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Without Big Dreams, but great. What kind of Russia will we live in now

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Dear Readers,


Back in the distant 2012, after Russia conducted the Moscow velvet revolution according to all the rules, but it did not obey, some have declared that there is a big confrontation ahead. Whether we like it or not. Both inside the country and outside - for such is the logic of the struggle for sovereignty in a unipolar world.

In connection with this, a question has arisen (and has long been in fashion), which global idea Russia will offer to the world, jumping off from the Pax Americana shelf given to it. What a way to describe the world, what aspirations and dreams for the masses, what new way of life it will carry earthlings.

A week ago, for the first time in a quarter of a century, Russia attacked an enemy outside its borders. historical territory. That is, Russia’s entry into the world power market took place in an open order.

If you wonder what idea we are going to the outside world with today, let's talk about it.

In short, this idea is not about offering a new way of life to the people of Earth. On the contrary, this is the idea of ​​categorically refusing to interfere in the way of individual states.

Actually, Russia has been doing this for a long time. Even defeating the army M.N. Saakashvili in 2008 - she did not throw the current Odessa governor from the Georgian throne. Even returning the Crimea to itself and arranging the Kiev junta Ilovaisk a year ago, Russia did not develop a “march to Kiev” (in fact, the very return of the Crimea was organized strictly in the absence of any legitimate Kiev authorities in compliance with all formal procedures).

But now this behavior of Russia is not just a practice. This is a position personally drawn up by the president himself: “the problem can be fundamentally solved only by re-establishing statehood where it was destroyed” (from a speech at the UN).

In Syria, another version of the same concept is being demonstrated - the support of the existing state against the agents of chaos.

For the only (by the end of September) global player in the force market, this is definitely a low blow. A quarter of a century the United States, together with its “roof”, imposed on its client countries its internal management and its exclusive right to change the local elites, faced with an alternative proposal, which made them nervous.

But we are about something else.

Is the current “Russian idea, export version” a kind of global slogan, according to which the world can build the future?

No, it's not. This Russian idea, of course, is designed to ensure the immediate future of Russia itself and its present and future client countries, but in fact it is just a way to mitigate by political means the political problems generated by the contradictions of the current world order. It does not break the world order: numerous “alternatives to the iPhone” can cut its market share, still remain part of the smartphone market.

Is the current “Russian idea” a program according to which you can build the strategic future of our own Motherland itself?

No, especially not.

Speaking frankly, an operating system is installed on today's Russia (and on the near future Russia), which functions in many respects similar to the ex-monopolist's operating system.

We have our own state-forming giants - in which the line between "private" and "state" is as elusive as in the United States. We have our own political economy elite. This elite is docked by a second-generation shift - 20-year-old students, to whom state-owned banks issue loans in 200 000 000 000 rub. for the purchase of gold companies.

We have, of course, an order of magnitude less developed business sectors than America - but current international practice shows that today it is less important than having an effective army and defense industry. The well-known Pushkin formula “I will buy everything, said gold; I'll take everything, he said bulat ”- not always relevant, but for periods (usually - when gold fails to cope). And now, of course, such a period. Just because no one can find the way out of the global crisis with the help of “gold” for eight years. So, the contradictions will be resolved by Bulat. For Russia, this coming crisis and the “bulat era” is the same “window of opportunity” as the end of 90 for security officials, who suddenly turned from the service personnel of the seven bankers into the masters of the situation.

But otherwise - we are like a "geopolitical opponent". The same caste society, the same demographic processes, the same widening gap between the "golden percentage" and the rest of 99.

And now - the main thing.

Practically, our invasion of the world redistribution, which does not affect the world way of life, means that for the next few years we (as indeed in the rest of the world) do not have such an element of public life as the dream of a Bright Future.

This element, we note, gave meaning to the existence of our country most of the XX century, and the last quarter of the century was the “people's faith”. Heated by the return of the melody of the old anthem (albeit with new words), then the landing of the oligarchs, or the timid installation of the monuments of the pre-USSR minister I.V. Stalin, today finally passed to the rank of people-characters.

This element in the circumstances - will be absent.

This does not mean that everything is bad and there is only one darkness ahead. The military estate, the first to enter the crisis division of world influence, has a lot of advantages and chances to “successfully participate”. Today’s Russia is not burdened by the illusion of persisting global grandeur (on the contrary, 25 years of humiliation, recognized by everyone, behind it). It does not drag on itself the burden of social parasites, comparable to the European (the Tajiks do not go to us for benefits), or the burden of “dictatorship of many minority groups”, like the USA. Such qualities as love for the Motherland, loyalty, courage and every kind of championship will certainly be actively promoted and brought up in the military estate state (by the way, yesterday the President of the Russian Federation officially returned the TRP standards. That, recall for young readers, stands for “Ready for Labor” and defense "and to fitness has a zero ideological attitude). And so on.

And only the national dream - that is, the appearance of the future, which would cover most of the citizens with super-development projects, would force them to develop themselves and show their best qualities - such a dream for today's and tomorrow's Russia has not been established. Nothing, at least presumably leading to the Great Ring of Efremov, the Half-Day World of young Strugatskys and good giants of Snegov (as, incidentally, in the current USA there is nothing that would lead to the Star Trek communist world order). Even at the level of declarations.

By the way, attempts to reinstall various copies of the Soviet dream of a bright future to today's Russia are and will be obviously unsuccessful. They simply have nothing to install and no one - most of the living citizens of the Russian Federation either grew up in 1990, or were born after the USSR. And, therefore - not able to reproduce the matrix, which is not known. The propagandists of the “remakes of the Soviet bright future” are not only few, but often extremely infantile, that is, they usually act not as organizers and preachers of the new world, but as offended reprimands of their fellow citizens in the betrayal of the old.

Of course, one may wonder whether a common dream of a bright future is needed at all (there are enough yellow-eyed contemporaries who, at the very mention of this formula, involuntarily stand out “gulag-shootings-sealed-wagon-antichrists”).

But the thing is that you still have to invent it. The society is looking for the meaning of its existence in the same way as an individual person - and in the absence of a clear vector of development, it also self-destructs itself (in a purely demographic way, for example).

It is possible that it will be necessary to invent a common dream already after the current round of global redistribution - since it didn’t work out instead. But this work is still inevitable.
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  1. igordok
    igordok 10 October 2015 14: 37 New
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    Strange article, many letters. I did not understand the idea of ​​the article, but after reading
    and having arranged the Kiev junta Ilovaisk a year ago, Russia did not begin to develop a “march to Kiev”

    article set a minus.
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 10 October 2015 14: 43 New
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      Search for the "Russian idea". Ilyin, Gumilyov and others like them. But the philosophy must be implemented on a stable economic platform. Until then, the battle for survival ...
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 10 October 2015 14: 46 New
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        Why a quarter century? In Georgia, what happened then ??
        A dream does not need to be invented - everything on the surface is healthy and wealthy citizens living in a strong and independent country. Is it really simple?
        1. Temples
          Temples 10 October 2015 15: 06 New
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          Article minus.
          I agree no need to invent life.
          Need to live!
          Build a house, raise a son, plant a tree!
          We need power that will enable everyone to perform these simple actions.
          Not to live and not to debt !!!
          And when necessary we will all defend our home and our children.
          Now foreign policy is to our liking, but inside the country is full of scoundrels at the "trough" in power.
          1. nrex
            nrex 10 October 2015 15: 39 New
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            Very correct words.
            1. 97110
              97110 10 October 2015 22: 44 New
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              Quote: nrex
              Very correct words

              A beautiful fairy tale. Who will protect this raspberry-colored power from thieves? In our apartment building, the owners of residential premises do not want to pin down thieves-neighbors. They pay general housekeeping in the amount of direct expenses and cry pityingly for Putin to come and put things in order. Because it is somehow inconvenient for them to smash the neighbor's face. They would rather pay for them in the hope that "the master will judge us." Who is there to annihilate Abramovich with the Prokhorovs magically gathered with the intactness and instant nationalization of their property? Including in the United Kingdom of Chelsea and Monaco? Manilovism is. And it is surprising to read such tales on such a serious resource as presented by the kind of clever people. Even generals.
              1. velbot185
                velbot185 10 October 2015 23: 50 New
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                Where is the serious resource? :-)
                1. Talgat
                  Talgat 11 October 2015 03: 07 New
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                  everything is clear - you need meaning and an idea as it was in the USSR!

                  But I ask the Russian comrades not to bother much with this idea - it is certainly useful and necessary - but the main thing. that her absence is not deadly

                  Yes, I understand that the USSR had an idea, and all patriots are now shouting that a new idea is urgently needed - and without it death

                  I personally think that this idea has existed for a long time - and she is 2 000 years old

                  This is our native old Eurasianism - and this idea is supported by thousands of years of history - and every time the empire seemed to be defeated - it was reborn like a phoenix bird from the ashes

                  And in 1612 and earlier the Attilla empire - Desht and Kipchak - the Golden Horde, Tsarist Russia as a successor, the USSR - and now the future Eurasian Union - the union of the Slavs and the great steppe

                  By the way, the Kazakh version of the Phoenix is ​​Samruk
                  This is the name of our main state fund - holding - which unites the main areas of our economy
                2. 97110
                  97110 12 October 2015 09: 15 New
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                  Quote: velbot185
                  Where is the serious resource? :-)

                  On dosug.nu, of course. And you did not know?
          2. Maj.
            Maj. 10 October 2015 19: 53 New
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            while the opposition will interfere with the current government, and lick the ass to the west, and we will harm you and me in every way.
          3. Dyagilev
            Dyagilev 10 October 2015 20: 03 New
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            The only thing. With each house manager, we are sausage is not childish. A healthy philosophy should be on top. Because anyone can infect an idea, people under certain conditions agree on everything - even conquer the world, even destroy their own country and sideways family and children.
            1. Alena Frolovna
              Alena Frolovna 10 October 2015 20: 19 New
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              Quote from Khramov
              And when necessary we will all defend our home and our children.


              Last year, a survey was conducted in the newspaper VZGLYAD:
              «What are you personally willing to sacrifice for Russia's success in confronting the West

              By nothing | 4.8%

              A slight decline in living standards | 14.4%

              A significant decline in living standards | 33.4%

              To all that I have, including life and health | 31.3%

              Another option (indicate in the comments) | 0.9%

              I do not accept a similar formulation of the question | 15.2%
              Total of 8678 people voted.

              And these are the comments on the survey.

              xxx xxx Voronezh
              Russia will no longer kneel! It is better to die in the battle for the motherland than to live as a slave to the USA and the EU!

              Vitali baradulka
              they, do not understand that they attack the state of Russia, а Motherland will resist them !!!

              X file Kiev
              Z1% of those willing to sacrifice their lives are approximately 40 of millions of Russian soldiers. It is enough to raze the whole of Europe with North America. And also to Australia.

              Vseslav Staromirov Moscow
              If the West will ruin Russia, then my children and grandchildren will be stupidly nowhere to live.
              Therefore, everyone !!!


