The Syrian military are experiencing the need for ACS "Acacia", "Msta-S" and "Hyacinth"

At the beginning of the civil war, the Syrian military had an impressive arsenal of artillery pieces, mostly outdated, such as D-30 howitzers and M-46 cannons, as well as rather exotic systems, like C-23 cannons, capable of hitting targets at a distance more than 30 km writes "Messenger of Mordovia".


The Syrian military are experiencing the need for ACS "Acacia", "Msta-S" and "Hyacinth"


“If we talk about modern means of reconnaissance, automated field artillery fire control systems, in this direction the Syrians lag behind the armies of Israel and Turkey was catastrophic. The fact is that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Syrian artillery units stopped receiving new equipment from Russia, while Western countries were in no hurry to sell the modern Baathist regime weapon. In addition, the general training of artillerymen, both officers and soldiers, was relatively low, ”the material says.

Therefore, at the beginning of the war, Syrian artillery showed itself rather mediocre: the low level of training and the lack of modern reconnaissance units led to firing at the squares, often with zero result.

Over time, the professionalism of Syrian artillerymen grew, but another problem appeared - the lack of serviceable equipment. The shortage of spare parts, the wear of guns greatly thinned the arsenals of the Syrian military, therefore, according to military experts, at the moment they will need self-propelled artillery for effective offensive operations. For the first time, there will be enough serviceable self-propelled guns of the 2C3 type, which are already well known to Syrian artillerymen.

After overcoming the artillery of the crisis "would be nice to have been to provide the Syrians upgraded 2S3M2 with automated control systems, guidance and fire, long-range ACS 2S5" Hyacinth ", and 2S19" MSTA-S "and systems of automated fire control units of self-propelled artillery and corrected munitions, the newspaper notes.

All this will necessarily increase the combat capability of the Syrian military and contribute to the defeat of the gangs.
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  1. Mikhail m 9 October 2015 05: 29 New
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    At whose expense is the banquet? Our army also needs a lot.
    1. vyinemeynen 9 October 2015 05: 58 New
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      don’t worry pay! You are our market!
      The meaning of the article? Are all the statements obvious and worth writing?
      1. Alexander Romanov 9 October 2015 06: 02 New
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        Quote: vyinemeynen
        The meaning of the article?

        It is not strange, but the author himself unwittingly led to the fact that Assad himself was to blame for everything.
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        Are all the statements obvious and worth writing?

        No, not obvious.
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        You are our market!

        And who are you?
        1. vyinemeynen 9 October 2015 06: 41 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          It is not strange, but the author himself unwittingly led to the fact that Assad himself was to blame for everything.

          I agree with that.
          What is not the evidence that in 4 years of war the equipment has been beaten, worn out, does it end?
          and what does all this need?
          At whose expense is the banquet? The question is not the first plan! This is a collective farm market issue.
          The first question is WHY we will do this, hence the understanding of the price we are willing to pay.
          I am wrong?
          1. NEXUS 9 October 2015 09: 09 New
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            Quote: vyinemeynen
            The first question is WHY we will do this, hence the understanding of the price we are willing to pay.
            I am wrong?

            I don’t think that all that we supply to Syria is an act of gratuitous soul rush. To begin with, Assad will probably pay quotas for the development of new oil wells, trouble-free passage and basing of our ships at new bases, which will definitely be deployed. and the provision of airfields for our strategists and their support. And in the future, the priority of Russian companies in the construction and restoration of Syrian infrastructure. Plus, we get a good ally and outpost in the Middle East.
            1. vyinemeynen 9 October 2015 16: 05 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              I don’t think that all that we supply to Syria is an act of gratuitous soul rush. To begin with, Assad will probably pay quotas for the development of new oil wells, trouble-free passage and basing of our ships at new bases, which will definitely be deployed. and the provision of airfields for our strategists and their support. And in the future, the priority of Russian companies in the construction and restoration of Syrian infrastructure. Plus, we get a good ally and outpost in the Middle East.

              All this is completely included in my question WHY. + many political issues. But all this is tomorrow (if we win), and today our on the line of fire and financial costs today too (this is the issue of PRICE)
            2. alone 9 October 2015 17: 26 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              I do not think that all that we supply to Syria is an act of gratuitous impulse of the soul.

