In "Almaz-Anthea" state that a full-scale experiment confirms the data on the impact on the Malaysian "Boeing-777" from the air defense system "Buk-М1"

Concern Almaz-Antey published a statement about the final results of the experiment, the purpose of which was to obtain data on the type of weapons used against the Malaysian Boeing-777 in July last year. As the press service of the concern, the experiment was full-scale and full-scale and had a high cost.


The message that appeared on the official the site of JSC Concern air defense "Almaz - Antey", as follows:

A preliminary analysis of the results of the field experiment confirmed the Concern's version of the conditions for meeting a rocket with an aircraft, announced at a press conference in Moscow on 2 on June 2015 of the year.

Despite the rather large cost of the work, the Concern conducted funding for the study of the causes of the Malaysian Boeing-777 disaster in the skies over Ukraine entirely at its own expense.

The full results of the field experiment will be announced at the Concern's press conference in Moscow on October 13 2015.


As you can see, the concern is ready to confirm the data, according to which the plane flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur 17 on July 2014, was hit by the very ground-to-air missile fired from the Buk-M1 system.

In "Almaz-Anthea" state that a full-scale experiment confirms the data on the impact on the Malaysian "Boeing-777" from the air defense system "Buk-М1"


Recall that earlier the concern’s specialists stated that they would conduct an experiment using the fuselage of one of the decommissioned Boeing airliners.

On October 13 not only the press conference of Almaz-Antey specialists is scheduled, but also the publication of the “final” report of the international investigation team.
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  1. Sterlya 8 October 2015 19: 25 New
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    And even without a full-scale test, it has long been clear that dill was shot down. And how many facts do not bring to the “world community”, they look at their new gates like sheep and bleat their own, and will continue to do the same
    1. vyinemeynen 8 October 2015 19: 27 New
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      We are waiting for arguments, they are not superfluous! hi
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      2. Persistent 8 October 2015 20: 11 New
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        So for reference, on the map from the Caspian Sea 1500 km that to Syria, that to Kiev. laughing

        On the 26th salute salute, four ships of the Caspian flotilla congratulated Putin on his birthday.
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          Erg 8 October 2015 20: 44 New
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          I don’t understand - why did they congratulate the 26th? It should have been 63. recourse
          1. Kiroant 8 October 2015 22: 02 New
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            The rest of the aviation added. wink
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          3. Rarahin 8 October 2015 22: 09 New
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            You know the conspirology: 62 is 26.
            Why not 36 then? I explain: because - they left ...

            wink wink wink
          4. maxxdesign 9 October 2015 01: 38 New
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            these 26 for 11 purposes so flown into the penny of Russia! But apparently aviation was too risky, and it’s necessary to show the geyrope that our missiles will reach calmly any NATO missile defense! and the more of these about themselves posted, the more they will be under the gun
        2. Zoldat_A 8 October 2015 21: 50 New
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          Quote: Persistent
          So for reference, on the map from the Caspian Sea 1500 km that to Syria, that to Kiev.

          I thought that one of the goals of the Syrian operation of Russia is the desire to explain to the most dull for Russia in Ukraine there are no tasks that could not be completed in 72 hours. If we wanted to occupy Ukraine, then Piglet would not have to repeat the mantra "We are at war with Russia, at war with Russia, give money, at war with Russia ..." It would be necessary to occupy Ukraine-they would occupy, and would not have been jostling for a year and a half in the Donbas, as ukrovoyaki try to tell ....
      3. veksha50 8 October 2015 20: 47 New
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        Quote: vyinemeynen
        We are waiting for arguments, they are not superfluous!



        for the "civilized world community" the conclusion of the Russian concern is not an authoritative argument, it is high time to understand this ...

        The question is different ... How much can we make excuses ???

        PS Sometimes such an evil desire appears so that the Boeings of all countries that are numbing Russia from the sky would fall ...
        1. Baikal 8 October 2015 21: 30 New
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          The question is different ... How much can we justify ourselves ???

