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Signal to the West is an expert on the participation of the Caspian flotilla in the Syrian war.

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Russia announced on Wednesday, October 7, the use of cruise missiles launched from ships in the Caspian Sea by terrorists from the Islamic State group. 26 rockets covered a distance of one and a half thousand kilometers over the territory of the three countries, before hitting the alleged targets of the Islamists. French expert, coordinator of security programs of the French Institute of International Relations Korentan Bruistolen believes that the goal was not military, but, above all, political. Moscow decided to demonstrate the power of the Russian weapons potential adversaries in the West and arms importers in the Middle East. This was Korentan Brüstolen told in an interview with RFI.

Korentan Brüstolen: What we see now in Syria is the desire to demonstrate that Moscow broke the Western monopoly on the use of this type of cruise missiles. Typically, such cruise missiles are used at the very beginning of the operation in order to take the enemy by surprise. And very few states have such weapons, in particular, the United States, as well as some other countries that have bought them mostly from the USA too. France, they have, but a smaller range.

Moscow wants to demonstrate that the technological gap between the West and Russia has narrowed. The abyss, from which Russia suffered for a long time. But beyond that, in this one must see the desire of the Russians to create an image of a great power, which can intervene in external conflict in a manner that only the United States could afford before. And this was a confirmation of Putin’s speech from the UN podium, where he presented himself as the “authorized representative” of the alternative to the United States and the West.

That is, it is more a message to rivals and opponents of Russia than the real need to use such weapons to solve combat missions in Syria?

I think this is actually a demonstration of ability. The real goal (here I’m not talking about the physical goal in the face of the “Islamic State) is the West and its allies, to whom Moscow wants to send a clear message.

But in general, is there any point in using cruise missiles against insurgents? The Americans used cruise missiles at the start of the war in Afghanistan after 11 on September 2001, and many then said with irony that they were firing cruise missiles at pick-ups that cost several thousand dollars.

Cruise missiles embody the Western model, which implies that since we do not want to take risks, do not want to approach the target, we will use systems that have an exorbitant cost of millions of dollars. This can be justified when we are opposed to an air defense system and want to neutralize its facilities before proceeding with the use of forces aviation in a calmer and less risky rhythm.

But in today's situation there is no risk of opposition to air defense, because Russia is an ally of Bashar Assad, who, in turn, is the only one in this conflict that possesses anti-aircraft complexes. That is, here the purpose of this operation is different.

The same effect could be achieved by military aircraft, which is participating in the battles for the second week?

Yes, I think that, by and large, cruise missiles may not have been the best way to deliver the required amount of explosives to the target. They definitely had an alternative.

In addition to the political and diplomatic message, can we see a demonstration for potential customers? After all, the countries of this region are now in the process of re-equipment.

Yes, a demonstration of opportunities may be needed, on the one hand, in order to intimidate potential adversaries, for example, the West or allies of the West. But on the other hand, try to fill up the list of orders of the Russian defense industry.

We have little detailed information about the goals. As you said, is this type of missile usually used against objects that are well fortified, against bunkers?

Cruise missiles are usually used against immovable objects. They can not hit mobile targets, because the guidance system does not allow it. Thus, they are used against infrastructure, against buildings more or less fortified. Not necessarily super strengthened - it depends on the warhead, it depends on the flight path. But in any case, strikes are directed at buildings or at stationary objects. Such a missile is not intended to strike at the front line, for example, a cruise missile may not be suitable to support a strike by ground forces. This should be a blow deep into targets that are of strategic interest, such as the command headquarters.

Do you think the Russians warned their allies in the region about striking, be it Iranians, Iraqis or Syrians? This is the first part of the question. And the second is that if the NATO forces are still nearby, they should have noticed what happened?

Ideally, we have the right to hope that Russia warned not only the allies and the states over which these cruise missiles flew over, that is, Iran, Iraq and so on, but also the armed forces of the coalition. I don't know if that was the case. It would be interesting to find out. Exactly, given the presence in the region of reconnaissance aircraft sent there by the coalition, we should have noticed these missiles before they hit the targets.

This is the first such case, because I don’t remember that this type of missile was used during the Georgian campaign.?

