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As taught to understand our history of high school students in 1996 year (quotes from the textbook)

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As taught to understand our history of high school students in 1996 year (quotes from the textbook)Yesterday, the textbook “Patriotic история. XX Century ”, published in 1996 year. Author - I.I. Dolutsky, Mnemozina Publishing House, Moscow. The book is intended for students of 10-11 classes, recommended by the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation. I have not read it to the end yet, but I “killed” most of the night: I just could not tear myself away. Were upset different feelings - from horror to impotence.


It turns out that I was supposed to go to school in this textbook, but this did not happen for some unknown reason. Probably, our teacher refused. But after all, there were those guys who studied this “History” in the classroom and prepared homework for it, reports, essays, preparing to take exams at a university ...

I will not comment on anything. Just give some quotes, and everything will become clear. Punctuation and spelling I kept. So if you notice errors (and they are there) - this is not mine.

20 page. “Stalin never selflessly interested in other people, their fates. He very rarely felt sympathy for anyone. These types of leaders are always, according to M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin, go ahead, as if the road on which they found themselves, belongs exclusively to them. From a distance it may seem that these people, although of harsh, but strong convictions. However, this is an optical illusion ...

... In 1941, the Stalinist arrogance disappeared. "Leader of the Nations" was ready to recognize the primacy of Hitler. What do you think really brings these politicians together? .. ”

48 page. “... Any old soldier will tell you that his attitude towards the allies (of England and the USA) and then, in the war, and now is very skeptical. He does not understand the soldiers: why did they not open the second front, did not help us?

Only he forgot or doesn’t know - we joined England, which fought a whole year alone against fascist Germany. This is our country has become a second front ...

... Until June 1941, the Soviet leaders observed the collapse of the front in France with stone calmness ... They rendered considerable economic and other assistance to Nazi Germany ... Now, their impulse was - and then became their permanent policy - to demand all possible assistance from Great Britain ... Do not hesitate, the Soviet leadership, in an urgent and sharp manner, began to demand from exhausted and fighting England to send military materials, which her own army lacked so much ... "

52 page. “Who considered Leningraders who died on the mainland? Who can say how many children were promoted during a crazy race along the “road of death” through Ladoga? How many mothers threw themselves? You say, this can not be so that the mother of her own child ... But what do we, well-fed, know and understand about ourselves and other people? ..

Smoked meat, condensed milk, and other delicacies were taken to the besieged Leningrad ... Fattered power was not inactive. There was no light, water, radio, newspapers ... Leningraders found themselves in a double ring - inside and out. They - not knowing that Stalin did not hope until 1942, for a favorable outcome of the war ... - survived, survived ... "

115 page. "... Perhaps, the only fundamental difference between Zhukov and Rokossovsky is that he was lucky to Georgy Konstantinovich - he did not sit in the camp" ...

123 page. “... And the dead? Here they are in the winter in a neutral position - stripped to their underwear. Undressed trophy team (his!) Those who were close to our trenches. And it was thought to the fighter: even if they killed him closer to the Germans, trophy players crawl in their faces ...

Many participated in the war, and anybody did his business not by choice, but by order ... ”

154 page. “... Of course, we should have taken Berlin on May 1, the Day of International Solidarity of Workers. In any case, political work was conducted in this direction in our troops. One after another, the attacks on the Reichstag rolled and choked ... "

171 page. “Our victory seems to many unnecessary and terrible at its price. People are surprised: “Why did we win that war?” They point to Germany: they say that she lost, so that we live like that ...

When we only won,
All countries have crushed in a row
it is abundant in the country
Nerds, Kholuyov, soldiers.
When only we won,
We would become higher than other races,
from the world would have fenced off
Barbed wire us.
The country would have strengthened the nerves
Driving their people into a coffin.
The offspring for her - canned
And the blood - raspberry syrup.
Then b all thinkers tried,
And the prisons would be full
When only would we win ...
But, fortunately, we are defeated.

So wrote the German poet E.Kestner after ... the first world war. And with us - “when we won” - and it turned out ”...

I could not read further. Forces are not enough, and the night was nearing morning. I did not have time to look on the Internet for information about the author of the textbook, but I will do it without fail. In the meantime, what do you say, dear readers of Military Survey? ...
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  1. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 21 October 2015 06: 25 New
    +36
    Please, do not spoil your mood with this author, do not read it. And so everything is clear. What you write, your stories are the best weapon. They are written with respect and love for the Country and the People who were. Thank you for them. .
    1. Vend
      Vend 21 October 2015 09: 59 New
      +27
      On the face is the work to destroy Russian consciousness and memory. In 90's, messing up memory was the norm. I’m wondering, is this textbook still in use or not?
      1. smershxnumx
        smershxnumx 21 October 2015 12: 40 New
        +14
        I don’t remember whose statement this is, but in the subject:

        - If you want to destroy your enemy, raise his children ...
        1. ermak.sidorov
          ermak.sidorov 21 October 2015 15: 21 New
          +4
          In my opinion, this is a Jesuit formula ... I heard on an excursion that after the Pope profiled several Reformation Wars in Europe, a project was launched to drastically raise the status of Catholic universities and Protestant youth (especially the "golden" ones) went there almost in schools and teachers and professors there were mostly Catholics and Jesuits ... in such a way, in 100-200 years, Protestant Europe lost much of what was cut with bitterness under Luther
        2. Rivares
          Rivares 21 October 2015 15: 32 New
          +7
          The main battle that takes place is the battle at the school desk.
          Bismarck.
        3. Observer2014
          Observer2014 21 October 2015 19: 40 New
          +6
          Author - I.I. Dolutsky, studied at the Faculty of History, Moscow State University. In 1973 he was expelled from the university (and also expelled from the Komsomol) after the publication of the wall newspaper of the faculty, together with A. Fadin and P. Kudyukin, where he expressed satirical oppositional views (see: [1]). Later restored, graduated from the history department. Since 1979 he taught history at Moscow schools, including the European Gymnasium, as well as at the Moscow Higher School of Social and Economic Sciences. He created several textbooks on national history. Many times he spoke at various public venues, in print, on the radio on controversial issues in the history of Russia and the USSR.

          After the meeting of V. Putin with Russian historians in November 2003, in the same year, according to the “letter of veterans” from the textbook of I. Dolutsky “Domestic History. XX Century ”(1994, reprinted many times), the signature stamp of the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation was removed, recommending a book for teaching in high school (see: [2]; [3]).

          Wife - historian and political scientist Tatyana Vorozheykina.

          This is what Wikipedia about this patriot gave out. In general, you just think about the process of what is happening!
          1. Xanna
            Xanna 22 October 2015 05: 49 New
            +1
            Well, one was banned, and how many others are ???
            We officially have almost a third of the country (judging by personal statistics) sincerely believe that people died for Stalingrad because it is so called, and there was no other benefit in this city.

            The problem is not in education, but in teachers! If someone who teaches dumbness himself like a cork and doesn’t see all this bullshit, then what do you want from students ?!
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. Morrrow
        Morrrow 21 October 2015 15: 54 New
        +2
        I personally do not know such a textbook. I studied according to Danilov, and on the contrary, it infuriated me that mistakes were not recognized, such as the war of 1798-1801 or the war of 1805-1807.
    2. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 21 October 2015 11: 12 New
      +6
      In the meantime, what do you say, dear readers of Military Review? ...


      Though stand, at least fall.
      1. sssla
        sssla 21 October 2015 11: 40 New
        +9
        Only he forgot or doesn’t know - we joined Englandwho fought for a whole year alone against fascist Germany. This is our country has become a second front.

        ... Until June 1941, Soviet leaders watched with stony calm the collapse of the front in France ... They provided Nazi Germany with significant economic and other assistance ... Now their impulse was - and then became their constant policy - demand all sorts of help from the UK... without hesitation, the Soviet leadership in an urgent and harsh form began to demand from the exhausted and fighting England to send military materialsthat her own army lacked so much ... "

        52 page. “Who considered Leningraders who died on the mainland? Who can say how many children were promoted during a crazy race along the “road of death” through Ladoga? How many mothers threw themselves? You say, this can not be so that the mother of her own child ... But what do we, well-fed, know and understand about ourselves and other people? ..

        Smoked meats, condensed milk, and other delicacies were transported to besieged Leningrad ... Fattened authorities did not act. . Leningraders found themselves in a double ring - inside and out. They - not knowing that Stalin did not hope until 1942 for a favorable outcome of the war ... - survived, survived ”...

        Page 123. "... And the dead?" Here they are in the winter on the neutral - stripped to their underwear. Stripped by a trophy team (mine!) Those who were next to our trenches. And the fighter thought: even if they killed closer to the Germans - trophies crawl there to crawl ...

        Many participated in the war, and anybody did his business not by choice, but by order ... ”

        154 page. “... Of course, we should have taken Berlin on May 1, the Day of International Solidarity of Workers. In any case, political work was conducted in this direction in our troops. One after another, the attacks on the Reichstag rolled and choked ... "

        Page 171. “Our victory seems unnecessary to many. People are surprised: “Why did we win that war?”
        I’m just shocked that they’re studying or studying at school !!! And after that it’s not surprising that they urinate on the eternal fires or sausages are fried on fire
        1. jjj
          jjj 21 October 2015 12: 45 New
          +9
          Against the background of the “Glasnost” that developed in the country at that time, the text of this textbook still looks quite innocent. Personally, I only thanks to binges, when the effect of alcohol ended and insomnia ensued, in order to pass the time I was forced to read what was at hand. It turned out, as a rule, "works with a new look." Solzhenitsyn, Grossman, a number of smaller writers. I comprehended them through bouts of nausea. And somehow I finally understood that this is a sickening art. At the same time, he read Pushkin’s Tales of Belkin, the tales of Ilf and Petrov, the Finn Maya Lassil (he is familiar to a wide circle on the Gaida film adaptation of “Behind the Matches”). So this reading, on the contrary, helped to recover and gave balms to the soul
      2. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik 21 October 2015 16: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        In the meantime, what do you say, dear readers of Military Review? ...


        Though stand, at least fall.

        Join.
    3. bastard
      bastard 21 October 2015 16: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Reptiloid
      You, please, do not spoil your mood with this author, do not read it.

      But this, alas, makes us read our children.
      1. papik09
        papik09 23 October 2015 02: 42 New
        0
        Quote: villain
        But this, alas, makes us read our children.

