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Carter: Spain will leave its Patriot air defense system in Turkey

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Pentagon chief Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, reports RIA News.




Earlier, the Turkish Foreign Ministry reported that the Pentagon "will not extend the deployment period on the Turkish territory of the Patriot air defense system after the end of the current mission in October of this year."

Carter explained to reporters:
“The decision to withdraw the Patriots from Turkey was made a few months ago in order to return them for modernization. There remain the "Patriots" of other NATO countries. I have been discussing with the Spanish Minister of Defense for the last couple of days. The Spaniards intend to leave their “Patriot” in Turkey, so the Patriot complexes will remain there. ”
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  1. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 9 October 2015 13: 44 New
    35
    After reading the latest news that the US Air Force bombed the second peaceful wedding in Yemen for a month, I was genuinely outraged. After all, people get married and call on guests' weddings not for US aircraft to bomb them.
    Successful bombing of wedding processions has become literally the hallmark of US aviation in all countries without exception, which the Pentagon periodically bombes on various pretexts. Reflecting on why the US Air Force regularly bombed weddings not only in Yemen, but also in many other countries, I decided to find out the reasons for this unhealthy trend. In vain having spent a couple of hours searching for an answer on the Internet, I decided to call. And not just anywhere, but immediately to the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    Мне ответила девушка, у которой я не мешкая спросил: "Почему авиация США, постоянно и во всех странах мира, бомбит мирные свадьбы?".
    - "Этот вопрос не находится в компетенции нашего ведомства. С этим вопросом, вам следует обратиться за разъяснениями в Пентагон" - ответила девушка.
    Но я тут же ей возразил: "Я не могу обратиться за разъяснениями в Пентагон, потому что я не владею английским. Меня интересует если не ответ, то хотя бы предположительная точка зрения Генштаба РФ по этому вопросу".
    - "Переключаю вас на аналитический отдел разведки" - сказала девушка и в трубке заиграла мелодия песни: "Над границей тучи ходят хмуро".
    After a while, the officer on duty answered me and I repeated to him the question that tormented me.
    - "Одну минуту" - сказал офицер. Было слышно, как он быстро набирает что-то на клавиатуре. Примерно через минуту, офицер сообщил:
    - "По нашим данным, весьма значительная часть руководства США, Пентагона и НАТО, испытывают острую латентную неприязнь к традиционным гетеросексуальным свадьбам. Вероятно именно по этой причине, ВВС США постоянно и повсеместно бомбят именно традиционные свадьбы".
    "Так они там что, все... Это какой-то розыгрыш или..? Как вы можете это подтвердить? " - спросил я в недоумении.
    There was a pause again, accompanied by a quick typing of some text on the keyboard ...
    - "По нашим данным, за всю историю американских бомбардировок, от действий авиации США, не пострадало ни одной гомосексуальной свадьбы ни в одной стране мира" - ответил офицер и повесил трубку. http://cont.ws/post/131818
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 9 October 2015 13: 47 New
      +9
      Well you wrote.! hi Here is the real Patriot!
      1. Borets
        Borets 9 October 2015 13: 53 New
        +9
        In the process, it’s cheaper to drop them in Turkey than to export and upgrade. It looks like a suitcase without a handle)))
        1. RUSIVAN
          RUSIVAN 9 October 2015 14: 11 New
          +1
          ... on a suitcase without handles and without wheels.
        2. bocsman
          bocsman 9 October 2015 14: 16 New
          +1
          Apparently there are few of their patriots who get imported ones!
        3. Maxom75
          Maxom75 9 October 2015 14: 17 New
          +1
          It is necessary for the Kurds to order a couple of installations. Let gouging the guard and soprut. We will sort it out and study it ourselves, and throw up weapons to the Kurds in exchange for the fight against ISIS and Erdogan.
          1. aziatt
            aziatt 9 October 2015 14: 33 New
            0
            And to us we are imported shit, our air defense systems are many times better in all respects
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 9 October 2015 14: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: aziatt
              And to us we are imported shit, our air defense systems are many times better in all respects


              We are not for copying. Us to increase the effectiveness of counteraction.
            2. Aksakal_07
              Aksakal_07 9 October 2015 14: 58 New
              +1
              Чтобы турки обиделись на америкосов, обвинили их в снабжении курских пешмерга "Пэтриотами".
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 9 October 2015 13: 55 New
        +2
        And what does Turkey have no money to buy for the needs of the country's defense of Patriot or MEADS?
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 9 October 2015 14: 12 New
          +2
          The ships of the Baltic Fleet have just fired missiles ...

