
    Yes, this is nonsense. This cannot be. Attacking those who bomb terrorists will be a complete collapse of Cameron.
  • gjv
    gjv 11 October 2015 12: 51
    +5
    At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at all costs

    There is always a threat to life. For example, a brick on your head may fall or slip on a banana skin. So it's better for the British to avoid the act and not take off at all. Train on the ground with a brick and sandpaper.
    1. Altona
      Altona 11 October 2015 12: 58
      0
      Quote: gjv
      There is always a threat to life. For example, a brick on your head may fall or slip on a banana skin. So it's better for the British to avoid the act and not take off at all. Train on the ground with a brick and sandpaper.

      --------------------------
      There, in general, the air defense systems are deployed, I certainly don’t know, but no less than the S-300 ... And if so, somewhere in the Black Sea the destroyer Porter Boltaetstso ... stop
  • ser-pov
    ser-pov 11 October 2015 12: 52
    +7
    Let them not fly where our people work and there will be no threat to life ...
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  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 11 October 2015 12: 53
    +3
    “At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed at all costs to avoid contact with Russian fighters”
    However. First they showed how brave and mighty they are, and then into the bushes. And what can you call it?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 11 October 2015 13: 52
      +5
      Quote: EvgNik
      “At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed at all costs to avoid contact with Russian fighters”
      However. First they showed how brave and mighty they are, and then into the bushes. And what can you call it?

      You can call it something like: "They don't know what to do!" Either to attack, or to run away ... You cannot run away to attack. The age-old question: "Where to put the comma?"
      They never understood that our orders consist of one word, well, a maximum of two, where commas are not needed at all ...
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    3. Constructor1
      Constructor1 11 October 2015 14: 09
      +2
      Quote: EvgNik
      “At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed at all costs to avoid contact with Russian fighters”
      However. First they showed how brave and mighty they are, and then into the bushes. And what can you call it?


      I understand this in such a way that they were allowed to shoot down transporters, but they were told to stay away from the fighters!
  • nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 11 October 2015 12: 53
    +8
    This is a very dangerous permission. Pilots may get nervous, they may think something is wrong, or something else. Well, they will fire rockets at our fighters, and even, suppose, they will hit. Our plane will be shot down. And how will we need to react to this? The creation of a no-fly zone for all foreign flyers is impossible due to the lack of the proper quantity and quality of air defense systems, and the danger of an armed conflict, if such systems are delivered. Although, as an option, it is possible to transfer several S-300 systems of the latest modifications and Pantsirey-C1 to the Syrian government "on lease." And they will announce that they will shoot down all planes that fly without government approval.
    1. Rader
      Rader 11 October 2015 13: 08
      +2
      This is a very dangerous permission. Pilots may be nervous, they may seem something wrong, or something else.