          Look at it the other way. An experiment is a way to raise this topic and prevent it from being safely forgotten. Everyone must remember that we all remember and write.
        2. APASUS 8 October 2015 22: 07 New
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          Quote: veksha50
          The question is different ... How much can we justify ourselves ???

          For this reason, it’s not worthwhile to put forward additional versions and publish the results of the experiments until the report of the joint British-Dutch, Ukrainian-Malaysian, American-French commission is published.
          In fact, it is necessary to verify each fact indicated, and not argue with emptiness!
          1. aleksfill 8 October 2015 23: 03 New
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            That's right!
            We must wait for the announcement of the results of the investigation by the Dutch.
            There is an opinion and it is not unreasonable: Justified - it means GUILTY.
        3. Zoldat_A 8 October 2015 22: 09 New
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          Quote: veksha50
          The question is different ... How much can we make excuses ??

          And we have been trying to get us to make excuses for something over the past 25 years. For Ivan the Terrible, for Peter the Great, for Lenin, for Stalin, for that, for that ... For the fact that we do not want to self-destruct and transfer our resources under the control of the Saxon-Saxons.

          And what is surprising - before that, they were only proud of 70 years - Aurora and electrification, collectivization and industrialization, May 45th and April 61st, hockey and ballet, finally ... And now they are trying to teach us to make excuses.

          But to hell with them! To whom hunting - let them make excuses. Naglo-Saxons for pirates, India and two world wars, America for Mexican Indians and further down the line, Germans for Hitler, Jews for Rothschild ... For example, I have nothing to justify. And I put it on that Boeing with a parting - I'm sick of it already! As well as the allegedly passenger Boeing of 1983 ... Especially since in 1983 they obviously shot down a reconnaissance, but now they didn’t shoot at all. And I'm tired of counting the provocations organized by the USA. Even here, in VO, I have already written more than once about the Maine cruiser, Pearl Harbor, Kennedy, and September 11th ... If the United States has a country that shoots itself, they think that everyone is like that? Yes, and the Germans are no better - some Archduke Ferdinand and the operation "Canned" are worth it!

          A purely liberalist habit - to smear with mud - and you take a swell, make excuses ... Tired of ...

          Already wrote here, but it hurts in the subject. I hope they don’t throw over a repeat with the rags ...
          Jews choose a new rabbi. Abram stands up:
          - We all have long known Rabinovich as an honest person, I propose to choose him!
          Jews (in chorus):
          - Yes, let's choose Rabinovich!
          Yitzchak rises:
          “Now you want to choose Rabinovich the rabbi, and, by the way, his daughter is a prostitute!” Somehow it’s not good!
          Jews (in chorus):
          - Not good!
          Rabinovich gets up:
          - Well, how so! You all know me from childhood! I have lived all my life in the community! And I have three sons and never had a daughter!
          Jews (in chorus):
          - Indeed, how so?
          Yitzhak (shrugging):
          - I expressed my opinion, and you decide ...
        4. Amurets 9 October 2015 05: 18 New
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          I support completely. I don’t know for whom and why RTV wiring is held. I already wrote in the comments that at least 2 air defense radars should have led this board, not counting the civilian controllers who were preparing to receive the MN-17 from the Dnepropetrovsk controllers for piloting a flight through Russia. In the 60-70 years of the 20th century, Dalniy The east was viewed by the then radars to Phillipin and Hawaii, not to mention the bases in the United States in Japan. After take-off of the SR-71, all parts of the 11th Air Defense Army were put on alert in FIVE minutes, and its location was constantly transmitted. I’m not saying. It has happened that civilian dispatchers also asked the air defense officers where the boards they had lost are located. This was rare, but there were such cases.
      4. avg
        avg 8 October 2015 22: 24 New
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        Kakly and for the Tu-154 Siberian Airlines must answer.
    2. Civil 8 October 2015 19: 27 New
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      And who hit it then? On channel 1 and the program, Time said it was a Ukrainian su-25 shot down ... lied or what? 1 channel does not lie.
      1. Vladimir 1964 8 October 2015 20: 03 New
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        Quote: Civil
        1 channel does not lie.


