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The aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces struck 27 targets of IS militants in Syria. Video

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Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov, told the media that over the course of a day, the Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft in Syria made 22 combat sorties, attacking terrorist infrastructure facilities, including eight strongholds, 27 training camps, and ammunition depots. The strikes were carried out in the provinces of Homs, Hama and Rakka. It should be noted that the IS militants proclaimed Rakku as their capital.








Against this background, the Ministry of Defense is voicing information from representatives of the so-called Syrian free army, according to which the SSA is ready to cooperate for joint action against the IG militants. Information Agency TASS cites a statement by General Konashenkov:

There is information about the readiness of various forces, including the "free Syrian army", to make contacts for joint resistance to the Islamic State militants.


Commented on Igor Konashenkov and the refusal of the West to provide intelligence information revealing the locations of the militants of the IG, which are still unknown to the Russian side:

Today we address: give the coordinates of the ISIS objects. But in response to silence or failure. (...) We fix a complete stupor with our colleagues. From which the following conclusion suggests itself: either the moderate opposition is a ghost, and you just pretend to support it.
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  1. doom25
    doom25 8 October 2015 17: 58 New
    61
    Mi-24 or 35
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 8 October 2015 18: 03 New
      73
      An American tourist in Moscow mortally wants to write. Just no urine. Well, he comes to some house, only unfastens his fly, he is hailed by a policeman: - Uh! What are you doing this? He replies sadly: - But I really want to write! - You can’t be here, come with me. He takes him to some well-kept park, next to a beautiful cream-colored tall house. - Here, write here. The American unbuttones his fly, does his job, turns and asks, smiling at the top of his mouth: “Oh, that beat beautifully!” Tell me, is this Russian hospitality? - No, this is the American embassy.
      1. egor1712
        egor1712 8 October 2015 18: 18 New
        +6
        class! just in topic
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 8 October 2015 19: 59 New
          0
          While everything is normal, God forbid that everything goes fine.
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        3. Persistent
          Persistent 8 October 2015 20: 06 New
          +2
          class! just in topic

          I will add ... laughing

          Abyssally to the Turks, of course. They didn’t live, they were friends with ISIS, they bombed the Kurds, and speculated in oil. And then suddenly here you are: the rooks have arrived ...
      2. Evgtan
        Evgtan 9 October 2015 04: 35 New
        +2
        ISIS militants vigorously protested to the world community over Russia's bombing of their military installations. “Well, we didn’t agree so!” - stated the leadership of ISIS. Many of the militants, having broken contracts with the CIA and the Pentagon, have already left their positions.
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      1. Vend
        Vend 8 October 2015 18: 10 New
        33
        And our cause is right, we will win
      2. ssn18
        ssn18 8 October 2015 18: 15 New
        +4
        The joke is certainly cool, the policeman's wit particularly pleased. But why lay out the same thing four times already. Maybe with a computer of what? And then as if a joke repeated twice becomes stupid. No offense.
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 8 October 2015 18: 14 New
      16
      Damn ... helicopter pilots are real warriors however ...
      from comments



      Lexxicos Lexxicos 24 minutes ago
      the monkeys on the walkie-talkie scream that their brothers did not have time to do this *** I .. sad screams, a sad statement of the facts of the offensive and a sad alla I'm in the bar
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 8 October 2015 18: 20 New
        +6
        I will repeat the post about General Suleymani.
        Как говорят,это он "подбил" РФ на войну в Сирии:
        "...Генерал пользуется безграничным доверием Верховного лидера Али Хаменеи. В формировании внешней политики Ирана участвует достаточно много людей, но его голос по ряду вопросов является решающим. Это право глава наиболее эффективной иранской спецслужбы заслужил..."
        Here is more detailed: http: //kavpolit.com/blogs/funakoshi/13546/
        "...По опросам общественного мнения, проведенного онлайн-ресурсом Tabnak, в 2014 году Сулеймани и иранский министр иностранных дел Джавад Зариф являлись самыми популярными фигурами в Иране.
        As the Americans ironically write, if you turn on the TV in Iran today, then after 5 minutes you will definitely see Suleimani in it.
        В социальных же сетях то и дело мелькают призывы заменить Асада на Сулеймани в Сирии и в нагрузку передать ему и всю власть в Ираке. А русские и китайцы в этом помогут..."
        and here: http: //navoine.info/qasule-mem.html
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      3. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 8 October 2015 18: 54 New
        +2
        They risk the most ...
        Quote: Scoun
        Damn ... helicopter pilots are real warriors however ...
        from comments



