Carter predicted Russia's losses in the Syrian campaign

Pentagon chief Ashton Carter said that Russia is facing unpleasant consequences in connection with its activities in Syria. RIA News.

“This (Russian actions in Syria) will have consequences for Russia itself,” the US defense secretary told reporters in Brussels. “I also expect the Russians to suffer losses in Syria in the coming days.”

Carter's statement was commented by the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Igor Konashenkov. He said:

“In their assessments of the actions of the US military in various operations carried out by them around the world, representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense have never stooped to public expectations of the death of American soldiers.”

According to him, this "statement by Carter clearly demonstrates the level of political culture and the degree of cynicism of some representatives of the American authorities."

Comments

[Vend]

The prophets then divorced in the west. Wherever you spit you get into the prophet. They don't know how to scare Russia anymore Russia should not be scared, it is necessary to negotiate with it on an equal footing

[Air Force captain]

Well, your face is "disrespectful" .... straight face not burdened with intelligence in the photo

[Alexander Romanov]

In some way he reminds me of our Gozman.

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/608/najn430.jpg

Nooo... Gozman is "our everything"!!! Look at these
"beautiful", "inspired" faces... Well, just lovely!!!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: sever.56

Look at these
"beautiful", "inspired" faces.

They say the eyes are the mirror of the soul. It's probably no coincidence that they all look alike with their eyes.

[Lelek]

Quote: sever.56

Look at these
"beautiful", "inspired" faces... Well, just lovely!!!

You are right, and moreover:

[veksha50]

Quote: Lelek

You are right, and moreover:

A herd of pig-nosed Russophobes...

[dmitrich]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

How does he remind me of our Gozman

if you poke your eye out with your finger!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Dmitry

if you poke your eye out with your finger!

Maybe with a screwdriver?

[53-Sciborskiy]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In some way he reminds me of our Gozman.

How much they want Russia to screw up, it is not the fight against terrorism that is important for them, but to show the whole world that the "Yankees" and their satellites are just a beacon of democracy and only they are the most important in the entire universe.

[Dormidont2]

I hope the "president s" defense systems are on the turntables and dryers

[Varyag_1973]

For Alexander Romanov. Yeah, well, how much does it look like our Bunshu! (K / f. "Ivan Vasilievich changes his profession")

[Peterhof 73]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In some way he reminds me of our Gozman.

"Oh, it doesn't look like it, oh hack! You know how to say it, that one has a smarter face. But-but-but! I'll ask you not to touch your face"
film "Ivan Vasilievich changes profession"

In general, yes, they are chicks of the same nest.

[meriem1]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In some way he reminds me of our Gozman.

Reminds! Only he is not OURS!!! About them!!!! That's why it reminds me.

[Peterhof 73]

Quote: Captain Air Force

Well, your face is "disrespectful" .... straight face not burdened with intelligence in the photo

Rather, a face beyond recognition disfigured by the American intellect.

[iConst]

Quote: Wend

The prophets then divorced in the west. Wherever you spit you get into the prophet. They don't know how to scare Russia anymore Russia should not be scared, it is necessary to negotiate with it on an equal footing

So, what else can they say? Unless Russia bombed a single excavator in all its sorties! And there are two of them!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Of course they will ... Russia is not used to helping from afar ..! If it’s real to wet it! But from afar we can and very accurately ...!

[740]

Quote: MIKHAN

Russia is not used to helping from afar ..! If we get wet it's real!

It's right. Russia very often fights instead of the country it supports. Let's see what will happen after the new year. I hope I'm wrong.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: 740

Quote: MIKHAN

Russia is not used to helping from afar ..! If we get wet it's real!

It's right. Russia very often fights instead of the country it supports. Let's see what will happen after the new year. I hope I'm wrong.

I advise you to flee from Russia ..! There is no place for whiners like that. (although they usually sit and wait in the wings ..))

[740]

Quote: MIKHAN

I advise you to flee from Russia ..!

Well, those who yell the loudest run first.

[Darwin]

Plus you and then someone put a minus

[beitar]

Meehan is the coolest couch patriot I know. For he knows that they don’t take heart patients into the army, so he is ready to get involved in all wars

[veksha50]

Quote: MIKHAN

If we get wet it's real!

