“If Moscow wants to defeat ISIS in the north of Syria, then Kurds are necessary for it”

“If Moscow wants to defeat ISIS in the north of Syria, then Kurds are necessary for it”“Of course, we have a positive attitude towards the revitalization of Russia in the fight against the IG. On the other hand, Moscow supports the Syrian regime, which we oppose. But we will support any country fighting against the “Islamic State,” said the leader of Syrian Kurdistan Saleh Muslim, whose troops are currently fighting against ISIS in northern Syria, in an interview with the VIEW newspaper.


Currently, there are many separate groups fighting in Syria that have different goals and objectives. One of the largest groups is the Kurds, who are fighting against the radicals from the first day of the emergence of the IG terrorist organization on the territory of Iraq and Syria.

Most Syrian Kurds are critical of the government of Bashar Assad in Damascus. However, the threat from radical terrorist organizations, primarily the so-called Islamic state, is more relevant for the Kurds. IG militants sell Kurdish women and children to sexual slavery and carry out ethnic cleansing of towns and villages inhabited by Kurds. Among the Kurds there are Sunni Muslims (constitute the majority), Shiite Muslims, Yezidis and Christians.

The leader of Syrian Kurdistan, the chairman of the largest pro-Kurdish opposition party “Democratic Union” Saleh Muslim explained to the newspaper VIEW the position of the Syrian Kurds at the start of the antiterrorist operation of the Russian Armed Forces. Among the representatives of the forces of moderate opposition, Saleh Muslim is the most influential figure. The armed forces under his command number around 40 – 50 thousands of people and fight with the IG terrorists in the north and north-east of Syria.

VIEW: Mr. Muslim, on September 30, the Russian Armed Forces launched an air force operation against the IS and other terrorist groups. How in Syrian Kurdistan rate this step?

Saleh Muslim: Russia from the very beginning of the Syrian conflict was involved in supporting the government of Bashar Assad. Moscow supports the Syrian people in the war against the terrorists of the Islamic State and its sisters. Now this support has expanded, for us it is not news.



Of course, we have a positive attitude towards the revitalization of Russia in the struggle against the IS. On the other hand, Moscow supports the Syrian regime, which we oppose. But we will support any country fighting against the IG.

We, as a Syrian opposition group, regard the activation of Russian policy in Syria as a struggle against terrorism. I do not know how these attacks are viewed by other opposition groups that are completely dependent on Turkey and other countries financially, ideologically and practically. We do not receive any instructions. We have a different political line. The Kurds are fighting against the IG terrorists from the very beginning of the conflict in Syria. Naturally, we will support all who fight against the IS.

On the other hand, we hope that Russia's actions against terrorists will help to begin political changes in Syria as soon as possible. The crisis in Syria needs a political solution; it cannot be mastered by military methods alone. In order to preserve Syria as a state, political reforms are needed.

VIEW: It is known that in Syria on the side of the state are fighting other military-political forces. Are Syrian Kurds coordinating with them?

SM: The Kurds do not coordinate actions with any of these forces. We are not in contact with the government of Bashar al-Assad, with Hezbollah, or with the Iranian police. We are far from them, we are not allies and not enemies, we do not have common points of contact on earth. We consider all these groups as part of the regime, and we are against the Syrian regime.

VIEW: Do you think that Bashar Assad should leave?


S. M: During a certain transitional period, during negotiations on the political transformation of Syria, it may remain. I am sure that we need some kind of government for this period in order to somehow govern the country.

Moscow needs to more clearly explain its policy to regional political forces. The United States began to bomb the IG, and we still don’t really know what they want. Many countries that take part in a coalition against terrorists led by the United States create the appearance of fighting terrorists - for example, Turkey does this.

Now Russia is bombing the IG. Let's hope that everything will be successful. We are ready to cooperate with any party that is fighting against the IS and other terrorist groups.

VIEW: On the eve of the start of the operation, the Syrian Kurds had contacts with the Russian Armed Forces?

SM: We did not have contacts with the Russians on the eve of the operation against the IS. Moscow is coordinated with the Assad government, not with us. There was an official request from Damascus, Moscow fulfills it. The fact is that all the forces that are fighting against the IS, do it in different regions of the country, on different fronts.