              Syria was not able to pay the Soviet debt. It was also taken for the purchase of Soviet military equipment. It had to be written off. What do you think, if you couldn’t pay then, now they will pay? The country is in ruins, the economy is missing. What kind of payments can we talk about?
              1. APASUS 9 October 2015 20: 06 New
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                Quote: lonely
                Syria was not able to pay the Soviet debt. It was also taken for the purchase of Soviet military equipment. It had to be written off. What do you think, if you couldn’t pay then, now they will pay? The country is in ruins, the economy is missing. What kind of payments can we talk about?

                You can certainly not deliver to Syria and wait for money, somewhere closer to the Caucasus, of course, and don’t need to transfer it to anyone, but this will be another war in our territory
                1. alone 9 October 2015 20: 17 New
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                  Quote: APASUS
                  You can certainly not deliver to Syria and wait for money, somewhere closer to the Caucasus, of course, and don’t need to transfer it to anyone, but this will be another war in our territory

                  Greetings. I’m not saying what not to deliver. It’s not up to us to say))) But it’s silly to wait for money from these deliveries. Syria pays nothing. This is a fact. For at least 2 years, Assad has been fighting at the expense of Iranian loans.
                  1. APASUS 9 October 2015 21: 51 New
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                    Quote: lonely
                    Greetings. I’m not saying what not to deliver. It’s not up to us to say))) But it’s silly to wait for money from these deliveries. Syria pays nothing. This is a fact. For at least 2 years, Assad has been fighting at the expense of Iranian loans.

                    Good evening.
                    There are direct costs, but there are strategic ones. So in the strategic plan, after Assad’s defeat, then the direct ones can be many times larger.
        2. alone 9 October 2015 17: 23 New
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          Therefore, at the beginning of the war, Syrian artillery showed itself rather mediocre: the low level of training and the lack of modern reconnaissance units led to firing at the squares, often with zero result.


          The West is probably to blame too. What did the command of the Syrian army do? Let’s keep it clean. The army of the country, which is still at war (a peace treaty with Israel has not yet been signed), especially its artillery formations were prepared below the average level. Yes and infantry formations were not up to par. Remember how tanks attacked militants in the city without infantry support? That’s why armored formations, the best CAA formations, suffered huge losses.
          Hence the conclusion: the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of Syria were not in their place. And who appointed them? Obama chtoli? No. Bashar Assad.

          P.S. Oh, yes, comrades will come running and begin to prove that Assad is not to blame. As in the case of Tolik Stool.
      2. Kostyar 9 October 2015 06: 09 New
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        Everything for the front, everything for the victory !!!
        To the defense of Damascus !!!
    2. I love Motherland 9 October 2015 06: 07 New
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      Speaking in Syria, they found proven oil reserves of 37 billion tons, which is one billion more than the Saudis. I do not think that Putin and the Company did not take into account this factor ....
      1. Kostyar 9 October 2015 06: 12 New
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        Ours have never been pragmatists, in the first place people, people !!!
        We are Russian !!!
      2. Alexander Romanov 9 October 2015 06: 21 New
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        Quote: I love Motherland
        I do not think that Putin and the Company did not take into account this factor ....

        I’ll just put you a minus and continue to ask. Without explanation hi
      3. Shuttle 9 October 2015 10: 16 New
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        Quote: I love Motherland
        Speaking in Syria, they found proven oil reserves of 37 billion tons, which is one billion more than the Saudis. I do not think that Putin and the Company did not take into account this factor ....

        Well, even if so, then what?
        And what did you find in the Donbass? Coal or shale gas?

