Saddam Hussein's Revenge

Saddam Hussein's Revenge



Capable connections of personnel officers of Saddam can leave "Islamic state"

The state of terrorists - ISIL (organization banned in the Russian Federation) - has become a military opponent of Russia. This happened not only because of the start of hostilities of our army in Syria on the side of the regime of Bashar al-Assad and the presence of the Caucasus on the maps of Islamists, but also due to changes in the ranks of the militant terrorist formation. According to the Russian Planet, former officers of the Arab Socialist Renaissance Party (BAAS) are actively on the side of the jihadists, which contributes to the aggressive phase of the war for the expansion of territories.

As a source close to the Islamic State explained to the Russian Planet, it is already known that Izzat Ibrahim ad-Duri, ex-deputy of Saddam Hussein and the secretary of the Ba'ath secretary, Izzat Ibrahim ad-Duri, ex-deputy head, entered the IG leadership. Thus, we can conclude that ISIS reassigns itself even to conservative groups of the Arab world, which were initially negatively disposed towards it. And here the question arises of the impact on the commanders of Hussein, who are combat commanders in the "Iblis state."

According to political analyst Sergei Aksenov, the brilliant actions of our aviation in Syria, as well as the carefully calibrated work of the Russian Foreign Ministry is beginning to bear fruit. Hundreds, if not thousands of militants, are being removed from their positions and trying to hide, to penetrate some into Europe and some into Jordan. Most likely, these are just thugs who participated in theatrical executions. The former military, members of the Iraqi Ba'ath party, would hardly have fallen to such chaos.

“It’s a paradox, but precisely because of their martial art, the IS and achieved all their success. Recall that the group recently nearly took Baghdad. That is, while some actually fought, others "cut the Bosch" into cameras. One with a bipod, seven with a spoon. Further success in the confrontation with the IS can be connected with the neutralization of these former cadre military, ”said Aksenov.

The political scientist is convinced that in the ranks of the IG they found themselves in general by chance: they fought as partisans against the Yankees who had seized Iraq. Americans were hanged by Saddam, and his Fedayins were in the category of "terrorists." If it were possible to detach these people from the IS, the group would weaken militarily very strongly. Most likely fatal.


The military success of the IG is the merit of the personnel officers of Iraq. Photo: Jassim Mohammed / AP

“They need to be trite to seduce. Promise, for example, posts in Baghdad. Then, after the victory. And the amnesty, of course, too. It can be held directly on the party lists. Apparently, our military attaches, those whom the Iraqis can somehow trust, must do this. When Russian planes bombed them from the west and thrust the government al-Assad army in the east, and in the east Russian military attaches will be offered an honorary position and opportunity to live, a simple Iraqi warrior will throw his IG without hesitation. The thugs will be left alone with themselves, ”believes Sergey Aksenov.

Naturally, among the Sunnis are actively promoting, explaining that Russia is at war with Islam. The deputy editor-in-chief of the newspaper Izvestia, Anastasia Kashevarova, reminded the RP that a video appeared on the network about the victims in Syria from alleged air strikes of our Aerospace Forces. The Baathists are specially targeted against the Russian Federation, the journalist concludes.

“The video is terrible no matter who did it. But this is a provocation. Russia does not bomb the civilian population of Syria. Air strikes are applied pointwise at weapons, ammunition depots, communications centers. But not by the civilian population. Of course, I, as a mother, cannot look at these atrocities, and doubts can arise in each of us. But I do not really believe, but I know for sure that this is a fake. And this will be enough. This is a fake - test for the lice of every Russian to surrender and condemn the power, this is what our foreign "friends" are seeking. If you have a heart and a mind, then do not be fooled by it. Russia does not fight against Muslims. The Islamic State is fighting against Muslims and representatives of other religions, ”Anastasia Kashevarova emphasized.

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, explained to the federal media, Izvestia and the Russian Planet, that the patrons of the Iblis state began to show anxiety and are trying to incite the Sunnis from the Baath Party against Russia. According to him, after making sure that Russian aviation is operating effectively, they began to play the Sunni-Shiites card. Reported statements that the Islamic state is not a terrorist organization. What is supposedly a Sunni, opposing Shiites, fighting against Sunni around the world.