Government forces do it conditionally in the west of Syria, the Kurds in the north. Russia is limited to air strikes. We are fighting along the entire northern border of Syria with Turkey, in the province of Hasaka. There may be some coordination between us in the future, but as long as it is not there, it is not even necessary.

If Moscow wants to defeat the IG in the north of Syria, then the Kurds are necessary for it. For our part, we expect support and assistance in the fight against IS.

VIEW: In your opinion, is the decentralization of Syria and the granting of independence to Syrian Kurdistan necessary?

SM: We have always seen our future in the framework of a single democratic Syrian state. As Syrian Kurds, we want to be part of Syria - this is our goal and our project for the future. Southern Kurdistan or Rozhava never fought and did not fight for independence from Syria. We fought for the democratic rights of the Kurdish people. We see ourselves as a component of a democratic Syrian state together with Arabs, Turkmen and other residents of this country, if our rights are respected.

VIEW: Do the Kurds of Syria have any arrangements with Bashar Assad? For example, some media outlets cite such a scheme: are you fighting together with the IS and other terrorist organizations, after which Damascus will give the Kurds wide autonomy?

SM: Bashar Assad's regime is the Baathist regime, and we know what it is. And before the appearance of the IG, Damascus never cared about the Kurds of Syria. We do not trust them. We have good relations with Russia, Damascus too.
Moscow could be useful in the political settlement of Syria in the future. For the past two years, we have been fighting the militants of the IG, Dzhebhat an-Nusra and a number of other radical groups. In this regard, and with the situation in Syria as a whole, we have created a model of democratic self-government in the territory of Rozhava and are protecting ourselves from IS and other terrorists.

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Recall, October 1, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the Kurds are represented in the information center to coordinate the fight against the terrorist group IG in Baghdad. Moreover, Russia provides them weapons through the government of Iraq.

“We supply weapons to the Kurds through the Iraqi government. The information center established in Baghdad includes representatives from Syria, Iraq, Iran and Russia. Kurdish autonomy is also represented there, ”Lavrov said. The Russian Foreign Minister pointed out the importance of the work of this information center. “The efforts to counteract terrorism make it more effective,” he added.

The information center in Baghdad was established by Russia, Iraq, Iran and Syria on September 26. The main function of the center will be the collection, processing, compilation and analysis of current information about the situation in the Middle East region in the context of fighting the IG, its distribution according to its purpose and prompt transfer to the general headquarters of these countries.
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  1. silberwolf88 9 October 2015 15: 01 New
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    Of course, Kurds are necessary ... to anyone in the region ... those who want Peace and stability ... we must not forget about the interests of the Kurds ...
    This people has been fighting for many years for its rights ... autonomy ...
    If Bashar al-Assad negotiates with them ... he will not have a more reliable ally ... and the border in the north will be under the "castle" ...
    1. Vend 9 October 2015 15: 09 New
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      Destroy the terrorists and let them understand politically in peace negotiations. This is their common country. And the western rats get out of Syria.
      1. 53-Sciborskiy 9 October 2015 16: 57 New
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        Well, what can I tell you about ISIS?
        From Russia, trash dumped there.
        How good to cover them
        One rocket is beautiful.
        And to drop troops under Damascus ...
        Normal, like, option.
        1. Mahmut 9 October 2015 19: 07 New
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          Why ours still communicate with Kurds through Iraqi intermediaries. This omission must be eliminated. Now, in words, Assad, as it were, is not against the political modernization of Syria. And what will happen then, when the air of victory will turn Assad's head. Then the Kurds should remind of themselves. And the Turks must be kept in a light tone. And then they became too touchy.
      2. djqnbdjqnb 9 October 2015 19: 51 New
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        Quote: Wend
        Destroy the terrorists and let them understand politically in peace negotiations.

        And if then, after the destruction of the terrorists, it’s impossible to figure out the political way? And if then they try to "deal" with the Kurds in the same way as now with the IS? No, we can’t leave from there, we can make the Kurds a reliable ally with our not only military, but also political support!
    2. Vyacheslav 64 9 October 2015 15: 10 New
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      Now the Americans are trying to flirt with the Kurds, from this comes the "gnashing of teeth" from Turkey, but the Kurds are looking in our direction. Although ... they would not agree with anyone now, they will fulfill their task, their centuries-old dream - an independent Kurdistan.
      1. MIKHAN 9 October 2015 15: 20 New
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        Kurds are a serious diaspora in Russia and not only ..! They need a state, their own ...! They deserve it more than the Jews ..! laughing
        1. Aksakal_07 9 October 2015 15: 46 New
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          They deserve it more than the Jews ..!