Yes, I think this is really the first such case. In Georgia, they inflicted quite classic air-to-ground or ground-to-ground strikes; they were short range, nothing that could have a distance of one and a half thousand kilometers. There is indeed a strategic application. It is a political and diplomatic tool to declare that Russia is a power that can perform strategic tasks at long distances, and not just near its borders, that it is a power that can influence regional conflicts beyond what they call their "near abroad".
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  1. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 10 October 2015 06: 31 New
    25
    What other expert did not speak out about this?)
    1. the polar
      the polar 10 October 2015 07: 50 New
      11
      In connection with the expert’s stated position and opinion, an immediate question arises, and to which category of countries do France, Australia, Italy, Germany, Britain belong, as the leading countries of Western Europe, to regional or world powers?
      Now the West estimates this factor solely by the volume of GDP produced by the country per unit of time, and impunity in international robbery. At the same time, excluding such parameters as territory, population, education and the level of scientific and technical progress, the armed forces and their quality, possession of the enemy’s weapons of mass destruction.
      1. Temples
        Temples 10 October 2015 08: 36 New
        22
        Какой цинизм в высказывании этого "эксперта"
        He does not care about the Syrians. He does not care about ISIS.
        For him, these are just reasons for speaking out.
        Fascists under new masks destroy people.
        Thousands of people died.
        Millions of people are forced to flee.
        According to him, Russia does not fight evil spirits, but only demonstrates opportunities in the West.
        Yes, you’re an expert!
        What would you say and in what tone if these creatures cut your family.
        And what would you say about the people who came to save your family and your life.
        A demonstration of power is either help and the fight against terror.
        And it’s easy to climb with tips on how to deliver ammunition to the head of a terrorist.
        And if during this delivery you put in pants, so go wash, otherwise the stench has spread all over the world.
        1. djqnbdjqnb
          djqnbdjqnb 10 October 2015 11: 17 New
          +7
          Quote: Temples
          According to him, Russia does not fight evil spirits, but only demonstrates opportunities in the West.
          Yes, you’re an expert!

          In fact, both. And we fight against evil spirits, and we demonstrate the possibilities. and not so much to the West (although to them, too), but to the USA
          1. Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna 10 October 2015 13: 58 New
            14
            Life truth



            I have no other explanation ...



            One step ahead



            О "Дружбе"

      2. hrych
        hrych 10 October 2015 08: 42 New
        34
        Quote: Polar
        Now the West estimates this factor solely by the volume of GDP produced by the country per unit time.

        When false rating agencies evaluate GDP, they don’t reveal one nuance, if we take the GDP of Western countries, then the lion's share of their superiority over others is the service sector. They have the same Hollywood account, where one film can cost over a billion for a price, etc. If you take the Forbes list, then Bill Gates is in the lead with his virtual production, i.e. virtually nothing, media moguls, such as owners of CNN, etc. And there is also a huge securities market. If we take the share of real industrial production and agriculture, then we will not see our monstrous lag, and given the fact that the population of our country is half the size of the United States and three times the EU, it turns out that we are completely at the level. Sanctions have shown that we are self-sufficient, incl. in industry and agricultural. In the field of high technologies, on the crest of scientific and technical progress, for example, in the nuclear industry, space rocket, jet engine building and naturally defense industry, we surpass them in almost everything. They are not self-sufficient in raw materials, definitely, they are not self-sufficient in these areas, so they remove restrictions on the supply of heptyl because their EU space program, depending on our chemists, and NASA so far only rests on our engines ...
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 10 October 2015 10: 03 New
          +9
          Do not give heptyl! Let them fly on methane. Which they themselves develop from fright ...
          1. anip
            anip 10 October 2015 11: 55 New
            -9
            Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
            Do not give heptyl!

            Do not give to whom? Russia? Well, in your opinion, it turns out because the restrictions on the sale of heptyl to Russia have been lifted. When will the news google?
        2. anip
          anip 10 October 2015 11: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: hrych
          They are not self-sufficient in raw materials, definitely, they are not self-sufficient in these areas, so they remove restrictions on the supply of heptyl because their EU space program, depending on our chemists

          Well yes, and so they remove the restrictions on the sale of heptyl (and not only it) to Russia.. To Russia, and not vice versa.
          1. Berthan
            Berthan 10 October 2015 15: 10 New
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            Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
            Do not give heptyl! Let them fly on methane. Which they themselves develop from fright ...

            Quote: anip
            Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
            Do not give heptyl!