          Теперь что в Трибалтику "Патриоты" из Испании.. wink
      3. Juborg
        Juborg 9 October 2015 14: 47 New
        0
        Смешного мало, "Патриот" хоть и старая машина , но дело своё знает чётко. Поэтому думаю это надо иметь ввиду.
    2. Sterlya
      Sterlya 9 October 2015 14: 16 New
      +1
      For fun. Are they the Patriots who want to fight ISIS? (question is stupid really?)
      1. Walking
        Walking 9 October 2015 14: 27 New
        +3
        Maybe they left these Patriots for ISIS? the Americans promised that Russia would have losses.
      2. Aksakal_07
        Aksakal_07 9 October 2015 15: 05 New
        +1
        ИГИЛ здесь не причем. Намек на то, что турки могли бы сбивать наши "сушки", если они случайно залетят на пару метров в воздушное пространство Турции.
        Еще версия: организовать "пропажу" этих "Пэтриотов" или передать игиловцам, чтобы те могли использовать их против российской авиации.
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 9 October 2015 19: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Sterlya
        For fun. Are they the Patriots who want to fight ISIS?


        Вопрос, прямо сказать - "не очень". Думается, что эти "пэтриоты" предназначаются для переправки ИГИЛовцам. Ничего нового:- в Афганистане "стингеры" талибам, а для ИГИЛ "пэтриоты" (ведь это ими выпестованные сукины дети). Наглухо закрывать участок границы между Сирией и Турцией нужно, нето будут сюрпризы от наших заклятых партнёров. yes
    3. aziatt
      aziatt 9 October 2015 14: 31 New
      +1
      Naturally, if the United States Secretary of Defense is already blue, then what are they talking about. It seems to them there already, the blue niggas rule the ball.
    4. Altona
      Altona 9 October 2015 14: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: viktorrymar
      After reading the latest news that the US Air Force bombed the second peaceful wedding in Yemen for a month, I was genuinely outraged. After all, people get married and call on guests' weddings not for US aircraft to bomb them.

      --------------------
      Weddings in Yemen seem to be bombed by Saudi aviation, the US bombing hospitals in Afghanistan (Kunduz) ... So, for reference ...
  2. figwam
    figwam 9 October 2015 13: 46 New
    +1
    The head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, RIA Novosti reports.

    It got sick of it.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 9 October 2015 13: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: figvam
      The head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, RIA Novosti reports.

      It got sick of it.


      I'm wondering if anyone has tracked the trajectory of the calibers or not ... otherwise, it turns out then a dead poultice and not a patriot ..
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 9 October 2015 14: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        I'm wondering if anyone has tracked the trajectory of the calibers or not ... otherwise, it turns out then a dead poultice and not a patriot ..

        It is unlikely that the Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, as I understand it, the route ran far from the border with Turkey, and it is impossible to keep the AWACS aircraft 24 hours a day.
        1. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 9 October 2015 14: 19 New
          0
          .... It is unlikely that Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, ....

          .....Могут...Была инфа ,что над морем не более 20м, над сушей около 40-50м...."Пэтриот" не способен ( насколько знаю) перехватывать цели на такой высоте....Хотя могу и ощибиться ( не ПВОшник)...:))))))
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 9 October 2015 14: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: aleks 62 next
            .... It is unlikely that Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, ....

            .....Могут...Была инфа ,что над морем не более 20м, над сушей около 40-50м...."Пэтриот" не способен ( насколько знаю) перехватывать цели на такой высоте....Хотя могу и ощибиться ( не ПВОшник)...:))))))

            I forgot to put a comma after the word Hardly.
          2. aziatt
            aziatt 9 October 2015 14: 35 New
            0
            According to its performance characteristics, it is not capable, it is generally ancient as a ram of a mammoth
    2. Bombardier
      Bombardier 9 October 2015 13: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      The head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, RIA Novosti reports.

      It got sick of it.


      As if someone asked Spain! Ha ha ha ha laughing Or did someone in recent years hear the phrase - the military contingent of Spain or the Spanish squadron or the General Staff of Spain? Spain is a peacefully grazing cow in a sunny meadow - it has horns and hooves, but for some reason everyone milk it (especially the owner)!
  3. Monos
    Monos 9 October 2015 13: 49 New
    15
    Well, well ... Let's see.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/479/pnnt484.jpg
  4. mpzss
    mpzss 9 October 2015 13: 53 New
    0
    get rid of junk and unnecessary ballast !?
  5. Evgtan
    Evgtan 9 October 2015 14: 02 New
    +3
    Abyssally to the Turks, of course. They didn’t live, they were friends with ISIS, they bombed the Kurds, and speculated in oil. And then suddenly here you are: the rooks have arrived ...
  6. Amurets
    Amurets 9 October 2015 14: 02 New
    +2
    But why not bombard the wedding? There are a lot of people, the goal is big, and no one will shoot at the wedding in return. But when shooting starts at weddings in Europe, what will they sing then? In the USA, shooting has not stopped for a long time, it just stops at times.
  7. bronik
    bronik 9 October 2015 14: 03 New
    0
    Recycled materials in the household will do.
  8. ARES623
    ARES623 9 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +3
    Spain buys American anti-aircraft missile systems for a lot of money and stores them thousands of kilometers from its territory, in some kind of Turkey ..... Why then? Doesn't it work out for me?
  9. Stiletto
    Stiletto 9 October 2015 14: 11 New
    +3
    I wonder when Erdogan squeals about our planes in Turkish airspace, what is his opinion on this ???