      You're right. And this permission is dangerous, first of all, for the Western allies in the coalition. It is said about Iraq, so there are no Aerospace Forces planes there, and they will not fly in without an invitation from the Iraqi leadership ... But there are plenty of American planes in the skies over Iraq ... And if a pilot who is nervous, frightened by the Russians, sees a mark on the radar, promptly approaching from the border with Syria, then problems may arise in the camp of "partners"
  • Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 11 October 2015 12: 54
    +6
    The usual provocation.
    For subsequent excusatory words.
    Generally Saxons chickened.
    And very chickened.
    Were not good fighters and never will be wassat
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 11 October 2015 14: 05
      +1
      V stoletnuju vojnu saksy bolee sta let utjuzili francuzov na ih territorii !!! Francia neminuemo dolzna byla past! Potom slucilos realnoe cudo-Janna dArk ... Inogo objasnenija ne nahozu, kak inoplanetjane prislali Jannu francuzam ...
  • Noncombatant
    Noncombatant 11 October 2015 12: 55
    40 th
    Well now, let the enthusiastic Erefians explain what do Russian troops do in Syria? The West did not succeed in Ukraine (the August offensive of 2014, when ukram was stuck in the teeth), no question, they immediately sat down at the "negotiating table", imposed the Minsk tops, dragged them into Syria under the pretext of fighting ISIS, and then you can turn around. Nearby, to put it mildly, not friendly Turkey, next to Iran, a very specific partner. Now you can pour slop and "run up" on Russia, even if the Russian troops are holier than the Pope. A noble excuse. Whatever Russia is doing in Syria now is an excuse. A pretext for conflict. Allowed to shoot down. And these are "allies" in the coalition against terrorism. Class!
    At the same time, just a day's drive from Moscow are the Russians of Donbass, who were left to die, under the pressure of "peace-loving" agreements. But the faithful Alawites-Shiites-Sunnis (who are they there), it is imperative to protect from the malicious ISIS.
    Hurray for Putin, hurray for the "cunning plan" ... Perhaps, for a long time we were not forced to gracefully put a noose around our neck and at the same time sincerely smile.
    The West is forcing international politics towards a third world war. The largest planned victim of a new global redistribution of property and spheres of influence is the Russian Federation. The state of the Russian Federation in no way prevents the West from dismantling, but, on the contrary, by all means helps him in this. The policy of the Russian Federation in Novorossiya and the Donbass is a grandiose suicidal Betrayal of the Russians of Ukraine, and politics in Syria is a grandiose suicidal Madness, which will end in a war with the whole world of Islam.
    1. slava5553
      slava5553 11 October 2015 13: 11
      11
      No, we had to sit and wait for this infection to break out in Central Asia, and then in the Caucasus, and ultimately in Russia. There is little bloodshed in Russia for the 20th century, is it not time to take preventive actions to prevent it? . I will add that chatter at a high level will not help.
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 11 October 2015 13: 37
      13
      Quote: noncombant
      Well now, let the enthusiastic Erefians explain what do Russian troops do in Syria? The West did not succeed in Ukraine (the August offensive of 2014, when ukram was stuck in the teeth), no question, they immediately sat down at the "negotiating table", imposed the Minsk tops, dragged them into Syria under the pretext of fighting ISIS, and then you can turn around. Nearby, to put it mildly, not friendly Turkey, next to Iran, a very specific partner. Now you can pour slop and "run up" on Russia, even if the Russian troops are holier than the Pope. A noble excuse. Whatever Russia is doing in Syria now is an excuse. A pretext for conflict. Allowed to shoot down. And these are "allies" in the coalition against terrorism. Class!
      At the same time, just a day's drive from Moscow are the Russians of Donbass, who were left to die, under the pressure of "peace-loving" agreements. But the faithful Alawites-Shiites-Sunnis (who are they there), it is imperative to protect from the malicious ISIS.
      Hurray for Putin, hurray for the "cunning plan" ... Perhaps, for a long time we were not forced to gracefully put a noose around our neck and at the same time sincerely smile.
      The West is forcing international politics towards a third world war. The largest planned victim of a new global redistribution of property and spheres of influence is the Russian Federation. The state of the Russian Federation in no way prevents the West from dismantling, but, on the contrary, by all means helps him in this. The policy of the Russian Federation in Novorossiya and the Donbass is a grandiose suicidal Betrayal of the Russians of Ukraine, and politics in Syria is a grandiose suicidal Madness, which will end in a war with the whole world of Islam.


      Dear, are you currently thinking adequately ?! fool
    3. Proud.
      Proud. 11 October 2015 15: 53
      +4
      Quote: noncombant
      Well, now, let the enthusiastic Erefians explain what the Russian troops are doing in Syria?

      You, as I understand it, are not an "Erefian"? Or are you a "chatlanin", and the rest are "patsaks"? Okay, let's skip ... Already, quite a long time ago, everything has been explained and explained. Competently, and in accordance with the real situation. that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief has more info than you (no pathos).
      Quote: noncombant
      Nearby, to put it mildly, not friendly Turkey, next to Iran, a very specific partner.

      This is Geopolitics. There are other rules and regulations.
      Quote: noncombant
      Now you can pour slop and "run up" on Russia, even if the Russian troops are holier than the Pope. A noble excuse. Whatever Russia is doing in Syria now is an excuse. A pretext for conflict. Allowed to shoot down.