              I think that after all the numerous sanctions, serious events in the world, and in the country there will be no more 31%, but more. We all do not want to lose our HOMELAND, HOUSE, LAND and PEACEFUL SKY!
              1. 34 region
                34 region 10 October 2015 21: 53 New
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                To paraphrase a question, you can ask this. What will you do in a shipwreck? 47% are willing to sacrifice all their property to save the ship, and possibly life. With regard to the outskirts, it turns out that two areas sacrifice their lives to save the ship, and the rest stupidly wet them (their rescuers). In general, the survey and reality somehow do not fit together. Or is it just on the outskirts? Well, so we are doing intensive work in this direction (rescuers need to be wetted!). In general, I don’t even know what to say about this (sad).
                1. Garris199
                  Garris199 11 October 2015 00: 44 New
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                  What does an abstract shipwreck have to do with it? Draw an analogy with an attack on a ship.
              2. vassa
                vassa 10 October 2015 23: 47 New
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                Well, this is all understandable, it's about sacrifice - then we are Russians .. But the Fat, Insatiable and Thieving Official is an enemy, perhaps worse than the USA and the EU ...
          4. dimunder
            dimunder 10 October 2015 21: 58 New
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            totally agree. In my opinion, the main task of the current government is not to prevent ordinary people from raising children, building houses and planting trees. And then the society will be healthy and strong. And no "exceptional" we will care !!!
            1. jPilot
              jPilot 11 October 2015 03: 57 New
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              "In my opinion, the main task of the current government is not to prevent ordinary people from raising children, building houses and planting trees." as well as to drink, add drugs, steal, etc. etc.
              The fact that we now have the same thing is, for 24 years the liberal government has done exactly what you are writing about. He (the government) absolutely did not care what and how the people live. It was engaged in plundering, pocketing and stealing state property. And therefore the popular idea arose to raise money at any cost. And now, when the roasted rooster pecked, all of a sudden everyone came to their senses. Remember, even in the extreme elections, the PRESIDENTIAL candidate, Mr. Prokhorov, declared his agreement with Mr. Kudrin that there is no need to spend money on the army, because Russia has NO enemies !!! Well-wishers are all around.
              So the idea and ideology in the state should be.
          5. vassa
            vassa 10 October 2015 23: 43 New
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            So far, officials and not figures have power and money ... alas and ah ...
        2. dauria
          dauria 10 October 2015 17: 00 New
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          healthy and wealthy citizens living in a strong and independent country. Is it really simple?


          Of course, simple, For a DREAM .... But the road from a dream to this very "simple"? Eh, the author, the author ... Here another long time ago painted everything. Karl Marx. And about antagonism, and about the class struggle (by the way, it has not gone anywhere), and about the smooth development of private property into public property (for example, shares of hard workers of the same company "Gazprom" smile ) And it's even funnier that he did not predict a revolution in Russia, on the contrary, he spoke about the smooth "emergence" of socialism AT THE SAME TIME in the most developed countries. It's funny, the British are teaching him, but we have a bunch of former "candidates of philosophical sciences" confused and do not understand what will happen next and how to live now. What has changed? Well, Lenin tried, so he is not a Marxist and a bad scientist (his "Marxism is not a dogma" alone is already giving up on him, as on a Marxist).
          In general, it's funny, a whole science (which was taught in any university), a bunch of "academic degrees" suddenly became an empty shell, like the outdated religion of ancient Rome. Nonsense, political economy remained, and Marx is one of the prominent scientists.
          What he wrote will be in the end. Well, and we will start with the most ordinary trade unions .... like everyone else.
        3. Yura
          Yura 10 October 2015 18: 28 New
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          Quote: lelikas
          A dream does not need to be invented - everything on the surface is healthy and wealthy citizens living in a strong and independent country. - The truth is simple

          I absolutely agree, which is simpler: "The state in the name of the people, the people in the name of the state." When sometimes raising a question, you understand that there must be a solution to it, a contrived question has no solution, but here fabrications and complications begin, behind which a ready answer is lost, ignored by the questioner. hi
        4. 97110
          97110 10 October 2015 22: 30 New
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          Quote: lelikas
          everything on the surface lies healthy and wealthy citizens living in a strong and independent country

          A simple question - their, these healthy and well-to-do citizens, their attitude to the ownership of the means of production. Now explain to me, who read Marx in his youth, why these citizens will be healthy and well-to-do? Or will there also be non-citizens who will make citizens wealthy, and therefore healthy? Unfortunately, the descendants of the Soviet people still remember (from the tales of great ancestors) about the society of justice. Which they tried to build, but the foremen could not stand the temptation. And the construction site was plundered. It will be difficult to make heroes of these "foremen". Even now, Stalin is popular. When it comes to non-citizens that their grandfathers and fathers about ... or ... In 1917, and without such a past, all these healthy and well-to-do unhealthy and unsecured. As a result of the world redistribution. After all, in my political training, proletarian hatred was instilled in me both to the "citizens" who had not been killed and to American imperialism. And class hatred
      2. ava09
        ava09 10 October 2015 14: 56 New
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        Quote: marlin1203
        That's just the philosophy must be implemented on a stable economic platform.


        A stable economic platform - a self-sufficient concept? In my opinion, any economy initially has an ideological and, if you will, moral platform ...
      3. Altona
        Altona 10 October 2015 15: 00 New
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        Quote: marlin1203
        Search for the "Russian idea". Ilyin, Gumilyov and others like them. But the philosophy must be implemented on a stable economic platform. Until then, the battle for survival ...

        ----------------------
        The main Russian idea is justice, even if it is naive and the world is cruelly arranged ... But we want the world to be harmonious and fair, without the dominance of traders and arrogant impudent people who seek to crush everything under themselves, and with gold and damask steel ...
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 10 October 2015 15: 07 New
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          Quote: Altona
          But we want the world to be harmonious and fair, without the dominance of traders and arrogant cheeks who seek to crush everything under themselves, both with gold and with damask steel.

          Does the word "utopia" tell you anything?

          A dream should not be just a "dream". It must be realizable.

          What you wrote is unrealizable. Physically No.
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 October 2015 15: 23 New
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            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Does the word "utopia" tell you anything?

            A dream should not be just a "dream". It must be realizable.

            --------------------------
            What pragmatist and cynic you are, my friend, you can’t dream straight ... laughing

            PS But seriously, building a multipolar world implies the equality of all countries and the advantage of international law, and not gathering into opposing blocs and creating protectorates ... Everything that Putin refers to as "bloc thinking" ... I mean this, then there is equal cooperation and coexistence of all countries, intolerance of outside interference, inadmissibility of the dictate of power and money ...
          2. nrex
            nrex 10 October 2015 15: 46 New
            +7
            And the author does not claim that this day will come, he only talks about the desire to be better himself. What do you want? If all villains are around, then words, honor, conscience cannot be pronounced?
          3. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz 10 October 2015 18: 47 New
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            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Quote: Altona
            But we want the world to be harmonious and fair, without the dominance of traders and arrogant cheeks who seek to crush everything under themselves, both with gold and with damask steel.

            Does the word "utopia" tell you anything?

            A dream should not be just a "dream". It must be realizable.

            What you wrote is unrealizable. Physically No.

            In general, I agree, utopia. Only if utopia remains utopian or not depends (no matter how trivial) on people. Since the dream, in my opinion it is still a vector, and not a certain constant. From the point of view of the caveman, the current state of civilization (if it is woven into it) is nothing but utopia. hi
          4. 34 region
            34 region 10 October 2015 21: 59 New
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            ??? How unrealizable? But was the USSR a mirage?
          5. Kranzbolt
            Kranzbolt 10 October 2015 22: 47 New
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            A dream should not be just a "dream". It must be realizable.

            A dream come true is plans. A dream is from the category of super-ideas. hi
        2. tor11121
          tor11121 10 October 2015 16: 48 New
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          Sharpened justice, rather a trait of the character of the Russian people and, as a result, the upholding of absolute values.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 10 October 2015 22: 12 New
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            And what is justice? The traffic inspector stopped the chapter (no matter what). From the point of view of the inspector, he stopped according to the law, but from the point of view of the head it is unfair (a serf cannot indicate to the owner). Well? Where's the justice?
        3. assam4
          assam4 10 October 2015 20: 05 New
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          The main Russian idea is justice

          Russian Deripaska, Abramovich, Rottenberg and other "comrades" from the Forbes list are much fairer than the American Rothschilds and Rockefellers ...
          1. Starik72
            Starik72 10 October 2015 23: 01 New
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            Sergei, well, hardly fair, stole billions and live happily ever after, but a simple hard worker in his pocket has louse on his lasso. Yes, even forced to take loans and live in debt. Oh, what are they Deripaska white and fluffy, directly write icons with THEM!
      4. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 10 October 2015 15: 19 New
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        Back in 2012, after Russia held the capital's velvet revolution

        Am I missing something in recent history?
        1. KuzkinaMother
          KuzkinaMother 10 October 2015 15: 50 New
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          Is this the author about the swamp, or what?
          There was a square, but the liberals were quickly led away from there!
          But they did and did, all the same different things ....
        2. udincev
          udincev 10 October 2015 17: 06 New
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          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Am I missing something in recent history?

          You live in it (in the newest) (right every day).
          I don’t see what was quoted wrong, only it was necessary to bring a little further
          velvet revolution by all rules, but she did not obey
          Russia did not obey the velvet, carried out according to all the rules. What's wrong? Revolutions do not all reach their goal safely, even colored and velvet. This revolution of them failed.
          And one more thing: slightly different things are the area and the revolution. Have you noticed? For some reason, not everyone sees.
      5. assam4
        assam4 10 October 2015 20: 18 New
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        Search for the "Russian idea". Ilyin, Gumilyov and others like them.

        Here are some of Ilyin’s quotes: “What did Hitler do?
        He stopped the Bolshevik process in Germany and thereby rendered the greatest service to all of Europe. ”

        “Fascism arose as a reaction to Bolshevism, as a concentration of state security forces to the right.
        During the onset of left chaos and left totalitarianism - this was a healthy, necessary and inevitable phenomenon. Such a concentration will continue to be carried out, even in the most democratic states: at the time of national danger, the healthy forces of the people will always concentrate in the direction of the protective and dictatorial. So it was in ancient Rome, it was so in the new Europe, it will be so in the future.
        <...>
        Opposing leftist totalitarianism, fascism was, furthermore, right, since it was looking for just socio-political reforms "...
        1. 34 region
          34 region 10 October 2015 22: 28 New
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          Hitler stopped the Bolsheviks? But what about the Nazis and commies as regards the socialization of the means of production? It seems not really the difference was? The question is different. In the 29th year the crisis hit, and in the 33rd the beer rebel came to power. By chance? Just like today, the crisis, ISIS. Vague suspicions torment me.
      6. 34 region
        34 region 10 October 2015 21: 41 New
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        Implement philosophy on a stable economic basis? Then I do not agree with you brother. Economics based on philosophy. Everything for the country, everything for the people, or everything I love? Based on these philosophies, we can understand where what kind of economy will be.
      7. sanyavolhv
        sanyavolhv 10 October 2015 21: 59 New
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        health
        already a thousand times I read similar fabrications about the national idea.
        how annoying all sorts of homegrown philosophers annoy .... .... keep silent about how. minus the author.
        and you minus. you are on the same platform of materialism. can you tell me what is more important in a computer "hardware" or "PROG"? by some ridiculous accident, in some ancient place, they began to consider "iron" the most important. then HATE appeared !!! hate is the most destructive way of thinking.
        since that time all "THEY ARE CHILDREN" on earth began to hate. Hated to this day. there were restrictions for hatred: do not steal, do not kill, do not do that do not do that ..... I note that it was especially unwise that it was invented when there were no baptism in the project. WHEN THERE WERE NO SEMITS, even. on mount sinai, man got it? do not tell my slippers.
        is a national idea possible? NO !! only a universal idea can exist. What can be a universal idea? there is the concept of ordered diversity. have not heard? so it has not been published. (want to give the children an excuse?) analogy with God, man as God. not "they are children," but man as a god.
        you will immediately remember how an atom, an electron or something else is equated with planetary systems. you will not come close to the concept of ordered diversity by remembering this. just because you are of course thinking about hardware. How does the hardware work? Rodnovers and neo-pagans will start to spread rot on me. Vedas are already distorted software. and of course only "me" .....)))) really funny?
        and so, a universal idea is possible! and she can be born in Russia. and Russia can promote this idea. is someone ready to do this? DOUBT.
        I do not answer the posts addressed to me.
      8. captain
        captain 11 October 2015 19: 03 New
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        I did not understand the meaning of the article, if I write about the unnecessary theory of Marxism, then it seems to be right, but if about necessity, then it seems to be right. So what is the article about?
      9. Air Force captain
        Air Force captain 13 October 2015 09: 16 New
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        The idea is, the original diversity of the world order ... you can’t get into the existing system of values ​​and morals and break it under your own template ... humanity has not yet matured to a single state EARTH. And the pattern of American shit democracy doesn’t fit 90% of the countries of the world ... they don’t see this point blank, so I have to snarl (so far softly) .... but not all are so tolerant and peace-loving as the Russians and Chinese ... Time will come and someone someday he really cares for them ... so much so that September 11th will seem to them a cracker for the new year ...
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    2. Yars
      Yars 10 October 2015 15: 21 New
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      Quote: igordok
      Strange article, many letters. I did not understand the idea of ​​the article, but after reading
      and having arranged the Kiev junta Ilovaisk a year ago, Russia did not begin to develop a “march to Kiev”

      article set a minus.

      after reading the article one gets the impression that the liberal wrote it, again Russia is credited with the conflict in Ukraine .... the article is also a minus!
    3. tovarisch
      tovarisch 10 October 2015 15: 26 New
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      I do not understand - do not minus! Pass by. There are those who understand.
      Your comment also did not understand therefore - minus.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 10 October 2015 16: 27 New
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        Quote: tovarisch
        I do not understand - do not minus! Pass by. There are those who understand.
        Your comment also did not understand therefore - minus.

