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The Ministry of Finance declared war on destruction to Russia?

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The Ministry of Finance declared war on destruction to Russia?



The increase in tax burden may deprive oil companies of not the “surplus”, but the necessary investments.

A series of liberal measures that ruin the lives of citizens (the rejection of indexation of pensions, the removal of absurdly high overhaul fees, “optimization”, that is, the elimination of health care and education) are harmoniously complemented by undermining production. After joining the WTO on essentially colonial conditions, prohibitive credit appreciation, complicating bureaucratic procedures and squeezing government investments that hit the manufacturing industry, government officials took up the backbone of Russia: oil production.

The Ministry of Finance is insistently demanding a sharp increase in tax pressure on oil companies in order to seize their devaluation profits. It seems to be logical: the weakening of the ruble really increases the ruble export earnings, which are not related to the activities of companies and therefore can be interpreted as “unearned”.

However, the Ministry of Finance tactfully keeps silent about the fact that the more than twofold devaluation of the ruble was accompanied by more than twofold cheapening of oil - and, accordingly, the ruble gain from a depreciation in the best case only compensated for the fall in prices for it.

Moreover, a significant part of Russian oil is consumed domestically - and is sold accordingly for rubles: there is no devaluation gain here.

At the same time, thanks to the policy of Russian liberal reformers with regard to domestic production, oil companies are forced to buy huge amounts of equipment and materials abroad for foreign currency, and this import is necessary to preserve production. Therefore, the devaluation gain from exports is accompanied by a devaluation loss from forced purchases. And there are no hopes for the notorious import substitution, since the policy of the liberals towards the Russian manufacturer remains extremely destructive, as if copied from the 90-s.

In the style of the same 90-s, Russian liberals even before devaluation carried out a policy of demonetization of the economy, extremely tightening financial policy, increasing the cost and complicating domestic credit and thus forcing large business, including oil, to be credited abroad.

Now, oil companies have received a double blow: even those who have not fallen under the company's sanctions have de facto been able to get long-term loans in the West and refinance debts of previous years, respectively, and they have to be returned in the face of falling revenues due to cheaper oil. This significantly worsened their financial situation.

Under these conditions, a sharp and, what is fundamentally important, a sudden increase in the tax burden that is not provided for by production plans can deprive oil companies not of surplus, but of necessary, not super-profits, but depreciation and investment. As a result, the oil industry will be forced to reduce production investment and stop a number of promising projects, which will result in a fast and, moreover, increasing decline in oil production and a rapid decline in revenues of both the industry and the budget.

Having rejected not only the tax incentives for businesses that were natural during the crisis, but also the simple stability of its working conditions, the Ministry of Finance can easily slaughter the goose that lays the golden eggs and undermine the very basis of the current Russian economy.

It is fundamentally important that while the real beneficiary of the devaluation profit is the federal budget itself: the main part of the tax payments of oil companies is pegged to the dollar and automatically increases when the ruble falls. This is evidenced by the dynamics of budget revenues: in spite of the economic recession not envisaged in budgeting, it is not only fulfilled, but is also exceeded by income. As a result, the January – August deficit is 1,8 times less than budgeted - 2,1% GDP versus 3,7% GDP (the difference between plan and reality in the first eight months is at least 700 billion rubles).

Under these conditions, the substantive reasons for the permanent hysteria of the Ministry of Finance are simply incomprehensible: instead of a lack of money, which he desperately intimidates Russia and its leadership, there is a completely obvious surplus.

In the first eight months of 2015, unused balances in budget accounts increased by 1 trillion rubles. - up to 10,7 trillion! This means that for more than 10 months the budget may not collect revenue at all - and no one, except the accountants from the Treasury, will notice anything. With the money frozen in the budget, it is possible to build a second Russia, incomparably more modern, efficient and comfortable than the current one, but the Ministry of Finance does not even think of investing the money of Russian taxpayers for the good of Russia. On the contrary, he sends the bulk of these funds abroad, supporting the financial systems of Western countries that have unleashed a real economic war against us, probably in accordance with the “Dvorkovich maxim”, according to which Russia should pay for the financial stability of the United States. And the Bank of Russia is even better - instead of channeling funds for the development of its country (as the US Federal Reserve did, in particular, by financing the growth of the national debt), it invests them in the development of others, including the same US national debt!

It seems that the liberal Plyushkins, who extorted us by artificially created money hunger, quite consciously destroy our economy. Perhaps they simply hate the Russia they rule or are fighting against us on the side of the West.

Their motivation may be different and may require understanding of a psychiatrist, not an economist, but the result of their activities is beyond doubt: undermining the foundations of the Russian economy, the oil industry, threatening to collapse into uncontrollable chaos, even though the Ministry of Finance is literally drowning in money, literally words not knowing where to put them.

This situation represents a direct and obvious threat not only to state security, but also to the very existence of our country.
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  1. venaya
    venaya 12 October 2015 07: 12 New
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    It seems that the liberal Plyushkins, who extorted us by artificially created money hunger, quite consciously destroy our economy. Perhaps they simply hate the Russia they rule or are fighting against us on the side of the West.

    In the coffin they saw our Russia, it is not theirs, it is ours, they are simple things of the times. What to take from them.
    1. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 12 October 2015 07: 20 New
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      Maybe in this case, we will see these figures, if not in a coffin, even at least on physical labor in the fresh air?
      1. Passer
        Passer 12 October 2015 07: 53 New
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        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        Maybe in this case, we will see these figures, if not in a coffin, even at least on physical labor in the fresh air?

        This option is even better. Let them work it out, for them it is worse than death.
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 12 October 2015 10: 16 New
          -1
          the January – August deficit is 1,8 times smaller than the budgeted amount — 2,1% of GDP versus 3,7% of GDP (the difference between the plan and reality in the first eight months is at least 700 billion rubles).

          Reducing the budget deficit is far from its surplus. So moaning about the extra money is premature.
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 12 October 2015 08: 02 New
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        However, the Ministry of Finance tactfully keeps silent about the fact that the more than twofold devaluation of the ruble was accompanied by more than twofold cheapening of oil - and, accordingly, the ruble gain from a depreciation in the best case only compensated for the fall in prices for it.
        - from an article by M. Delyagin

        And who will be for the people, ordinary people, to compensate for their cheapened wages and pensions due to "more than two-fold devaluation of the ruble"?
        Our own, "Russian production", and half will not be, everything is brought from over the hill, for more than 2 times expensive dollar. And accordingly, prices for goods, including those of Russian production, have grown.
        And the fact that the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, and the Government are pursuing an anti-people policy of containing the development of the Russian economy and industry is blind only to the blind, and our government is represented by Putin and Medvedev.
        Just do not give examples of the defense industry, this is a forced measure to protect Russia's oligarchic rule from greedy Western and American "partners" who are trying to lay their hands on Russia's natural wealth.
        1. Xanna
          Xanna 12 October 2015 09: 06 New
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          Absolutely right, and as Siluanov said, there is no need to blackmail with a decrease in investment.
          The whole country has lost, and these oil workers have won in some places - let them share with the country.
          The bulk of our oligarchs is just the mining industry, and we don’t need fairy tales about how hard they live.
          1. Grbear
            Grbear 12 October 2015 09: 58 New
            +9
            Xanna
            Absolutely right, and as Siluanov said, there is no need to blackmail with a decrease in investment.
            The whole country has lost, and these oil workers have won in some places - let them share with the country.
            The bulk of our oligarchs is just the mining industry, and we don’t need fairy tales about how hard they live.


            It is correct that it is high time to "pinch" natural monopolies and bankers. Another question is why Delyagin stands up for oilmen? Why does he not say that the main problem is the usurious system of the Ministry of Finance - the Central Bank and that cash flows should be divided into commercial and state ones, and control over state money and punishment should be at the level of "plundering state property." Siluanov, not from a good life, climbed into the pocket of the oilmen. He understands that this cannot continue. But he was the protégé of the oligarchs and offered to share it with the oil industry, and they "bristled" at the Delyagins.