      But this is an information war. Scarecrows are its component. I wonder what could be the reaction of the Britons if the news appeared on the network — Shoigu allowed to shoot down British planes that are unfriendly and threaten the lives of Russian pilots?
      Quote: noncombant
      At the same time, just a day's drive from Moscow are the Russians of Donbass, who were left to die, under the pressure of "peace-loving" agreements.

      They quit dying!? 40 humcon convoys, each of which, on average, 1 thousand tons, is not help? Not to mention other help, which is not advertised (and it’s not about weapons) Obtaining Russian diplomas by Lugansk and Donetsk students (various universities), followed by employment, on more favorable terms, is this not help? We accept refugees, with obtaining citizenship in a matter of days, with a job, and getting housing, on more favorable conditions, is not help !?
      Quote: noncombant
      Hurray for Putin, hurray for the "cunning plan"

      Not funny. Of course, you would have ruined everything with three clicks of your fingers.
      Quote: noncombant
      The West is forcing international politics towards a third world war.

      Ah ... Suicides. Or do they (the West) believe that no one will crash nuclear weapons? Then also dumbasses.
      Quote: noncombant
      The largest planned victim of a new global redistribution of property and spheres of influence is the Russian Federation.

      Sometimes, the victim does not know that she is a “victim.” And she herself becomes a hunter.
      Quote: noncombant
      The state of the Russian Federation in no way impedes the West in the matter of its dismantling, but, on the contrary, helps it in every way. The policy of the Russian Federation in Novorossiya and the Donbass is a grandiose suicidal Betrayal of the Russians of Ukraine, and politics in Syria is a grandiose suicidal Madness, which will end in a war with the whole world of Islam.

      B .... I wonder who you borrowed this from?
    4. Altona
      Altona 11 October 2015 17: 05
      +4
      Quote: noncombant
      The West is forcing international politics towards a third world war. The largest planned victim of a new global redistribution of property and spheres of influence is the Russian Federation.

      ---------------------
      So do you want a third world war now? Well, as a last resort tomorrow ... So that no Russians at all become? In general, we must act methodically and carefully ... No one has leaked the Russians in the Donbass, the process is going on, albeit not too fast ... If we send our troops to the Donbass now, the consequences are unpredictable, the victims will be the same, plus the loss of image in the international arena ... No, let Ukraine fill its fill of independence, Ukrainians, Svidomo and dismantle itself and reboot as a state, or reintegrate into Russia, Poland, Hungary and Romania, as it was originally ...
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 11 October 2015 12: 57
    +7
    NATO pilots, including British pilots flying on Tornado fighters, given the right to attack Russian combat aircraft in the airspace of Iraq if there is a “threat to their lives”,

    But is it strictly forbidden for NATO pilots flying on other fighters? laughing For every western "Tornado" and other western "natural disasters", Russia has its own all-weather "climatic" deactivator. laughing
    1. lablizn
      lablizn 11 October 2015 16: 23
      +1
      But is it strictly forbidden for NATO pilots flying on other fighters?
      Bravo! Subtlely spotted!
    2. yastr
      yastr 12 October 2015 17: 56
      0
      :) Well, yes, they allowed to shoot down only on the Tornado and will fly only on F16 :))))
  • sl22277
    sl22277 11 October 2015 12: 58
    +5
    Of course stuffing. It is difficult to imagine if a Russian plane will be shot down by the British, or vice versa. And how it will be possible to define this very "Threat". It will already be War.
    1. Longmire
      Longmire 11 October 2015 18: 28
      -4
      let there be no war, they shot down in Egypt and shot down in Agan, and shot down in Korea, not to mention the Vetnam, so what? was there a war?
  • Mentor
    Mentor 11 October 2015 12: 58
    +4
    All NATO pilots need to learn the spell "ANASZASHO !!!" ... When ejecting from the cabins of the burning "Tornado", there will be something to shout on the air.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 October 2015 13: 00
    +1
    Don't believe it. The usual fake of a yellow rag. It is a pity that our people pay such attention at all. Real pilots, risking their lives every day and knowing what they have and where it is charged, without a direct order, and even three times confirmed, will not press the trigger. And risking your life in battles with "these nightmarish Russians" - is it computer shooters, or what? In such games, there will be no reboot, she died so died ...
  • Tujh
    Tujh 11 October 2015 13: 01
    +1
    Provocation of irresponsible politicians.
  • Kibl
    Kibl 11 October 2015 13: 02
    +4
    Yentot Cameron went with his mind at all, he that runs into a war, so the English ditch will not save him. There will be no "strange war" and Dunkirk, our people will beat this blot on the map and !!!
  • rom8726
    rom8726 11 October 2015 13: 03
    +3
    why are you minus the article? you minus the author
  • james
    james 11 October 2015 13: 04
    +3
    The whole history of England is a hellish mixture of a policy of provocations and hypocrisy, which they confirm once again.
  • Krsk
    Krsk 11 October 2015 13: 05
    0
    in the sense of attack? will a tornado attack su 30? I thought only Yapov have kamikaze. even wedges the reptiloid campaign. Indians on dryers EF 2000 with a score of 12: 0 broke and then a tornado, well, well ...
  • brasist
    brasist 11 October 2015 13: 05
    10
    Quote: Scandinavian
    The people confirmed information about the downed Mig 29 near Turkey? Or again stuffing be-be-ce? Or ours again classified?