        Lexxicos Lexxicos 24 minutes ago
        the monkeys on the walkie-talkie scream that their brothers did not have time to do this *** I .. sad screams, a sad statement of the facts of the offensive and a sad alla I'm in the bar
      4. Manul
        Manul 8 October 2015 20: 50 New
        +4
        Quote: Scoun
        Lexxicos Lexxicos 24 minutes ago
        the monkeys on the walkie-talkie scream that their brothers did not have time to do this *** I .. sad screams, a sad statement of the facts of the offensive and a sad alla I'm in the bar

        Особенно порадовал грустный вздох в конце видео.Типа "Ох,все, песец.Алла,я в бар." lol
    5. RUS96
      RUS96 8 October 2015 18: 41 New
      +2
      Mi-24. Chassis removed.
    6. pilot8878
      pilot8878 8 October 2015 18: 43 New
      +2
      "Лапти" убраны, крыло длинное. Ми-24, скорее всего.
    7. rn6lle
      rn6lle 8 October 2015 18: 48 New
      +1
      I think 24 in 35ki chassis are not removed
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    9. kot11180
      kot11180 8 October 2015 20: 13 New
      +4
      At an extremely low altitude, as in Afghanistan, mastery returns
    10. Avis24
      Avis24 8 October 2015 20: 15 New
      +5
      The leader would write out the tulle in 11 seconds on a combat course. And on the lapel, the pedal is larger, so that the reduction is more energetic and a u-turn. Somewhere on the side of the storage or DShK and could get at the exit.
    11. ermak.sidorov
      ermak.sidorov 8 October 2015 22: 47 New
      +2
      How many hectares have they plowed ??? Only 2 cars !!!
      В части, где я вырос, Ми-24 над полем у реки во время ночных полетов отрабатывали, я так понимаю, "высадку десанта"(прилетел, подспустился, завис и шустро улетел - и так несколько раз). Ночь,над полем туман (влажность с реки тянет), а крокодил со включенными фанарями - ощущение как будь-то это НЛО...мы с мальчишками любили на это "шоу" из соседнего леса посмотреть после рыбалки...сейчас части больше там нет =(
    12. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 October 2015 00: 15 New
      +1
      It seems to me that the Syrian pilots do not fly so low above the ground. This is similar to flying near Korenovsk ... Mi 24 there fly at the level of poplars. But gutted the opponents cool.
  2. sisa29
    sisa29 8 October 2015 17: 58 New
    14
    The creatures got used to that Russia is soft and fluffy. Enough ! Look at the teeth of a bear !!!
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    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 October 2015 00: 19 New
      +1
      In Afghanistan, at the sight of Mi 24, dushmans were afraid and lost. Probably within a month or two, a conditioned reflex to be written from the type of Mi 24-35 will be acquired by the Arabs. And the Arabs are not Afghans.
      1. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 9 October 2015 10: 22 New
        0
        and not only to write ... laughing laughing laughing

        Interestingly, how much green money will agree Taliban retirees recall youth и со стингером в руках скакать по горам чтобы схлестнуться с крокодилами шурави...или возраст уже не тот, пенсия, пора урожай собирать (мак созрел), а на выходных с "братвой" ещё и охоту замутили (юсовские хамеры пофугасить) ... не а, пусть пусть молодые утырки из иг сами пораскинут горячими мозгами по не менее горячему сирийскому песку
  3. Samaritan
    Samaritan 8 October 2015 17: 59 New
    29
    Large-scale offensive, thanks to the Russian Aerospace Forces:
  4. jjj
    jjj 8 October 2015 17: 59 New
    +4
    But I wonder how much more IGO will last
    1. Anatole
      Anatole 8 October 2015 18: 25 New
      +1
      Пока не прекратиться информационная обработка "мяса" и не закончатся деньги у спонсоров. Или переименуют в "умеренных" и опять по второму кругу.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 October 2015 18: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: jjj
      But I wonder how much more IGO will last