        And you have a nickname with errors ... and also a minus. wassat
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 11 October 2015 05: 35 New
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          Quote: lelikas
          And you, a nickname with errors ... and also a minus

          And you have a nickname with a Baltic ducky (sprat). Also minus? Let's not get personal - there is something to say, speak on business. Negating for a nickname is stupid.
      2. Yars
        Yars 11 October 2015 17: 03 New
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        Quote: tovarisch
        I do not understand - do not minus! Pass by. There are those who understand.
        Your comment also did not understand therefore - minus.

        Compared to you, I perfectly understand the tasks assigned to you by the liberals, but you do not need to understand the liberals, you are not paid for it from behind the hill
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 10 October 2015 15: 33 New
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      The author has cereal in his head. Hence such inconspicuous articles request
    5. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 16: 30 New
      +2
      Sorry, Not at all in the subject. Just Russia 24. France and Egypt formalized a deal on the Mistrals. Signed in Cairo. Once again I apologize.
    6. Alexl
      Alexl 10 October 2015 16: 40 New
      +3
      Those. is it right that they did not throw off the fascist junta at their borders?
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 10 October 2015 19: 05 New
        +3
        And the whole secret is that the villains are in power - that's why ideology is banned. Because the national idea lies on the surface - a fair and independent society. But this means the end of the current government. That is why they try to push the Orthodox bullshit in the role of ideology - it promotes humility and patience ... So as not to go into details, just believe and do whatever they say.
        1. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 10 October 2015 20: 30 New
          0
          Quote: Basarev
          forbidden ideology

          Belonging to any ideology in Russia is voluntary.
          Forced to adopt an ideology is prohibited. And this, in my opinion, is absolutely correct.
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 October 2015 20: 39 New
          +3
          Basarev
          I agree with you!
          Our society is no longer even becoming feudal, but slaveholding ...
          But the people in the majority continue to shout "urrrya" to their tyrants request
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 10 October 2015 21: 06 New
          10
          Quote: Basarev
          That is why we are trying to push the Orthodox bullshit in the role of ideology

          Especially this one?:
    7. Alexkorzun
      Alexkorzun 10 October 2015 18: 28 New
      +3
      A Jew wrote an article. I have nothing against all Jews, but some are fornication ...
      Therefore, I express my own "evaluative" opinion: The article is a complete shout!
    8. MaxSanbl4
      MaxSanbl4 10 October 2015 18: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: igordok
      Strange article, many letters. I did not understand the idea of ​​the article, but after reading
      and having arranged the Kiev junta Ilovaisk a year ago, Russia did not begin to develop a “march to Kiev”

      article set a minus.

      After reading this, I decided to put a minus, but then I still read it to the end, in the end I put a plus, with the exception of some purely subjective points of the author’s opinion, I generally agree with the idea of ​​the article.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 10 October 2015 19: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: MaxSanbl4
        with the exception of some purely subjective points of the author’s opinion, I generally agree with the idea of ​​the article

        Hang a white ribbon around your neck and be proud of the article. Russia is something not understood, which should not be disturbed. Hang your white ribbon around your neck, if so brave
        1. MaxSanbl4
          MaxSanbl4 10 October 2015 20: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Tusv
          Quote: MaxSanbl4
          with the exception of some purely subjective points of the author’s opinion, I generally agree with the idea of ​​the article

          Hang a white ribbon around your neck and be proud of the article. Russia is something not understood, which should not be disturbed. Hang your white ribbon around your neck, if so brave

          We didn’t drink it on the Brudershaft, dear, please poke your loved ones, this is first. And secondly, about white ribbons, you can talk with your reflection in the mirror, for example, if such a need arose. In none of my comments on this resource did I give a reason to accuse me of involvement in these representatives of our fellow citizens, because your accusations are unfounded. You can be proud as much as you wish, but please refrain from advising me what I am proud of, I will somehow deal with this myself. Moreover, there was no talk of pride at all, you do not need to hang up labels invented by yourself, apparently from a lack of understanding written by other people, well, no one will help you, I mean understanding, because it is impossible at this stage of development of brain transplant medicine.
          I agreed with the main idea of ​​the article, which I really agree with in general, as I grew up on the works of Snegov and Efremov, with the exception of the Strugatsky (they didn’t hook then for some reason). I repeat - in general, but with reservations, about which I also wrote. And if you do not know how to read, or understand what is written, then you should not insult those whom you did not understand, misunderstanding is your problem, do not transform it into inadequate assessments of other people.
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    9. Maj.
      Maj. 10 October 2015 19: 50 New
      0
      Look at the name of the author of the article and everything will become clear.
    10. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 10 October 2015 20: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: igordok
      Strange article, many letters. I did not understand the idea of ​​the article, but after reading
      and having arranged the Kiev junta Ilovaisk a year ago, Russia did not begin to develop a “march to Kiev”

      article set a minus.

      Well, in vain they put a minus. Do you yourself know what Russia is striving for? What a brighter future? If you know, write. And if you do not know and did not understand, then minus what for? Because you yourself don’t know something?
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 10 October 2015 21: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Алексей_К
        What a brighter future?

        Dear Alexey! When again and again they begin to poke under the nose covered with dust and cobwebs "BRIGHT FUTURE", nothing but irritation it does not cause!
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 10 October 2015 23: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: Алексей_К
          What a brighter future?

          Dear Alexey! When again and again they begin to poke under the nose covered with dust and cobwebs "BRIGHT FUTURE", nothing but irritation it does not cause!

          1. You, as always, want to distort everything. The phrase "bright future" was mentioned by the author of the article, and I just repeated it;
          2. How do you know what meaning the author of the article put into this phrase "bright future", he does not explain anything there;
          3. Don't you believe in a better future for Russia? If you believe, then this is the "bright future";
          4. Do you really hate me so much that you cannot help clinging to my words and not misinterpret their meanings? How angry you are!
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 11 October 2015 07: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Алексей_К
            How angry you are!

            Why are you so? I was not going to "misinterpret" anything and I treat you normally! smileDon't look for a catch where there is none. Just the hackneyed phrase "bright future" evokes a backlash from many! This is what we are talking about! Believing in the best is characteristic of everyone, unless of course he suffers from chronic pessimism. And to the person whom they hate, they do not address - respected. So, all the best hi
    11. Civil
      Civil 10 October 2015 22: 58 New
      0
      Nothing to eat but need a great idea))) this is our way
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  2. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 14: 37 New
    +4
    What is the way to describe the world, what are the aspirations and dreams for the masses, what new way of life will it bring to earthlings.

    Nobody knows that ... Even we are in Russia! But judging by everything that is being done ... Something is mysterious and unique in us!
  3. Vadim237
    Vadim237 10 October 2015 14: 38 New
    +7
    I would like to look at these 20 year old students to whom banks give loans under 200 billion.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 October 2015 15: 09 New
      +8
      Vadim, were you banned in Google?

      Quote: http://www.stav.kp.ru/daily/26428.4/3300253/
      The twenty-year-old son of the Dagestan billionaire and senator of the Federation Council, Suleiman Kerimov, Said wants to buy the largest gold mining company in Russia - Polyus Gold. Now a young businessman, according to the company’s website, already owns 40% of Polyus Gold
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 October 2015 19: 23 New
        0
        Well, we wish him good luck in this business.
      2. bastard
        bastard 10 October 2015 21: 44 New
        0
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        The twenty-year-old son of the Dagestan billionaire and senator of the Federation Council, Suleiman Kerimov, Said wants to buy the largest gold mining company in Russia - Polyus Gold. Now a young businessman, according to the company’s website, already owns 40% of Polyus Gold

        Interestingly, did this dzhigit serve in the army or was he evaded by a military commissar? I'm just interested, for fun. Or did dad immediately buy general uniforms for him?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 October 2015 22: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: villain
          Or will dad immediately buy general uniforms for him?

          for such grandmothers, he will buy an emu a whole island and appoint it as the sheikh, in which yes
  4. morozik
    morozik 10 October 2015 14: 41 New
    21
    what kind of Russia to live in? Let’s sort it out gradually ...

    stolen and vast network:
    Mind does not understand Russia ...

    It seems that our developers of military equipment and weapons are a little scoffing at their foreign colleagues. In the sense of the names of the technology they create.
    Germany has a Leopard tank. Israel has "Merkava" (War Chariot). The US has the Abrams tank, and France has the Leclerc, both in honor of famous generals.
    And we have the T-72B “Slingshot”. In honor of the slingshot. It is not clear why, but it is clear that KVN could only be born with us.
    Or, for example, the Americans take and call their self-propelled howitzer "Paladin." And the British call their "Archer" (Archer). All the way.

    Here our people come up and say: look here. Here are the self-propelled howitzers 2C1 “Gvozdika”, 2C3 “Acacia”, the self-propelled mortar 2C4 “Tulip” and the long-range self-propelled guns 2C5 “Hyacinth” and 2C7 “Peony”, capable of firing nuclear shells. Please smell the bouquet.

    Here the Americans take and call their anti-tank guided missile "Dragon." And the other is called "Shillaila" (Club). Everything is logical.

    Here our people come up and say: take a look. Here are the 9M14M Malyutka anti-tank missiles, the 9M123 Chrysanthemum anti-tank missiles, and the Metis anti-tank missiles with the Mulat night sight. And so that it would become completely incomprehensible and scary to you, we still had a rocket called "Edge".

    And so you think more, we called the heavy tank support combat vehicle “Frame”. And so that your head is spinning, we called the latest coastal defense missile system "Ball." And so that you have an idiotic smile on your turnip, our most powerful 30-barrel self-propelled flamethrower in the world is called TOS-1 "Pinocchio". And so that you could be taken away right now to our madhouse, our GP-30 grenade launcher has the name “Shoe”.

    From the last, even I, a habitual person, get fucked up ...

    And if something, that is, another 82 mm automatic mortar 2B9 “Cornflower”, company mortar 2B14 “Tray”, mortar 2C12 “Sani”, active wire guard system “Cactus” (5000 Volts on the wire), intercontinental ballistic missile “Courier” with a nuclear charge, intercontinental ballistic missile RT-23 UTTH Molodets with ten nuclear charges, atomic submarine of project 705 Lira, artillery fire control system Kapustnik, artillery radar target detection system Zoo, Fantasmagoria missile control system ", A self-propelled gun" Condenser "and a grenade for the 7P24" Launcher "grenade launcher.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 10 October 2015 14: 49 New
      +9
      You still remember BMD "Sadovnitsa" for them.
      I will not post - there is a whole verse on this subject.
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 October 2015 15: 04 New
        +5
        Quote: lelikas
        You still remember BMD "Sadovnitsa" for them.
        I will not post - there is a whole verse on this subject.