            Do not give to whom? Russia? Well, in your opinion, it turns out because the restrictions on the sale of heptyl to Russia have been lifted. When will the news google?

            Quote: anip
            Quote: hrych
            They are not self-sufficient in raw materials, definitely, they are not self-sufficient in these areas, so they remove restrictions on the supply of heptyl because their EU space program, depending on our chemists

            Well yes, and so they remove the restrictions on the sale of heptyl (and not only it) to Russia.. To Russia, and not vice versa.





            And at least someone bothered to search for this topic on the websites of official news agencies? I didn’t find anything like it ...
          2. hrych
            hrych 10 October 2015 21: 56 New
            +2
            I agree, I launched a death row, but Roscosmos has no dependence on heptyl and Russia does not buy it, and they worry that their programs will suffer because of sanctions. In August, NASA extended the contract with Roscosmos as monopolists for the delivery of astronauts to the ISS.
            http://www.rg.ru/2015/07/08/geptil-anons.html
        3. Igluxnumx
          Igluxnumx 10 October 2015 11: 58 New
          +6
          Согласен, что есть области науки и техники, где мы впереди планеты всей. Например - АЭС нового поколения! С/х в Краснодарском крае выдает пшеницы по 45-50 центнеров с га (помнится в СССР было 12-18). Но есть и отставания: технологии микроэлектроники, производство радиодеталей, отсутствие собственной операционной системы. Любые "партнеры" сильных не любят, но уважают. Нам ничего не остается, как ликвидировать свои пробелы. Было бы понимание руководства и желание.
        4. the polar
          the polar 10 October 2015 19: 07 New
          0
          Quote: hrych
          we are self-sufficient including in industry and agricultural. In the field of high technologies, on the crest of scientific and technical progress, for example, in the nuclear industry, space rocket, jet engine building and naturally defense industry, we surpass them in almost everything.

          Такой пустомельный патриотизм гораздо вреднее целого батальона диверсантов. И наших "точек превосходства" пока наблюдается единицы, причем в самых стратегически значимых областях науки, промышленности и с/хозяйства.
          This must be soberly assessed and understood that we still have a chance to restore everything that the liberal government destroyed in thirty years, while the main enemy calmed down, relaxed and began to rot. But this is possible under one condition: change the model of economic development and remove all liberal cadres from power. Everything! at the very root! And as quickly as possible.
      3. skeket
        skeket 10 October 2015 14: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Polar
        In connection with the expert’s position and opinion expressed, an immediate question arises, and to which category of countries do France, Australia, Italy, Germany, Britain belong, as the leading countries of Western Europe, to regional or world powers?
        Now the West estimates this factor solely by the volume of GDP produced by the country per unit time,

        Только военная мощь может причислить к Мировым державам. Не зря же Совбез ООН организовали 5 стран, обладающие на тот момент оружием страшной разрушительной силы, не зря же им дали право "вето", чтобы они могли заблокировать какую-либо законную агрессию или несправедливость против них, не начиная войны в ответ.
        1. the polar
          the polar 10 October 2015 19: 21 New
          +3
          Quote: skeket
          Quote: Polar
          In connection with the expert’s position and opinion expressed, an immediate question arises, and to which category of countries do France, Australia, Italy, Germany, Britain belong, as the leading countries of Western Europe, to regional or world powers?
          Now the West estimates this factor solely by the volume of GDP produced by the country per unit time,

          Только военная мощь может причислить к Мировым державам. Не зря же Совбез ООН организовали 5 стран, обладающие на тот момент оружием страшной разрушительной силы, не зря же им дали право "вето", чтобы они могли заблокировать какую-либо законную агрессию или несправедливость против них, не начиная войны в ответ.

          I agree with you. But the military power of the Russian state can only rest on a society consolidated by the Idea, high-class free higher education for young people, which is the only one that can, taking all the best from the older generation, rebuild modern industrial production and Science, turn the agricultural sector into a highly productive production that fully provides food independence of the country. To revive the world's best free medicine and destroy the current liberal-financial web, along with spiders. There is no other solution.
          1. mouse
            mouse 10 October 2015 19: 43 New
            0
            Agree to 1000%
    2. Gorjelin
      Gorjelin 10 October 2015 09: 32 New
      +3
      The interview comes down to repeating the same phrase
      Moscow wants to send a clear message


      And nothing more clever and interesting, such an interview any ordinary can give)
    3. Finches
      Finches 10 October 2015 10: 58 New
      +2
      In any case, this is good, because where one black boy sits and is sad ..... laughing
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 October 2015 12: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        In any case, this is good, because where one black boy sits and is sad ....