            And nobody will share flows, because our oligarchs and the cabinet have one source of financing - the budget, or rather, people's money. hi
            1. larand
              larand 13 October 2015 10: 32 New
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              Quote: GrBear

              It is correct that it is high time to "pinch" natural monopolies and bankers.


              This is correct from the point of view of the "common people". Only our opinion they pah and grind. He is a bourgeois in the states, in Germany, or in the Russian Federation - the main personal enrichment at the expense of the "common people". And this does not depend either on the branch of the bourgeois or on the nationality. Robbed, robbed and will rob. And so that the "common people" do not strongly resist, when they climb into their pockets, various bloody distracting events are organized. That's how we live.
          2. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 12 October 2015 12: 38 New
            +6
            An increase in the extraction tax will mean gasoline at 45-65 rubles per liter. How do you like this prospect?
            1. Conn
              Conn 12 October 2015 17: 45 New
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              Nonsense is complete, no more than 0,2-0,3%. From you expErD, how from Abamka the president!
              Delyagin jumps out of his pants, talking about the "poor" oil "pariots" !!
        2. Svetlana
          Svetlana 12 October 2015 10: 24 New
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          Quote: vladimirZ
          Just do not give examples of the defense industry, this is a forced measure to protect Russia's oligarchic rule from greedy Western and American "partners" who are trying to lay their hands on Russia's natural wealth.

          To a certain extent, you are right, but the thing is that the Western partners laid hands on our natural wealth even under Gorbachev and Yeltsin. And also on our industry, our gold reserves and other assets of the USSR. You want to say that the owners of Russian wealth are only ours, homegrown oligarchs? They threw, like a bone, only a small percentage of all the assets of the USSR that they surrendered, but this is already an infinite wealth for each individual oligarch. And across the country it is a little. The rest was in the hands of the global financial elite since the time of Gorbachev-Yeltsin. And since then, they no longer try to lay their hands on Russia's natural wealth, since they have already done so. Rather, the process of accumulating power is now under way in order to at some point be able to confront the West, even without having the soul that we had before the collapse of the USSR. It is almost impossible to do, but if we do not, we will cease to exist as a nation, as a state, as a Great Power, albeit not as great as before, but with great potential and with a claim to return to its former greatness.
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 12 October 2015 13: 29 New
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            Quote: Svetlana
            the thing is that Western partners laid hands on our natural wealth even under Gorbachev and Yeltsin
            Explain what do you mean?

            What kind of natural resources are these, and how did the West lay hands on them?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 12 October 2015 23: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Uncle Joe
              Explain what do you mean?

              Here is a friend explains
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 13 October 2015 01: 22 New
                +4
                Quote: Stroporez
                Here is a friend explains
                Comrade, in principle, correctly explains everything laughing
                However, above, contrary to the explanations of the comrade, again everyone is felled to the West.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 14 October 2015 02: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  However, above, contrary to the explanations of the comrade, again everyone is felled to the West.

                  they have eyes on the back of the head, and the mossx is fed directly from the durozomboscope request
        3. spiriolla-45
          spiriolla-45 12 October 2015 14: 51 New
          +2
          The worse, the better. You look with your own eyes we will see the great October, otherwise it’s only in the cinema and by the box.
      3. SSR
        SSR 12 October 2015 08: 34 New
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        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        Maybe in this case, we will see these figures, if not in a coffin, even at least on physical labor in the fresh air?

        One permanent "leader" of the Science City was transferred to the administration of the city of Krasno ****** and not even a year and a half has passed since the DRSU of the city of Krasno **** magically wins the "tender" of the science city located in 160 km from Krasno ***** !! Well, sure, everything is crystal clear!)))
        How did they get these greedy, flawed people.
      4. WKS
        WKS 12 October 2015 10: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        Maybe in this case, we will see these figures, if not in a coffin, even at least on physical labor in the fresh air?

        We will not see. The Kudrin affair lives and thrives, although he himself has been left behind, sort of ...
      5. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 12 October 2015 11: 35 New
        +2
        With a saw and an ax at a logging in the taiga, and sewing mittens. When this white-ribbon bastard disappears, when law enforcement agencies and
        real landings will begin. What does the country's leadership expect when the people take to the streets en masse, which is dangerous for both the ruling elite and the state. After all, the West and homegrown liberals will certainly take advantage of this situation for the collapse of Russia.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 October 2015 00: 22 New
          +1
          The easiest option is not even the nationalization of extractive industries, but
          confiscation of these industries in favor of the people!
      6. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 12 October 2015 12: 24 New
        +3
        Medvedev's stake, along with all the ministerial overcast. Previously, once, an objectionable people, the boyar was thrown from the Kremlin wall into the crowd. Putting blood on a ghoul, people contentedly went home. Lepota !!!
      7. gav6757
        gav6757 13 October 2015 00: 12 New
        0
        Totally agree!
        These liberals, from the economic bloc of the government, are loading the country. And why be surprised? These are nestlings of the Chubais-Kudrinsky nest! Look who does not believe where and under whom Nabiulina worked, under whom Ulyukaev, Siluanov worked!
        These are the people who do not want the good of Russia, these people work for "Uncle Sam" or their wallet!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 07: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: venaya
      In the coffin they saw our Russia

      Perhaps this is why your and your family’s wealth is very different from what it was in the late 90s.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 07: 41 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Perhaps this is why your and your family’s wealth is very different from what it was in the late 90s.

        Well, what are you really talking about? It is itself ...
        But in Nigeria it’s not itself, in Norway it’s not itself, but in Russia itself.
        1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
          Mihaylo Tishayshiy 12 October 2015 09: 46 New
          +8
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Perhaps this is why your and your family’s wealth is very different from what it was in the late 90s.

          It is no less different from the end of the 80s, then I went on vacation to Abkhazia, Sochi, and Crimea. Now, I can’t yet. And there is no groundless fear that, thanks to the leaders of our government and, at the end of the 20th century, I will not be able to.
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Well, what are you really talking about? It is itself ...
          But in Nigeria it’s not itself, in Norway it’s not itself, but in Russia itself.

          No, dear, not "self", but ourselves! And not because of the course pursued by our government, but in spite of it.
          So rightly Delyagin, Glazyev and others are sounding the alarm.
          Even if we talk about the defense industry, which is "supposedly" on the rise, then if it were not for our liberal financiers, then now there would be a question - not where to urgently get a gas turbine engine to complete the construction of frigates of the 22350 series, but which of the nuclear reactors to put on the seventh and the eighth aircraft carriers of the Russian Navy, because frigates and destroyers from their escort group are already under steam in the roadstead.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 18: 28 New
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            Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
            Now, I can’t yet. And there is no groundless fear that, thanks to the leaders of our government and, at the end of the 20th century, I will not be able to.

            Striking myopia. To sympathize with those who destroyed the USSR and scold those who restore Russia.

            Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
            No, dear, not "self", but ourselves! And not because of the course pursued by our government, but in spite of it.

            Yes, what are you saying? And in Ukraine, a civil war is also no different, how contrary to the government course is going on? Like the people of Ukraine wants to fight with themselves?

            Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
            Even if we talk about the defense industry, which is "supposedly" on the rise, then if it were not for our liberal financiers, then now there would be a question - not where to urgently get a gas turbine engine to complete the construction of frigates of the 22350 series, but which of the nuclear reactors to put on the seventh and the eighth aircraft carriers of the Russian Navy, because frigates and destroyers from their escort group are already under steam in the roadstead.

            For the collapse of the USSR, thank corrupt brainless communists. Would they not dismember the USSR, would you and aircraft carriers, and other things. Carriers, by the way, in Nikolaev built. And today it is a state hostile to us.
            1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
              Mihaylo Tishayshiy 14 October 2015 06: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Striking myopia. To sympathize with those who destroyed the USSR and scold those who restore Russia.