Hmm ... Missile Defense Death Day...

I'll have to write it down in my "bib-commemoration" ... Now every year on October 7 I will drink to Putin's health and the death of NORAD ...

And - with great pleasure, and not from a small basin ...

[Major Yurik]

Well, the crankcase has been pierced, it happens, it’s not fucking rummaging around off-road! The Yankees fighters, and without prophecies, only the lazy did not pile on the tinsel. Let him swear, he is sick, and there is a reference!

[Andru]

Gentlemen Americans, I think you understand that there will be a "response". We are polite people, we will not threaten in advance. It's just that an American plane will fall somewhere, or an American armored car will run into something. We don't want Russian wars. But we are not afraid of it.

[Pavel Vereshchagin]

We don't want Russian wars.

[Volzhanin]

They told the striped degenerates - do not wake up famously, do not poke sticks into a sleeping bear.
Now it's too late to drink Borjomi - the war with the mattress will be to the bitter end. The end of America and our Victory!
It cannot be otherwise - everyone knows this.

But we, Russian people, are magnanimous, and if the Ameripeds get away to their continent and are guaranteed to stop mischief all over the planet, so be it - WE WILL SPARE THEM!
(But we will pull out the teeth anyway).

[Buffalo]

The toad is strangling the Americans - hundreds of their instructors have already been killed by our air strikes and cruise missiles, as well as by the Syrian army.

[Altona]

Quote: Wend

The prophets then divorced in the west.

-------------------
And why did they stick pluses to these "prophets"? Liked the article?

[SSR]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Wend

The prophets then divorced in the west.

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And why did they stick pluses to these "prophets"? Liked the article?

Everyone liked Konashenkov's answer. He told the truth, our statements never sank to such a level, and this is the real truth of the level to which the Western establishment has degraded.

“In their assessments of the actions of the US military in various operations conducted by them around the world, representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense have never stooped to public expectations of the death of American soldiers

[vlade99]

Quote: Wend

The prophets then divorced in the west.

What to expect from a helpline for potential suicides? He is also attached to Omabe for this. He did not appear to have been asked to advise others.

[hydrox]

Quote: Wend

she needs to negotiate

The Syrians have enough Russian MANPADS - something is not painfully shot down, both Russians and coalition aircraft, so MANPADS have nothing to do with it. The methods of using aviation are such that MANPADS do not reach them.
It doesn’t reach me otherwise: how is it that the head of the US Department of Defense put such a stupid fool that he DOESN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND that for every Russian shot down by no matter who in Syria, the States will have to pay a tenth price, given Russia’s superiority in aviation equipment, air defense systems, electronic warfare equipment and, most importantly, Russian motivation to win!

[udincev]

Quote: hydrox

I don’t get anything else: how is it that such a stupid fool was put in charge of the US Department of Defense that he DOESN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND

With such a policy, no fools can be put on representative offices. Therefore, we see "psaki" in all varieties.

[brisk]

Quote: hydrox

DOES NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND that for every Russian shot down by no matter who in Syria, the States will have to pay a tenth price, given Russia's superiority in aircraft, air defense systems, electronic warfare equipment and, most importantly, Russian motivation to win!

Well, so what? In 1965 - 1973 the ratio of losses of personnel of the US troops and the Vietnamese troops fighting against them was 1:18. For one killed US soldier, there were 18 killed fighters of the Vietnamese people.

[Juborg]

Something today, too many threats were printed by the site, which were made yesterday and the day before yesterday. What is it for?

[avt]

Quote: juborg

Something today, too many threats were printed by the site, which were made yesterday and the day before yesterday. What is it for?

Elementary Watson. Just remember what McCain said - "Russians are bombing the CIA!" Then Erdogan yelled - "I won't buy gas, I won't buy a nuclear power plant!" Well, now estimate who exactly at the command posts and near the rear warehouses and base camps ours covered. Do you think there were natives sitting in the bunkers, on whom the general people don't give a shit? Here are our "coalition partners" calculated for a week the material losses from the invested, not disbursed ... $ 500 million and the losses not of the natives, but quite their own personnel, "travel allowances". and howled.