        -------------------
        Ну Обама в общем то уже и не мальчонка...Между прочим, учитывая невероятный прессинг на него, ведёт он себя в общем то достойно, в отличие от своих ястребов-всяких Столтенбергов, Катчеров, Маккейнов, Руби...У Маккейна сразу истерика началась и он свою заветную мантру стал орать "Бомбить, бомбить, бомбить"...Другой захотел сразу транспорт с ПЗРК ИГИЛу отослать, третий велел нажать кнопочки тактических ядерных ракет...А Обама в интервью опроверг слова что "Путин пытается отобрать лидерство" и надо его немедленно защемить...Мне показалось, что Обама пытается достойно отыграть ситуацию: Минск-2 продлили, пушки на Украине отводят, всё таки позитив есть и ситуация разряжается...
    4. Rarahin
      Rarahin 10 October 2015 23: 30 New
      +2
      Эксперт Брюстолен: "Совершенно точно, учитывая присутствие в регионе самолетов-разведчиков, отправленных туда коалицией, мы должны были заметить эти ракеты, до того как они попали по целям."

      US State Department, John Kirby: "I can’t confirm at all that the Russians did it at all."


      Так что ключевая фраза эксперта "мы должны были заметить".
      Should.
      But they did not notice.

      That’s why they quickly composed a fake about the detected missile failures and the fall in Iran.

      Actually in the states, this news is spinning on all channels for the second day.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 October 2015 06: 35 New
    24
    it is rather a message to rivals and opponents of Russia

    I believe that this, of course, is primarily a demonstration for the West. You look at how the Americans were taken aback at first, and then fell into a heart-rending cry that the missiles were also unsuitable and that four had fallen before reaching. For them, it was a shock and their intelligence once again screwed up.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 10 October 2015 06: 55 New
      18
      Это ответ Западу от "региональной державы" laughing Wash Obama
    2. Russian Uzbek
      Russian Uzbek 10 October 2015 07: 40 New
      +5
      "рекламная акция" "Россоборонпрома"?
    3. Skif83
      Skif83 10 October 2015 08: 25 New
      22
      It is clear that it was a green whistle to the west, that we have something to meet and carry out, we are not the same as 10 years ago.
      More important, in my opinion, this phrase
      But besides this, in this you need to see the desire of the Russians to create the image of a great power,
      .
      Those. to us, and at the same time to the whole world, they are strenuously imposing the position of vainly puffing up to become a superpower of the world dwarf.
      These stsuki already forgot how trembling 30 years ago.
      They do not understand that Russia is historically EMPIRE!
      And empire is the essence, superpower!
      We do not need to prove anything.
      And we do not need to look back at the jackal barking, we need to do our own thing, to defend our interests against all odds!
      I repeat, RUSSIA THE BIGGEST AND RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!
      This is what lies at the basis of all conflicts and wars of Russia with anyone for centuries.
      Nothing has changed, discard the husks of rhetoric, what's in the balance? Russia alone owns unimaginable wealth! HERE IT IS!

      Как только власть имущие начинают заигрывать с "партнерами", Россия обязательно что-то теряет, становится слабее.
      We are a SELF-SUFFICIENT country!
      Why the hell are we, by and large, the West? Yes, and the East.
      Просто вместо подъема своей экономики, мы вкладывали Резервный Фонд в разные забугорные бумажки, которые как сейчас Украина, в один момент захотят обнулить все наши "партнеры".
      We talked with the Olympics, as now with the World Cup.
      Where is heavy engineering? Where is the industry? Where is education, healthcare? Where is the agriculture?
      GDP announces import substitution, and officials and bankers are already rubbing their hands in anticipation of wild loans, kickbacks, etc.