    1. veksha50
      veksha50 11 October 2015 15: 04
      +2
      Well done Shary !!!

      I’m surprised all the time by the fact that he, not being a supporter of Russia and its population, often acts on its side ...

      Or is it just a coincidence: he is fighting against the bragging power and media of Urkaina, and the result is positive for Russia ???
      1. iConst
        iConst 11 October 2015 15: 10
        +2
        Quote: veksha50
        I’m surprised all the time by the fact that he, not being a supporter of Russia and its population, often acts on its side ...
        - Misconception. He is smart enough not to set up a Russian audience against himself, because it is on it that he does his business.

        Where and when did he speak on the side of Russia? I did not see, although I watched a lot of his videos.
        This person is marginal.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 11 October 2015 15: 22
          0
          Quote: iConst
          Where and when did he speak on the side of Russia?



          And I didn’t have enough time to read my second line below ???
          1. iConst
            iConst 11 October 2015 15: 56
            +3
            Quote: veksha50
            Quote: iConst
            Where and when did he speak on the side of Russia?



            And I didn’t have enough time to read my second line below ???
            - Well.
            Regarding the second line.
            First, the question is: what is this "positive result" for Russia? Can you explain?

            Now, regarding the thesis of the fight against non-worthy media.
            He allegedly It is fighting the raunchy Ukrainian media. And in fact?
            Or do you think that it is very watched in Ukraine? I don’t think so many. Most people will not watch what they do not like, which causes irritation, especially if it is also about you.

            The main audience is Russian.
            And here is an interesting point: a person looks, he likes this exposure of the opposite side - the Ukrainians, and most importantly - all in garlic: Pravda herself is a womb. One, another, ... tenth, ... fifty ... And man gets used to trust and automatically agrees in advance with what a trusted source will tell him. In addition, the weight (subjective certainty) of information becomes very large.

            So you swallowed this bait.

            And now - attention - this highly trusted source says - Ukrainian Crimea.
            It is clear that you do not agree, but subconsciously you will already be sowed with doubt. Even you yourself will not know about it - but this trick will be repeated (not often - so as not to frighten). Not necessarily about Crimea - everything is much finer.

            I don’t know if he consciously does this or not, but such a scheme is aimed at thinking and analyzing people in the slightest degree.
            The mature Maidan workers (I mean both sides: Ukrainian and Russian) are not his goal - they are easily suggestible and switchable. They will lick the poop if they are told that it is a lollipop, although it will look like Mr. and stink like Mr..

            Like this... smile
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 11 October 2015 22: 10
              0
              Quote: iConst
              Like this..



              Hmm ... Well, we won't talk about the manipulation of consciousness ... We have enough "manipulators" of our own in the box ...

              However, when he, being a stranger to Russia and even not like her, heresy confirms the facts Ukrainian authorities - agree that this is nice ...