        But with this "porter" it is NECESSARY, and urgently, to PUSH ON THE SCREENER (you can even kick it on the head) angry
  2. Glot
    Glot 21 October 2015 06: 27 New
    +32
    In the meantime, what do you say, dear readers of Military Review? ...


    What can I say? 96th year, obscurantism and plum of the Country in full growth. So the textbook, or rather the quoted quotes do not surprise.
    1. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 21 October 2015 08: 19 New
      +30
      So, as a reference. And watching information on the Internet about the author was probably worth it before writing the article.
      So as not to rub your nerves (at least)
      He studied at the Faculty of History, Moscow State University. In 1973 he was expelled from the university (and also expelled from the Komsomol) after the publication of the wall newspaper of the faculty, together with A. Fadin and P. Kudyukin, where he expressed satirical oppositional views. Later restored, graduated from the history department. Since 1979 he taught history at Moscow schools, including the European Gymnasium, as well as at the Moscow Higher School of Social and Economic Sciences. He created several textbooks on national history. Many times he spoke at various public venues, in print, on the radio on controversial issues in the history of Russia and the USSR.

      After the meeting of V. Putin with Russian historians in November 2003, in the same year, according to the “letter of veterans” from the textbook of I. Dolutsky “Domestic History. XX Century ”(1994, reprinted many times) the neck of the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation was removed, recommending a book for teaching in high school

      It seems that the author has become a persona non grata in publishing houses. No one else and never a single textbook will coordinate it. Which, of course, pleases.
      Now grazing on Echo with their own kind.
      From the latest jokes:
      Dolutsky compiled his study guide, but his publication was banned, since Putin’s rule there is called an “authoritarian dictatorship”.
      Do raka rake is. And nothing more is needed. Not encrypted - and great.
    2. Russian Uzbek
      Russian Uzbek 21 October 2015 09: 12 New
      +21
      what can I say?
      published with the money of the Soros Foundation! and that's it
      1. jjj
        jjj 21 October 2015 12: 48 New
        +4
        And, by the way, a single history textbook, despite the president’s demand, has not yet been written. And the Minister of Education openly throughout the country said that the Ministry is not going to do this. After all, do not be afraid
  3. Moore
    Moore 21 October 2015 06: 29 New
    +35
    It is not necessary, dear Sophia, to go into the details of the biography of this individual.
    Everything fits in a couple of paragraphs:
    He studied at the Faculty of History, Moscow State University. In 1973 he was expelled from the university (and also expelled from the Komsomol) after the publication of the wall newspaper of the faculty, together with A. Fadin and P. Kudyukin, where he expressed satirical oppositional views. Later restored, graduated from the history department. Since 1979 he taught history at Moscow schools, including the European Gymnasium, as well as at the Moscow Higher School of Social and Economic Sciences. He created several textbooks on national history. Many times he spoke at various public venues, in print, on the radio on controversial issues in the history of Russia and the USSR.
    After the meeting of V. Putin with Russian historians in November 2003, in the same year, according to the “letter of veterans” from the textbook of I. Dolutsky “Domestic History. XX century ”(1994, repeatedly reprinted) the stamp of the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation was removed, recommending a book for teaching in high school.

    This is an excerpt from Wiki.
    In other words, the classic “sufferer for beliefs”. Yes Yes. Having wiped out this wrestler from the university, the Soviet government subsequently recognized him as an absolutely hopeless dissident, made it possible to complete his education, and even allowed the younger generation to be educated. She was kind ...
    Well, in the 90s, this pale sickness perfectly fit into the mainstream reform of school education a la Soros.
  4. Yak28
    Yak28 21 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +21
    In the 90s, traitors to the homeland came to power, and it was a matter of honor to smear Soviet power, the great people of that time. On those years communists were keen on communism, and artists and singers who became millionaires also did not miss the opportunity to pour mud the history of their country. From this, the textbooks were so ugly then. I know that after my death a lot of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of history will mercilessly scatter it! (I.V. Stalin, 1943)
  5. Yarik
    Yarik 21 October 2015 06: 35 New
    +6
    I wonder who, on the wiki, the biography of Dolutsky I.I. is. In general, everything is clear.
  6. blizart
    blizart 21 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +9
    Even in short passages it can be seen that the presentation style is far from verified, somewhat buffoonish. Although Moore’s information about the satirical past explains a lot. In general, of course, I would have Hottabych, I would have pulled ALL of these personalities to myself. Oh, and I would argue with them, to hoarseness, to their bloody snot!
    1. BMW
      BMW 21 October 2015 08: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: blizart
      to their bloody snot!

      This is not democratic, not liberal, not democratic, take pity on them, they are all the same kind of people. It’s easier to be, a bottle of brilliant green and a bullet, that’s their fate.
  7. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 21 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +12
    Igor Chebykin: This historical layer is a battlefield, and, at the same time, an object of impact. According to our history, from our memory they beat from all propaganda guns, pour boilers of boiling slander, implicated in bile and anger. Do not disdain any weapons. They hit both from the front, and from the rear, and their own and others. To understand history, carefully separating grains from the chaff, black from white, worthy from unworthy, beaters have no desire. Nothing. There is only one goal: to present Soviet history as one big hut, empty, ominous and echoing, like the surviving huts of the Auschwitz concentration camp, which was liberated by Soviet soldiers. So if they even remembered this story, it was exclusively with fear, hatred and disgust.
  8. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 21 October 2015 06: 46 New
    +9
    The historian Yevgeny Spitsyn composed his own version of the Unified School Textbook. But the textbook is not in demand by the authorities because it does not water Soviet history. I have to publish it on my own. Rather, folk, - https://planeta.ru/campaigns/vypusk-edinogo-uchebnika-istorii-rossii/comments
  9. free
    free 21 October 2015 06: 54 New
    +8
    shoot this author and the end of the case!
    1. Glot
      Glot 21 October 2015 06: 58 New
      +7
      shoot this author and the end of the case!