        Vadim, Dear! Are you serious about the first? good hi
        1. pv1005 8 October 2015 20: 08 New
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          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Quote: Civil
          1 channel does not lie.


          Vadim, Dear! Are you serious about the first? good hi

          Accident !? I don’t think so! laughing
      2. figwam 8 October 2015 20: 36 New
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        And who did it hit then?

        First, from the BEECH, after leaving the zone of the air defense action, the Sushka finished off.
        1. figter 9 October 2015 00: 51 New
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          FIG SUV Yesterday, 20: 36 ↑
          And who did it hit then?
          First, from the BEECH, after leaving the zone of the air defense action, the Sushka finished off.

          Believe me, after the rocket of the Buk air defense missile system, she would simply have nothing to finish off. A few dozen kilograms of explosives would have smashed the Boeing to shreds under such ideal shooting conditions. At what they are so perfect that even at the time of shooting, the shooter can drink a cup of coffee. And you need to be a particularly rare individual in order to miss.
          1. Amurets 9 October 2015 05: 36 New
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            figter. If you are an anti-aircraft gunner, explain why the fuse ban channel did not work for the defendant of a passenger plane? In 2004, when the Ukrainians shot at a cruise missile, and hit the Tu-154, there was a mistake in the technical division. And what about Buka? Does it have any blockages? Can you not explain. Enough or no.
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            2. figter 9 October 2015 13: 13 New
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              If the launch of the rocket has already passed for any reason, then it is not a matter of the radio-fuse’s locks. He cocked at the start and his task in time to give a signal to undermine the warhead. Rocket locks are responsible for security, that is, they protect against unauthorized explosions during transportation and storage. Everything closes on a person. It is possible to prevent any aircraft from being hit when the missile is in the air by disrupting the tracking and sending the missile to self-destruct, if time and distance to the target allows, and you can specifically turn off all identification and blocking systems. It all depends on the decision of the commander who is directly involved in the launch. In addition, I am sure that at that time no information was available in the Ukrainian air defense system for requesting the discovery of "friend-foe", and especially passenger planes of foreign companies. They simply did not have them and no. This means that no requests were made, therefore no blocking of the missile can be used.
              Regarding Ukraine, the error of the technical division is the error of the switchman. Their fault can only consist in poor-quality preparation of the rocket for the launch units or its untimely submission. They do not interfere in the rocket device itself, they only check it on special stands, including the control system in flight with compressed air and, if necessary, fill it with fuel (if the rocket is liquid). Think further. Here is the question of where the missile was aimed and the question of ensuring the safety of firing, timely notification of their conduct.
          2. Fight cat 9 October 2015 11: 18 New
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            most likely drying was the controller, there was such an infa that they wanted to bring down board number one of the Russian Federation, the plan really looks like the planes. the drying recognized and gave a positive answer further the air defense calculations took under the hood and knocked him to hell!
            soldier
      3. veksha50 8 October 2015 20: 49 New
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        Quote: Civil
        1 channel does not lie



        They all lie ... Only every channel, every media lies what is preferable to its owner ...

        PS And the truth, the real truth, we probably will never know ...
        1. Vladimir 1964 8 October 2015 21: 33 New
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          Quote: veksha50
          And the truth, the real truth, we probably will never know ...


          Indeed! hi
      4. PSih2097 8 October 2015 21: 54 New
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        Quote: Civil
        On channel 1 and the program, Time said that it was a Ukrainian su-25 shot down

        Drying could also direct a rocket ... especially as there were holes from the shells on the remnants of the Boeing, on the other hand there could be not one rocket, but two or even three.
        1. figter 9 October 2015 00: 09 New
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          PSih2097
          Drying could also direct a rocket ... especially as there were holes from the shells on the remnants of the Boeing, on the other hand there could be not one rocket, but two or even three.