              This is whom I sympathize with? Gorbachev, Yeltsin or whom? Surname, please, if you are so knowledgeable about my likes and dislikes.
              But is it not Kudrintsin who is rebuilding Russia (Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Nabiullina and K)? So which of us is shortsighted?
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Yes, what are you saying? And in Ukraine, a civil war is also no different, how contrary to the government course is going on? Like the people of Ukraine wants to fight with themselves?

              Do you even understand what the conversation was about if you decided to break in? Generally speaking, it was about the prosperity of our families in different periods of our modern history, and "by itself" or not "by itself" it (wealth) fell on us. What you dragged the civil war in Ukraine is clear only to you.
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              For the collapse of the USSR, thank corrupt brainless communists. Would they not dismember the USSR, would you and aircraft carriers, and other things. Carriers, by the way, in Nikolaev built. And today it is a state hostile to us.

              Apparently the fact that this USSR was created, developed economically and made a powerful world power by those very "brainless" communists, do you not know?
              And it was destroyed by the "democrats" and "liberals" who had become communists. But, as soon as the USSR collapsed, they immediately showed themselves in all their glory, abandoning their membership cards and competing who would throw more shit at the communists. So you'd better keep quiet, especially since - where the aircraft carriers were built - I know perfectly well without you.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 14 October 2015 07: 18 New
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                Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
                This is whom I sympathize with? Gorbachev, Yeltsin or whom? Surname, please, if you are so knowledgeable about my likes and dislikes.
                But is it not Kudrintsin who is rebuilding Russia (Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Nabiullina and K)? So which of us is shortsighted?

                USSR collapsed the entire Communist Party.
                And Russia is reinstated by its leadership in which you live normally, but you gobble.

                Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
                Why you dragged the civil war in Ukraine is clear only to you.

                This is what we don’t understand. SAMO does not happen. Type in Ukraine, the people themselves went on the Maidan in which the United States only officially poured 5 billion ...

                Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
                Apparently the fact that this USSR was created, developed economically and made a powerful world power by those very "brainless" communists, do you not know?

                Only in the Civil War, the Communists killed more than ten million of our citizens, but you, as you know, insist that this is a great blessing.

                Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
                And it was destroyed by the "democrats" and "liberals" who had become communists.

                So it turns out that the communists are brainless, since they could not "dislodge" the corrupt ones who had worn around.

                Live further in the illusions imposed on you.

                PS Under tsars, Russia grew with lands and peoples. Only from 1897 to 1914 in Russia more than 49 million people were added.

                And in fact, the rule of the Communists ruined the sea of ​​people and the country is divided into 15 parts, 3 of which entered NATO against us, another started a war with us in 2008, and another is trying to draw us into the war today. And the population in post-Soviet Russia was dying out at a million a year. Such good communists.
                1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
                  Mihaylo Tishayshiy 14 October 2015 20: 42 New
                  0
                  I'll start with the tail.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  And the population in post-Soviet Russia was dying out at a million a year. Such good communists.

                  In post-Soviet Russia, there were no communists in power, therefore, you dangled the extinction of the Russian people during this period just like that, according to the principle of Washington propaganda.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Only from 1897 to 1914 in Russia more than 49 million people were added.

                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  The Communists in the Civil War alone killed more than ten million of our citizens

                  There is a lie, there is a blatant lie and there are statistics. But if you are so fond of digging into the statistics, then look at how much the country's population has increased from 1945 until the collapse of the USSR.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  This is what we don’t understand. SAMO does not happen. Type in Ukraine, the people themselves went on the Maidan in which the United States only officially poured 5 billion ...

                  I repeat once again, it was about the ADVANTAGE of our families! What matters is Ukraine here? Or are you hinting that I didn’t achieve the prosperity of my family myself, but only thanks to Kudrin and his heirs, and if not for them, then I would now wander around the world barefoot, belted with a rope?
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  So it turns out that the communists are brainless, since they could not "dislodge" the corrupt ones who had worn around.

                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  PS Under the tsars, Russia grew with lands and peoples.

                  For the fact that the communists were "brainless" they paid. I’m just ashamed to ask, where are the "brainy" tsars?
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  that the communists are brainless,

                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  but you, as usual, repeat

                  When I calculated how many times in the comments on this article (including polemics with other participants in this forum) you said the phrase:
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  destroyed the USSR in 1991, corrupt brainless communists

                  I realized that you are not "wound up", you are just "Perpetuum Mobile" ("perpetual motion machine")!
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  you live normally, but you go hungry.

                  This is what my greediness is expressed in? You, I see you like to be a little pokham. Well, be rude, so rude. Your "passionate love" for the communists reminded me of the late Novodvorskaya (don't be remembered by nightfall). Did you kiss her on the gums? Or maybe you got infected?
      2. BMW
        BMW 12 October 2015 09: 24 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Perhaps this is why your and your family’s wealth is very different from what it was in the late 90s.

        For me, for example, it’s not fundamentally different, but over the past five years it has been steadily deteriorating.
        And as for the "fat layer" in the face of paper shifters and push buttons, you can safely "cut out" every second one, and I assure you this will happen without any damage to the state and the economy. Only one big plus, because there will be domestic wipers, autumnizers and handymen.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 09: 36 New
          0
          Quote: bmw
          For me, for example, it’s not fundamentally different, but over the past five years it has been steadily deteriorating.

          I know a lady who worked in a barging firm in the 90s and had a completely non-acidic income, and today a lady washes the floor in a pharmacy ...

          Quote: bmw
          And as for the "fat layer" in the face of paper shifters and buttons

          Loafers divorced beyond measure.
          Everyone wants to receive, not earn. So it was in the USSR. By the way, this idea is not mine, it was expressed when I went to technical studies at the factory in the 80s.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 09: 51 New
          -9
          Quote: bmw
          For me, for example, it’s not fundamentally different, but over the past five years it has been steadily deteriorating.

          Well, yes, stealing has become much more difficult.
          1. BMW
            BMW 12 October 2015 11: 07 New
            10
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, yes, stealing has become much more difficult.

            But the blizzard is much easier to carry. What have you done in your life?
          2. Alexey M
            Alexey M 12 October 2015 11: 12 New
            +3
            Well, yes, stealing has become much more difficult.
            Is the competition big? laughing
          3. Alexey M
            Alexey M 12 October 2015 11: 16 New
            0
            Well, yes, stealing has become much more difficult.
            Is the competition big? laughing
    3. Georgy USSR
      Georgy USSR 12 October 2015 07: 44 New
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      It is necessary to make a progressive tax rate for individuals, and not for enterprises. What can I say if a simple hard worker at a refinery receives from 12 to 35 thousand rubles. and, starting with senior technological personnel from 70 to 90 thousand, the head of the installation from 120 to 180 thousand, engineers from 150 thousand to 1 lama. And this is only one production, for example, gas-catholic. And if you take factory engineering there, I can’t even imagine what the salary is, there is no exact data but I can say that the leading engineer of the BMW X5 car was bought for cash.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 09: 31 New
        -18
        Quote: George of the USSR
        It is necessary to make a progressive tax rate for individuals, and not for enterprises. What can I say if a simple hard worker at a refinery receives from 12 to 35 thousand rubles. and, starting with senior technological personnel from 70 to 90 thousand, the head of the installation from 120 to 180 thousand, engineers from 150 thousand to 1 lama. And this is only one production, for example, gas-catholic. And if you take factory engineering there, I can’t even imagine what the salary is, there is no exact data but I can say that the leading engineer of the BMW X5 car was bought for cash.

        GIVE AN EQUATION !!! We will return pensions of 132 rubles to pensioners of Russia !!! We will return engineers a salary of 160 rubles !!!
        1. Passer
          Passer 12 October 2015 13: 14 New
          +7
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          We will return pensions of 132 rubles to pensioners of Russia !!! We will return engineers a salary of 160 rubles !!!

          One could live on 132 Soviet rubles; on the current 6000, it is doubtful to survive.
          Do you think a modern engineer in production (not office plankton) has a much higher salary?
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 18: 01 New
            -5
            Quote: Passer
            One could live on 132 Soviet rubles; on the current 6000, it is doubtful to survive.