      They are felled in Lebanon and Afghanistan. Ours said that the IG has plans for China.
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 8 October 2015 18: 37 New
        +4
        They will hold the flag in their hands with China. They will not stand on ceremony - for the count and all business.
      2. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 8 October 2015 23: 14 New
        0
        But in vain China did not join. For me, GDP is right, we better beat them there than they will beat us here.
    3. Manul
      Manul 8 October 2015 20: 56 New
      0
      Quote: jjj
      But I wonder how much more IGO will last

      As much as they are supported. They will dump them in Turkey, disperse across Europe, and then again they will pop up somewhere. The names of these gangs are just a cover. The colors of the moderate and immoderate. It is necessary to break through the information component of this world. How to do this? I hope our analysts can come up with something.
      1. garrikz
        garrikz 9 October 2015 05: 11 New
        0
        Интересно - а сколько среди этих чернобородых и загорелых бледнолицых, русоволосых с "тактическими бородами" под накидками прячется? Этим все равно где воевать, да и штаты с европами не по арабам "скучают", а таких "поминают", когда смотрят записи наших авиаударов.
  5. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 8 October 2015 18: 00 New
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    There is information about the readiness of various forces, including the "free Syrian army", to make contacts for joint resistance to the Islamic State militants.


    Good work of VSK Russia, within a week changes the alignment of political forces in the region! hi
  6. Sergei1982
    Sergei1982 8 October 2015 18: 00 New
    0
    Not bad, but how is the offensive of the Syrian army developing, no one is in the know?
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 8 October 2015 18: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergei1982
      And then everywhere contradictory infa.


      http://rusvesna.su/news/1444315023

      And infa, everywhere will be contradictory yes information war, however ... request
    2. asar
      asar 8 October 2015 18: 39 New
      12
      Maarkabai and Atshan and Kafr Nabuda and Al Mugir liberated
      Offensive on El Lataman
      Налицо складывающийся "котел"
      1. asar
        asar 8 October 2015 19: 35 New
        +1
        "Дебальцевский котел" - зима 2015
        котел "Кфар - Зита" - осень 2015 ?!
  7. dsi
    dsi 8 October 2015 18: 01 New
    +2
    From which the following conclusion suggests itself: or moderate opposition is a ghost, and you only pretend that you support it.

    Neither then nor the other.
    Moderate opposition is the states themselves! Something like that...
    1. venaya
      venaya 8 October 2015 18: 34 New
      0
      Quote: dsi
      Moderate opposition is the states themselves! Something like that...

      ISIS is also a state; there is no opposition that has never been supported by the states. Therefore, to say that there are states that are not states is pointless. All, to varying degrees of controllability, are always tied to the states, differences in unprincipled nuances. ...
  8. AQUARIUS 65
    AQUARIUS 65 8 October 2015 18: 01 New
    +4
    More hits are good and different!
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 October 2015 18: 01 New
    +1
    However. The pace is slowly increasing. Impressed by the statement of the CCA. I did not understand where they are and how much, but nonetheless ...
    1. 740
      740 8 October 2015 18: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However. The pace is slowly increasing.

      Aha. Next week from space, shmulnom. But for now, t-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. Not a word to anyone!repeat
    2. ssn18
      ssn18 8 October 2015 18: 29 New
      +1
      SSA is generally a muddy topic. In the morning on the next branch has already been discussed. It’s not clear who is leading, according to some media, a woman, according to others a man. About the word is not a word. Personally, I liked the thought, I don’t remember whose, but not without common sense, let them show themselves in battles with ISIS, and there you can talk about cooperation.
  10. doctor_skander
    doctor_skander 8 October 2015 18: 02 New
    11
    Today we appeal: give the coordinates of the objects of ISIS. But in response, silence or refusal. (...) we fix a complete stupor in our colleagues ...