      Why is this all?
      Yes, so far we have won tactically, but ...!
      No matter how it looked like a throw of our landings in Pristina, they rushed, and surrendered at the top, in the end we are out!
      1. anip
        anip 10 October 2015 11: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Skif83
        I repeat, RUSSIA THE BIGGEST AND RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

        And for some reason the people are not the richest in the world. How so? The country is the richest, and the people are poor.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 10 October 2015 13: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: anip
          Quote: Skif83
          I repeat, RUSSIA THE BIGGEST AND RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

          And for some reason the people are not the richest in the world. How so? The country is the richest, and the people are poor.


          because... request самый разумный ответ какой может быть... у нас Газпром национальное достояние...да и все остальное тоже. уже говорил о том, что и во времена Горбачева и сейчас у нас все для наружного употребления, а для вовнутрь полный провал. Народу с каждым днем все тяжелее, если бы в экономику такого человека как Шойгу, чтоб реально поддержать свою промышленность, не военную - там все хоть как-то налаживается. Пока у народа подъем патриотический после Крыма и Сирии можно многое сделать, но что будет через пару лет? Неужели как в "перестройку" упустим возможности??
        2. dvina71
          dvina71 11 October 2015 00: 14 New
          -2
          Quote: anip
          And for some reason the people are not the richest in the world. How so? The country is the richest, and the people are poor.

          You estimate the cost of housing, which the majority of the population owns. And then find out what level of wealth it means in the West.
  3. venaya
    venaya 10 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +6
    Yes, I think that, by and large, cruise missiles may not have been the best way to deliver the required amount of explosives to the target. They definitely had an alternative.

    The task was different, the point was to show: we will get everyone, calm down ...
    1. CARLSON
      CARLSON 10 October 2015 07: 10 New
      +5
      Задачу ещё в "Джентельменах удачи" мы сформулировали
  4. shimus
    shimus 10 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +2
    Ohhh, another one has seen !!!!
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 10 October 2015 07: 14 New
      10
      The more of these surprises we have, the more we see more in the West
      1. 2С5
        2С5 12 October 2015 04: 34 New
        0
        ... expensive treatment is obtained
  5. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 10 October 2015 06: 51 New
    +9
    This is a political and diplomatic tool to declare that Russia is a power that can carry out strategic tasks over long distances, and not just near its borders, that it is a power that can influence regional conflicts beyond what they call their "near abroad".

    And what did you think gentlemen of the Democrats that Russia will constantly listen to your crazy ideas with your mouth open, have heard enough, almost in ..... they turned out to be, and your time is over, but who’s temporary here, slack.
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 10 October 2015 06: 58 New
    +5
    Showed their capabilities in practice. IN PRACTICE! Now we have such a long spear, that if necessary, we get to the glands repeat lol
    1. RU-Officer
      RU-Officer 10 October 2015 07: 19 New
      +4
      Now we have such a long spear, that if necessary, we get to the glands

      We already had a spear - the combined forces of the nuclear triad soldier , but the fact that there are also excellent darts is a useful reminder to the neighbors who have overgrown hi . Cut, as they say - bite! wink
  7. Oman 47
    Oman 47 10 October 2015 06: 59 New
    +3
    "Партнеры" задумчиво молчат, получив "каспийскую экспресс-почту"...
    Bricks are formed. Already gone howl:
    -Give money for weapons against the evil Russians! belay
  8. Denis DV
    Denis DV 10 October 2015 07: 08 New
    +2
    Yes, it was clear that this test and demonstration of a long arm angry capable of delivering strong and knockout blows drinks
  9. Horst78
    Horst78 10 October 2015 07: 13 New
    +1
    I think this is actually a demonstration of ability. The real goal (here I’m not talking about the physical goal in the person of the “Islamic State) - it is the West and its allies to whom Moscow wants to send a clear message.
    I really hope that they have this message correctly will accept.
  10. meriem1
    meriem1 10 October 2015 07: 15 New
    +2
    "Светочи" мира и всех окрестностей нервно курят. Опять ушат лжи в Нашу сторону. Ну-ну. Улыбает! Такая реакция явно показывает не умение держать удар.... и отсутствие внятной стратегии. Всё это говорит о том, что в очередной раз " неожиданно в начале зимы выпал снег". ВЫВОД: НЕ рой другому яму! Не буди лихо, пока оно тихо!
    Good girl V.V. Putin !!! A good gift for D.R. yourself and all of us !!!
  11. nagel_Oz
    nagel_Oz 10 October 2015 07: 25 New
    +4
    С ракетами и последствиями понятно. Меня больше всего улыбнуло, как это все было сделано. Тихое торжество ДР Путина, и массированный удар стратегическими ракетами, откуда не ждали. Такая оплеуха с "барского" стола партнерам... К сожаленью день рожденья только раз в году
  12. slizhov
    slizhov 10 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +2
    It is good to feel like a citizen of a country that is able to defend not only its interests in the world, but also the interests of all the countries friendly to it ... :)
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 10 October 2015 07: 31 New
    10
    I agree with the author. Putin is tired of living according to concepts. American concepts. He was tired of being constantly invited to a democratic thieves ’gangway (G8 or G29) and presented with something. It is worth showing the teeth as mongrels begin to bustle, and thieves in law fuss.
  14. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 07: 45 New
    +2