[Mareman Vasilich]

He did not prophesy, he hinted, threatened. In simple terms, this means that they say they have saturated ISIS with air defense systems and they will begin to use it.

[Max_Bauder]

To have cha in the mouth withered Carter. What good thread can you say?!

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Max_Bauder

Carter.

I also found a predictor! Better predict yours!

[Kent0001]

One gets the feeling that there are only idiots and degenerates in leadership positions. It's the norm there.

[Andrea]

It is necessary to answer for the bazaar. Although what am I talking about. When were they responsible for the bazaar? Amnesia always occurs.

[KazaK Bo]

Andrea
You have to answer for the market ....

What is this? What does it mean? It turns out: "WASHINGTON REGIONAL COMMITTEE" DECIDED TO SUPPLY AIR DEFENSE WEAPONS TO TERRORISTS ???! Or direct US intervention on the side of ISIS?
For this, the amers WILL HAVE TO RESPOND!!!!

[hydrox]

And now it becomes unimportant after the speech of this fool, WHO will bring down the Russian car in the Syrian sky:: we are there legally at the request of the legitimate ruler and have the right to protection, so any OUR plane that crashed (especially "with signs of violent death") can be regarded by us as the action of the Americans (it does not matter who and how shot him down).
This also gives us reason to deploy S-300 systems throughout Syria and really turn the sky of Syria into a NO-FLY zone for the operations of the American coalition, and for this we will need (for a start) just one division of these air defense systems to achieve a mass refusal of coalition pilots from performing combat assignments.

[aleks 62 next]

... This also gives us reason to deploy S-300 systems throughout Syria and really turn the sky of Syria into a NO-FLY zone for the operations of the American coalition, and for this we will need (for a start) just one division of these air defense systems to achieve a mass failure of coalition pilots from combat missions.

... Have you seen a map of Syria ...???? Roughly speaking - a triangle with legs 400X 400 km approximately .... Covering everything from Latakia will not work .... The firing range of the S-300 will not allow ... Somewhere only half ... And the Americans (with associates) fly in another, inaccessible corner .... Something like that .... Although the idea is good ....

[Bombardier]

Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - bravo to you! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!

[Agent Putin]

Carter barks, and the bombs on his favorite toy keep coming.

[vovanpain]

This scarecrow would be better off reporting how many losses mattress mattresses suffer in Afghanistan, Iraq and other places

[Averias]

Quote: "I also expect the Russians to suffer losses in Syria in the coming days." He forgot to add: And we will contribute to this. Obscurantism rolls over the "hegemons".

[kil 31]

I also expect the Russians to suffer losses in Syria in the coming days.” We understand the hint of your actions. I expect that the Assadites will soon bring us new stingers. Which will then be in the right place in the Russian Federation.

[veksha50]

Quote: keel 31

I expect that the Assadites will soon bring us new stingers. Which will then be in the right place of the Russian Federation.

Kil31, I didn’t understand something ... Why do we need stingers in the Russian Federation ??? Rebuild the phrase, otherwise I read and read, but I did not fully understand ...

You didn’t seem to be noticed in anti-Russian sentiments ... So it’s better if the stingers break down on the soil of Syria, and not somewhere in the Caucasus mountains or somewhere else ...

[kil 31]

Quote: veksha50

Quote: keel 31

I expect that the Assadites will soon bring us new stingers. Which will then be in the right place of the Russian Federation.

Kil31, I didn’t understand something ... Why do we need stingers in the Russian Federation ??? Rebuild the phrase, otherwise I read and read, but I did not fully understand ...

You didn’t seem to be noticed in anti-Russian sentiments ... So it’s better if the stingers break down on the soil of Syria, and not somewhere in the Caucasus mountains or somewhere else ...

I apologize for the vagueness. I meant the research institutes, they will put new ones, and not the old ones from the time of the Afghan. That's how I am for such texts.

[veksha50]

Quote: keel 31

That's how I am for such texts.

Stop it hurts!!! Or is there one bone??? Well then oh...

[beitar]

Quote: Kil 31

Quote: veksha50

Quote: keel 31

I expect that the Assadites will soon bring us new stingers. Which will then be in the right place of the Russian Federation.