          No missile SU-25 could not direct by its definition, and even more so, the air defense system "Buk-M1"! He does not have such equipment and a light transmitter that operates on the same frequency as the 9М38М1 rocket. Nonsense is all.
      5. Fight cat 9 October 2015 11: 15 New
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        most likely they sent drying for identification, apparently they really counted on knocking down board number one of the Russian Federation, they gave him a picture, he flew up and identified that the plane was the same, then it’s a technical matter, the air defense calculation was ordered to knock down such a square like that! And that’s all! hi
        1. your1970 9 October 2015 12: 34 New
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          Are you serious about the photo and the identification ???? If yes, then the pilot SUSHKY needs to give the Hero of Russia for the salvation of the President of the Russian Federation !!! He’s confused Boeing with IL on purpose !!!
          ZY hasn’t been laughing so long fellow lol good good
    3. Observer2014 8 October 2015 19: 31 New
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      In "Almaz-Anthea" state that a full-scale experiment confirms the data on the impact on the Malaysian "Boeing-777" from the air defense system "Buk-М1"
      Almaz-Antey is just one question: do you have nothing else to do ?!
      They, to prove something, are like throwing beads in front of a pig.
      1. Vladimir 1964 8 October 2015 21: 49 New
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        Quote: Observer2014
        Almaz-Antey is just one question: do you have nothing else to do ?!
        They, to prove something, are like throwing beads in front of a pig.


        So I, Sergey, thought that there was nothing for the state-owned (100% state-owned) enterprise to do. what hi
        1. figter 9 October 2015 00: 21 New
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          Vladimir 1964 (2) SU Today, 21: 49 New
          Quote: Observer2014
          Almaz-Antey is just one question: do you have nothing else to do ?!
          They, to prove something, are like throwing beads in front of a pig.

          So I, Sergey, thought that the state enterprise (100% of the state’s shares) had nothing to do with the enterprise. what hi

          Spetsialists "Anthea" on this occasion, the odometer began to scale.
    4. Das Boot 8 October 2015 20: 35 New
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      Quote: Sterlya
      And even without a full-scale test, it has long been clear that dill was shot down.

      easy for you, go live.
      By the way, one can ask the question as the sole bearer of truth: were the Americans on the moon or not?
      1. Sterlya 8 October 2015 20: 44 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Sterlya
        And even without a full-scale test, it has long been clear that dill was shot down.

        easy for you, go live.
        By the way, one can ask the question as the sole bearer of truth: were the Americans on the moon or not?

        Were laughing Definitely. (maybe laughing ) or maybe they weren’t winked )
    5. vodolaz 8 October 2015 20: 45 New
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      Yes, these Dutch “experts” need to score a crowbar in order for something to appear there.
    6. Skif83 9 October 2015 10: 02 New
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      I agree, this is not the topic on which it was worth spending energy and money.
      In the world they hear the voice of the Strong, and justifying oneself is not strong.
      They showed strength in Syria, and Russia immediately rose in the eyes of the whole world!
  2. AlexTires 8 October 2015 19: 26 New
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    As a result, everyone will remain with their opinion about the causes of the disaster. The Americans and their puppets will confirm and present evidence of Russia's involvement in the tragedy, and Russia will present its evidence and claim that Kiev is to blame
    1. udincev 8 October 2015 19: 58 New
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      Quote: AlexTires
      The Americans and their puppets will affirm and present evidence of Russia's involvement in the tragedy,

      Give at least one evidence of them (by the Americans and their puppets) presented.
    2. veksha50 8 October 2015 20: 50 New
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      Quote: AlexTires
      As a result, everyone will remain with their opinion about the causes of the disaster.



      So it's time to hammer on it ... The second year the snot chewed ...
    3. avdkrd 9 October 2015 01: 05 New
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      Quote: AlexTires
      As a result, everyone will remain with their opinion about the causes of the disaster.

      and there is. Americans every September 11 with tears in their eyes tell how skyscrapers fell due to fuel melted metal ///////
  3. Stas Karpov 8 October 2015 19: 36 New
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    But what about the “Voloshin pilot”? It turns out that we lied about him? And if all the same Buk, now it remains to prove that it is Ukrainian.
    1. venaya 8 October 2015 19: 44 New
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      Quote: Stas Karpov
      But what about the “Voloshin pilot”? It turns out that we lied about him? ...