    Ideally, we have the right to hope that Russia warned not only the allies and states over which these cruise missiles flew, that is, Iran, Iraq and so on, but also the coalition armed forces. I don’t know if that was so. It would be interesting to know about this.

    Ну да конечно.Союзники. Только не пойму в каком месте. Когда богоизбранные долбят кого хотят и где хотят, что то не очень разрешения у кого то спрашивали. Или предупреждают. Тут недавно в Афгане врачей без границ "предупредили", но поздно.
  15. PValery53
    PValery53 10 October 2015 08: 04 New
    +3
    ДР ВВП, или, иначе, полёты наших КР дали "возможность" Западу примерить на себе судьбу тех, на чью голову прилетают такие сюрпризы. И это их озаботило. Война на чужой территории "вышла из моды", теперь, кто начинает(против нас) войну, получает её сразу на своей территории.
  16. valokordin
    valokordin 10 October 2015 08: 14 New
    +3
    Ours did everything right, I think, the errors in hovering a cruise missile are enough not to miss the spot on the ministries of punitive in the capital of Little Russia.
  17. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 10 October 2015 08: 16 New
    +4
    That is, it is more a message to rivals and opponents of Russia than the real need to use such weapons to solve combat missions in Syria?
    I think this is actually a demonstration of ability. The real goal (here I’m not talking about the physical goal represented by the “Islamic State”) is the West and its allies, which Moscow wants to send a clear message.

    I think, I think ... Faster, however, you need to think!
    I personally understood this the day after the strike:

    Boa KAA RU October 7, 2015 20:47 | Missile ships of the Caspian flotilla hit cruise missiles at ISIS positions in Syria.
    Quote: st25310
    launches of cruise missiles of the Caspian flotilla on targets in Syria! Did the Turks understand the hint?


    It was *open letter* янкесам, чтобы они все поняли и уверовали в...свою "исключительность"!
    (Report by the Chairman of the NSH NS Committee to the President of the States:
    - Sir! Today, the Russians ruled out our exclusivity!)
  18. igordok
    igordok 10 October 2015 08: 23 New
    18
    We should not forget that live firing is much more useful in terms of training than in exercises.
  19. akudr48
    akudr48 10 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +6
    The Caspian argument is like a crowbar against which there is no reception.

    Applied timely and convincingly.

    A small boat (about 1 thousand tons of displacement) from a remote water area is capable of doing big things, including with large cruisers and aircraft carriers in many tens of thousands of tons.

    Надо надеяться, что Запад и другие намек этот поняли как аргумент реальной, а не "мягкой" силы, к чему только они и прислушиваются.

    In this situation, we need more missiles and boats, but less euphoria.
    1. BMW
      BMW 10 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: akudr48
      In this situation, we need more missiles and boats, but less euphoria.

      Gold words.
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 09: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: bmw
        Quote: akudr48
        In this situation, we need more missiles and boats, but less euphoria.

        Gold words.