“These are absurd statements! More than 60 of the most famous Islamic religious figures from dozens of countries around the world carried out the official fatwa declaring the Iblis state (ISIS. - RP) the enemy of Islam, the enemy of the Ummah of the Prophet (p.Av.). Most fatwa authors are Sunni. Moreover, I, like all my ancestors, was, is and always will be Sunni. I am the main Sunni on this earth! And I say that the IG consists of a rabble collected by Western secret services from all over the world. They first destroy the Sunnis. I ask you not to give in to these provocations of the special services. They gave rise to al Qaeda, Iblis state, destroyed Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, caused chaos in Egypt. Open your eyes to it! The guardians of the Iblisian state, who raised their heads in individual countries, act on the orders of their Western masters, who are concerned about the prospect of eliminating the IG and restoring peace in the Middle East. This is not in their plans. Their task is to maintain for decades the military conflicts in the region, to divert from other world problems, to keep raw materials under constant control. No one should doubt the firmness of the position of the Russian leadership on the Middle East problem. We cannot endlessly listen to threats against us, silently observe how an international terrorist organization is gathering at our side, destroying countries and shedding the blood of millions of people. IG days are numbered. For those who are looking for addresses, I inform you that I am the first pilot of Russian aviation who dealt a blow to the positions of the Iblis state. And now I am at the helm in the sky of Syria. My address and telephone numbers are known, ”Ramzan Kadyrov said in an interview with the Republic of Poland.

"I am Fedayin Saddam"


In 2003, the war began in Iraq. I can tell you how we saw it - the young military leaders and people involved in the patriotic cause. At that time, we were reading out literature that was already permitted - books by Julius Evola and Guenon, were evil anti-Americanists, and pushed the thresholds of the Iraqi embassy, ​​where we were asked to send us, as Spanish volunteers, to help “good Saddam” to “beat bad Yankees”. The Arabs smiled at the magnificent pitch whiskers, but did not hurry to send us anywhere.

At the embassy, ​​where we had already become accustomed, and without embarrassment, we moved along long corridors, then leafing through incomprehensible books in Arabic, or devastating the kitchen, we were taken for our own people, affectionately calling Saddam fedadins. Towards the summer, a letter was delivered from the son of Saddam Udey Hussein al Tikriti. He wrote that, despite the aggression of the imperialists, Iraq will survive, the gardens of Baghdad will rustle, and the good old life will begin under the wise leadership of the Ba'ath Party. Separately, he said thanks to the Russian friends, but refused to help, asserting that there was no one more devoted to the Iraqi army. Of course, all these were common words, and Uday himself would be killed in Mosul in a shootout in a month and a half.

We must pay tribute: the real Fedayin Saddam - and it was a volunteer police - lasted until the fall of the regime of Hussein and then joined the partisan movement. This organization was created by Uday in 1995 and became its commander-in-chief. True, the idea of ​​Udei to turn this militia into an elite personal army failed. In September, the scandal broke 1996: Saddam Hussein suddenly found out that high-tech military equipment and heavy machinery strangely flow from the Republican Guard to the Fedaiins.

Of course, now the Fedains of Saddam are put up in an unattractive form - allegedly they carried out all the whims of their commander: throughout the country they captured beautiful girls for him, cut off tongues from opponents of the regime and intimidated the population. And in 1998, in the Shiite city of Karbala, the Fedayins in black robes and black helmets Darth Vader covered their faces raided people who they suspected of attempting to attack BAAS secretary Izzat Ibrahim - hundreds of people were thrown into prison and tortured.


Izat Ibrahim - the right hand of Saddam - became the chief military commander of the IS in Iraq. Photo: Jockel Finck / AP

This armed group took an active part in the executions of prostitutes organized by Uday Hussein. But at the same time, when the invasion of Iraq began, the command of the US Army declared: "It is not the regular units of the Iraqi army that have the most fierce resistance, but the so-called Saddam fedahins are fanatically paramilitary units."

During the war, Uday said that the war should be total and there should be no one left who could rejoice over the victory over Iraq. And then the massacre in Umm Qasr, in Basra, in Az-Zubayr, in An-Nasiriyah, in An-Najaf was already in full swing ...

By the way, in Arabic “Fedayin” means “sacrificing himself.” After the fall of Saddam’s regime, the Fedayins, the commanders close to him, launched a partisan movement in Iraq and fought fanatically against the US Armed Forces. When the Islamic State began to take shape in the province, many of the militia joined its ranks - this explains the victories of the Islamic State.

But what about Izzat Ibrahim?


Russia's interest in the defeat of the takfirist grouping in Syria and Iraq arises in part because of the traditional friendly relations between Moscow and the countries that took shape during the Soviet era. Therefore, according to experts, the union of takfirists from the IG and the Baathists is extremely unpleasant for the Russian Federation, since the Baath League has always been a part of the Russian orbit of influence.