      Not yet evening. I hope there are additional documents and arguments in store, it’s dangerous to reveal all the cards so far, let's wait a bit.
    2. shurik 8 October 2015 19: 58 New
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      Now it remains to prove that it is Ukrainian.

      In Russia, “Buk-M1"Withdrawn from service.
      1. veksha50 8 October 2015 20: 52 New
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        Quote: Shurik
        In Russia, the Buk-M1 is withdrawn from service.



        But somewhere in the arsenals there is a canned one ... So they will say - they pulled it out of the hangar, and ... you can not talk further ...
    3. cap54 8 October 2015 19: 58 New
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      But what about the “Voloshin pilot”?
      And he was apparently on the safe side: a rocket from a beech will not hit - it will bring down Voloshin. The Bukova missile turned out to be accurate ... Voloshin saw everything and from here his words: The plane is not the same ... Probably something like that.
      1. Rader 8 October 2015 20: 08 New
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        There was a version that perfectly coordinated everything: Su25 knocked out a Boeing, and Buk finished it off.
        Ps I understood correctly about the "full-scale experiment": they put the old Boeing and blew up the Bug warhead next to it?
    4. pv1005 8 October 2015 20: 14 New
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      Quote: Stas Karpov
      But what about the “Voloshin pilot”? It turns out that we lied about him? And if all the same Buk, now it remains to prove that it is Ukrainian.

      Voloshin could shoot first. But due to their preparation (or whatever factors) they did not block the bird. I had to finish off with a large "caliber". But the fact remains on the face, the Boeing stumbled. am
  4. eskanderRUS 8 October 2015 19: 36 New
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    On a global scale, this experiment does not change anything; for Western propaganda, Russia is an acupant and an aggressor, the United States and a NATO hungry Cerberus, in a place with ukrofashists, holy angels with a halo over their heads.
  5. Arkan 8 October 2015 19: 41 New
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    As you can see, the concern is ready to confirm the data, according to which the plane flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur 17 on July 2014, was hit by the very ground-to-air missile fired from the Buk-M1 system.


    Let's look at the arguments of the parties. Although it is already clear that growers are getting dark.
  6. uralex 8 October 2015 19: 48 New
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    Regardless of the outcome of the investigation of the downed Boeing, he has already completed his evil task ... Every year, the truth about this tragedy fades away ... As long as the current Ukrovlast is needed, the US world media will be blind ...
    1. udincev 8 October 2015 20: 07 New
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      Quote: uralex
      Every year, the truth about this tragedy fades ...

      How will it fade that the passenger Boeing was sent to the war zone (known by whom)? How do other dumb irresponses fade? So you can draw conclusions ...
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    dsi 8 October 2015 19: 48 New
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    The full results of the field experiment will be announced at the Concern's press conference in Moscow on October 13 2015.

    Yes, don’t go to your grandmother here, it’s clear:
    Where is the dispatcher? Where is your mother Voloshin? Are you sure that the Americans will not surrender you. Our convicts miss you ...
    1. Rader 8 October 2015 20: 16 New
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      Where is the dispatcher? Where is your mother Voloshin?

      They are heroes ... And to heroes, as you know, - a shroud (funeral). No one likes witnesses.
  8. 79807420129 8 October 2015 19: 50 New
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    The point is that they are already running around with the tribunal as with a written case and the guilty ones have already been appointed, and we will learn the whole truth about this tragedy in years through ... or never.
  9. Gambit501 8 October 2015 19: 53 New
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    It’s worthless to prove something, as the West will say so and will be, dill will be told to yell that they brought down Putin and they will yell ...
  10. Dyagilev 8 October 2015 19: 53 New
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    "Witness" of the fact that a Boeing shot down a Ukrainian plane was found by "Komsomolskaya Pravda". The Komsomol ate this linden and vparil us. The rest picked up. That's all. What is their demand?
    1. atalef 8 October 2015 21: 10 New
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      Quote: Dyagilev
      "Witness" of the fact that a Boeing shot down a Ukrainian plane was found by "Komsomolskaya Pravda". The Komsomol ate this linden and vparil us. The rest picked up. That's all. What is their demand?