              And, at least, you can even listen to him, unlike the different Yaresko, Vasiliev, etc.
  • Monos
    Monos 11 October 2015 13: 06
    +5
    ... or a Russian pilot may be mistakenly shot down


    Something I can hardly comprehend this phrase. What kind of "mistake" could this be if only ours and NATO members fly there? With whom they can confuse ours?

    But what if our ships from the Caspian flotilla are mistaken?
  • phantom
    phantom 11 October 2015 13: 08
    0
    IMPORTANT UPDATE
    The Daily Star is owned by Rupert Murdoch and specializes in celebrity material and rumors.
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 October 2015 13: 09
    0
    Mal bug, yes smelly. laughing

    It would be better to think about the return of 400% of the GDP of debts.
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 11 October 2015 13: 10
    +2
    1.
    NATO pilots, including British pilots flying on Tornado fighters, are given the right to attack Russian combat aircraft in Iraqi airspace if there is a “threat to their lives,” TASS reports in a London-based Daily Star Sunday newspaper citing their sources.


    2.
    “At the same time, pilots of the British Air Force were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at any cost,” the newspaper notes.


    Anglo-Saxons simply touched by their spontaneity. fool
    I wonder what instruction the English pilot will read first. winked I think if the former, then he will more likely have the latter. angry

    Somehow I think colleagues. hi
  • NordUral
    NordUral 11 October 2015 13: 10
    +1
    “When airplanes fly at supersonic speeds, it gets crowded very quickly in the airspace, for this reason a collision may occur, or a Russian pilot may be shot down by mistake,” one of the newspaper’s interlocutors said.
    You wanted to say that an English plane could be shot down? You must be careful when writing provocative statues.
  • S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 11 October 2015 13: 11
    +4
    "At the same time, British Air Force pilots were instructed to avoid contact with Russian fighters at all costs": then the catapult is the best way
  • novobranets
    novobranets 11 October 2015 13: 13
    +2
    NATO pilots, including British pilots flying on Tornado fighters, have the right to attack Russian combat aircraft in Iraqi airspace if there is a “threat to their lives”
    The real threat to their lives will be if they just try to rock the boat.
    But the bad news.
    The DNR authorities announced a sharp aggravation of the situation in the Donbass. Over the past day, the Ukrainian security forces violated the truce 13 times.
    This male goat, parashenko, again received orders to violate the agreement. How much land will he still wear.
  • bashkort
    bashkort 11 October 2015 13: 16
    +1
    As a response to the statement of their prime minister, the British pilots urgently shook their gadgets with tape — to avoid, so to speak. Conservatives come and go, but life is one ...
  • 2s1122
    2s1122 11 October 2015 13: 17
    +1
    But this NATO began to twist its fingers. In Iraq, there is a government that clearly said that it was good to participate in the HSC RF in the attack on the position of the igil. wassat
  • KnightRider
    KnightRider 11 October 2015 13: 17
    0
    There are no Russian combat aircraft in Iraq, only reconnaissance ones. So let the Angles not piss ... Bye
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 11 October 2015 13: 18
    +3
    So I understand that there is no longer any talk about ISIS in Syria after yesterday’s 64 sorties of Russian aircraft? Now in Iraq it is necessary to preserve bases, factories, arms depots and oil wells.?
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 11 October 2015 14: 16
      0
      Skoree vsego-tak i est ...
  • andrew075
    andrew075 11 October 2015 13: 19
    +1
    really want to fight?
  • 1goose3
    1goose3 11 October 2015 13: 21
    0
    Quote: rom8726
    why are you minus the article? you minus the author