Kil31, I didn’t understand something ... Why do we need stingers in the Russian Federation ??? Rebuild the phrase, otherwise I read and read, but I did not fully understand ...

You didn’t seem to be noticed in anti-Russian sentiments ... So it’s better if the stingers break down on the soil of Syria, and not somewhere in the Caucasus mountains or somewhere else ...

I apologize for the vagueness. I meant the research institutes, they will put new ones, and not the old ones from the time of the Afghan. That's how I am for such texts.

And why do you need stingers in the research institute? What will they see in them? Indeed, in military technologies, Russia is several heads higher than the West, at least such an opinion develops after reading this forum

[sinukvl]

Oh those predictors! Just to yap. Interestingly, they don’t want to predict anything to their Smoked One, huh? And then I also decided to go into predictors:

[Decathlon]

When my friend, a businessman, in the harsh 90s, the brothers asked "Are you responsible for the bazaar ?!", The answer was: "Partly ...". So, then brothers, and here, it seems, the character is not far off (or a narrow-minded character) from big politics!

[tongilguk]

Carter's statement clearly demonstrates the level of political culture and the degree of cynicism of some representatives of the American government

I would like to see other representatives. They just don't show anything. Do they really exist?

[Siberia55]

Low, mean, American...

[dsi]

I also expect the Russians to suffer losses in Syria in the coming days.”

That's an order? Yes, break off the bastard!

[bastard]

“This (Russian actions in Syria) will have consequences for Russia itself,” the US defense secretary told reporters in Brussels.

Hmm, I wonder when there will be consequences for the US and the West for their actions around the world? The list is long, I will not enumerate, you know.

[Walking]

That's because the creatures themselves do everything to make them hated.

[Redfox3k]

Pentagon chief Ashton Carter said that Russia will face unpleasant consequences in connection with its activities in Syria

Yes, as if in response, all sorts of troubles can be obtained in connection with the activities of the United States in any region of the world. American planes seem to be flying over Iraq and Afghanistan ... while they are flying, and there the Yankees have a lot of ill-wishers.

[Gor-1974]

Anyone can make such predictions, for example, I predict that crankcase will soon have an upset stomach and the subsequent processes following this ....

[bastard]

Quote: Gor-1974

, so I predict, for example, soon an upset stomach in crankcase and subsequent subsequent processes...

Will he die heroically from diarrhea? Let your words be to God’s ears!

[asar]

“I also expect the Russians to suffer losses in Syria in the coming days.”

Here is a bastard, american bitch! Indeed, the height of cynicism!

representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense have never stooped to public expectations of the death of American soldiers.

Well, I am not a representative of the RF Ministry of Defense and therefore I can say:
In the near future we will expect the death of American soldiers! (somewhere in the Middle East)
S-130 "landed", there will be something else soon
Get it, bitches!
Cynicism in response to cynicism!
It's high time to talk to the Cynics in a language they understand!

[Nahum]

It seems that the "moment of truth" is coming for the striped ones. They clearly did not expect the high effectiveness of Russian airborne strikes against IS facilities, with which they had been ingloriously "fighting" for a whole year. More precisely, they provided cover. IG is their project and the striped ones are not interested in its elimination. Sowing chaos, the United States is pursuing its own, purely selfish, goals. They can no longer hide behind the "fight against terrorism". It is necessary either to really fight him, or to stand up for him, i.e. fight against those who destroy ISIS. With Russia. Only the fear of guaranteed retribution will keep these people from going crazy. They are afraid for their skins!

[RUSIVAN]

“In their assessments of the actions of the US military in various operations carried out by them around the world, representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense have never stooped to public expectations of the death of American soldiers.”
This is what distinguishes Russians from Americans (politicians), who, if not Russians, understand the grief and suffering of war, who, if not Russians, wish for peace, so that they would never have to shed blood, BUT ...
-Do the Russians want wars?!
- No, but we are ready for this ...

[Wolka]

Carter gets tired of expecting Russian losses, rather, the Yankees and other Saudi bastards will wash themselves in the sky of Syria ...