In addition, the reluctance of the official Baghdad to deal with the militants could lead to the displacement of the current regime and the strengthening of ISIS in Iraq, which is likely to lead to the return of the caliph to Syria and further, according to plans to establish control over many Arab, African and Central Asian countries. The latter can not but worry Russia, next to which Tajikistan and Uzbekistan are located.

In a conversation with the “Russian Planet”, the President of the Society for Friendship and Business Cooperation with Arab countries Vyacheslav Matuzov noted that he doubted the active participation of Baathists in the IG. According to him, all the talk about the role of "Saddam officers" among ISIS is conducted only to disguise the role of the United States in creating this terrorist structure.

"It is unlikely that all of them can be classified as" militants "by the state of age and health.

The militants from Chechnya organized, for example, in a separate division. Like the Libyan under the leadership of Abdel Hakim Belhadj. And so everywhere. Even if there are "Saddam officers", they are aged and hardly play any important role at all. Is that in the flushed imagination of a large specialist in the Middle East, "Comrade Bagdasarov," calling for the formation of volunteer battalions from Russia, "- said his version of Matuzov.

Konstantin Sivkov, First Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, believes that the officers from the BAAS are actually Russian allies. Many of them were trained in academies in our country, he recalls.

“Therefore, first of all, the Russian special services need to work with them, establish contacts and transfer them to the number of allies of the Syrian government forces. Because these guys are actually fighting not for the “Islamic State”, they are fighting for the liberation of their country from the occupation regime, which they consider the current Iraqi authorities, who were imprisoned by the United States, ”explains Sivkov.

According to the expert, the Iraqi military need to get in touch, look for common ground for interaction and explain to them the prospects for the return of an independent Iraq. This is the only right strategy will deal a serious blow to the IG.

“As for the range of proposals for them, it is quite wide. It can be suggested that they go over to the side of the Syrian government and guarantee the corresponding social status in the army. The second step will be a guarantee of participation in the political life of Iraq, a return to the Iraqi army to the same positions and, perhaps, even an increase, taking into account the experience gained. The most important thing is to guarantee them that Iraq will no longer be under American control, and they will thus be able to take part in the liberation of Iraq from the American occupation, ”said Sivkov.

Obviously, the military formations winning victories throughout the Middle East are precisely the Fedadins of Saddam, the personnel soldiers trained by Russian specialists. Bomb attacks, the defeat of the Iraqi grouping in Syria is the main task, but we must remember that the problems will not be solved only with TNT rugs. Moscow should resume friendly contacts with the Ba'ath. After that, the IG will fall. The army of Saddam can become a friend of Russia.
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  1. marlin1203 9 October 2015 14: 57 New
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    If these Fedayins are such great warriors, why did they merge Iraq and Saddam so quickly? Already on their land they could rest. And now, together with other candidates in the desert, they are chasing and regretting the past.
    1. avt
      avt 9 October 2015 15: 32 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      If these Fedayins are such great warriors, why did they merge Iraq and Saddam so quickly? Already on their land they could rest.

      And many top officers, “rested” when the hunchback leaked the USSR and they poured it into Viskuli for three ?, Officer meeting “under the direction of a marshal, who laughs,” you don’t want to remember?
      Quote: Alex28
      Controversial statement.

      From what ? Quite a working topic for residency in the region.
      1. Sterlya 9 October 2015 15: 58 New
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        In all this, one can see how the United States acts, like an elephant in a china shop. They came, they destroyed everything, without thinking about anything.
        In principle, there is nothing more to expect from these cynical slow-thinking people. they do not think about anything else except the dollar. for the American God, this is the dollar, this is the only thing they depend on, and what really bothers them. The threat to the dollar, the biggest threat to the usa
        1. SanSuh 9 October 2015 21: 41 New
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          It’s good that Kadyrov act as McCain and urge Muslims to jihad against the mattresses. And what, they do not shun any means and establish their own rules, so it is necessary to play with them according to their rules. Kadyrov, one hell will not be anything)). It's not for nothing that in Crimea I bought a T-shirt with him, Putin and Lavrov in unloading)))