          It would be more correct to say: "Just like the Jews."
        2. Nyrobsky 9 October 2015 18: 08 New
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          Quote: MIKHAN
          Kurds are a serious diaspora in Russia and not only ..! They need a state, their own ...! They deserve it more than the Jews ..!

          These Jews were given to you by Mikhan - they themselves will figure it out)))
          But with the Kurds it is necessary to conduct a dialogue and build some kind of strategy. So far, as far as is known, only Grandfather Hassan (there was such a thief in law, an ethnic Kurd) provided all possible assistance to the Kurds with money for weapons.
          It would be nice if it was Russia that put forward the idea of ​​the state system of Syria in the post-war period. To create some kind of “committee of national example and unity”, in which all Syrian national religions would be represented, in order to develop a future model of Syria’s structure. Then the mattresses would once again “wash”, since their participation in this process will be minimized.
          Their model has been developing for 4 years - now it is time for Russia to offer its own model, and the interests of the Kurds should be voiced in this model.
      2. Sterlya 9 October 2015 15: 35 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav 64
        Americans are trying to flirt with the Kurds now,

        I hope the Kurds know that most of all in the world one must be wary of the smiles of the Nuggets. In the end, the Kurdish issue will have to be resolved anyway, in any case. This question has been standing for centuries
      3. avt
        avt 9 October 2015 15: 41 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav 64
        Americans are trying to flirt with the Kurds now,

        Yeah. Despite the fact that it was the Syrian Kurds in the USA who were declared a terrorist organization. wassat
        Quote: Vyacheslav 64
        , from this comes the "gnashing of teeth" from Turkey,

        If rattle - really bomb! Arming the Kurds with the amers is to set fire to Turkey ... and ALL-EE! They will never forgive Erdogan and remember everything from Ajalan to the last bombing.
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        Well, Iraqi Kurds want oil, no matter how trite it sounds. And the Syrian are not going to fight for anyone but themselves.

        Borzanists with Ajalanites - ,, Javdet is a coward, Abdullah is a warrior. They do not love each other."
        1. APASUS 9 October 2015 23: 27 New
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          Quote: avt
          Yeah. Despite the fact that it was the Syrian Kurds in the USA who were declared a terrorist organization

          Whoever doesn’t walk in the enemies of the United States, but this does not prevent the Americans from supplying them with weapons
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          To arm the Kurdish amers is to set fire to Turkey.

          Already armed and created an army, in fact, the Americans want to redraw the map of the region through the Kurds. Amers do not need a strong independent Turkey
          Quote: avt
          Borzanists with Ajalanites - ,, Javdet is a coward, Abdullah is a warrior. They do not love each other."

          Yes, the Kurds are warriors, and the Turks are traders. Here Assad needs to solve the global problem in order to save the state
    3. Das Boot 9 October 2015 15: 32 New
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      Quote: silberwolf88
      ... he will not have a more reliable ally ...

      yes do not tell. Is Kurds a reliable ally? By the way, A.B. Seyda, the former chairman of the SNA and the consistent hater, Assad is a Kurd by nationality.
      Quote: silberwolf88
      those who want peace and stability

      the Kurds certainly don’t really want him.
      Quote: silberwolf88
      we must not forget about the interests of the Kurds ...
      This people has been fighting for many years for its rights ... autonomy ...

      Well, Iraqi Kurds want oil, no matter how trite it sounds. And the Syrian are not going to fight for anyone but themselves. They will get autonomy in any situation - Assad will hold on - will be forced to go for democratic reforms. Assad will not hold out - the country will still be torn apart and the Kurds will get their piece. Do not idealize them.
      1. kotvov 9 October 2015 19: 11 New
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        the country is still torn apart and the Kurds will get their piece. ,,
        they will get genocide.
        1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 20: 19 New
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          they will get genocide.