      Actually, it was the main version of TFR, and the witness passed the test on the lie detector laughing
  11. kil 31 8 October 2015 19: 59 New
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    What is the use of us and the militias almost officially appointed guilty. It remains only to publish a report on the investigation conducted by Ukraine, the Netherlands and England.
  12. Manul 8 October 2015 20: 00 New
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    Some kind of muddy, these press representatives of Diamond. It seems that they always want to destroy our official versions. After all, even specialists from other countries claimed that there were traces of holes from cannon armaments. That they specifically shot at the cockpit. How could Almaz-Antey conduct experiments, on the basis of what data, if they physically could not investigate the casing, which they sawed, and quickly removed? Where did they get the nature of the damage to the case, from photos on social networks?
  13. BOB044 8 October 2015 20: 01 New
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    Well, here is Ukraine’s kerdyk. Just a pity that no one wants to believe. After all, not the EU will not want to know the truth. Because they are su ... u.
  14. gukoyan 8 October 2015 20: 07 New
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    I see dill learn well from Omerikans ... those to enter Iraq, the twins blew up their towers, these same freaks shot down the liner in order to denigrate us ... clever, so clever, which is very stupid)))
  15. ssn18 8 October 2015 20: 11 New
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    In "Almaz-Anthea" state that a full-scale experiment confirms the data on the impact on the Malaysian "Boeing-777" from the air defense system "Buk-М1"

    I would like to understand how it is? In the same weather conditions, in the same area, Buk was launched on Boeing?

    In general, immediately after the tragedy, a bunch of photos of debris were posted on the network. So on the cockpit, on both sides, the inlet and outlet openings of about 30 mm were clearly visible. Which allows us to conclude that the shelling of the Boeing crew from two sides. Maybe two planes, maybe one but alternately from one, then from the other. I do not exclude the use of Buk before or after shelling from an airplane. Most likely the plane finished off.
    Ready to listen (read) and other arguments.
  16. KRIG55 8 October 2015 20: 18 New
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    Wait ahead of the results of the most honest and unbiased investigation ....
    1. Barakuda 8 October 2015 21: 11 New
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      Igor, you type pinned? Well then, we are waiting. You can build another Trans-Siberian Railway during this time. wink
  17. gammipapa 8 October 2015 20: 22 New
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    Yes, languages ​​had to be taken from the sacrament of ukrovoyak in hot pursuit, and not expensive experiments to be carried out. Now they’ll be screaming like that for an interruption - our beech, a hundred pounds means we shot down and at least half a head in the forehead.
  18. Maksus 8 October 2015 20: 28 New
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    The people, ay !!! The preliminary findings of the Dutch have long been on the net - a Boeing is hit by a missile, a Buk missile. No guns and air-to-air missiles. Almazovites simply confirmed this. But how to prove whose Buk it is? See this in the 2016 year!
  19. gladysheff2010 8 October 2015 20: 32 New
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    Quote: Stas Karpov
    But what about the “Voloshin pilot”? It turns out that we lied about him? And if all the same Buk, now it remains to prove that it is Ukrainian.

    As for the "Ukrainian" one, there is no doubt, because it is not in service with us! As for Voloshin, this version came with a defector-technician, and the question arises: where is the dispatcher and data on the routes of airplanes in the air at that time ? But this question can be addressed only to the Ukrainian side, in addition to many others, but (one more) from Ukraine, no one except Russia requires this data. The answer is on the surface!
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    I believe that both ours, and mattresses, and Svidomo know very well how and by whom the Boeing was shot down. It is not clear why the “diamond” deals with nonsense. About the "beech" - there is not a single witness to the launch. The launch track “hangs” for several minutes, and is visible for many km. Why are we discussing this topic again?
  21. Stas Karpov 8 October 2015 21: 07 New
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    And it is not clear where the alleged AN-26 went about the shooting of which the riflemen trumpeted? In general, they got drunk to the fullest ...
  22. Mountain shooter 8 October 2015 21: 10 New
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    Probably in vain experts did it. It's just a pity time. When the culprits are appointed, and the opposite point of view is fraught with grave consequences (who remembers, only the Boeing tragedy made Merkel literally 180 degrees expand the position). Nevertheless, it is good that GDP has steel Faberge. Try on his skin - no, I'm better than a beer with shrimp ...
  23. 23424636 8 October 2015 21: 18 New
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    strange position the diamond antea all went to firing from ukrainian drying, etc., and suddenly these experiments make for their loot versions of the supposedly Russian beech. Or they don’t chop off the head with diamond or it’s time to clean the shots from agents of the western intelligence services.
  24. Barakuda 8 October 2015 21: 18 New
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    only the Boeing tragedy made Merkel literally 180 degrees expand the position