        -----------------------
        Hmm, like that, you happen to be, you sit down to rest under the "Topol" ... laughing
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 10 October 2015 15: 00 New
      +7
      Quote: morozik
      Here our people come up and say: look here. Here are the self-propelled howitzers 2C1 “Gvozdika”, 2C3 “Acacia”, the self-propelled mortar 2C4 “Tulip” and the long-range self-propelled guns 2C5 “Hyacinth” and 2C7 “Peony”, capable of firing nuclear shells. Please smell the bouquet.



      All this speaks of the subtlety and poetry of the Russian soul ... We have designers and scientists - Poets with a capital letter ...

      And some "hegemons" with their meager minds cannot understand Russia ...

      PS I forgot about the Pioneer missile system, which at one time was liquidated to the hum of the staff .... Pioneer ... Be ready! Always ready !! ... Right now, as a vioneer !!! And on the site of some tectonic-geological formation - a strait ...
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 October 2015 15: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: veksha50
        .. Right now as a pioneer !!! And in place of some tectonic-geological formation - the strait ...

        -----------------------
        I ought to call something "Yellowstone" ...
    3. Oleko
      Oleko 10 October 2015 16: 06 New
      +3
      The names are not invented by chance. And they come up in such a way that it would be impossible to understand what the speech is about. This is for intelligence. I was surprised myself, and then I read the explanation. Like "Alex to Eustace." Is it possible to understand, having heard the product "cactus", that we are talking about "active underwater protection (5000 V on the wire)? I worked as a test engineer for neutron fuses for atomic charges. And in my service certificate it was written:" Test engineer , Products No. ... No. ... No. ... ". Only without names, just numbers.
    4. bocsman
      bocsman 10 October 2015 19: 50 New
      +3
      artillery radar target detection system "Zoo",
      Everything is clear here, "leopards" and other menagerie are associative. Tigers in a cage!
    5. Dart2027
      Dart2027 10 October 2015 19: 50 New
      +3
      Well, as you do not understand - this is romance and poetry. Even during the Second World War, what was our MLRS called? Katyushas.
    6. 34 region
      34 region 10 October 2015 22: 36 New
      0
      Ballistic Courier Rocket! The courier will deliver on time! Super humor !!!
  5. avvg
    avvg 10 October 2015 14: 43 New
    +5
    You Must Believe in Russia! (F. Tyutchev) The world still has to thank us for what Russia is doing in the Big East.
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 10 October 2015 15: 03 New
      +8
      Quote: avvg
      One must believe in Russia!
      Mind does not understand Russia,
      No yardstick to measure:
      She’s special to become -
      You can only believe in Russia.
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      2. creak
        creak 10 October 2015 17: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: WUA 518
        Mind does not understand Russia


        But another poet wrote about this:
        Already time mother edrena
        Intellect to understand ...
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 10 October 2015 19: 54 New
      +1
      The world still thank us for what Russia is doing in the Big East. ,,
      you are not tired of ,, thanks, ”people don’t have any thanks, just give it now.
  6. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 14: 43 New
    17
    Maybe this is the whole point of ours ... There are a lot of energy and plans, it is boring for us in Russia to live according to the "consumerist" plan of the West .. So we begin to rebel and fight!
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 10 October 2015 15: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Maybe this is our whole point ...



      Mdya ... Lumberjacks ... And after that someone wants to fight with us ??? Yes, this is a dIdIottom to be !!!

      PS Such a movie would scroll to different Obama-Kerry-Carter-McCain ...
      1. Temples
        Temples 10 October 2015 16: 12 New
        +3
        Hats off MIKHALYCH.
        Oil painting!
        Boring, from that all the time in the search.
        And there, who studied what, who splits firewood with a ladle, and who, as they say, kakly "bullets" with rockets (when I first read this word, I almost pissed with laughter - "bullets").
        We have different fun laughing
        Nehru disturb us and advise.
        And we will not offend the child.
  7. venaya
    venaya 10 October 2015 14: 45 New
    0
    What Russia will we live in now

    Yes, satya is a little foggy. Maybe it should be called differently? Most likely it was better to talk about the culture of the country in which we live, there would be more answers. And so the author’s reasoning is not very clear.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 10 October 2015 15: 07 New
      14
      Quote: venaya
      And so the author’s reasoning is not very clear.



      Thinking that we - society, not government - need a common goal, a common idea ...

      As I understand it, the author tried to prove how people and rulers are NOT united ... And for a powerful state, unity is needed ... And in this case, the fault in the lack of unity between the people and the boyars does not lie with the people ...

      The people are ready to believe and trust ... But with the current boyars, this trust quickly fades away, like shagreen skin ...
      1. venaya
        venaya 10 October 2015 18: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: veksha50
        ... Thinking that we - society, not government - need a common goal, a common idea ...
        As I understand it, the author tried to prove how people and rulers are NOT united ... But for a powerful state, unity is needed ...

        As you can tell, the question raised by the author of the article is so huge that it is physically impossible to stick it into a short journal article, no matter what genius the author is. Such issues are usually dealt with throughout life, and this is normal. It is almost impossible to grasp the immensity. I personally could write several books on this subject, it is only important that they be read, and this is difficult. Briefly, I’ll just say that culture is needed, only culture with a capital letter, and they won’t be allowed to do this, there are too many interested in the opposite, for financial reasons.
  8. halzan7
    halzan7 10 October 2015 14: 48 New
    -10
    article full of nonsense drunk but "smart" Indian ..... fool
  9. pat
    pat 10 October 2015 14: 53 New
    -3
    Great Peter, worried about the "greatness of the state", pushed the development of the Russian economy 200 years ago, and reduced the population by 25%.
    When a person determines the goal of life, then you need to act according to the formula - "through his greatness to the greatness of the state"
    Accordingly - restore order in the country and then think about the order in the world.
    The fact that we are tough guys is great, but when these guys come home and there "roll the ball" it's terrible. When the government "patches the country's budget" by devaluing the ruble and reducing pensions, these are crimes.
    And article +, for touching upon a sore point.
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 10 October 2015 21: 40 New
      +1
      And where did you get the statistics on GDP and demography of Russia and Europe for 1682-1725?
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 10 October 2015 22: 29 New
      -1
      Quote: pat
      reduced population by 25%

      Nonsense. Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 10 October 2015 22: 42 New
        0
        Yes, and that is probably why whole areas have fallen into disrepair.
        This comrade of traditional disorientation still closed the baths, and therefore, besides the usual anti-Russian terror, there were also epidemics because of the unsanitary conditions introduced by him according to the European model ...
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 11 October 2015 06: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Scraptor
          Yes, and that’s probably why whole areas have fallen into disrepair

          What?
          Quote: Scraptor
          traditional disorientation still covered the baths

          It is when? He shaved his beards, introduced European clothes, he couldn’t hear about the baths.
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 11 October 2015 11: 08 New
            0
            Many. In general, the country's population decreased by a third.

            Bad, Maybe at least read? No - type in google.
            Is this clothing? Or an outfit before homosexual role-playing games? He tore the beards (for those who did not shave) ...

            PS. Have you been to them (saunas)? lol
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 11 October 2015 12: 59 New
              0
              Quote: Scraptor
              Many. In general, the country's population decreased by a third.

              Specifically. What areas and where does the information about a third come from.
              Quote: Scraptor
              Bad, Maybe at least read?

              So where is it?
              Quote: Scraptor
              Is this clothing?

              Are you sitting in a caftan now?
              1. Scraptor
                Scraptor 11 October 2015 15: 38 New
                0
                Quote: Dart2027
                Specifically. What areas and where does the information about a third come from.

                Specifically, why are you questioning, and where did the other information come from?

                Quote: Dart2027
                So where is it?

                but about the fact that homosexuality and degenerates happen - didn’t you hear? and the first thing they wean is afraid ...
                Like unwashed homeless people are not afraid to wallow in it.

                Quote: Dart2027
                Are you sitting in a caftan now?

                I walk in a sheepskin coat, and do not freeze in a lady's dress in a long wig and stockings, ready for "intercourse", like some ...
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 11 October 2015 16: 14 New
                  0
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  Specifically, why are you questioning, and where did the other information come from?

                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.

                  For example from here
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B8_%
                  D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B2_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%
                  D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8#.D0.A3.D1.87.D1.91.D1.82_.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.81.D0.B5.D0.BB.D0.B5.
                  D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.8F_.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.B8_.D0.9F.D0.B5.D1.82.D1.80.D0.B5_I
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  but about the fact that homosexuality and degenerates are

                  So where does it say that Peter the Great closed the baths.
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  I walk in a short fur coat

                  In the apartment? The clothes took a modern look based on what was invented in Europe.
                  1. Scraptor
                    Scraptor 11 October 2015 21: 02 New
                    +1
                    So the yards considered go population?

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    So where does it say that Peter the Great closed the baths.

                    in the same place where he was a homosexual and ... lol
                    "Europe" was not washed until the 20th century! Moreover, I wasn’t soared. And it's not steaming now (except for dates).
                    He introduced everything according to the European model, sniff!
                    He slept in the closet (because he was crazy) like the Germans and all that ...

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    In the apartment? The clothes took a modern look based on what was invented in Europe.

                    Do you go In women - yes, maybe laughing
                    Men's clothing has taken on a modern look based on what happened in Russia (this is also Europe). For example, the soldier’s uniform of the PMV is exactly streletsky, and not powder buccles, camisoles and stockings from the dressing room from ...
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 11 October 2015 22: 36 New
                      0
                      Quote: Scraptor
                      So the yards considered go population?

                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.

                      Well, since before it the population was not really calculated, it is difficult to talk about its reduction.
                      Quote: Scraptor
                      in the same place where he was homosexual

                      Well, where is it said?
                      Quote: Scraptor
                      soldier uniform PMV - exactly the same arrow

                      Really?
                      1. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 12 October 2015 01: 54 New
                        0
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Well, since before it the population was not really calculated, it is difficult to talk about its reduction.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.

                        Well, and for a long time you can repeat this ... designed for suckers?
                        The number of yards was why it would decrease, it decreased, and this was reflected in the census.

                        By the way, everything was written in church books.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        in the same place where he was homosexual
                        Well, where is it said?

                        It is written ... But didn’t you know? lol

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Really?

                        Yes, everything has returned to normal according to practicality and climatic norm. Only without a berdysh (this is a weapon) ... Is it really leggings (the same tights), or a ladies' camisole with stockings and a long wig with a pigtail, curlers and powder? wassat
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 12 October 2015 19: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Well, and for a long time you can repeat this ... designed for suckers? The number of yards was why it decreased, it decreased and this was reflected in the census

                        Well, and for a long time you can repeat this ... designed for suckers? From reducing the number of fences, the population does not change, and taxes are paid less.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        It is written ... But didn’t you know?

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically please
                      3. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 12 October 2015 19: 50 New
                        0
                        The number of yards (rather than fences) was why it would decrease, it decreased, and this was reflected in the census.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased.

                        So he first copied the yards or the population? lol


                        By the way, everything was written in church books.


                        And there too. More specifically, google "Peter's homosexuality", "Peter closed the baths" and things like that ...
                        In fact, the fact that he was not the right person in his figure, behavior, actions, and especially the way he dressed his amusing soldiers in a ladies' dress should be clear to anyone normal to a person (not a child). Children usually simply have an unconscious disgust for this, which is then polished by the Soviet go to the Russian school (textbooks, movies about zomboyaschik), but when they grow up then usually everything must falls into place ... If you didn’t fall, then from here - the conclusion ... repeat
                      4. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 13 October 2015 18: 57 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        So he first copied the yards or the population?