        To these words, and even more Pobol.
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 10 October 2015 10: 07 New
          +2
          Well, yes, yes ... Where do we get our finances? Now, if you had oil, well, or gas there ... Or what other minerals ... What - is there ?! True?! And why then with finances is eternal straining?
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 18: 05 New
            +1
            The eternal misfortune of Russia- theft.
  20. andron72
    andron72 10 October 2015 09: 06 New
    +1
    yes we igil soak yes they deer do not understand fool
  21. Nymp
    Nymp 10 October 2015 09: 10 New
    +2
    This expert fell from an oak tree! Do we have previously had these missiles? But regular, training launches from submarines and ships, in his opinion, are not rockets? His phrase that Russia has demonstrated a reduction in the distance in technological backwardness from the West was pronounced specifically to humiliate Russia! !
  22. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 10 October 2015 09: 11 New
    +2
    ... Russia is a power that can carry out strategic tasks over long distances, and not just near its borders,
    Если это не убедительно, то следующий этап стратегические бомбардировщики и если это ещё не убедит, то РВСН. Все "тойоты в хлам". И где будут "ваши тачанки"? Песочница закончилась. РОССИЯ - это Держава!
  23. Vladimir.
    Vladimir. 10 October 2015 09: 20 New
    -5
    ""Сигнал Западу"— эксперт об участии Каспийской флотилии в Сирийской войне."
    Drive your Experts to the 5th point!
    Какой еще "сигнал"?Наши корабли первый раз за более,чем 10-15 лет провели ракетную атаку не по "воображаемым корабликам".Штаты имеют огромный опыт применения подобного вооружения и отработанную тактику действий.И опыт у них приличный.
    Что бы из такого "события" раздуть аж "Сигнал Западу" надо быть полным дегене...Человеком,который сказал эволюции:"Назад!"

    I understand that the articles on the website are designed for patriots and with reality 98% of the articles have only an indirect relationship, but roll up balls for videos so much ...

    "Если это не убедительно, то следующий этап стратегические бомбардировщики и если это ещё не убедит, то РВСН. Все "тойоты в хлам". И где будут "ваши тачанки"? Песочница закончилась. РОССИЯ - это Держава!"

    Открыть вам секрет,что понятие "Держава" предполагает нормальный уровень жизни и стабильную экономику.А у нас всё из 5-й точки.Правительство только деньги гребет.Тем более,что Путин никого убеждать не будет.Его самого очень быстро убедят.Да так,что у нас буханка хлеба стить будет 1 000 000 руб.И тогда уже никакие самолеты не полетят.Не на что их содержать будет.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 10 October 2015 10: 14 New
      +7
      Are we buying bread abroad? Or do we bake it ourselves? With what ... fright should it cost 1? Putin is not a bunny with ears and we have a mess more than we would like, but tomorrow we can close all borders, refuse the dollar and the euro and live on our own, in rubles and yuan. And on the street no one will die of hunger. Dependence on the West, it is a dependence on comfort, and not a question of survival.
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 10 October 2015 10: 36 New
    -3
    Starting perfume gauges is a waste of money. And the opportunity to experience them is worth a lot. The launch of such missiles is economically justified only against developed countries, which have something to lose and in a war with which it is desirable to minimize civilian casualties. And so the price for an ax is about $ 1 million, for a hummingbird a little cheaper.
  25. hartlend
    hartlend 10 October 2015 11: 15 New
    0
    Quote: PlotnikoffDD
    What other expert did not speak out about this?)

    Why then put the pros and raise the rating?
  26. morozik
    morozik 10 October 2015 11: 24 New
    +4
    West signal received
    US Command is withdrawing the USS Theodore Roosevelt from the Persian Gulf today.
    An aircraft carrier formation with more than five thousand personnel and 65 fighters is leaving the Persian Gulf tonight.
    The weakening of the US military presence in the Persian Gulf is taking place against the backdrop of a buildup of Russian military operations in Syria.
    With the departure of Theodore Roosevelt in the Persian Gulf, for the first time since 2007, not a single American aircraft carrier will remain on alert duty.
    After Russian warships rained their cruise missiles at militants in Syria, military officials said they were withdrawing an aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf. The vessel will officially leave the bay, at around 11 pm Eastern time.

    "Россия остается джокером в регионе" - заметил Питер Дэли, отставной вице-адмирал флота и генеральный директор американского военно-морского Института.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-bombs-syria-..
    1. 2С5
      2С5 12 October 2015 04: 45 New
      0
      "Россия остается джокером в регионе" - заметил Питер Дэли, отставной вице-адмирал флота и генеральный директор американского военно-морского Института.


      ... EXA they are repeat
  27. anip
    anip 10 October 2015 11: 58 New
    +3
    I think this is actually a demonstration of ability. The real goal (here I’m not talking about the physical goal in the face of the “Islamic State) is the West and its allies, to whom Moscow wants to send a clear message.