    In the Kama Sutra is not strong. IT'S HOW Sorry? for ignorance. And who is actually participating there. request
    Yes, a tragedy, just do not have to stick it out. In Russia it was worse.
  25. Baloo 8 October 2015 21: 20 New
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    As far as I remember, the company also indicated the place from where the rocket arrived. The firm claimed that the beech flew in from the APU. I have more faith in witnesses who claimed to have seen two aircraft. There are no witnesses who saw and heard the start of the beech. Kalomoy pranker Vovan let slip that the wrong Boeing was shot down. Kalomoy’s helpers, according to the radio interception, also discussed what they shot down with “air”, because it did not work from the ground. The beech that went to the militias was not subject to restoration.
    With the photo sent by Build, the specialists quickly figured out that the fake. I prefer to trust the information of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. There is a subtle game. Perhaps the company is the same as the photo of Build. request
    We will wait. hi
  26. Not served 8 October 2015 21: 23 New
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    Somehow, through the links through VO, I went to an article where the version was described that the BUK was a militia, which our people helped restore and understaff. The target was AN-24 with a dill landing force, the liaison sent SMS that it was flying out, it was detained and the plane was not released. The militiamen were waiting for the AN-24, the target appeared, they didn’t understand and couldn’t but valnuli that flew. Yes, it is clear that the sizes are different and the height, but they somehow explained it.
    The only thing then from this version is not clear where the holes from the gun of the plane come from. There was a program of ours, they showed how our destroyer shot the old fesulage on the ground and compared the holes in the photos from the Boeing. One to one.
  27. drags33 8 October 2015 21: 24 New
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    Something tells me that the report of the international investigation team (from the Netherlands) will not be published on October 13. Research / investigation of Almaz-Antey concern confused all cards to international cheaters. Now they will think how to crawl out of this situevina ...
  28. Filxnumx 8 October 2015 21: 30 New
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    Now it remains to prove that it is Ukrainian.

    In Russia, “Buk-M1"Withdrawn from service.

    The phrase "withdrawn from service" does not mean "absent". Usually this means that one or another model of military equipment is withdrawn from active technical operation in the army and is stored (mothballed) at appropriate warehouses or points. Where can it be, after certain events (de-preservation, maintenance, etc.), transferred to a good (combat-ready) state. Now, if all Russian Buk-M1s have been disposed of with appropriate utilization certificates or present annual inventory acts on warehouses and storage bases for weapons and military equipment removed from armament, from which it can be seen that not one decommissioned Buk is anywhere from these warehouses or bases did not disappear then you can prove Russia's non-involvement in this incident. Only now, knowing the "commitment" of some military rear units to strict accounting and control, there is, unfortunately, nothing to present.
  29. Barakuda 8 October 2015 21: 39 New
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    YES HOW MUCH CAN YOU TRY about it? With these stuffing people earn a wabble. Not for the first time.
    Although, for example, if Roma uses the Banshee for its intended purpose, I agree.
  30. Andryukha G 8 October 2015 22: 02 New
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    Determining who shot down is extremely simple - get the damaging elements from the skin of the aircraft and bodies ...
  31. Sevastopol 76 8 October 2015 23: 56 New
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    And even without a full-scale test, it has long been clear that dill was shot down. And how many facts do not bring to the “world community”, they look at their new gates like sheep and bleat their own, and will continue to do the same

    100%. It is a pity that there is little information about the test itself. It is interesting to read about the technique.
  32. Stas Karpov 9 October 2015 00: 34 New
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    Confused already in his lies. Today is one - tomorrow is another recourse
  33. Garis 9 October 2015 01: 36 New
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    In any case, everything secret will become apparent. It's all about time. And the political time has now accelerated its progress ... I think so ...
  34. kostavit 9 October 2015 02: 23 New
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    Determining who shot down is extremely simple - get the damaging elements from the skin of the aircraft and bodies ...