      Alas, the death penalty has been abolished here. That's all scum and does what he wants, and writes what he wants.
      1. atos_kin
        atos_kin 21 October 2015 08: 16 New
        +8
        Make to chew all the copies on the Forehead!
        1. Orang
          Orang 21 October 2015 14: 31 New
          +1
          And do not give tea to drink. Let it dry.
  10. wadim13
    wadim13 21 October 2015 07: 26 New
    +13
    What is so unusual? Such a normal textbook for the 90s, given the megatracks of Suvorov books. And after all, this pseudo-historical abomination diverged by “cheers”. For children - the "right" textbook, for moms and dads - Suvorov excrement.
  11. qwert
    qwert 21 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +12
    You have not yet tried to re-read the magazines of the Gorbachev era. The same wings of the motherland, youth technology, aviation and astronautics broadcast about the repression and insignificance of Stalin. It would seem that it wasn’t “Twinkle”, but it looks like the installation was tough. They killed love for the Motherland with all their might and taught her to be ashamed.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 21 October 2015 08: 53 New
      -11
      For example, I re-read the Technique of Youth for 39 and 40 years.
      And I advise you.
      On the one hand, of course, there is an economic boom, industrial and military growth.
      On the other hand, sheer falsity, gloating over the collapse of the Western world.
      The constant eulogies of the successes of the Red Army in the Civil War. I mean, the great First Horse mounted many victories and defeated everyone around, but for some reason she had to retreat. However, the culprit was found. Because of Trotsky. And also because of Tukhachevsky.

      An article about the construction of the Stalingrad Tractor. About labor heroism as it was erected exclusively at night. But if you read between the lines ... oh my god ...
      For some reason, the assembly kits of tractors that came from America had to make many details in a makeshift way .... when assembling the engine, the workers ran to a nearby workshop where they cut screws and nuts ... and then one of the components of the engine was heroically hammered with a sledgehammer ... like that , I'm asking you? At the opening of the plant, the front tractor stood up, after passing fifty meters, it was heroically repaired and he went on.
      Tell me honestly. Do you like such a story?
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 21 October 2015 09: 55 New
        +3
        So it turns out that at that time they wrote everything as is?
      2. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 21 October 2015 10: 04 New
        +5
        Tell me honestly. Do you like such a story?
        You probably can’t say better:
        History, corrupt science

        Murat Toros Baychora

        History, corrupt science,
        Anything can be proved.
        Politics is her friend
        Here he rules and neither give nor take.

        So, just a bike can give out the fact
        And hide the facts and even ridicule
        Accident declared terrorist attack
        Aboriginal call aliens.

        Isn't that why my people were an outcast?
        And it’s often hard to find the ends.
        Heroes always make history
        And they often rewrite scoundrels.
      3. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 21 October 2015 10: 21 New
        +20
        You're lying. On kinozal.tv there is just a selection of "Youth Techniques" for 1928-2015. I was not too lazy to download, leaf through the numbers for the 30s and 40s, and nowhere have I found any such "gloating" about the collapse of the "Western world" and other bullshit about which you wrote. The “Youth Technique” of the 30s and 40s was a thin magazine in which scientific and technical news from around the world were mainly described and fantastic stories and stories of various authors, both Soviet and Western, were printed. And where did you find it "about the first horse" and how the axis there was "hammered with a sledgehammer"? Write in which issue you read it and on which page, I’ll look, check, maybe I watched inattentively? .... winked
      4. kotvov
        kotvov 21 October 2015 10: 40 New
        +6
        Tell me honestly. Do you like such a story ?,
        but you obviously adhere to the statements, “the war was won in spite of Stalin,” do you even understand that if you hadn’t built the economic component, you couldn’t have won on patriotism. .
      5. brn521
        brn521 21 October 2015 10: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        Tell me honestly. Do you like such a story?

        This option is already better. One and the same source contains two layers of information. But this is the specifics of the source, it will not work in another way. Only general slogans will begin to be written — they will lose their specialization. They will begin to write frank lies in particular - they will quickly lose the trust of readers and turn into jesters casting a shadow on the Soviet regime. That maneuvered as they could.
      6. not main
        not main 21 October 2015 20: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        when assembling the engine, the workers ran to a nearby workshop where they cut screws and nuts.