          sorry, in the 91st Saddam leaked them north. They came, they killed some industry, sat on an oil lens, all the rules. What genocide? The same garbage will be with the Syrian Kurds (as they believe) - war, a mess, third-party intervention (in the case of Iraqi Kurds, these were the States, which the Kurds still lick their ass) and - lo and behold! - autonomy.
          What genocide? Who will genocide them?
    4. Signaller 10 October 2015 00: 11 New
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      And get the war with Turkey ??????? We need this ???????. The East is a delicate matter, and Kurds, because of their desire for autonomy, they climb into all holes .. It seems to me that everything is much more complicated here. And all these autonomy and assistance to the "liberated peoples" - we passed back in the USSR, in the 60s and after. Until now, belching in Africa has not ended. Personal opinion, I do not insist.
  2. venaya 9 October 2015 15: 04 New
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    Kurds are the most militant people in that region. Relying on them is simply necessary. Those who know the Kurds know this.
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      740 9 October 2015 15: 19 New
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      Quote: venaya
      Kurds are the most militant people in that region

      It is precisely that in that region they are wars, and those who in Russia have entrenched themselves somehow more and more prefer to rummage and are not in a hurry to go to help their fellow tribesmen.
      1. unsinkable 9 October 2015 19: 36 New
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        to prefer

        Rumble everything and everywhere, and in any military and political circumstances, regardless of nationality. But in fact it turns out that both opinions are correct: some Kurds in Russia are hucksters, and in Syria, warriors.
  3. WAN
    WAN 9 October 2015 15: 05 New
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    And in the meantime:

    "ISIS appealed to NATO to return the American bombing ..." belay
    1. Sterlya 9 October 2015 15: 41 New
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      And how stink of shit laughing , successful bombing of Russia for them is like a knife up their throats, a feeling. And speak out worse than the last drunken hedgehog
  4. bronik 9 October 2015 15: 09 New
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    From here grow the legs of conflict with Erdogan.
    anecdote almost on the topic: Abydno to the Turks kaneshno. They didn’t live, they were friends with ISIS, they bombed the Kurds, and speculated in oil. And then suddenly here you are: the rooks have arrived ...
  5. Deniska999 9 October 2015 15: 10 New
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    We are late with help. It was necessary a year ago to supply Syria with normal tanks, train crews, pump SAA with artillery, and train artillerymen.
    1. Aksakal_07 9 October 2015 15: 49 New
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      Deniska999 (2)
      We are late with help. It was necessary a year ago

      A year ago, New Russia was already blazing. Not to Syria.
  6. GUKTU 9 October 2015 15: 14 New
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    After reading this article, I got the impression that the East is really a delicate matter. Many peoples inhabit this territory, each nation sees in its own way democracy on this earth, each nation wants its own dependence and rights. Will there ever be peace on this earth? Americans are good at playing a national card in this region. Every nation (nationality) has claims to its neighbors. And this is not counting the commercial interests of the larger countries of this region (for example, a gas pipeline).
  7. Engineer 9 October 2015 15: 20 New
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    The Kurds are not so simple: they want their own state, and even a quick look on the map shows that they will ask for the lion's share of Syria. And do not forget that there is still part of northern Iraq Kurdish. Here it is necessary to act very carefully, so as not to get a new conflict with the Kurds after the Islamic State.
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  8. DMoroz 9 October 2015 15: 23 New
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    So ... "We are delivering weapons to the Kurds through the Iraqi government. The information center established in Baghdad includes representatives from Syria, Iraq, Iran and Russia. Kurdish autonomy is also represented there, ”said Lavrov.

    Hence the graters with Turkey on the gas issue and on the operation against ISIS
  9. kagorta 9 October 2015 15: 30 New
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    Broad autonomy must be promised and given. Or, in general, a knight's move (well, this is only to the evil of the Turks and in the worst case) independence in case of victory over ISIS. Iran certainly does not like this, because it has its own Kurds.
    1. KG_patriot_last 9 October 2015 19: 36 New
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      If you read the article, the leader of the Kurds says in plain text:

      "WE DO NOT NEED AUTONOMY AND WE DO NOT SEPARATE. We just need our interests to be taken into account. We know who the Baathists are and we consider the Assad government to be a regime and oppose it. We want to enter the new Syrian government."
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  10. bubla5 9 October 2015 15: 32 New
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    Damn 50-60 tons of Ishilov’s ears put almost a half-million grouping of forces of the Syrians, Kurds and Rakets
  11. olimpiada15 9 October 2015 15: 43 New
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    I drew attention to the moment in the interview: both Sunnis and Shiites and Christians and not only live in Kurdistan. And they are fighting together against ISIS.
    Representatives of different faiths should not have any friction, different religions are not a reason for conflict, different people can be neighbors, and no one should fight among themselves over religion.
    And the second point, the interview does not say about the Kurds creating their own state, but this is very important.
    On the example of the former republics of the USSR, small states in the global world cannot survive separately, unless engaging in prostitution, which can no longer be called independence. Hence the conclusion, it is necessary to negotiate and build a new state on conditions worthy for the existence of each people.
    1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 16: 04 New
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      Hence the conclusion, it is necessary to negotiate and build a new state