    Шах и Мат!!! И согласится нельзя и отказать обосновано невозможно!)))"Взрыв мозга" у Амеров)))
  11. boroda64
    boroda64 8 October 2015 18: 03 New
    +4
    ..
    GHOST
    - WANTS IN THE DESERT
    - призрак "умеренной опозиции"
  12. arane
    arane 8 October 2015 18: 04 New
    +5
    We are not soft and not fluffy, not angry and not prickly .......
    We will crush the nits, drink for it .......
  13. asar
    asar 8 October 2015 18: 06 New
    +5
    There is information about the readiness of various forces, including the "free Syrian army", to make contacts for joint resistance to the Islamic State militants.


    And how much you can believe?
    Because, only Assad is the legitimately elected President of Syria!
    А вы кто, "прихлебатели" юсовские?!
    О чем с вами "базар" вести?
    You are nobody and there’s no way to call you!

    which are still unknown to the Russian side:


    At once everything became clear who is who and who for whom!
    Пока "неизвестны", но это дело времени, поверьте!
    Тут тоже, кому надо "работают"!
    And our pilots - Good Work guys! soldier love drinks


    Насчет "вертушек" - не знаю за всех, но сегодня нас забирали на заре утренней пара, один за нами, другой по кругу! Как проснулся, снова они, стоят родимые! А другие над базой круги "нарезают"!
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 8 October 2015 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: asar
      А вы кто, "прихлебатели" юсовские?!
      О чем с вами "базар" вести?
      You are nobody and there’s no way to call you!

      Well then?)
      And the penal battalions in the most flammable areas? SSA for this you can’t imagine better!)
  14. 79807420129
    79807420129 8 October 2015 18: 10 New
    11
    The Syrian army launched an attack, it is necessary to increase strikes on enemies, and do not care about mattresses, which allies know well.
  15. Urri
    Urri 8 October 2015 18: 11 New
    +3
    Assad's affairs in Syria went smoothly.
    The Americans, in contrast to the actions of the Russian air forces in the region in other regions of the world, are hastily introducing groups of Jewish human rights defenders into battle. This is already some success.
  16. Proud.
    Proud. 8 October 2015 18: 12 New
    24
    В сети появилось видео.Курды сняли на мобилу полёт "Калибра":
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 8 October 2015 18: 19 New
      13
      Let the Kurds be proud of their mobile.
      We are a little more modest in our rocket.
      1. Garris199
        Garris199 8 October 2015 20: 42 New
        +2
        Or so.
        Let the Kurds be proud of their mobile
        We are proud of the cruise missile
        We are more humble
  17. Tatarus
    Tatarus 8 October 2015 18: 14 New
    +3
    The moderates have no choice. Either death or the Assad coalition.
  18. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 8 October 2015 18: 14 New
    16
    Today we address: give the coordinates of the ISIS objects. But in response to silence or failure. (...) We fix a complete stupor with our colleagues. From which the following conclusion suggests itself: either the moderate opposition is a ghost, and you just pretend to support it.
    Phantom war with a ghost - a skate of NATO
  19. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 8 October 2015 18: 14 New
    +5
    a bunch of comments like shit in an outhouse. and on the subject of zeros

    Arsenal
    Bomb searches for 0 tanks
    ISIS combat equipment is destroyed by self-aiming ammunition
    Text: Sergey Ptichkin
    07.10.2015, 20: 26
    Print version Print version
    База российских военных на аэродроме "Хмеймим" в Сирии
    Появились сообщения о применении против бронетехники "Исламского государства" авиабомб с малопонятным названием СПБЭ, что значит самоприцеливающийся боевой элемент. Это по-настоящему "умный" боеприпас, поражающий только военную технику.
    Его создатели были награждены последней в нашей истории Государственной премией СССР. Разработчики СПБЭ из НПО "Базальт" опередили американцев минимум на десять лет. Аналогичные боеприпасы на Западе стали появляться относительно недавно.
    A bomb is a cylinder containing explosives and a thick copper plate. A parachute system and a homing module are attached to the side of the cylinder.