            “I remind you that in 1991 the corrupt brainless communists destroyed the USSR, tied the RUBLE to the DOLLAR, deprived our enterprises of work and financing ...

            Putin is forced to correct the consequences of this destruction. 

            Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
            And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

            Quote: Passer
            Do you think a modern engineer in production (not office plankton) has a much higher salary?

            This is all the CONSEQUENCES of the dismemberment of the USSR by corrupt brainless communists in 1991.

            Maybe it is not necessary to increase taxes, creating the poor, but to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
            Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/

            I believe that for individuals in general taxes should be abolished.
            1. Alf
              Alf 12 October 2015 19: 05 New
              +5
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              and nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.

              But at the same time and change the ideology of the state with a lack of social justice.
              But for this we must act according to plan in the photo.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 06: 07 New
                -5
                Quote: Alf
                But at the same time and change the ideology of the state with a lack of social justice.

                That was already before 1991. But corrupt brainless communists dismembered the USSR and carried out an anti-socialist coup, changing the system to capitalism.

                Quote: Alf
                But for this we must act according to plan in the photo.

                "If capitalism could adapt production not to maximize profits, but to systematically improve the material conditions of the masses, if it could use profits not to satisfy the whims of parasitic classes, not to improve methods of exploitation, not to export capital, but for a systematic rise in the material situation of workers and peasants, “then an ideal consumer society would be created.

                To each peasant a yacht like Abramovich’s and his own plane (not counting apartments, cars, summer cottages on the Cote d'Azur and the house in Courchevel)? laughing
                1. Alf
                  Alf 13 October 2015 21: 54 New
                  +4
                  You, as usual, did not read everything to the end. Especially for you highlighted in green.
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 14 October 2015 07: 28 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Alf
                    You, as usual, did not read everything to the end. Especially for you highlighted in green.

                    You, as usual, do not see beyond your own nose. Destroy capitalism and
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    To each peasant a yacht like Abramovich’s and his own plane (not counting apartments, cars, summer cottages on the Cote d'Azur and the house in Courchevel)? laughing


                    You remind about the Aral? About the ruined virgin steppes? About the transformation of the same Volga into a series of annually flowering stagnant swamps with solitary fish? Oh yes, this is not a crisis in your understanding. In your understanding, a crisis is when there is no dough.

                    Not capitalism is to blame for crises, but human greed and stupidity, which have no borders.
            2. Passer
              Passer 12 October 2015 23: 08 New
              +5
              Sorry, I will not insert quotes - it is not convenient to do this from the phone.
              Firstly, if taxes on individuals are abolished, then the taxation of legal entities will have to be increased, and this will naturally affect the cost of any product for the end consumer, mainly the same individuals. Moreover, one can talk endlessly about the riddles of Russian pricing, its basic principle fits into two words: "prices are rising", regardless of the reasons.
              Secondly, please call a spade a spade. In your opinion, the country was "merged" in 1991 by "brainless corrupt communists"? Didn't know, thanks for opening your eyes. My parents were members of the Communist Party, my mother was an engineer in the design bureau, my father was a scraper driver. Now I know who to say "thank you" for the collapse of the Union and so on, and at the same time admit that I had "wrong" parents, and like Akhidzhakova, apologize to everyone? Is it like this?
              The country began to fall apart in 1985, the ruling elite of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, as it is now customary to call the "elite", many of whom, by 1991, had left the CPSU pathetically, tearing up their membership cards demonstratively.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 06: 27 New
                -2
                Quote: Passer
                First, if you cancel taxes on individuals,

                No, In this case, the resources instead of taxes will go from nationalized -
                banking system, starting with the Central Bank, mineral resources and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. The state’s monopoly on foreign trade, the prohibition of the free movement of capital across the border.

                Quote: Passer
                In your opinion, the country was "merged" in 1991 by "brainless, corrupt communists"? Didn't know, thanks for opening your eyes. My parents were members of the Communist Party, my mother was an engineer in the design bureau, my father was a scraper driver. Now I know who to say "thank you" for the collapse of the Union and so on, and at the same time admit that I had "wrong" parents, and like Akhidzhakova, apologize to everyone? Is it like this?

                Apparently, incorruptible smart and determined communists were not there if the USSR was destroyed.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 12 October 2015 09: 52 New
        0
        Workers have always received little, who has higher qualifications and will receive more.
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        2. gjv
          gjv 12 October 2015 10: 13 New
          +5
          Quote: Vadim237
          those with higher qualifications will receive more.

          In 1955, the Scientific Research Institute of Labor was created in the USSR. The practical results of the activity — how to scientifically cut the wages of skilled workers — were widely and universally implemented. One of the results is the Novocherkassk execution.
          Today we need to cut back salary "effective" managers. Oil and gas monster companies are a good example. Top management's monthly income exceeds 10 million rubles. 40-45 times higher than the salary of the President. From where the squeak - "There is nothing to invest" - and you need to take investment. There are no reasonable grounds for the top management's monthly income to exceed 4-8 million rubles. All that is from above, obvious overfilling, the crackle of insolent mugs.
          1. venaya
            venaya 12 October 2015 10: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: gjv
            Quote: Vadim237
            those with higher qualifications will receive more.

            In 1955, the Scientific Research Institute of Labor was created in the USSR. The practical results of the activity — how to scientifically cut the wages of skilled workers — were widely and universally implemented. One of the results is the Novocherkassk execution. ...

            As for the execution, Mikoyan worked there, internal Central Committee-shnye showdown. But on the subject of "how to scientifically cut the wages of skilled workers" - here I agree, this Trotskyist Khrushchev has done a business, Mama do not cry. It was with him that the real collapse of the economy and the country began, respectively.
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 18: 41 New
            -2
            Quote: gjv
            Today it is necessary to cut the salaries of "effective" managers. Oil and gas monster companies are a good example. Top management's monthly income exceeds 10 million rubles.

            Today it is necessary not to cut back, but to nationalize the privatized banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
            Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/

            Then you don’t have to cut back. There is the same Lukoil, let it extract and process oil for the state and the whole people. Extraction, processing - get at the agreed cost for extraction and processing.
        3. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 06: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          Workers have always received little, who has higher qualifications and will receive more.

          It’s not a matter of qualifications, but of requests. With material inquiries, they, inquiries, will grow indefinitely as material wealth increases.

          One problem - there are not enough resources on the planet.
    4. varov14
      varov14 12 October 2015 09: 58 New
      10
      The strangest thing is Putin’s position, again he confessed his love for liberalism, alright if it’s true. There is a clear, uncoordinated foreign and domestic policy. On the one hand, the support of Syria, and blessed by our power liberals, on the other, the internal economic decline, seems to be bred like a lo.ha. Perhaps they found a chance to throw it off.
      1. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 12 October 2015 13: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: varov14
        There is a clear, uncoordinated foreign and domestic policy.
        Where did you see the inconsistency?

        Both there and there, upholding the interests of large, primarily raw materials, capital - simply in different conditions, and, as a result, by different methods.
        1. venaya
          venaya 12 October 2015 16: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Uncle Joe
          ... Both there and there upholding the interests of large, primarily raw materials, capital - simply in different conditions, and, as a result, by different methods.

          The most dangerous for us in this case is raw material capital, it is he who is able to destroy all types of industry, at least agricultural, at least production. The biggest nuisance is that this capital is almost exclusively owned by the media, and is dangerous because it changes people's minds, after which the entire production sphere can collapse completely.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 06: 48 New
            0
            Quote: venaya
            The most dangerous for us in this case is raw material capital,

            Putin said, reviving the military-industrial complex. wink
    5. spiriolla-45
      spiriolla-45 12 October 2015 14: 48 New
      +1
      But what about our ALL Vladimir? Everyone began to pray for him, is he also a temporary worker, a simple hired clerk? And indeed what to take from a liberal, he is always shedding time abroad.
  2. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 07: 14 New
    -1
    Right! Putin has amazed ... Oh, to me, these iksperdy loafers. These type-patriots harm Russia no less than liberals.
    1. venaya
      venaya 12 October 2015 08: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      Right! Putin has amazed ... Oh, to me, these iksperdy loafers. These type-patriots harm Russia no less than liberals.