        Do you even know what a screw is? And in the production of tractor equipment in the 30s, this miracle of technology was not applied! A screw is designed for fastening to soft materials (wood, plastic) and where can you find it in a tractor of the 30s?
  12. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 21 October 2015 07: 30 New
    +10
    And I wonder who actually wrote this so-called textbook so-called stories. Even from the citations cited in the article, it is clear that this r ... about, recommended at one time by the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation for educating children, is a liberal vysery (sorry for my harshness, but you can’t say otherwise), a vivid manifestation of the de-Stalinization policy and the sweeping harassment of the Soviet period of our history with you, our country with you. Whoever, but I personally was outraged by how the authors of this trashy little book very freely, and even in an ernically-shedding style, interpret the events of the Great Patriotic War. In general, this is not a textbook, but an example of the most base pro-Western propaganda. The rhetorical question: to whom was it profitable in the dashing 90s?
    I hope that in modern history textbooks the events of the Soviet era are interpreted more truthfully. "A people who do not know and do not want to know the past of their country have no future."
    I have the honor.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 21 October 2015 17: 27 New
      +1
      Maybe he wrote, but the message was given for creative thought, the changes were made and serious uncles from abroad gave money for this.
      The works of such traitors were not for nothing clear to the country.


      Yours faithfully, hi
    2. FM-78
      FM-78 21 October 2015 23: 27 New
      0
      And, I wonder what textbook in Kazakhstan, Friend?
  13. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 21 October 2015 07: 34 New
    +3
    Democracy. Alas. If Putin lifts the moratorium on death for betraying national interests, they will pour him upside down. However, a popular referendum will give an accurate answer. And these grant fighters are afraid of it like fire. Although there is a death penalty in the coolest democracy. And no one arises, they can be mattresses.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 21 October 2015 07: 55 New
    +9
    What can I say, the author is a well-known grantee ... The textbook was written to order and with the money of the "great friend" of Russia Soros ... The Russian press wrote so touching about him in the 90s ... A savior came to type, who will take our science and education to its feet. . You got acquainted with the result ..
  15. Scraptor
    Scraptor 21 October 2015 08: 13 New
    -4
    "In the meantime - what do you say, dear readers of Military Review? ..."

    Previously, you had to look there!
  16. fa2998
    fa2998 21 October 2015 08: 30 New
    +5
    Quote: Glot
    What can I say?

    And there’s something to say. THE WHOLE HISTORY of the 20th century is still being created in the capital. And whoever doesn’t sit in the Kremlin is the one who adjusts the history to their own views. And everyone wrote different things under Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin , To Putin. And after Putin they will write something completely different. We will not see the true HISTORY, attention will be focused on certain moments, some will be lowered, and some will still be kept in top-secret archives. A NEW HISTORY IS A TOOL OF PROPAGANDA, and power is from he won’t let himself go, and enjoys it completely! I don’t even criticize him, the government maintains its authority, and everyone does not know what he will do when he climbs the pedestal. hi
  17. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 21 October 2015 08: 34 New
    -8
    Actually the textbook as a textbook. Product of its time. School books provide fragmentary and scarce information and do not teach history on them.
    - If Stalin in the 40th at the time of the fall of France moved his legions to Germany and Romania ....
    - If the Entente had been preserved in one form or another.
    How many such "ifs" ...
    But on the other hand, because we have lost so much - human lives, resources, material and cultural wealth ...
    I don’t like, for example, the concept adopted in the era of socialism about a sudden attack by an incredible number and strength of hordes of fascists and the desperate resistance of the Red Army .... as a result, we ended up near Moscow. Well, how is it? So the truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle. And the real story of the war will still be written.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 21 October 2015 10: 42 New
      +4
      . And the real story of the war will still be written. ,,
      I hope not like you.
      1. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer 21 October 2015 11: 51 New
        0
        Actually the textbook as a textbook. Product of its time. School books give sketchy and scarce information and do not learn history from them.

        Especially if the autor is scanty. am
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    2. MrK
      MrK 21 October 2015 13: 00 New
      +5
      Dear Cap.Morgan. I, in my opinion, once already recommended you a book that readers recommend as a textbook for high school. It is a pity that you did not read it. There are answers to most of your questions. Therefore, I recommend again:
      Kurlyandchik Alexander– “CURSED SOVIET AUTHORITY” ... on Proza.ru.
      Best regards
  18. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 21 October 2015 08: 36 New
    +8
    Sophia, you are a fine fellow .... such ridiculous opuses which at that time called a textbook are a reflection of a difficult time when they simply wanted to destroy the Russians as a nation ... and Judas in the person of the author of this obscurantism has always been and will be. And it’s very nice to realize that now everything has changed just dramatically
  19. V.ic
    V.ic 21 October 2015 08: 53 New
    +2
    For a banana-lemon colony, the textbook is just right. Just not for Russia!
  20. Batia
    Batia 21 October 2015 09: 01 New
    +2
    Sophia, you are great for raising this topic. Indeed, in the 90s it was disgusting to watch how people like this “product” (you can’t call it otherwise) rushed to pour dirt on our entire past and broadcast about our black future. Now there are also enough "liberalists", but my opinion is that they are now clearly distinguishable (to spit them in a mug).
  21. Mantykora
    Mantykora 21 October 2015 09: 02 New
    +5
    These are still flowers ... I studied - in the textbooks on the history of Ukraine then there was delirium (mid-2000's), but now! now complete nonsense. Even Ukrainian literature - half of the stories there were written by drug addicts, not otherwise. You know, when you watch the series, then the question "what did the scriptwriters smoke?" The history of Ukraine generally consists of myths generously hung on a few facts, often interpreted to disgrace.