          Then, of course, the Kremlin will say that this is not an official position, but the call will remain ... And there will be something for the hot heads of the Transcaucasian republics to do. They need some kind of goal.
          1. proletarian 9 October 2015 23: 24 New
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            He put a “minus”, sorry, but it’s impossible, Russia needs to make friends, not just another “crap on her ... opu”, so I recommend that you learn more about what “jihad” is, because there is little jihad and big jihad, and between these There is a huge difference in terms, I ask Muslims to respond on this issue!
      2. Stirbjorn 9 October 2015 16: 12 New
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        Quote: avt
        And many top officers, “rested” when the hunchback leaked the USSR and they poured it into Viskuli for three ?, Officer meeting “under the direction of a marshal, who laughs,” you don’t want to remember?
        And then in 93 the Supreme Council was shot. Here the other day an article was about it hi
        1. avt
          avt 9 October 2015 16: 45 New
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          And then in 93 the Supreme Council was shot. Here the other day an article was about it

          I saw all this at the intersection of Sadovoy with Tchaikovsky St. hi
          1. avt
            avt 9 October 2015 17: 07 New
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            Quote: avt
            I saw all this at the intersection of Sadovoy with Tchaikovsky St.

            Ouch! Smorizil - distracted! wassat With Kalininsky, what’s now called New Arbat. Here’s a shame - I send it without looking at what is written. request Sorry . hi
          2. Sling cutter 9 October 2015 17: 11 New
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            Quote: avt
            I saw all this at the intersection of Sadovoy with Tchaikovsky St.

            but it is possible in more detail ..., it would be interesting to hear an eyewitness account.
            I was just driving through Moscow in those days, traveling on a business trip to Kirov. While there was time before the train, I went for a walk in the center, the situation was obviously, to put it mildly, tense ...
            Due to the lack of time, I did not have time to really see and understand anything (maybe for the better), only in the compartment of the train Muscovites, for a snack, told what was happening ... hi
            1. captain 9 October 2015 17: 55 New
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              It seems to me that the author is right that the former military of the Iraqi army and the Fedain are needed, the more the military leaves the ranks of the IG, the faster and with less casualties it will be possible to put an end to this plague. "As for the range of proposals for them, it’s enough wide It can be suggested that they go over to the side of the Syrian government, and guarantee an appropriate social status in the army. The second step will be a guarantee of participation in the political life of Iraq, a return to the Iraqi army to the same posts and, perhaps, even an increase in the light of experience gained. The most important thing is to guarantee them that Iraq will no longer be under American control and that they can thus take part in the liberation of Iraq from American occupation, ”says Sivkov. I agree with him. Our Foreign Ministry should begin work in this direction, unless of course it has already begun.
            2. avt
              avt 9 October 2015 19: 33 New
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              Quote: Stroporez
              but it is possible in more detail ..., it would be interesting to hear an eyewitness account.

              People sat on the roofs, on the bridge and watched like a 3D movie. Do not believe me, but even with a wheelchair a woman walked in front of me! Almost at Sadovoy, and this is quite far even from the CMEA building and in another direction, the doctors picked up an ambulance for the wounded, I do not know the further fate. People nearby fool .... the impression is that there is no fear even nearby - they stand and look. And with me one fell through and at that moment there was no shooting - they obviously worked with a silencer and stuffed civilians on the counter. Then they drove the army men with an armored personnel carrier, before that there was a guy in civilian clothes with Stechkin, like a poplar on Plyushchikha, making two-handed preparations, they sadaned the KPVT on the roof. They put up a cordon just under the curtain, almost when the House was already burning and Rutsky, who walkie-talkie screamed - the pilots bomb the Kremlin, brought out with Khazbulatov. But when I surrendered to the group ,, A "- ,, guys, I didn’t shoot, I have an automatic machine in oil" and, but according to the words of the former ones, -, to the embassy, but it is the opposite, the very wiretap in which Bakatin leaked. Khazbulatov walked silently. The group under the command of Zaitsev took them without firing a shot! The person with whom life has brought me together, whom I trusted and who never told me too much, has now passed away, said so, “I was in touch and there was an interception when we entered the House,” “Wet Alpha.” Yes - landing pulled itself into the city when the tanks were already firing - BMD came from Smolenskaya, and before that there was only Vityaz and riot police on the street, and in minimal quantities, well, people in civilian clothes. This is only in the morning, and before that when the cordon was removed from the House and Mokashev entered the CMEA building and drove off to Ostankino at night, in the center in general silence and no one, the defenders “ravaged one stall at night — he saw it himself, but those that in the inner part of the Ring didn’t touch, they had enough of the campaign and didn’t reach It’s somehow brief and chaotic, but I witnessed it myself. Yes, here’s another - there was a cop on the corner of the house before firing, you can see from the teaching staff. Imagine a figure almost like a fat Amer’s policeman, maybe a little drier laughing in a greatcoat, over it a light bulletproof vest, well, on it like a bra on a woman, and in a helmet with Ksyusha in her hands she was in his hands like a toy and everything rushed from right to left for a couple of steps. how the first shooting began clearly from the roof - it formed near the house so it did not even face the wall - between the legs like a hedgehog and an assault rifle inside and with all its fullness - an adult knee-deep! I kind of AHHHHrenel from this kind, even for five seconds stood up in a stupor! laughing I swear to God - I haven’t seen SUCH like that before! That’s what an elephant would be like in a bun with a hedgehog!
              1. Sling cutter 10 October 2015 13: 35 New
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                Quote: avt
                avt