      Putin does only his part of the job, but what about the rest? Not a single bright personality, at least by ear. It turns out one person is responsible for everything, and the rest are irresponsible. Something like this.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 09: 22 New
        -7
        Quote: venaya
        Putin does only his part of the job, but what about the rest?

        "Putinvsyoslil" is a household word, just like "onizhedeti". Meanwhile, Russia acquired the status of a Superpower. While more military. While.
        And all because Russia is ruled not by "delyagins" and other "clever men", but by ordinary corrupt officials and other compradors?
        1. BMW
          BMW 12 October 2015 09: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          And all because Russia is governed by ...., and the freelance corrupt officials and other compradors?

          This is generally pearl. Those. Do you acknowledge that the country is governed by proteges of foreign capital, and those who sold them?
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 18: 14 New
            -2
            Quote: bmw
            Those. Do you acknowledge that the country is governed by proteges of foreign capital, and those who sold them?

            Of course not. If this were so, then now Russia in its present form simply would not exist. There wouldn’t be yards clogged with cars, there wouldn’t be a new cosmodrome, GLONASS, a new payment system, you couldn’t count everything.

            Well, find me a country that has been developing equally successfully all these 15 years? smile

            The West is in debt, China is in crisis ...
            1. Douglas
              Douglas 13 October 2015 00: 26 New
              +1
              RUSSIA HAVING such wealth could develop even steeper than adding 2–3% of GDP per year. Now Putin is showing that professionals are working in the power bloc. The war in Georgia, the capture of Crimea without a single shot, the war in the DONBASS are PERFECTLY DESIGNED MILITARY OPERATIONS, now Syria and here I just admire the PUTIN power bloc. Just handsome Volodya keep it up.

              But here is the economic block of the country, I apologize for the expression, just a dol ..... that you had to shoot, and hang five times, and then give three more life sentences. So ruin and plunder the country am Just no words.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 06: 52 New
                0
                Quote: Douglas
                RUSSIA HAVING such wealth could develop even steeper than adding 2–3% of GDP per year.

                Yes Yes Yes. Especially, there is one aka spherical horse in a vacuum.
                Take the trouble to study the docs http://cont.ws/post/83032
                Or this one http://fritzmorgen.livejournal.com/818247.html
                Although 99% sure that you will not do it.
            2. BMW
              BMW 13 October 2015 03: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Well, find me a country that has been developing equally successfully all these 15 years?

              Are you fooling around or mocking. What is the development? We have systemic stagnation, and the little that they are trying to do just falls into the bud by the minions of the liberal course. I suppose these are just show-offs so that people don't neck them.
              As for China, it’s just the result of a global systemic crisis, and they will pass through it without much loss.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 07: 00 New
                -3
                Quote: bmw
                We have systemic stagnation, and the little that they are trying to do just falls into the bud by the minions of the liberal course.

                And so?
                http://www.awarablogs.com/ru/study-on-real-gdp-growth-net-of-debt/



                Quote: bmw
                As for China, it’s just the result of a global systemic crisis, and they will pass through it without much loss.

                May God give our calf a wolf to eat ...

                And I repeat the question to which you did not answer. wink
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Well, find me a country that has been developing equally successfully all these 15 years? smile
        2. venaya
          venaya 12 October 2015 09: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          ... Russia is ruled not by "delyagins" and other "clever men", but by ordinary corruptionists and other compradors?

          Personally, I have a neutral attitude to Delyagin: let him say, maybe what useful thought he has and will slip through from him, that's not the point. The only question is how quickly and safely get out of what you got yourself into. And Delyagin is here as a background, he can convey someone else's idea and confuse his own, it is not important, it is important to put the question correctly. The fact that you are talking about "supernumerary corrupt officials", so I'm not too crazy about them, and how, in other countries, too, not very much with this, it is important that they also think about the country. But as for the "compradors" - this is a really dangerous phenomenon, it clearly needs an eye and an eye. I hope you agree with me.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 18: 20 New
            0
            Quote: venaya
            it’s important that they also think about the country.

            Won in Luxembourg think.
            Quote: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2079rank.h

            tml? countryName = Luxembourg & countryCode = lu®ionCode = eur & rank = 11 # lu

            7 Luxembourg $ 2,935,000,000,000 31 December 2012 est.


            Quote: venaya
            But as for the "compradors" - this is a really dangerous phenomenon, it clearly needs an eye and an eye. I hope you agree with me.

            I agree. Need an eye yes an eye. Therefore, it is unacceptable in the elections to vote for prokhorovyh and other oligarchs, as well as for the Yabloko.
        3. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 12 October 2015 16: 56 New
          +3
          Russia acquired the status of a superpower

          Is this Irada Zeynalova on Channel 1 reported? lol
          They can’t deal with the obsolete Ukraine, 2 years, everyone spreads, superpower b **.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 07: 19 New
            0
            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            They can’t deal with the obsolete Ukraine,

            That is, you now insulted 40 million residents of Ukraine. yes

            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            all creep, superpower b **.

            Can you tell me against whom NATO is expanding? wink
    2. Passer
      Passer 12 October 2015 13: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      Oh, I get these icksperd loafers.

      However. Explain then the significant amount of your comments made during working hours.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 07: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Passer
        Explain then the significant amount of your comments made during working hours.

        Have you thought about retirement? wink
        But you have to consider all the options. laughing

        PS And interestingly, pensions are regularly indexed. tongue
  3. Yukon
    Yukon 12 October 2015 07: 16 New
    15
    And the liberals cry that he was 37 years old. It turns out that it needs to be repeated from time to time to improve the country.
  4. Dimsanych
    Dimsanych 12 October 2015 07: 17 New
    +2
    And what, only ordinary people suffer and small businesses ?!
    Let them share, they have something to share. Housing and communal services is growing, taxes are growing, fuel is growing, everything is growing, the dollar is growing. Let it grow there, you don’t need to relax at all.
  5. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 12 October 2015 07: 17 New
    +3
    This situation represents a direct and obvious threat not only to state security, but also to the very existence of our country.

    And Vaska listens, and eats, for the Ministry of Finance similar articles about peas, it has long been clear to everyone that the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank are in the hands of Russia's enemies, the goal of which is the complete destruction of a single state, and forgot to add our beloved government here.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 October 2015 07: 18 New
    +4
    The head of the Ministry of Finance with us is like a village fool. What does not offer - everything is not in the box. But where to get literate? At the HSE? So this is a hotbed of liberalism and anti-patriotism.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 07: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The head of the Ministry of Finance with us is like a village fool. What does not offer - everything is not in the way

      It’s necessary to set you the head wink
      1. venaya
        venaya 12 October 2015 08: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The head of the Ministry of Finance with us is like a village fool. What does not offer - everything is not in the way

        It’s necessary to set you the head wink

        Will not live long. sad
      2. BMW
        BMW 12 October 2015 09: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s necessary to set you the head

        I am for. It will not be worse in any case, but it will turn out.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 October 2015 09: 52 New
          -2
          Quote: bmw
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          It’s necessary to set you the head

          I am for. It will not be worse in any case, but it will turn out.

          Go to Ukraine, ride there.
          1. BMW
            BMW 12 October 2015 11: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Go to Ukraine, ride there.

            Go there, go here. The most powerful argument - to send to a distant camping trip?
  7. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 12 October 2015 07: 21 New
    +6
    Investments where? In our country, oil companies direct investments only in the rise in price of gasoline ... and in dividends and their salaries.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 October 2015 10: 00 New
      0
      In general, they, like all businessmen, are aimed at the maximum benefit from the production of petroleum products, and this is causing a rise in price - new equipment is not cheap. The Ministry of Finance plans to receive from the oil industry additional taxes to the treasury from 700 to 1 trillion rubles, so the game is worth the candle, and the oil industry will certainly not be left without investments.
      1. 27091965
        27091965 12 October 2015 10: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        so the game is worth the candle, and the oil industry will definitely not be left without investments.