    Of course, in the history of any country, even in the history of Russia / USSR, there are enough myths. For example, the union of Russian lands around Moscow. In reality, there were several such centers, including the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It’s just that Moscow turned out to have more resources, good luck, and cunning of rulers. And then - whoever won is right.

    History is always written from the present, and not taking into account the morality, customs, and mores of the past. The question is - how much lie? Who cares, reads not only school books.
  22. Dessa
    Dessa 21 October 2015 09: 22 New
    +1
    From Wikipedia:

    After the meeting of V. Putin with Russian historians in November 2003, in the same year, according to the “letter of veterans” from the textbook of I. Dolutsky “Domestic History. XX Century ”(1994, reprinted many times) the neck of the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation was removed, recommending a book for teaching in high school

    It is comforting
  23. Dessa
    Dessa 21 October 2015 09: 25 New
    +8
    Here he is, by the way, the author
    1. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 21 October 2015 10: 20 New
      +3
      Full paragraph!
    2. shershen
      shershen 21 October 2015 11: 57 New
      +5
      There are two logical questions:
      1 Is he a Jew?
      2 Who allowed this hangover to write textbooks?
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 21 October 2015 17: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: shershen
        There are two logical questions:
        1 Is he a Jew?
        2 Who allowed this hangover to write textbooks?


        I would prefer not to talk about nationality, so as not to provoke another Israel-s-r-h at the forum, and not insult comrades from Israel at the military academy.)) But the fact that one field is a berry with Novodvorskie and other pseudo-intellectual riffraff for sure.
        May I add it? wink

        3 He is a loser and gray insecurity in life?
        4 His women do not like?


        Perhaps in this, directly according to Freud, such reasons for hatred of our country? wink
      2. moskowit
        moskowit 21 October 2015 19: 04 New
        +3
        Any idiot is allowed to write. That is not the point. And the bottom line is who published them and recommended them as a school manual! That is the Enemy.
    3. IAlex
      IAlex 21 October 2015 12: 59 New
      +1
      The inscription "European Gymnasium" - already defines its shitty essence ...
  24. RPG_
    RPG_ 21 October 2015 09: 44 New
    +8
    To say that I'm furious is to say nothing. In captivity, you begin to think why the Soviet government was so kind to such dissidents. How do such people raise their hands to distort history?
    In order not to slide into insults and obscene language, I will finish my opus about this little book.
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 21 October 2015 09: 57 New
    +2
    Textbook authors and anyone who has lobbied for this fiend of hell must be shot.
    They can’t even live in hard labor.
  26. fregina1
    fregina1 21 October 2015 10: 06 New
    +9
    I studied in such textbooks written by "assholes" and you won’t call it otherwise! I was fond of history, won prizes at regional competitions and cut into such textbooks even then! Understanding the horror of what was written and the fact that the authors work for a foreign country tore my brain! Thanks to my teacher, Honored Teacher of the USSR Lyudmila Fedorovna, who explained this to us in Russian! But I remembered the end of the textbook for grade 9 for life ... "Russia has finally abandoned its imperial ambitions. Ways to find a way out of Russia from the crisis continue! "1997 was in the yard! The country was ruled by a drunk, we were all in a state of similar" strength "! God forbid our country to repeat this ..
  27. teron
    teron 21 October 2015 10: 17 New
    +5
    He graduated from the school in 1996. I have not seen this textbook. Our historian was a man (at that time) of liberal views, like most of his colleagues. What is strange - s / n they were then paid not very regularly. Accordingly, at the exit from me it turned out liberal. But since I loved (and now love) to read historical works (now only documentary), my opinion gradually changed regarding the Soviet period in the history of my homeland. And service in the army put everything in its place completely.
    So school textbooks are not over yet, and a hostile school curriculum is not a sentence.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 21 October 2015 11: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: teron
      So school textbooks are not over yet, and a hostile school curriculum is not a sentence.