      there will be no state. The PKK abandoned this idea. Their goal is cross-border Kurdish communities based on self-government, which in the long run can unite. In other words, the Kurds do not deny that they will be a headache for the Turks, Syrians and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Persians and Iraqis. Being a problem is their modus operandi.
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      2. Kos_kalinki9 10 October 2015 06: 10 New
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        [quote = Das Boot] [quote = olimpiada15] Hence the conclusion, we must agree and build a new state [/ quote]
        there will be no state. The PKK abandoned this idea. Their goal is cross-border Kurdish communities based on self-government, which in the long run can unite. / Quote]
        There is not a word about this in the article, about the refusal to build a common state. Just the opposite. And following your logic, the Kurds need a kind of "walk the field" in the local dialect. There is no general government, and it is not necessary, the leaders gathered on a "farm" near some local town, got out and fled?
  12. sl22277 9 October 2015 15: 47 New
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    I think it will be right: To declare the Kurds a moderate opposition, subsequently give a federation, the Kurds will come out of their skins and finish this war.
    Post-war Syria must become a federal state, otherwise the war will not fade.
    1. andj61 9 October 2015 16: 05 New
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      Post-war Syria must become a federal state, otherwise the war will not fade.

      If Syria becomes a federal state, then it will disintegrate. 70-75% Sunnis (Kurds for the most part), 10% -15 Alawites, 10% Christians (now, apparently, fewer) - Shiites are “pure” besides Alawites, Druze, minor faiths are Yezidis (these are also Kurds) Ismailis, etc. In addition to Arabs and Kurds, there are other nationalities - Armenians, Turkmens, Circassians. The Druze are so different from the nearby Sunni Arabs that they also consider themselves a separate people.
      The Sunnis will immediately seize power upon creation - and there will be "happiness" for everyone! Immediately - welcome to Lebanon Syrian bottling! And there will be hostilities between separate parts of the country.
      Here, most likely, national-cultural autonomy is needed.
  13. gukoyan 9 October 2015 15: 49 New
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    Assad will agree with the Kurds in any way, they have common interests and goals, especially since Assad, that the representatives of Kurdistan are in excellent relations with us. I think Vladimir Vladimirovich has already considered this presentation.
    1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 16: 12 New
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      that Assad, that the representatives of Kurdistan are in excellent relations with us.

      "excellent relations" have rather pragmatic gas ears sticking out. All these campaigns about the "fraternal people" and "legitimately elected governments" are for the layman. To move its goals in the region, Russia needs to either help establish a controlled and sane regime, or, cynically, not let the Saudis and companies do this.
      1. Cat man null 9 October 2015 16: 19 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        All these campaigns about the "fraternal people" and "legitimately elected governments" - for the layman

        - about the "brotherly people" - definitely
        - about the "legitimately elected government" - not only for the layman. Also "for the prosecutor" ("international law" lol)
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          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Also "for the prosecutor" ("international law"

          these hook creators don't give a damn. In relation to Syria, the very concept of "institutions of power" is something rather abstract in the view from the outside.
  14. N-SKiy 9 October 2015 15: 57 New
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    Quote: DMoroz
    The Kurds are not so simple: they want their own state, and even a quick look on the map shows that they will ask for the lion's share of Syria. And do not forget that there is still part of northern Iraq Kurdish. Here it is necessary to act very carefully, so as not to get a new conflict with the Kurds after the Islamic State.


