Carter: Spain will leave its Patriot air defense system in Turkey

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Pentagon chief Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, reports RIA News.



Earlier, the Turkish Foreign Ministry reported that the Pentagon "will not extend the deployment period on the Turkish territory of the Patriot air defense system after the end of the current mission in October of this year."

Carter explained to reporters:
“The decision to withdraw the Patriots from Turkey was made a few months ago in order to return them for modernization. There remain the "Patriots" of other NATO countries. I have been discussing with the Spanish Minister of Defense for the last couple of days. The Spaniards intend to leave their “Patriot” in Turkey, so the Patriot complexes will remain there. ”
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  1. +35
    9 October 2015 13: 44
    After reading the latest news that the US Air Force bombed the second peaceful wedding in Yemen for a month, I was genuinely outraged. After all, people get married and call on guests' weddings not for US aircraft to bomb them.
    Successful bombing of wedding processions has become literally the hallmark of US aviation in all countries without exception, which the Pentagon periodically bombes on various pretexts. Reflecting on why the US Air Force regularly bombed weddings not only in Yemen, but also in many other countries, I decided to find out the reasons for this unhealthy trend. In vain having spent a couple of hours searching for an answer on the Internet, I decided to call. And not just anywhere, but immediately to the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    A girl answered me, and I did not hesitate to ask: "Why does US aviation, constantly and in all countries of the world, bomb peaceful weddings?"
    - "This question is not within the competence of our department. With this question, you should contact the Pentagon for clarification," the girl replied.
    But I immediately objected to her: "I cannot ask the Pentagon for clarification, because I do not speak English. I am interested, if not the answer, then at least the tentative point of view of the Russian General Staff on this issue."
    - "I will switch you to the analytical department of intelligence" - the girl said and the melody of the song started playing in the receiver: "Clouds go gloomy over the border."
    After a while, the officer on duty answered me and I repeated to him the question that tormented me.
    “One minute,” said the officer. You could hear him typing quickly on the keyboard. After about a minute, the officer reported:
    "According to our information, a very significant part of the leadership of the United States, the Pentagon and NATO, have an acute latent dislike of traditional heterosexual weddings. It is probably for this reason that traditional weddings are constantly bombed by the US Air Force."
    "So they are there, everyone ... Is this some kind of prank or ..? How can you confirm this?" I asked in disbelief.
    There was a pause again, accompanied by a quick typing of some text on the keyboard ...
    “According to our information, in the entire history of American bombing, not a single homosexual wedding in any country in the world has suffered from the actions of the US air force,” the officer replied and hung up. http://cont.ws/post/131818
    1. +9
      9 October 2015 13: 47
      Well you wrote.! hi Here is the real Patriot!
      1. +9
        9 October 2015 13: 53
        In the process, it’s cheaper to drop them in Turkey than to export and upgrade. It looks like a suitcase without a handle)))
        1. +1
          9 October 2015 14: 11
          ... on a suitcase without handles and without wheels.
        2. +1
          9 October 2015 14: 16
          Apparently there are few of their patriots who get imported ones!
        3. +1
          9 October 2015 14: 17
          It is necessary for the Kurds to order a couple of installations. Let gouging the guard and soprut. We will sort it out and study it ourselves, and throw up weapons to the Kurds in exchange for the fight against ISIS and Erdogan.
          1. 0
            9 October 2015 14: 33
            And to us we are imported shit, our air defense systems are many times better in all respects
            1. +4
              9 October 2015 14: 47
              Quote: aziatt
              And to us we are imported shit, our air defense systems are many times better in all respects


              We are not for copying. Us to increase the effectiveness of counteraction.
            2. +1
              9 October 2015 14: 58
              In order for the Turks to take offense at the Americans, they accused them of supplying the Kursk Peshmergas with Patriots.
      2. +2
        9 October 2015 13: 55
        And what does Turkey have no money to buy for the needs of the country's defense of Patriot or MEADS?
        1. +2
          9 October 2015 14: 12
          The ships of the Baltic Fleet have just fired missiles ...

          Now that "Patriots" from Spain to the Tribaltica .. wink
      3. 0
        9 October 2015 14: 47
        It's not funny, the Patriot is an old car, but it knows its business clearly. Therefore, I think this should be borne in mind.
    2. +1
      9 October 2015 14: 16
      For fun. Are they the Patriots who want to fight ISIS? (question is stupid really?)
      1. +3
        9 October 2015 14: 27
        Maybe they left these Patriots for ISIS? the Americans promised that Russia would have losses.
      2. +1
        9 October 2015 15: 05
        ISIS has nothing to do with it. A hint that the Turks could shoot down our "dryers" if they accidentally fly a couple of meters into Turkish airspace.
        Another version: to organize the "disappearance" of these "Patriots" or hand them over to the ISIS so that they can use them against the Russian aviation.
      3. 0
        9 October 2015 19: 50
        Quote: Sterlya
        For fun. Are they the Patriots who want to fight ISIS?