      Everyone chooses his own path, only it would be better if from the very beginning to go on the right path. You’ll have a faster target.
      1. teron
        teron 21 October 2015 11: 55 New
        +3
        From the very beginning, on the right track is certainly good. Take me: the collapse of the Union, the fall in popularity of the Communist Party. Everyone around us says that we will live in the West. All friends, their parents, popular people on TV. And my grandfather, a war veteran, said that we would have to fight, and we wouldn’t haplessly woes. I argued with him, hoarse - young, stupid. Here he is, the right way, instructed me. But no! They said differently on TV. So from the very beginning it’s not always and not everyone succeeds, but many don’t succeed at all, they live in a fictitious reality that is in their head.
        And my grandfather was right in everything, everything that he said about our new life, everything came true. As I looked into the water.
  28. Army soldier2
    Army soldier2 21 October 2015 10: 38 New
    +5
    Sophia, thanks for the info. The country must know its "heroes." Of course, this textbook, so to speak, is not an accident or a mistake. This is an element of focused work on the collapse of our society and state. The work is paid, well organized and managed.
    I think that at present the appearance of such a textbook is no longer possible.
    At the beginning of the 90's, I was in Kiev, and my sister showed me a history textbook, according to which my niece studied. The content is approximately similar to the "textbook" Dolutsky. In it (in the textbook) there was a paragraph that struck me in my memory. It was called "Zivdki wrote m_o_s_k_a_li" (translated into the language of native aspens "where did m_o_s_k_a_l_i come from"). I bring it close to the text in translation.
    "Where did m_o_s_k_a_l_i come from? You know about the existence of the great state of Kievan Rus. However, part of the population betrayed their homeland and went north into the forests. There they re-bought with a miracle and other wild peoples. Then they founded the city of Moscow. Prince Yuri Dolgoruky was with them. Why was he so nicknamed? Because he had such long arms that hung below his knees. From there went m_o_s_k_a_l_i, who now look at us with their imperial eyes. "
    Here is an example of a story in Ukrainian.
    Yesterday, readers suggested creating a site about villains. The candidate was called Tolokonnikova. I think Dolutsky is also worthy to take a place in it.
    1. shershen
      shershen 21 October 2015 12: 02 New
      +1
      It is necessary to create a website of the enemies of the Russian people.
  29. van zai
    van zai 21 October 2015 10: 59 New
    +6
    Once again, I recall the statement of my class teacher: “If mathematics is the queen of sciences, then history is her (science) whore. Whoever is in power has it.
  30. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 21 October 2015 11: 05 New
    +5
    fainting! the author of the textbook is a clear representative of the 5th column! get out of Russia - forever! is it we have joined England ???? Well, well ........ I would have come across this author! whip wait!
  31. Belousov
    Belousov 21 October 2015 11: 40 New
    +3
    Unfortunately, modern history textbooks also correspond to please politicians. The Tatar-Mongol yoke has already been renamed so that the Tatars would not be “offended”. I feel they will write soon as General Yermolov went to bow to Shamil.
    In addition, the question arises - how did the "bloody gebnya" allow such a "historian" and other similar liberal creatures to live?!?
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 21 October 2015 16: 20 New
      +1
      And how are Batu’s campaigns to Russia explained?
  32. Lavrenty Palych
    Lavrenty Palych 21 October 2015 12: 00 New
    +2
    Why, in Moscow there are no patriots? No one can communicate culturally with Dolutsky: who wrote, who approved, and who paid for all this?
  33. a housewife
    a housewife 21 October 2015 12: 04 New
    +1
    In history textbooks it is necessary to give facts, as detailed as possible, without much interpretation. Ivan groznyj. There was this and that in his reign. He did so. No, I did it because ... Nobody was in his head. In his reign, so much was executed. Of these, for robbery, robbery and murder - so many. Stalin is the same. Give the numbers verified. Stalin is a villain! Stalin is a genius! Only emotions. Facts where? Stalin transplanted everyone! And what did all kinds of people's commissars, the chiefs of this and that, and any other citizens do at that time? Stalin is not to blame! And didn’t know anything! The system worked. A system above Stalin? Or did he create it? Yes, there were no such horrors at all, it was all invented later! Again, give the numbers - how much was sitting and for what? How many were shot and for what? How much is rehabilitated and why? Stalin missed the war. Stalin won the war! He was the Commander-in-Chief, not the sole Commander. Who actually suggested what? Documentary, please. That Stalin accepted that no - please, documentedly, without "He did it or said, because ..." Why - only he himself knew. Students should think more with their heads. And be sure to instill a love of reading. Then they will receive knowledge from various sources. Literature and history are connected as two ways of describing the world of people - actual and emotional. And to review the list of the main classics. Well, few students can get carried away with Crime and Punishment, or the epic War and Peace. Why is my niece trying three times to read The Old Man and the Sea? Still threw it. Such as this Dolutsky I do not even discuss - and so everything is clear.
  34. roml
    roml 21 October 2015 12: 11 New
    +4
    The first task of the story is
    refrain from lying, the second -
    do not hide the truth, the third -
    give no reason
    suspect yourself of
    addictions or in
    biased hostility
    (Cicero).
    any historical description should be passed through this statement and everything falls into place.
  35. greshnik80
    greshnik80 21 October 2015 12: 17 New
    +2
    I was lucky - I had another textbook at school in 97-98. In which the authors still loved their country.
  36. Roy
    Roy 21 October 2015 12: 45 New
    +2
    The liberal interpretation of the history of Russia is always Russophobia.
  37. IAlex
    IAlex 21 October 2015 12: 57 New
    +2
    Our school categorically refused to buy 199x textbooks and we studied using the 1980x books, and the first textbooks were purchased in 2001, chosen by the teachers themselves on the council after six months of familiarization with the available ...
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 21 October 2015 17: 44 New
      +1
      We had a textbook of world history for the 11th grade, written by a certain Creder with the support of the Soros Foundation, they also exposed us with shaggy ears, so the historian (a young smart man, not a senile!) Immediately said - do not open it, I will read it to you from memory. And he read, and we took notes.