                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        And there too. More specifically - google

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      5. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 13 October 2015 22: 56 New
                        0
                        So he himself first copied the yards or the population?
                        What lyad suddenly then, and because of what, the number of yards decreased when they began to enumerate the population and not the yards?
                        And if so, which conclusion follows from this?
                        And why "do I have to say?"
                        By the way, everything was written down in church books anyway ...

                        Specifically - where it is written that he closed the baths, he was a psycho and an evil homosexual (pederast is not the right word) ... the same technology is used now when people are being baked, and in prisons. And also that he did not dress according to gender and in a cold climate out of season.
                        Specifically, what is higher with the conclusion? He is not phenotypically disgusting to you? Maybe even enjoyable? repeat
                      6. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 14 October 2015 18: 54 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        So he himself first copied the yards or the population?

                        about it the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Specifically - where it is written that he closed the baths, he was a psycho and an evil homosexual

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      7. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 15 October 2015 05: 23 New
                        0
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Needless to say, when he ordered a census population, then it turned out that the quantity courtyards

                        You must Fedya, you must... bully
                        So courtyards texted or population? repeat
                        Well, and which conclusion follows from this?

                        By the way, everything was written down in church books anyway ...

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Specifically, please.

                        Specifically, what is higher with the conclusion? He is phenotypic to you not opposed? Maybe even pleasant love soldier ?
                        Like "dressingn_soldat_v_zhenskoe "? wassat
                      8. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 15 October 2015 19: 40 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        So the yards corresponded or the population?

                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Specifically, what is higher with the conclusion?

                        Your perception problems are your own business.
                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      9. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 16 October 2015 12: 58 New
                        0
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Do I need to say

                        "So tell me!" - what conclusion follows from this? Sami ... Here .. Or here. Or here and here ...

                        Census of Yards he ordered to conduct, or a census ???
                        And how did this affect the heads?
                        Or just yours?

                        For the purpose of "tax inconvenience" the number of households was overstated earlier? Or is the people just a third of its domestic and foreign policy extinct? (including the desolation / reduction of the number of households, villages, and entire provinces in Russia).

                        By the way, everything was written down in the church books anyway ...

                        therefore - not "for the first time".

                        Problems with perception in you, as well as with disorientation (and in the world of fashion, too).
                      10. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 16 October 2015 18: 10 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        He ordered a census of households, or a census of the population ???

                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Problems with perception in you, as well as with disorientation (and in the world of fashion, too).
                        Nueto, you have a sore point. So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      11. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 17 October 2015 15: 26 New
                        0
                        By the way, everything was written down in the church books anyway ...
                        therefore - not "for the first time".


                        Quote: Dart2027
                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.

                        Where it is painted how he dressed his soldiers ...
                        This is a sore subject for you. Like this:
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.

                        And which conclusion follows from this? In your own words?

                        Or For the purpose of "tax inconvenience" the number of households was previously overstated?
                        Y / N?

                        Or is the people just a third of their domestic and foreign policies extinct? (including the desolation / reduction in the number of yards, villages, and entire provinces in Russia).
                        Y / N?

                        In St. Petersburg, they like to pamper with your puzzles like that. Are you not from there?
                      12. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 17 October 2015 22: 32 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        And which conclusion follows from this? In your own words?
                        Or For the purpose of "tax inconvenience" the number of households was previously overstated?
                        Y / N?

                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Where it is painted how he dressed his soldiers ...

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      13. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 17 October 2015 22: 50 New
                        0
                        "Before him population counted by yards - one yard was the unit for paying taxes. "
                        .
                        Did people count taxes or yards?
                        .
                        when he ordered a census,
                        it turned out that the number of yards has not increased, but decreased.
                        .
                        the population counted and not the yards?
                        why before this it was necessary to overestimate the number of yards? to pay more taxes?
                        .
                        After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Everything in church books has always been scandalous.

                        They count cattle over their heads.


                        Quote: Dart2027

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.

                        There ...

                        Klimov, for example.
                        Is Sasha the Macedonian gayness loading? he was also "great".
                      14. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 18 October 2015 15: 16 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Did people count taxes or yards?

                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes. Needless to say, when he ordered a population census, it turned out that the number of households did not increase, but decreased. After that, people for the first time began to count on the head.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Everything in church books has always been scandalous.

                        And before him, the tax authorities summed it up?
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Klimov, for example.

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      15. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 19 October 2015 01: 18 New
                        0
                        Are you stuck? In your own words ...

                        And before him there were statistics.

                        Link? It’s better to read everything there ...
                      16. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 19 October 2015 19: 38 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Are you stuck? In your own words

                        Well, you just can’t read it. Counted in the yards. The census began and the landowners, and sometimes the peasants themselves began to unite the yards among themselves. The king was reported and he decided to take action.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        And before him, the tax authorities summed it up?

                        And why would they do this, if they were going to file not from each separately, but from the yards.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Link? Better read everything there

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                      17. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 20 October 2015 05: 45 New
                        0
                        No, it's you to understand. That there Petrovsky Kokuisky LGBT simply scoffs at the logic all the way.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Before him, the population was considered in the yards - one yard was a unit for paying taxes.

                        Instead of "population" should be "taxes", if you ...

                        The yards did not unite as before, although
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        one yard was a unit for paying taxes.


                        And how do you unite the yards among themselves? Have you ever been to a village?
                        Just ruin and desolation came.
                        Several houses shared baths because he imposed draconian tax on them (those that he did not close).

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And before him, the tax authorities summed it up?

                        It was yours and not mine ...
                        For statistics - of course. The same militia was not exhibited by the yard (of one).
                        Only not tax, but they could check.

                        Klimov, for example (see above).
                      18. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 20 October 2015 19: 20 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        No, it's you to understand. That there Petrovsky Kokuisky LGBT simply scoffs at the logic all the way.

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        And how do you unite the yards among themselves?

                        By removing the fence.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        For statistics - of course. The same militia did not expose the yard (one)

                        What kind of militia? Recruits or what? So before Peter, there was no such service.
                        And where are the statistics from? Do you know what a community is?
                      19. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 21 October 2015 10: 12 New
                        0
                        So you understand what you quoted?

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        By removing the fence.

                        That's awesome! laughing
                        Even now, in villages outside the dachas there are not many of them.

                        The Russian kingdom did not wage wars before him? And there was no military planning?
                        Well, explain ...
                      20. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 21 October 2015 19: 11 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        So you understand what you quoted?

                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        They are now in the villages outside the country house

                        Now - three hundred years later.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        The Russian kingdom did not wage wars before him?

                        You will not believe it, but the USSR also waged wars without recruitment.
                      21. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 22 October 2015 02: 58 New
                        0
                        In the same place where it is drawn what he dressed his "amusing" soldiers.

                        Three hundred years ago there were no cottages with fences at all.

                        And it also did not carry out military planning?
                      22. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 22 October 2015 19: 03 New
                        0
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        In the same place where it is drawn what he dressed his "amusing" soldiers
                        So where does it say that he closed the baths and was gay? Specifically, please.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        there were no summer houses with fences
                        There were peasant households.
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        And it also did not carry out military planning?
                        There was no recruitment.
                      23. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 23 November 2015 13: 55 New
                        0
                        In the same place where it is drawn what he dressed his "amusing" soldiers.
                        Is this how Peter dressed the soldier in "woman's"? laughing

                        Do you know what a peasant's yard is?
                        The yard is not a garden.

                        Recruitment is not military planning, it is simply anti-people to take a soldier (dress in a woman's) and tear him away from his family for 25 years or more. This, with "his" people, was nowhere else in the world! bully
  • Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 10 October 2015 14: 54 New
    14
    But the thing is that you still have to invent it. The society is looking for the meaning of its existence in the same way as an individual person - and in the absence of a clear vector of development, it also self-destructs itself (in a purely demographic way, for example).

    Perhaps it will be necessary to come up with a common dream after the current round of world redistribution - since it didn’t work out instead. But this work is still inevitable.

    The point is that work is inevitable. And it was not for nothing that an interest in the Stalinist times, the times of great accomplishments, for some, aroused in society. For others, such as the senator from the Arkhangelsk region, a similar interest is like a sickle in one place. No wonder he proposed "equating the rehabilitation of Stalinism with terrorism." Bad people say that "democratic values" will be completely destroyed and a more rigid system will come to replace it ... but with clearly expressed goals that bind most of society. It is not for nothing that so many alternatives have appeared in science fiction, considering the Stalinist period. And the sooner this unifying idea appears, the faster the country's development will proceed. There will be fewer managers, more engineers, doctors, teachers
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 10 October 2015 17: 01 New
      +8
      Quote: Aleksandr1959
      . There will be fewer managers more engineers, doctors, teachers



      ... more agronomists, machine operators, livestock breeders, steelworkers, turners, - in general - the labor, skilled people, on whom the economy and wealth of both the country and the people depend ...

      And when this tribe is reborn, and the results of its labor go to the heaps of a handful of rich people in lion's share, and will be distributed so that the working people (that scientist, that surgeon, that tractor-combine operator) would live so that they would live and work and would like to continue - this can be the goal ...

      However, it’s not common, because the boyars have such a goal and idea ...
    2. palm
      palm 10 October 2015 18: 39 New
      -11
      Stalinism and Hitlerism, communism and Nazism in their embodiment are one-man-hated teachings calling for the destruction of those who do not agree with your opinion.
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 10 October 2015 18: 50 New
        +7
        Stalinism and Hitlerism, communism and Nazism in their embodiment are one-man-hated teachings calling for the destruction of those who do not agree with your opinion

        And you read a lot of the works of JV Stalin to draw such conclusions? How often writes ancient, again another "victim of the exam"?
        1. Scraptor
          Scraptor 10 October 2015 19: 39 New
          +1
          You are wrong - it read "the catechism ... in the USSR", most likely in manuscripts. lol
        2. palm
          palm 10 October 2015 23: 40 New
          0
          thank God at least not a victim of Kremlin propaganda
        3. vassa
          vassa 10 October 2015 23: 52 New
          -1
          And visit Solovki, "victim of hurray-patriotism" ...
      2. sds87
        sds87 10 October 2015 19: 29 New
        +6
        Are you sho? Is capitalism a peacemaking education that sows good all over the world? Do not write nonsense. Stalinism and communism with Hitlerism (why not Nazism?) Can only be compared by a fat bourgeois, shaking for the stolen from the people and the country. And who carries the values ​​of democracy around the world and destroys all those who do not want to live under this regime? The USA is the most "peacekeeping", capitalist country in the world ...
        1. palm
          palm 10 October 2015 23: 46 New
          -1
          Yes, yes, soviet socialism carried a lot of good around the world, but it didn’t convey anything anywhere. As there at Vysotsky, Sam Brook is our Guinean friend.
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 11 October 2015 01: 57 New
            0
            he saved half-dishes from hunger, others, on the contrary, were engaged in the spread of the infection as before opium in China ...
        2. vassa
          vassa 10 October 2015 23: 54 New
          +1
          And whose concentration camp was better?
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 11 October 2015 01: 59 New
            +1
            in Soviet under Stalin, pipes did not seem to be "smoked" ...
      3. Tusv
        Tusv 10 October 2015 19: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Palm
        Stalinism and Hitlerism, Communism and Nazism in their embodiment

        Just read the history of the Russian state. Any doubts about Stalinism, Prince Vladimir, Rev. Sergius and the like
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 10 October 2015 21: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Palm
        Stalinism and hitlerism , communism and Nazism


        Hmm ... again the exam ...

        Open at least this beloved Wiki by so many and ask a question specifically about "Hitlerism" ...