    Let us recall Salah Ad Dina, he is a Kurd with the banner of the Kurds of the IG will be erased to powder, only it is necessary to negotiate and arm. They are fighting for their freedom.
  15. 3vs
    3vs 9 October 2015 15: 58 New
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    As for me, so ours would have to gather representatives of Assad and Kurds in Moscow
    and work out a binding document on granting Kurds wide autonomy in Syria.
    The idea pushed by the Naglosaks on the creation of a mono-ethnic state "Kurdistan"
    from the territories of Syria, Iraq, Turkey will not lead to anything good, it
    more years of the war ...
    1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 16: 17 New
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      Quote: 3vs
      in Moscow to gather representatives of Assad and Kurds
      and work out a binding document on granting Kurds wide autonomy in Syria.

      why on earth? Is this a type of bribe to the Kurds in exchange for loyalty to the regime?
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        3vs 9 October 2015 18: 27 New
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        If you want, take it as a bribe.
        We, Russia, need peace in the Middle East, however, in the whole Sharik.
        Only in peaceful conditions can one begin to build something.
        Bashar is a patriot of his country, his own, and not a political prostitute.
        I think Putin can offer both sides an acceptable option.
        The main thing is to push the Saxon from this process.
        But they, like Jews and fat lovers - they are at the door, they are out the window ...
        1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 20: 06 New
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          Quote: 3vs
          We, Russia, need peace in the Middle East, however, in the whole Sharik.
          Only in peaceful conditions can one begin to build something.

          Well, why is this oil something? What, nafig, "the world on the ball"? Consider me a cynic, but I would rather believe that if the GDP expresses itself in the spirit of Sir Winnie - I promise you blood, sweat and tears ... It’s better to have such a sermyaga than the sickening "peace and prosperity for all Russians tomorrow!".
          I'm sorry, realist.
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            3vs 9 October 2015 20: 30 New
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            And what does the fir!
            It has long been said - Paradise on Earth without God is impossible,
            no one has illusions about this.

            In Syria, we have strategic interests.
            And besides, there will be peace, there will be projects for gasmen / oilmen / nuclear engineers ...
            1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 20: 41 New
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              Quote: 3vs
              In Syria, we have strategic interests.

              Of course, this is obvious.
              Quote: 3vs
              And besides, there will be peace, gas companies will have projects

              This is the whole point of the mess. To do this, you need to push competitors. Normal pragmatic approach: "Or we, or not they! "The war for the European market moved from the stage of the Brussels-Hokslak antics to the hot phase.
    2. vex
      vex 9 October 2015 19: 36 New
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      Already now, by the tonality of the Kurds' answers, it is clear that they are not particularly grateful to Russia for the fight against IS. If they give autonomy to them, they will completely forget us. You can’t give something in the east, they want land - let them fight the terrorists. The Kurds were prematurely recorded as super-fighters, but there is nothing special to see. If it were not for the support of the West, if the manual IS had not been slowed down by the owners, the Kurds would have long been brought out in Syria and Iraq. Nobody needs them there and they are not friends - neither Iraqis, nor Syrians, nor Shiites, nor Sunnis.
      If a Kurdish state is created, the West will use it against all countries of the region. Do we need Western allies, grateful to them, at our side?
      1. Das Boot 9 October 2015 20: 01 New
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        Quote: vex
        Already by the tonality of the Kurds' answers it is clear that they are not particularly grateful

        +100 per comment. One should be careful with basharophilia and kurdolyov) Nobody has excluded the PKK from the lists of territorial organizations. Kurds, with their self-obscure goals (just don’t need about sovereign Kurdistan - no such purpose!) Tomorrow they may well co-opt with the GOGOS.
        1. Disant 9 October 2015 23: 03 New
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          on the PKK only in Turkey hung a terrorist label, do not distort. And the PKK is only one part of the Kurdish forces, so if we talk about the goals of the Kurds in general, then yes, they can probably be different.
          The head of the Syrian Kurds in this article voiced the goal: "We have always seen our future in the framework of a single democratic Syrian state." - And you distort again.
  16. Vladimir 1964 9 October 2015 16: 13 New
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    The article is certainly interesting, but far from controversial. If only because Saleh Muslim, the author presented, well, absolutely "white and fluffy", which is somewhat untrue. Yes, and about the fighting ability of the Kurds, it’s too much, if only because the Kurds do not constitute a single military structure, there are religious differences, and economic and territorial ones too.
    But of course, trying to negotiate with them is a competent decision for us, the main thing (subjective opinion) is not to go too far.

    Type such an opinion. hi
  17. Mountain shooter 9 October 2015 16: 36 New
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    Kurds defend their territory. They will not fight for Assad. Therefore - measure seven times! There is such a tangle, to part all in corners - there will not be enough corners.
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    It drives me insolent ... I lived there for three years, it was normal and quite democratic with them, and the market was not bad as in any capitalist country, and the salaries of civil servants were indexed twice a year for the cost of inflation.