    After an accumulation of enemy armored vehicles was discovered on the ground, bombers or attack aircraft are sent to the indicated point. Bombs are dropped within heights from 400 to 5000 meters. Three small parachutes, opening at a given height, provide stabilization and slow down the speed of fall to 17 m / s. Along with the opening of parachutes, an infrared target search system is activated. She reacts to the heat of the propulsion systems of combat vehicles.

    After detecting the target and determining the point of detonation of the warhead, which occurs at an altitude of about 150 meters, the bomb is sent to the enemy machine using special rudders that correct its flight.
    1. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 8 October 2015 19: 02 New
      +4
      You, Siberia, consider everyone here to be a waste, but you yourself, with your comment, like the same product in the hole. Yesterday, for fools, the use of such ammunition was explained and there was even a video from Syria. I’ll add, for your enlightenment, look for the video yourself .




      RBC-500 SPBE-D

      A 500 kg single-shot bomb with 15 self-aiming anti-tank warheads equipped with dual-mode infrared target coordinators RBK-500 SPBE-D is designed to destroy modern tanks and other armored vehicles under natural and artificial interference. It can hit up to six tanks at a time. It is used from heights of 400-5000 m at a speed of 500-1900 km / h.
  20. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 8 October 2015 18: 16 New
    +2
    logram. The second - gives it an acceleration equal to two kilometers per second.

    This is more than an anti-tank projectile. The core pierces the armor with a thickness of 70 mm at an angle of 30 degrees.

    Based on the technologies developed during the creation of SPBE, it was possible to develop an anti-helicopter mine. It is the same bomb, but it is not only dropped from the plane, but mounted on the ground. Where enemy helicopter landing is possible, well-disguised minefields are set up.

    When a threat occurs, by a signal from a command post, mines turn on and begin to scan airspace. When a foreign helicopter hits the shelling sector, the mine explodes, and the rotorcraft is hit by the core, literally falling apart in the air.
    sorry if I offended anyone. not a month, work. went to the full zoo (((
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 8 October 2015 18: 57 New
      0
      Respected! Did you happen to be wrong with a thickness of 70 mm by an order of magnitude? This is purely a question and please no offense. But 70 mm is not about anything.
      1. kot11180
        kot11180 8 October 2015 21: 33 New
        +1
        Striking from above, there is not much armor
  21. Orlenok ILLI4A
    Orlenok ILLI4A 8 October 2015 18: 20 New
    33

    Here's another Russian-Igil phrasebook :)
    1. asar
      asar 8 October 2015 19: 03 New
      0
      I’ll add -
      کس امک

      В переводе почти как "твою мать!" - (kuss ummak)
      It’s just not Arab clav, it’s so!

      в "ответку" от нас -
      fuck

      В общем, "любим" твою мать"!
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 8 October 2015 23: 23 New
      0
      Low fly, dangerous. What are five kilometers there, for me it is rather a few hundred meters.
  22. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 8 October 2015 18: 24 New
    +3
    сбор разведданных о потенциальных целях для ракетно-бомбовых ударов начался как минимум одновременно с началом авианалетов. "По данным радиоперехвата, в лагере находились иностранные боевики", - говорится в описании опубликованного Минобороны РФ 5 октября видео об атаке штурмовиками Су-25 полевого лагеря террористов у Кафер-Авайд.

    Другой сюжет - об уничтожении бомбардировщиком Су-24 бронетехники "ИГ", - сопровождается текстом "Показанные ранее видеоролики, на которых изображено уничтожение скопления техники боевиков, теперь подтверждены данными перехвата, радиопереговорами боевиков и сведениями из других источников войсковой разведки".

    Although Moscow does not name the carrier of intelligence equipment, NI experts suggest that the Il-20 electronic intelligence aircraft collects militant negotiations and other information.
    "Помимо 28 боевых самолетов, прибывших через Иран в международный аэропорт имени Басиля аль-Асада на борту военно-транспортных самолетов Ил-76 на прошлой неделе, российские ВВС перебросили в Сирию по крайней мере один разведывательный самолет Ил-20. И даже если спутниковая разведка пока не обнаружила его присутствие на стоянке аэродрома близ Латакии, по сведениям от одного из наших источников, самолет-шпион Ил-20 уже прибыл в Сирию для поддержки российской авиагруппы", - цитирует издание независимого военного журналиста Дэвида Ценчиотти.