    Like already got ...
  35. kostavit 9 October 2015 02: 27 New
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    There is one unannounced version: Boeing shot down one of the 18 Finnish BUK-M1. They came to Finland in 1996 from Russia.
  36. ermolai 9 October 2015 03: 14 New
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    And now they are trying to teach us to make excuses.

    The soldier said perfectly, but now there is Munich speech, there is an answer to the gopote after the UN General Assembly, now turn to them to bleat something in your defense to the question: did you at least understand (idiots) what you did (debts, b-d) and refugees to help them.
  37. nomad74 9 October 2015 03: 17 New
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    We must score on the geyropu and the states! Do not make excuses for any events of our centuries-old history! Jackals of the states (geyropa) will always blame us and everything! Yes, go to hell! We need to move on to an active defense-offensive: blame the states for using nuclear weapons against civilians and the genocide of the inhabitants of the earth of various continents!
  38. tolmachiev51 9 October 2015 04: 08 New
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    There was a team of Fashington-shot down Russia and all the experiments are a waste of time !!! We will wait until October 13, although the result will be thought to be zero, because the truth is an aspen stake in the politics of geyropa.
  39. Lunic 9 October 2015 06: 17 New
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    There is a full archive of publications at VO, along with comments.
    You can "go back" and look at the materials from the very beginning of the uprising in the Donbass ... it is especially interesting to read about the militia’s capture of beech in a military unit in Donetsk. there, after all, there were pictures (if of course not the left pictures were laid out) ... and the condition of the beeches was described. Also, as far as I remember, there were statements by Ukrainian commanders that the installation was almost completely understaffed ...
    After that, the Ukrainian authorities later declared that the Russian Federation delivered a beech to the militia and then quickly took it back ..
  40. eyed 9 October 2015 06: 21 New
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    Truth was never needed by anyone and never will be needed. In our era, with the invention of radio and so on, it is already useless to search for the truth, the one who first crowed is on horseback. The rest is either to make excuses, or to flog nonsense further. And where among this stream of "information" is true - you’ll understand the hell ...
    And who needs it, he knows, but is silent. In about 20-30 years, they will find out the truth, but who needs it ...
  41. pescimakhi 9 October 2015 07: 09 New
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    If even now the truth will be discovered and proved, I think it will not change anything in the minds of the western man in the street, we hoped and believed in one thing and Western propaganda already sowed its seeds of doubt in another ... The time that they pulled did not work for us!
  42. da Vinci 9 October 2015 08: 31 New
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    But what about statements about the Su25? And also by experts? ... A little lie causes a lot of distrust!
  43. Shuttle 9 October 2015 10: 00 New
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    - Who shot down a Boeing?
    - 154-th anti-aircraft missile regiment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I talked about this. (I. Bezler)
  44. Termit1309 9 October 2015 11: 04 New
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    Quote: Fil743

    The phrase "withdrawn from service" does not mean "absent". Usually this means that one or another model of military equipment is withdrawn from active technical operation in the army and is stored (mothballed) at appropriate warehouses or points. Where can it be, after certain events (de-preservation, maintenance, etc.), transferred to a good (combat-ready) state.

    Go to the store? What is the shelf life you know? How much can you repeat this life, stop confusing it with a computer game. The term of Russian missiles of this modification is long gone. In the early 2000s, Ukraine turned to Almaz-Antey with a request to finalize Buk-m1 missiles in order to extend the shelf life and operation. This company has successfully completed it. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation did not address such a REQUEST. Chew further?
  45. gerodot 11 October 2015 11: 24 New
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    hit American propaganda