                Thank you so much for the story hi
                From my impressions there remained an “fast” people scurrying around in the middle of the street, a trolley with lowered “horns” and a feeling of something nasty happening around.
                I really wanted to stay to see and fix everything in my memory, but the official need ... I remember the station, the confused cops and, lo and behold, the trains leaving on schedule ... for short.
                I was driving back in a week, but I didn’t feel like going for a walk in the center, because I already clearly knew what happened .... and the most disgusting thing was that the ebony won ...
                PS. I hope to talk more on this topic. hi
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    2. olegator 9 October 2015 15: 54 New
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      they were remotely ironed by NATO to the state of partisans. they bombed everything that they could. local rested as they could. but technical backwardness did not allow to survive. but partisan. pendo_satan technique regularly flew into the air.
      1. neri73-r 9 October 2015 16: 37 New
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        Quote: olegator
        they were remotely ironed by NATO to the state of partisans. they bombed everything that they could. local rested as they could. but technical backwardness did not allow to survive. but partisan. pendo_satan technique regularly flew into the air.


        The fact that they were ironed is one thing, but the fact that the SGA (USA) bought the general and he did not give a command to resist, that’s the main thing! The troops did not know what to do, they were disorganized, and so they were dispersed.
        1. 34 region 9 October 2015 23: 25 New
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          Here you have the allies! Type army and navy. Well, just like in the USSR. And the army was, and two fleets (sea and air), and nuclear weapons. But! Money struck all echelons of defense.
    3. Combitor 9 October 2015 23: 15 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      why did they merge Iraq and Saddam so quickly?

      Money, my friend, money. This is a very good motivation. I think there is no need to give examples of how, like, the fanatical "loyalty" and "loyalty" of some easily turned into a cake, if you put a bundle of banknotes on top.
    4. 34 region 9 October 2015 23: 16 New
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      So the bombing of Iraq began, it seems, with the bombing of his leadership with suitcases with bucks. After the war, even the rally was near the US embassy with a demand to give the other half honestly earned. Who in the know (true or not) can enlighten?
    5. Skif83 10 October 2015 07: 40 New
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      Well, they are great warriors at their level ...
      And there are the greatest, like Russia!
      In general, this
      They need to be corny seduced. Promise, for example, posts in Baghdad. Then, after the victory. And amnesty, of course, too
      - misses and shortcomings in our Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Intelligence Service, the FSB, etc.
      What prevented and hinders doing this everywhere and always, i.e. to multiply the number of allies and vassals? Stupid government with stupid officials in all structures? I see no other reasons ...
  2. silberwolf88 9 October 2015 14: 58 New
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    Nothing new and surprising ... There are always people who are ready to fight for their ideas and go to the end. Moreover, the ideas of the Ba'ath and Hussein were far from the worst (can be compared with replacement with dem. Values) for this region and Iraq itself in particular.
    It would be very constructive to engage in dialogue with former supporters of Saddam Hussein ...
    1. fif21 9 October 2015 16: 45 New
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      Quote: silberwolf88
      There are always people who are ready to fight for their ideas and go to the end. Moreover, the ideas of Baath and Hussein were far from the worst
      What prevents Assad and Russia from appealing to the Ba'ath leaders with a proposal to leave Syria and assert their rights in their country Iraq, or join the Assad army. Is it really difficult to explain that fighting with Assad, they are fighting in the interests of the United States. NATO and the USA openly declare that they want to "isolate" Russia, and therefore we are not interested in the problems of pro-American Baghdad. hi Lavrov auuuu.
      1. 34 region 9 October 2015 23: 28 New
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        I think work in this direction is underway. And the experience of Afghanistan and Chechnya will be taken into account.
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    3. Beaver 9 October 2015 17: 30 New
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      Quote: silberwolf88
      It would be very constructive to engage in dialogue with former supporters of Saddam Hussein ...