    IL-20 (according to the NATO classification of Coot, Coot) is a four-engine turboprop aircraft equipped with everything necessary for electronic intelligence: an antenna array, a powerful side-scan radar, an infrared scanner and optical sensors. IL-20 is an analogue of the American RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft, the Russian Air Force has 20 of such aircraft.
  23. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 8 October 2015 18: 25 New
    0
    Однако самолетом-шпионом разведывательные средства России в борьбе против "ИГ" не исчерпываются, пишет NI. Ссылаясь на данные официального информагенства Дамаска Syrian Arab News Agency, издание сообщило о приходе к берегам Сирии корабля разведки Балтийского флота "Василий Татищев".

    Корабли этого типа (проект 864 "Меридиан", по классификации НАТО Vishnya) предназанчены для радиоперехвата и сбора другой информации. По словам военного источника NI в Калиниграде, подобные походы для кораблей Балтфлота являются обычным делом и в свое время "они с успехом отслеживали войну в Югославии".

    Be that as it may, in the near future, Russian electronic intelligence systems will undoubtedly be involved very actively, the author of the article, Joseph Tweric, concludes.
    1. zanoza
      zanoza 8 October 2015 18: 46 New
      +3
      Recording negotiations is nothing without TRANSLATORS. How many children were brought up by knowledgeable languages ​​of the Arab world, the Caucasus and other ISIS representatives.
      They work, apparently, in the sweat of their faces.
      1. ssn18
        ssn18 8 October 2015 19: 00 New
        +2
        "Трудятся, видимо, в поте лица."

        But actually why be surprised? This is a war, but there is no other way. It’s better to sweat than to cool.
  24. roskot
    roskot 8 October 2015 18: 31 New
    +1
    the so-called Syrian free army, according to which the SSA is ready to cooperate for joint action against IS fighters

    The strong are always drawn to the weak. This is the prose of life. But here it is necessary to understand.
  25. atamankko
    atamankko 8 October 2015 18: 32 New
    +3
    Aviation is always on top. flyers come back all and healthy are waiting for you.
  26. Ilya77
    Ilya77 8 October 2015 18: 38 New
    +2
    The advertising of our Air Force turned out to be good - the Indians want to abandon Rafale already - http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/08/rafale15/
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  27. win
    win 8 October 2015 18: 56 New
    +5
    Боевики ИГИЛ заявили решительный протест мировому сообществу в связи с бомбардировками Россией их военных объектов. "Ну мы так не договаривались!" - заявило руководство ИГИЛ. Многие из боевиков, разорвав контракты с ЦРУ и Пентагоном, уже покинули свои позиции.
  28. Lint64
    Lint64 8 October 2015 19: 04 New
    +3
    Timidly, foolishly, crawled to the censor, promised! But here they said that the data of Our pilots is published. Well, I went in, so what, well, crap. Obmaterili, etc. I am not offended. There are cockroaches and bugs. You’ll visit, you won’t. This, of course, is advertising, but still, do not go to Africa for a walk.


    Well, why did you go?

    Now wash! Brush off. Would you like to answer? In vain. This is 404!

    You have been blocked by the administrator.
    Censor.NET ›Video› Abroad

    Not only abroad, but also in Ukra.
  29. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 8 October 2015 19: 20 New
    +1
    guys working as military instructor at school please explain to the dumb head why Syria for us is not like an Afghan? the only thing likely is that we didn’t enter the ground forces there? and as a matter of fact, if we abandon Assad as a nadzhibule in 89, then Assad will be eaten by NATO troops just like they hung a Najibul. I do not ask for minuses and pluses, but I ask you to explain simply
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 8 October 2015 19: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: NOC-VVS
      Why is Syria not like Afghanistan for us? the only thing likely is that we didn’t enter the ground forces there?

      Mostly yes, but not only.