    That's right. ISIS ISIS, but along the way to hold a demonstration - it will not hurt.
  28. Evgtan
    Evgtan 10 October 2015 12: 22 New
    +3
    Obama declared ISIS the # 1 global threat. And Russian as a threat number 2. And then the Russians were upset. It hurts, they don’t like being second. They sat down, drank vodka, consulted with the bears, and decided to smuggle the whole ISIS to their mother. So that no one can doubt. Russians are the first in everything
  29. Stas Karpov
    Stas Karpov 10 October 2015 12: 25 New
    -4
    They write that 4 missiles fell into Iran.
  30. K-36
    K-36 10 October 2015 13: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: Stas Karpov
    They writethat 4 missiles fell into Iran.

    It is for people like you, people without a solid foundation, who write. yes
    И именно в расчёте на то, что "пипл схавает". Что и подтверждает выложенный Вами пост. lol
  31. velf
    velf 10 October 2015 13: 56 New
    0
    Чтобы выдать такое не надо называться экспертом. Любой обыватель не хуже скажет.И так все понятно. И слону понятно что Запад в "легком" шоке. А что же остается, если по другому не понимают.
  32. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 10 October 2015 14: 45 New
    0
    Corentan Brewstolen: What we see now in Syria is a desire to demonstrate
    How do you, fucking Westerners, love to distort reality! .. This is NOT DESIRE, this is the most that DEMONSTRATION! And judging by your western bleating, the demonstration is brilliant!
  33. Stas Karpov
    Stas Karpov 10 October 2015 17: 42 New
    -2
    Quote: K-36
    Quote: Stas Karpov
    They writethat 4 missiles fell into Iran.

    It is for people like you, people without a solid foundation, who write. yes
    И именно в расчёте на то, что "пипл схавает". Что и подтверждает выложенный Вами пост. lol

    А вы верите, что "оборонка", которую разрушали лет 30, вдруг воскресла? Я - нет. Вижу вокруг оборонные предприятия, они также "ниачём", влачат унылое существование, работая с той же рухлядью, которая осталась от Союза. Надо быть совсем наивным, чтобы верить оффпропаганде... причём через год после сердюковщины laughing
  34. Old26
    Old26 10 October 2015 21: 58 New
    +3
    Quote: akudr48
    A small boat (about 1 thousand tons of displacement) from a remote water area is capable of doing big things, including with large cruisers and aircraft carriers in many tens of thousands of tons.

    Не способен этот маленький кораблик с удаленной аудитории наделать больших дел с крейсерами и авианосцами. Вся ошибка в том, что пишущие забывают, что "КАЛИБР" - это семейство ракет. Ракета "Корабль-земля" (3М14) имеет действительно дальность в 1,5, а возможно и 2,5 тысячи километров.

    But the anti-ship - only about 400 km (the commander of the Caspian flotilla called the number 375 km (I met the numbers 440-600 km, although there is no confirmation). So, even from 600 km he will not reach the Persian Gulf. 375-400 he and Black time does not completely block ...

    By the way, I personally think that in vain they combined the OCD. More precisely, they gave one name to everyone in vain. At least earlier anti-ship (3M54, 3M54-1) were called "Бирюза", а 3М14 - "корабль-земля" - под названием "Калибр". А сейчас очень много путаницы вносит "в умы"
  35. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 10 October 2015 22: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    In fact, both. And we fight against evil spirits, and we demonstrate the possibilities. and not so much to the West (although to them, too), but to the USA

    And also breaks the myth of Russia as a country capable of only trading in hydrocarbons! wink
  36. Yurmix
    Yurmix 11 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Polar
    Такой пустомельный патриотизм гораздо вреднее целого батальона диверсантов. И наших "точек превосходства" пока наблюдается единицы,

    And what happens idle patriotism, how is it? is he a patriot and a patriot of his homeland, if I have only Kalash then I am no longer a patriot? I personally am proud and rejoice when a good weapon appears, even in small quantities (for now), because every nonsense begins to think about climbing in a snap. And the fact that it is still too early for some ANALYTICS from the white-collar writers to enter the world stage with such policies and weapons, and these are more harmful than a whole battalion of saboteurs.
  37. Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 11 October 2015 09: 56 New
    +1
    And where do they get such experts? The USSR produced rockets of this class but did not use them openly. Another trio and puffer. But in general, thanks for the information