      It will be a brilliant victory for Russian intelligence and diplomats; it will very much raise Russia's authority not only in the BV. bully
      1. 34 region 9 October 2015 23: 30 New
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        The credibility of Russia will only increase the economic growth of Iraq. Everything else is empty. War must be waged economically. The USSR (91-93) was the victim of this war.
  3. Aleks28 9 October 2015 14: 58 New
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    Moscow should resume friendly contacts with the Ba'ath. After that, the IG will fall. The army of Saddam can become a friend of Russia.
    Controversial statement ... Although the idea deserves attention.
    1. Scoun 9 October 2015 16: 09 New
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      Quote: Alex28
      Moscow should resume friendly contacts with the Ba'ath. After that, the IG will fall. The army of Saddam can become a friend of Russia.
      Controversial statement ... Although the idea deserves attention.

      It deserves attention, if only because the top officers of the Baath Party were trained in Soviet and Russian military universities.
      1. Aleks28 9 October 2015 17: 38 New
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        Quote: Scoun
        It deserves attention, if only because the top officers of the Baath Party were trained in Soviet and Russian military universities.

        Few Afghan field commanders trained in the USSR?
    2. Lelek 9 October 2015 19: 22 New
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      Quote: Alex28
      .Although the idea deserves attention.


      Well, for starters, at least a scatter of leaflets from the air.
  4. Vyacheslav 64 9 October 2015 15: 02 New
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    Once again, we are convinced of the usefulness of teaching foreign students at us, both civilian and military. True practice, it must be continued and expanded.
    1. Beaver 9 October 2015 17: 35 New
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      Quote: Vyacheslav 64
      True practice, it must be continued and expanded.

      good Yes and yes again. A person who lived in Russia, who saw everything with his own eyes, is unlikely to believe the false fabrications of foreign media about the "bloodthirsty Russian barbarians" and other nonsense negative repeating which is useless. hi
  5. boris117 9 October 2015 15: 09 New
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    It is necessary to use all kinds of opportunities in the fight against ISIS fanatics, including Fedaines. Russia has always been an opponent of the US invasion of Iraq. This will allow many of the former Iraqi military to go over to the side of opponents of the "Islamic" state.
  6. Altona 9 October 2015 15: 11 New
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    Quote: marlin1203
    If these Fedayins are such great warriors, why did they merge Iraq and Saddam so quickly?

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    If they are such great warriors, then why did they swear an oath and swore an ISIS?
    1. anfil 9 October 2015 15: 31 New
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      As former Iraqi army officers testify, the stupid and extravagant orders of Saddam Hussein and his son Kusai accelerated the collapse of the demoralized Iraqi army. Saddam Hussein and his son Kusai led the Iraqi army to defeat due to numerous extravagant orders and strategic miscalculations, while the combat units had almost no connection with each other, they were paralyzed, because they did not know what to do in which side to move. All this was combined with incompetence, poor preparation, cowardly leadership and mass desertion of thousands of soldiers who did not want to die for Saddam Hussein.

      <...> The command structure was also from the very beginning in complete confusion. Since Saddam Hussein was panicky afraid of conspiracies, he did not want to create a centralized command, but replaced him with a number of rival and warring groups, including the Republican Guard, the Special Republican Guard and Saday Fedayunov. Their commanders simply did not talk to each other.

      While these elite units were perfectly armed and received good money, the regular infantry units received almost nothing, and for everything they were given to the machine guns, one store each. The commanders of the regular units planned to undermine the elite units, distorting information and avoiding clashes with the advancing American army.

      Many units were divided due to tribal hostility, which also prevented coordination. “We were like 10 of individual armies waging their own war,” said Nabil Kusai, a former officer and member of the Baath Party, who fought in a bunker in northern Baghdad, not knowing that there were fighting in the center of the city. <...>
      Personnel officers say that management betrayed them. Colonel Fike said: “Professional soldiers cannot fight without orders and an inspiring example from their leaders.” But instead of leadership, we had clowns. This is our tragedy. ”
  7. Orlenok ILLI4A 9 October 2015 15: 13 New
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    The rules of the war for 2500 years have not changed - divide and rule, the author of the rights must bring discord into the "grouping" - as a result, some must commit suicide, others must be poisoned, others must disassemble the grenade at home and explode. IMHO.
  8. Engineer 9 October 2015 15: 14 New
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    Finally, at least one author on the site said that the Islamic State is not a bunch of fanatics with AK and the military success is due to the former military of Hussein, whom the Americans simply threw out into the street, seize power in Iraq and put power in the power structures loyal to them. And they became the core of the IG.
    1. Scoun 9 October 2015 16: 16 New
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      Quote: Engineer
      Finally, at least one author on the site said that the IG is not a bunch of fanatics with AK and military success is the merit of the former military of Hussein