        The question is, to put it bluntly - "not really". It seems that these "patriots" are intended to be transported to ISIS. Nothing new: - in Afghanistan "stingers" to the Taliban, and for ISIS "patriots" (after all, these are the sons of bitches fostered by them). It is necessary to tightly close the section of the border between Syria and Turkey, there will be no surprises from our sworn partners. Yes
    3. +1
      9 October 2015 14: 31
      Naturally, if the United States Secretary of Defense is already blue, then what are they talking about. It seems to them there already, the blue niggas rule the ball.
    4. +1
      9 October 2015 14: 42
      Quote: viktorrymar
      After reading the latest news that the US Air Force bombed the second peaceful wedding in Yemen for a month, I was genuinely outraged. After all, people get married and call on guests' weddings not for US aircraft to bomb them.

      --------------------
      Weddings in Yemen seem to be bombed by Saudi aviation, the US bombing hospitals in Afghanistan (Kunduz) ... So, for reference ...
  2. +1
    9 October 2015 13: 46
    The head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, RIA Novosti reports.

    It got sick of it.
    1. +4
      9 October 2015 13: 51
      Quote: figvam
      The head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, RIA Novosti reports.

      It got sick of it.


      I'm wondering if anyone has tracked the trajectory of the calibers or not ... otherwise, it turns out then a dead poultice and not a patriot ..
      1. +1
        9 October 2015 14: 06
        Quote: vorobey
        I'm wondering if anyone has tracked the trajectory of the calibers or not ... otherwise, it turns out then a dead poultice and not a patriot ..

        It is unlikely that the Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, as I understand it, the route ran far from the border with Turkey, and it is impossible to keep the AWACS aircraft 24 hours a day.
        1. 0
          9 October 2015 14: 19
          .... It is unlikely that Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, ....

          ..... They can ... It was infa that over the sea no more than 20m, over the land about 40-50m .... "Patriot" is not able (as far as I know) to intercept targets at such an altitude .... Although I can and to feel (not an air defense officer) ... :))))))
          1. +1
            9 October 2015 14: 22
            Quote: aleks 62 next
            .... It is unlikely that Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, ....

            ..... They can ... It was infa that over the sea no more than 20m, over the land about 40-50m .... "Patriot" is not able (as far as I know) to intercept targets at such an altitude .... Although I can and to feel (not an air defense officer) ... :))))))

            I forgot to put a comma after the word Hardly.
          2. 0
            9 October 2015 14: 35
            According to its performance characteristics, it is not capable, it is generally ancient as a ram of a mammoth
    2. +2
      9 October 2015 13: 52
      Quote: figvam
      The head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter announced the intention of the Spanish leadership to leave their Patriot complexes in Turkey, RIA Novosti reports.

      It got sick of it.


      As if someone asked Spain! Ha ha ha ha laughing Or did someone in recent years hear the phrase - the military contingent of Spain or the Spanish squadron or the General Staff of Spain? Spain is a peacefully grazing cow in a sunny meadow - it has horns and hooves, but for some reason everyone milk it (especially the owner)!
  3. +15
    9 October 2015 13: 49
    Well, well ... Let's see.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/479/pnnt484.jpg
  4. 0
    9 October 2015 13: 53
    get rid of junk and unnecessary ballast !?
  5. +3
    9 October 2015 14: 02
    Abyssally to the Turks, of course. They didn’t live, they were friends with ISIS, they bombed the Kurds, and speculated in oil. And then suddenly here you are: the rooks have arrived ...
  6. +2
    9 October 2015 14: 02
    But why not bombard the wedding? There are a lot of people, the goal is big, and no one will shoot at the wedding in return. But when shooting starts at weddings in Europe, what will they sing then? In the USA, shooting has not stopped for a long time, it just stops at times.
  7. 0
    9 October 2015 14: 03
    Recycled materials in the household will do.
  8. +3
    9 October 2015 14: 10
    Spain buys American anti-aircraft missile systems for a lot of money and stores them thousands of kilometers from its territory, in some kind of Turkey ..... Why then? Doesn't it work out for me?
  9. +3
    9 October 2015 14: 11
    I wonder when Erdogan squeals about our planes in Turkish airspace, what is his opinion on this ???