        After leaving for a civilian, he went to work in the oil industry. I have been working for 15 years. Now there is no concept of industrial investment, just a beautiful name. For a year, money is allocated for all types of planned works (they are allocated not by the state, but by the head company, all transfers go there) and if you could not meet the budget, this is your headache. The equipment is practically all Russian-made, and it is not often purchased. Bulk purchases of imported equipment stopped about 10 years ago.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 12 October 2015 14: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: 27091965i
          The equipment is practically all Russian-made, and it is not often purchased. Bulk purchases of imported equipment stopped about 10 years ago.
          17.10.2014/14/XNUMX The Ministry of Industry and Trade together with the Ministry of Energy prepared a list of measures for import substitution in the oil industry, RBC reports citing a copy of the document. The official said that the program was submitted to the government on Tuesday, October XNUMX.
          Given the hidden imports in the provision of services by Russian "daughters" of foreign companies the share of imported equipment and technologies reaches 80%, and for individual projects may exceed 90%said in the document.
          http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2014/10/17/dolya-importnogo-oborudovan
          iya-i-tehnologij-v-neftyanoj

          June 4, 2015 The share of imported equipment in the oil industry will be reduced to 43%
          http://www.regnum.ru/news/1930691.html
          1. 27091965
            27091965 12 October 2015 16: 06 New
            0
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            17.10.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX The Ministry of Industry and Trade together with the Ministry of Energy prepared a list of measures for import substitution in the oil industry,


            Excerpts from this article on RBC.

            “At the end of September, representatives of the Ministry of Energy quoted directly opposite data. So, according to Deputy Energy Minister Kirill Molodtsov, “the bulk of the technology has Russian counterparts in one way or another,” and Russian equipment is used for 80% in developing hard-to-recover reserves. ”

            “EU and US sanctions prohibiting the supply to Russia of equipment and technologies for Arctic, offshore and shale projects, in fact, threaten production at traditional deposits, follows from the list. “The implementation of the document developed by the Council of the EU can have a negative impact on the development of“ mature ”fields,” the Ministry of Industry and Trade said in a document. ”

            “Over time, due to the need to update and repair equipment, and to drill new wells, the risks of decreasing production and shortening the life of a number of fields will increase, they fear officials. "

            I’m interested in these officials at least once been at the field and do they know what equipment is mainly used there? Under such a conclusion, it’s good to beg for money.
  8. Signaller
    Signaller 12 October 2015 07: 30 New
    12
    Yes, the Audit Office, it seems like on Friday I made a report, I saw it on TV. The budget of the Russian Federation is 46% executed. The remaining money has not yet been distributed. Conclusion of the Accounts Chamber - the government does not want to work.A you say the Ministry of Finance ... There are such ministries a wagon and a small cart. And almost everyone is engaged in shifting pieces of paper and writing programs that no one is executing. Personally, I think that it's time, it's time to do something with the government. It just won’t resolve.
  9. Signaller
    Signaller 12 October 2015 07: 37 New
    +6
    Yes, I wanted to add. Here on the "Free Press" there is an article "Glazyev calls fire on himself", about his report at the Moscow Economic Forum. Summary in a nutshell - Our Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are conducting subversive work against the state. The Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance will engage in direct raskovishchestvo. And at this time the industry suffers from a lack of money, and it is clear that pepper is not producing anything. Read it, very interesting.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 12 October 2015 07: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: Signaller
      Here on the Free Press

      There is no "free" press.

      «Today in America there is no such thing as an independent press. You know that, and I know that! None of you dare to write what you think. And if he dares, then knowing in advance that this will not get into print.
      I get paid to keep my mouth shut. You get paid for the same. And any of you who are so stupid that they write an honest article will be thrown out into the street. If I decided to publish my honest opinion, I would be left without work at 24 o’clock. The work of journalists is to destroy the truth; creep, pervert, denigrate; to fawn before Mammon and sell his country and his race for daily bread! You know this, and I know this, so what nonsense is this - raising a toast to an independent press? We are the tools and servants of wealthy people behind the scenes. We are puppets; they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, abilities and lives belong to them. We are intellectual forgiven. Ducks! ”
      1880, John "Dean of Journalism" Swinton,
      New York Times editorial staff (1860-1870),
      New York Sun editorial staff, publisher of his own newspaper.
  10. Stinger
    Stinger 12 October 2015 07: 59 New
    +3
    If they had come forward 8 years ago with a proposal to ban the export of oil, and export only finished gasoline, kerosene, solarium, and petrochemicals, I would gladly support them. But an accountant also thinks in accounting. It is treated only surgically.
  11. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 12 October 2015 08: 26 New
    -2
    Autumn enters into its rights in it -
    We are sad from the nostalgia that has not survived.
    We care for her withered foliage
    How expensive are the days of youth forgotten.

    And it's hard for us to part with it sometimes
    And in the fall, under mortal frustrations,
    Sometimes we get sick with autumn blues
    In order to change former views in fate.

    Valentin Valevsky
  12. Riv
    Riv 12 October 2015 08: 28 New
    +6
    Oilman going to impose additional taxes? Wonderful. Why not yesterday? Let not the crude oil be driven over the hill, but the processed products. Oil refineries are certainly not cheap, but there is nothing fantastically complicated there. It’s possible to launch a plant every year, there would be a desire.
  13. gukoyan
    gukoyan 12 October 2015 08: 54 New
    +3
    Take shake those who have stolen and continue to steal, that’s the denyushka needed.
  14. K-50
    K-50 12 October 2015 09: 02 New
    +3
    At the tops of all companies it is necessary to put an upper limit on salaries, as well as among deputies.
    How much money will be saved? Billions!
    Those who do not agree will be felled at Kolyma, as it was under Stalin!
    Fatten with impudent snouts on national well-being and some rights still pump. They have no rights, there are only duties in such positions and salaries. Until they bring things in order, Russia will not see normal development, grabbers will not give! am
  15. N-SKiy
    N-SKiy 12 October 2015 09: 10 New
    +3
    All this liberal chernukha is already on the verge of sore mouth, and things are still there. The United Russia party are standing against the wall, apparently you need to vote for the commie.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 12 October 2015 10: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: N-SKiy
      The United Russia party are standing against the wall, apparently you need to vote for the commie.

      Those who now lead the Communist Party are no better than United Russia, only with the old signboard. There is no use from them. Ideological communists were either destroyed or hid out of harm's way until better times. I hope that soon we will see a real force capable of radically changing the economic and political situation in the country. So far, only individual voices are being heard, but they can turn into a strong chorus if the people finally wake up from the fog of Western propaganda like: "Thanks to capitalism for our rich and well-fed life, there is nowhere to put cars in every yard", etc.
      1. BMW
        BMW 12 October 2015 11: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Svetlana
        Those who now lead the Communist Party are no better than United Russia, only with an old sign. There is no sense from them.

        In principle, I agree, but now I don’t care about fat. In the elections it is necessary to ride the EP with a bang, the main thing is not to go to extremes, and the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party in principle are acceptable. And we will find a leader, there are many normal people.
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 12 October 2015 12: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: bmw
          In the elections it is necessary to ride EP with a bang

          Would you drink honey with your mouth! The people almost no longer vote for them, but they still miraculously win elections with results of 120-130% of the total number of voters. At polling stations or people far from mathematics, they don’t have much time or time to even bring the number of all voters to 100%. Rather, both.
          1. BMW
            BMW 12 October 2015 12: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Svetlana
            The people almost no longer vote for them, but they still won miraculously

            So it is necessary to ensure 100% turnout, and then we will drive EP.
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 12 October 2015 12: 37 New
            0
            won miraculously
            But still it's time. vote against, even if you are against the Communists, it is better for them than not to change anything at all.
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 12 October 2015 13: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: Gardamir
              But still it's time. vote against, even if you are against the Communists, it is better for them than not to change anything at all.