      Yes, here on the forum the comrades already laid out this information ... but apart from the minuses from the young quacks of the patriots, they didn’t get anything))) and so many orientalists wrote and talked about this for a long time
      Haji Bakr brought the military professionalism to ISIS with him and influenced the transition to the Islamists of many other former Iraqi officers and Ba'ath members.

      The most unusual feature of ISIS is that the former Ba'ath members, the mid-level military of the army of Saddam Hussein, were actually able to take control and take advantage of not the most influential ...
  9. Yunik 9 October 2015 15: 15 New
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    No negotiations with the terrorists.
    1. Luga 9 October 2015 15: 36 New
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      No negotiations with the terrorists.

      A strange comment if you look at where it came from. I don’t put a minus, but I want to note that this is how the drums are broadcasting - no negotiations with terrorists, especially Russians, who are terrorizing the unfortunate Ukraine, the Syrian moderate opposition and even him with his own political steps.
      If a person is taken away from his house, land, work - his own country, forced to live according to laws that are alien and nasty to him, put on his neck the boss-traitor, he willy-nilly, if he has at least a little sense of self-esteem, will begin to take revenge. In this case, of secondary importance is who to be friends with, hatred comes first. So who is he? Terrorist?
      Return to him the house, family, work, return HIS homeland to him and he will cease to be him.
    2. Simon 9 October 2015 16: 07 New
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      Negotiations are needed! Many officers and soldiers in the IS got by chance or in a hopeless situation and it is imperative to negotiate with them, because they are not murderers, but soldiers, and they must fight for their state and protect their people.
  10. morozik 9 October 2015 15: 16 New
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    and they were friends with Syria, and friends with the Baath, and friends with the Kurds ... before the diplomacy, an incredibly huge task is to unravel this Gordian knot
  11. bronik 9 October 2015 15: 17 New
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    Everything seems to be a breeze, but we don’t really need a serious military conflict with the United States over Iraq. So it’s easier with promises.
    1. Simon 9 October 2015 16: 14 New
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      The United States will never fight with Russia, as they are afraid of Russia. They can fight with Russia only with the wrong hands or in the media start some kind of pursuit against us in order to denigrate Russia on a global scale, as they do now.
  12. azbukin77 9 October 2015 15: 17 New
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    Russia, under any pretext, needs to unite these warring factions to fight the main and worst enemy of Islam. USA! ! ! Explain to them intelligibly who brought suffering and blood to their land. And they themselves will figure it out !!!
  13. starshina pv 9 October 2015 15: 19 New
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    Kadyrov holds a brand !!!
  14. BLACK-SHARK-64 9 October 2015 15: 21 New
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    It is very logical and promising ... The IG really consists of a heterogeneous mass .... And if part of this patriotic mass can be pulled out of the mass of bandits, then it is worth working hard .... The result will be positive. !!! am
  15. BLACK-SHARK-64 9 October 2015 15: 22 New
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    It is very logical and promising ... The IG really consists of a heterogeneous mass .... And if part of this patriotic mass can be pulled out of the mass of bandits, then it is worth working hard .... The result will be positive. !!! am
  16. parusnik 9 October 2015 15: 32 New
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    Moscow should resume friendly contacts with Baas... I would clarify friendly contacts with the Ba'ath of Iraq .. By the way, the Ba'ath is the ruling party in Syria ..
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      . I would clarify friendly contacts with the Ba'ath of Iraq .. By the way, the Ba'ath is the ruling party in Syria ..