    The ISIS Kurds wanted to get more oil and territory for themselves at the American expense, and when they did their part by shooting at the Syrian government troops, and almost became shallow Saudi Arabia with a mountain of greens in their dreams, NATO Turkey decided to resolve the issue with these Kurds and started bomb them, and the United States was written off to ISIS as a scrap to not pay, then they already remembered both democracy and the fight against ISIS, and yet, the events made them pay for their venality ...

    T.ch. we need to stay away from them standing on the sidelines so that ISIS and Turkey, their main friends, deal with the PKK, and it will be easier for us, and the result will be more pleasant for everyone in the region ...
    1. Disant 9 October 2015 23: 09 New
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      yeah. even in the light of new events, the Americans will throw some Kurds, half-Kurds of weapons, money, and then Assad and the RF will certainly roll to the sea.
  19. NDR-791 9 October 2015 17: 10 New
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    “If Moscow wants to defeat ISIS in the north of Syria, then Kurds are necessary for it”
    In my opinion no one will argue with this. The only Kurdish state in history was created by Stalin. True, in its original way, like the EAO (Birobidzhan).
  20. kartalovkolya 9 October 2015 17: 47 New
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    Yes, in principle, do not care about all the "interests" in Syria, but the essence of the matter is that VICTORY is not needed for Moscow, but for the long-suffering people of Syria and you gentlemen are ready to refuse it in it ??? !! The only ones who declared that in Syria did not have "far-reaching" interests was Russia! We are "fighting" for Syria because it is a struggle for justice, a struggle for the TRUTH in the end, and not for the dollars of overseas "grabbers"! And what is noteworthy, in Russia, brothers who fled from terror are accepted as their own, unlike "democratic" Europe! Syria has always been and will be a brotherly country (unlike "horses") and we are always ready to help our brothers! (Which we do )
    1. Cat man null 9 October 2015 18: 04 New
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      Quote: kartalovkolya
      Yes, in principle, do not care about all the "interests" in Syria, and the essence of the matter is that VICTORY is needed not by Moscow, but by the long-suffering people of Syria and you gentlemen are ready to refuse it

      Well, why are you so killing? Well you will never be killed wink

      They answered already, here, catch:

      Quote: Das Boot
      Quote: gukoyan
      that Assad, that the representatives of Kurdistan are in excellent relations with us.
      "excellent relations" have rather pragmatic gas ears sticking out. All these campaigns about the "fraternal people" and "legitimately elected governments" are for the layman. To move its goals in the region, Russia needs to either help establish a controlled and sane regime, or, cynically, not let the Saudis and companies do this.

      Quote: kartalovkolya
      The only ones who declared that in Syria did not have "far-reaching" interests was Russia!

      And you believed .. well, what can I say .. request
      1. kartalovkolya 9 October 2015 18: 14 New
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        Aunt Sofa from Odessa brought about people like you said that "... the birth process has not yet ended ...", and what is the demand from the unborn? Idiots on Privoz and without people like you are more than enough ... In a word: "Shura they saw weights of gold!"
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  21. kartalovkolya 9 October 2015 17: 59 New
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    Ai-ai-ai, but against whom are your "troops" not participating? And I thought that the Kurds are an independent people, apparently mistaken ...
  22. mamont5 9 October 2015 18: 01 New
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    Yes, the Kurds in Syria (and in neighboring countries) are our natural allies. And, most importantly, the Kurds keep their word.
    1. Cat man null 9 October 2015 18: 08 New
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      And, most importantly, the Kurds keep their word.

      Now let's see what happens after:

      - By common efforts (Assad and the Russian Federation), weapons will be thrown to the Kurds
      - by common efforts (Assad and Kurds) they kick (God forbid!) ISIS
      - and then the time will come for bargaining between Assad and the Kurds. Armed, note. For autonomy, or whatever they want there.

      This is where it will be time to see who keeps his word and how.