    Two Greek Air Force F-16 fighters held six Turkish F-16s as targets for training flights over neutral waters in the Aegean. This was stated in the General Staff of Turkey, reports RIA Novosti.
    On the evening of 8 October, the website of the Greek news agency Pro News reported that Turkish fighter 39 times invaded Greek airspace. And three times there was a massive violation when 12 aircraft were immediately over Greek territory. Violations were recorded two days in a row in the airspace over the northeastern, central and southeastern parts of the Aegean Sea.
    1. +1
      9 October 2015 14: 17
      By the way, why are there so few Greek exclamations about this? Where are the media rummaged around?
      1. 0
        9 October 2015 17: 09
        They have democracy there toggle Iago in a swing. if only our corncracker would yell ..... the Russians are flying angry
  10. +5
    9 October 2015 14: 16
    The first successes of a major offensive by the Syrian army, or how ISIS is taken in ticks ....
  11. 0
    9 October 2015 14: 16
    It’s even hard to say anything about this.
    Well, they left and left. I don't think that our Patriots videoconferencing system will somehow interfere with something, if that))
    Well, you can, of course, furrow your brows threateningly, ask so harshly: "Dear, and against whom, in fact, are we arming ourselves? Can you slightly push you from the five Caspian states?" Well, or something like that.
    Tea in our Ministry of Foreign Affairs light heads sit, think of something to say.
    1. +1
      9 October 2015 23: 55
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Can you slightly push you out of the five Caspian states?


      And what does the five Caspian countries have to do with it? Turkey is not among them, so for reference.
  12. 0
    9 October 2015 14: 34
    Give C-300 to Iran !!!!
  13. +1
    9 October 2015 14: 41
    Spain will leave its Patriot air defense system in Turkey

    NATO’s attempt to create several kilometers of a no-fly zone on the territory of Syria bordering Turkey in order not to stir militants fighting against Assad in Turkey. It seems that a howl was raised about the flight of Russian aircraft into Turkish airspace.
  14. 0
    9 October 2015 15: 15
    Erdogan seems to have decided to play roulette, Russian roulette, maybe he is forced at gunpoint?
  15. 0
    9 October 2015 17: 06
    Let them put on this "PETRIOT", I think ours will answer it more than worthily
  16. 0
    9 October 2015 19: 28
    I just want to say to mattress makers: "Do not disgrace you."
    But I will not say wassat
  17. 0
    11 October 2015 10: 29
    Quote: Lt. air force reserve
    It is unlikely that the Gauges can fly at an altitude of 25-50 meters, as I understand it, the route ran far from the border with Turkey, and it is impossible to keep the AWACS aircraft 24 hours a day.

    From the declared by our military, the flight altitude above land is about 100-150 meters, above water - 20. And they really were outside the zone of responsibility of the "Patriots"

    Quote: aleks 62 next
    ..... They can ... It was infa that over the sea no more than 20m, over the land about 40-50m .... "Patriot" is not able (as far as I know) to intercept targets at such an altitude .... Although I can and to feel (not an air defense officer) ... :))))))

    You really were a little mistaken. Over water - everything is right, over land - 100-150 meters
    "Patriot", even one of the first - PAC-1 (MIM-104A / B) is capable of shooting down aerodynamic targets with a minimum flight height of 60 meters. But the Americans have a whole bunch of modifications:
    RAS-1(MIM-104A / B)
    RAS-2(MIM-104C)
    PAC-2 / GEM(MIM-104D)
    PAC-2 / GEM-T
    PAC-2 / GEM-C
    PAC-2 / GEM +(MIM-104E)
    RAS-3(MIM-104F)
    PAC-3 Config. 1
    PAC-3 Config. 2
    PAC-3 Config. 3
    PAC-3 MSE

    Modifications PAC-3 Config. 3 и PAC-3 MSE have EMNIP minimum height of the defeat of the order 15-20 meters, and modification PAC-2 / GEM-C adapted to defeat precisely cruise missiles. So they have technical interception capabilities

    Quote: aziatt
    According to its performance characteristics, it is not capable, it is generally ancient as a ram
    mammoth

    Of course not capable. He is American

    Quote: mpzss
    get rid of junk and unnecessary ballast !?

    Probably not. Leave the old modification, but get a newer one. And this one left in Turkey will then go for modification

    Quote: Borets
    In the process, it’s cheaper to drop them in Turkey than to export and upgrade. It looks like a suitcase without a handle)))

    It’s cheaper to leave them there for the next term of combat duty for a shift operator than to drag back and forth