      Well then, clarify to the end that there were times when, under Papa Bashar, Iraq and Surya were generally a Union State, but not for long - two birds in one lair did not sit. Although Iraq sent a division to the Syrian front to fight with Israel.
    2. Anatole 9 October 2015 16: 12 New
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      By the way, yes, besides, the Kurds have an unequivocal attitude towards the Baathists.
  17. Denis DV 9 October 2015 15: 38 New
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    The Iraqi people should become a friend. An army without a people is a gang soldier
  18. Urri 9 October 2015 15: 57 New
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    It is possible to deprive ISIS of the proposed method for staff officers. Isn't this what the so-called focal point is busy with. Those who sold for Saddam's pennies will also sell Al-Baghdadi. But this means being measured by the thickness of the wallet with the Saudis, and here "not everything is so simple." But to present materials that Al-Baghdadi, at the end of the war, made the decision of all Fedaines to stake, but with factology - this is an option.
  19. gav6757 9 October 2015 16: 18 New
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    What I like about Putin is that he doesn’t get personal!
    We (Russia) never spoke badly about Saddam Hussein, and we have a starting point for negotiations with the Ba'ath.
    It is necessary to take advantage of the old ties and persuade the Ba'ath to its side, and at the same time, it is necessary to hold talks with the current Iraqi government and obtain guarantees from them for the Ba'ath.
    And then - we are on a horse, and striped-star - under a horse !!!
  20. Reptiloid 9 October 2015 16: 46 New
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    Russia and the USSR have always had the experience of friendly, allied relations with other nations.
    I believe in Putin’s multi-trip and I hope that everything will be decided as it should.
  21. Sergey-8848 9 October 2015 16: 47 New
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    The theoretical, political, ideological base of the Ba'ath (PAAS) has been actively destroyed more than one day. On BV, without the hidden (or explicit) participation of renegades (traitors), nothing was done, by the way.
    Comrade Sukhov and others like them are right at all 300% - here it is necessary to be more brutal! We are not cowboys, some sneaky or clownish descendants of Bandera; we and those people still have to establish life with them later and live next to each other.
  22. gladysheff2010 9 October 2015 17: 00 New
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    Do not rely on frank friendship, not everyone is capable of it! But it is necessary to carry out explanatory work (a very difficult matter). Hussein fell victim to his own misconceptions and what, frank speculation, is true, against the background of the collapse of the USSR, then obvious to many.
  23. SPB 1221 9 October 2015 17: 18 New
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    We do not need such friendship, but, gentlemen, officers of the former Iraqi army, we will be glad to welcome you into our ranks with the fight against ISIS. If you have the honor and conscience, pride for your country, which was destroyed and bombed by the American armed forces, which without trial and investigation executed the leader of your great Arab state, if you have pride in your epaulets, for your ranks, for YOUR GREAT Iraqi The PEOPLE for which you are now responsible, you will be with Russia, with the state where Christians and Muslims live together !!!
  24. Alekspel 9 October 2015 20: 42 New
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    Americans can only be envied. How clearly they worked in Libya, Iraq, etc. And Ukraine was taken from under our nose. And they do not care who and what says about them. They achieved their goals and that’s it. And with us, the leaders like the hunchback and the yolkin did not care about the country, but about themselves and their image. As a result, the country (USSR) is not. And where is the vaunted KGB and the invincible army? The country was lucky that it was headed by Putin, but the fifth column did not disappear. All these gozmans and hope are outspoken Amerian henchmen. They are at least in sight, but how many are hidden. So Americans need to be criticized, but much should be learned from them. In particular, it is high time to establish a service dedicated to destabilizing the situation in the camp of adversaries (I hope that there is one), but we need to work regardless of what Western colleagues say. They are not shy. Ashton Carter threatened us with terrorist attacks, and they need to organize some kind of ferguson in the states, let them scratch their turnips. It’s necessary to brush more bristly!
    1. Petrix 10 October 2015 09: 07 New
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      Are you suggesting that Russians become Americans? From creators to become destroyers?
      "...
      Like two different poles,
      In everything we are hostile:
      We fight for light and peace
      They are for the kingdom of darkness.
      ... "
      We are different not only in goals, but also in methods of achieving them.
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  25. Kamchatsky 9 October 2015 21: 31 New
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    Quote: Simon
    Many officers and soldiers in the IS got by chance or in a hopeless situation and it is imperative to negotiate with them, because they are not murderers, but soldiers, and they must fight for their state and protect their people.

    Explain to me, an uneducated civilian, what the hell ... are they fighting in Syria, and not in Iraq with the Americans? Or is the Iraqi military already protecting itself from the adversary?
  26. Asadullah 9 October 2015 21: 55 New
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    - believes Sergey Aksenov


    And he thinks badly. Who will negotiate with the Ba'athists? The second point, who declares himself so in the IG? The answer is unequivocal - no one. But, you can divide Iraq into two states, the North and the South, and seduce a "group of comrades" with a tit in your hand, and most importantly, in the hand of a living person, not a dead terrorist, smeared with crane droppings ....