      And in Russian history, for the 11th grade, our textbook was already onwards 1998, there was no such muck there. Maybe it was, but obviously not on such a scale.
  38. zemnoyd
    zemnoyd 21 October 2015 14: 17 New
    +4
    finished in 97 ... Such a textbook in a town with a population of 5 thousand. was not, and thanks to that. The historian was already about 50 years old, and was replaced by her teacher, who taught my father. They all informed us correctly, now I understand this perfectly! Thank you, Nadezhda Vasilievna and Aida Sergeevna
  39. Polov
    Polov 21 October 2015 14: 38 New
    0
    I studied in the tenth grade in 1997, I remember the history textbook as new, but somehow not interesting, incomprehensible. I read it here and there, talking about an evil look at our recent past. True or not, I do not know personally. Maybe the truth.
  40. Ronino
    Ronino 21 October 2015 14: 45 New
    +1
    Well, you say that the country does not need ideology?
    Then such textbooks and interpretations of history will be born ...
  41. Orang
    Orang 21 October 2015 14: 55 New
    0
    I love books. In childhood, in the attic and in the barn there were many already old textbooks, including on history. Constantly reread, throw out and no one had thoughts. I tore and threw only one book - Altyn-tolobas Akuninsky, already an adult. Such a textbook would also go to kindling or trash.
    Seeing the video with the author was not at all surprised, the appearance coincides with the content
  42. Captain nemo
    Captain nemo 21 October 2015 15: 02 New
    0
    we joined England, who fought for a whole year alone against fascist Germany. This is our country has become a second front ...

    In fact, the United States should join us in joining “solitary England” and bomb Germany in a duet, if only because the United States did not have any obligations to Germany with which it did not sign the “No Attack” treaty.
    ... Until June 1941, Soviet leaders with stony calm watched the collapse of the front in France ...

    Comrade Dolutsky probably does not know that it is France and England declared war on Germany, and not Germany to them.
    And even if at one time the Soviet leaders had a stone / amazed face on that triple Anglo-Polish-French "union", then it most likely was from 3.9.1939 to 17.9.1939. And then the USSR and Germany had to sign a border treaty.
    Now their impulse was - and then became their constant policy - to demand all kinds of help from Great Britain ... Without hesitation, the Soviet leadership in an urgent and harsh form began to demand from the exhausted and fighting England to send military materials that her own army lacked so much ” ...

    Well, it’s the same “knife in the back”, but not the “war-tortured” Poland, but the British Empire itself, on whose islands rubber was not grown, about which, first of all, not in the form of a demand, but as a request, Stalin asked Cherchel . And in quantitative terms, the Lend-Lease of England, greatly inferior to the United States.
  43. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 October 2015 15: 36 New
    0
    I read excerpts from the "textbook": it would be funny when it were not so sad. Regarding the author, the lines from Rosenbaum’s “Romance Kolchak” come to mind:
    "But believe me, the millennium will be denied,
    Those who decided to exchange it for a year ... "

    One consolation is that the textbook was at least removed from the recommended ones. But it’s interesting, somewhere history is taught from this textbook, or not? Everything is clear with Dolutsky (a surname with a capital letter is not an orographic mistake, it should be written in a good lower index), Kashchenko cries with burning tears, but if someone now has the audacity to teach on this waste paper - some kind of take measures.
    If in a school where my children study, I will see such pornography - it will not seem to anyone.
  44. Old warrior
    Old warrior 21 October 2015 15: 51 New
    +1
    Yes, now everything is the same just more cunning. Now teachers are being processed in an appropriate way through a grant system. I don’t understand one thing - where the FSB is looking and what they are waiting for, in a place to ruthlessly eradicate the weeds of betrayal.
  45. magdama
    magdama 21 October 2015 17: 56 New
    0
    I am sure that the textbook is still in use. With such a minister of education and government! The fifth column knows its job tightly. The only question is: why didn’t we look at this textbook in the 96th?
  46. a housewife
    a housewife 21 October 2015 18: 35 New
    +1
    Well, for example, why the hell did you look into that textbook? I finished school in 79th, and my first daughter was born in 94th. I don’t remember the author of her textbook in grades 10, 11, but the Great Patriotic War allocated exactly 2 pages there !!! After the daughter’s question - what was it like near Stalingrad? - On the same day I went to the bookstore and in the second-hand book department (then it was still) I found the book "The Great Patriotic War", it seems the 1961 edition. It was written precisely with bare facts - what part of what was doing, who the commander was, retreating, advancing, losses. Maybe that’s why she passed the USE as well, don’t need to find fault with it, nothing is scary with knowledge in my head. There is another question. In the textbook - one thing, and in different schools - different, the Teacher says what seems more correct to him, then the exam, where there may be some kind of position of a compiler of questions, then an interview can be done upon admission, and there are people with their own positions. How long ?! Need a single textbook !!! And not one author. And it should be accepted by a large commission to identify controversial issues. Putin has already given such an order. Let's see what comes out. hi
  47. Dimy4
    Dimy4 21 October 2015 18: 57 New
    0
    It seems that the textbook was written somewhere abroad, and we have translated the first version with the Stylus.
  48. TOR2
    TOR2 21 October 2015 19: 40 New
    +1
    A bit from the history of the USSR. Alternative look.
    http://rusnext.ru/news/1445420714
  49. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 21 October 2015 19: 59 New
    +2
    You know, our teachers are not very short-sighted and also analyzed the information that they brought us in the "troubled times", so few people were taught from this textbook ... I also saw it, but they taught us from old books. Thank you for the teachers.
  50. good twice
    good twice 21 October 2015 21: 01 New
    0
    The author-associate professor, candidate of geographical sciences (data from the ed. Enlightenment). His position is even more understandable if you read the interview to Memoreal at the link - http://urokiistorii.ru/learning/edu/3215.
    Sick of such historians!