    Two Greek Air Force F-16 fighters held six Turkish F-16s as targets for training flights over neutral waters in the Aegean. This was stated in the General Staff of Turkey, reports RIA Novosti.
    On the evening of 8 October, the website of the Greek news agency Pro News reported that Turkish fighter 39 times invaded Greek airspace. And three times there was a massive violation when 12 aircraft were immediately over Greek territory. Violations were recorded two days in a row in the airspace over the northeastern, central and southeastern parts of the Aegean Sea.
    1. nond
      nond 9 October 2015 14: 17 New
      +1
      By the way, why are there so few Greek exclamations about this? Where are the media rummaged around?
      1. blak100
        blak100 9 October 2015 17: 09 New
        0
        They have democracy there toggle Iago in a swing. if only our corncracker would yell ..... the Russians are flying angry
  10. RUS96
    RUS96 9 October 2015 14: 16 New
    +5
    The first successes of a major offensive by the Syrian army, or how ISIS is taken in ticks ....
  11. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 9 October 2015 14: 16 New
    0
    It’s even hard to say anything about this.
    Ну оставили и оставили. Не думаю, что нашим ВКС "Пэтриоты" как-то в чем-то помешают если что ))
    Ну а так, можно конечно грозно нахмурить брови, спросить так сурово: " уважаемые, а против кого, собственно вооружаемся-то? Может вас из пятерки каспийских государств слегка пододвинуть?". Ну или что-нибудь в этом роде.
    Tea in our Ministry of Foreign Affairs light heads sit, think of something to say.
    1. skazochnik
      skazochnik 9 October 2015 23: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Can you slightly push you out of the five Caspian states?


      And what does the five Caspian countries have to do with it? Turkey is not among them, so for reference.
  12. Watchdog
    Watchdog 9 October 2015 14: 34 New
    0
    Give C-300 to Iran !!!!
  13. lopvlad
    lopvlad 9 October 2015 14: 41 New
    +1
    Spain will leave its Patriot air defense system in Turkey

    NATO’s attempt to create several kilometers of a no-fly zone on the territory of Syria bordering Turkey in order not to stir militants fighting against Assad in Turkey. It seems that a howl was raised about the flight of Russian aircraft into Turkish airspace.
  14. VALERIK_097
    VALERIK_097 9 October 2015 15: 15 New
    0
    Erdogan seems to have decided to play roulette, Russian roulette, maybe he is forced at gunpoint?
  15. blak100
    blak100 9 October 2015 17: 06 New
    0
    Пусть ставят этот "ПЭТРИОТ" я думаю наши и на него ответят более чемдостойно
  16. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 9 October 2015 19: 28 New
    0
    Так и хочется сказать матрасникам:"Да не позорьтесь вы".
    But I will not say wassat
  17. Old26
    Old26 11 October 2015 10: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Lt. air force reserve
    It is unlikely that the Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, as I understand it, the route ran far from the border with Turkey, and it is impossible to keep the AWACS aircraft 24 hours a day.

    Из заявленных нашими военными высота полета над сушей порядка 100-150 метров, над водой - 20. И они действительно были за пределами зоны ответственности "Пэтриотов"

    Quote: aleks 62 next
    .....Могут...Была инфа ,что над морем не более 20м, над сушей около 40-50м...."Пэтриот" не способен ( насколько знаю) перехватывать цели на такой высоте....Хотя могу и ощибиться ( не ПВОшник)...:))))))

    You really were a little mistaken. Over water - everything is right, over land - 100-150 meters
    "Пэтриот", даже один из первых - РАС-1 (MIM-104A/B) способен сбивать аэродинамические цели with a minimum flight height of 60 meters. But the Americans have a whole bunch of modifications:
    RAS-1(MIM-104A / B)
    RAS-2(MIM-104C)
    PAC-2 / GEM(MIM-104D)
    PAC-2 / GEM-T
    PAC-2 / GEM-C
    PAC-2 / GEM +(MIM-104E)
    RAS-3(MIM-104F)
    PAC-3 Config. 1
    PAC-3 Config. 2
    PAC-3 Config. 3
    PAC-3 MSE

    Modifications PAC-3 Config. 3 и PAC-3 MSE have EMNIP minimum height of the defeat of the order 15-20 meters, and modification PAC-2 / GEM-C adapted to defeat precisely cruise missiles. So they have technical interception capabilities

    Quote: aziatt
    According to its performance characteristics, it is not capable, it is generally ancient as a ram
    mammoth

    Of course not capable. He is American

    Quote: mpzss
    get rid of junk and unnecessary ballast !?

    Probably not. Leave the old modification, but get a newer one. And this one left in Turkey will then go for modification

    Quote: Borets
    In the process, it’s cheaper to drop them in Turkey than to export and upgrade. It looks like a suitcase without a handle)))

    It’s cheaper to leave them there for the next term of combat duty for a shift operator than to drag back and forth