      - in Syria, the Russian Federation does not overthrow anyone and does not bring anyone to power (we recall how Afghanistan began .. Amin’s palace, that is)
      - In Syria, the Russian Federation is not going to influence the state structure and social system. They tried to drive Afghanistan into socialism (from the feudal system). Partly on this and broke off
      - In Syria, there is an army that has been fighting with the rebels for 4 years already (whether it’s bad, whether it’s good - a separate issue). In Afghanistan .. damn it, there was no such army

      Here are just three differences. IMHO, naturally ..
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 8 October 2015 20: 07 New
        +5
        The main difference is different. In Afghanistan, our operation did not have a clear goal. If a clear goal had been set - to suppress the Mujahideen or to join AFG in the USSR there, then everything would be different. And so no one understood what our troops were doing there - neither the soldiers themselves, nor the command, nor the people, nor the country. There was no clear understanding of what we needed there and what was considered a victory. As a result, they entered, stood and withdrawn. Now we have a clear goal - to knock the broads out of Syria and restore the state. There is a clear understanding of who our enemies are and who will put us in the wheel, there are allies, there are resources and there is a normal commander in chief who knows what he is doing, and if even something goes wrong, he will find the optimal solution. And most importantly, the guys understand who sent them there and what they do there, what task they perform. So the chances of winning are pretty good. They are not XNUMX% - no one will give guarantees in the war, but they are more than good. So good luck to everyone involved. soldier
    2. ssn18
      ssn18 8 October 2015 19: 27 New
      +1
      Explain for a long time, I hope it will be clearer.
      If you have questions, in PM. I will try to send a picture of better quality. You should not compare with Afghanistan, here the state elite and the regular army for Assad.
  30. lopvlad
    lopvlad 8 October 2015 21: 13 New
    0
    Quote: NOC-VVS
    Why is Syria not like Afghanistan for us?


    because in Syria we do not seek to fight instead of the Syrians on earth, as we did in Afghanistan. We would already have an analogue of Afghanistan in Vietnam if we fought on the ground instead of the Vietnamese with our troops.
  31. Shaber
    Shaber 8 October 2015 21: 13 New
    0
    Quote: doom25
    Mi-24 or 35


    100% of ours worked. Handsome men have no words. But I just didn’t understand what it was, in the end, how did we water it?
    1. WYCCTPUJIA
      WYCCTPUJIA 9 October 2015 13: 07 New
      0
      "НУРСИКИ" Там работало не 2 , а 4 вертолёта.
  32. slava5553
    slava5553 8 October 2015 22: 31 New
    0
    It is difficult to admit its worthlessness in the eyes of the world community. The Russian Federation has done more in a week than the United States in a year, well, very difficult.
  33. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 October 2015 00: 25 New
    +1
    You need to send Mi35-28N or Ka 52 night helicopters to Syria. For night work and border control with Turkey.
  34. ermolai
    ermolai 9 October 2015 02: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Yarik
    There will not be ceremony - at stake and all business.

    Sorry mon sher, but according to Chinese custom, we don’t use this method, we pity the criminals and plant them on a bamboo shoot, so the condemned one lives longer fellow
  35. snc
    snc 9 October 2015 03: 47 New
    0
    It’s not clear with helicopters. I watched a video on the internet - I thought it was dissected by the Syrians in the old, then I watched a report from our base - no, really ours! The ancient Mi-24Ps were sent to war. Why didn’t they send Mi-28 and Ka-52 ??? There would be great advertising, and the pilots would say thanks. In the end, at least the Mi-24VM / PN, they are at least with thermal imagers.
  36. Fox
    Fox 9 October 2015 07: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: snc
    It’s not clear with helicopters. I watched a video on the internet - I thought it was dissected by the Syrians in the old, then I watched a report from our base - no, really ours! The ancient Mi-24Ps were sent to war. Why didn’t they send Mi-28 and Ka-52 ??? There would be great advertising, and the pilots would say thanks. In the end, at least the Mi-24VM / PN, they are at least with thermal imagers.

    there these turntables will be left to the Syrians.
  37. snc
    snc 9 October 2015 09: 00 New
    0
    So it will be later, and now on this old stuff we have to go into battle.
  38. Zai pali
    Zai pali 10 October 2015 16: 47 New
    0
    We must get out of the stupid treaty on medium-range missiles. Iskander 3000 km. It will be a bomb am