        You can be identified by your fornication by Shukshin, "He came - shit - ran away" ...
      5. morozik
        morozik 10 October 2015 22: 39 New
        0
        understood what you wrote? WE ARE MISSORS FROM STALINISM, and your guitar was crushed ... and not whine anymore
        1. palm
          palm 11 October 2015 00: 02 New
          0
          Quote: morozik
          understood what you wrote? WE ARE MISSORS FROM STALINISM, and your guitar was crushed ... and not whine anymore
          . Teach. Dzhugashvili’s teaching now, except that you pick a dump. there is a place for him. But comrade Hitler was not defeated by the enemy of the people, comrade Stalin and the beloved Stalinist commissars. A simple great Russian people
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 11 October 2015 02: 05 New
            0
            well, you turned almost everything into a landfill, so maybe it’s so ... Stalin was not your friend and he defeated the enemies of the people who tormented the great Russian people and under the Trotskyists almost ate it at all, the Russians themselves could not have freed themselves / them ...


          2. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 11 October 2015 03: 42 New
            0
            Quote: Palm
            But comrade Hitler was not defeated by the enemy of the people, comrade Stalin and the beloved Stalinist commissars. A simple great Russian people
            The simple great Russian people won?

            This means that 100500 milen of Solzhenitsyn's "victims of Stalinism" were repressed by the simple great Russian people, which the commander-in-chief does not order laughing
          3. Andrakann
            Andrakann 11 October 2015 11: 17 New
            0
            The simple Russian people, who received a quality education, which was provided by the villain Stalin, using the resources and vitality of the economy, which was built by the same villain.
      6. 34 region
        34 region 10 October 2015 22: 43 New
        +1
        What is your evidence?
  • Denis DV
    Denis DV 10 October 2015 15: 00 New
    0
    As a result of the explosion of the information dump, the author was shell-shocked by propaganda of different times, and as a result this emotional, disoriented article was born. But for an attempt to form thoughts I’ll put a plus - they say, it heals drinks
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 October 2015 15: 01 New
    +5
    qualities such as love for the homeland are promoted and nurtured

    Patriotism does not need to be promoted or "educated" in it. A normal person has it initially ...
    1. palm
      palm 11 October 2015 00: 07 New
      0
      And what ended with Bonaparte patriotism. Full w.
  • Zai pali
    Zai pali 10 October 2015 15: 02 New
    +5
    Russia feeds its army. And does not feed the trolls. am
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 11 October 2015 03: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Zai Pali
      Russia feeds its army. And does not feed the trolls
      Russia feeds the stock, and the army that exists to protect the stock.
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 10 October 2015 15: 11 New
    +5
    For the only (until the end of September) global player in the power market, this is certainly a blow below the belt. The USA, for a quarter of a century, together with its “roof”, imposed their internal governance and their exclusive right to change local elites on client countries
    You don't need to lift your belt so high. We wanted, as is customary for us, in the face, but if they have "below the waist" where everyone has a head then ... Look, I don’t believe that the minke whales didn’t know about the "Caliber"! We knew! But that we REALLY SHOOT at them? So who is their doctor after that?
  • rvsn90
    rvsn90 10 October 2015 15: 19 New
    +4
    Many of those present here, people who served or served, will not let me lie, how, with our organization of army units, we manage to fight effectively ??? I mean our mess mixed with order, "defeat" us, no options soldier yes ... Mind cannot be understood by Russia, common arshin ... etc. etc.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 10 October 2015 22: 47 New
      0
      Thousand devils! Are there those who served in NATO? HOW IS IT ORDERED? AND?
  • shinobi
    shinobi 10 October 2015 15: 20 New
    +7
    I would voice the current "Russian Idea" with folk wisdom-Live yourself and do not bother others to live.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 10 October 2015 22: 51 New
      0
      Shinobi! I'm afraid it will not work in the west. They’re not used to living there. There, as in the cartoon about the dragon: Everything to me, me and me. Perhaps with such a slogan there, resuscitation will not help.
  • akudr48
    akudr48 10 October 2015 15: 24 New
    +1
    The article is good for its sober look at the situation and it is strange that it gave it a lot of minuses.

    Why did the generals and marshals not like this true publication?

    Because the author not only doesn’t stroke the divan troops over the head, but also shows their kindergarten faith in the dream and the only right course of our many permanent rower in galleys.

    Which still, do not worry, will not leave you, he will row for a long time with his team of Naibulin, Ulyukaev, Gref and other Chuybas.

    I can’t agree only with the fact that the author put at the forefront the only problem, having resolved that, as he believes, everything will return to normal and fortunately, namely, the Big Dream.

    Well, our leader proclaimed this dream in the format of the Russian World, and then he did not even mention it, this dream. And instead of New Russia, separate regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions turned out. I didn’t dream, it turns out.

    Now we’ll wait for a new one from him, right.

    The result was a personified dream of the leader of the whole of Russia. The leader stopped dreaming and the leader returned to reality - immediately, and the people lost the dream, which is very bad.

    Because the case is wrong, it is necessary that the people go to the leader.

    Our successes will be when the people's dreams of a better life will be the sacred business of their leaders, according to which they will be judged by the leaders, and the people will rule within the framework of the rule of law.

    In the meantime, a fairly large part of the people dream of an increase in retirement and how to live at these prices, at which you can only dream of buying something for life or even survival.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 15: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: akudr48
      Because the case is wrong, it is necessary that the people go to the leader.

      Our successes will be when the people's dreams of a better life will be the sacred business of their leaders, according to which they will be judged by the leaders, and the people will rule within the framework of the rule of law.

      In the meantime, a fairly large part of the people dream of an increase in retirement and how to live at these prices, at which you can only dream of buying something for life or even survival.

      Question in the forehead! And who do you suggest ..? Bulk, Yavlinsky, Khodorkovsky, etc. .... The trouble and collapse in Russia usually begins with such a whining ... (I remember everything)))) I do not want more, even kill! hi
      1. AUL
        AUL 10 October 2015 16: 34 New
        +1
        And what, besides the ones you listed in Russia, there are no other people? Throw you this cheap demagoguery! We do not have ideal and irreplaceable figures, but there are those who are attached to power.
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 16: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: AUL
          And what, besides the ones you listed in Russia, there are no other people? Throw you this cheap demagoguery! We do not have ideal and irreplaceable figures, but there are those who are attached to power.

          What is your last name and I will vote for you! hi Fair!
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 10 October 2015 17: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
            What is your last name and I will vote for you! Fair!



            Mikhalych ... Indiscrimination and blind faith in people never led to good ... Be careful when voting ...
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      2. veksha50
        veksha50 10 October 2015 17: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Question in the forehead! And who do you suggest ..? Bulk, Yavlinsky, Khodorkovsky, etc. .... The trouble and collapse in Russia usually begins with such a whining ... (I remember everything)))) I do not want more, even kill!




        Vootoot ... It turns out such a catavasia - both MIKHALYCH is right in his own right, and akudr48 (Damn, couldn’t I choose a normal nickname ??? I almost broke my tongue !!!) ... Yes, and the author of the article is in vain to defame .. .

        Listen carefully to everyone, read them - everyone has a part of common sense ... Only this part should be folded like a mosaic, and a decision should be made (God forbid, as Mikhalych says, from shocks ... They are not needed by ANYONE), which satisfied would not have forced the majority of society to destroy-smash-destroy "to the ground" ...

        Only now Mikhalych is right .. look at these funny faces, supposedly smart, trying to denigrate the current government, and the question immediately arises: Are you funny, sure that you will bring the country into a brighter future ???
      3. Robinzon57
        Robinzon57 10 October 2015 21: 09 New
        0
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        MIKHALYCH1

        The frontal question requires the same answer. Certainly NOT LIBERASTS! But you noticed that as soon as a slightly noticeable personality jumps to the top, she is either "tamed" - (you can't win, make a friend), or she disappears in the "backyards", and in the inner circle - personally " devotees. " Of course, devotees are needed, but "knowledgeable, understanding and able" should be engaged in business. So the question to the GUARANTOR about personnel policy. I don’t want the 90s either. sad
        1. 34 region
          34 region 10 October 2015 23: 03 New
          0
          The development of society is spiraling. Only at a higher level. I'm afraid it’s coming and 1914,1918,1941,199 ...
      4. 34 region
        34 region 10 October 2015 22: 56 New
        0
        What if tomorrow an accident (doesn’t it happen)? Who will be the next slave in the gallery? Your suggestions.
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    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 10 October 2015 16: 29 New
      +6
      akudr48
      The article is good for its sober look at the situation and it is strange that it gave it a lot of minuses.
      Why did the generals and marshals not like this true publication?

      Because ... I personally did not like it (but not minus, almost never ... everyone has the right to their point of view!)? Yes, for a simple reason - the author is terribly worried that after the era of the reign of Vechnopyan, Russia dared to push herself up and rise from her knees ... as well as the fact that the article lost faith in RUSSIA:
      ..."our invasion of the world redistribution, which does not affect the world lifestyle, means that for the next few years we (as, indeed, in the rest of the world) do not have such an element of social life as the dream of a Bright Future".
      ... I also don't like the fact that the author has defined Russia as a "military estate power" ... does not show enthusiasm that in such a state there will be an upbringing of patriotism and love for the Motherland ... that we will all pass the TRP (so as not to become in stationary "decks" according to the American model) ...
      .... I do not like the fact that the author does not show satisfaction in the fact that the Russians stopped spitting on the past and began to give due "respect" to the person who turned our country into a world leader ... and under whose leadership the fascist threat was destroyed ...
      ... if not delighted with his sarcasm about the future of Russia! Maybe I'm wrong, but I don’t like the philosophy of pessimism! Such an impression (although the author doesn’t even remind him of the word) that he stands up for that quietness .. yes a whim ... liberal chaos that will lead to an orientation towards ... an existing way of life and which is imposed in a most severe way under the slogan of democracy ...
  • sl22277
    sl22277 10 October 2015 15: 29 New
    11
    Russia does not need a dream, but a clearly accented, distinct national idea.
    In my opinion, in the light of recent events, this idea appears more and more clearly. Its essence is the creation of a civilization, alternative to the existing ones, and above all to the Western one. But without imposing, explicit or implicit, on the rest of the world. Overcoming Eurocentrism, i.e. ideas about the West as a civilizational summit of human development. Russia already has good groundwork in this direction. This is the experience of a fairly conflict-free centuries-old existence in one state of different ethnic groups, cultures and religions. These are the features of the Russian national character: perseverance, patience, compassion, generosity, striving for justice, sacrifice! This is the colossal size of a country that stretches half the world. This is its military potential, created by the entire people. The main features of the new Eurasian civilization are social solidarity, multiculturalism, the implementation of traditional moral values ​​embodied in all world religions, and their transfer to state, public, family and personal life! And Russia does not need a "beautiful, still unclear dream" that "is already calling you ahead." The embodiment of the emerging national idea - this is the meaning of the existence of the Russian state and each of its citizens here and now!
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 10 October 2015 15: 38 New
      +5
      Only no civilization needs to be created. It has already been created. It is enough to get it off the shelf and "modernize" it a little: fix the shortcomings and develop the advantages.
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 10 October 2015 16: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: sl22277
      Russia does not need a dream, but a clearly accented, distinct national idea.
      In my opinion, in the light of recent events, this idea appears more and more clearly. Its essence is the creation of a civilization, alternative to the existing ones, and above all to the Western one. But without imposing, explicit or implicit, on the rest of the world. Overcoming Eurocentrism, i.e. ideas about the West as a civilizational summit of human development. Russia already has good groundwork in this direction. This is the experience of a fairly conflict-free centuries-old existence in one state of different ethnic groups, cultures and religions. These are the features of the Russian national character: perseverance, patience, compassion, generosity, striving for justice, sacrifice! This is the colossal size of a country that stretches half the world. This is its military potential, created by the entire people. The main features of the new Eurasian civilization are social solidarity, multiculturalism, the implementation of traditional moral values ​​embodied in all world religions, and their transfer to state, public, family and personal life! And Russia does not need a "beautiful, still unclear dream" that "is already calling you ahead." The embodiment of the emerging national idea - this is the meaning of the existence of the Russian state and each of its citizens here and now!