[The boat]

Quote: Volka

Carter gets tired of expecting Russian losses,

and why, exactly? As recently as today there was an article "Russian Mi-24P helicopters supported the offensive operation of the Syrian military." And this is no longer a walking attack on IGOsh bunkers with "dryers" in the absence of enemy air defense systems. So, patriotic optimism is good, but in war it is like in war.

[anderles66]

Well actually! What are the bastards? Okay bitten for the soft spot McCain. This is like our Zhirinovsky. But the official of the military department and similar predictions are incompatible. Although, given his "professionalism" as a physicist, this is not surprising. I think that real warriors, even American ones, will never say such things.

[asar]

I think that real warriors, even American ones, will never say such things.

You're right! A real warrior, because a real officer, and not a yap "don't know who"!
Already wrote like this:
It just so happened that with one special forces officer, the states swelled after joint affairs in Asia (and this was, oddly enough!)
His words - "You kept this country under complete control for ten years, I'm afraid we would not be able to!"

[Darwin]

Here Vladimir Volfovich should not be put on a par with this McCain. Volfovich has a specific behavior, but basically he has normal ideas.

[MolGro]

a bit from the future

[veksha50]

"I also expect that in the coming days the Russians will suffer losses in Syria"...

If you start supplying IS and "moderate" MANPADS, and maybe something cooler...

And according to the US instigation, Urkaina is already going to deliver air defense systems to Syria along with crews, this has already been openly stated ...

Two of your fighters ran away yesterday from one Russian ??? So he didn't attack.

It's time to introduce a no-fly zone for the coalition over the whole of Syria ... And deliver long-range air defense systems ...

The only pity is that there are problems with delivery ... Yes, and Turkey with the Bosphorus inspires a headache ...
However, we already have nothing to be ashamed of, and there is nothing to be afraid of ... Having said "A", you need to say "B", then "C" (Washington), and so on ...

[DMoroz]

Yes, along the way, they are now quietly starting to supply ISIS air defense systems through their Saudi satellites, it’s a painfully direct statement

[Krsk]

then they will sign the death warrant for their vyserk "moderate" oppositionists ...

[veksha50]

Quote: KrSk

then they sign the death warrant to their vyserki "moderate" oppositionists ...

Why they" ??? And what about ours and Assad, didn’t they sign???

[sl22277]

We will eliminate the terrorist threat to our country on the distant approaches. Every ISIS member killed in Syria is an ISIS member who did not come to fight in Russia.
By eliminating ISIS in Syria and Iraq, we will cut off the supply of smuggled oil to world markets, which is sold at dumping prices. This action alone will pay for any military operation against ISIS within months, if not weeks. Russia will establish itself as the main “security provider” in the Middle East. This position is expensive in the most direct sense, since the main trade routes of the planet intersect in the Middle East and the main sources of hydrocarbons are also located there.
It's simple, the fewer terrorists walk the earth, the calmer the world will immediately become. If these are "consequences" for Russia, then for Washington it's like a "Sickle in the Eggs"!

[Mountain shooter]

And here you don’t even have to be a prophet - they’re preparing a dirty trick. And I would like to prepare something in response - but you can’t.

[Krsk]

oracle your mother panties erase ghouls ...

[guznorodov]

God! how many idiots in the world. They would better solve their problems within the country.

[brr1]

How many American people are there in Afghanistan?

[asar]

How many American people are there in Afghanistan?

Good day!
As of October:
The total number of the entire composition of ISAF is 105 thousand people.
Amer. contingent - 68 t.
Brit. contingent - 9500 t. people.
Germany - 4700 people
Italy - 4000 people
Etc.

[asar]

Brit. contingent - 9500 t. people.

Amendment - 9500 people.
And then someone else will think about the "grand" Brit. presence!

[brr1]

And how many aircraft? It will be necessary to turn them into lethal vehicles.

[ivan bogomolov]

Stupidity, cynicism, arrogance, etc. and so on. and all this with an American smile of hypocrisy, mudo ... ringing in one word.

[anfreezer]

The next time you have, sts...ki, God forbid (or ) some "Chinook" will collapse in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, you will drag it on camels, and even better on yourself

[Oman 47]

The laws of physics have not yet been repealed.

The angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection.
The Russian "THANK YOU" will follow...

PS: something about the "Caspian hello" mattresses like a tongue in the opu shoved?
SLOW-THOUGHT?!