              Of course, I am not against the Communists. Only their ranks need to be cleaned properly so that they do not pursue their own interests first, but the interests of the people and begin to show initiative not by putting forward small demands, but key ones that can change the situation in the country. For some reason, the initiative to abolish the Yeltsin constitution did not come from the Communist Party, but why? What is she afraid of and who is she waiting for? Zyuganov’s gut is thin for such initiatives, and without them nothing will change.
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 07: 28 New
      -1
      Quote: N-SKiy
      apparently you need to vote for the commie.

      Vote, they have rich experience in the destruction of our country. that they perfectly demonstrated TWICE in the last century. fool
  16. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 12 October 2015 09: 27 New
    +4
    With the "oil industry" and other raw materials "branches" of our economy, which drive raw materials abroad, it was long ago necessary to understand. The fact is that the state still does not know how much, in fact, it is exported "abroad". Seriously doesn't know. Back in the 90s, the oligarchs "pushed through" a law according to which the state does not have the right to get into the reports of exporting companies and check how much they have exported raw materials-companies like, they themselves must provide "reports" on the amount of exports and imports, and even then .. . on demand. They didn’t ask, they didn’t show them, they "drove" so many raw materials abroad that they became billionaires in a year. Then, however, they adopted the rule of "annual reporting", but even then the companies themselves provide data on how much they sold per year and what. And do you think they provide true data? I strongly doubt it, since practically all companies and "kompashki" here, in Russia, conduct double-entry bookkeeping, and why are "monopolists" worse? The fact that much more is exported than is "reported" sometimes "pops up" - recently, information from our Western "partners" flashed in the press (and quickly faded out) that their data on the export of raw materials from Russia differ from data of "Rosstat" by 30-50 percent, and for certain types of exported products as much as twice! So, it is necessary to "screw up" the snickering raw material "monopolists" for a long time, and still it is necessary to establish order with state control over the export of raw materials and finances from the country. Well, as for the "people" ... no one noticed that over the past two years, lobbyists have quietly "extended" such amendments to the "labor code", which virtually eliminated all "labor law" in Russia and put the entire the working people are completely dependent on the "employer". Starting next year, the concept of "permanent employment" will disappear in Russia altogether, everyone will be transferred to a "contract basis", and all the conditions of employment will be determined by the "employer". At the same time, the so-called "semi-annual" contracts are also allowed, according to which the employer is not obliged to provide employees with either vacation or "keep" a place for him in case of "sick leave", etc. severance pay .... "Unhappy" commodity monopolists, you say, now, will "suffer" greatly .... well, well.
  17. slizhov
    slizhov 12 October 2015 09: 33 New
    +1
    Steal billions ...
    But Medvedev decided not to compensate for the magnitude of inflation for those who plug holes when they are retired with positions that allow them to earn no more than 10-15 thousand.
    First, Kudrin fed the US economy, and then it turned out that
    we need to develop our own agriculture ...
    that it’s more expedient to fish ourselves and eat fish, and not from a hostile Norway to us ...
    what is more correct to produce your own medicines, rather than feed the snickering West ...
    Now Nabiullina has been encouraged by the United States with a high title for managing rubles and green ...
    Now Medvedev, allowing to plunder the state budget, fights taxes from citizens who have 3 hundred parts or 6 ...
    Now - a new phenomenon - To take away the supplement of 12% inflation from those who, wanting to feed themselves, work in libraries, museums, medical institutions, kindergartens, etc.
    AGAIN SHOULD INTERVENT PUTIN ???
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 12 October 2015 09: 45 New
      +4
      It's time for the people to wake up and express their attitude to the liberals in power in the elections.
      1. BMW
        BMW 12 October 2015 10: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: NordUral
        It's time for the people to wake up and express their attitude to the liberals in power in the elections.

        It is high time. I believe that all points over I have already been placed, the government itself has called liberal and is not going to change.
      2. Alf
        Alf 12 October 2015 19: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: NordUral
        It's time for the people to wake up and express their attitude to the liberals in power in the elections.

        They don’t like to talk about this in the media, but a couple of years ago, EP introduced an election law, according to which both people without a fixed residence (i.e. homeless people) and immigrants, i.e. black people, have the right to vote. Thus, no matter how many Russian citizens come to the polls, the EP has an inexhaustible source of help.
    2. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 12 October 2015 14: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: slizhov
      AGAIN SHOULD INTERVENT PUTIN ???
      Are you talking about Putin, who, as president, determines the main directions of politics, proposes and approves the prime minister and the head of the Central Bank, appoints and removes deputies of the prime minister and federal ministers?

      About that Putin, without whose approval at least 11 years out of the past 15 years, neither Medvedev, nor Kudrin, nor Nabiullina can step forward?

      About Putin, who, as prime minister, was doing exactly the same thing as Medvedev now?
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 07: 31 New
        -3
        About that Putin.
        “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
        And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi
  18. bsk_mna54
    bsk_mna54 12 October 2015 09: 34 New
    +5
    I did not find anything new in this article. Modern leaders of the country are not able to develop. Medvedev travels around the country with elections to United Russia so that there is openwork, a lot of verbiage on the rapid development of the country, it’s his karma to call for all sorts of innovations, and who will do it, he doesn’t know.
  19. NordUral
    NordUral 12 October 2015 09: 37 New
    +4
    It seems that the liberal Plyushkins, who extorted us by artificially created money hunger, quite consciously destroy our economy. Perhaps they simply hate the Russia they rule or are fighting against us on the side of the West.
    I won’t talk about the situation with the oil and gas sector, it’s a delicate matter. But with industry there is a complete seam, no matter how Medvedev and K sang about the future prosperity.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 October 2015 10: 03 New
      -7
      With an industry full of seams - it's vryatli, there are problems, but they are temporary.
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 12 October 2015 10: 34 New
        +9
        Quote: Vadim237
        there are problems, but they are temporary.

        During the reign of Putin and Co.
      2. BMW
        BMW 12 October 2015 10: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        they are temporary.

        In the defense industry, yes, more or less, but otherwise full of seams.
  20. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 12 October 2015 09: 42 New
    +5
    When I read articles about our "native" economic bloc - I want to take a large-caliber machine gun and blow their ugly bodies and filthy heads to shreds.
    1. gascon
      gascon 12 October 2015 10: 57 New
      +2
      I fully support you, I’m ready to join the coalition !!!
    2. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 12 October 2015 14: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Volzhanin
      When I read articles about our "native" economic bloc - I want to take a large-caliber machine gun and blow their ugly bodies and filthy heads to shreds.
      With the one who created this blog, you don’t want to do the same? smile
  21. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 12 October 2015 10: 06 New
    -3
    Maybe this is a hint at the war, but you suggest eating it or investing. Maybe the plan is already near the war? And it costs a lot of money. Maybe the availability of a reserve sufficient to conduct a full-scale war is a chance to get what we want without fighting directly?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 12 October 2015 10: 39 New
      +7
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      Maybe this is a nychek for war

      Or maybe this is the incompetence of "Putin's Commissars"?
  22. dengy12
    dengy12 12 October 2015 10: 39 New
    +1
    it's time for the Central Bank to nationalize support in this GCD
    collection of signatures for referendum http://refnod.ru/
    We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

    2 required articles:

    - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of universally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws (ban on the external management of Russia).

    - The abolition of Article 13, Part 2, the ban on ideology (without ideology, the country has no goal, no national idea).

    2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

    - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

    - The abolition of Article 75, Part 2, on the independence of the Central Bank (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 12 October 2015 14: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: dengy12
      it's time for the Central Bank to nationalize support in this GCD
      In order to nationalize it, it must first be privatized, and in this I personally am not going to support anyone.

      - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of generally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws
      In order to cancel such a priority, it must first be introduced in part 4 of article 15, removing the priority of the RF treaties from there, and in this I am not going to support anyone either.

      - Cancellation of article 13, part 2, the ban on ideology (without ideology, the country has no goal, national idea)
      Someone really wants to allow the ideology to be established as mandatory / state through the law (now through a popular referendum), despite the fact that the State Duma of the Russian Federation adopts laws, that is, the EP?