        Vasya’s opinion about Pete tells us more about Vasya than about Pete.
        Catch a thought?
    3. Vadim237 9 October 2015 09: 37 New
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      Deliveries of equipment to Syria, if any, will only be used.
    4. The Chat 9 October 2015 11: 18 New
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      There is also OUR army, only equipped with Syrians.
      And for his army to spare money is stupidity or, what is more correct, a rabid liberal in the worst sense.
      Then, if you don’t supply your army, you will have to feed your uncles from the USA.
  2. Vita vko 9 October 2015 05: 36 New
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    Alternatively, you can completely disarm the Ukrainian junta and equip the Syrian army on the cheap by buying cheaply through the third countries the remains of heavy dill weapons.
  3. Wolka 9 October 2015 05: 37 New
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    without panic, everything is decided and everything is decided ...
    1. Alexander Romanov 9 October 2015 05: 57 New
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      The fact is that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Syrian artillery units stopped receiving new equipment from Russia, and Western countries were in no hurry to sell modern weapons to the Baathist regime
      And what prevented buying from Russia in the 90s. For example, at KNAAPO, when the Chinese came, they were ready to put a whore on them, if only they signed a contract for the planes. If the Syrians arrived, they would be greeted with flowers.
      The author of excuses is looking for something.
      1. Vita vko 9 October 2015 10: 37 New
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        If the Syrians arrived, they would be met with flowers

        They came. At least for the air defense armament, which was considered a priority for Syria. At our Academy of East Kazakhstan in Tver, Syrian officers constantly studied, sometimes up to 10 people.
  4. aszzz888 9 October 2015 05: 42 New
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    “It would be nice to provide the Syrians with modernized 2С3М2 with automated guidance and fire control systems, long-range self-propelled guns 2С5 Giatsin, as well as 2С19 Msta S and self-propelled artillery fire control systems, correctable editions.


    Of course, it would not be bad. But also to train the Syrian soldiers in mastering such a technique.
  5. Andryukha G 9 October 2015 05: 48 New
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    In order to tear apart the US plans for destabilization in the Middle East countries, and then (by the same militants) on the southern borders of Russia and the Caucasus, it is necessary to help.
  6. ssn18 9 October 2015 05: 51 New
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    Can conduct an audit of our arsenals and storage bases for the samples taken out of service?
    Surely there is something to help.
    1. Meh-forester 9 October 2015 10: 48 New
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      Quote: ssn18
      Can conduct an audit of our arsenals and storage bases for the samples taken out of service?
      Surely there is something to help

      Well, from "self-propelled guns" then it’s only during WWII, and this is VERY ancient. But in fact, there are plenty of "Acacias" at the storage bases, so that, after modernization, they would be delivered to Syria. The question now is more that it is necessary to install modern fire control systems on these self-propelled guns, which would be very accurate, and most importantly, quickly cover the identified targets.
      1. ssn18 9 October 2015 12: 32 New
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        "on the storage bases abound" Acacia ",

        But isn't that good.

        "it is necessary to put modern fire control systems on these self-propelled guns"

        The Syrian army right now lacks artifacts, anyone. T.ch. I think they will be a holiday.
  7. silver169 9 October 2015 05: 54 New
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    Do you want or not, but now Russia needs to help Syria by all means and means. So what to do? The international situation is developing in such a way that defeat on this front is not permissible.
  8. svp67 9 October 2015 06: 00 New
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    The Syrian military are experiencing the need for ACS "Acacia", "Msta-S" and "Hyacinth"
    So I understand that the next in the lists will be "Peonies", "Tulips". It is very strange that there are no requests for "VIENNA"
    1. Alexander Romanov 9 October 2015 06: 21 New
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      Quote: svp67
      I understand that the next in the lists will be "

      ....... Poplars!
      1. svp67 9 October 2015 06: 24 New
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        hi
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        ....... Poplars!

        ... Well then, the Iskanders
        1. Alexander Romanov 9 October 2015 06: 34 New
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          Quote: svp67
          ... Well then, the Iskanders

          No, Poplars .... with what to send directly to Washington under their own power.
  9. Nik_One 9 October 2015 06: 01 New
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    To fight the wild Papuans, the Syrian comrades would have enough Acacias, of which there are plenty of them in storage and they can be helped. And Msta-S, I'm sorry, we need our own army.
  10. lopvlad 9 October 2015 06: 22 New
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    We have how many T-55 tanks in storage + the ammunition for them is fucked up and at a price for the Syrians just right.
    Modern weapons weakened Syria now and in the coming years will not pull.
  11. tracker 9 October 2015 06: 38 New
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    the issue of artillery supplies has matured, the article really showed it, there are a lot of ammunition, even in the past years they were disposed of, which greatly irritated the population. In the years 14-16, the problem with disposal was resolved
  12. K-50 9 October 2015 07: 13 New
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    After overcoming the artillery crisis, “it would be nice to provide the Syrians with upgraded 2S3M2 with automated guidance and fire control systems, long-range self-propelled guns 2S5 Giatsin, as well as 2S19 Msta S and automated fire control systems for self-propelled artillery units and adjusted ammunition