      Dear sl22277, you have presented your idea well and competently. Actually, the author of the article writes about this, only a little more in a form difficult to perceive. And your idea and dream of the author, in essence, constitute a single national vector of development of the country. For without a national idea, the existence of society is possible for some time, but has no prospects for the future.
      Society seeks the meaning of its existence in the same way as an individual


      Somehow I think so. hi
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  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 October 2015 15: 45 New
    +4
    So far, the global idea is really a struggle for survival. Let us concede - they will crush and tear apart without any pity. They also dance on the bones.
    We hold on and work. Raising children, building a house, planting a garden. We are building a road, building a plant, a power plant, a bridge, an airplane ... Creation and creativity should be the fundamental idea of ​​life. So win.
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 15: 46 New
    +6
    Russia needs to be left behind for a while ... Let it recover! Otherwise, we are not responsible for ourselves! Everything that is demanded of us both domestically and externally is useless and dangerous ... We will not be different as many people want! Do not be angry and you will be happy ....
  • Turkir
    Turkir 10 October 2015 15: 49 New
    +4
    I would not want to live in a future that the author really wants to impose on us.
    Thank God that this future depends not only on the author and his associates.
  • Coconut
    Coconut 10 October 2015 15: 50 New
    +2
    the author of the article is clearly the 5th column is Gozman under a pseudonym)
  • Old warrior
    Old warrior 10 October 2015 15: 56 New
    +2
    What to pour from empty to empty? For a year now, Patriarch Kirill has voiced the basic tenets of our ideology at a meeting with the State Duma. I like it. Only now, for some reason, things are still there. Everyone agreed and forgot. A pity - the thoughts were interesting.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 16: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Old Warrior
      What to pour from empty to empty? For a year now, Patriarch Kirill has voiced the basic tenets of our ideology at a meeting with the State Duma. I like it. Only now, for some reason, things are still there. Everyone agreed and forgot. A pity - the thoughts were interesting.

      All right, you say ... And the "cart" has already turned into the top three .. We are racing ahead! Disperse .... Eh ..!
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 October 2015 17: 17 New
      -5
      Quote: Old Warrior
      Patriarch Kirill voiced the basic tenets of our ideology

      Popov’s ideology is a way to a dead end! All beliefs are from a lack of KNOWLEDGE. The more knowledge - the less faith in God!
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 10 October 2015 17: 28 New
        +1
        This is only fools or fooled and sinister like that.
      2. Old warrior
        Old warrior 10 October 2015 19: 13 New
        0
        Respected! Have you ever seen / heard this performance, or so decided to trend?
  • iohanson
    iohanson 10 October 2015 16: 12 New
    +2
    Justice, God. Pushkin, Tyutchev. -That's ours.
  • Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 16: 15 New
    +1
    I read the article about five times. Sorry I did not understand. Clinging to a seemingly rational grain
    Just because no one has been able to find ways out of the global crisis with the help of “gold” for eight years. So, the contradictions will be resolved by damask. For Russia, this crisis and the “Bulat era” are the same “window of opportunity” as the end of the 90s for security officials, who suddenly turned from the staff of the seven-bankers into the masters of the situation.

    So we will live by the lines:
    The mind does not understand Russia .....
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    2. creak
      creak 10 October 2015 17: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9

      The mind does not understand Russia .....


      Here the controversy flared up again
      And flow again, boiling in vain
      "The mind cannot understand Russia"
      And how to understand, again it’s unclear ... what
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 18: 33 New
        0
        It’s time, mother is vigorous,
        Intellect to understand Russia.
        And the lesson "only to believe"
        For a long time already should be lost. "
        "All the controversy flared up again
        And flow again, boiling in vain:
        "The mind cannot understand Russia",
        And what to understand is again not clear. "

        Huberman too, but completely
  • Zai pali
    Zai pali 10 October 2015 16: 17 New
    0
    Tyutchev? Okay. Poetry is simple. request
  • lao_tsy
    lao_tsy 10 October 2015 16: 17 New
    +6
    It does not drag on itself the burden of social parasites, comparable to the European one (Tajiks don’t come to us for benefits),

    Unfortunately, we are dragging the goods even worse - these are oligarchic parasites, which withdraw money from the country much larger than immigrants.
  • ivanych
    ivanych 10 October 2015 16: 21 New
    +1
    ..I do not understand. Does the author think that I dream of a bright communist future?
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 16: 26 New
      0
      Quote: ivanych
      ..I do not understand. Does the author think that I dream of a bright communist future?

      The author thinks that he did not understand what you were dreaming of.
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 10 October 2015 16: 40 New
    +4
    As long as there are dreams of a just society in Russia, there is hope that it will once
    will be built. But I would like the construction to do without Maidan.
  • KRIG55
    KRIG55 10 October 2015 16: 46 New
    +2
    You can minus ... Russia was not dragged by the "partners" into a war, not in Ukraine, so in Syria. And now it is very, very difficult to get out of this situation without losing face. The Americans have been breeding democracy there for years, and we decided with two dozen planes ( albeit the most modern) to put things in order. DO NOT WORK! We will make ourselves additional problems. Assad needed help four years ago, when it all could have been nipped in the bud, and it feels like we've overslept the course of events and are now trying to catch up.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 17: 05 New
      +3
      Nobody is going to minus you. And four years ago, Russia had the opportunity to get involved in warfare? Yes, and our planes are not the most modern there. And so the trouble began. Let’s help. Where ours didn’t disappear.
    2. vassa
      vassa 10 October 2015 23: 56 New
      0
      Time will tell...
  • lecturer
    lecturer 10 October 2015 16: 47 New
    +1
    And only the national dream - that is, the image of the future that would cover most of the citizens with superprojects of development, would make them develop themselves and show their best qualities - such a dream has not been established for today's and tomorrow's Russia.
    - personally, I, the old one caught the thought in the article that lying (the author) on the sofa and waiting for coffee on a tray from his woman would hardly become the fulfillment of his (author's) dream of "superprojects of tomorrow's Russia" ... and he clearly forgot that Russia has never lost new ones, from "Bears Lomonosovs, Peter the Great, ... and to the modern president" VVP ", and the like ...
    PS In a word, stupid author.
  • Oleko
    Oleko 10 October 2015 16: 54 New
    +2
    The national idea is maturing. "Everything truly great is made by slow, imperceptible growth." Seneca: And the national idea is what is next to me, what I live with. This is reality. The successful attacks of our bombers are inspiring. The court I won on October 7, this year, obliged one unscrupulous company to return my money to me with the payment of fines, fines and moral damage in a year and a half as a result of the intervention of Rospotrebnadzor. For me, this is also the implementation of the national idea of ​​the rule of law. The fact that the Law is being trampled into the mud is nothing new to me. But people fight and win. And I know such. Nat. the idea is a great job of the management company that serves our home. It is headed by the Hero of Russia, a former marine who fought in Chechnya. He was rotted away, he revived the case again. As soon as the UK took us, energy-saving lamps appeared on the floors, repairs were made in the entrance and on the floors. No cigarette butt, no inscription. In the Criminal Code there is a queue of houses wishing to get service. Nat. the idea for me is my wife and her boss. Director of the design organization. Warmore. Captain of the first rank. Candidate of technical sciences. Cashier Jew. I went to BS. He organically cannot give a bribe. The honor of a naval officer, the honor of a dagger and a caperang's shoulder straps are dearer to him than a momentary profit. The firm owes 5 million rubles. Now payments from debtors have gone. And what is interesting, those firms that "greased" went bankrupt and it afloat. This is God's Justice. I can give many examples. I won't.
  • Scraptor
    Scraptor 10 October 2015 17: 07 New
    +1
    Was there a dream of "becoming great"?
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 10 October 2015 17: 15 New
    +3
    The article is cunning ... But I know that this will happen in Russia! We will break through ..
  • m-arsenich
    m-arsenich 10 October 2015 17: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: sl22277
    Russia does not need a dream, but a clearly accented, distinct national idea.


    In fact, the article is clever and therefore intended for clever, because it makes you think about a lot of things, which many have unlearned, unlearned to think about (supposedly, it’s easier to live like that). That’s why every scumbag divorced - boors, embezzlers, rapists, werewolves in uniform and without uniforms, and so on and so forth. And if you recall the history of Russia, then the Russians - by origin - were an elite in the Turkish army; From time immemorial, under the banners of Russia and the USSR, all the peoples inhabiting it fought, not to mention the quantitative composition of talents and geniuses who made a decisive contribution to technological progress and the development of mankind. Therefore, there is no need for slogans, chimeras, it’s enough to proudly recognize yourself as Russian: Russian Jew, Russian Georgian, Russian Kazakh, etc., i.e. to all those who speak, think and empathize in Russian. And from here follows a clear and accentuated conclusion that IT IS A SHAME TO BE NOT RUSSIAN.
  • pirate
    pirate 10 October 2015 17: 27 New
    0
    People, you remember WHAT happened before Putin came. Chaos. For example, I’m not his defender (I will never forgive Kursk), but now everything is better than under Yeltsin. And our army and navy are the best. And our country must be raised by more than one superior person, we must all rise.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 10 October 2015 18: 33 New
      +1
      WHAT was before Putin
      What period are you interested in not the Mongol-Tatar yoke, no? Honestly got from 90m. Stable Brezhnev’s are a hundred times better than Putin’s. What is good under Putin, the bourgeois authorities, who do not care about the people, will want to completely cancel the pension.
      1. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 10 October 2015 18: 52 New
        0
        Are you proposing to give the crown to the freak-liberal? Or some foolish "patriot"?
  • 5344443243366
    5344443243366 10 October 2015 17: 27 New
    +2
    I agree with the author, to drink sweet, satisfying to eat, to enjoy all the benefits of life, fine, no doubt; and yet something is missing ... It is true that one percent is against ninety-nine, and after all, those who won the war and built the POWER in percent were vice versa, and most importantly, that was what we are lacking now. You can call it at least a dream goal, at least a state of mind. Respect to the author
  • Borus017
    Borus017 10 October 2015 17: 31 New
    +1
    Article plus. I agree with the author. Regarding non-reproduction of the matrix - in my opinion, it is wrong. The matrix is ​​quite reproducible both by today's youth and by the older generation (70-80-90-2000), the trouble is that the development of society is moving towards disunity, information overload has long exceeded the limit of intellectual processing of most people and perception has slipped into pure "like - I do not like "how this or that information or idea is POSTED. On the other hand, the media are actively working on the extra-logical, emotional perception of information, creating the desired "picture". An idea is not needed, just as strong and smart people are not needed. Enough of a herd of the strong and a handful of weak but smart. Alas. In the near future, "Star Trek" will not shine to anyone. Will there be a dystopia - time will tell.
  • nikalex
    nikalex 10 October 2015 17: 36 New
    -1
    To the author - three +. An article about the Strategy-Dream of the Prometheans of the Great Country in the Crisis-Redistribution of War and Peace of the Earth Civilization. Would you paint, Gentlemen-Minusers, honestly bypassing the mind of the Present, so difficult in the fight against the hypocritical, twice arrogant, thrice vile, Human-Enemy, Army and Defense Tactics of the Guide, your Victory trench-operative of survival of the goy-fight-unit from your own, certainly the Only Correct, Epimetheus-positions (criticism of the Hind Mind), lo and behold, - In, .. oh, but the Meaning is the deepest. No wonder K. Marx in "Capital" repeated and repeated (without reference to the primary sources) the Great Christian Dream-Doctrine of the Freedom of the Spirit in the Kingdom (God) of Light-Communism. Which Lenin reduced to the formulas: Earth - (to Earthlings) to peasants, Heaven (Power) - to Nebyans (Soviets / All-Russian Central Executive Committee), Communism = Soviet Power + Electrification of the Whole Country. Freedom was replaced by "Study, study, ... You can become a Communist only when you learn Materialism, rejecting Spirit in general and (Dream of the Ideal of the World) Idealism in particular. Ideas are removed from the Mind of the HEAD, and then - Masses and Worlds ... Author - RESPECT!
  • vov4ik_zver
    vov4ik_zver 10 October 2015 17: 38 New
    +1
    The author is right. There’s nothing to fight for.
  • question
    question 10 October 2015 17: 45 New
    0
    Article plus, it's time to think about the future. A new worldview is not born overnight!
  • bubla5
    bubla5 10 October 2015 18: 04 New
    0
    National idea of ​​the future lime and liquidate officials as a class
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 October 2015 18: 13 New
      0
      Quote: bubla5
      National idea of ​​the future lime and liquidate officials as a class

      Exactly.