      2 articles, which also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, we will submit it to the referendum)
      About who has the right to initiate a referendum is clearly spelled out in the constitution, and there is no GCD. And this means that such proposals are populist demagogy.

      - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources)
      In accordance with the law on subsurface resources, all resources are owned by the state - there is nothing to nationalize.

      - Cancellation of Art. 75 part 2 on the independence of the Central Bank
      In order to abolish the independence of the Central Bank, this independence must first be given to him, and in this GCD I am not going to support either.


      And I have a question for you - who finances NPO NOD? Not Americans by accident?
      After all, only they benefit from the nonsense that NOD disseminates, headed by the director of the St. Petersburg branch of Channel 1, owned by the Federal Property Management Agency, Kovalchuk, and Abramovich.
  23. gascon
    gascon 12 October 2015 10: 55 New
    +2
    It’s time to change this rotten government, which will completely merge our economy a little bit, I recommend reading the Glazyev report !!!
  24. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 12 October 2015 11: 16 New
    +3
    Come on, the wolf cried to the ram, for the first time or something. The oil industry will simply shift these and any other taxes and deductions to end consumers. Now "experts" cry out loud, then they will raise the price of gasoline. Everything will be fine for them, corporate parties, caviar, withdrawal of money to offshore. We will pay for everything, as usual, and we all do not care.
  25. Magadan
    Magadan 12 October 2015 11: 28 New
    +1
    I never get tired of repeating: we need an article in the Criminal Code for wrecking. Many things, especially in the economy, cannot be called deliberate wrecking. The Westerners sect holds key posts in Russia. They have their own tusnyak, tentacles all over the country. They are afraid of a patriotic upsurge and therefore by all means show what will happen to those who dare to blather against their power. The guy got into prison only because he sprayed from a spray can at a concert of Judas Makarevich. At the same time, the daughter of the bureaucrat from Irkutsk crushed two girls and did not spend a day in prison! I’m silent about Vasilyev. May I sit in a couple of billion less than six months?
    But no matter what schemes these nits invented, whatever posts they occupy, I believe in our Victory. Throw them off necessarily. They will go and trample the zone. Well, or an ice ax a la Trotsky is waiting for them.
    We just need to realize the source of lawlessness in Russia. And very carefully, without global Maidan, to ensure that the same volunteers from the Donbass come to power, and not all jackals in the shoes of patriots, like the figures from EdRussni and other groundhogs.
  26. Wolka
    Wolka 12 October 2015 12: 07 New
    0
    Something behind international affairs in the GDP does not reach all of our Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance, but we should have already taken up a tight ...
  27. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 12 October 2015 13: 09 New
    +2
    Support for Golikovy budget reorientation.
    "It is clear that Russia is within the bounds of a tight budget, and it is necessary to choose what will serve as a priority - preserving the social obligations previously assumed by the state in full, or the possibility of giving up something and investing in infrastructure," said the Chairperson of the Accounts Chamber. She noted that "social benefits are easier" because they are understandable and "calculable" and are received by a certain number of people. However, other budget expenditures are not always clear, so the proposals to reduce social programs "raise reasonable questions among the people." "Of course, restrictions are inevitable, but they must always be explainable. We need a clear and transparent policy in all directions," Golikova said.


    The current state of affairs "is truly critical for" the Ministry of Economic Development and the Ministry of Finance, the chairman of the joint venture believes. According to her, they "assess the state of affairs based on objective indicators, and are well aware of the degree of responsibility for what is happening," while the other ministries and departments using federal resources, in her opinion, do not fully feel that "the alignment has radically changed."

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/news/2015/10/12/612366-golikova-trat-byudzhet
    nih-sredstv

    A change in the rules for calculating the average salary in the regions in 2016 allowed the government to reduce the appropriations for the remuneration of teachers, medical and social workers by a total of 34,2 billion rubles, follows from the explanatory note to the draft federal budget for 2016 (RBC has it). May decrees requiring higher salaries of state employees will not be formally violated.

    Read more at RBC:
    http://www.rbc.ru/economics/11/10/2015/5617d5a59a7947268ae2a278
    Draw your own conclusions.
  28. Arandir
    Arandir 12 October 2015 13: 23 New
    +3
    I don’t understand who put so many minuses to Delyagin. After all, he speaks and writes everything correctly.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 13 October 2015 13: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Arandir
      After all, he speaks and writes everything correctly.

      At first the communist Bolsheviks spoke and wrote "correctly". Then Gorbachev, Yeltsin and his comrades spoke and wrote correctly. And both times our country collapsed.

      During the reign of Ivan the Terrible, Russia increased 30 !!! (thirty) times.
      From 1897 to 1914, the population of the Russian Empire increased by almost 49 million.


      Take care of Russia !!!
  29. Zai pali
    Zai pali 12 October 2015 14: 09 New
    -1
    Nonsense and temporary difficulties. We need to develop small business, agriculture and the processing industry.
  30. Sinoby
    Sinoby 12 October 2015 14: 20 New
    0
    As Comrade I. Stalin said, - "You q %%% to or enemy? ". (in the original does not work, tolerance, ...) There is an opinion that all the same enemies.
  31. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 12 October 2015 15: 44 New
    0
    What was, it will be; and what has been done will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. Eccl. 3:15
  32. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 12 October 2015 17: 11 New
    +2
    "In the first eight months of 2015, unused balances on budget accounts grew by 1 trillion rubles - up to 10,7 trillion! This means that for more than 10 months the budget may not collect income at all - and no one, except accountants from the Treasury, has anything With the money frozen in the budget, it is possible to build a second Russia, incomparably more modern, efficient and comfortable than the current one, but the Ministry of Finance does not even think of investing the money of Russian taxpayers for the good of Russia. On the contrary, it withdraws the bulk of these funds abroad, supporting them the financial systems of Western countries that have unleashed a real economic war against us "

    As long as the country's economy is structured like oligarchic capitalism, everything will be so! In modern conditions, it is necessary to eliminate the oligarchy, which is possible with the transition to state capitalism, as the forerunner of building socialism (since we foolishly allowed the degenerates from the CPSU to overwhelm the USSR and the foundations of socialism). And while in Russia liberals call for building the so-called liberal capitalism, being in fact the agents of the same oligarchic capitalism. With the transition to state capitalism, all issues with domestic investments and other economic issues will be resolved and, in about 10-15 years, a direct transition to building a socialist society will already be possible, because its principles give the peoples of the Earth hope for the prosperity of mankind, and not degeneration proposed by financial oligarchic capitalism, led by the SGA! hi
  33. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 12 October 2015 20: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: gjv
    There are no reasonable grounds for top-management monthly income to exceed 4-8 million rubles.

    Top management (Sechin, Yakunin, Chubais, etc.) answers: "If there are no reasonable grounds, we will just raise our salaries"!
  34. Vasisualiy
    Vasisualiy 13 October 2015 01: 13 New
    +2
    Why are you humiliating the unsinkable? They were sentenced for life to the administration of the Russian Federation for the exploits of the times of EBN and BAB. They are the giants of thought and the fathers of the Russian shit democracy, the builders of the bazaar economy and liberals to the core, they will put the lives of Russians on the altar of the American dream. And you sniff them ... Ask Gavnopolsky and Latin matzo, they will explain to you why you are wrong.
  35. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 13 October 2015 12: 04 New
    0
    Now, oil companies have received a double blow: even those who have not fallen under the company's sanctions have de facto been able to get long-term loans in the West and refinance debts of previous years, respectively, and they have to be returned in the face of falling revenues due to cheaper oil. This significantly worsened their financial situation.
    Unprofitable ??? Return the "People's Property" "to the state. How they stole in the 90s for pennies, no one whined, but here: There is not enough for the eighth island in the Pacific Ocean (or a competitor has a yacht twenty meters longer) we are not local people, help! The appetite of 50 top managers will be cut and will be enough for investments. I think so!