    You can give "Peonies". Their 203 mm ammunition will be especially good when destroying strong fortifications, well, and more panic will create fellow laughing
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    ivan3211 9 October 2015 07: 25 New
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    Quote: Bone
    Ours have never been pragmatists, in the first place people, people !!!
    Only whose people is it ???
  14. 1goose3 9 October 2015 09: 16 New
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    Quote: Bone
    Ours have never been pragmatists, in the first place people, people !!!
    We are Russian !!!

    I put you a plus. But the economic component of this issue is absolutely harmful to exclude. It is like a young beautiful wife. You fell in love with her, put on a shod, bought her a house, a car, and after receiving all this, she looked around and went to another. In order that this would not happen, a marriage contract is concluded which describes in which case the wife remains the owner of all of the above, and in which she leaves.
    I think Russia and Syria have such a "marriage" contract. And this is not offensive to both parties, agree. hi
  15. Old26 9 October 2015 12: 10 New
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    Quote: NEXUS
    I don’t think that all that we supply to Syria is an act of gratuitous soul rush. To begin with, Assad will probably pay quotas for the development of new oil wells, trouble-free passage and basing of our ships at new bases, which will definitely be deployed. and the provision of airfields for our strategists and their support. And in the future, the priority of Russian companies in the construction and restoration of Syrian infrastructure. Plus, we get a good ally and outpost in the Middle East.

    The Syrian army, of course, needs to be re-equipped. But somehow everything sounds in your future tense: will pay, provide a base to be deployed ...
    This is certainly desirable, but alas, does not mean at all that everything will be so. Now he pays for weapons, but about bases ... His father, despite all friendly relations with the USSR, despite the fact that we supplied him with new weapons, including the then-unsurpassed in range S-200 reacted to just one of our statements very peculiar. It is about the introduction of Syrian units in Lebanon. The USSR expressed its bewilderment, misunderstanding of this decision ... And what is the result?

    For several years we were not allowed to use the PMTO in Tartus, and the project for the construction of our base, which could accommodate up to 20 warships, including aircraft carriers, had three air regiments with an airfield at the EMNIP, including a bomber regiment - the project was multiplied by zero. And this despite all the help that was provided to Syria.

    The only hope is that the son will not follow in the footsteps of his father and will not be so touchy at the statements of our leadership. After all, when they feel bad - they are all ready to kiss our heels, promise everything and everyone, eternal friendship. When the situation stabilizes, everything is forgotten. So it is now. God forbid that we really raped real bases there ....


    Quote: svp67
    So I understand that the next in the lists will be "Peonies", "Tulips". It is very strange that there are no requests for "VIENNA"

    And HZ. Assad does not need variety. Need artillery, artillery systems with the same ballistics. And it turns out that we put several different systems, and the shells are not interchangeable ...
  16. Welcome to hell 9 October 2015 17: 08 New
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    The first question is WHY we will do this, hence the understanding of the price we are willing to pay.
    Am I wrong? [/ Quote]
    you are very deeply mistaken, Syria is very solvent, it just needs time after the war to recover, and this is at least 3-5 years, if you take into account why this civil war started, then as usual the Yankees climbed for oil. In 2010, in the territorial waters of Syria, oil deposits were found at a depth of 250 meters, and this production is cheaper even than Saudi Arabia (SA). In CA, the volume of explored volumes is 13 trillion barrels, while in Syria this field alone is several times higher than all explored reserves of CA. After the Civil War, it is precisely our companies that will be engaged in oil production, and this is an additional profit to the budget, in addition to the fact that they will pay us interest on the loan from the arms sold to them.