      And also it is necessary to lime sellers and cashiers in shops. Like a class.

      PS: I love Russian officials no more than yours. But "lime as a class" is you who bent it ..
  • kombin23
    kombin23 10 October 2015 18: 05 New
    +1
    Russia has one way, to live the truth. This is her strength.
    1. onix757
      onix757 10 October 2015 18: 47 New
      +1
      With the truth for export, everything is fine with us, but inside the country it’s not very good.
  • VladimS
    VladimS 10 October 2015 18: 13 New
    +1
    It is not clear that throughout history, the Jews in Russia are constantly looking for a "path" for the people and tirelessly trying to lead to it ...
    But in fact and in fact, only retraction into confusion and lack of time.
  • palm
    palm 10 October 2015 18: 29 New
    -3
    The Kremlin is only promoting revanchism. There was nothing remarkable in the Soviet Shovel. Therefore, it fell apart. It is doubtful that the pro-Kremlin militarist frenzy is able to unite the people and it is even less reasonable to see in this the sprouts of a national idea. Looks like a slogan - Russia above all.
    1. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 10 October 2015 18: 53 New
      -1
      Where did you come from here? Can you explain what the "Soviet past" is? I do not know this. I know the history of the USSR.
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 10 October 2015 19: 04 New
        +2
        And about the "soviet past" ...
        1. Aleksandr1959
          Aleksandr1959 10 October 2015 19: 30 New
          0
          And more about the "soviet past"
          "You can't run away from yourself: millions of invisible bonds
          They will not allow us to forget childhood, even to those who are ***.
          Today I guys dreamed about the Soviet Union,
          And I think we too quickly said goodbye to the era.

          Let the "TV" lie that the pores have never been freezing,
          That from the signs of the Masonic eaves were breaking over us -
          I mean that in our yard there were many friends,
          And that we went to our neighbors without a visa.

          Someone built and lived, someone stupidly looked at the fence,
          Someone was quietly oily, stuffing mattresses with currency,
          But from the distant overseas everyone heard the angelic choir,
          Although they explained to us that this is a f ** k sy.

          It’s not that we wanted to leave - we just went outside,
          And she led into darkness, a curve path ran.
          I don’t know when the traitor and the thief appeared -
          It was visible among us, but until the time he stole a little,

          Left alone, he loomed through the window with a candle -
          And while we fought, obsessed with our own tongues,
          The enemy entered the waddle, pouring urine on the shrine,
          And he sat down on the throne, swinging on undetails.

          Having smoked the kingsays of "the chosen ones of the EL EM world",
          After winding gigabytes of porn on advertising meters,
          We returned to ourselves, only not enough space was available to everyone ...
          We pissed off such a Country - excuse me, mom!

          Are we, eyes downcast, pass side,
          We are silent - more tolerant than a sheep and more timid than a hare?
          Maybe at least for the last time we’ll habitually shake antiquity,
          In a tense struggle, tearing the eggs of the opponent?

          We have not cried hitherto, perhaps we shall not cry in the future, -
          Because of lesser resentment, wars sometimes begin.
          Who dares to live is not afraid to die in battle,
          The ballistic path to the enemy is measured out calmly.

          Let the neo-window scream in the House of Congress
          Let the "defenders of the law" go hysterical, s ** and,
          But as long as the missiles read Washington DC
          NATO partners still have short arms.

          Ukraine, rise up! Belarus, no longer rub!
          Returning home, brush off your dusty feet.
          Together we are the sacred Ancient Russia
          And did not leave *** to the creature that stole the name of Europe.

          And when the Democrats of Sodom, caliphs for an hour
          We are screaming heart-rendingly: "Stand up with cancer - live like people!"
          I’m funny because I remember how it was with us,
          And I want to believe - it will definitely be!

          From the far berths the ships will leave for the Ocean,
          In distant orbits, plans will continue to move ...
          Yes, the book is over, but in the memory of our land
          The history of the world still has a sequel -

          There will be a wind in the foliage, a laugh of noon and midnight of joy,
          The sin will be sweet to us and the bitter repentance of the cup -
          It will be as always. It will be as it should be for those
          For whom is this home, and not just "moronic Rush".

          Life will show whether we will hold the brotherhood together with centenary wine,
          Having finally figured out which side we are playing on,
          Or, Great Russia, you will remain a dream,
          Converted to the past - a bright lost paradise,

          If to us, dissolved as salt in world rumor,
          Now - to the miserable sufferers and victims of treacherous wiles,
          Neither the strength in the hands, nor the brains in the head,
          No fun in the groin to do anything more grandiose. "

          © author Oleg L. Vorobyov
          1. palm
            palm 11 October 2015 00: 16 New
            0
            The history of the USSR is only a small segment of the history of Russia. This time period has historically proved the failure and non-viability of the communist ideology and development model.
          2. palm
            palm 11 October 2015 01: 14 New
            -1
            I can’t understand how such creativity can inspire someone and something. And you still dream of the Soviet Union. but I don’t really want to go back to the USSR, I remember too well the demagoguery about sweet tomorrow and all coupons today for matches, soap, sugar, salt, etc., etc. all in line, all by appointment. Obviously someone has something with memory is not right. It turns out 20 years. More than enough for advanced sclerosis. The Internet and universal computerization are the merit of rotten liberal capitalism. Developed socialism envisaged the sufficiency of 2-3 television channels and 2-3 radio channels. And that’s all. Today, from the Kremlin stands, demagogy about the great future tomorrow is distributed to the right and left. to which the great seer leader and teacher, the sun of tomorrow, the genius of all times and peoples, will certainly lead us. I already heard these fables. And I won’t be mistaken if tomorrow nothing of the promised sweet will happen. how was Russia in deep. so there it will remain because of the Kremlin dreamers and storytellers. The great future of Russia sounds like raving paranoid.
            1. Scraptor
              Scraptor 11 October 2015 02: 30 New
              0
              And on TV, are they really showing at least on a pair of channels what is it worth?

              The Kremlin rostrum was when?

              Many without coupons now cannot buy something to eat or go to the doctor.

              Universal computerization is the merit of scientists, not least Soviet (if it's not about game consoles and Internet TV for watching porn, and releasing bile and other things on a given topic here).
            2. Aleksandr1959
              Aleksandr1959 11 October 2015 21: 57 New
              0
              It turns out 20 years. More than enough for advanced sclerosis.

              It turns out that much less is needed for sclerosis. Something 90s, as "the era of complete democracy", you hell remember in your comments.
              I’ll quote from Gumilyov, very clearly reflecting the essence of people like you.

              The present intelligentsia is such a spiritual sect. What is characteristic: they don’t know anything, they don’t know anything, but they judge everything and completely disagree with dissent

              I talked with an audience like you in the 80s and later ... and more recently. Not a damn thing has changed.
              You are against everything that the people create. It is the people, and not a bunch of aesthetic ...
              The great future of Russia sounds like raving paranoid.

              If we can sweep away such evil spirits as you and others like you ... the great future of Russia as a Great Power provided.
            3. Aleksandr1959
              Aleksandr1959 11 October 2015 23: 04 New
              0
              In short, this is another liberal troll. I spoiled a dozen messages and took .. shed. Some common phrases, nothing concrete. After a while, it will appear under a new login, but with similar messages.
      2. Scraptor
        Scraptor 10 October 2015 19: 21 New
        +3
        from where, from the trash can, into which he was always swept with a nasty broom, until he managed to break free to the same "rainbow"
      3. sds87
        sds87 10 October 2015 20: 09 New
        0
        Do not expect from palamic nothing - this is a clear liberal and a person working for the West = ENEMY. 2 comments in total - and one slander to the past of Russia.
        1. Scraptor
          Scraptor 10 October 2015 20: 12 New
          +2
          rather "a friend of man" ... He writes about himself: "the cult of personality denies the cult of common sense." And if the person was cult and with good common sense?
          1. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 10 October 2015 20: 52 New
            +1
            As one historical figure said: "There was a cult .... but there was personality!"
          2. palm
            palm 11 October 2015 00: 21 New
            0
            Does Russia have common sense if it is famous for fools and roads ???
            1. Scraptor
              Scraptor 11 October 2015 02: 10 New
              0
              ask yourself ...

              Do you consider yourself smarter than the leader of any country? winked

              Tell me, why do you not like Stalin so much?
        2. palm
          palm 11 October 2015 00: 31 New
          0
          The enemy is the one who exhorts everyone that they say everything here is simply fucking and wonderful. Not only that, he himself was convinced of this, but everyone else was misleading. That is, it is engaged in the dissemination of deliberately false illusions. Storytellers.
          1. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 11 October 2015 06: 43 New
            0
            Enemy for whom? For you? No one writes that
            everything is just fucking awesome

            But no one criticizes anything indiscriminately. But for people like you, any power is bad. Sit, fuck, don’t do a damn thing- Your credo.
            And what are you doing here, on the site of "storytellers" 7 Did you decide to enlighten us "poor"? I've seen enough of such "educators" in the 90s.
          2. AID.S
            AID.S 11 October 2015 09: 20 New
            0
            Your speeches are cooked in palm oil. Neither taste nor color, even with the glutamate of Russophobia, covered by anti-whitewash. In the best case, they are useless. We will not swim.
  • Tusv
    Tusv 10 October 2015 18: 34 New
    +3
    Back in 2012, after Russia conducted the capital's velvet revolution by all the rules, and she did not obey

    Where is it? When? By what rules. Actually did not notice enta revolution
  • onix757
    onix757 10 October 2015 18: 34 New
    0
    On a hike here, the entire brigade from "made by them" migrated. They have complete calm there.
  • ksv1973
    ksv1973 10 October 2015 19: 03 New
    0
    Author, I appeal to you!
    If you are the same Vitya Marakhovsky, whom I knew from the geo-faculty of the Moscow Institute of Information Technology named after Krupskaya, then I understand the confusion of your article. And I imagine that smoky atmosphere, under (under) which the article was born.
    If you are not the same Victor, then I just ask you to articulate your thoughts better. Reading your article, my eyes began to live independently of each other, like the eyes of a chameleon.
    But digesting what I read, I tend to plus rather than minus!
  • 31rus
    31rus 10 October 2015 19: 22 New
    0
    Interesting, very interesting, as much as pride takes
  • Straight
    Straight 10 October 2015 19: 24 New
    0
    Russia gives the world freedom from the international bandit of the USA and this is a turn in history. And on the dream account, I have a dream that the law enforcement bodies are elected by the people, starting from the district police officer and honestly fighting offenses, especially cuts and kickbacks, so that the oligarchic-bureaucratic state system is left behind and that the model of the armed forces civil industry based on scientific developments would produce a world-class product.