[Diviz]

The Yankees do not live quietly. It was necessary to involve Russia in the war and find a topic for discussion about the further development of NATO. Only the problem lies in the corruption of NATO generals. We need to burst this bubble. Russia needs to show its best weapons.

[ssn18]

Well, what a pancake for these exceptional people, wherever they work, if only not to work, but to scratch their tongues. Either Nulandikha teaches how to part with money, then Carter, instead of taking care of his army, climbs into Nostradamus. Apparently their smoked does not load to the fullest, so they are looking for shabashki.

[Stariknv]

The US is at war all over the world, but Russia has never predicted their losses, which means the US has fallen below the belt.

[4ekist]

The stupid face of an American "politician". There are many.

[dchegrinec]

The degree of US hysteria is directly proportional to the degree of success in the fight against ISIS. Our business is to hammer, and their business is to drink valerian.

[sir_obs]

Again the Americans are nervous

[VL33]

Ashton distributed cookies in 404 countries and again some Ashton says that he is a prophet. Well, Rus', so "Let's wait and see" Amer bastards We wet and we will wet IG not only in the toilet!

[falikreutov]

Quote: Wend

Russia should not be scared, it is necessary to negotiate with it on an equal footing

With whom do we negotiate "on an equal footing"? Not with the FSA, is it? There will be a lot of honor!

[Vyacheslav 1359]

Shame on you, Ashton Carter!

[Olegovi4]

Quote: Vyacheslav 1359

Shame on you, Ashton Carter!

Yes, there are already stigmas and there is no place to put them.

[Reptiloid]

So much evil that can no longer be contained. Many break out. If only they had a heart attack, a stroke, paralysis, blindness, impotence, etc. from this truth. Everyone and everyone. Let them live in this form, in their own impurity.

[Landwarrior]

"Here ur ... ugly people" (c)
It seems like we are doing one thing, but how can they want to spoil Russia, don’t feed them bread.
However, if you remember that during WWII, he and Hitler traded almost until 1944, nothing surprising

[engineer74]

This, as I understand it, is already an open threat! Because of ISIS and "moderate" terrorists, did they decide to wipe the planet into powder? Here, either someone is desperately bluffing, or the stakes in the "game" are much higher than we think ...

[Oman 47]

Ebli.e, sorry, the erysipelas of a preoccupied Carter - resembles the shriveled *opus of an offended elephant suffering from constipation for many days ...

[vladimirw]

According to him, this "statement by Carter clearly demonstrates the level of political culture and the degree of cynicism of some representatives of the American authorities"
This is not cynicism, it means he let it slip, the Americans shipped MANPADS there

[PValery53]

To all sorts of "predictions" of Russia's enemies, we answer: "Pip your tongue!!"

[Lelek]

(I also expect the Russians to suffer casualties in Syria in the coming days.)

This bitch is waiting. This means that the ISIS will be armed with new iron. Mdya, there were no limits to American cynicism. Hey, liberals, aren't you constantly talking about America being more of a friend than an adversary? What, will you still lick ... your grantor? I despise both.

[Papin]

That's it, ah!
Well, nothing, he will be rewarded for what he did or said. You can't fool Karma!
Ominusoval her muzchina capitally!

[gukoyan]

Predictor))
They just hit him to the quick, so he rages like a youngster.

[python2a]

For the Pentagon, the unpleasant results have already begun, apparently, they are vehemently supporting ISIS and this is surfacing.

[Max repp]

We just need to explain to these non-specific boys in Russian that if Russian planes start falling from the sky, then the planes of our “partners” will start falling after them - forgive me, Lord, if suddenly “Syrian freedom fighters” start blowing up something on the streets of our cities, then here “freedom fighters (for example, Afghanistan”) will then begin to create all sorts of obscenities on the streets of their cities.

[afrikanez]

This is not Carter, but some kind of Nostradamus. Every second person there is like this.

[TanakaKenshin]

Gentlemen, this is just rudeness!

They organized, you know, sodom, hell and a brothel all over the world, including on our border, they insult, are rude and threaten. They're immature, damn it.

SVR with gingerbread to them in the southern states! To make it distasteful...