    This is an informational article, and therefore the minuses are put negative information that the article contains. And the author of this information is an undetermined source of the Western publication, and not the fact that it is not fictional.
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 11 October 2015 13: 21
    0
    Do you need a tor or not? Better not get in the way
  • Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 11 October 2015 13: 21
    0
    Transit is still through Iraq, so you can expect a provocation. Anklanka spoils as always
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 11 October 2015 13: 25
    0
    This is how British scientists have found that British scientists are the smartest, found out that aliens can harm earthlings and then discovered a brain drain. smile
  • lablizn
    lablizn 11 October 2015 13: 25
    +3
    I do not like politicians, especially the "Western" spill, for duplicity, hypocrisy and hypocrisy.
    But how can one fail to recall one of the best (in the opinion of the British) "giant of Western thought", and possibly the "father of English democracy".
    Who didn’t guess, about whom I’ll explain. This, of course, is Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill.
    Yes, he was a cynic and a hypocrite, but he was not a fool, so his words and the English would be in the ears!
    And he once said this: "Russians may seem narrow-minded, impudent or even stupid people, but all that remains is to pray to those who stand in their way."
    And one more thing: "I cannot predict Russia's actions for you. It is a riddle wrapped in mystery and placed inside a puzzle; but perhaps there is a key. This key is Russian national interest."
    Comments, as they say, are superfluous!
    If we recall the words of another far from stupid Western politician from the country-antagonist of Great Britain and from the previous era - Otto Eduard Leopold von Bismarck-Schönhausen applied to relations with Russia, namely: “Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the decay of the main force Russia, which is based on millions of Russians ... These latter, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, rejoin each other just as quickly as particles of a cut piece of mercury ... ", then the thought comes to advise" hot heads "from England, Germany and indeed because of the "puddle":
    Lord! Get rid of your irrepressible itching in your head ... or anus. because the treatment for this itching is, to put it mildly, tight for the patient.
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 11 October 2015 19: 54
      0
      “Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main force of Russia, which is based on millions of Russians ... These latter, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, rejoin each other as quickly as particles of a cut piece of mercury ...

      Of course, such quotes warm the soul, but ... I’m very afraid that they got a ride with Ukraine. They remade there, it seems, the people from mercury to ha ... but ...
      1. iConst
        iConst 11 October 2015 20: 18
        0
        Quote: Jovanni
        Of course, such quotes warm the soul, but ... I’m very afraid that they got a ride with Ukraine. They remade there, it seems, the people from mercury to ha ... but ...
        -Well, God be with her, with Ukraine - we’ll figure it out somehow. The main thing is to set the task correctly.

        And the task, in fact, is formulated simply: to bring Ukraine out of the influence of the United States.

        If we consider the military confrontation between the United States and Russia, then, too, the problems of the United States are formulated simply: they will not start a ground operation from the word "never": world wars are one thing, Vietnam is another thing, when even such a police state was forced to reckon with the protests of its citizens.
        The government has failed to explain why the hell the American guys in the Gods of the Forgotten Jungle die.

        We must pay tribute - they learn from their mistakes. And in processing public opinion have achieved tremendous success.
        But someone said (ascribed to A. Lincoln): You can fool some all the time, you can fool everyone for a while, but you can’t fool everyone all the time.

        Europe is unlikely to go cannon fodder for the enticement of Americans.
        America itself will rely on a contactless war — missiles. But this should be guaranteed for them - i.e. 200% And if you do not give them such an opportunity - they will sit and cherish this dream forever.
  • raid14
    raid14 11 October 2015 13: 27
    0
    Even if we assume that in the skies of Syria or Iraq there will be a fight between Russian and NATO planes, we still will not know the whole truth about the incident. The data of combat and non-combat losses of the Russian group will still be classified, according to the law on state secrets and in order not to give reasons for speculation in Western and Russian "liberal" media.
  • sw6513
    sw6513 11 October 2015 13: 27
    0
    After such a statement, both pilots will bypass in order to avoid hassles. And they can provoke ..
  • ivanych
    ivanych 11 October 2015 13: 30
    +1
    ... rats ran in, they made a snake ball. Well, take a chance. The seeker, yes he will find.
  • DMB3000
    DMB3000 11 October 2015 13: 33
    0
    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: vovanpain
    Has Fashington decided to scare us with the help of his pet dog, England? Well, well, from the moment our operation began, my head is completely jammed, the return flow will fly.

    That's right! We have enough "calibers" for all their airfields wink

    we can do the same.
  • Starik72
    Starik72 11 October 2015 13: 34
    +2
    Just aglitskie zhurnazhlyuhi on Saturday drank viskar, you need to write, but with a hangover thoughts are confused! Here comes the contradiction, by all means avoid meetings and at the same time shoot down, for me it’s not clear how to run away to shoot down. Well, just Ah at the oak, oh ate !!!