      IMHO yes
  23. fif21 9 October 2015 19: 03 New
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    Is the symbol of the Middle East, "Stubborn Ass"? They have a "watershed" runs on a national basis, and religious. Representatives of different faiths can live in the world, for example, Russia, the USA, the EU .... So the main problem is the political leadership of countries and religious figures. The President model and representatives of various faiths are looming ... Yes! there is no military solution, they will destroy themselves for the amusement of their neighbors. Only negotiations and compromise, independent states will be able to agree, can not, there will be other states and other borders.
  24. Barakuda 9 October 2015 19: 12 New
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    If the Kurds were united, there would be a result. And there, who knows, who finances them, and for what. They do not sculpt Kalash from the air. Barker leaders know, but do not recognize.
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    "175 thousand dollars - the average cost of eliminating one action movie."

    They would have given out this money. It would be sense at times more)))))))
  26. polkovnik manuch 9 October 2015 21: 25 New
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    At one time, the USSR flirted with the Kurds, it was at the end of the 70s of the 20th century, but the “east was thin” and after they got into Afghanistan with international help, things gradually calmed down. Now the Kurds want independence and for them the account doesn’t matter who will support them: we or the states, but do not forget that neither Turkey, nor Iraq, nor Syria want this, in any case. And it turns out that more than 50 million people. in 3 countries they want to unite and have their own state, and it is not clear "in which direction, if they are successful with the unification, they will deploy their machine-gun carts (like Batko Makhno!), will there be a bigger fire in the region, and this will definitely be the 3rd global. So it is better to agree immediately, now and not later.
  27. traveler 9 October 2015 23: 56 New
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    I don’t know where this myth about Kurdish super-warriors came from. if this were true, then not the Turks of the Kurds 4 would have killed, but vice versa.
    now there is already a de facto independent Iraqi Kurdistan, whose patron is, no matter how strange it may seem, Turkey. in fact, Turkey offered the Kurds (first of all, their own) a choice - if you want poor, but still independence - blow to Masud Barzani (and he will see that you do not indulge and spoil relations with your neighbor), you want a quiet life - live in the Turkish Republic If you want adventures on your fifth point - blow to the anarcho-communists in the RPK or the so-called I give birth, but don’t be offended when they spoil you.
    no unification of the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds into a single ersatz state has yet been foreseen. Why Iraqi Sunni Kurds with their Naqshbandi sheikhs and oil rigs this non-communist semi-Ussian rabble? common language? it will not be enough.
    igil and Iraqi Kurdistan are fundamentally Sunni formations, note in Iraq they especially do not interfere with each other.
    Such a situation seems to be pushing the Syrian Kurds into an alliance with Assad, but friendship with the Alawites against the Sunnis is already too much, you get dirty, then you don’t get washed away.
    so that the Syrian Kurds can only act independently, with the hope that the enemies (ig and al-assad) will simply kill each other. at the same time, they are ready to receive help with money and weapons both from the states and from Russia, do not care. at the same time, you can pour into the ears what they want to hear.
    Regarding let's arm the Kurds against Turkey, this, of course, is possible. the question is why? what is the strategy? Kurds will separate from Turkey? haha, only through their corpse. Turkey, of course, is a democratic country, wants in the EU and all that. but if you really need to, they can genocide to the fullest (for reference: in 1915, about 4 million Turks accounted for 7 million dumb Armenians-Greeks-Assyrians, while at that moment there was 1 world population and the entire male Turk population was in in the trenches. and now the Turks are 60 million for 15 million Kurds). By the way, the Turkish bombardment of Syrian Kurds by the "world community" did not cause much indignation.
    as for the interests of Russia (i.e. Putin) in the Syrian conflict, it is that the conflict lasts as long as possible. neither the Saudi-Qatari nor the Persian pipe through Syria is advantageous to us. therefore, it seems to me that such a vigorous support of Assad can now turn into a spectacle like the actions of the American coalition as soon as Assad opposition parity is restored.
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      Well lay, that is, voicing thoughts for others.
  28. win
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    Yes, the Turks have something to ask Allah:
    ISIS will not fuse the oil industry with them.
    Still to break a tail to them a little, -
    And the Kurds will live in their country as people.
  29. win
    win 10 October 2015 10: 56 New
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    UN ... Need it or do not need it ?!
    Where lies, try to figure it out
    And where is the cunning.
    If needed, tell me why.
    I do not see the state of the Kurds?
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    win 10 October 2015 11: 02 New
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    Bandits of all stripes - kaput.
    Could Russia turn around:
    And the refugees will go home
    And the elections will be made,
    And they will manage without Obama.